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| 02:43.53 | graphyx | Ok what is the easiest way to attempt 255 simultaneous connections to a mail server? |
| 02:44.01 | graphyx | fork perl, whatever |
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| 03:05.53 | graphyx | just answering you back |
| 03:05.59 | graphyx | after a couple months |
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| 03:07.46 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
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| 03:31.03 | vontrapp | i can't find the phone number for microsoft to reactivate my winxp |
| 03:32.22 | vontrapp | everything i can find says "use the toll free number on your screen" |
| 03:32.39 | vontrapp | well, that'd be great if it would show up on my screen! |
| 03:33.14 | vontrapp | "Toll free number: (blank)" |
| 03:36.39 | elg | pitiful |
| 03:37.24 | elg | anyone know the name of that song/jingle/ditty/whatever from a coffee commercial or two in the 80s - a real chipper instrumental that was whistled by a tea or coffee pot, iirc? |
| 03:37.58 | elg | deedadeeda dee! da! da dee da dee dee |
| 03:39.41 | vontrapp | the best part of waking up? |
| 03:40.04 | vontrapp | do you remember what brand? |
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| 05:40.42 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 05:44.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I read slashdot at -1 :/ |
| 05:45.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, people call me insane for any number of things, so.. |
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| 06:15.52 | ibot | ok, Sargun |
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| 06:15.55 | ibot | ok, Sargun |
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| 13:06.08 | goozbach | elg: it was a folgers commercial |
| 13:06.27 | goozbach | with a percolator doing the beat |
| 13:11.36 | elg | goozbach: that's what I thought |
| 13:11.46 | elg | but all I can find is that silly "the best part of waking up" jingle |
| 13:28.52 | goozbach | it was on a "best of comercials" show once |
| 13:29.09 | goozbach | search for percolator jingle |
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| 13:52.24 | graphyx | anyone play with vmware much? |
| 13:52.46 | graphyx | I have a system setup to be a vmware server and I am doing NAT networking. |
| 13:53.07 | graphyx | I want every open port on the vmware session to be available on the server system. |
| 13:53.12 | graphyx | anyway to do that? |
| 13:54.06 | mrpul1 | graphyx: Why not use bridged networking |
| 13:54.25 | graphyx | cause I don't have a spare ip allocated for the additional systems. |
| 13:54.40 | graphyx | but that is good information |
| 13:54.53 | graphyx | cause I could delve into getting one if I needed. |
| 13:57.09 | graphyx | ah found it. |
| 13:57.14 | graphyx | port forwarding |
| 13:57.17 | graphyx | explicit |
| 13:57.22 | graphyx | unfortunately |
| 13:58.48 | mrpul1 | i have added route statements to both the host system and the gateway router to make a nat'ed vmhost available to a different subnet |
| 14:06.57 | elg | goozbach: maxwell house |
| 14:07.11 | elg | I found an old one (black and white), though I was more hoping for an 80s commercial |
| 14:07.13 | elg | oh well |
| 14:09.17 | goozbach | hmm |
| 14:09.24 | goozbach | so it wasn't folgers |
| 14:10.00 | goozbach | but that's the jingle you were looking for, no? |
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| 14:24.29 | ^Migs^ | Glenn Beck really laid it into Al Sharpton when he had him on his TV show last night |
| 14:25.03 | graphyx | whose side are you on? |
| 14:25.32 | ^Migs^ | not really any side, just a casual observer |
| 14:26.15 | graphyx | sure, |
| 14:26.30 | graphyx | I don't think I have heard you give a passive opinion yet ^Migs^ |
| 14:27.34 | ^Migs^ | what I find more interesting is the media response to this. Typically when high-profile characters mock Mormondom, it goes unnoticed. |
| 14:27.49 | ^Migs^ | why is it not now? |
| 14:28.11 | graphyx | but to be honest I am surprised that I didn't see some article on Dig decrying how Glen Beck is such a racist. |
| 14:28.14 | graphyx | for it. |
| 14:28.25 | graphyx | not that I saw the show, but I can imagine. |
| 14:28.35 | ^Migs^ | how on earth could that be construed as racism on Beck's part? |
| 14:28.47 | graphyx | I don't know. |
| 14:28.59 | ^Migs^ | you know, there are STILL a few Christian churches in America that segregate their congregations |
