| 00:03.37 | TheWoozle | Same here. |
| 00:04.00 | TheWoozle | I've posted some tracks on Jamendo, but they want it all packaged nicely as an "album" or "EP", including cover art... |
| 00:04.20 | TheWoozle | So I went and drew some cover art, but then we rearranged the office before I had a chance to scan it, and now I can't find it >.< |
| 00:05.00 | TheWoozle | What I really want is a site that lets you upload individual tracks, and allows the good stuff to become popular by a community approval process of some kind. |
| 00:05.28 | nick125_lappy | TheWoozle: That'd be great |
| 00:07.05 | TheWoozle | Yup. I'd set it up myself if I had the time. Too many web projects... |
| 00:10.07 | TheWoozle | Once a set of tracks became popular (and maybe got some helpful comments), it would be easier for the artist to decide what would go together well for a "CD"-like release. And maybe attract interested 3rd parties for doing cover art and such. |
| 00:12.29 | Tene | wzl: read that study about music popularity with anonymous and non-anonymous voting and such? |
| 00:12.29 | TheWoozle | No... linky? |
| 00:13.11 | Tene | don't remember, but it was pretty interesting. |
| 00:23.21 | nick125_lappy | I wish I could get the good speakers hooked up to my laptop |
| 00:30.58 | atoponce | anyone know how to left-align a nested list using css, so all nested and parent lists are left-aligned together? |
| 00:32.36 | atoponce | i don't want to see a list 'tabbed' in from the parent. |
| 00:55.52 | Tene | ato: negative margin-left on li |
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| 01:21.03 | nick125_lappy | Ugh, I want a patch cable to connect my lappy to my stereo (so I can blast the house with my CC-licensed radio station ;-), but, I don't want to pay radioshack a zillion dollars for one |
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| 01:32.24 | Tene | atoponce: that work for you? |
| 01:32.43 | atoponce | Tene: well, i ended up doing something different |
| 01:32.54 | Tene | atoponce: the other option is to screw around with display: on the <li>s |
| 01:33.06 | Tene | or float them or something |
| 01:33.24 | atoponce | the problem with negative margins, is IE. very frustrating |
| 01:33.37 | nick125_lappy | Why is it that every place in town that sells cables rips you off beyond believe? |
| 01:33.42 | atoponce | you would think that there would be a rule for it, thought |
| 01:33.48 | atoponce | s/ht/h/ |
| 01:34.05 | Tene | oh, there was something I did to make it work in IE. I can look it up for you if you want me to. |
| 01:34.07 | atoponce | i mean, aligning a child list with a parent list shouldn't be hard |
| 01:34.13 | atoponce | nah. that's ok |
| 01:34.32 | atoponce | i completely redesigned the code, and don't need it anymore |
| 01:34.38 | atoponce | thx though |
| 01:34.41 | Tene | np |
| 01:35.00 | nick125_lappy | CompUSA wants $4.99 for a 6 foot cable, while I can go online and order a 12 foot one for $4 |
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| 02:12.41 | findlay | that's nothing compared to what usb cable price fixing |
| 02:13.46 | findlay | I went into compusa, and bestbuy and at each store their prices for 3',6',9' usb cables were each about $20 |
| 02:15.05 | findlay | what really gets me is when they put 'gold' on the usb cable shielding |
| 02:15.15 | findlay | and charge more for it |
| 02:15.16 | findlay | :) |
| 02:15.37 | findlay | s/cable/jack/ |
| 02:15.39 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 02:16.32 | vontrapp | yeah, usb cables are outrageous |
| 02:16.46 | findlay | 'your USB cable jacks have been TURBO Shielded!' |
| 02:16.52 | vontrapp | at least you can build your own audio patch cable for cheaper |
| 02:17.00 | findlay | oh yeah |
| 02:17.06 | nick125_lappy | TURBO ULTRA MEGA SHIELDED THAT WILL MAKE YOUR USB GO ZOOM ZOOM!! |
| 02:17.37 | findlay | so does it give me extra lives in super mario bros or megaman? |
| 02:17.42 | vontrapp | buy a spool of speaker cable, you'll have many an occasion to use it :) |
| 02:17.50 | nick125_lappy | findlay: Yup! |
| 02:17.50 | vontrapp | then get your connectors |
| 02:17.54 | nick125_lappy | And much more! |
| 02:18.08 | findlay | but avoid radio shack at all costs |
| 02:18.11 | vontrapp | and you can make it just as long as you need |
| 02:18.18 | vontrapp | amen |
| 02:18.26 | findlay | because their costs are 5x a decent electronics supplier |
| 02:18.52 | nick125_lappy | CompUSA wanted $10 for a audio "extension" cable |
| 02:18.55 | nick125_lappy | 6 foot, too |
| 02:18.56 | vontrapp | you can get connectors at that central utah supply place for a fraction of a dollar |
| 02:19.11 | nick125_lappy | vontrapp: do they ship? |
| 02:19.13 | vontrapp | radio shack i think i sa couple dollars each |
| 02:19.16 | findlay | or standard electronics on 300 W in SL |
| 02:19.22 | nick125_lappy | (or do you know a place that sells them online) |
| 02:19.37 | findlay | there's always the big outlets like digikey |
| 02:19.45 | findlay | can't remember some of the others |
| 02:20.06 | findlay | you can probably find something decent on froogle |
| 02:20.07 | nick125_lappy | For $55, I got 100ft of cat5e cable, a crimping tool, and about 20 connectors at lowes |
| 02:20.21 | vontrapp | yum |
| 02:20.22 | nick125_lappy | CompUSA would probably charge $100 for a premade cable |
| 02:20.32 | vontrapp | what about the tester? |
| 02:20.44 | nick125_lappy | vontrapp: I don't need a tester |
| 02:20.49 | findlay | heh |
| 02:20.50 | nick125_lappy | ping -f works great :-) |
| 02:20.51 | vontrapp | :P |
| 02:21.54 | nick125_lappy | You can't even get a 100 foot ethernet cable at compusa.. |
| 02:22.05 | nick125_lappy | but, they will sell you 100 feet of cat5e cable for $60 |
| 02:23.13 | nick125_lappy | You can get really cheap cables from them (compared to their stuff in store) if you order online, but, for some reason, they don't stock them in store |
| 02:23.44 | nick125_lappy | Oh, I lied. They do sell a 100 foot premade cat5e cable. For $80. |
| 02:23.55 | vontrapp | used to be you could get any cable from a big bin at mas cmaputers for $2 |
| 02:24.08 | vontrapp | i think i got some 25 footers once |
| 02:24.14 | nick125_lappy | nice |
| 02:25.26 | nick125_lappy | I could go to cyberguys and order a 100ft cat5e cable for about $20 |
| 02:25.31 | nick125_lappy | $18.99 plus shipping actually |
