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| 04:54.11 | DeathC | ... |
| 04:54.27 | Sargun | uh? |
| 04:54.59 | DeathC | (dot dot dot)... |
| 04:55.07 | DeathC | :-) |
| 04:55.08 | Sargun | why the dots? |
| 04:55.23 | DeathC | Why not? |
| 04:55.30 | Sargun | Good point. |
| 04:56.09 | DeathC | Just figured no one was talking so decided to add some ...'s to the chan |
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| 05:41.24 | vontrapp | argh, some idiot is walking around with a megaphone spouting about some website |
| 05:41.35 | vontrapp | i'm trying to sleep! |
| 05:53.00 | Sargun | haha |
| 05:53.45 | nick125_lappy | vontrapp: Sorry, won't happen again |
| 05:53.46 | nick125_lappy | :P |
| 06:20.09 | DeathC | lol prob some hornblasters |
| 06:20.14 | DeathC | jk |
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| 13:32.43 | ^Migs^ | http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/05/07/tv-babies.html |
| 13:32.46 | brac | [Most parents let babies watch TV, despite advice] |
| 13:34.25 | ^Migs^ | is TV really any worse than all the lights and sounds toys we give babies? |
| 13:35.54 | ^Migs^ | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSL0727013220070507?feedType=RSS |
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| 13:52.29 | ^Migs^ | http://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbeat/2007/05/myspace_photo_costs_teacher_ed.html |
| 13:52.31 | brac | [MySpace Photo Costs Teacher Education Degree - Offbeat] |
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| 14:35.21 | *** topic/#utah is The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | http://halls.lug-nut.com/jayce/2007/04/24/Brynn_is_Born | What part of the internet are you from? | Congrats to maquis on getting married! |
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| 14:39.09 | goozbach | ibot: never leave us again |
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| 14:58.22 | ^Migs^ | is there a way to cheaply redirect a Salt Lake City phone number to an Ogden area phone number? |
| 14:58.44 | ^Migs^ | I want to sign up for Zip Phone: http://www.zipglobal.com but they only offer SLC numbers |
| 14:58.47 | brac | [ZipGlobal - Localizing Global Communications: quality VoIP digital telephony service; Make unlimited local and long distance calls to USA, China, Hong Kong, Canada for Free] |
| 14:58.56 | ^Migs^ | and I don't want to make my family have to call long distance each time they want to call me |
| 14:59.13 | graphyx | why not just move? |
| 14:59.16 | graphyx | lol |
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| 14:59.41 | ^Migs^ | because SLC is a smog-infested dump |
| 15:00.00 | graphyx | You don't know what smog is till you like in california. |
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| 15:01.08 | bonez39 | graphyx, til you 'like' live in CA |
| 15:02.00 | ^Migs^ | how do businesses normally have multiple phone numbers that route to one line? |
| 15:02.21 | elg | they pay the phone company |
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| 15:02.28 | Lone_Wanderer | With VoIP, you just have multiple numbers and point them all to your... |
| 15:02.32 | Lone_Wanderer | pay the phone company. |
| 15:03.23 | elg | voip gives you more flexibility but you still pay someone to interface with the PSTN |
| 15:03.28 | ^Migs^ | do all the phone numbers have to be part of the same phone company's network? |
| 15:03.34 | Lone_Wanderer | no |
| 15:03.40 | ^Migs^ | because I'm going to be keeping Qwest for DSL + DirecTv |
| 15:03.51 | Lone_Wanderer | If I understand correctly, it's just like pointing a domain name at an IP. |
| 15:03.54 | ^Migs^ | oh sweet |
| 15:04.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Only it's not because it's totally different. But conceptually, you can think of it that way, if you don't want to mess with the details. |
| 15:04.14 | ^Migs^ | I wonder if they'd require me to have an actual phone service with them, though |
