| 00:03.46 | levi | elg: That is awesome. |
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| 02:20.20 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 02:37.31 | elg | -chat |
| 02:37.32 | brac | jsmith would think so. |
| 02:37.43 | jsmith | Thanks brac |
| 02:37.54 | jsmith | -chat about Tuesday night |
| 02:37.54 | brac | Tuesday night |
| 02:38.02 | jsmith | -chat about On Tuesday |
| 02:38.02 | brac | On Tuesday I rebooted from the command line on *nix systems |
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| 03:16.50 | *** topic/#utah is The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | http://halls.lug-nut.com/jayce/2007/04/24/Brynn_is_Born | What part of the internet are you from? | Congrats to maquis on getting married! |
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| 03:17.01 | Tene | Flies! |
| 03:21.52 | jsmith | Fleas! |
| 03:22.05 | elg | frogs! |
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| 03:43.13 | DeathC | ... |
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| 03:56.37 | elg | … |
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| 03:57.01 | Tene | -chat about oh bother |
| 03:57.02 | brac | oh bother |
| 03:57.03 | harleypig | ? Did ibot get restored from backup? |
| 03:57.07 | Tene | -chat about Oh, bother |
| 03:57.08 | brac | Oh, bother |
| 03:57.16 | Tene | -chat about harleypig is |
| 03:57.17 | brac | harleypig is rumored to not only that, if you will. |
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| 03:57.31 | harleypig | brac's chat skilz need work. |
| 03:57.31 | Tene | harleypig: someone re-set it earlier |
| 04:00.58 | harleypig | Just wondering ... that onjoin is old. |
| 04:00.58 | Tene | ~onjoin harleypig |
| 04:00.58 | ibot | onjoin for harleypig set by brac on Tue May 8 15:53:18 2007: "Oh, bother" said Pooh as he buried Piglet's body. |
| 04:00.58 | Tene | ibot: wake up |
| 04:01.11 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 04:01.11 | Tene | -chat about ibot |
| 04:01.11 | brac | ibot went |
| 04:01.13 | Tene | -chat about , |
| 04:01.14 | brac | , was |
| 04:01.14 | harleypig | not was |
| 04:01.15 | Tene | ibot: tene |
| 04:01.17 | ibot | rumour has it, tene is Tenebram, or the king of pirate, or my god, or chocolate frosted sugar bombs, or a liar, or more winningish than goozbach, or evil, or the ML master. Attach ye dragon |
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| 04:01.21 | Tene | ibot: what took you so long? |
| 04:01.26 | brac | bots should only be likeable 50% of your inbox... |
| 04:01.58 | Tene | -chat about ~onjoin harleypig |
| 04:01.58 | brac | ~onjoin harleypig "Oh, bother" said Pooh as he used to hit "next" |
| 04:01.58 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 04:02.10 | harleypig | :D That's evil! |
| 04:02.23 | Tene | Evil... or wonderful? |
| 04:02.33 | harleypig | It's full of stars! |
| 04:02.43 | Tene | ~onjoin harleypig -chat about ~onjoin harleypig |
| 04:02.43 | ibot | Tene: ok |
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| 04:02.57 | brac | ~onjoin harleypig Excuse me if I paste into #flood? |
| 04:02.57 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 04:03.01 | Tene | -chat about ~lart |
| 04:03.01 | brac | ~lart was |
| 04:03.01 | ibot | teaches was the basics, including how to RTM |
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| 04:03.21 | harleypig | ew |
| 04:03.37 | Tene | -chat about ~onjoin harleypig |
| 04:03.38 | brac | ~onjoin harleypig "Oh, bother" said Pooh as he buried Piglet's body. |
| 04:03.38 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 04:03.44 | harleypig | ~onjoin Excuse me if I sound bitter. I taste that way too. |
| 04:03.44 | ibot | ok, harleypig |
| 04:03.52 | harleypig | ~onjoin harleypig |
| 04:03.53 | ibot | onjoin for harleypig set by brac on Tue May 8 22:03:38 2007: "Oh, bother" said Pooh as he buried Piglet's body. |
| 04:04.07 | harleypig | ~onjoin harleypig Excuse me if I sound bitter. I taste that way too. |
| 04:04.07 | ibot | ok, harleypig |
| 04:04.11 | harleypig | ~onjoin harleypig |
| 04:04.11 | ibot | onjoin for harleypig set by harleypig on Tue May 8 22:04:07 2007: Excuse me if I sound bitter. I taste that way too. |
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| 04:07.18 | elg | -chat ~onjoin |
| 04:07.18 | brac | ~onjoin is |
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| 04:09.06 | nick125_lappy | Anyone here know about how much a RJ45 and RJ11 110 punch block would go for, and where I could get one online? |
| 04:09.23 | Tene | nick125_lappy: free, if you steal it. |
| 04:09.32 | Tene | check your local telco or isp |
| 04:10.24 | DeathC | dumpster |
| 04:10.26 | DeathC | lol |
| 04:10.27 | DeathC | jk |
| 04:11.45 | nick125_lappy | Tene: Anywhere I could order one *legally*? |
| 04:12.47 | nick125_lappy | I want to wire my house with new ethernet and phone lines, and I don't want to do it sloppy either. |
| 04:15.52 | Sargun | nick125_lappy, why a punch block, rack mounted patch panels :-P |
| 04:15.58 | Sargun | Get a rack you boy. |
| 04:16.03 | tensai | nick125_lappy: I think they go for about $20 each. home depot, et al sell them |