| 02:26.12 | nick125_lappy | I think these retail stores should all go to jail for extortion |
| 02:26.39 | sontek | Thats why we need to get a frys in Utah |
| 02:26.53 | sontek | I just make a shopping list and pick everything up at Frys when I go to Vegas |
| 02:27.47 | nick125_lappy | That was funny, when I walked into compusa, there was a big sign saying "We're staying because of YOU!", I want to yell "oh, what a pity" when I saw that |
| 02:36.51 | nick125_lappy | Wow, this is funny: most of the stories on the digg front page are the HD-DVD key (or related) |
| 02:37.39 | nick125_lappy | 13 stories out of 17 stories |
| 02:38.43 | nick125_lappy | 13 out of 15 |
| 02:39.09 | nick125_lappy | Now its 14 out of 15 |
| 02:41.27 | nick125_lappy | All of the "Top 10 Stories" are HD-DVD key related |
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| 04:07.10 | elg | anyone want a 1 month free trial of netflix? |
| 04:07.45 | Tene | elg: why? |
| 04:07.56 | elg | just have a coupon |
| 04:08.00 | elg | they're doing a promotion |
| 04:08.16 | elg | their usual trial period is 2 weeks |
| 04:08.19 | nick125_lappy | Anyone here have a treo (or another palm device, for that matter) that has (or can download pocket tunes)? |
| 04:08.39 | elg | you seek lisp |
| 04:09.02 | elg | lisp. for all your parenthesization needs |
| 04:10.01 | nick125_lappy | For some reason, my radio stream doesn't work on my treo with pocket tunes |
| 04:10.36 | elg | lol. xkcd++ |
| 04:11.13 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | http://halls.lug-nut.com/jayce/2007/04/24/Brynn_is_Born | What part of the internet are you from? |
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| 04:16.44 | elg | atoponce: it's not ok to wink, but it's ok to use asian characters that remotely resemble smileys? |
| 04:17.03 | elg | i think you have a very narrow concept of the body language we call winking |
| 04:18.34 | elg | atoponce: oh, and you forgot don't abuse the bots. ;-) |
| 04:18.57 | elg | -chat about winking is |
| 04:18.57 | brac | winking is |
| 04:21.23 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 04:35.16 | atoponce | elg: what? this? ツ |
| 04:35.34 | atoponce | that's not winking |
| 04:40.08 | nick125_lappy | Hmm |
| 04:43.29 | nick125_lappy | I feel stupid. I figured out why ptunes wouldn't play my ogg vorbis stream. I didn't have the ogg vorbis codecs installed |
| 04:43.32 | elg | no but it's not a smiley either |
| 04:44.32 | atoponce | ahh, but it looks like one, and it's creative |
| 04:45.21 | elg | so does ;-) look like a wink, and it's arguably creative |
| 04:45.48 | atoponce | but it's still a wink, creative or not |
| 04:47.26 | elg | so? |
| 04:48.54 | elg | you figure out how to make an ascii smirk, or "knowing glance" |
| 04:49.20 | atoponce | -_- |
| 04:50.01 | elg | I'm not a fan of those horizontal emoticons. they look like line noise to me |
| 04:50.21 | elg | if there was something, it would probably already be in use |
| 04:52.26 | atoponce | :7 |
| 04:52.41 | atoponce | meh |
| 04:57.32 | nick125_lappy | It'd help if they mentioned the freaking ogg vorbis codec pack *anywhere* in their KB |
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| 05:19.37 | Sargun | ? |
| 05:19.37 | nick125_lappy | Stupid slow POS |
| 05:19.38 | Sargun | What happened? |
| 05:21.19 | nick125_lappy | I'm trying to stream my station to my treo |
| 05:21.19 | nick125_lappy | It keeps cutting out |
| 05:21.19 | nick125_lappy | Though, I guess one reason might be because I'm streaming at Q5 |
| 05:21.19 | nick125_lappy | which is ~160kbit or so |
| 05:21.39 | Sargun | Q5? |
| 05:25.59 | Sargun | Quarter 5? |
| 05:25.59 | Sargun | there isn't a quarter 5? |
| 05:25.59 | nick125_lappy | OGG/Vorbis quality Q5 |
| 05:26.01 | Sargun | CONFUZLLIZATION |
| 05:26.01 | Sargun | Oh. |
| 05:26.01 | Sargun | Digg got owned today |
| 05:26.04 | Sargun | I cried in tears of happiness |
| 05:26.27 | nick125_lappy | "got"/ |
| 05:26.33 | nick125_lappy | "got"? They still are. |
| 05:27.56 | nick125_lappy | *EVERY* front-page story is about the HD-DVD key |
| 05:28.10 | nick125_lappy | *EVERY* top-10 story is about the HD-DVD key |
| 05:30.56 | Sargun | how'd they do that |
| 05:31.07 | Tene | http://www.badmouth.net/free-speech-flag/ |
| 05:31.11 | Sargun | the 1 digg story on the front page |
| 05:32.13 | Sargun | 09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0 |
| 05:33.11 | nick125_lappy | I would set my treo to play my station all night, but, I'm afraid my treo might melt into a puddle of silicon.. |
| 05:34.41 | nick125_lappy | This entire thing is funny. |
| 05:36.26 | Sargun | lol |
| 05:38.30 | nick125_lappy | Nearly 5 pages of this |
| 05:38.36 | nick125_lappy | Not including what was deleted |
| 05:39.02 | nick125_lappy | uh oh |
| 05:39.05 | nick125_lappy | The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. |
| 05:40.08 | Sargun | lol |
| 05:40.24 | nick125_lappy | I'm going to bed, I'm tired |
| 05:40.25 | nick125_lappy | night :p |
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| 12:34.30 | elg | -chat |
| 12:34.33 | brac | blitzrage goes back and ask if they've looked at rtp, and you can actually get to go look |
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| 13:54.34 | ^Migs^ | http://www.figurelicious.com/400-pound-jessica |
| 13:55.34 | graphyx | how do you get to be 400 pounds at 7 years old? |
| 13:56.16 | ^Migs^ | Bad parenting. |
| 13:56.20 | ^Migs^ | REALLY bad parenting. |
| 13:56.40 | nick125_lappy | ^Migs^: Even with that, I can't even think of how that could actually happen |
| 13:56.54 | ^Migs^ | although I don't see how non-stop Happy Meals could do that. There had to be something very wrong with her genetically. |
| 13:56.59 | ^Migs^ | or medically |
| 13:57.21 | ^Migs^ | all the same, I want to go to Tennessee and smack the crap out of the parents for abusing their child like that. |
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| 13:57.40 | nick125_lappy | Even if you feed her fried butter on a stick, I don't see how that would cause someone to become 400 pounds at 7. |
| 13:58.25 | graphyx | does frying butter make it any worse for you? |
| 13:58.37 | ^Migs^ | fried butter doesn't really sound all that great |
| 13:58.52 | elg | it's the stick |
| 13:59.28 | graphyx | Well here in conway, arkansas, this week is the toad suck daze feastival. |