| 14:29.11 | ^Migs^ | Sharpton has a case of "mote-and-beam" syndrome, if you will |
| 14:29.12 | graphyx | ^Migs^: oh, did he lay into him about the Mormon comment? |
| 14:29.19 | ^Migs^ | yeah, that's pretty much what it was |
| 14:29.22 | graphyx | oh |
| 14:29.23 | graphyx | ok |
| 14:29.26 | ^Migs^ | he took it quite personally |
| 14:29.32 | graphyx | interesting |
| 14:29.34 | ^Migs^ | for obvious reasons :) |
| 14:29.42 | graphyx | Is Glen mormon? |
| 14:29.44 | ^Migs^ | yes |
| 14:29.51 | graphyx | Didn't know that. |
| 14:29.56 | graphyx | interesting |
| 14:30.00 | ^Migs^ | convert |
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| 14:30.10 | graphyx | I may have to listen to him more then. |
| 14:30.24 | graphyx | I did in Utah on the radio, but around here you don't hear him. |
| 14:30.55 | graphyx | ^Migs^: I didn't normally put glen into the Media pigeonhole. |
| 14:31.00 | ^Migs^ | Glenn raised the point that pretty much every Christian church had to wrestle with prejudice and segregation by skin color at some point, and it doesn't make sense to exclusively fault the Mormons for it. Back when other Christians were all pro-slavery, Mormons were abolitionists. |
| 14:31.14 | ^Migs^ | no he's not definitely not your mainstream liberal media type |
| 14:31.32 | graphyx | Rush had some comments about it as well. |
| 14:31.36 | ^Migs^ | what did Rush say? |
| 14:31.45 | ^Migs^ | I know Rush isn't too LDS-friendly |
| 14:31.46 | graphyx | I can't remember the specific |
| 14:32.08 | ^Migs^ | frankly, I don't know why this has become a huge deal. |
| 14:32.18 | graphyx | But he did a parody sound clip about Al Shapten being hypocritical. |
| 14:32.27 | graphyx | ^Migs^: it has'nt |
| 14:32.50 | ^Migs^ | the media is talking like Mitt Romney is DEEPLY offended by this. I get the impression he doesn't really care. |
| 14:33.01 | graphyx | only to those who want to try to point out the liberal baises can be just as great or greater than the ones that the insist that everyone else has. |
| 14:33.27 | ^Migs^ | that's interesting about Rush, though |
| 14:34.06 | graphyx | Seems the Conservative media is starting to get a bit stronger. |
| 14:34.18 | graphyx | But isn't anywhere near the normal liberal one |
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| 14:44.30 | elg | levi: i finished my erlang simulator yesterday evening, did the whole thing in one day |
| 14:44.45 | elg | erlang one, simulink zero |
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| 15:17.17 | graphyx | Oh, spam how you mock me. |
| 15:17.29 | graphyx | I am expecting word back on my interview today |
| 15:17.39 | graphyx | I don't know if they will send an email or call first |
| 15:17.51 | graphyx | so I open the mail client to see it and it downloads one email |
| 15:17.58 | graphyx | and puts it into the spam folder. |
| 15:18.37 | graphyx | thus killing me with suspense. |
| 15:18.40 | graphyx | I am still waititng |
| 15:18.56 | graphyx | I'll let you know after I do. |
| 15:19.03 | herlo | graphyx: aw, geez, what a let down |
| 15:19.04 | herlo | :) |
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| 15:19.14 | graphyx | You're telling me. |
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| 15:31.00 | levi | elg: Nice. |
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| 15:31.48 | levi | elg: Nice. |
| 15:31.55 | elg | -lart lukfugl |
| 15:33.54 | elg | as for loc, erlang 269, ruby 210, simulink (ascii save file) 4567 |
| 15:34.07 | levi | Yow. |
| 15:34.14 | levi | What made simulink so bad? |
| 15:34.37 | elg | well, that's the ascii save file, which is quite verbose (everything from what color blocks are to their positions, etc.) |
| 15:34.53 | elg | i'll see if I can't count the nodes and subsystems |
| 15:35.54 | levi | I don't mean just code size; it took you way longer to do the simulink one, too. |
| 15:36.04 | elg | oh, right |
| 15:36.36 | levi | And you had already solved the problem at that point, too! |
| 15:36.37 | elg | two things: it was very hard to figure out how to do simple sequential stuff (control) in simulink. erlang, though functional, does have sequentialnes |
| 15:37.25 | elg | second, it was hard to wrap my head around the simulink features that were available |
| 15:37.42 | elg | i.e. I had to basically internalize the whole "stdlib" of simulink blocks to get anything at all done |
| 15:38.04 | elg | plus there's all the mousing around and trying to keep some semblance of order |
| 15:40.15 | levi | Do you think it'd take as long if you had to do something like it again? |