| 15:04.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, you can port numbers between carriers. |
| 15:04.30 | elg | back up, I'm confused |
| 15:04.34 | jsmith | Yeah, but porting numbers is a pain |
| 15:04.38 | jsmith | And often takes weeks |
| 15:04.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Some of them are cranky about it and require you to port a whole block at a time, and yes it is a pain. |
| 15:04.45 | ^Migs^ | that's fine, I'm not setting this up anytime soon |
| 15:04.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Talk to jsmith about it, he's the VoIP Man. |
| 15:05.14 | elg | -chat |
| 15:05.15 | brac | Considering Coates' expertise is building in my backyard |
| 15:06.18 | jsmith | elg: I thought that would be round Z-1 |
| 15:06.32 | ^Migs^ | pffft, I'm paying $46.94/month for my phone service right now. If I signed up for Zip Phone's value plan at $2.95/month plus 2 cents/minute for each call, I'd save a ton. I doubt I use more than 120 minutes a month. |
| 15:07.19 | ^Migs^ | except I need something better than my cheaparse welfare ActionTec DSL modem/router |
| 15:07.35 | elg | why? |
| 15:07.44 | ^Migs^ | because it goes out half the time |
| 15:07.47 | ^Migs^ | oh crap |
| 15:07.52 | ^Migs^ | GUARANTEED PRICE FOR LIFE ON QWEST HIGH-SPEED INTERNET: just $26.99/mo. when bundled with a phone package. |
| 15:08.06 | ^Migs^ | I'm on that plan. I didn't realize I had to keep the phone package |
| 15:08.08 | ^Migs^ | bleh, never mind |
| 15:08.20 | harleypig | YAGGHHHHHHHHH |
| 15:08.25 | elg | ~eat harleypig |
| 15:08.29 | ibot | ACTION eats harleypig and falls over dead |
| 15:08.35 | harleypig | :] |
| 15:08.55 | elg | jsmith: as in z inverse? are you making a DSP joke? alas, there's no dsp involved |
| 15:09.18 | jsmith | elg: Yes, I was making a DSP joke... |
| 15:09.19 | elg | just to make sure I wasn't being a braggart I wrote this program last night in Ruby, in 2 hours |
| 15:09.22 | elg | start to finish |
| 15:09.25 | graphyx | elg: perhaps he meant n-1? |
| 15:09.36 | elg | I've spent the better part of 4 days on it so far, and it'll probably take me most of today to finish it |
| 15:09.42 | elg | *if* there's no big debug issues |
| 15:09.47 | jsmith | elg: I didn't pay close enough attention to what you were building, and just assumed it was DSP-related |
| 15:09.56 | elg | i'm building a cow simulator |
| 15:09.59 | elg | :) |
| 15:10.02 | jsmith | moo |
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| 15:21.14 | findlay | -chat about cow |
| 15:21.14 | brac | cow went |
| 15:22.29 | graphyx | -chat about cow simulator |
| 15:22.29 | brac | cow simulator |
| 15:22.47 | harleypig | cow stimulator? |
| 15:23.26 | graphyx | Well you know what they say, when the chips are down, the cows (buffalos) are empty. |
| 15:23.50 | graphyx | -chat about you know |
| 15:23.51 | brac | you know as well, if it's real, when the flash recorder), and then take it. But then doesn't tell you to read perl though |
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| 15:41.58 | goozbach | thaddeusq: which redhat campus you at? |
| 15:45.31 | thaddeusq | Mountain View |
| 15:47.54 | goozbach | there's only a few which have ptr records like the one you're connected from. |
| 15:48.01 | goozbach | I like mt view |
| 15:48.10 | goozbach | Rose still working there? |
| 15:48.21 | thaddeusq | yep |
| 15:49.00 | levi | Good morning. |
| 15:49.02 | thaddeusq | It's a nice facility here, but, fine eateries seem to be in short supply |
| 15:49.18 | goozbach | that is the bad part |
| 15:49.28 | goozbach | I do enjoy the view from the classroom however |
| 15:50.08 | thaddeusq | Maybe I'm in a different place. The view from my classroom looks into a walkway. |
| 15:50.25 | goozbach | the other side of the walkway there are windows, no? |
| 15:50.45 | thaddeusq | Yeah. Just would be nice to be close to those windows. |