| 13:59.36 | graphyx | It is the biggest event around here. |
| 13:59.58 | graphyx | including the ability purchase anything fried on a stick. |
| 14:00.20 | graphyx | including such things as twinkies and snickers bars. |
| 14:00.23 | nick125_lappy | graphyx: anything? |
| 14:01.03 | graphyx | Well you might not be able to get crack fried on a stick, but You know. |
| 14:01.12 | nick125_lappy | "Hi, I'd like to order a Human-on-a-stick" |
| 14:01.18 | nick125_lappy | "Sure, that'll be $5.99" |
| 14:01.23 | nick125_lappy | [ five minutes later ] |
| 14:01.30 | nick125_lappy | "AAHHH!!!! NO!!! NOT THE BATTER!!!" |
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| 14:23.16 | tensai | I deep fried a twinkie once. it was so good. I couldn't possibly have eaten more than one though. |
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| 14:43.41 | levi | Morning. |
| 14:44.39 | Sargun | hi |
| 14:44.46 | elg | morning |
| 14:44.48 | Sargun | levi, What's up? |
| 14:45.17 | elg | i bet he's itching to talk about control over time in dataflow programming |
| 14:45.28 | levi | elg: How'd you guess?!?! |
| 14:46.24 | graphyx | cause it is a more appealing topic that fried twinkies. |
| 14:46.30 | elg | i have no problem setting up the math parts of this assignment, but I'm mostly lost in two respects: dealing with the multiple phases (driving cows from the barn to the pasture, grazing, driving them home at night, skip over ther est of the night) |
| 14:46.50 | vontrapp | how much for a barcode reader? |
| 14:46.50 | elg | and how to programatically create n cows each with their own state |
| 14:47.01 | graphyx | vontrapp: Get a cuecat |
| 14:47.02 | vontrapp | is there free software to run one? |
| 14:47.23 | graphyx | they were free at radio shack for a while back in 01 or so |
| 14:47.28 | graphyx | yes there is code to use it. |
| 14:47.32 | vontrapp | ah cute, it's a cat |
| 14:47.50 | graphyx | it is a contrast to the mouse that we all know and love?. |
| 14:47.50 | levi | I picked one up when they were giving them away. I never used it. |
| 14:47.55 | vontrapp | what about a western and/or saw/engine themed reader? |
| 14:48.00 | Keighvin | Very good xkcd this morning. |
| 14:49.08 | levi | elg: So, by control over time, you mean keeping track of simulation time and making sure your updates take it into account? |
| 14:49.20 | elg | right |
| 14:49.56 | elg | the cowboys start driving about 7:30 am but exactly when is distributed normally with a stddev of about 15 minutes (lazy bums) |
| 14:50.08 | elg | then the cows get driven until they get to the destination |
| 14:50.17 | elg | then they graze all day |
| 14:50.36 | elg | then at some time in the afternoon (again normally distributed about a point) the cows come home |
| 14:50.59 | elg | in procedural, it's simple |
| 14:51.01 | levi | Well, it seems to me that you could set it up kind of like a digital circuit, with a clock signal generator that sends out events. |
| 14:53.08 | levi | "Here be Anthropomorphic Dragons" |
| 14:54.07 | elg | yeah, I think I can do something with the digital clock source and the have this interval block that I could use to trigger |
| 14:54.26 | levi | FrTime does that, too. |
| 14:54.44 | levi | (the dataflow language in PLT Scheme) |
| 14:55.45 | elg | it will mean lots more state |
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| 14:55.54 | vontrapp | so whree does one get a cuecat? |
| 14:56.19 | levi | vontrapp: I got mine years ago at Radio Shack. |
| 14:56.41 | levi | I suppose you're trying to get your grubby hands on mine, eh? ;) |
| 14:57.02 | graphyx | I think I still have mine lying around |
| 14:57.27 | graphyx | but the current status of things is that barcodes are only really used in retial, |
| 14:57.36 | graphyx | so what would I ever need it for? |
| 14:57.58 | graphyx | however the run over to my house would cost more than a good commercial grade one currently. |
| 14:58.21 | vontrapp | i feel like tony the tigerr, stupid r key |
| 14:58.54 | tensai | you'll be better off buying a real bar code scanner |
| 14:59.03 | graphyx | does it feel grrrreat? |
| 14:59.09 | vontrapp | hmmm, does a 'good commercial grade' one mean one with proprietary drivers and lameness? |
| 14:59.23 | vontrapp | it feels miserrrable |
| 14:59.31 | levi | elg: State is an essential part of most programs. It's shared, mutable state that's evil. :) |
| 14:59.37 | tensai | the ones I've seen plug in like a keyboard and just input the numbers as if you had typed them |
| 15:00.41 | elg | levi: yes, but using state to represent the sequential nature of a problem, which is automatically represented in, well, sequential programming, feels like a waste. |
| 15:01.02 | vontrapp | also, it would be nice if the mechanic could scan a barcode as well (another scanner) and maybe punch a button that says working on it, on hold, or finished |
| 15:01.09 | vontrapp | that would be awesome |
| 15:01.09 | elg | and when the waste directly translates to wasted screen space and graph complexity it makes me even more reluctant |
| 15:01.15 | vontrapp | anything like that? |
| 15:01.16 | elg | but I suppose it's the only way |
| 15:03.09 | vontrapp | is there a way in x or otherwise to say 'when you get input from this device do something special with it'? |
| 15:03.42 | goozbach | YAY! I understand dircolors now |
| 15:03.52 | vontrapp | dircolors is awesome |
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| 15:04.15 | goozbach | elg: why didn't you slap me when I was using your script to generate LS_COLORS and add it to my .bashrc? |
| 15:04.18 | elg | conso conso conso conso consolechameleon |
| 15:04.35 | elg | goozbach: huh? |
| 15:04.40 | vontrapp | it wigs me out when i use a vanilla dircolors |
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| 15:05.03 | goozbach | elg: I'm blaming you for all my dircolors related problems |
| 15:05.16 | elg | oh you mean when you weren't using eval `dircolors -b ~/etc/dircolors.conf`? |
| 15:05.25 | elg | i was going to but i was kind of busy that day |
| 15:05.27 | elg | and forgot :) |
| 15:05.37 | vontrapp | ~forget goozbach |
| 15:05.37 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'goozbach ' to forget, vontrapp |
| 15:06.26 | goozbach | instead of modifiying your dircolors and placing it in ~/.dircolors (which on RH automaticly gets evaled), I ran dircolors once and put the resulting LS_COLORS into my .bashrc |