| 15:40.32 | elg | looks like there's 283 named blocks in the simulink file |
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| 15:40.47 | elg | no, not *as* long, but longer than an alternative |
| 15:41.23 | elg | and at the same speed as ruby, i'd be leery to try it again |
| 15:41.53 | elg | EEs use matlab to whip up quick simulations, and they seem to be pretty good at it. in the right circumstances I would use matlab/octave to do something like it |
| 15:42.24 | tensai | -lart elg |
| 15:42.29 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 15:43.08 | elg | i spent half the day yesterday just getting some decent random number generation going in erlang |
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| 15:43.31 | elg | i'm fairly disappointed with the RNG in erlang |
| 15:44.00 | tensai | not cryptographically secure enough for you? |
| 15:44.05 | elg | ended up writing my own. I did the same in ruby but it took 5 minutes |
| 15:44.38 | elg | i don't need crypto security. they actually have a crypto module that has ssl random numbers, but it uses an internal seed so you can't have simultaneous random variables |
| 15:45.29 | elg | the random module has one you can pass a seed to, but it had no hints on what the seed meant (it was a triple), or how it was implemented, and the numbers I was getting out didn't seem very independent |
| 15:45.59 | elg | my normal random variable generation was giving me numbers every 15 or 20 runs that were in the hundreds or thousands, with a stddev of 1 |
| 15:46.24 | elg | i.e. there's only a 5% chance of getting something outside the range -1.96 to 1.96, and the chance of getting 4000 is about nil |
| 15:47.31 | elg | when I made my own simplistic uniform PRNG that problem went away |
| 15:47.41 | levi | Weird. |
| 15:48.08 | elg | it must be related to independence. the random numbers I was getting were just not independent, because I didn't know how to choose good seeds to make them so |
| 15:49.01 | elg | in ruby, I just didn't have a choice for pass-the-seed-along RNG, but it was 10 lines of code and I didn't have any trouble seeding my RNG with ruby's RNG |
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| 15:49.40 | elg | I did have trouble seeding my RNG with erlang's RNG - I was still getting the problem until I did some crazy stuff like multiplying the next random number by the microsecond clock, etc. |
| 15:51.23 | elg | anyone is welcome to look at my erlang, ruby, or simulink code l |
| 15:51.29 | elg | http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/cows/ |
| 15:51.29 | brac | [Index of /tmp/cows] |
| 15:54.22 | elg | ~tickle lukfugl |
| 15:54.40 | ibot | ACTION jumps on lukfugl, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
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| 16:17.28 | goozbach | redbeard2: here's something you might be interested in. |
| 16:17.43 | goozbach | the "no-frills" kitchen http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/dining/09mini.html?ex=1336363200&en=e39e14cf6af1b0bc&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss |
| 16:17.49 | brac | [A No-Frills Kitchen Still Cooks - New York Times] |
| 16:18.22 | findlay | yeah, there's too many frills even in my kitchen |
| 16:18.33 | findlay | they just get in the way |
| 16:18.44 | findlay | and they're frilly |
| 16:18.57 | levi | I just got some nice stuff from Bintz's the other day. |
| 16:19.39 | levi | It's definitely the place to buy good quality kitchen tools! |
| 16:25.27 | thaddeusq | WoodsDog, let me know your personal e-mail address. You know how to contact me. |
| 16:28.39 | herlo | WoodsDog: I'd like to know too |
| 16:28.58 | elg | heh, "an instant-read thermometer, a necessity for beginning cooks and obsessive-compulsives," |
| 16:29.05 | elg | where's bintz? |
| 16:29.07 | thaddeusq | herlo: I was going to let you know what it was :) |
| 16:30.25 | findlay | man, this is good stuff, and with the Berliner Philharmoniker brass too |
| 16:32.03 | herlo | thaddeusq: okay |
| 16:34.34 | tensai | findlay: I thought a "berliner" was a jelly filled donut... |
| 16:34.57 | tensai | findlay: anyway, I'll see your 8th symphony and raise you a 9th |
| 16:36.48 | findlay | no fair. I'm not even out of the 2nd movement yet |
| 16:37.48 | tensai | well technically all I have is a 9th, but it is a beauty |
| 16:38.21 | findlay | Dvorak was a very accomplished symphonist |
| 16:40.52 | lukfugl | elg: here now, anything you needed? |
| 16:40.55 | lukfugl | (was in meetings) |
