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| 00:21.16 | sjansen | Tene: You work for Iodynamics? |
| 00:21.16 | Tene | sjansen: yes, why? |
| 00:21.16 | sjansen | Just saw your LinkedIn profile. That's cool. |
| 00:21.17 | sjansen | fozzmoo++ |
| 00:21.17 | Tene | ~fozzmoo++ |
| 00:22.44 | sjansen | I wonder if pmcnabb is ashamed to be related to amcnabb, or amcnabb is ashamed to be related to pmcnabb, or bother are afraid of being linked with emcnabb |
| 00:40.06 | mheath | Man. Electronics test tomorrow. |
| 00:40.28 | mheath | For being the building blocks of something as neat as a computer, transistors are tediously boring. |
| 00:41.39 | mheath | I had an interesting idea for a stupid but interesting hack today: Wouldn't it be possible to implement a full turing complete programming language using only DVD video menus? |
| 00:44.48 | mheath | I've never looked into DVD menu technology. What computational abilities do they have? Do they even have a simple programming language built in? |
| 00:45.22 | mheath | Seems like even if they didn't, one could go as far as to use selected subtitles, language, angle, etc. as registers. |
| 00:46.25 | mheath | Sorry, really stupid idea. |
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| 01:14.16 | tuple | -lart Jayce^ |
| 01:20.31 | elg | you caused byu to lose some boring sport game? |
| 01:23.39 | Tene | http://losethegame.com/ |
| 01:29.39 | graphyx | rsimpkins: I am on it, can't say that I have gotten much use out of it yet. |
| 01:44.14 | rsimpkins | graphyx: ?? |
| 01:51.01 | graphyx | linkedin. |
| 01:51.31 | graphyx | mheath: what is going to get you discharged this time? |
| 01:53.02 | Sargun | mheath is back? |
| 01:53.15 | Sargun | mheath, how's being a nuke? |
| 01:53.23 | graphyx | look up like 9 lines. |
| 01:53.33 | graphyx | scroll back I mean |
| 01:54.01 | Sargun | oh |
| 01:55.13 | rsimpkins | graphyx: I'm not sure what the value of linkedin is either. So far I have decided it is a gigantic popularity contest. |
| 01:55.34 | graphyx | Well supposedly you can use it to post jobs and get referals for jobs. |
| 01:55.41 | graphyx | wanna link?L |
| 01:55.45 | graphyx | lol |
| 02:12.56 | tuple | -chat |
| 02:12.58 | brac | but he didn't seem to have things like gaming.. |
| 02:14.05 | Sargun | rsimpkins, Hey, how be your servers, and things? :-) |
| 02:31.14 | rsimpkins | Sargun: really good. How are things going with you? |
| 02:32.13 | rsimpkins | Anyone is welcome to connect to my network linked at ryan simpkins dot com |
| 02:32.52 | rsimpkins | -chat about something green |
| 02:32.53 | brac | something green |
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| 02:36.31 | Sargun | rsimpkins, VPN? |
| 02:36.33 | Sargun | Tunnel? |
| 02:36.37 | Sargun | rsimpkins, Do you have IPv6? |
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| 02:43.37 | bonez41 | is oocalc going by some new name now? I can't seem to open oocalc on my system |
| 02:44.12 | nick125_lappy | Doesn't seem like it |
| 02:44.24 | nick125_lappy | I'm running 2.2 here, and oocalc exists |
| 02:45.07 | bonez41 | 2.2...that's newer than mine... |
| 02:45.17 | bonez41 | weird...maybe I have to install it separately |
| 02:45.22 | bonez41 | but that seems clunky |
| 02:45.33 | nick125_lappy | Yeah, it does. |
| 02:46.07 | bonez41 | I check /usr/bin and I see ooffice, oowriter, ooimpress, oodraw..but no oocalc |
| 02:46.10 | rsimpkins | Sargun: VPN? Why do I need VPN? And IPv6? Why do I need that? |
| 02:46.40 | Sargun | Well |
| 02:47.03 | Sargun | rsimpkins might be running a private network for all of his satellite locations. |
| 02:47.08 | Sargun | IPv6 is nifty |
| 02:48.03 | bonez41 | is ipv6 next generation of net? |
| 02:48.17 | rsimpkins | bonez41: It is the next version of IPv4 |
| 02:48.33 | bonez41 | ok....stronger...more powerful...right? |
| 02:48.34 | rsimpkins | bonez41: Its adoption is going forward, just really slow. |
| 02:48.39 | rsimpkins | bonez41: no, not really. |
| 02:48.45 | bonez41 | ok... |
| 02:49.54 | rsimpkins | I think the wave of the future is the sub-space communicator. |
| 02:49.55 | Sargun | Oh, and multicast. |
| 02:49.59 | rsimpkins | I want one of those really bad. |
| 02:50.06 | rsimpkins | And warp drive. |
| 02:54.02 | Sargun | oh |
| 02:54.08 | Sargun | What about a nuclear engine? |
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| 02:55.15 | nick125_lappy | http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-automatic-cube-weapon-target < haha |
| 02:55.18 | brac | [TechEBlog » (Video) Automatic Cube Weapon Target] |
| 02:55.19 | nick125_lappy | I want one |
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| 03:19.21 | nick125_lappy | Hmm, I want to play with a new WM or something. |
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| 05:31.37 | levi_home | Anyone go to the Jeannette Wing lecture? |
| 05:37.21 | Sargun | What is the lowest cost hackable linux device? |
| 05:37.42 | levi_home | My Buffalo wireless router was $40. |
| 05:37.50 | levi_home | It runs OpenWRT. |
| 05:37.59 | Tene | Sargun: you can get an ARM processor for, like, $2 or something |
| 05:38.13 | Sargun | levi_home, I can get a Linux router for $30 |
| 05:38.42 | Sargun | Tene, Well, for a board |
| 05:40.19 | levi_home | Sargun: I don't care what you can get one for. |
| 05:41.08 | Sargun | er |
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| 05:43.34 | calvarez | h'llo |
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| 05:43.45 | Tene | go die in a hole |
| 05:43.55 | Tene | Hhhhh: talking to calvarez, not to you. |
| 05:44.10 | calvarez | hmm, calvarez and I are the same |
| 05:44.16 | calvarez | I mean, Hhhhh and I |
| 05:44.21 | calvarez | punk |
| 05:44.24 | Tene | oh, I didn't notice. |
| 05:44.29 | Tene | Why do you have two connections? |
| 05:44.37 | calvarez | want 2 nicks |
| 05:44.42 | calvarez | keep 'e, separated |
| 05:44.46 | calvarez | 'em* |
| 05:44.52 | Tene | what for? |
| 05:45.11 | calvarez | I use one identity for some purposes, the other one for others |
| 05:45.19 | Tene | Okay. |
| 05:45.26 | calvarez | Hhhhh is my trolling one' |
| 05:49.47 | levi_home | Heh. |
| 05:49.53 | levi_home | How goes the graphics research? |
| 05:52.42 | calvarez | pretty well |
| 05:52.54 | calvarez | my research is mainly in the context of augmented reality though |
| 05:53.17 | rsimpkins | This LinkedIn thing is a lot more popular than I thought it would be. |
| 05:53.40 | rsimpkins | 27 PLUGgers have already hooked in. |
| 05:57.59 | levi_home | Yup, I see you just approved my joining. |
| 05:58.06 | levi_home | I just barely created a profile. |
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| 11:40.31 | ioii | just curious - anyone here in this channel working for PGP Corporation in Draper/Utah ? :-) |
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| 13:00.57 | elg | rsimpkins: just a guess but there's probably a significant number like me: on linkedin against my better judgement and log on about once every 3 months, and figure "as long as I'm on this silly thing I might as well join the PLUG group they just made" |
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| 13:05.55 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 13:07.00 | elg | -roulette |
| 13:07.00 | brac | elg: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
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| 13:20.14 | ^Migs^ | omg, this is creepy: http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSKUA54859020070425?feedType=RSS |
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| 13:25.05 | ^Migs^ | whoa, another woot-off at woot.com |
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| 13:56.01 | elg | -chat |
| 13:56.03 | brac | I heard gustav mahlers 2nd symphony (resurrection) again today |