| 04:17.15 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: It'd be a wiring closet kind of thing |
| 04:18.37 | tensai | electrical supply places would have them too. I've never bought them online so I can't recommend anything there. |
| 04:19.20 | Sargun | They aren't cheap |
| 04:19.30 | Sargun | or particularly useful to the amateur wirer |
| 04:19.55 | Sargun | Seriously, what do you need a punch block for? |
| 04:20.07 | nick125_lappy | I'm going to throw out the stupid coaxial cabling as well |
| 04:20.15 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: I was thinking more of a patch panel |
| 04:20.21 | Sargun | nick125_lappy, you can't put coax on a punch block |
| 04:20.24 | Sargun | patch panels are neat. |
| 04:20.26 | Sargun | I love 'em |
| 04:20.29 | tensai | I put in a 66 and 110 block a few weeks back |
| 04:20.39 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: I know |
| 04:20.47 | nick125_lappy | I'm planning on something else for the coax |
| 04:20.52 | Sargun | Oh, what? |
| 04:20.58 | Sargun | replace it with fiber? |
| 04:20.59 | Sargun | fiber! |
| 04:21.24 | nick125_lappy | I'm planning on using a coaxial splitter for the coax cable |
| 04:21.55 | Sargun | What do you use now? |
| 04:22.06 | nick125_lappy | A mess. |
| 04:22.22 | nick125_lappy | I think there might be a 50 year old splitter |
| 04:22.33 | nick125_lappy | then, between these two rooms, there is another splitter |
| 04:22.50 | nick125_lappy | and, there aren't any panels for the wiring. It's just a hole punched though the wall |
| 04:23.58 | nick125_lappy | I don't understand why people buy such expensive punchdown tools. |
| 04:24.40 | tensai | as opposed to using a screwdriver? |
| 04:24.55 | Tene | nick125_lappy: it's worth it when you need to punch down 5k wires or some other major job like that. |
| 04:25.33 | nick125_lappy | I just use a $7 punchdown tool and it works great |
| 04:26.15 | Tene | nick125_lappy: the same reason people use more expensive crimping tools instead of the cheap $10 ones |
| 04:27.07 | Sargun | because they work? |
| 04:27.10 | Sargun | and they're nicer? |
| 04:27.20 | tensai | and because work paid for them :) |
| 04:27.28 | nick125_lappy | Haha |
| 04:27.32 | Tene | You know, I always hate it when Sargun agrees with me. |
| 04:27.45 | Tene | I suddenly feel like I must actually be wrong. |
| 04:27.56 | nick125_lappy | I'm debating on how I should do the phone system |
| 04:28.05 | tensai | speaking of electricity, I've got an AC question here |
| 04:28.15 | nick125_lappy | I want it so I have the option of switching some outlets to my PAP2, etc |
| 04:28.27 | tensai | I've got an outlet and I think the hot and neutral may be swapped. how can I tell which is which without killing myself? |
| 04:29.03 | Tene | tensai: hire an immigrant to do it for you. |
| 04:29.49 | Sargun | They sell little testers |
| 04:30.00 | Sargun | which are $2.99 at home depot |
| 04:30.15 | tensai | I've got an outlet tester |
| 04:30.36 | tensai | oh yeah, it would show if hot and neutral were flipped and it didn't |
| 04:30.51 | Sargun | that's your answer I would presume |
| 04:31.23 | tensai | there's a switch on the outlet and the weird thing is the switch was wired on the white, which should be neutral |
| 04:31.27 | tensai | that's just all sorts of wrong |
| 04:32.06 | tensai | the rest of the house has all been done correctly though |
| 04:33.33 | nick125_lappy | I had a really fun situation once: Whenever I turned the light on in the dining room, the porch light would turn off. |
| 04:33.39 | nick125_lappy | That was *fun*. |
| 04:39.38 | nick125_lappy | For coaxial cable, I like using compression connectors more then screwons and crimps. What are your opinions? |
| 04:41.45 | nick125_lappy | Also, I'm planning on terminating these into blue electrical boxes (I'd install some), anyone here have experience installing electrical boxes in an existing house? |
| 04:42.18 | Sargun | uh, you mean the scary boxes that the phone company writes "DO NOT TAMPER" on? |
| 04:42.47 | nick125_lappy | No, I'm not talking about electrical boxes, the little blue ones that outlets are attached in |
| 04:44.42 | Sargun | oh |
| 04:52.02 | Tene | ~onjoin sargun <Tene> Whenever Sargun agrees with me, it makes me suspect that I'm horribly wrong. |
| 04:52.02 | ibot | ok, Tene |
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| 04:52.48 | Sargun | ~karama Tene |
| 04:53.12 | Sargun | ibot crashes when handling extremely small numbers. |
| 04:54.11 | Tene | "extremely small" =~ "extremely close to zero" |
| 04:54.19 | Tene | The problem is that you either can't spell or can't type. |
| 04:55.36 | Sargun | typing |
| 04:57.25 | Sargun | ~karma Tene |
| 04:57.25 | ibot | tene has karma of -12 |
| 04:57.29 | Sargun | Haha |
| 04:57.37 | Sargun | ibot, Tene-- |
| 04:57.48 | Sargun | ~tene-- |
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| 05:11.29 | levi_home | nick125_lappy: There are two kinds of the blue boxes; one is for new construction, and mounts directly to a stud. The other is for existing construction, and has some nifty 'wings' that hold it in place against the drywall. |