| 15:06.44 | elg | ~/.dircolors, even better |
| 15:07.03 | vontrapp | i know there are those cordless scanners like what bbb uses, that have are a computer in themselves, and you can perform different actions on them |
| 15:07.10 | goozbach | yeah, I was tupid |
| 15:07.24 | vontrapp | how customizable a one of those can one get, and how much? |
| 15:07.37 | goozbach | tupid tupid tupid! |
| 15:23.10 | vontrapp | is mysql authentication secure? |
| 15:26.32 | levi | Sweet, now I know exactly how to annoy atoponce on IRC. ;) |
| 15:27.04 | atoponce | omgroflmao!!!!!1111!1!!11!one |
| 15:27.07 | Keighvin | vontrapp: It's pretty good, assuming it's configured properly. |
| 15:27.16 | Keighvin | ataponce: bbq? |
| 15:28.09 | levi | lolzrs!!1 |
| 15:30.03 | levi | ... |
| 15:30.43 | levi | I totally missed the news that Pres. Bush & congress declared yesterday 'Loyalty Day'. |
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| 15:36.10 | atoponce | Keighvin: ataponce? who's that? |
| 15:36.50 | atoponce | :) |
| 15:38.13 | vontrapp | ;) |
| 15:38.31 | vontrapp | atoponce: i think winking means much more than just sexy |
| 15:39.31 | sjansen | ~wake sjansen |
| 15:39.33 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on sjansen and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 15:39.34 | vontrapp | haha, no! not more in that sense |
| 15:39.35 | vontrapp | sheesh |
| 15:39.49 | vontrapp | more as in different things |
| 15:40.43 | vontrapp | like 'you know what i mean' or even 'yeah, huh? huh? yeah? ;) ;)' |
| 15:41.08 | atoponce | then there's :P |
| 15:41.44 | vontrapp | i sike :P |
| 15:41.52 | vontrapp | like |
| 15:42.25 | vontrapp | and berenstein bears :} |
| 15:42.30 | sjansen | [Q]: How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? [A]: The fish. |
| 15:42.35 | atoponce | what's it's conotation. to me, it's sticking your tongue out, as a 3 year old would do to his dad when he can't get his new pair of shoes |
| 15:44.04 | vontrapp | atoponce: that's exactly it |
| 15:44.08 | atoponce | s/./?/ |
| 15:44.14 | vontrapp | childishness for irc |
| 15:44.39 | vontrapp | :p |
| 15:44.47 | vontrapp | i win |
| 15:44.52 | atoponce | it's no wonder why more 'normal' people don't use irc- it's run by a bunch of immature teens |
| 15:45.26 | vontrapp | i've never been in a channel run by teens |
| 15:45.35 | vontrapp | this one only has a few |
| 15:46.06 | levi | Poor atoponce. What a tragic character! Can't deal with any amount of silliness at all. |
| 15:46.18 | atoponce | ~shoot levi |
| 15:46.33 | ibot | ACTION shoots levi in the foot with a quantum singularity weapon! |
| 15:46.49 | levi | atoponce: How childish, playing with the bots like that. :P ;) |
| 15:47.03 | vontrapp | lolz |
| 15:47.05 | atoponce | lololol |
| 15:47.50 | atoponce | vontrapp: this channel has a few who are teens, and a few who act like teens |
| 15:48.23 | vontrapp | er, not |
| 15:48.39 | vontrapp | i wanna be both |
| 15:48.40 | sjansen | I know you are, but what am I? |
| 15:49.06 | sjansen | i wanna be emcnabb |
| 15:49.13 | levi | I wanna be sedated |
| 15:49.15 | sjansen | PSYCH! |
| 15:49.46 | vontrapp | i know you know that i ain't telling the truth |
| 15:49.47 | levi | sjansen: No, if you want to look really immature, you have to spell it 'syk' or something. |
| 15:49.53 | sjansen | levi: I feel sedated. Accidentally took a nap before work. Now I'm trying to figure out how to finish waking up. |
| 15:50.35 | vontrapp | is mysql good on windows? |
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| 15:51.04 | levi | Is cheese good on apricots? |
| 15:51.08 | vontrapp | i think i'm going to do a rruby program with mysql and tk |
| 15:51.26 | levi | Is anchovy paste good on melba toast? |
| 15:51.28 | vontrapp | it would run on the windows desktop at the shop |
| 15:51.38 | vontrapp | maybe i could put ubuntu on it... |
| 15:51.48 | vontrapp | haven't asked them |
| 15:52.13 | vontrapp | nm, they have peachtree for their accounting, that wouldn't work |
| 15:52.17 | sjansen | Squeaky cheese is good on goiabada. |
| 15:52.36 | vontrapp | cheese and apricots sounds good |
| 15:52.46 | vontrapp | my favorite is chedder on pineapple |
| 15:52.56 | vontrapp | ~pineapple goozbach |
| 15:53.04 | vontrapp | sharp cheddar |
| 15:53.07 | sjansen | ~cheese vontrapp |
| 15:54.16 | levi | How about gorgonzola on endive? |
| 15:57.13 | sjansen | ~ernest atoponce |
| 15:57.15 | ibot | ACTION forces atoponce to watch a 5 day marathon of repeated Ernest movies. |
| 16:06.31 | findlay_ | stupid ubuntu |
| 16:06.42 | findlay_ | this is the second time it nuked my gnome settings |
| 16:07.27 | findlay_ | the ugly brown is damaging my eyes |
| 16:07.52 | elg | how ironic |
| 16:08.44 | findlay_ | why ironic? |
| 16:11.49 | sjansen | Yes, in the Alanis Morisette isn't it iron how un-ironic all of my ironic statements are sense? |
| 16:13.10 | sjansen | <grammar_lesson> |
| 16:13.12 | sjansen | http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipsep99a.htm |
| 16:13.14 | brac | [Writer's Block - Writing Tips - Affect Vs. Effect] |
| 16:13.16 | sjansen | </grammar_lesson> |
| 16:21.14 | vontrapp | gah, i can't get activerecord to require |
| 16:21.45 | elg | no, not in the alanis sense |
| 16:29.36 | levi | elg: What is ironic? |
| 16:30.40 | lukfugl | ~ironic |
| 16:32.22 | sjansen | ~cheese lukfugl |
| 16:32.24 | ibot | ACTION hands lukfugl a tray of sliced sharp cheddar and pineapple |
| 16:32.55 | lukfugl | mmm |
| 16:35.19 | vontrapp | the brown that ubuntu means to be soft and pleasant is damaging and ugly? |
| 16:39.07 | sjansen | ~poo vontrapp |
| 16:39.09 | ibot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at vontrapp |
| 16:42.08 | elg | or that findlay's computer might be thinking the same thing about him |
| 16:43.47 | findlay_ | well it's at least irksome when it shows up twice without asking |
| 16:46.35 | sjansen | ~irk findlay_ |
| 16:47.32 | elg | or that findlay seems to be violent allergic to the first desktop that actually looks good out of the box |
| 16:47.39 | elg | s/violent/violently/ |
| 16:48.00 | elg | mostly I leave it up to your imaginations |
| 16:48.13 | sjansen | Ubuntu brown looks good? |
| 16:48.19 | elg | yes |
| 16:48.20 | findlay_ | elg: probably that too |
| 16:48.25 | sjansen | elg: You've been in the desert too long. It's addling your brain. |