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| 14:08.53 | elg | is configuring xchat colors as much a pain in linux? |
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| 14:19.12 | ^Migs^ | does anyone know offhandedly of a command-line app that can strip silence from an mp3? |
| 14:19.23 | elg | sox |
| 14:19.27 | ^Migs^ | preferrably including regular line hisses |
| 14:19.45 | ^Migs^ | perfect, thanks |
| 14:20.35 | ^Migs^ | oh nice, sox has great features |
| 14:20.52 | elg | sox is awersome |
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| 14:29.15 | elg | so my wife got a new used cel phone. it does .mid and .mmf. She has t-mobile |
| 14:29.24 | graphyx | mmf? |
| 14:29.26 | elg | there are no decent ring tones, as usual |
| 14:29.28 | graphyx | not mp3? |
| 14:29.46 | graphyx | I put veggietales on my wifes from |
| 14:29.48 | elg | so I need to get one on there. assuming I can find/create a decent ringtone in mid or mmf format |
| 14:29.52 | elg | how do I get it on there? |
| 14:30.22 | graphyx | The razr just has a usb cable and mobile phone tools. |
| 14:30.36 | graphyx | Each phone is different. |
| 14:33.36 | elg | this is the phone: http://www.samsung.com/Products/MobilePhones/T_Mobile/SGH_X475LSATMB.asp |
| 14:33.39 | brac | [SAMSUNG's Digital World - T-Mobile | SGH-X475] |
| 14:33.44 | elg | no usb cable or anything like that |
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| 15:14.08 | findlay | hello |
| 15:15.02 | lukfugl | olleh |
| 15:16.01 | findlay | ~chat |
| 15:16.32 | findlay | -chat |
| 15:16.32 | brac | tina is imaginary |
| 15:16.33 | findlay | no way |
| 15:16.34 | findlay | -chat |
| 15:16.35 | brac | sounds like your wife just called me and get some motivation to work... |
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| 15:19.04 | lukfugl | oooh |
| 15:19.10 | lukfugl | brac talking smack |
| 15:20.51 | goozbach | -chat |
| 15:20.51 | brac | I was little... |
| 15:20.55 | goozbach | once? |
| 15:21.18 | findlay | -chat about smack |
| 15:21.19 | brac | smack went |
| 15:23.51 | ^Migs^ | http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/26/gere.arrest.reut/index.html |
| 15:23.53 | brac | [India court orders Gere's arrest - CNN.com] |
| 15:29.11 | goozbach | ~pineapple |
| 15:29.34 | ibot | ACTION dances around with a pineapple on her head, singing ~o pineapple pineapple pineapple ~o |
| 15:29.35 | findlay | pineapple! |
| 15:29.36 | graphyx | elg: http://cellphoneforums.net/ringtones/t222911-how-make-your-own-hi-fi-ringers.html |
| 15:29.41 | graphyx | he doesn't say what cable/prog to upload, but it does seem possible for that phone |
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| 15:31.18 | levi | Morning, folks. |
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| 15:32.24 | findlay | ~morning levi |
| 15:32.35 | ibot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping levi in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 15:32.40 | findlay | ~sjansen levi |
| 15:32.43 | ibot | ACTION tells levi good things about sjansen |
| 15:34.23 | graphyx | elg: http://www.3gcables.com/Data_Cables-USB_DATA_CABLE_SAMSUNG_X475_C207_E315_C225_P735.html |
| 15:34.26 | brac | [USB DATA CABLE SAMSUNG X475 C207 E315 C225 P735 - Data Cables by 3G Cables] |
| 15:34.35 | levi | Hrm, only 42G of 222G remaining. |
| 15:34.50 | Jayce^ | http://apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10238 now that's a geeky book |
| 15:34.52 | brac | [A P R E S S . C O M : Applied Mathematics for Database Professionals] |
| 15:35.09 | lukfugl | oooh |
| 15:35.13 | lukfugl | right up my alley |
| 15:36.04 | levi | Interesting. |
| 15:36.10 | Jayce^ | lukfugl, yeah, some drool going on over here too |
| 15:36.13 | levi | I suppose it will cover relational algebra/calculus? |
| 15:36.50 | levi | Don't you guys have your textbooks from your database classes? ;) |
| 15:37.22 | findlay | neat |
| 15:37.49 | Jayce^ | heh, my first database class used dbase :) and the one I took after the mission tried to have use use ACCESS!!! |
| 15:38.50 | lukfugl | levi: I didn't end up taking a db class for undergrad (aside from BYU's 235/236, but that really only treated it lightly). I plan to remedy that while in grad school |
| 15:39.00 | levi | Yow. |
| 15:39.10 | levi | Okay, well, you should get a book on that stuff, then. :) |
| 15:40.00 | lukfugl | yeah. like I said, we were exposed to relational algebra in 235 or 236, but it was only one unit of one semester |
| 15:40.00 | levi | Actually, 235/236 covered the relational algebra and calculus better than my database class at UVSC did. It's definitely one of the weaker classes here. |
| 15:40.33 | levi | lukfugl: Do you still have to write a prolog-like database query system? |
| 15:40.55 | lukfugl | levi: you should clarify "still" :) |
| 15:41.03 | lukfugl | I might have taken the class before you :) |
| 15:41.11 | lukfugl | didn't do that when I took it |
| 15:41.17 | levi | Hmm. When did you take it? |
| 15:41.24 | Jayce^ | lukfugl, similar to my experience |
| 15:41.28 | lukfugl | 235 was in '98, 236 was in 2000 or 2001 |
| 15:41.36 | lukfugl | (mission in between) |
| 15:41.57 | levi | You couldn't have taken them before me, because they didn't exist before I took them. :) |
| 15:42.07 | lukfugl | heh. ok |
| 15:42.19 | goozbach | NO FREAKING WAY!!! |
| 15:42.23 | goozbach | bzr++ |
| 15:42.27 | lukfugl | bzr? |
| 15:42.29 | goozbach | I love bzr |
| 15:42.32 | levi | bazaar? |
| 15:42.48 | goozbach | bazaar, the latest revision of the arch idea |
| 15:42.51 | goozbach | levi: yup |
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| 15:43.02 | levi | lukfugl: Writing the database system was the coolest part of it. They must have watered it down since I took it. |
| 15:43.21 | goozbach | if you do bzr move commands appropiately, then merging from the old source puts the changes into the appropiate files |
| 15:43.25 | goozbach | freaking awesome |
| 15:43.37 | levi | lukfugl: Except we had to write it in Java. But Java was kind of new and cool back then. |
| 15:43.49 | lukfugl | levi: we had to write an engine, but I don't remember what the query language for it was |
| 15:44.28 | levi | Ahh. Maybe they just fiddled with it a bit. |
| 15:44.38 | lukfugl | and it was in C/C++ for us. Java wasn't cool yet. You sure I didn't take it before you? |
| 15:44.56 | lukfugl | I took 235 the semester after I took 142 in pascal |
| 15:45.10 | levi | I started in '94. |
| 15:45.27 | elg | we did 235/236 in java when I took it |
| 15:45.34 | lukfugl | huh |
| 15:45.35 | elg | lukfugl must have taken it while I was on my mission |
| 15:45.40 | lukfugl | elg: yes, it was |
| 15:45.47 | lukfugl | maybe my teacher just didn't like java |
| 15:45.54 | levi | Could be. |
| 15:46.07 | levi | It actually sucked a lot worse back then. |
| 15:46.12 | lukfugl | and I didn't know java yet, and already knew C++, so that was fine by me |
| 15:46.40 | levi | What was your 143 like? |
| 15:46.54 | lukfugl | assembly on the old old macs :) |
| 15:47.11 | lukfugl | it was fun |
| 15:47.14 | levi | Are you sure you started in '98? |
| 15:47.19 | lukfugl | started in 96 |
| 15:47.24 | levi | Ahh, okay. |
| 15:47.36 | lukfugl | my last premission semester was winter 98 |
| 15:47.42 | lukfugl | actually no |
| 15:47.42 | levi | I see. |
| 15:47.47 | lukfugl | I worked full time that semester |
| 15:47.53 | lukfugl | my last premission semester was fall 97 |
| 15:48.36 | levi | So, I took 143 once on the old macs, once with SPIM on HP machines, and finally the cool one where we designed our own computer and ran assembly programs on it. |
| 15:50.34 | levi | I had issues with actually going to that class. |