| 15:51.16 | goozbach | that and the outside view wasn't what I was talking about :) |
| 15:51.35 | harleypig | Anybody ever heard of Visual Paradigm? http://www.visual-paradigm.com Any thoughts on it if you have used it? |
| 15:51.55 | levi | Never heard of it, but the name sounds evil. |
| 15:52.17 | findlay | heh |
| 15:52.24 | Jayce^ | levi, what' not to like about something that says: "Support collaborative modeling with CVS and Subversion; and interoperate with UML2 model through XMI" |
| 15:52.38 | levi | Jayce^: Yow. |
| 15:53.02 | harleypig | :> |
| 15:53.10 | harleypig | It even claims to generate perl. |
| 15:53.25 | findlay | :) |
| 15:53.26 | harleypig | But it doesn't integrate with VIm |
| 15:53.32 | harleypig | or emacs |
| 15:56.23 | levi | UML is for whiteboards and notepads. |
| 15:58.37 | findlay | my viola lesson is today |
| 16:02.33 | levi | I played the viola in elementary school. |
| 16:02.43 | levi | And my wife played the viola far more recently. |
| 16:03.06 | levi | Unfortunately, a certain devil-possessed niece took it into a bathroom while we weren't watching and destroyed the bow and a string or two. |
| 16:03.16 | findlay | heh |
| 16:03.35 | findlay | that remindes me. I need to get new strings |
| 16:04.07 | findlay | joy. More money to spend |
| 16:04.40 | levi | That's life for you. |
| 16:04.45 | levi | Just one big money drain. |
| 16:04.55 | findlay | yup |
| 16:05.13 | findlay | but it's hard when you need to be saving money rather than spending it |
| 16:07.37 | levi | Indeed. |
| 16:09.48 | ^Migs^ | okay, I can get a new Qwest DSL "Price for Life" if I pay an extra $10/mo, but they won't provide out of network call forwarding. Now I need to find some other service that will forward a local Ogden number to an out of network carrier, i.e., ZipPhone |
| 16:10.40 | ^Migs^ | or am I approaching this completely wrong? |
| 16:11.02 | ^Migs^ | maybe I could just get a 1-800 number :) |
| 16:11.29 | findlay | ^Migs^: set up an asterisk server :) |
| 16:11.41 | ^Migs^ | what's that? |
| 16:11.42 | findlay | no more artificial call restrictions |
| 16:11.49 | findlay | VoIP |
| 16:12.11 | ^Migs^ | is that possible? |
| 16:12.28 | findlay | http://www.asterisk.org/ |
| 16:12.30 | ^Migs^ | how would I connect that to existing phone networks? |
| 16:12.48 | findlay | you connect to a voip provider and they have gateways to the pstn |
| 16:12.54 | ^Migs^ | whoa |
| 16:13.10 | findlay | pstn is traditional phone network |
| 16:13.42 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 16:14.04 | findlay | as for voip providers, I have arrivaltel.com. They are pretty good and local (in Lehi) or I could dig you up a list of other good ones |
| 16:14.36 | ^Migs^ | how much do you pay for them? |
| 16:15.35 | levi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.44 | levi | Our power is going to be out for hours. Gotta shut down. |
| 16:16.25 | findlay | ^Migs^: arrivaltel.com for me is $10 per month with $0.02/min for nationwide calling |
| 16:16.31 | findlay | unlimited local calls |
| 16:16.57 | ^Migs^ | Zi p Phone is only $2.95 month, for $0.02/min all calls |
| 16:17.16 | ^Migs^ | except, like I said, only SLC numbers |
| 16:17.41 | ^Migs^ | does Lehi have Ogden area numbers? |
| 16:17.43 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 16:17.44 | ^Migs^ | ArrivalTel |
| 16:18.08 | ^Migs^ | OH, you can keep your existing number |
| 16:18.37 | findlay | yeah, there's plenty of providers |
| 16:19.58 | ^Migs^ | I'm a little clueless about this, so sorry if this is a dumb question. Why would I need to set up my own VoIP server then? |
| 16:20.34 | elg | yippeee kiyiyay get along yo little dogies |
| 16:21.19 | ^Migs^ | okay, let me get this straight. The server is basically just what I would use to hook up my existing phones? |
| 16:21.56 | ^Migs^ | why wouldn't I just use their phone router? |
| 16:22.13 | ^Migs^ | I wonder if there's a combo DSL modem/wireless router/phone router |