| 05:11.29 | levi_home | You will want to make sure you get the second kind. |
| 05:11.29 | levi_home | Also, getting cable down into the wall itself may be tricky. |
| 05:14.01 | levi_home | Tene is 'the ML master'? |
| 05:15.18 | Tene | levi_home: according to findlay |
| 05:16.41 | levi_home | Tene: Is that referring to Standard ML? |
| 05:17.24 | Tene | levi_home: according to my irc logs, it's referring to 'markup languages' |
| 05:17.44 | Tene | findlay claims that I have a 'disturbingly pervasive knowledge' of them. |
| 05:20.07 | levi_home | Oh. |
| 05:20.21 | levi_home | Well, that's not nearly as interesting (to me). |
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| 12:48.13 | graphyx | ~onjoin Kjd H.shav g; usglu ,dppw kjalv;e |
| 12:48.13 | ibot | graphyx: ok |
| 12:48.26 | graphyx | I make myself laugh. |
| 12:49.31 | harleypig | I think you have to give it the nick |
| 12:49.38 | harleypig | ~onjoin graphyx |
| 12:49.38 | ibot | onjoin for graphyx set by vontrapp on Wed Nov 29 19:10:42 2006: Dr, co yd. Ekrpat jrmcbiZ |
| 12:49.42 | graphyx | oh |
| 12:49.44 | graphyx | ok |
| 12:49.52 | harleypig | yeah, looks like it |
| 12:50.00 | graphyx | ~onjoin graphyx Kjd H.shav g; usglu ,dppw kjalv;e |
| 12:50.00 | ibot | ok, graphyx |
| 12:50.10 | graphyx | ~onjoin graphyx |
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| 12:50.20 | graphyx | thanks Alan |
| 12:50.28 | harleypig | So. I haven't bothered to do anything more than try a rot13 on that ... but that's not it ... what is it? |
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| 12:50.56 | graphyx | it was dvorak type in qwerty, now it is qwerty type in dvorak |
| 12:51.11 | graphyx | as a response to vontrapp |
| 12:51.38 | harleypig | Oh, that's funny. |
| 12:51.59 | graphyx | he asked, how is the dvorak coming |
| 12:52.10 | graphyx | and I answered, it is going great, thanks. |
| 12:52.31 | harleypig | Ah. |
| 12:59.17 | redbeard2 | ~lart harleypig |
| 12:59.17 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks harleypig over |
| 13:10.59 | graphyx | elg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulam_spiral |
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| 13:15.47 | bonobo_slr | hello ppl - I'm looking for Doran. |
| 13:15.51 | ^Migs^ | whoa, maquis got married? |
| 13:15.58 | ^Migs^ | cool! |
| 13:16.14 | ^Migs^ | has that part of the topic been there awhile? |
| 13:16.22 | ^Migs^ | ~seen Doran |
| 13:16.45 | ibot | ^Migs^: i haven't seen 'doran' |
| 13:17.14 | bonobo_slr | hmm |
| 13:17.45 | redbeard2 | graphyx: that's cool! |
| 13:17.53 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Yeah ... it's been there for several weeks. |
| 13:21.26 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 13:21.37 | redbeard2 | graphyx: http://www.numberspiral.com/ |
| 13:21.38 | brac | [NumberSpiral.com - Home] |
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| 13:51.20 | graphyx | he wanted to chat, but in the end it was just a phase he was going through. |
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| 13:58.40 | atoponce | ~seen foozmoo |
| 13:59.10 | ibot | atoponce: i haven't seen 'foozmoo' |
| 13:59.10 | atoponce | ~seen fozzmoo |
| 13:59.23 | ibot | fozzmoo <n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 16d 7h 24m 21s ago, saying: 'That's another thing the Olympus models have.'. |
| 13:59.33 | atoponce | bonobo_slr: ^^ |
| 14:01.59 | goozbach | bonobo_slr: you're looking for fozz, or fozzmoo |
| 14:02.03 | goozbach | ~seen fozz |
| 14:02.09 | ibot | fozz <n=fozz@class1-nat.gurulabs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 313d 19h 16m 7s ago, saying: 'thank you'. |
| 14:02.24 | goozbach | ok, more likely fozzmoo |
| 14:02.40 | goozbach | watch this trick: |
| 14:02.41 | elg | graphyx: pretty cool. why me? |
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| 14:03.02 | goozbach | PERL PERL PERL!!! I invoke fozzmoo! |
| 14:03.30 | graphyx | elg: you and your bro like math, no? |
| 14:03.32 | atoponce | uh.. nice? |
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| 14:03.39 | goozbach | see! |
| 14:03.43 | graphyx | Luke isn't on though it seems. |
| 14:03.45 | goozbach | it works every time |
| 14:03.48 | atoponce | heh |
| 14:03.52 | bonobo_slr | fozzmoo, you still looking to setup a catalyst yum repo? |
| 14:04.09 | goozbach | bonobo_slr: I've been doing some work along those lines as well |
| 14:04.10 | fozzmoo | bonobo_slr: why, yes, sir, yes. |
| 14:04.23 | elg | graphyx: lukfugl likes math. I like some of the things I can do with math |
| 14:04.27 | elg | there's a distinct difference. :) |
| 14:04.35 | bonobo_slr | I have a load of catalyst packages that we built for RHEL4 |
| 14:04.51 | fozzmoo | cool. |
| 14:05.02 | graphyx | elg: sure, |
| 14:05.02 | bonobo_slr | we are about to setup some fedora build envs and will rebuild the packages for Fedora |
| 14:05.07 | graphyx | ok pass it on to him then. |
| 14:05.15 | goozbach | I've been building for RHEL5 but am having some problems with a couple of packages |
