| 00:15.17 | lukfugl_shamed | rsimpkins: I might be able to help out with that plug.org enhancement next week if there are no other takers |
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| 02:04.37 | elg | -chat |
| 02:04.38 | brac | poor thing was nice to me now :P |
| 02:09.55 | tensai | ~punish elg |
| 02:10.10 | ibot | ACTION forces elg to install and use Windows |
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| 02:27.50 | elg | i might go watch scotty get beamed into space tomorrow |
| 02:31.26 | tensai | elg: I was going to ask, how did the vote on that space port turn out? |
| 02:32.40 | elg | yes, by a small margin |
| 02:37.26 | elg | not a really small margin, like 500 out of 5000 votes or something |
| 02:40.09 | elg | levi_home: does D have any special automatic interaction with C/C++ APIs ability? |
| 02:41.14 | elg | guess I won't go. the public has to be back too far, I'd need binoculars |
| 02:41.21 | elg | better to just watch a newscast after the fact |
| 02:44.49 | levi_home | elg: I can't remember. |
| 02:51.02 | elg | looks like it can do C with a little work (doctor up the .h file) but not C++ |
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| 03:01.47 | tensai | yookoso irasshai! |
| 03:02.56 | levi_home | ack! foo! |
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| 03:04.32 | levi_home | elg: Nothing really links well with C++ |
| 03:04.40 | elg | ya |
| 03:04.43 | levi_home | elg: It doesn't play well with others. |
| 03:04.50 | levi_home | Name mangling is unfriendly. |
| 03:05.07 | elg | -urls |
| 03:05.07 | brac | [2007/04/27 15:08:45] <levi> http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/valkyrie.shtml |
| 03:05.07 | brac | [2007/04/27 14:13:35] <lukfugl_shamed> http://boldts.net/Sudoku/N0/ |
| 03:05.07 | brac | [2007/04/27 13:52:19] <lukfugl> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42843000/gif/_42843291_maths_diagram02_416.gif |
| 03:05.07 | brac | [2007/04/27 13:50:58] <lukfugl> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42842000/gif/_42842559_maths_diagram_416.gif |
| 03:13.44 | levi_home | elg: What made you look at D? |
| 03:14.41 | elg | this is for a project i might tackle this summer |
| 03:15.01 | elg | using ODE (C++, but with a C API) and OSG (full-blown STL C++ in all its "glory") |
| 03:15.20 | elg | both of those have ruby bindings but they're half baked to say the least |
| 03:16.02 | elg | so I was thinking, what language might I want to do it in that's not quite C++ |
| 03:25.53 | levi_home | Hmm. Well, unless you want to create C wrappers around the API functions, you're pretty much stuck with C++. |
| 03:26.24 | levi_home | Once you create C wrappers, you can use the FFI of just about any nice language. |
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| 04:56.08 | levi_home | http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_5762668 |
| 04:57.12 | rsimpkins | So does anyone here use a blackberry? |
| 04:57.27 | levi_home | A crackberry? No. ;) |
| 04:57.50 | rsimpkins | hehe |
| 04:58.09 | rsimpkins | I've never carried a 'smart phone' in my life, and got an opportunity to. |
| 04:58.16 | rsimpkins | So I took it. |
| 04:58.48 | levi_home | I did my time with a treo. :) |
| 04:59.03 | levi_home | More forehead-smacking of a different kind: http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2007/04/true_pathology_a_multilingual.php |
| 04:59.05 | brac | [Good Math, Bad Math : True Pathology: A Multilingual Quine] |
| 05:01.15 | levi_home | I enjoyed the treo, but it was way too much money for its utility to me. |
| 05:01.31 | levi_home | I'm much better served with a cheap phone and pay-as-you-go plans. |
| 05:03.11 | rsimpkins | levi: I've always thought the same thing, but I don't have to pay for this. |
| 05:03.31 | rsimpkins | levi_home: so I'm not out much giving it a shot. |
| 05:04.49 | levi_home | Well, if I didn't have to pay for the service for mine, it'd still be active. :) |
| 05:05.10 | levi_home | I still have it, but it's relegated to alarm duty. The phone service is shut off. |
| 05:06.05 | rsimpkins | I'm pleased with the device so far: http://www.blackberry8800series.com/ |
| 05:07.15 | levi_home | Looks slick. :) |