| 15:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, that's what I get for pointing all of the computers at an invalid windows update server for months on end. 2,365 updates need installing, over ~30 computers. |
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| 15:51.47 | elg | -lart lukfugl |
| 15:53.14 | lukfugl | -lart elg |
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| 16:07.50 | findlay | so I rebooted this computer and now gnome doesn't have any window decorations and puts all the windows in the upper left corner |
| 16:07.58 | findlay | any ideas about this one? |
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| 16:10.03 | ScytheBlade1 | haha @ http://www.sltrib.com/ci_5756433?source=rss |
| 16:18.02 | graphyx | I took the db class at byu and we used oracle. |
| 16:18.40 | Keighvin | Ah, that Vince Horiuchi always cracks me up. |
| 16:19.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, he's a funny guy. |
| 16:19.35 | graphyx | wow about as much worthwhile content as they usually have. |
| 16:22.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Gotta love the magic of an RSS reader |
| 16:22.26 | findlay | so, that's strange |
| 16:22.46 | findlay | I deleted ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf* and my preferences have been preserved? |
| 16:23.25 | beandog | might be in ~/.config/ |
| 16:23.33 | beandog | dont blast that one away there |
| 16:23.34 | beandog | :) |
| 16:23.56 | findlay | there's nothing really in there |
| 16:24.13 | findlay | I wish every hidden file and directory would move into .config |
| 16:24.27 | findlay | shameless programs spew garbage all over my home dir |
| 16:24.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's a stupid bash scripting question. I have a file called brightness, and inside it is a numeric value. I want to echo that value +1 back to that file |
| 16:24.58 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: Are you going to join the PLUG LinkedIn Group? |
| 16:25.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And I can't figure out the syntax to do that |
| 16:26.41 | goozbach | ScytheBlade1: usually to read and then echo back into the same file needs to be two steps |
| 16:26.51 | goozbach | eg: read, store, write |
| 16:27.01 | elg | ScytheBlade1: maybe $[`cat foo` + 1] |
| 16:27.09 | ScytheBlade1 | goozbach, yeah. I've got it stored, I just need the syntax to increment it |
| 16:27.37 | ScytheBlade1 | elg, ohh, we may have a winner |
| 16:27.41 | elg | $ echo 41 > foo |
| 16:27.41 | elg | $ echo $[`cat foo`+1] |
| 16:27.41 | elg | 42 |
| 16:27.46 | lukfugl | echo $[`cat foo` + 1] > foo |
| 16:27.50 | lukfugl | worked for me |
| 16:27.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 16:28.11 | elg | ~pwn goozbach |
| 16:28.24 | ibot | ACTION logs into the machine goozbach is sitting at and pulls a fast one. |
| 16:28.25 | ScytheBlade1 | echo $[`cat brightness` - 1] > brightness |
| 16:28.26 | findlay | I need to rip a DVD. How should I do it? |
| 16:28.29 | ScytheBlade1 | And my laptop LCD screen dimms! Yay |
| 16:28.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 16:28.37 | beandog | findlay: mencoder |
| 16:28.38 | beandog | ogmrip |
| 16:28.39 | beandog | dvdrip |
| 16:28.41 | beandog | ffmpeg |
| 16:28.42 | beandog | transcode |
| 16:28.45 | findlay | this is kind of urgent too, as in I need to have this done today |
| 16:28.46 | beandog | etc. |
| 16:28.47 | rsimpkins | ScytheBlade1: echo $(( $(cat add)+1)); |
| 16:28.47 | ScytheBlade1 | dd |
| 16:28.49 | beandog | :) |
| 16:28.59 | lukfugl | findlay: one of those credit card shredders |
| 16:29.06 | lukfugl | ripping it by hand is kinda hard |
| 16:29.17 | beandog | findlay: rip or rip and encode |
| 16:29.19 | findlay | why can't I just copy the .VOB file? |
| 16:29.24 | beandog | rip: mplayer dvd:// -dumpstream -dumpfile foo.fob |
| 16:29.27 | ScytheBlade1 | raventh1, that looks a little bit... I'm not sure.. |
| 16:29.28 | beandog | er foo.vob |
| 16:29.31 | beandog | findlay: vobcopy |
| 16:29.41 | beandog | vobcopy -l |
| 16:29.42 | rsimpkins | ScytheBlade1: Then redirect that back out to add to increment. |
| 16:29.42 | findlay | but the DVD's already mounted |
| 16:29.48 | beandog | you dont have to mount it |
| 16:29.54 | beandog | you cant copy straight from the DVD |
| 16:29.56 | beandog | wont workie. |
| 16:29.59 | rsimpkins | sorry - you already got the answer. |
| 16:30.01 | findlay | ubuntu mounted it for me |
| 16:30.03 | rsimpkins | I'm too slow today. |
| 16:30.13 | ScytheBlade1 | rsimpkins, hehe, yeah, and in comparison to the answer I got, yours makes no sense at all to me ;) |
| 16:30.33 | lukfugl | ScytheBlade1: rsimpkins answer was pretty much the same thing |
| 16:30.43 | findlay | beandog: so the VOB file already has the audio in it? |
| 16:30.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it functions identially, just another way to do it |
| 16:30.49 | lukfugl | he uses $() instead of `` and $(()) instead of $[], that's all |
| 16:30.53 | beandog | findlay: yah, VOB is just the MPEG |
| 16:30.57 | beandog | well, with other stuff. |
| 16:31.34 | beandog | like subtitles. and all the audio streams. |
| 16:31.48 | beandog | Its just another container format. |
| 16:32.05 | findlay | well, this file is about 1GiB and I'd like to scale it down to maybe a quarter that size? |
| 16:32.05 | rsimpkins | ScytheBlade1: using $() instead of `` makes it only slightly easier to make it do more if needed. In this case it doesn't realy matter. |
| 16:32.23 | beandog | findlay: copy it off first, it's much, much faster reencoding from hdd than dvdrom |
| 16:32.30 | findlay | ok |
| 16:32.57 | graphyx | http://www.3gcables.com/Data_Cables-USB_DATA_CABLE_SAMSUNG_X475_C207_E315_C225_P735.html |
| 16:32.57 | graphyx | http://cellphoneforums.net/ringtones/t222911-how-make-your-own-hi-fi-ringers.html |
| 16:33.00 | brac | [USB DATA CABLE SAMSUNG X475 C207 E315 C225 P735 - Data Cables by 3G Cables] |
| 16:33.03 | findlay | does -dumpstream go in real time? |
| 16:33.04 | ScytheBlade1 | rsimpkins, ah |
| 16:33.05 | beandog | I would really recommend dvd::rip though |
| 16:33.07 | graphyx | elg: ^^^^^ |
| 16:33.11 | beandog | it'll be the easiest. |
| 16:33.13 | beandog | and its a gui |
| 16:33.14 | beandog | :D |
| 16:33.21 | beandog | exit1.org |
| 16:33.36 | beandog | findlay: real time? |
| 16:33.51 | findlay | yeah, as in not FF time |
| 16:34.08 | findlay | real time means no time scaling |
| 16:34.24 | beandog | ? |
| 16:34.25 | findlay | because that would be really dumb |
| 16:34.28 | beandog | youre just copying it |
| 16:34.32 | beandog | I dont follow. |
| 16:34.36 | findlay | ok, so it's not real time |
| 16:34.59 | findlay | beandog: if it were real time it would take the same amount of time to copy it as to watch it |
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| 16:35.54 | beandog | oh |
| 16:35.54 | beandog | no. |
| 16:35.56 | findlay | savvy? |
| 16:37.15 | beandog | its not realtime |
| 16:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo hoo. My laptop Fn buttons, which fire off ACPI events, now actually adjust the brightness of my laptop. |
| 16:37.38 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: distro? |
| 16:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, gentoo |
| 16:37.48 | findlay | sweet |
| 16:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It's nice |
| 16:38.19 | beandog | dang, I gotta setup my buttons. :C |
| 16:38.22 | findlay | hey |
| 16:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I configure a few other Fn buttons to toggle audio mute, and +/- the volume (also fire off ACPI events, which calls a script, which runs .. ) |
| 16:38.35 | beandog | ScytheBlade1: what laptop do you have |
| 16:38.35 | findlay | what window manager? |
| 16:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | beandog, an *old* Sony Vaio PCG-R505JL |