| 16:22.30 | elg | if there is it probably sucks |
| 16:22.35 | ^Migs^ | haha yeah |
| 16:22.42 | ^Migs^ | generic welfare brand |
| 16:22.51 | elg | so, back up and tell us what you have and what you want |
| 16:23.19 | ^Migs^ | okay, let's see. I want to cancel my Qwest phone service and go with VoIP. I want an Ogden area number. |
| 16:23.50 | ^Migs^ | findlay suggested a VoIP server so I have...no artificial call restrictions? What kind of call restrictions? |
| 16:24.01 | ^Migs^ | VoIP is pretty much a flat rate to anywhere anyway, isn't it? |
| 16:24.19 | elg | voip is just voice over IP |
| 16:24.28 | ^Migs^ | well yeah |
| 16:24.35 | ^Migs^ | sorry, I meant the providers usually just have a flat rate to anywhere |
| 16:24.50 | elg | that's a common model. where anywhere is like, the US |
| 16:24.53 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 16:25.07 | jsmith | Different VoIP providers are different |
| 16:25.11 | jsmith | Some are per-minute |
| 16:25.15 | elg | you can do voip between any two computers on the internet without a provider. so the provider is your gateway to the PSTN (land lines) |
| 16:25.16 | jsmith | Some are "all you can talk" |
| 16:25.18 | ^Migs^ | so say I sign up with ArrivalTel. Would I just need their phone router? |
| 16:25.30 | jsmith | Yes. Or setup Asterisk :-) |
| 16:25.40 | ^Migs^ | I wouldn't need a phone router if I set up Asterisk? |
| 16:25.42 | elg | yes. actually with arrivaltel you'd just need any SIP device, I don't think they lock you in |
| 16:25.46 | ^Migs^ | what would I plug the phone into? |
| 16:25.55 | ^Migs^ | just my computer? |
| 16:25.58 | elg | that depends on whether you have analog or IP phones |
| 16:25.58 | findlay | ^Migs^: you certainly don't need to use asterisk. It just gives you flexibility |
| 16:26.09 | ^Migs^ | what kind of flexibility? |
| 16:26.10 | elg | you need some analog->voip conversion if you have analog phones |
| 16:26.11 | ^Migs^ | I have analog phones |
| 16:26.28 | elg | that can either be "the phone router" (ATA) or a PCI card you put in an asterisk box |
| 16:26.29 | findlay | ^Migs^: programmatic flexibility |
| 16:26.37 | elg | there's options there, but you do need some device to convert analog to voip |
| 16:26.50 | ^Migs^ | which is basically what the hardware would do |
| 16:26.53 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 16:26.58 | ^Migs^ | hardware phone router would do |
| 16:27.14 | elg | yes, they're called ATA (analog telephone adapter) |
| 16:27.20 | ^Migs^ | it seems like it'd save me extra power to just get a router, than set up an entire server. |
| 16:27.23 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 16:27.29 | elg | right |
| 16:27.33 | elg | and less hassle |
| 16:27.57 | elg | and less flexibility on the flip side. however ATAs play very nicely with asterisk and so you're not foregoing playing with asterisk down the road |
| 16:29.39 | elg | if you want to keep your number, you have to port it to your new provider |
| 16:29.39 | elg | this can be painful and like pulling teeth out of a lion |
| 16:29.40 | elg | if you just want a local number, things are much easier |
| 16:29.40 | elg | if you just want *a* number, things are even easier (and cheaper) still |
| 16:31.32 | ^Migs^ | is keeping a number painful on my part, or painful on the provider's part? |
| 16:31.46 | ^Migs^ | is it "painful" in that I'd be w/o service for awhile? |
| 16:34.15 | harleypig | hmmm ... UOL musta gone down again. |
| 16:37.33 | findlay | ^Migs^: probably both |
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| 16:39.57 | findlay | ^Migs^: voip is only now just moving out of early adopter status |
| 16:40.49 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 16:45.14 | elg | -onjoin #utah lukfugl |
| 16:45.25 | elg | ~onjoin lukfugl |
| 16:45.26 | ibot | onjoin for lukfugl set by elg on Tue Apr 24 09:13:37 2007: use the irssi, luk |