| 05:07.27 | rsimpkins | levi_home: I found a free ssh and irc client for it too. |
| 05:07.35 | levi_home | Nice. |
| 05:07.58 | rsimpkins | And it supports multiple e-mail addresses, which is apparently the first bb phone to do that. |
| 05:08.10 | rsimpkins | Some things in the service seem SO backwards to me. |
| 05:08.20 | rsimpkins | I'm like - IT solved this 10 years ago - wth? |
| 05:08.41 | rsimpkins | But they are mostly livable. |
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| 05:18.50 | nick125_lappy | ouch. My back hurts. I've been helping my friend move, and it's sure a pain. |
| 05:28.29 | levi_home | Moving sucks. |
| 05:31.53 | nick125_lappy | Yeah. But least he's moving into a bigger house, and he's finally getting rid of comcast (yay). |
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| 05:41.16 | rsimpkins_bb | Hi all. |
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| 05:47.50 | nick125_lappy | Where in the world is my cdrom drive? It shows up in dmesg, but, there isn't a /dev/ entry for either hda or cdrom |
| 05:48.11 | nick125_lappy | Huh, it just now magically appeared |
| 05:48.23 | nick125_lappy | Why couldn't it have appeared when I was trying to burn a cd earlier today |
| 05:51.29 | elg | levi_home: what pay-as-you-go service do you use? cricket? |
| 05:57.53 | levi_home | elg: T-Mobile to-go |
| 05:58.21 | elg | what's the rate? monthly cost? (in ballpark) |
| 05:58.33 | levi_home | elg: Once you've spent $100 total on minutes, all subsequent minutes last for a year. |
| 05:59.03 | levi_home | I talk so infrequently, $15 or so can last me several months. |
| 05:59.22 | elg | so you buy $100 initially? |
| 05:59.31 | levi_home | The price varies based on how many minutes you buy and how much you've spent so far. |
| 06:00.03 | levi_home | I didn't; I just bought minutes in chunks when I needed them. |
| 06:00.17 | levi_home | But it's more cost-effective to pay $100 up front for minutes. |
| 06:02.05 | levi_home | The minutes that last a whole year are wonderful for me, though. Having them expire after a month or two if you didn't buy more was annoying. |
| 06:03.13 | levi_home | Anyway, the minutes are fairly expensive when you compare them with a regular plan, but I wasted so many of those that this ends up being waaaaay cheaper for me. |
| 06:03.14 | elg | might have to look at that |
| 06:03.29 | elg | i'd use like 10 minutes a month |
| 06:03.47 | levi_home | Yeah, this way would work great for you, then. |
| 06:04.03 | elg | we just got a handmedown phone to replace my wife's handmedowner phone, so now we have one functional phone and one not-quite-functional-but-can-be-used-to-make-calls phoen |
| 06:04.27 | elg | are t-mobile to t-mobile calls free still? |
| 06:04.48 | levi_home | I'm not sure about that, but I doubt it. |
| 06:04.59 | elg | she's on her parent's family plan, and we either pay $10/mo or nothing |
| 06:05.24 | levi_home | $10/mo isn't terrible. |
| 06:05.27 | elg | I once in a great while find I wouldn't mind having a phone handy, and since we've got an extra if there's a pay-as-you-go it might be worth looking at |
| 06:05.38 | levi_home | I was paying $50/mo to Sprint for my treo. |
| 06:06.09 | levi_home | So not worth it for my usage pattern. |
| 06:06.18 | elg | yeah. we've almost canceled it before but they talk her into it again. I think the last time they might have said "oh we'll just pay for it". Like Migs' saga but it's just that her family can't imagine life without cell phones and think she's safer with one :) |
| 06:06.19 | levi_home | Especially after I got married. :) |
| 06:07.11 | levi_home | They're handy, but not $50/mo handy. |
| 06:07.18 | elg | heavens no |
| 06:07.38 | levi_home | No one ever calls me except my wife, anyway. |
| 06:07.53 | levi_home | And that's only on rare occasions. |
| 06:08.15 | levi_home | Anyway, I'm off to sleep. |
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| 06:27.22 | Sargun | They are great tracking devices (cell phones) |
| 06:41.56 | harleypig | ? |
| 06:54.30 | harleypig | oopma loompa |
| 06:54.32 | harleypig | doopity doo |
| 06:57.21 | herlo | harleypig: you are a silly man |
| 06:59.21 | harleypig | I am a slap happy man! |