| 16:48.26 | findlay_ | heh |
| 16:48.46 | elg | it looks good to a lot of people |
| 16:48.55 | sjansen | Find some shade, drink a little water, eventually you'll come to your senses. |
| 16:49.09 | elg | utahns seem to be an exception. probably because they are trained to pretend they don't live in a desert |
| 16:49.35 | findlay | ~dune sjansen |
| 16:51.23 | sjansen | Fedora blue circa FC4 is best, IMNSHO. |
| 16:53.25 | goozbach | sjansen: amen |
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| 16:53.54 | goozbach | the latest RHEL is killing me with the red |
| 16:54.28 | findlay | ~dune goozbach |
| 16:54.30 | ibot | ACTION transports goozbach to a desert planet with leviathan worms, blue-eyed natives one of which goozbach will marry and where all the computer displays are ubuntu-brown |
| 16:55.16 | goozbach | i am the kizwach haderach |
| 16:56.06 | elg | i don't like blue themes (anymore) |
| 16:56.11 | elg | though red would be worse |
| 16:56.12 | sjansen | There are no computers in the world of Dune. |
| 16:56.25 | elg | give me greens and browns |
| 16:56.28 | elg | and subdued reds |
| 16:56.33 | elg | and dark background |
| 16:56.38 | elg | greys are ok too |
| 16:56.58 | Jayce^ | dark background, greens, blues, greys.. :) |
| 16:57.04 | sjansen | Foresight green is okay. |
| 16:57.32 | lukfugl | goozbach: kwizach, now kizwach |
| 16:57.34 | elg | better than XP any day |
| 16:57.40 | elg | vista has a decent default color scheme |
| 16:57.52 | lukfugl | spelling might still be wrong, but the intended pronunciation is closer :) |
| 16:58.18 | lukfugl | wikipedia says kwisatz |
| 16:58.50 | elg | you run haiku? |
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| 16:59.29 | elg | http://haiku-os.org/ |
| 17:00.23 | elg | or did you mean the haiku image. that leaf thing |
| 17:07.02 | findlay | aw, looks like my gmail spam peaks out around 4000 before it starts to roll over |
| 17:07.30 | findlay | but there's probably nothing less healthy for you than expired spam |
| 17:07.47 | findlay | so I should feel blessed |
| 17:15.37 | Keighvin | Can spam expire? |
| 17:15.53 | goozbach | tis ok, i'm a mentat |
| 17:16.03 | elg | -chat goozbach |
| 17:16.03 | brac | goozbach went |
| 17:16.04 | findlay | gmail thinks spam has a shelf life of 30 days |
| 17:16.16 | findlay | the mentat went |
| 17:16.39 | Keighvin | So did sjansen. |
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| 17:16.43 | lukfugl | -chat about kwisatz haderach |
| 17:16.44 | brac | kwisatz haderach |
| 17:16.47 | elg | oh good, now we can talk about sjansen behind his bak |
| 17:16.54 | findlay | heh |
| 17:17.46 | elg | one hack after another |
| 17:18.02 | elg | this thing has more design patterns than a java CAD system |
| 17:18.23 | goozbach | sjansen: that's not entirely true. the bene gesserit kept computers for genological purposes |
| 17:19.48 | redbeard2 | goozbach: nutella ice cream. |
| 17:19.48 | Keighvin | And they run ubuntu, apparently. |
| 17:19.48 | elg | orvon gene autry was the son of delbert autry and elnora ozmont |
| 17:19.48 | redbeard2 | Keighvin! |
| 17:19.52 | elg | talk about a nominally dysfunctional family |
| 17:21.18 | Keighvin | Hm? |
| 17:22.40 | lukfugl | it seems a large portion of the Ruby community (self included) has become infatuated with erlang |
| 17:23.02 | findlay | erlruby! |
| 17:23.17 | findlay | rublang |
| 17:26.51 | Keighvin | First one sounds less likely to be used in an offensive context. |
| 17:26.54 | levi | lukfugl: Such a beast would almost certainly lack a lot of the safety/reliability of erlang. |
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| 17:27.54 | lukfugl | levi: probably |
| 17:28.33 | levi | lukfugl: Have you seen erights.org ? |
| 17:28.58 | levi | They've got a distributed computing model that is probably a better fit for OO languages. |
| 17:29.00 | lukfugl | I wasn't really implying a hybrid language, but e.g. bindings so that people start saying "For performance, write it in erlang" instead of "write it in C" :) |
| 17:29.12 | lukfugl | or, "For concurrency, ..." |
| 17:30.14 | levi | It shouldn't be too difficult to enable ruby code to communicate with an erlang node via the wire protocol. |
| 17:30.27 | levi | Luke Gorrie wrote an emacs mode that does that. |
| 17:30.41 | levi | (from elisp to erlang, that is) |
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| 17:39.28 | goozbach | redbeard2: no way! |
| 17:39.38 | goozbach | hmm should I attempt it? |
| 17:39.50 | goozbach | my girlfriend is a bit of a nutella freak |
| 17:40.01 | goozbach | I don't know if I could handle the presure |
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| 17:42.55 | emcnabb | goozbach: girlfriend? |
| 17:43.10 | goozbach | emcnabb: yes |
| 17:43.20 | emcnabb | wow, there are miracles |
| 17:44.09 | goozbach | http://www.friocorte.com/talam/photo?photo_id=15947 |
| 17:44.41 | elg | goozbach: just try it without telling her, and if she likes it you succeeded. if she doesn't, then deny nutella involvement |
| 17:44.56 | elg | "should you or your nutella be captured, IMF will disavow all knowledge" |
| 17:45.37 | emcnabb | goozbach: congrats |
| 17:46.05 | herlo | goozbach: I think she's fake |
| 17:46.19 | emcnabb | goozbach: no goatee? |
| 17:46.45 | goozbach | emcnabb: I've been pretty clean cut for over a year now |
| 17:46.57 | emcnabb | goozbach: what's going on? |
| 17:47.24 | elg | and short hair |
| 17:47.24 | lukfugl | goozbach: you two have about the same height difference as my wife and I :) |
| 17:47.25 | elg | and a suit |
| 17:47.41 | elg | sounds like florida is bad for you |
| 17:47.53 | elg | don't move to florida emcnabb |
| 17:48.18 | elg | emcnabb: when are you going to grow out your elbow-length beard? |
| 17:48.33 | goozbach | when I cut my hair, shaved, and started wearing a suit to church... I started getting all sorts of female attention. |
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| 17:48.38 | goozbach | it was wierd... |
| 17:49.06 | emcnabb | elg: I've had a goatee before, and I actually enjoyed it |
| 17:49.07 | sargun_screen | goozbach: Hey |
| 17:49.24 | findlay | ~shoot sargun_screen |
| 17:49.37 | ibot | ACTION shoots sargun_screen in the foot with a phase pistol! |
| 17:49.39 | emcnabb | goozbach: pretty soon you're going to be... well... maybe... married! |