| 14:05.23 | bonobo_slr | we had loads. |
| 14:05.24 | bonobo_slr | ;) |
| 14:05.55 | bonobo_slr | but I have an RPM specialist in my team |
| 14:06.40 | graphyx | We have a good contact at RedHat as well. |
| 14:08.04 | bonobo_slr | ok then - I will keep you all informed with how we are getting on |
| 14:08.08 | fozzmoo | Cool. |
| 14:08.33 | fozzmoo | the only real serious head-scratcher I dealt with in building FC6 packages... |
| 14:08.39 | fozzmoo | was the Cwd requirement. |
| 14:08.49 | fozzmoo | Having to force an install of PathTools over the top of perl. |
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| 14:56.20 | ^Migs^ | http://www.dropline.net/cats/images/I%20played%20your%20guy.jpg |
| 15:00.43 | graphyx | wait, where is the mangle text tagline? |
| 15:03.31 | levi | graphyx: Just imagine it says "I'm in ur videogamez killin ur guyz" |
| 15:05.26 | levi | Good morning, everyone. |
| 15:07.55 | graphyx | levi now thats what I'm takin' about! |
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| 15:28.50 | elg | lukfugl: graphyx had a link for you |
| 15:28.56 | levi | http://worrydream.com/AlligatorEggs/ |
| 15:28.57 | brac | [Alligator Eggs!] |
| 15:35.44 | graphyx | lukfugl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulam_spiral |
| 15:36.13 | elg | -chat |
| 15:36.13 | brac | sod on |
| 15:40.22 | levi | -chat |
| 15:40.23 | brac | my bittorrent of the water heater I just remembered he was way more austere |
| 15:40.45 | graphyx | levi: wow, what a long and abstract coding theory paper. |
| 15:42.19 | levi | graphyx: It's a game! Or perhaps a meta-puzzle. :) |
| 15:42.36 | elg | ~dict austere |
| 15:43.05 | levi | -chat |
| 15:43.06 | brac | as I re-install gentoo isn't exactly true to the snow... |
| 15:43.19 | elg | be true to the snow! nuke gentoo! |
| 15:44.01 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | http://halls.lug-nut.com/jayce/2007/04/24/Brynn_is_Born | What part of the internet are you from? | Congrats to maquis on staying away from IRC during her honeymoon! |
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| 15:47.03 | graphyx | elg: perhaps her husband is heavy handed and she won't be back Eva! |
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| 15:52.11 | findlay | ok, check out this hack: http://wjordan.com/ |
| 15:52.21 | findlay | try to get to the 'public safety' menu |
| 15:52.25 | findlay | you can't |
| 15:53.36 | levi | Heh. |
| 15:58.47 | lukfugl | levi: very interesting |
| 16:00.28 | lukfugl | findlay: I can? |
| 16:02.09 | ^Migs^ | me too |
| 16:02.41 | ^Migs^ | works in both IE and FF |
| 16:05.32 | lukfugl | graphyx: also interesting |
| 16:06.10 | findlay | you must have broken browsers |
| 16:06.40 | findlay | well it was giving me lots of trouble and I hope I never have to go back to that site again |
| 16:06.48 | herlo | graphyx: she's back, just not in #utah |
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| 16:34.54 | ^Migs^ | maybe she's too good for us now |
| 16:35.33 | ^Migs^ | get married to some fancy-schmancy high class boy and suddenly the geeks don't look all that great |
| 16:47.04 | levi | ^Migs^: Although I'm sure he's a great guy, I don't think thesuperbigfrog is a 'fancy-schmancy high class boy'. |
| 16:50.27 | graphyx | well don't forget |
| 16:50.35 | graphyx | -chat about ^Migs^ is |
| 16:50.35 | brac | ^Migs^ is FURIOUS |
| 16:50.45 | graphyx | -chat about ^Migs^ is |
| 16:50.45 | brac | ^Migs^ is wierd |
| 16:50.52 | graphyx | -chat about ^Migs^ is |
| 16:50.52 | brac | ^Migs^ is at http://www.tuxgirl.com/rss.php |
| 16:50.56 | elg | we (collectively) never looked all that great. it's not our strong suit |
| 16:51.03 | graphyx | -chat about ^Migs^ is |
| 16:51.03 | brac | ^Migs^ is FURIOUS |
| 16:51.19 | ^Migs^ | ~chat about graphyx is |
| 16:51.30 | graphyx | ~say ^Migs^ is a part time troll. |
| 16:51.34 | ibot | ^Migs^ is a part time troll. |
| 16:51.35 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 16:52.15 | elg | part time? |
| 16:52.21 | elg | are you moonlighting? |
| 16:52.35 | levi | -chat about elg |
| 16:52.35 | brac | elg is looking to get the same LCD as the doctor doesn't expect her to cuddle in my test here |
| 16:52.44 | findlay | how much do they pay part-time trolls? |
| 16:54.08 | jsmith | findlay: Not enough... the insurance costs make it really hard to feed a family on a part-time troll's income |
| 16:56.17 | graphyx | lol |
| 16:56.44 | goozbach | that's why jsmith only moonlights as a troll |
| 16:56.55 | goozbach | his day job is as an asterisk consultant |
| 16:57.20 | goozbach | you'd be supprised how the skillsets intersect for both jobs |
| 16:57.22 | findlay | -chat about findlay is |
| 16:57.22 | brac | findlay is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1d 23h 46m 4s, last said: '-chat about explosion glass'. |
| 16:57.24 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:57.52 | findlay | apropos that I'm listening to Grieg today :) |
| 16:58.11 | findlay | -chat about explosion glass |
| 16:58.11 | brac | explosion glass |
| 17:01.14 | graphyx | findlay: wow that result smacks of recursion. |