| 16:42.44 | elg | nope, just thought you'd like to see my comments about my erlang project |
| 16:42.51 | elg | since you're toying with erlang too |
| 16:42.53 | elg | and it's fun to lart you |
| 16:43.20 | findlay | ~lart like emcnabb, with abandon |
| 16:43.20 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after like emcnabb, with abandon's head |
| 16:47.45 | findlay | tensai: my CD box of the symphonies says Berliner Philharmoniker |
| 16:51.26 | levi | elg: Bintz is at 1855W 300S in SLC. |
| 16:51.34 | levi | elg: Right next to a Sam's Club. |
| 16:53.32 | levi | Here's their pots&pans selection: http://www.bintzsupply.com/catalog.html?wscdet_show=000000012000012100 |
| 17:03.17 | elg | ok I ran the timing. on my iBook the erlang code takes 6 minutes. ruby about half an hour. I can't run simulink here, but on my macbook the simulink ran in the same time as ruby (8 minutes there), but used both cores (not two processors, but two cores) where ruby only used one |
| 17:03.57 | elg | so a speedup of about 5, interpolating to macbook it would probably have finished in 1.6 minutes |
| 17:04.24 | elg | maybe less if erlang is able to parallelize any of the list operations on dual core |
| 17:04.30 | findlay | ~lart lame clulessness |
| 17:04.31 | ibot | whips lame clulessness with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 17:05.55 | levi | Hmm, I dunno if erlang does that kind of thing. |
| 17:07.24 | elg | it's feasible |
| 17:07.33 | elg | i think SMP support is relatively new though, so I'm guessing no |
| 17:07.45 | elg | though if I had written it in a distributed manner, it would |
| 17:08.14 | elg | i.e. erlang processes get distributed across SMP (though I think that's relatively recent development) |
| 17:14.38 | levi | Right. |
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| 17:27.00 | levi | Heh, Steve Yegge rants again... |
| 17:45.15 | herlo | jsmith-away: ping |
| 17:46.58 | graphyx | We always thought that the ACLU was scum, but here is the proof. |
| 17:46.59 | graphyx | http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=6501727&nav=menu368_2 |
| 17:47.34 | findlay | the ACLU does a lot of good too |
| 17:47.52 | levi | graphyx: That's some mighty faulty logic there, buster. |
| 17:51.45 | ^Migs^ | those jerks didn't ask me to go to lunch with them. The ONE day I don't bring my own lunch. |
| 17:51.59 | ^Migs^ | stupid co-workers |
| 17:54.19 | ^Migs^ | lol? http://society.guardian.co.uk/health/story/0,,2077718,00.html |
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| 18:17.48 | elg | levi: specifics? |
| 18:22.25 | atoponce | http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SCOX&t=6m&l=on&z=m&q=l&c= |
| 18:22.36 | findlay | ~quote scox |
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| 18:27.19 | graphyx | how long till delisting? |
| 18:27.20 | graphyx | 6 months? |
| 18:28.29 | atoponce | i say they'll be bankrupt by oct |
| 18:32.28 | herlo | jsmith: ping |
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| 18:32.34 | jsmith | herlo: pong |
| 18:32.39 | jsmith | herlo: How's the new car? |
| 18:32.41 | redbeard2 | goozbach: i liked that article |
| 18:32.52 | herlo | jsmith: very nice |
| 18:33.18 | jsmith | herlo: Sure, it's easy |
| 18:33.25 | graphyx | I like google's rss reader. |
| 18:33.42 | jsmith | herlo: I'll be I can read your mind... |
| 18:33.42 | herlo | jsmith: how? |
| 18:34.20 | findlay | while read(mind) ; do it ; done |
| 18:34.51 | herlo | findlay: you need a girlfriend |
| 18:35.07 | findlay | herlo: ok. Go and find one for me |
| 18:35.27 | herlo | findlay: that's your job |
| 18:35.34 | findlay | I'm too lazy |
| 18:36.06 | herlo | jsmith: how do you add the rss feeds? |
| 18:36.06 | graphyx | herlo: You got a gf? or you mean your kid? |
| 18:36.23 | jsmith | herlo: Edit the group, and there's a subscribe button at the bottom |
| 18:36.35 | herlo | graphyx: well, I'd say she's a friend who's a girl, and we've gone on a few dates. We talk every day, so probably |
| 18:36.53 | herlo | jsmith: I want to add my blog with an rss feed |
| 18:36.59 | herlo | jsmith: how does that fit |
| 18:37.16 | jsmith | Oh, I see. A personal rss feed, not a group rss feed |
| 18:37.18 | jsmith | Hmmmn... |
| 18:37.24 | jsmith | I know there's a way to do it ... hold on |
| 18:37.25 | graphyx | herlo: Well good to hear that you have come back into the social scene. |
| 18:37.48 | herlo | graphyx: I've always been social |
| 18:38.01 | graphyx | herlo: I know |
| 18:38.10 | herlo | graphyx: just not always interested in the rigors it takes with femals |