| 17:49.56 | findlay | your foot has been phased |
| 17:50.01 | sargun_screen | I like rubbing my facial hair :-) |
| 17:50.57 | elg | goozbach: well, that's a good point. |
| 17:51.22 | elg | i probably wouldn't have caught me wife with a beard, but now that we're married she likes it |
| 17:51.26 | elg | may you have the same luck |
| 17:51.27 | emcnabb | sargun_screen: you don't have facial hair |
| 17:51.47 | sargun_screen | Yeah I do, well, a little bit. |
| 17:51.49 | elg | not even your screen does |
| 17:51.58 | sargun_screen | Haha, my screen does not |
| 17:53.34 | emcnabb | elg: "i probably wouldn't have caught me wife with a beard": are you saying your probably wouldn't have married your wife if she had a beard? :-) |
| 17:54.08 | elg | i suppose that's one true interpretation |
| 17:55.15 | elg | some days I just want to find a way to put permanent hair loss potion in the water supply |
| 17:55.38 | elg | then I'd be able to tell who doesn't bathe every day |
| 17:56.09 | elg | let it grow! |
| 17:56.36 | elg | you have to live up to the title "guru" after all |
| 17:57.37 | jsmith | Naw, gotta shave it off before Scouts this evening... wouldn't wanna give the scouts a bad example |
| 17:58.14 | emcnabb | jsmith: that's what happens with me, but with seminary instead |
| 17:58.40 | jsmith | We should all have a beard-growing contest though |
| 17:58.42 | levi | Because wearing facial hair sets a bad example? |
| 17:58.50 | emcnabb | only 19 more days of getting up at 5am! |
| 17:58.52 | jsmith | levi: Not my words... |
| 17:59.03 | jsmith | levi: But yes, there are people who think that |
| 17:59.49 | goozbach | the funny thing is, I can't grow anything BUT a goatee |
| 18:00.17 | levi | jsmith: I shaved my goatee off for my brief stint as EQ Pres in my singles ward. I wouldn't do so again, though. |
| 18:00.27 | levi | Unless I had other reasons to shave it off. |
| 18:00.42 | jsmith | levi: My wife hates goats :-( |
| 18:01.07 | levi | My wife kinda liked mine (well, she was my girlfriend at the time) but liked me better without it. |
| 18:01.19 | levi | So, it hasn't come back. |
| 18:01.51 | elg | a contest would be no fair. sjansen would win |
| 18:02.03 | elg | or maybe sargun |
| 18:03.00 | levi | I have hairs that are individually rather thick, but they grow relatively sparsely even in my sideburns. |
| 18:04.31 | jsmith | levi: I have hairs the size of tree trunks, and they grow so thick you can use my 5 o'clock shadow as sandpaper |
| 18:06.23 | elg | jsmith: that's one of the reasons my wife likes my beard. she never runs the risk of kissing sandpaper |
| 18:06.39 | elg | beards are much softer than even my modest stubble |
| 18:06.58 | jsmith | Yeah, but my wife doesn't have the patience to wait for it to become a beard |
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| 18:09.26 | levi | I have a shadow even when my hair is cut as close as I can manage. The dark, thick hairs just show through my skin. |
| 18:11.38 | jsmith | My biggest problems is that I have rainbow beard... black hairs and white hairs and red hairs and five different shades of brown |
| 18:12.37 | levi | Arg. My 'Perpetual Calendar' watch screwed up the date. It's not supposed to do that. |
| 18:13.08 | elg | jsmith: sounds creative |
| 18:13.18 | elg | now you just have to dress to match your beard |
| 18:13.25 | levi | It's also acting strangely... the second hand waits two seconds, then jumps two seconds forward. |
| 18:13.29 | jsmith | elg: Never! |
| 18:13.53 | elg | levi: it's the end of the world! |
| 18:14.01 | elg | jsmith: well, when you're a bit older it will go gray |
| 18:14.06 | elg | then you can wear it with pride |
| 18:14.32 | findlay | jsmith: I have many colors too, though not quite so many as that |
| 18:14.40 | elg | i was explaining the other day to my wife how beards are almost always lighter in color (and go grey sooner) than the hair on top |
| 18:14.45 | elg | she wasn't sure whether to believe me |
| 18:14.50 | elg | I used redbeard2 as an example |
| 18:15.00 | elg | (since red is technically a lighter color than light brown) |
| 18:15.56 | jsmith | elg: Mine is much darker than the hair on top |
| 18:16.39 | elg | freak1 |
| 18:19.05 | bonez39 | anyone here use enlightenment/E17 as window manager? |
| 18:19.34 | levi | Ahh, the second hand weird behavior is a low battery sign. |
| 18:19.44 | findlay | fancy watch |
| 18:26.06 | jsmith | bonez39: No, I haven't touched enlightenment since E16 came out |
| 18:26.42 | jsmith | Back in the good ol' day, I'd recompile E from scratch every morning |
| 18:26.54 | jsmith | Man, I'm glad I'm not so crazy now |
| 18:28.02 | levi | findlay: Yeah, it was a gift. |
| 18:28.28 | findlay | Now that I've listened to almost his complete extant works I am qualified to say that Mozart was a genius |
| 18:28.53 | graphyx | findlay: a lot of people have said as much without the effort. |
| 18:29.05 | findlay | graphyx: but now I'm qualified! |
| 18:29.34 | graphyx | Are you certified? |
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| 18:29.45 | graphyx | are you quantified? |
| 18:30.12 | findlay | I get my authority from the music |
| 18:34.27 | bonez39 | jsmith, oh, reason I asked, is I saw a comparison this morning, of the various wm's and it was at the top of the list for speed, performance..and at using minimal overhead..but are you saying your experience with it... was a bit negative? |
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| 18:47.43 | elg | E is for ricers |
| 18:47.50 | elg | but you might like it |
| 18:51.38 | Tene | bonez39: I use e17 about half the time. I use Gnome the other half. |
| 18:51.44 | Tene | I'm using e right now, though! |
| 18:52.17 | findlay | e! |
| 18:52.31 | findlay | endarkenment! |
| 18:53.00 | Tene | bonez39: I can confirm that, yes, it performs excellently using very little overhead. |
| 18:57.27 | redbeard2 | elg: my wife agrees with you, on the beard. |
| 18:59.34 | Tene | bonez39: did you have any specific questions? |
| 19:02.30 | *** topic/#utah by atoponce -> The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://plug.org/irc | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | http://halls.lug-nut.com/jayce/2007/04/24/Brynn_is_Born | What part of the internet are you from? | Congrats to maquis on getting married! |
| 19:03.21 | elg | where's the pics? |
| 19:03.34 | sjansen | llegou la comida! |