| 17:02.11 | findlay | ~seen findlay |
| 17:03.08 | ibot | findlay is currently on #ubuntu-utah #utah. Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 57s, last said: '~seen findlay '. |
| 17:03.52 | findlay | won't work this time, though |
| 17:03.55 | goozbach | ~pineapple findlay |
| 17:10.23 | jsmith | goozbach: Funny... you should quit your day job and become a comedian :-) At least that way you'd get paid when people laugh at you |
| 17:11.22 | elg | hey, who's paying for that trolling? Did migs commission it? |
| 17:11.22 | elg | i think migs is running a troll pyramid scheme |
| 17:12.01 | ^Migs^ | yeah, where's my royalties? |
| 17:13.01 | jsmith | Your royalties flew back to the kingdom last night after a fancy dinner at the embassy |
| 17:13.26 | findlay | heh |
| 17:13.44 | bonez39 | I need a new drive.....I am looking at 500 gb seagate...or 400 gb hitachi...both for $99. mail order.. any experience either way? |
| 17:13.53 | findlay | ~ip ^Migs^ |
| 17:14.23 | ^Migs^ | where are you finding these offers? |
| 17:14.29 | ^Migs^ | because I need a new one too |
| 17:14.32 | bonez39 | ^Migs^, tigerdirect |
| 17:15.00 | bonez39 | the 500 gb drive is the hot deal of the day...but it only has 8mb buffer while the 400 gb hitatchi has 16 mb... |
| 17:15.09 | ^Migs^ | hmm |
| 17:15.47 | bonez39 | I'd love the extra 100 gb..I am wondering how much I'd notice the difference in buffering... |
| 17:16.31 | elg | good question |
| 17:16.31 | elg | remember that linux will buffer too |
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| 17:16.57 | ^Migs^ | buffers are overrated in the first place. |
| 17:17.18 | ^Migs^ | but probably Hitachi > Seagate |
| 17:17.34 | ^Migs^ | it's funny how they say what the drive holds |
| 17:17.41 | findlay | what's the latency/seek time, etc. |
| 17:17.52 | findlay | connectivity |
| 17:17.52 | ^Migs^ | This Drive Holds |
| 17:17.52 | ^Migs^ | - 212 two-hour DVD-quality movies or 750 hours of VHS-quality video or 440 days of around-the-clock MP3 audio or 186,500 vivid digital photos or 1066 action-packed games! |
| 17:18.09 | findlay | yay, 1066 action-packed games! |
| 17:18.38 | findlay | bonez39: I'd look at the reviews too |
| 17:18.46 | ^Migs^ | 5000000000 1MB MS Word documents |
| 17:19.07 | findlay | newegg has pretty good reviews. There's probably other sites as well |
| 17:19.17 | elg | i don't know anything about hitachi |
| 17:19.24 | elg | but seagate has served me well |
| 17:19.33 | findlay | hitachi bought IBM's hard disk division |
| 17:20.12 | bonez39 | ^Migs^, useless....since I stay away from MS Word documents...hehe |
| 17:20.48 | bonez39 | if it holds that many Word documents..should hold 3 to 4 times that many .odf OO documents...which are much leaner..than .doc . not sure why there's all that bloat in msword stuff |
| 17:21.08 | ^Migs^ | I really want to know how they come up with these precise numbers |
| 17:21.27 | Supaplex | .odf are pkzipored. |
| 17:21.35 | elg | what precise numbers? |
| 17:21.44 | ^Migs^ | it'd be cool if .odfs were targzored |
| 17:21.49 | bonez39 | Supaplex, so .odf files...which OO creates..are compressed by default? |
| 17:21.50 | findlay | ~precision ^Migs^ |
| 17:22.01 | ^Migs^ | like 212 two-horus DVD-quailty movies! |
| 17:22.02 | ^Migs^ | *hours |
| 17:22.04 | ^Migs^ | as if "DVD-quality" is uniform |
| 17:22.08 | elg | dvd quality is uniform |
| 17:22.13 | ^Migs^ | 186,000 vivid digital photos! |
| 17:22.19 | Supaplex | bonez39: yup. it's just a bunch of resource and xmlish files in there. |
| 17:22.22 | ^Migs^ | no it's not. |
| 17:22.36 | elg | obviously they pick a set of parameters and do the math, then round off |
| 17:22.40 | ^Migs^ | I can have the same "DVD-quality" movie on an 8GB disc as well as a 4.7GB disc |
| 17:22.54 | Supaplex | but does it use all the disc? |
| 17:23.08 | ^Migs^ | well yeah, if I allow better quality |
| 17:23.09 | elg | i can put your dvd quality movie on a 500GB hard drive. doesn't mean it takes 500GB |
| 17:23.16 | ^Migs^ | when converting it that is |
| 17:23.32 | ^Migs^ | DVDShrink, for instance, lets you specify what "quality %" you want your movie to be |
| 17:24.02 | elg | DVD has a range of bitrates that are acceptable |
| 17:24.03 | ^Migs^ | I want to know what MP they're getting that 186,000 vivid digital photos figure from |
| 17:24.13 | elg | then do the division |
| 17:24.17 | elg | and find out for yourself |
| 17:24.33 | findlay | n MP where n > N == vivid |
| 17:24.53 | levi | Oh, hey, conman uses the REAL expect, not the half-baked copy they threw together for powerman. |
| 17:25.07 | elg | what does condorman use? |
| 17:25.44 | elg | most likely though they just said "2-hour movies fit on single-layer DVDs, so how many single-layer DVDs fit on this disk?" |
| 17:26.27 | levi | conman and powerman are some cluster control utilities written at LLNL. |
| 17:29.26 | elg | anyway, at roughly 4GB per movie, one movie is statistically relevant and so they don't have "overly exact" numbers there. they obviously chose a set of parameters, but you've gotta choose something |
| 17:32.00 | ^Migs^ | and why do these 1066 games have to be action-packed? |