| 16:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | and I'm using fluxbox on this |
| 16:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | 750MHz of fury! |
| 16:39.14 | ScytheBlade1 | 15GB HD! |
| 16:39.19 | elg | graphyx: cool, but for $30 I could send quite a few ringtones over the pay network |
| 16:39.19 | ScytheBlade1 | And... 384MB of RAM! |
| 16:39.38 | beandog | nice |
| 16:40.05 | ScytheBlade1 | What makes this laptop really fun, is that the optical drive is attached to the docking station, which is firewire connected |
| 16:40.24 | findlay | beandog: so what do you recommend to scale down the resolution with? |
| 16:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | And the gentoo livecd doesn't support that (then again, neither does any other distro that I know of) |
| 16:40.29 | findlay | now that I've got the file? |
| 16:40.53 | beandog | findlay: uh, I dunno, Im not good at that stuff (dvd::rip makes it easy though) |
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| 16:41.10 | beandog | I hate screwing around with the resolution. Its a pain. |
| 16:41.18 | goozbach_ | ahh, I mis-read the question again |
| 16:41.19 | beandog | I cant even remember how to do it |
| 16:41.25 | findlay | well, I'm just trying to reduce the file size |
| 16:41.28 | goozbach_ | where'd I go? |
| 16:43.58 | beandog | findlay: well re-encoding to MPEG4 is gonna do that anyway |
| 16:43.59 | findlay | wherever you went, it ran into something |
| 16:43.59 | beandog | mencoder foo.vob -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp3 -endpos 90 -o test.avi |
| 16:43.59 | beandog | See how that looks |
| 16:44.04 | findlay | wow! that much just to convert mpeg2 to mpeg4? |
| 16:45.28 | beandog | that's nothing. :) |
| 16:45.37 | findlay | :) |
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| 16:46.53 | beandog | http://www.spaceparanoids.org/gentoo/mplayer/mencoder |
| 16:46.58 | beandog | theres some fun mencoder options |
| 16:47.31 | beandog | obviously they aren't shy about having a lot of options |
| 16:47.33 | beandog | :) |
| 16:48.21 | levi | My G4 iBook is about 2 years old now. |
| 16:48.39 | levi | And it wasn't exactly a speed demon to begin with. |
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| 16:52.54 | findlay | beandog: how would I convert it into quicktime format? |
| 16:53.05 | beandog | uh |
| 16:53.08 | beandog | you can make an mp4 |
| 16:53.11 | beandog | but not an .mov |
| 16:53.15 | findlay | why not? |
| 16:53.17 | beandog | besides, quicktime can play an AVI |
| 16:53.31 | findlay | mpeg4 == avi? |
| 16:53.35 | beandog | no |
| 16:53.46 | beandog | AVI is the container, MPEG4 is the (video) codec |
| 16:53.48 | findlay | anything can play avi? |
| 16:53.51 | findlay | ok |
| 16:53.56 | beandog | depends on the codecs |
| 16:53.59 | beandog | AVI only supports so many |
| 16:54.01 | beandog | MOV a few more |
| 16:54.02 | beandog | etc. |
| 16:54.06 | beandog | MPG not very many |
| 16:54.07 | findlay | I just want to make sure they will be able to play this |
| 16:54.11 | beandog | MP4 a bunch moer. |
| 16:54.23 | beandog | er, actually I think MP4 might not. Not sure. |
| 16:55.01 | findlay | well, I want to offer it in mov and wmv format |
| 16:55.03 | beandog | might need to chance the ffourcc value |
| 16:55.10 | beandog | cant do wmv either. |
| 16:55.12 | beandog | thats a codec. |
| 16:55.20 | beandog | and a container. |
| 16:55.39 | beandog | AVI is your only option if you want windows / mac users to watch it |
| 16:55.54 | findlay | but you said AVI is just a container |
| 16:56.01 | beandog | Right. |
| 16:56.07 | findlay | they will have to have to support the codecs as well, right? |
| 16:56.14 | beandog | Not if you use something simple |
| 16:56.18 | beandog | Like MPEG4 + MP3 |
| 16:56.29 | findlay | you think that's a winning combination? |
| 16:56.34 | beandog | That's the most common |
| 16:56.41 | beandog | its DivX, basically. |
| 16:56.47 | beandog | well, the audio could be anything. |
| 16:56.53 | beandog | MP2, MP3, AC3, WAV, etc. |
| 16:56.55 | beandog | AAC |
| 16:56.56 | findlay | will windows media player/itunes/quicktime play it out of the box? |
| 16:57.03 | beandog | maybe. |
| 16:57.04 | beandog | Im not suer. |
| 16:57.09 | findlay | :? |
| 16:57.16 | findlay | s/?/\// |
| 16:57.54 | findlay | well, I want to offer the file in a couple of formats just in case then |
| 16:58.07 | findlay | do you have any suggestions? |
| 16:58.07 | beandog | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide |
| 16:58.13 | beandog | MPEG4 + MP3 |
| 16:58.14 | beandog | :) |
| 16:58.17 | beandog | In an AVI |
| 16:58.20 | beandog | That'll be DivX |
| 16:58.46 | beandog | so mencoder foo.vob -ovc lavc -oac lavc -o movie.avi -lavcopts acodec=mp3 -ffourcc DX50 |
| 16:58.50 | beandog | That *should* work |
| 16:58.53 | beandog | on anything. |
| 16:59.08 | findlay | but I thought your last command already put it in mpeg4+mp3 |
| 16:59.13 | beandog | it did. |
| 16:59.16 | beandog | I just threw in that last option |
| 16:59.37 | beandog | MPEG4 has a lot of variations ... DivX, XviD, WMV, etc. |
| 16:59.48 | beandog | Same codec + certain other shtuff they crammed on top. |
| 16:59.50 | findlay | what's DX50? |
| 16:59.55 | beandog | DivX 5.0 |
| 16:59.58 | findlay | ah |
| 17:06.29 | Keighvin | Thus concludes the findlay/beandog hour. Join us tomorrow for a further installment in this dynamic exchange by two characters with local flavor! |
| 17:08.50 | findlay | ~mencoder Keighvin |
| 17:08.54 | ibot | ACTION reencodes Keighvin into an optimal format |
| 17:09.37 | beandog | heh |
| 17:09.39 | beandog | local flavor |
| 17:11.12 | findlay | beandog: so the scale video filter is what would resize it? |
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| 17:16.54 | findlay | beandog: http://f0rked.com/projects/simplerip |
| 17:16.55 | brac | [SimpleRip: Ripping/Encoding DVDs to XviD with Mencoder :: f0rked.com] |
| 17:18.16 | raventh1 | ScytheBlade1: hm? |
| 17:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | raventh1, sorry, I must have mis-tabbed. ;) |
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| 17:23.15 | beandog | findlay: yah |
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| 17:26.23 | nick125- | I feel dirty - I asked how to auth to a windows PDC in #gentoo-server :/ |
| 17:29.32 | jsmith | OK, who's our resident Sendmail expert? |
| 17:29.50 | nick125- | I know it isn't me |
| 17:30.09 | nick125- | besides, I'm more of a postfix guy anyways. |
| 17:31.15 | goozbach | who here drops the most acid? |
| 17:31.15 | jsmith | goozbach: Good point |
| 17:31.15 | goozbach | isn't that what you meant, jsmith ? |
| 17:31.15 | jsmith | OK, so here's my sendmail problem |
| 17:31.16 | elg | nobody uses sendmail anymore. that's my expert opinion |
| 17:31.23 | jsmith | Trying to help a client, and so I can't use postfix or exim |
| 17:31.37 | goozbach | I MAY be able to help |
| 17:31.41 | elg | i recommend charging twice your normal rate for sendmail |
| 17:31.45 | jsmith | All mail sent from that box goes out as coming from 'localhost', even though I've set the hostname |
| 17:31.47 | nick125- | elg: I agree. |
| 17:31.51 | jsmith | elg: I agree! |
| 17:31.57 | goozbach | I've repressed most of my sendmail knolege |
| 17:32.16 | nick125- | elg: I think it should be five times the normal rate |
| 17:35.10 | elg | cell phones are such a crock |
| 17:35.16 | nick125- | Wee, I get to start setting up a LTSP setup today. |
| 17:35.26 | elg | I figured out ffmpeg is able to make the .mmf file for me. yay |
| 17:35.49 | elg | but how to get it onto the phone I have no idea. I found T-Mobile's email-to-MMS gateway but it strips the attachment |