| 16:45.41 | elg | ~onjoin lukfugl The irssi will be with you, always |
| 16:45.41 | ibot | elg: ok |
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| 16:59.08 | lukfugl | I thought you fixed that yesterday, elg |
| 17:00.25 | elg | i thought I did too |
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| 17:11.45 | elg | awesome. simulink is a heisenbug |
| 17:14.51 | elg | i changed from 10 cows to 100 and it was acting completely broken |
| 17:15.06 | elg | i opened one of the subsystems and attached a display to a signal, and it worked fine |
| 17:15.15 | elg | i detach the display and close the subsystem, and it still works fine |
| 17:23.48 | ^Migs^ | that is the THIRD time I've found the custodians didn't refill the toilet paper dispenser. One of these days someone is going to walk in while I'm waddling over to the next stall with my pants around my ankles |
| 17:24.00 | ^Migs^ | they have these black opaque toilet paper dispensers that you have to reach up into to get any TP out. |
| 17:24.20 | harleypig | TMI!!! TMI!!! |
| 17:24.48 | harleypig | I hate it when that happens! Can you picture *ME* waddling along with my pants around my ankles? |
| 17:25.06 | Supaplex | no, I can't. |
| 17:25.14 | Supaplex | it's just unBAREable. |
| 17:26.43 | Tene | harleypig: this is pretty tame for migs, actually. |
| 17:28.27 | graphyx | we are hoping that perhaps one day we can help tame him and release him into the 'un'wild. |
| 17:32.17 | elg | my 2-hour ruby hack also runs a lot faster than the simulink version |
| 17:33.11 | elg | even though simulink uses both cores and my ruby hack only uses one |
| 17:39.32 | graphyx | elg: this on a public server? |
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| 17:48.00 | ^Migs^ | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,270554,00.html |
| 17:50.44 | Tene | elg: so what's simulink good for? |
| 17:51.06 | lukfugl | "Jinger" -- that's a stretch... |
| 17:56.58 | findlay | my guess is it simulates links |
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| 18:03.08 | elg | graphyx: huh? |
| 18:04.13 | elg | Tene: it's good for modeling stuff with constant state equations that aren't too complex. i.e. a bouncing ball, dsp stuff, heat in a thermostat-controlled house, etc. |
| 18:04.49 | elg | when it's easy to model what you want with a few blocks, it offers a nice picture and a rapid manipulation and pretty graphs |
| 18:05.05 | elg | it's not good at sequential stuff, imho |
| 18:07.32 | elg | graphyx: benchmarks are both on my laptop if that's what you mean |
| 18:08.45 | graphyx | elg: I guess I haven't been paying enough attention. I thought that this was a web app that could be observed. |
| 18:09.03 | elg | nope, it's a matlab extension |
| 18:09.15 | graphyx | ok |
| 18:09.32 | elg | you can see a sample image at http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/simulink.png |
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| 18:17.28 | findlay | heh |
| 18:17.52 | maquis | ~seen dilvie |
| 18:19.55 | ibot | dilvie <n=chatzill@c-67-169-243-184.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 15d 13h 35m 41s ago, saying: 'yay'. |
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| 19:34.55 | ^Migs^ | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=858 |
| 19:34.56 | brac | [Piled Higher and Deeper] |
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| 19:54.34 | ^Migs^ | this is what you get for getting retarded degrees: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/us/08default.html?em&ex=1178769600&en=39f2121ada0ff09f&ei=5087%0A |
| 19:54.37 | brac | [‘Top Chef’ Dreams Crushed by Student Loan Debt - New York Times] |
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| 20:19.18 | goozbach | no, this is an example of why debt is a bad idea |
| 20:19.45 | goozbach | there would be no problem if there wasn't debt involved |
| 20:32.05 | ^Migs^ | a cooking degree is about as useless as an arts degree |