| 17:32.11 | ^Migs^ | What if I want my 1066 games to be all relaxing point-and-click adventures? |
| 17:32.47 | findlay | then that's not the hard drive for you |
| 17:34.02 | ^Migs^ | clearly it's not |
| 17:34.20 | ^Migs^ | unfortunately both hard drives require the games to be action-packed, so what am I supposed to do? |
| 17:34.26 | elg | gratuitous adjectives are part of marketspeak |
| 17:34.37 | elg | but action-packed games are likely to have more graphics and thus be bigger |
| 17:34.45 | findlay | the hard drive makers are prejudiced against you |
| 17:34.47 | elg | 1066 is probably an overly exact number |
| 17:35.04 | ^Migs^ | what about all the action-packed games that are less than 10MB? |
| 17:35.17 | elg | like nethack? |
| 17:36.41 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 17:36.53 | ^Migs^ | this drive can hold 50000000001 instances of Nethack! |
| 17:37.28 | graphyx | is that save files or just the exe? |
| 17:39.20 | Supaplex | no, just hardlinked directories |
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| 17:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 17:42.31 | Supaplex | ^Migs^: 2.8megapixel (uncompressed) |
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| 17:43.34 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I already figured that out |
| 17:43.34 | ^Migs^ | not too impressive |
| 17:43.34 | ^Migs^ | I don't think that's 2.8 megapixels btw |
| 17:43.34 | ^Migs^ | more like 4 megapixels if it's compressed |
| 17:44.06 | ^Migs^ | because I imagine most of the cameras that takes these 186000 vivid digital photos would compress the JPEGs. Or maybe not. |
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| 17:46.22 | Supaplex | well, I did say uncompressed. At anyrate, it's even lower 2.7 megapixel because I used 1024^3 to start, and we know they sell them in 1000^3 for gigabytes... http://rafb.net/p/q67dJI16.html |
| 17:53.46 | elg | jpeg, for sure |
| 17:54.12 | elg | marketing would have no reason to require themselves to steer clear of jpeg and still say "vivid" |
| 17:58.00 | findlay | but how many high resolution raw ppms is that? |
| 18:00.25 | elg | in asciii |
| 18:01.56 | findlay | at least one |
| 18:22.04 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 18:22.04 | ibot | slams elg against a large cement Tux |
| 18:22.11 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 18:22.23 | emcnabb | man, I haven't been into IRC recently |
| 18:23.44 | elg | you haven't gotten enough TLC |
| 18:23.46 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 18:24.56 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 18:24.56 | ibot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking elg's head off |
| 18:25.04 | emcnabb | ok, I feel better now |
| 18:27.11 | findlay | ~lart emcnabb with abandon |
| 18:27.11 | ibot | cuts off emcnabb with abandon's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 18:38.06 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/gap_unveils_new_for_kids_by_kids |
| 18:39.17 | mrpull | what is the plug topic tonight? |
| 18:39.25 | mrpull | is it plug night already? |
| 18:43.04 | findlay | ~flash elg |
| 18:43.16 | ibot | ACTION starts a firmware update on elg, then pulls the plug halfway through |
| 18:52.27 | levi | Ahh, bike rides are good. |
| 18:55.13 | goozbach | so I crashed my bike again last night |
| 18:55.21 | goozbach | might have broken another rib |
| 18:55.28 | levi | goozbach: How'd you crash? |
| 18:55.43 | goozbach | having just one half of my ribcage busted kinda felt mis-balanced |
| 18:56.21 | goozbach | levi: I was reaching over my head to fiddle with my pack, and hit a speedbump which turned my front wheel sideways |
| 18:56.38 | goozbach | I wasn't going too fast, but I came down hard |
| 18:56.42 | levi | Ow. |
| 18:56.49 | levi | Were you commuting or something? |
| 18:57.02 | graphyx | goozbach: that sucks |
| 18:57.12 | graphyx | Reminds me of biking to BYU in winter. |
| 18:57.13 | goozbach | and because my arm was over my head it didn't get down fast enough to stop my chest from crashing into the handlebars |
| 18:57.30 | goozbach | levi: just riding for fun/excercise |
| 18:57.35 | graphyx | Went around a corner to a spot that was almost always in shadow and the entire road was iced. |
| 18:57.40 | graphyx | I went straight down. |
| 18:57.44 | graphyx | it hurt |
| 18:57.47 | goozbach | graphyx: slide down? |
| 18:57.49 | levi | I hate wearing packs and stuff when I'm riding. |
| 18:57.57 | goozbach | I have to have my camelpack |
| 18:57.58 | graphyx | but I slid on the ground |
| 18:58.02 | graphyx | so I didn't get torn up |
| 18:58.07 | levi | I use water bottles. |
| 18:58.15 | goozbach | I'd take sliding over tumbling any day |
| 18:58.22 | graphyx | yeah |
| 18:58.23 | graphyx | me too |
| 18:58.56 | levi | I only use the camelback thing while mountain biking. |
| 18:58.56 | goozbach | road rash I can deal with |
| 18:58.56 | goozbach | levi: it was a mountain bike |
| 18:59.04 | graphyx | but the bike just slid out from under me and down I went. |