| 19:04.25 | *** join/#utah nick125- (n=ndevito@m320e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 19:04.47 | nick125- | afternoon all |
| 19:06.42 | nick125- | I wish I could get on jamendo :/ |
| 19:06.56 | graphyx | maquis is married? Is there proof? |
| 19:08.09 | nick125- | I wish I had a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter for my treo |
| 19:09.05 | graphyx | that isn't enough |
| 19:10.10 | graphyx | thesuperbigfrog???? |
| 19:10.19 | graphyx | -chat about the superbigfrog |
| 19:10.20 | brac | the superbigfrog |
| 19:10.28 | maquis | he isn't around here a lot |
| 19:10.34 | graphyx | -chat about thesuperbigfrog |
| 19:10.35 | brac | thesuperbigfrog is |
| 19:10.35 | maquis | he was previously maquis-fiance |
| 19:10.47 | Keighvin | It's this frog. And he's super big. |
| 19:11.10 | graphyx | oh, so before he married you he chose a nick other that maquis-fiance? |
| 19:11.22 | graphyx | Well that was a good gesture. |
| 19:11.28 | maquis | yeah |
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| 19:20.26 | levi | maquis: When was the wedding? |
| 19:22.54 | elg | and where are the pics? :) |
| 19:23.18 | levi | And where was my invitation?! ;) |
| 19:24.00 | vontrapp | how do you add a primary key to a table after it's created? (mysql) |
| 19:24.20 | vontrapp | and where is my cake? |
| 19:24.43 | maquis | last saturday |
| 19:24.54 | maquis | my aunt might still have cake |
| 19:25.00 | levi | maquis: Congratulations. :) |
| 19:25.37 | maquis | levi: thanks |
| 19:26.34 | vontrapp | jusk kidding about tje cake |
| 19:26.46 | vontrapp | bah |
| 19:27.06 | graphyx | vontrapp: You are in dvorak, aren't you? |
| 19:27.17 | vontrapp | i guess it's a good sign i'm having a a harg time going back to qwerty |
| 19:27.20 | Keighvin | vontrap: Do you need to add the column as well, or just the indexing? |
| 19:27.36 | graphyx | vontrapp: why are you going back? |
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| 19:27.41 | vontrapp | different computer |
| 19:28.04 | graphyx | You are going back or just dealing with it until you get back to your computer? |
| 19:28.22 | vontrapp | well i could do it with adding the column, if that's easier |
| 19:28.25 | Keighvin | I can't for the life of me program in Dvorak - I don't want to try remapping VIM either. So I use dvorak conversationally (for email, IRC, prose, etc.) and Qwerty for shell and dev stuff. |
| 19:28.30 | vontrapp | dealing |
| 19:29.04 | vontrapp | Keighvin: i map the dvorak keys to qwerty keys in normal mode |
| 19:29.14 | vontrapp | works well for movement |
| 19:29.18 | vontrapp | ald the other things |
| 19:29.23 | vontrapp | only a few quirks |
| 19:29.48 | elg | quirks are unacceptable |
| 19:29.48 | graphyx | elg suggested that that not be done |
| 19:29.54 | vontrapp | i just wish i could find a solution for bash vim mode |
| 19:29.56 | graphyx | speaking of the devil. |
| 19:29.58 | elg | amcnabb did |
| 19:30.03 | elg | i just parroted it |
| 19:30.08 | elg | because it sounds good to me |
| 19:30.10 | Keighvin | vontrapp: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/alter-table.html |
| 19:30.23 | elg | if I were to really learn dvorak I'd do it 100% even in vim |
| 19:30.40 | elg | ~celebrate |
| 19:30.42 | ibot | ACTION lights off 3 tons of fireworks |
| 19:30.45 | Keighvin | ALTER TABLE vontrapps_screwed_up_table ADD PRIMARY KEY (the_column_which_should_have_been_a_primary_key,...) |
| 19:30.53 | elg | my prof finally posted the lab |
| 19:31.08 | elg | a page and a half in latex. that's like 2 words a day |
| 19:31.35 | Keighvin | elg: Reminds me of a line from Pride & Prejudice: "I never learned the piano forte myself, but if I had I would have been a true proficient." (Lady Catherine de Bourg) |
| 19:32.18 | levi | I would simply not learn Dvorak. |
| 19:32.38 | Keighvin | So do it already. |
| 19:33.00 | sjansen | ~remap Keighvin |
| 19:33.03 | Keighvin | Wow, lookitim go! |
| 19:33.33 | levi | Pretty impressive, eh? |
| 19:33.48 | Keighvin | I'm amazed at how fast it became integral to the muscle memory. |
| 19:36.52 | findlay | when I get my laptop I'm going to have a cron job scramble the keymap every night, so I have to relearn the keys |
| 19:37.16 | findlay | after a year of that I will be such a genius that you would be afraid to associate with me |
| 19:38.08 | Keighvin | When you finally log back on, that is. |
| 19:38.44 | Keighvin | "D.f! Nrrtcy m.! C-m a up.atcbi i.bcgo!!" -> findlay circa 2008 |
| 19:39.34 | herlo | sjansen: http://vonnegut.cultish.org/archives/ |
| 19:39.41 | herlo | sjansen: thought you might be interested... |
| 19:42.05 | elg | levi: this might be a fun erlang project, if you're looking for one |
| 19:42.12 | elg | http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/cows.pdf |
| 19:44.34 | levi | Aha, it is indeed time-driven. :) |
| 19:46.50 | levi | It looks like it involves a lot of math I don't know, though. |
| 19:48.08 | elg | i could help you with the math (i.e. give you the algorithm/equations to generate the random variables) |
| 19:48.27 | herlo | http://tinyurl.com/39vprt |
| 19:48.31 | elg | the math isn't overly easy, but the algorithm and equations are easy enough |
| 19:48.34 | herlo | I want that on my car |
| 19:49.19 | lukfugl | lol |
| 19:50.01 | herlo | lukfugl: did you notice the people in wheelchairs?! |
| 19:50.10 | elg | basically, at each step each cow moves in an x and y direction with normal distributions |
| 19:50.14 | lukfugl | yeah |
| 19:50.25 | elg | he needs to work on his wheelchair stats |
| 19:51.00 | herlo | for sure |
| 19:51.26 | lukfugl | I like to think those marks stand for the number of rides he's given |
| 19:51.32 | lukfugl | he likes to give policemen rides |
| 19:51.53 | elg | on the hood |
| 19:52.01 | lukfugl | and if he had a truck, the "cars" tally would be a lot higher |
| 19:52.26 | elg | notice his prejudice against brick ovens |
| 19:53.18 | lukfugl | brick ovens? |
| 19:53.31 | elg | he never gives rides to brick ovens |
| 19:53.34 | lukfugl | what's the second symbol from the top supposed to be? shepherds? |
| 19:53.39 | elg | hikers |
| 20:00.11 | levi | elg: So, did you finish your version of it to turn in? |
| 20:00.36 | elg | no, working on it now (well, at least my subconscious is) |
| 20:00.55 | elg | i did 90% in ruby the other day (the other 10% I didn't know the details of), in about 2 hours |