| 17:36.21 | elg | I could probably download it through the internet but I don't know about these buzzwords like WAP etc. |
| 17:36.32 | jsmith | You don't need no stinkin' buzzwords. |
| 17:36.40 | jsmith | Just put it on a web server, and go download it. |
| 17:36.46 | nick125- | Yep |
| 17:36.59 | jsmith | So, nobody has an idea about my sendmail problem? |
| 17:37.32 | nick125- | Unless it's Verizon, because they are really a pain about what people put on their phones, what they download, etc |
| 17:37.57 | nick125- | jsmith: Does sendmail have some kind of configuration option to set hostname? |
| 17:38.12 | jsmith | nick125-: Not that I've been able to find. |
| 17:38.26 | elg | jsmith: if it does, it's arcane and uses one letter and doesn't behave as you'd think it would |
| 17:38.27 | jsmith | nick125-: If I knew, I wouldn't be in here asking :-) |
| 17:38.35 | jsmith | elg: Amen, brother! |
| 17:38.43 | nick125- | Did you add the hostname to /etc/hosts |
| 17:38.44 | jsmith | elg: And it would be written in m4 |
| 17:38.46 | nick125- | ? |
| 17:38.47 | jsmith | nick125-: Yes |
| 17:39.02 | elg | so I can just put it at http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/foo.mmf and somehow type that url in the phone and it will go fetch it? |
| 17:39.10 | nick125- | I can't remember if sendmail uses gethostname() or not |
| 17:39.11 | jsmith | elg: Yes, that's the idea. |
| 17:39.17 | nick125- | elg: that should work |
| 17:39.26 | elg | that sounds too sane to work for a cell phone |
| 17:39.46 | nick125- | You could email the link to the device.. |
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| 17:41.20 | goozbach | jsmith: you have the sendmail cf packages installed? |
| 17:41.26 | jsmith | goozbach: Yes |
| 17:41.42 | jsmith | (needed that to get the mail routed through a smart host) |
| 17:43.07 | jsmith | elg: My cell gives me a 404 on that mmf file :-) |
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| 17:43.26 | elg | try this one: http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/drwho.mmf |
| 17:43.35 | nick125- | I would check it but palmos can't multitask :( |
| 17:44.13 | jsmith | Oooh, yuck. |
| 17:44.31 | jsmith | It seems that sendmail uses whatever the first alias for 127.0.0.1 is in /etc/hosts |
| 17:45.26 | nick125- | jsmith: gethostname() uses it, and I was about to tell you to reorder it... |
| 17:45.30 | elg | ~flunk nick125 |
| 17:45.33 | ibot | ACTION shoves a dunce cap on nick125 then encourages everyone to point and laugh |
| 17:45.55 | goozbach | jsmith: you could try MASQUERADE_AS(`mydomain.com') |
| 17:46.06 | goozbach | in your sendmail.mc |
| 17:46.09 | jsmith | goozbach: I was about to try that, when I stumbled across this. |
| 17:46.14 | nick125- | I have 15 minutes to do nothing, do you think I can get it done in that time period? |
| 17:46.14 | jsmith | If this doesn't work, that's next |
| 17:46.28 | goozbach | methinks that's the proper config stanza |
| 17:46.32 | sjansen | harleypig: For a mere $750 I will allow you to read my copy of the K&R C book for 2 hours then boot you in the head. |
| 17:46.44 | elg | harleypig: i'll be your own personal bootcamp if you like. I'll give you programming assignments and tell ibot to yell at you if you don't complete them. |
| 17:46.56 | elg | doh. sjansen beat me to the punchline |
| 17:47.25 | nick125- | elg: yelling at people is so ineffective. |
| 17:47.44 | elg | jsmith: hopefully they don't have some other program that requires the first 127.0.0.1 to say localhost |
| 17:47.54 | elg | I've been there, done that. stupid proprietary software |
| 17:48.02 | jsmith | Knowing the way clients are, they probably do. |
| 17:48.06 | findlay | heh |
| 17:48.23 | elg | nick125-: SHUT UPT!!!1! |
| 17:48.47 | nick125- | elg: NOOOOO!!!!!!j!!!!!!!jj!j |
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| 17:50.30 | *** mode/#utah [-v nick125-] by goozbach |
| 17:50.33 | goozbach | :) |
| 17:50.36 | nick125- | I have a server with 5x18.2GB HDs, what should I do with it? RAID5? RAID 10? |
| 17:50.41 | nick125- | lol |
| 17:50.52 | goozbach | raid 0+1 |
| 17:51.04 | goozbach | if they're fast |
| 17:51.25 | goozbach | it all depends on what you want: speed, size, or redundancy |
| 17:51.34 | sjansen | nick125: RAID6+10 just for the pleasure of saying you were the first |
| 17:51.34 | nick125- | 7200rpm scsi drives |
| 17:51.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I like sjansen's idea |
| 17:51.44 | findlay | what does hdparm -tT say? |
| 17:52.21 | nick125- | findlay: its currently running win 2k advanced server, and I can't figure out why I can't burn CDs on my laptop |
| 17:52.27 | sjansen | goozbach: Any reason you recommend raid0+1? I'd prefer raid10 and on older systems raid1+0. |
| 17:52.58 | nick125- | Its a dual 500mhz p3 with a gig of ram |
| 17:53.17 | goozbach | sjansen: just to be different |
| 17:53.21 | sjansen | nick125: that babies just begging for raid6+10 |
| 17:53.22 | nick125- | I'm planning on loading gentoo on it this afternoon |
| 17:53.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 6+10! 6+10! |
| 17:53.39 | goozbach | everybody does raid 10 |
| 17:53.41 | findlay | 6+11 !! |
| 17:53.43 | elg | jsmith: let me know if that works for you. apparently my wife's plan doesn't include normal web addresses |
| 17:53.48 | goozbach | 0+1 is rare |
| 17:53.57 | sjansen | goozbach: there's a reason ;-) |
| 17:54.10 | nick125- | Its going to mainly be a LDAP/NFS/Samba server |
| 17:54.11 | goozbach | what would that be? |
| 17:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah... if one drive goes belly up.. |
| 17:54.21 | jsmith | elg: I downloaded the file just fine, but neither the built-in media player nor realplayer would play it |
| 17:54.24 | beandog | nick125-: LTSP is really easy |
| 17:54.37 | jsmith | elg: What's an .mmf file, anyway? |
| 17:54.46 | beandog | well, kidna. |
| 17:54.47 | nick125- | elg: Is it a GSM phone? do you have another SIM that can access the internet? |
| 17:54.48 | beandog | kinda |
| 17:54.51 | nick125- | beandog: on gentoo? |
| 17:55.00 | beandog | nick125-: yah, last job I had a 50 client setup |
| 17:55.09 | beandog | uptime of over a year 8D |
| 17:55.26 | goozbach | bah, my sarcasim isn't showing too well |
| 17:55.32 | nick125- | beandog: I'm thinking of using a different box for the ltsp server |
| 17:55.36 | beandog | jsmith: you on x86 or amd64 |
| 17:56.01 | goozbach | pineapple |
| 17:56.02 | nick125- | I don't want stupid people crashing the LDAP/NFS server |
| 17:56.18 | jsmith | beandog: Right this second, I'm on ppc |
| 17:56.29 | jsmith | beandog: Ordinarily, I'd be on x86_64 |
| 17:56.40 | jsmith | beandog: Unless I was on someone else's machine, and then I'd be stuck on i386 |
| 17:56.45 | nick125- | I wish XP Home could authenticate to LDAP |
| 17:56.51 | jsmith | beandog: Why? |
| 17:56.59 | beandog | jsmith: realplayer |
| 17:57.06 | beandog | different codecs for different arches |
| 17:57.15 | jsmith | beandog: Oh, this is on my phone |
| 17:57.30 | goozbach | nick125-: why can't it? |
| 17:57.30 | jsmith | beandog: I don't let RealPlayer anywhere near my Linux boxen |
| 17:57.32 | nick125- | jsmith: what kind of phone? |
| 17:57.40 | jsmith | nick125-: Nokie E series |
| 17:57.42 | beandog | jsmith: doesnt matter, you can still use lavc to decode some of em |
| 17:57.46 | beandog | just not all |
| 17:57.46 | goozbach | get yourself a different GINA, and you're golden |
| 17:58.13 | nick125- | goozbach: because ms is a bunch of money sucking b*****s |
| 17:58.35 | goozbach | nick125-: I'm telling you it doesn't have anything to do with money |
| 17:58.44 | goozbach | download Pgina and go to town |
| 17:58.52 | nick125- | pgina? |
| 17:59.01 | goozbach | OR, create a Kerberos server, and authenticate against that |