| 18:38.15 | herlo | s/ls/les/g |
| 18:38.16 | graphyx | but being social and being in a relation is different. |
| 18:38.24 | herlo | graphyx: true that |
| 18:40.37 | herlo | jsmith: yeah, personal |
| 18:40.42 | herlo | jsmith: any idea? |
| 18:41.23 | jsmith | herlo: Edit your account, there's a line there that says "blog" |
| 18:44.43 | Lone_Wanderer | What's the bit called that makes something run as root regardless of who executes the command? |
| 18:44.54 | Lone_Wanderer | suid? |
| 18:45.26 | tensai | Lone_Wanderer: suid makes it run as the owner, not necessarily as root |
| 18:45.33 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 18:45.36 | tensai | chmod u+s |
| 18:45.38 | Lone_Wanderer | but if the owner is root... |
| 18:46.06 | tensai | yes, if the owner is root the it will run as root |
| 18:46.09 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 18:46.24 | ^Migs^ | http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a46450/bobby-brown-bin-laden-wants-me-dead.html |
| 18:46.26 | brac | [Showbiz - News - Bobby Brown: 'Bin Laden wants me dead' - Digital Spy] |
| 18:48.15 | lukfugl | ^Migs^: oooooh kay... |
| 18:49.37 | graphyx | http://www.artthreat.net/2007/05/210 |
| 18:49.51 | graphyx | I see your bobby brown and raise you shotting an iraqi. |
| 18:50.25 | ^Migs^ | http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3171415&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1 |
| 18:50.29 | ^Migs^ | this is a big wtf |
| 18:56.48 | herlo | jsmith: did that, should I put my rss feed in there instead of my blog url? |
| 18:57.04 | herlo | jsmith: plus it would be nice to have multiple blog feeds... |
| 18:57.05 | jsmith | herlo: I guess... |
| 18:57.12 | herlo | jsmith: okay, trying that now... |
| 18:57.16 | jsmith | herlo: I'm sure the Mugshot guys are open to suggestions |
| 18:57.17 | herlo | jsmith: thx |
| 18:57.35 | herlo | jsmith: yeah, I am gonna go get on the mailing list here in a bit, just thought I'd ask you... |
| 18:57.51 | jsmith | What, because you think I know more than you? Whatever... |
| 18:59.48 | herlo | jsmith: no, because you've used mugshot more than me |
| 19:01.21 | Tene | http://houseoffame.blogspot.com/2006/05/to-kalamazoo-wyth-love.html -- entertaining. |
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| 19:38.54 | lukfugl | "nat exactlie Colin de Pharelle..." |
| 19:44.53 | levi | elg: Specifics about what? |
| 19:46.24 | levi | Heh, I just got my first IM from my daughter. |
| 19:46.32 | ^Migs^ | awww |
| 19:46.39 | ^Migs^ | what did it say? |
| 19:47.24 | levi | It said "m yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyikffffffffffffff6f6" |
| 19:47.32 | ^Migs^ | oh hehe. How old is she? |
| 19:48.30 | levi | She just turned 1. |
| 19:48.48 | ^Migs^ | I remember when my daughters first did that |
| 19:49.12 | Tene | herlo: details |
| 19:49.23 | herlo | Tene: in what way? |
| 19:50.11 | Tene | herlo: fozz just barely convinced me to sign up on mugshot, but I don't really know much of anything about it yet |
| 19:50.43 | Jayce^ | Tene, just go join the PLUG group.. |
| 19:51.10 | herlo | Tene: its really cool, you can join different groups and put your blog and twitter and last.fm profiles on there for others to share |
| 19:51.26 | herlo | and you should also add yourself to Utah Open Source group... |
| 19:51.27 | Tene | Oh, there it is. |
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| 19:52.31 | Tene | Hmm. Plug doesn't have an image. |
| 19:52.40 | Jayce^ | no, just did it :) |
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| 20:06.27 | ^Migs^ | we just got these new fancy IntelliWrite (?) pads, for collaborative writing/drawing. You can use them in classrooms or meetings, and everyone can draw on the same page, web page, etc. One thing that probably only a select few students will benefit from, but not enough to warrant the cost. |
| 20:07.07 | lukfugl | I can see them being useful in meetings though |
| 20:07.31 | lukfugl | like huddling around the whiteboard, but you don't have to huddle |
| 20:07.33 | ^Migs^ | they definitely will be |
| 20:07.40 | ^Migs^ | yeah, and you don't have to get up and draw on the whiteboard |
| 20:07.46 | ^Migs^ | you just sit there and draw. |
| 20:08.01 | ^Migs^ | tons of features, too. Pretty cool. |
| 20:09.21 | levi | Sounds like a fun gadget, but yeah, the utility probably doesn't quite meet the cost. |
| 20:09.37 | lukfugl | how much is the cost? |