| 06:59.31 | harleypig | I've had 3 hours sleep in the last 2 days. |
| 06:59.44 | harleypig | I'm giddy as a school girl. |
| 07:10.07 | herlo | harleypig: feels good doesn't it? |
| 07:11.47 | harleypig | In a surrealistic knd of way |
| 07:13.30 | herlo | harleypig: for sure. Why are you up so late ? |
| 07:13.42 | herlo | or rather so much |
| 07:13.58 | harleypig | I've reached the point where I'm so tired I can't get to sleep. |
| 07:14.16 | harleypig | I got to this point because of that occasional confluence of events that happens in a family with lots of children. |
| 07:14.54 | harleypig | They (unknowingly) conspired to keep me up with individual problems. |
| 07:14.54 | herlo | harleypig: understood. I had 3 bros and 2 sis's when I grew up... |
| 07:15.06 | harleypig | one child came in at midnight wiht nightmares, by the time I got him down another came in feeling sick to their stomach ... it just kept going. |
| 07:15.11 | harleypig | heh |
| 07:15.16 | harleypig | yeah, then you know how that can happen. |
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| 07:19.57 | harleypig | Where's SpecialJ? |
| 07:20.53 | SpecialK | good question |
| 07:21.13 | harleypig | He's out flashy-thingying people? |
| 07:21.26 | SpecialK | pretty much |
| 07:21.40 | harleypig | Sorry ... I'm running on 3 hours sleep in the last 48 ... ignore me ... I'm being a giddiot tonight. |
| 07:21.47 | SpecialK | I'm wondering what to get maquis and co. for their wedding tomorrow |
| 07:21.56 | harleypig | (that's giddy idiot) |
| 07:22.03 | SpecialK | nice |
| 07:22.16 | harleypig | A gift certificate to ThinkGeek? |
| 07:22.47 | SpecialK | Not sure how I'd get that by noon |
| 07:23.49 | harleypig | ? Just print out the confirmation page. |
| 07:23.51 | harleypig | But then ... I'm austere by nature. |
| 07:23.54 | harleypig | Or so I've been told. |
| 07:24.31 | harleypig | err ... I mean ... austere to a fault. |
| 07:24.35 | harleypig | I'm austere by nature. |
| 07:24.59 | harleypig | not to be confused with autistic, even though I may appear to be on occasion |
| 07:25.27 | harleypig | anyway ... according to their website they're only delivered via email anywa. |
| 07:28.18 | harleypig | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/93a6/ |
| 07:28.19 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: USB Powered shaver] |
| 07:28.21 | harleypig | There ya go ... |
| 07:28.24 | herlo | congrats to maquis and co |
| 07:28.53 | harleypig | And it's only $25! |
| 07:29.50 | herlo | harleypig: what praytell are they going to shave? methinks that harleypig isn't the only one who's crazy here... |
| 07:30.21 | harleypig | umm ... that bikini line might need a quick touchup right before a big meeting. |
| 07:30.42 | harleypig | She's in Seattle right? How about this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/9260/ |
| 07:30.44 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: LED Umbrella] |
| 07:30.56 | herlo | something like that... |
| 07:31.37 | harleypig | I am soooo tempted: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/8928/ |
| 07:31.39 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: ThinkGeek Bluetooth Retro Handset] |
| 07:31.54 | harleypig | BTW, SpecialK, I blame you for this jaunt into sidetrack land. |
| 07:32.43 | herlo | harleypig: do you blame me for something? |
| 07:33.01 | harleypig | Not at the moment. Give it time. |
| 07:33.03 | harleypig | :> |
| 07:34.19 | herlo | okay, let me know... :) |
| 07:34.39 | harleypig | With a brick through your front window? |
| 07:34.50 | harleypig | Sorry ... I am *really* slap happy now ... |
| 07:34.59 | harleypig | I've got tangents on my tangents. |
| 07:35.18 | harleypig | My mind is like that stupid bat that gets stuck in your room, y'know? |
| 07:36.06 | harleypig | well, ok ... that's the norm anyway ... |
| 07:36.07 | harleypig | but it's like that bat just snorted a couple lines |
| 07:36.20 | harleypig | wow ... what a mental image |
| 07:36.43 | herlo | heh |
| 07:37.02 | harleypig | I mean ... how would it even roll up the dollar bill? |
| 07:37.14 | herlo | what? a bat with a rolled up dollar bill? that'd be really funny... |
| 07:37.22 | tensai | you freaks need to go to sleep. what kind of nut is awake at this hour? |