| 20:01.03 | elg | including figuring out the brownian motion equations |
| 20:01.29 | elg | i'm going on probably 10 hours of trying to figure out simulink now |
| 20:01.55 | elg | turns out it's not due until a week from friday |
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| 21:26.07 | Keighvin | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 21:26.07 | ibot | crushes Jayce^ with a full height scsi disk |
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| 21:29.06 | bonez39 | is it possible to read gmail items from mutt? |
| 21:29.22 | Tene | bonez39: kind of. gmail has POP3 access. |
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| 21:33.04 | bonez39 | Tene, I have opened mutt, hit 'c' then pop://mail.gmail.com , but it always returns an error, never asks for password ... |
| 21:33.34 | Tene | Hmm. There's a post on http://openclue.org/ut/ about basic mutt use. |
| 21:33.52 | bonez39 | thanks |
| 21:34.34 | Tene | bonez39: did you still have questions about e17? |
| 21:34.53 | bonez39 | Tene, no, not for now....sticking for the moment with fluxbox |
| 21:35.09 | Tene | kk |
| 21:35.25 | Tene | Let me know if that post on mutt doesn't help you. |
| 21:39.58 | bonez39 | that worked...very cool, thanks |
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| 21:45.37 | nick125_lappy | Hahahahahahahah, this is so funny. Some judge in Washington D.C. is suing a dry cleaning place for $67 million dollars for losing his $800 (or so he says) trousers |
| 21:46.22 | Tene | odd |
| 21:47.28 | nick125_lappy | He's suing them for 10 years of free car rentals so he can take his dry cleaning somewhere else.. |
| 21:48.26 | bonez39 | he won't win...only the lawyers will win |
| 21:49.29 | nick125_lappy | He'd probably only get the value of the trousers. |
| 21:50.04 | Tene | His claim for that implies that he has a Right To Dry Cleaning, which is ridiculous. |
| 21:50.31 | nick125_lappy | None of this "emotional distress" or "pain and suffering" (or whatever hes claiming) BS. All because he couldn't wear his favorite trousers to his first day on the bench. |
| 21:57.58 | levi | What dry cleaning place is going to have $67 million in assets, anyway? |
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| 22:09.53 | sjansen | http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/05/02/silly-season |
| 22:15.53 | elg | -lart lukfugl |
| 22:16.06 | lukfugl | -lart elg |
| 22:16.11 | lukfugl | what? |
| 22:19.41 | elg | sjansen's link tells you what to think about that silver thing |
| 22:20.28 | levi | Ow, Phil Windley's latest link is... incredibly math-geeky. |
| 22:20.37 | lukfugl | ooh, math geeky. link? |
| 22:20.59 | levi | http://www.windley.com/archives/2007/05/finite_simple_group_of_order_two.shtml |
| 22:21.42 | levi | An a capella group singing a song called A Finite Simple Group (of Order Two) |
| 22:22.02 | levi | Full of really, really bad math puns. |
| 22:22.24 | levi | And people laughing at them. It's a recording from a live performance. |
| 22:25.15 | elg | I have N cows, right? So I should have N random variable generators. the best way I've found so far is to have simulink's random variable generator spit out a matrix of n random numbers |
| 22:25.38 | elg | but it just occurred to me that they are not n random variables, but n instances of 1 random variable |
| 22:25.48 | levi | Heh. |
| 22:25.54 | elg | i.e. n random numbers generated sequentially from the same seed |
| 22:26.10 | elg | probably would work fairly well, but it's not technically correct |
| 22:27.00 | levi | So they all need to have separately-seeded random number generators? |
| 22:27.20 | elg | ah, no, I _can_ stuff the seeds with a little matlab magic |
| 22:27.28 | sjansen | elg: Shoot the cows. Problem solved. |
| 22:27.31 | elg | *phew*, but I still can't programmatically set N |
| 22:27.40 | elg | I have to "hardcode" the parameter |
| 22:27.54 | lukfugl | ah, already seen it |
| 22:28.07 | lukfugl | (the phil windley link) |
| 22:28.35 | herlo | lukfugl: me too, a couple months back, I "stumbleupon"'d it |
| 22:28.44 | tensai | wow. clearly I'm not as math geeky as others |
| 22:30.01 | sjansen | "Why aren't your cows moving?" "I realized the problem could be vastly simplified by applying Canaboidal Chong grouping. (They're on weed.)" |
| 22:30.05 | herlo | I didn't think anyone would really enjoy that as much as I did. Apparently, others got it more than I did... |
| 22:31.30 | lukfugl | sjansen: lol |
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| 23:05.46 | calvarez | maquis, congratz! |
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| 23:15.21 | synico | anyone use serverpronto? |
| 23:19.09 | Tene | Nobody that survived to tall the tale, synico. |
| 23:19.21 | synico | awh lame |
| 23:22.35 | maquis | calvarez: thanks |
| 23:22.41 | beandog | synico: yah |
| 23:22.51 | synico | beandog, is it currently down for you? |
| 23:22.56 | beandog | yah |
| 23:23.15 | beandog | somebody probably tripped over a cable |
| 23:23.20 | beandog | happens to me at home all the time. |
| 23:23.24 | synico | hah |
| 23:23.25 | beandog | :) |
| 23:23.30 | synico | well... at least it's not just me then. |
| 23:23.39 | beandog | nopies |
| 23:24.19 | synico | I have all kinds of stuff running on mine... jabber server, irc server, and a bunch of websites. |
| 23:24.26 | synico | people are having seizures |
| 23:24.33 | beandog | oh, that sucks |
| 23:24.38 | beandog | this seems to be pretty common |
| 23:24.42 | beandog | Im not running anything really critical |
| 23:24.56 | synico | huh... I've been using them for about a year and a half and haven't ever had this problem |
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| 23:26.05 | synico | also a bunch of people shelling in to use irssi. IRC withdrawals for everyone! |
| 23:27.24 | beandog | heh |
| 23:30.56 | findlay | the www monsters haven't gotten to my irssi server |
| 23:33.53 | nick125_lappy | Hmm...I'm debating on writing an irssi script that will automagically create a MPD playlist for my station |
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| 23:35.41 | synic | yay. |
| 23:36.05 | findlay | synic has been victorious against the www monsters |
| 23:37.22 | nick125_lappy | ugh, not an irssi script, a python script |
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