| 20:09.52 | ^Migs^ | yeah, they were talking about putting them in a bunch of classrooms in our schools. I can see them maybe using them for a bit, then giving up and going back to the regular methods. |
| 20:10.11 | ^Migs^ | dont' know the cost, but I'm sure it's too much |
| 20:10.16 | ^Migs^ | I just KNOW |
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| 20:11.45 | levi | So do your drawings get projected or otherwise transferred to a big board? |
| 20:12.24 | goozbach | awesome? I'd say yes! https://xenarcdirect.com/product.php?productid=16148&cat=259&page=1 |
| 20:12.31 | goozbach | it |
| 20:12.32 | maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 20:12.32 | ibot | offers goozbach some herring |
| 20:12.44 | goozbach | it's an in-dash touchscreen lcd |
| 20:12.49 | levi | It'd be great for a teacher to have a gadget that would let them write on a legal pad sized device and have it show up on the big board. |
| 20:13.03 | maquis | levi: true |
| 20:13.38 | goozbach | intelliWrite? |
| 20:13.39 | goozbach | hmm |
| 20:13.44 | goozbach | I should look into that |
| 20:13.48 | levi | Then they wouldn't have to turn their back to the class, they could write a lot faster, and they could actually write on horizontal instead of downward-slanting lines. :) |
| 20:15.52 | goozbach | ^Migs^: you have a company name? as google isn't being too friendly with intelliwrite |
| 20:16.15 | ^Migs^ | I don't think it's intelliwrite, hence the (?) |
| 20:16.22 | ^Migs^ | I think it was Apple |
| 20:16.26 | goozbach | is this it? http://www.gtcocalcomp.com/interwriteschoolpad.htm |
| 20:16.29 | brac | [InterWrite Products - SchoolPad] |
| 20:16.45 | ^Migs^ | yeah there it is |
| 20:16.47 | ^Migs^ | oh, interwrite |
| 20:16.55 | ^Migs^ | and it's not Apple at all |
| 20:17.45 | ^Migs^ | kind of a pointless device |
| 20:18.45 | goozbach | I don't know about pointless |
| 20:18.50 | goozbach | I see it being usefull |
| 20:19.13 | goozbach | there were lots of times I wanted to sit by a student's desk AND draw a diagram on the board at the same time |
| 20:19.20 | goozbach | this would allow that |
| 20:21.45 | herlo | what the ? http://slashdot.org/articles/07/05/11/158218.shtml |
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| 20:34.16 | ^Migs^ | http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/honda-hydrogen-fcx-coming-in-2008-259716.php |
| 20:36.33 | goozbach | do they not make slot-loadinig cd/dvd drives anymore? |
| 20:39.45 | nick125_lappy | goozbach: I think they do.. |
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| 20:42.48 | goozbach | found a slim-line one |
| 20:42.51 | levi | I can't decide if the FCX thing looks cool or nasty ugly. |
| 20:42.52 | goozbach | which might work |
| 20:43.53 | levi | The other two Honda concepts in the photo gallery are definitely on the nasty ugly side, though. |
| 20:49.24 | ^Migs^ | http://www.teslamotors.com/performance/charging_and_batteries.php?js_enabled=1 |
| 20:55.13 | levi | The Tesla, on the other hand, is one hot-looking car. |
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| 20:58.47 | levi | So, yeah, if I was in the market for a ~$90k car, the Tesla would be way up on my list. |
| 21:00.34 | tensai | I'll sell my car for $90k |
| 21:00.59 | levi | tensai: Sure, but no one will buy it at that price. |
| 21:01.11 | ^Migs^ | an eccentric millionaire might |
| 21:01.23 | levi | Good luck finding one! |
| 21:01.24 | tensai | levi: they certainly won't if I never offer :) |
| 21:01.33 | ^Migs^ | yeah, what's the harm in trying? |
| 21:01.49 | tensai | maybe a millionaire with poor vision |
| 21:01.58 | ^Migs^ | exactly |
| 21:02.17 | ^Migs^ | you have the right attitude, tensai |
| 21:02.42 | tensai | Tene: help! he's agreeing with me too. what do I do? |
| 21:03.03 | ^Migs^ | just pretend I'm being sarcastic |
| 21:03.07 | beandog | just cry a little on the inside |
| 21:03.08 | beandog | its easy. |
| 21:03.30 | Tene | ... crap, I can't suggest that you pretend he was being sarcastic because then I'd be agreeing with him. |
| 21:03.54 | ^Migs^ | you could pretend I'm insane |
| 21:04.09 | ^Migs^ | or pretend I'm trying to drive you to insanity |
| 21:04.19 | Tene | tensai: I've heard that /ignore is helpful |
| 21:04.24 | ^Migs^ | yeah, you could ignore |
| 21:04.46 | Tene | stop agreeing with me... *whimpers* |
| 21:04.52 | ^Migs^ | :) |
| 21:05.17 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I should probably stop agreeing with you |
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| 21:05.33 | tensai | -lart elg |
| 21:05.35 | elg | freeeedom |