| 07:37.28 | herlo | geez, the thoughts... |
| 07:37.36 | harleypig | A hairy nut! |
| 07:37.52 | harleypig | err ... |
| 07:37.52 | harleypig | umm ... |
| 07:37.52 | tensai | ~lart harleypig |
| 07:37.52 | ibot | blasts harleypig to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 07:38.12 | harleypig | what's a kame ... a kamehamfddjfkja;s wave? |
| 07:38.27 | tensai | from dragon ball |
| 07:38.40 | tensai | or was it from street fighter? |
| 07:39.03 | harleypig | Wait ... wasn't he a hawaiin dude? |
| 07:39.29 | harleypig | Google define is my friend. |
| 07:39.33 | tensai | yes, there was a line of king kamehamehas |
| 07:39.40 | tensai | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamehameha_%28Dragon_Ball%29#Kamehameha |
| 07:39.52 | harleypig | He was. I just had this image of this big hawaiiin dude wvaving and the shock wve knocking me on my butt. |
| 07:40.07 | harleypig | oh ... it's a butterfly too. |
| 07:40.50 | harleypig | See ... this isn't even a tangent ... it's not even a ricochet ... it's just in completely different ballpark! |
| 07:42.29 | herlo | I am currently downloading the latest Fedora 7 DVD, test 4 |
| 07:44.37 | herlo | came out yesterday |
| 07:44.44 | harleypig | I wish God would release the code for the universe ... I wanna hack the karma module. |
| 07:48.42 | herlo | harleypig: for sure |
| 07:49.00 | tensai | yeah that's just what we need, universe mods from harleypig. |
| 07:49.05 | tensai | use Leather::Butt::Thong; |
| 07:49.42 | harleypig | Imagine how much fun that'd be! |
| 07:51.03 | harleypig | use MentalImage::ScratchYerEyesOut::Random |
| 07:51.06 | herlo | ewwww, grrrrooooooosssss!!!! |
| 08:26.12 | harleypig | herlo, that meeting tomorrow ... is it in #utos? |
| 08:26.33 | harleypig | or face to face? |
| 08:42.35 | herlo | harleypig: in #utos |
| 08:42.40 | herlo | didn't I say that? |
| 08:44.36 | harleypig | In your lsat email? |
| 08:44.46 | harleypig | No, it didn't. |
| 08:45.00 | herlo | yeah, I just looked. I missed that. Just sent another email... |
| 08:45.14 | harleypig | OTOH, weren't most meetings in irc anyway, so wouldn't it be assumed? |
| 08:47.13 | herlo | yeah probably |
| 08:47.23 | herlo | I hope to have more meetings in person this way though... |
| 08:47.32 | herlo | and I can attend... |
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| 14:17.43 | elg | -chat |
| 14:17.44 | brac | nice thx |
| 15:08.59 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 15:11.01 | herlo | Jayce^: ping |
| 15:11.07 | herlo | Jayce^: ping #utos |
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| 17:52.57 | mheath | <levi> Lone_Wanderer: You're going to pull an mheath on us, eh? |
| 17:53.00 | mheath | What is that about? |
| 18:03.40 | bonez39 | if I want to find all instance of the string 'ldap' in a chat log,, would 'grep -irl ldap *' search the list correctly? |
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| 18:15.29 | mheath | perhaps something a bit more reliable than ebay... |
| 18:15.30 | mheath | hmmm. |
| 18:16.06 | elg | a flea market then |
| 18:18.35 | mheath | hhm... www.sub300.com |
| 18:18.39 | mheath | found that. Looks nice. |
| 18:18.44 | mheath | Linux too |
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| 18:55.16 | elg | levi_home: is there some "D for C/C++ programmers" document that gets one up and running quickly? |
| 19:00.44 | elg | and/or a reference manual? |
| 19:10.53 | bonez39 | tensai, there are severl files, in one folder |
| 19:10.56 | bonez39 | several |
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| 22:01.16 | goozbach | maquis: i know you arent reading this right now but congrats! |
| 22:03.52 | levi_home | elg: There should be a lot of information like that on the D web site. There are also a couple of wikis with examples. |
| 22:04.04 | levi_home | elg: Documentation was a problem for me, though, when I used it. |
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| 22:51.23 | elg | -lart jsmith-dinner |
| 22:52.15 | jsmith-dinner | elg: What, you've never heard of "Don't shoot the messenger"? |
| 22:52.48 | elg | you're a messenger? |
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