| 17:59.09 | goozbach | ~google pgina |
| 17:59.28 | nick125- | Can XP Home autheticate against kerberos? |
| 17:59.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It can |
| 17:59.33 | findlay | ~mencoder jsmith |
| 17:59.34 | ibot | ACTION reencodes jsmith into an optimal format |
| 17:59.44 | nick125- | I can't upgrade these machines to Pro or Linux :( |
| 17:59.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It's as easy to setup as a single (ONE!) line typed into the run box |
| 17:59.58 | jsmith | findlay: Gee... I feel... so... blocky |
| 18:00.01 | nick125- | (two machines, actually |
| 18:00.06 | ScytheBlade1 | However, all users that auth against kerberos are seen as local users |
| 18:00.09 | findlay | jsmith: heh |
| 18:00.22 | findlay | -chat about kerberos |
| 18:00.23 | brac | kerberos had |
| 18:02.06 | sjansen | goozbach: You know, I'm trying to remember why raid1+0 is better than raid0+1 but each reason I remember doesn't pass the BS test. I'm going to have to fall back on "because somebody said so". |
| 18:02.32 | goozbach | sjansen: my suggestion was complete and udder bs to begin with |
| 18:02.54 | sjansen | ah |
| 18:02.54 | nick125- | I need to automount a network filesystem on windows xp home, but, it needs to be dependent on the user (for example, user bbob will need to mount \\Fileserver\\Users\bbob) |
| 18:03.12 | goozbach | I chose the most BS possible hybrid raid senario |
| 18:03.20 | sjansen | Now that you mention it raid0+1 with 5 disks is kinda odd. |
| 18:03.48 | goozbach | sjansen: one hot spare |
| 18:03.52 | goozbach | :) |
| 18:03.58 | sjansen | goozbach++ |
| 18:04.24 | nick125- | goozbach: good idea |
| 18:04.47 | nick125- | I can't believe this stuff is just laying around either |
| 18:06.50 | nick125- | found two cisco routers, three older machines (great for ltsp), a decent file server |
| 18:07.36 | nick125- | a huge pile of cables |
| 18:07.43 | jsmith | nick125-: Send me the routers! |
| 18:07.58 | nick125- | No! |
| 18:08.20 | nick125- | only a 2501 and a 2610 |
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| 18:09.57 | findlay | nick125-: where? |
| 18:10.13 | nick125- | my school |
| 18:10.41 | findlay | ha |
| 18:11.05 | findlay | and he's gone |
| 18:11.44 | *** join/#utah nick125- (n=ndevito@m0b0e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 18:12.05 | findlay | and he's back |
| 18:12.17 | nick125- | I really wish this phone could multitask.. |
| 18:12.48 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
| 18:12.58 | *** kick/#utah [findlay!n=fugalh@dhcp13.cs.nmsu.edu] by elg (Announce This) |
| 18:13.16 | nick125- | ooo burn |
| 18:13.48 | goozbach | sjansen: "cleaning your gutters and using a nail gun"? |
| 18:14.28 | goozbach | hammer, whatever |
| 18:14.34 | goozbach | that analogy was flawed |
| 18:14.43 | goozbach | I agree that LVM is not just for servers |
| 18:15.03 | goozbach | but you're slacking, usually your analogies are much more scathing |
| 18:15.07 | elg | what, time for another flawed analogy flamewar already? |
| 18:15.20 | nick125- | elg: sounds like! |
| 18:15.32 | goozbach | sjansen: if that was trollbait, then I bow before your exelence |
| 18:15.32 | nick125- | elg: want some popcorn? |
| 18:16.47 | elg | yes please |
| 18:17.32 | nick125- | elg: butter? |
| 18:18.04 | elg | yes but not that sickening oil slick they put on at theaters |
| 18:18.33 | elg | flavacol is an improvement by far |
| 18:18.35 | ^Migs^ | crap, I missed the 4GB SD card on the woot-off |
| 18:18.48 | elg | even if it does mess with the back of your nasal passages |
| 18:18.55 | nick125- | no. that's a bucket of oil topped by a few popped popcorn kernels |
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| 18:20.17 | elg | sjansen: you can add debian to your list of annoying password-for-single-user-mode distros |
| 18:21.07 | sjansen | elg: Yeah, but then I wouldn't be able to balance it with a comment about a nifty rescue disc. |
| 18:21.08 | nick125- | I grub-protect my SU mode entry |
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| 18:21.40 | sjansen | goozbach: Actually, it was just a poor analogy created on short notice. I'm trying to discover a kinder, gentler sjansen. |
| 18:21.42 | graphyx | elg: Did you get that link to a site that had the cable for your phone? |
| 18:21.56 | elg | yeah, $30 is too much |
| 18:22.25 | nick125- | you can get a data plan for much less than that |
| 18:22.55 | elg | i want to get 100 kb onto my phone once. Even in the Old Days Of Dialup 100kb was smallish |
| 18:23.03 | graphyx | that is true. |
| 18:23.14 | graphyx | just wanted to point out it was out there. |
| 18:23.28 | elg | yeah, good to know for curiousity sake |
| 18:23.46 | elg | if I see someone walking down the street with the same phone I can tackle them and make them share their data cable for a few minuets |
| 18:24.14 | elg | data plan is $6/mo, no doubt i'd have to do a full month |
| 18:24.21 | elg | and the plan is through her parents so it would be a big hassle and all kinds of questions, blank stares, and eye rolling |
| 18:25.01 | elg | people addicted to cell phones without any of the gadgetry curiosity... argh |
| 18:25.46 | elg | calvarez and peer should learn to get along |
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| 18:26.46 | goozbach | sjansen: say it aint so... |
| 18:26.57 | goozbach | kinder, gentler? NO!!!!!!! |
| 18:27.25 | sjansen | ~educate calvarez |
| 18:27.27 | ibot | ACTION teaches calvarez the basics, including how to RTM. |
| 18:28.08 | calvarez | ibot, you newb, you can't teach me anything |
| 18:28.35 | calvarez | sjansen, go do some Windows tutorials |
| 18:29.15 | sjansen | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Not that! Anything but that! |
| 18:30.03 | graphyx | I was just realizing one of the stark differences between linux and windows tutorials. |
| 18:30.10 | graphyx | the graphics. |
| 18:30.27 | graphyx | windows almost requires snapshots to understand what is occuring. |
| 18:30.30 | elg | the graphyx? what, the ones in windows tutorials want to make you barf? |
| 18:30.33 | graphyx | linux doesn't |
| 18:30.47 | graphyx | for a lot of things |
| 18:30.48 | elg | well you can say "type foo" or "put foo in this file" |
| 18:30.57 | elg | in linux you either have to describe gui actions or show them |
| 18:31.01 | elg | the latter is more effective |
| 18:31.22 | graphyx | right. |
| 18:31.42 | lukfugl | s/linux/windows/? |
| 18:31.51 | elg | er, yeah |
| 18:32.10 | sjansen | Anybody wanna buy a phone? |
| 18:32.15 | graphyx | cause people can't be constrained to figure out what a textual description of a picture button is. |
| 18:32.22 | sjansen | We're having a special. |
| 18:32.35 | elg | ~beat sjansen |
| 18:32.41 | ibot | ACTION beats sjansen with a dripping-wet & less-than-fresh fish |
| 18:32.41 | sjansen | Buy one now and get a lifetime supply of resistors. |
| 18:32.54 | elg | sjansen: no, I'm only here to look for a light-emitting-diode. do you carry those? |
| 18:33.06 | sjansen | huh? |
| 18:33.22 | sjansen | lighting bug whatzits? |
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| 18:33.33 | elg | the correct reply is, "um, I think we have some phones that blink different colors when you have service" |
| 18:34.05 | elg | what are you looking for? |
| 18:34.11 | lukfugl | scifi probably |
| 18:34.13 | sjansen | ~amuse lukfugl |
| 18:34.23 | sjansen | ~distract lukfugl |
| 18:34.25 | ibot | ACTION puts on a brunet wig and saunters past lukfugl with a cold beer in her hand. "Hello, sailor! Wanna go for a ride?" |
| 18:34.25 | elg | quick? long? scifi? fantasy? classic? newfangled? |
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| 18:34.39 | elg | amateur? professional? |