| 20:35.04 | findlay | not as useless as a physics degree |
| 20:35.11 | goozbach | or a CS degree |
| 20:35.36 | goozbach | heck, let's just get rid of school after the fifth grade |
| 20:35.37 | findlay | :) |
| 20:35.41 | ^Migs^ | agreed |
| 20:35.43 | goozbach | that's when it stops being fun anyway |
| 20:35.50 | findlay | I'd like that |
| 20:35.55 | jsmith | I dunno... I got a EE degree, and I haven't really designed many circuits since I got it |
| 20:36.18 | findlay | but I don't think I would have been psychologically ready for that until I had already graduated high school |
| 20:36.18 | ^Migs^ | philosophy degree is pretty useless too |
| 20:37.14 | ^Migs^ | so is political science |
| 20:37.22 | ^Migs^ | man, there's a ton of useless degrees |
| 20:37.42 | ^Migs^ | why are they still around? You'd think natural selection would've eliminated them by now. |
| 20:38.00 | goozbach | ^Migs^: never underestimate the power of tenure |
| 20:38.07 | findlay | heh |
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| 21:05.10 | levi | Stupid power company. |
| 21:15.30 | ^Migs^ | http://www.break.com/index/another_reverse_movie.html |
| 21:15.31 | brac | [Break.com - Another Movie In Reverse] |
| 21:18.09 | ^Migs^ | http://break.com/index/jewish-girl-prank-calls-her-parents.html |
| 21:18.10 | brac | [Break.com - Jewish Girl Prank Calls Her Parents] |
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| 21:52.17 | elg | ibot: we heard you the first time |
| 21:52.40 | Tene | -chat about onjoin redbeard |
| 21:52.41 | brac | onjoin redbeard |
| 21:52.46 | Tene | -chat about ~onjoin redbeard |
| 21:52.46 | brac | ~onjoin redbeard Excuse me if I sound bitter. I taste that way too. |
| 21:52.46 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 21:53.09 | elg | -chat ~onjoin |
| 21:53.09 | brac | ~onjoin did |
| 21:53.18 | elg | -chat ~onjoin harleypig |
| 21:53.18 | brac | ~onjoin harleypig "Oh, bother" said Pooh as he buried Piglet's body. |
| 21:53.18 | ibot | brac: ok |
| 21:53.21 | Tene | ~onjoin redbeard -chat about ~onjoin redbeard |
| 21:53.21 | ibot | Tene: ok |
| 21:53.36 | elg | too bad he never joins as redbeard |
| 21:53.58 | Tene | more like "too bad I don't care" |
| 21:54.27 | elg | ~onjoin tene -chat about bots should |
| 21:54.27 | ibot | ok, elg |
| 21:54.37 | goozbach | -chat about bots should |
| 21:54.38 | brac | bots should only be able to see how far I haven't noticed any lag on the engineering buildings... |
| 21:54.42 | Tene | -chat about bots should |
| 21:54.42 | brac | bots should only need ser? unless it needs an ATA drive? |
| 21:54.51 | Tene | too bad I rarely reconnect |
| 21:55.12 | Tene | Oh, huh, I just reached 42 days less than an hour ago, apparently. |
| 21:55.21 | Tene | Oh, I guess it would do that on netsplits too. |
| 22:01.26 | elg | and when Jayce^ kicks you |
| 22:11.10 | Tene | Has he done that? |
| 22:11.16 | Tene | I don't remember that. |
| 22:11.47 | goozbach | or when goozbach kicks you |
| 22:19.55 | elg | no, but you never can tell with Jayce^ the operator |
| 22:20.57 | elg | finally, my sojourn in the land of simulink comes to a close |
| 22:21.36 | elg | depending on how long it takes me to grade this last assignment, I may have a chance to do the assignment in erlang too. that'd be an interesting comparison. |
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| 22:40.17 | levi | http://www.mathsnet.net/geometry/solid/houses.html?Text1=jp |
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| 23:36.48 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 23:43.24 | levi | elg: You should try this out: http://www.mathsnet.net/geometry/solid/houses.html?Text1=jp |
| 23:48.08 | elg | this is awesome. my brother on a mission made it, apparently with a little handheld torch and plastic clothes hangers |
| 23:48.44 | elg | http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/IMG_1594.JPG |
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