| 21:06.46 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 21:07.02 | elg | that, my friends, was very likely the last final exam I will ever take |
| 21:07.13 | ^Migs^ | whoa, you're done with exams? |
| 21:07.15 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 21:12.57 | levi | elg: Woot! |
| 21:14.00 | maquis | elg: congrats! |
| 21:14.17 | lukfugl | now only 5 years on your dissertation, and we can call you dr. elg :) |
| 21:15.49 | elg | and I can give *you* a final exam |
| 21:16.01 | elg | and your little cat, too |
| 21:16.27 | lukfugl | speaking of little cats, we have kittens |
| 21:16.39 | beandog | kittens!@!//1 |
| 21:17.36 | lukfugl | and the dork-butt father has a pocket of fluid in his abdomen |
| 21:17.40 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/img/dune-cat.jpg |
| 21:18.01 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/img/white-mage.jpg |
| 21:18.17 | lukfugl | thank you, beandog |
| 21:19.00 | elg | a pocket of fluid huh? going on a hike? |
| 21:19.02 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/img/cat-cereal.jpg |
| 21:19.04 | lukfugl | camel-cat |
| 21:19.06 | beandog | heh |
| 21:19.08 | beandog | those crack me up. |
| 21:20.09 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.com/ |
| 21:20.19 | beandog | oh man |
| 21:21.39 | lukfugl | it cost us $170 last night for the the vet to say "He either has this rare, uncurable, fatal virus -- or he just has a pocket of fluid that you can make go away with a warm compress several times a day. You sure you don't want to pay me another $500 to do the tests for the rare disease?" |
| 21:21.44 | lukfugl | and then another $30 for kitty antibiotics |
| 21:23.46 | findlay | ~antibio kitty |
| 21:24.01 | elg | reminds me of a monk episode where a guy kills his wife by calling her and telling her her dog was hit by the car and is at the vet, causing her to drive recklessly on a winding mountain road in the rain, and he puts down these ramps to launch her over the cliff |
| 21:24.12 | elg | she would have paid the $500. she was hysterical |
| 21:24.18 | elg | you should love your cat more |
| 21:24.23 | elg | but not too much, might cost you your life |
| 21:24.31 | elg | if the vet is up provo canyon, be suspicious. |
| 21:25.11 | elg | and now, I shall go home and watch an episode from season 12 of doctor who |
| 21:25.39 | lukfugl | heh |
| 21:25.39 | Tene | LIES! |
| 21:26.13 | findlay | ~rot1234567890 lies |
| 21:26.13 | ibot | vsoc |
| 21:26.18 | ^Migs^ | http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1161382101-drillcat.b.jpg |
| 21:26.19 | findlay | VSOC! |
| 21:26.49 | lukfugl | given that he was hit by my wife backing up the van a couple weeks ago, which might have formed the cavity which the fluid invaded, I think the bayesian probability of the rare disease is quite low |
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| 21:27.25 | elg | at first I thought you said she backed the van into you |
| 21:27.28 | lukfugl | and we told this to the vet, but he still insisted on running tests (he wanted to do $400 of tests at first), before pronouncing the van as the likely cause |
| 21:27.50 | lukfugl | you mean that he (the cat) backed the van into her (my wife)? :) |
| 21:28.01 | elg | you should have said, "you can run the tests but we can't afford to pay you. would you like a fluidified cat as payment?" |
| 21:28.09 | lukfugl | heh |
| 21:28.09 | elg | no, that she backed into you |
| 21:28.19 | lukfugl | where'd you get that from? |
| 21:28.42 | elg | I blame canada |
| 21:28.50 | elg | I saw s/he/I/, that's all |
| 21:28.52 | lukfugl | ~blame vets |
| 21:28.54 | ibot | ACTION blames vets (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 21:29.04 | elg | actually I probably saw neither, and interpolated I incorrectly |
| 21:29.15 | lukfugl | we also discovered that nervous cats shed. a lot |
| 21:29.37 | lukfugl | add this to the fact the he was shedding a lot already, and you might be able to imagine what the examination room looked like |
| 21:29.41 | findlay | cats with nerves don't like hair? |
| 21:29.45 | elg | like a recent slashdot "story" about some people that think that randomly throwing words on the page with crazy whitespace and random coloring is easier to read because "we get distracted by the lines above and below the line we're reading" |
| 21:29.52 | elg | when in fact, that is the whole basis of most speed reading |
| 21:30.37 | ^Migs^ | HAHA: http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1174329819-405845146_d8966ddb5d.b.jpg |