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| 18:34.53 | sjansen | lukfugl: #utah + ibot = all the IF you'll ever need |
| 18:35.04 | elg | -lart Jayce |
| 18:35.22 | graphyx | -chat about the reason |
| 18:35.23 | brac | the reason that oss emulation hasn't been locked by tensai. |
| 18:35.44 | lukfugl | scifi/fantasy, medium length. something to play during lunch breaks |
| 18:35.51 | elg | the yearly IF competition winner(s) are always a good start |
| 18:36.00 | elg | I recommend slouching towards bedlam from a year or two ago |
| 18:36.03 | lukfugl | ala trinity, but not trinity or amfv, as I want something I've not already done |
| 18:36.25 | elg | you finished amfv? |
| 18:36.45 | elg | http://peccable.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=27 |
| 18:36.46 | lukfugl | well not finished, but got far enough in to be finished with it myself :) |
| 18:36.48 | brac | [Peccable Productions - Slouching Towards Bedlam] |
| 18:37.02 | elg | amfv is like a never ending pit of despair |
| 18:37.04 | elg | :) |
| 18:37.11 | elg | interesting premise though |
| 18:37.42 | lukfugl | elg: mind if I dl the slouching one into /usr/share/games/zcode on falcon? |
| 18:37.44 | levi | What's amfv stand for? |
| 18:37.53 | lukfugl | "A Mind Forever Voyaging" |
| 18:37.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmmm, Thunderbird 2.0 |
| 18:38.07 | lukfugl | and it does go on forever |
| 18:38.07 | levi | Aha. I think I started that one a long time ago. |
| 18:38.43 | lukfugl | maybe I'll just install zcode-interpreter on my machine here instead |
| 18:39.22 | elg | lukfugl: you have ubuntu there? you can install frotz |
| 18:39.32 | lukfugl | debian, not ubuntu |
| 18:39.47 | elg | then you really can install frotz for sure. the maintainer's a real punk, but it works fine |
| 18:40.12 | lukfugl | d'oh |
| 18:40.37 | elg | d'oh? |
| 18:41.02 | goozbach | alien ant farm was a good band |
| 18:41.12 | lukfugl | anyway to back out of a upgrade on debian? I got one ready to go months ago, but haven't let it run because our bandwidth in the office sucks |
| 18:41.27 | elg | in aptitude/ just q |
| 18:41.32 | lukfugl | but it won't let me install one new package without trying to run the whole upgrade |
| 18:41.43 | elg | then do apt-get install frotz at the command line. it will ignore all the stuff you have pending in aptitude |
| 18:42.25 | lukfugl | huh. for some reason I thought apt-get remembered the queued up stuff as well. |
| 18:43.04 | elg | just in case y'all were wondering, no my professor has not posted that lab yet |
| 18:43.19 | lukfugl | oo, steampunk. I can probably get into this |
| 18:43.53 | elg | i did, and i'd never heard of steampunk |
| 18:48.32 | lukfugl | same author as tapestry. I've heard good things about that one as well. was that from you, elg? |
| 18:49.24 | elg | lukfugl: i also really enjoyed http://ifarchive.org/if-archive/games/competition2004/zcode/devours/devours.z5 |
| 18:49.32 | elg | hmm, no. haven't heard of tapestry |
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| 19:00.22 | lukfugl | steampunk, as far as I understand the term, is 1800s type of society but with all sorts of "futuristic" (to the 1800s) contraptions |
| 19:00.40 | elg | ~steampunk |
| 19:01.07 | graphyx | it you get run over by thomas the tank engine does that mean you have been steamedpunked? |
| 19:01.43 | lukfugl | kinda Jules Verne to the extreme, but by nostalgic modern authors as opposed to the fact that Jules Verne was contemporary to the 1800s |
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| 19:06.43 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 19:06.49 | graphyx | you sleeping yet Jayce^? |
| 19:06.55 | Jayce^ | hah |
| 19:07.51 | graphyx | that bad? |
| 19:10.23 | Jayce^ | only had one night home so far |
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| 19:11.54 | Keighvin | So long as everyone's healthy. |
| 19:12.02 | Keighvin | Did you get my comment on the announcement? |
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| 19:12.12 | Jayce^ | yup |
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| 19:18.35 | graphyx | and yet you find time to be on IRC. |
| 19:18.50 | graphyx | the geek is dead (tired) long like the geek! |
| 19:19.10 | Keighvin | Jayce^ isn't actually on IRC. He almost never is - it's his subconscious, through the T-jack connector he has implanted at the base of his skull. |
| 19:20.51 | graphyx | In the matrix, they had to call back to base to be able to exit, but phones only support bit rates of 56K. Does that mean that their mentalities could be held in only 10k? |
| 19:22.01 | Keighvin | The Wachaowski brothers', maybe. |
| 19:22.09 | Keighvin | Well, and Keanu Reeves, definitely. |
| 19:23.00 | graphyx | lol |
| 19:23.26 | Keighvin | Coule of'em, even. |
| 19:23.34 | ^Migs^ | that's an invalid point. The phones weren't real. |
| 19:23.53 | Keighvin | s/Coule/Couple/ |
| 19:23.55 | graphyx | then why do the talk about having the hard line cut? |
| 19:24.03 | graphyx | the hard phone line? |
| 19:24.20 | graphyx | If it was all symbolic then they wouldn't need bother with the hardline. |
| 19:24.39 | ^Migs^ | perhaps they introduced advanced technology into the phone lines |
| 19:24.52 | ^Migs^ | before teleporting out, that is |
| 19:24.59 | ^Migs^ | then the phones would return to normal |
| 19:25.03 | graphyx | oh |
| 19:25.05 | Keighvin | Which was also symbolic, or at least had a symbolic representation (one scene shows bolt cutters applied to a wire with much sparkage) |
| 19:25.12 | graphyx | like setting up a ssl session |
| 19:25.12 | graphyx | ? |
| 19:25.21 | graphyx | for the wireless communication? |
| 19:25.38 | graphyx | Got to trade the key securely? |
| 19:25.46 | Keighvin | Or maybe like satellite broadband - requests on the land line, reception on the satellite. |
| 19:25.54 | graphyx | There we go. |
| 19:26.00 | Keighvin | Either way, that "architect" must really suck - trusting the client like that. |
| 19:26.01 | graphyx | I think that best fits. |
| 19:26.08 | graphyx | indeed. |
| 19:26.39 | graphyx | just think if they have a trusting computing module the movie would have been 5 minutes long. |
| 19:27.46 | Keighvin | And a Windows logo over the credits. |
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| 19:51.07 | graphyx | ok |
| 19:51.16 | graphyx | ubuntu or fedora core 6 |
| 19:51.32 | graphyx | main usage will be vmware server to test security agents on systems. |
| 19:51.37 | graphyx | any comments? |
| 19:52.02 | Ritter | FC6 |
| 19:53.07 | jsmith | FC6 |
| 19:53.14 | jsmith | (or wait for FC7) |
| 19:53.25 | jsmith | FC7 will give you VMWare + Xen + KVM + Qemu |
| 19:54.09 | Ritter | do you want to run a poor rip-off (ubuntu), are something by a creditable entity who has been in this business a lot longer |
| 19:54.26 | Ritter | its silly to me to consider ubuntu even an option |
| 19:54.47 | Ritter | but then, I run Gentoo .. I'm known for being crazy |
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| 20:01.12 | beandog | gentoo! |
| 20:01.13 | beandog | woots! |
| 20:01.21 | beandog | alright, Im done. |
| 20:01.31 | Ritter | lol |
| 20:02.45 | graphyx | Ritter beandog Gentoo is the distro that I know best. |
| 20:02.58 | Ritter | :D |
| 20:03.01 | graphyx | Do they have the vmware server working well under gentoo? |
| 20:03.01 | Ritter | me too |
| 20:03.22 | Ritter | was it a gentoo specific issue? |
| 20:03.22 | graphyx | Use that as my desktop for more than a year. |
| 20:03.34 | graphyx | I don't know. |
| 20:03.40 | Ritter | I know gentoo runs vmware well, but I don't know about vmware-server |
| 20:03.55 | Ritter | I actually run gentoo-hardened |
| 20:03.56 | beandog | what Ritter said |
| 20:03.57 | graphyx | I tried it before there was a ebuild when it was first done. |