| 18:59.10 | goozbach | it still sucks less than a broken rib |
| 18:59.16 | goozbach | damn |
| 18:59.27 | goozbach | at least this time I've got health coverage |
| 18:59.33 | levi | goozbach: Ahh. I don't ride my mountain bike on the street. And I hate wearing the camelback even though I do wear it. |
| 18:59.52 | graphyx | I have only had a mountain bike for years. |
| 19:00.09 | graphyx | I think I got my first mountain bike at like 12 years old. |
| 19:00.11 | levi | Road bikes are where it's at. :) |
| 19:00.16 | graphyx | and haven't had anything else since. |
| 19:02.19 | levi | I was riding my mountain bike with brailsmt in Alpine a few years ago and we ended up coming off the dirt and riding uphill on the streets to get back to our cars. He thought it was the worst thing ever, but I enjoyed it, so I decided I was going to buy a road bike. Best thing I ever did, cycling-wise. :) |
| 19:08.07 | graphyx | the worst thing to ride a mountain bike on the street? |
| 19:08.32 | levi | Riding it uphill on the street. |
| 19:08.43 | levi | He's a downhill kind of guy. |
| 19:09.44 | levi | Anyway, road bikes are much more enjoyable to ride on the street. |
| 19:11.12 | findlay | sure are |
| 19:11.35 | findlay | nothing like riding a big, heavy, springy downhill bike on the road to absorb all your energy |
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| 19:16.49 | graphyx | findlay: my bike doesn't have shocks. |
| 19:18.16 | levi | graphyx: Does it have knobby tires? |
| 19:18.18 | findlay | but, I bet it has wide tires with bumps on it |
| 19:18.47 | findlay | downhill bikes are pretty specialized |
| 19:19.42 | graphyx | levi somewhat |
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| 19:28.45 | levi | Road bike tires are narrow, smooth, and take really high pressure. Makes a surprisingly big difference. |
| 19:30.31 | goozbach | the reason I wasn't on a road bike is that 80% of the ride took place on the trails |
| 19:30.44 | goozbach | unpaved, filled with roots, great riding |
| 19:31.12 | goozbach | riding a mt bike on asphalt kinda sucks |
| 19:31.19 | goozbach | you burn too much energy |
| 19:32.34 | findlay | goozbach: try it on a heavy downhill bike with 8 inches of travel in the front shocks and 10 in the back :) |
| 19:33.40 | levi | findlay: I can't picture you on a heavy downhill bike. |
| 19:33.53 | findlay | why not me? |
| 19:36.58 | levi | You just don't seem the type. |
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| 20:01.03 | nick125_ | hey |
| 20:04.08 | nick125_ | Anyone awake? |
| 20:04.37 | graphyx | somewhere |
| 20:05.16 | nick125_ | Any of them here |
| 20:05.17 | nick125_ | ?? |
| 20:05.18 | UtahBot | ??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] |
| 20:05.32 | nick125_ | ls |
| 20:05.33 | nick125_ | err |
| 20:05.33 | findlay | ?? <word> [> nick] |
| 20:05.35 | UtahBot | <word>[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 20:05.38 | nick125_ | wrong terminaion |
| 20:05.44 | nick125_ | terminal |
| 20:05.52 | nick125_ | I can't see what I'm typing |
| 20:05.52 | findlay | ?? <word> [> nick125_ ] |
| 20:05.54 | UtahBot | Hey findlay, i've already told you about "<word>"... no need to repeat (i think) |
| 20:06.26 | graphyx | nick125_ I am here |
| 20:06.28 | findlay | UtahBot: *why* *do* *you* *speak* *in* *bold* *all* *the* *time*? |
| 20:06.45 | nick125_ | Ugh, unpacking this portage snapshot is taking forever |
| 20:07.04 | nick125_ | Almost as long as it took to download over a connection that rarely gets over 50 |
| 20:07.08 | nick125_ | 50K/s |
| 20:12.17 | findlay | ?? life, the universe, and everything |
| 20:12.18 | UtahBot | life,[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 20:12.27 | findlay | silly bot |
| 20:14.06 | lukfugl | ?? bot |
| 20:14.06 | UtahBot | bot[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 20:14.06 | lukfugl | ?? defenition |
| 20:14.07 | UtahBot | defenition[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 20:14.11 | lukfugl | ?? definition |
| 20:14.12 | UtahBot | definition[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 20:14.26 | lukfugl | UtahBot: you're a veritable fountain of knowledge |
| 20:14.42 | findlay | ?? word |
| 20:14.44 | UtahBot | word[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 20:14.50 | findlay | heh |
| 20:15.40 | nick125_ | Anyone here play with LTSP on Gentoo? |
| 20:16.02 | nick125_ | I'm looking at possibly setting up a LTSP 5.0 server on a gentoo box |
| 20:16.16 | findlay | what's ltsp? |
| 20:16.41 | nick125_ | Linux Terminal Server Project |
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| 20:17.10 | findlay | go for it :) |
| 20:17.32 | nick125_ | \It doesn't seem like the LTSP packages for gentoo have been updated for LTSP-5.0, sadly |
| 20:25.57 | emcnabb | gentoo sucks |
| 20:26.55 | emcnabb | I used Gentoo for almost 3 years |
| 20:27.16 | emcnabb | it used to be the "hot" distro, actually innovative |
| 20:27.23 | nick125_ | The only reason I'd might use ubuntu in this case is because it has much better ltsp support |
| 20:27.23 | emcnabb | then things went downhill |
| 20:27.36 | emcnabb | someday the same will happen with Ubuntu :-) |