| 21:31.00 | lukfugl | I also discovered that while I'm not as allergic to cats as some others in my family (*cough* elg *cough*), I am when in the presence of that much cat hair :) |
| 21:31.14 | elg | :) |
| 21:31.18 | elg | maybe you have a bright future |
| 21:31.26 | elg | I don't remember any adverse effects from chester, for example |
| 21:31.32 | elg | but now just going to your house about kills me |
| 21:31.53 | Jayce^ | most allergies are developed between 20-35 years of age.. |
| 21:32.00 | lukfugl | boo |
| 21:32.27 | elg | Jayce^ the allergy expert, are they spontaneous (genetic) or primarily due to exposure? |
| 21:32.42 | Jayce^ | both |
| 21:32.48 | ^Migs^ | HAHAHAHAHA http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1174329819-405845146_d8966ddb5d.b.jpg |
| 21:32.57 | lukfugl | well, once we finally get them fixed (moonie was at the clinic to get nipped when they discovered his affinity for camels) they'll both be outdoor cats |
| 21:33.03 | lukfugl | so the house should be more hospitable |
| 21:33.27 | Jayce^ | genes give tendencies (such as my dad and grandpa had very similar problems to me).. but which specific allergens come out of what you are around |
| 21:33.50 | findlay | I've been discriminated against |
| 21:33.56 | findlay | now give me your money! |
| 21:34.37 | elg | haha |
| 21:34.40 | Jayce^ | and set an in house record on a couple categories |
| 21:34.46 | lukfugl | Jayce^: sounds like one of my MTC companions |
| 21:34.46 | elg | i wonder how I'd do |
| 21:34.57 | Jayce^ | the nurse came in halfway through the test and literally gasped.. |
| 21:35.13 | Jayce^ | elg, if you have allergies, it's worth it.. in two years I've noticed an amazing difference |
| 21:35.15 | lukfugl | developed/discovered allergies to corn, beans and rice, while in the MTC getting ready to go to Mexico |
| 21:35.42 | lukfugl | the changed his assignment to Californi |
| 21:36.05 | Jayce^ | ouch, thankfully all my allergies are "hayfever" in nature.. no food/medicine/ingestion types.. |
| 21:36.27 | lukfugl | so far the only allergies I have that I know of are mild hayfever |
| 21:36.38 | findlay | sometimes I get a response to peanut butter or honey |
| 21:36.55 | elg | you have latent tucker genes waiting to slay you |
| 21:37.08 | lukfugl | elg: I ph34r the tucker genes |
| 21:37.35 | findlay | once I ate a tuna sandwitch that had honey in it and I couldn't swallow for the next 10 hours |
| 21:37.52 | Jayce^ | basically, the arm or back tests, they make a grid of categories on the location (the amount depends on your expected level).. they poke each cell with a small amount of a toxin family... |
| 21:37.57 | lukfugl | findlay: having gooey tuna stuck in your esophagus is not an allergic reaction |
| 21:38.02 | Jayce^ | wait 15 minutes, and measure height/width of the reaction.. |
| 21:38.20 | Jayce^ | >= 3mm is considered an "allergy" |
| 21:39.08 | nick125_lappy | This buzzing sound my laptop is making when it accesses the harddrive is so annoying. |
| 21:39.19 | findlay | lukfugl: try swallowing when every nerve in your throat sends pain signals at the slightest provocation |
| 21:39.45 | Jayce^ | felt like I had hives again |
| 21:40.34 | lukfugl | findlay: I've been close -- I had a strep that got bored with my throat and decided to explore the roof of my mouth and my gums |
| 21:40.40 | lukfugl | that wasn't a pleasant experience |
| 21:40.45 | findlay | ouch |
| 21:51.38 | lukfugl | sorry... did I kill the conversation? |
| 21:52.36 | findlay | it's dead |
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| 22:00.08 | tensai | oh, that's great. we installed some new equipment at a remote tower but couldn't get to it over the network |
| 22:00.23 | tensai | we tore apart the vlans looking for the problem. turns out the ethernet cable wasn't plugged in. |
| 22:00.42 | mrpull-lt | tensai: whoopsie! |
| 22:00.47 | findlay | I hate that one |
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| 22:01.26 | tensai | luckily this one piece of equipment is only needed for management. the rest of the equipment was still working ok. |
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| 22:22.19 | lukfugl | ?? UtahBot |
| 22:22.21 | UtahBot | utahbot[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 22:22.30 | lukfugl | silly utahbot |
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| 22:32.36 | atoponce | i need to fix that |
| 22:32.45 | atoponce | just too lazy, i guess |
| 22:32.47 | atoponce | :) |
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