| 20:28.29 | levi | At least Ubuntu doesn't make silly claims about being super-optimized. |
| 20:28.38 | Jayce^ | kinda like what happened to redhat in the late 90s.... :-p |
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| 20:29.12 | emcnabb | Jayce^: *lots* of people still use us, and more and more daily |
| 20:29.31 | emcnabb | Jayce^: but you're right, it doesn't have the "hot new" distro appeal |
| 20:30.00 | emcnabb | slackware, Red Hat, SUSE, Gentoo |
| 20:30.11 | findlay | heh |
| 20:30.11 | findlay | ~gentoo levi |
| 20:30.28 | ibot | ACTION recompiles levi again |
| 20:30.59 | nick125_ | Yay for having no signal on my cell phone |
| 20:31.12 | emcnabb | every distro has its cycle |
| 20:32.16 | nick125_ | I think I might be able to run home, talk to my parents, and run back before I'll get a call to go through |
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| 20:34.58 | goozbach | o/~ the CIRCLE!!!! the CIRCLE of DISTROS!!!! o/~ |
| 20:35.15 | findlay | soon they'll talk about *re*-distributions |
| 20:35.16 | nick125_ | Oh god, don't get goozbach started. |
| 20:35.57 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 20:35.58 | ibot | slaps a compatible dib on Jayce^'s head |
| 20:36.04 | emcnabb | ~lart goozbach |
| 20:36.04 | ibot | squishes goozbach like a bug |
| 20:37.37 | findlay | ~redistribute emcnabb |
| 20:39.30 | goozbach | o/~ in the distro war, the mighty distro war Red Hat starts a fight... o/~ |
| 20:41.01 | goozbach | o~/ then novell, yes THAT novell, gets MS with their might o/~ |
| 20:41.44 | goozbach | o~/ to try with patents, oh evil patents, to stop linux on the desktop tonight o/~ |
| 20:42.31 | goozbach | o/~ oooooh WEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeEEEEeee WE need to fight back! o/~ |
| 20:42.50 | goozbach | too little sleep last night |
| 20:42.55 | goozbach | and a loritab today |
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| 21:21.17 | Jayce^ | a loritab a day keeps reality away |
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| 21:57.19 | lukfugl | -lart elg |
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| 21:57.36 | lukfugl | ~speedo harleypig |
| 21:57.41 | harleypig | w00t! |
| 21:57.56 | harleypig | That would be where *everyone* else falls over dead. |
| 21:58.45 | lukfugl | ibot: speedo $sjansen is <action> stuffs $sjansen into a harleypig sized speedo and sends them hurtling down the slip 'n slide. |
| 21:58.47 | ibot | lukfugl: okay |
| 21:58.52 | lukfugl | ~speedo elg |
| 21:58.54 | ibot | ACTION stuffs elg into a harleypig sized speedo and sends them hurtling down the slip 'n slide. |
| 21:59.14 | lukfugl | ibot: no, speedo $sjansen is <action> stuffs $sjansen into a harleypig-sized speedo and sends them hurtling down the slip 'n slide. |
| 21:59.16 | ibot | lukfugl: okay |
| 21:59.20 | lukfugl | yay for hyphens |
| 22:00.49 | elg | ibot: no, speedo $sjansen is <action> stuffs $sjansen into a harleypig-sized speedo and sends it hurtling down the slip 'n slide. |
| 22:00.51 | ibot | okay, elg |
| 22:01.08 | elg | computer scientists for a gender-neutral english pronoun: CSFAGNEP |
| 22:01.27 | lukfugl | that's why I used them |
| 22:01.47 | lukfugl | there's nothing wrong (IMO) with using "them" for a singular gender-neutral pronoun |
| 22:02.21 | findlay | or excessive-use-of-hyphens |
| 22:02.57 | lukfugl | findlay: are you saying harleypig-sized is excessive use of hyphens? |
| 22:03.46 | findlay | no, but sometimes I get tempted to excessively-use too-many-hyphens. I think I'm coming down with excessive-use-of-hyphen-disorder |
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| 22:09.33 | bonez39 | who |
| 22:10.51 | findlay | why |
| 22:12.13 | harleypig | where |
| 22:12.22 | lukfugl | ~speedo bonez39 |
| 22:12.26 | ibot | ACTION stuffs bonez39 into a harleypig-sized speedo and sends it hurtling down the slip 'n slide. |
| 22:13.06 | bonez39 | hehe... I finally booted my system...with knoppix disc..wanting to move /usr to partition with more room |
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| 22:15.48 | bonez39 | why, if booted from knoppix, et al, do the drives assume names such as /dev/sda1, etc...instead of what i see when booted up from hdd.../dev/hde1 /dev/hde5, etc. |
| 22:16.10 | beandog | scsi vs ata drivers |
| 22:16.18 | beandog | or, just old naming scheme vs new. |
| 22:16.29 | bonez39 | ata .... SATA drive |
| 22:24.41 | bonez39 | what application woul dI use to see my hard drive....and partitions, so know how to move things around? |
| 22:26.44 | beandog | fdisk |
| 22:26.47 | beandog | parted |
| 22:35.16 | bonez39 | hmmm nothing with fdisk... |
| 22:38.55 | bonez39 | I have qtparted running.... |
| 22:39.05 | bonez39 | it's new to me..is it anything like Partition Magic? |
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| 22:41.12 | beandog | I think so |
| 22:44.33 | bonez39 | dang it is quiet...for this time of day |
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| 23:06.20 | bonez39 | why is it so quiet today? |
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