| 20:03.58 | beandog | about vmware |
| 20:04.24 | Ritter | its likely come a long way since then |
| 20:05.42 | graphyx | sure |
| 20:05.56 | graphyx | I grab a machine that was left behind. |
| 20:05.57 | elg | Ritter beandog Gentoo? Is that a special variation of gentoo? |
| 20:06.23 | graphyx | I am currently making a vmware session out of the windows install that was on it |
| 20:06.39 | graphyx | to replace it with a distro running vmware server. |
| 20:06.40 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 20:06.47 | graphyx | elg: lol |
| 20:07.05 | graphyx | then I will have a xp session to use already. |
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| 20:28.17 | ^Migs^ | what the....some guy from "Proactive Network Solutions" called and quizzed me about who was working here and crap. I don't know how he knew so much about us. |
| 20:28.54 | elg | blame Jayce^ |
| 20:29.03 | elg | he's not awake enough to defend himself |
| 20:29.48 | graphyx | did he really know it all or did he just social engineer you? |
| 20:31.18 | sjansen | ^Migs^: "Proactive Network Solutions"? That's sounds like a BS social engineering name if ever I heard one. |
| 20:31.46 | ^Migs^ | some data mining crap or something? |
| 20:32.17 | ^Migs^ | I should send a letter notifying them to stop harassing us or we will press legal charges. I feel violated. |
| 20:32.20 | sjansen | Or a smart a** student trying to learn enough to change his grades. |
| 20:33.10 | ^Migs^ | no, it sounded like an old guy |
| 20:33.18 | ^Migs^ | he sounded bored, as if he's been doing this all day |
| 20:33.32 | sjansen | ^Migs^: Wanna have some fun? Read Kevin Mitnick's "The Art of Deception". |
| 20:33.36 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 20:34.27 | sjansen | Hackers are so much more fun than cold calling marketers. |
| 20:35.36 | ^Migs^ | reading it now |
| 20:35.56 | ^Migs^ | oh I see what this is about |
| 20:36.02 | ^Migs^ | haha cool |
| 20:36.05 | graphyx | sjansen: Are you sure that giving ^Migs^ that knowledge is a good idea? |
| 20:36.23 | ^Migs^ | giving me knowledge is pointless. I already possess all knowledge. |
| 20:36.39 | graphyx | Perhaps he will become a more subtle troll. |
| 20:36.45 | graphyx | which would be more fun. |
| 20:36.58 | ^Migs^ | fun for some |
| 20:37.27 | sjansen | ~smurf graphyx |
| 20:37.30 | ibot | ACTION DoSes graphyx |
| 20:37.47 | graphyx | ~teardrop sjansen |
| 20:38.08 | graphyx | ibot your attacks are outdated! |
| 20:38.10 | ibot | graphyx: okay |
| 20:38.28 | graphyx | ~ani sjansen |
| 20:38.33 | lukfugl | ~your attacks |
| 20:38.35 | ibot | your attacks are outdated! |
| 20:38.56 | graphyx | I thought only is did that |
| 20:39.17 | sjansen | Silly graphyx, ibot can conjugate. |
| 20:40.29 | graphyx | ibot your attacks were outdated! |
| 20:40.44 | graphyx | ~conjugate! |
| 20:40.55 | levi | Yay, I love emacs. |
| 20:41.14 | graphyx | I thought we prefered imacs? |
| 20:41.21 | elg | ~say I not be conjugate ever again |
| 20:41.23 | ibot | I not be conjugate ever again |
| 20:41.44 | levi | dired mode + regex marking + search in marked files is wonderful. |
| 20:41.52 | graphyx | ~say o i c m r rats. c m idbd is? |
| 20:41.54 | ibot | o i c m r rats. c m idbd is |
| 20:42.19 | elg | mrducks |
| 20:42.29 | elg | mrnot |
| 20:42.31 | elg | osmr |
| 20:42.34 | elg | cmwangs? |
| 20:42.37 | elg | oicmrducks |
| 20:43.06 | graphyx | exactly |
| 20:43.33 | graphyx | being here in the south I have learned the local vernacular. |
| 20:43.35 | lukfugl | I can't make out what idbd is supposed to be, though |
| 20:43.43 | lukfugl | ah |
| 20:43.47 | lukfugl | itty bitty |
| 20:43.48 | graphyx | itty bitty eyes |
| 20:55.02 | jsmith | Oh, I thought it was cdbd is (see the beady eyes) |
| 21:01.43 | raventh1 | mr!ducks |
| 21:04.42 | ^Migs^ | uh oh, our web filter is down |
| 21:16.37 | levi | Interesting: http://hacketyhack.net/ |
| 21:16.41 | brac | [Hackety Hack: the Coder's Starter Kit] |
| 21:18.32 | beandog | wtc |
| 21:18.59 | lukfugl | wtc? |
| 21:19.20 | beandog | I like the piccies |
| 21:19.32 | lukfugl | because "wth" can be a common reaction to one's first exposure to _why :) |
| 21:19.33 | beandog | is that a beard or a scarf? |
| 21:19.43 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 21:19.45 | lukfugl | I guess f and c are next to each other |
| 21:19.51 | ^Migs^ | we just got a new girl janitor, and she's pretty cute |
| 21:19.54 | beandog | what the crap |
| 21:19.58 | beandog | silly phoobs. |
| 21:20.00 | lukfugl | ah. crap |
| 21:20.10 | beandog | ~wtf wtc |
| 21:21.46 | raventh1 | ~lart wtc |
| 21:21.46 | ibot | judo chops wtc |
| 21:21.46 | levi | beandog: I think it's a cape. |
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| 21:24.15 | raventh1 | ibot: echo "king of echoooo" |
| 21:24.17 | ibot | "king of echoooo" |
| 21:24.27 | raventh1 | heh |
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| 21:35.28 | tvanry | Is everyone asleep? |
| 21:36.30 | Tene | http://www.onelook.com/reverse-dictionary.shtml |
| 21:40.19 | levi | I'm awake. |
| 21:47.57 | redbeard2 | ~lart commencement ceremonies |
| 21:47.58 | ibot | nabs the moon and broadsides commencement ceremonies with the sea of tranquility |
| 21:56.30 | Jayce^ | ~lart red beards |
| 21:56.31 | ibot | strangles red beards with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 21:56.32 | elg | ~commence redbeard2 |
| 21:56.45 | elg | ~lart chairs that break |
| 21:56.45 | ibot | takes a big bite out of chairs that break's jugular vein |
| 21:57.06 | elg | if I didn't have 3 other (uncomfortable) chairs in here I might get a worthy replacement |
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| 22:00.29 | elg | ~blame lukfugl |
| 22:00.31 | ibot | ACTION blames lukfugl (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 22:00.51 | elg | ibot: don't forget the broken chairs! |
| 22:07.40 | lukfugl | *sniff* |
| 22:22.43 | goozbach | ~seen fozzmoo |
| 22:22.56 | ibot | fozzmoo <n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 3d 15h 47m 54s ago, saying: 'That's another thing the Olympus models have.'. |
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| 22:47.55 | sjansen | http://spewingblargh.blogspot.com/2007/04/c-is-psycho-hose-beast.html |
| 22:53.32 | elg | sjansen: funny |
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| 22:54.44 | sjansen | http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=499980&start=0&tstart=0 |
| 22:55.28 | rsimpkins | maybe only slightly useful: http://plug.org/memberindex |
| 22:55.50 | rsimpkins | Humm, yup. No sjansen. :) |
| 22:57.21 | sjansen | rsimpkins: Whoa, hang on, what's this "associate of" stuff? Seems like nothing more than official way to reveal to that no one wants to admit to knowing me. |
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| 23:00.02 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Well, just wait until I revel my next creation - a popularity poll. :) |
| 23:01.07 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Hardly anyone uses the associate stuff. |
| 23:01.21 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I ran a report today. Jayce^ is the most popular with 6 people associating with him. |
| 23:02.50 | goozbach | I didn't know that sam the dog was a living creature |
| 23:02.59 | goozbach | i thought it was a prop done up in latex |
| 23:05.51 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_(dog) |
| 23:06.23 | beandog | his death was a top headline on major news websites |
| 23:06.33 | beandog | that's not exactly ... flattering. |
| 23:10.33 | goozbach | sjansen: I have a hard time beleiving this guy on the oracle forums isnt' a troll |
| 23:10.48 | goozbach | reading through the entire thread that is |
| 23:12.31 | sjansen | goozbach: Agreed. Seemed like a masterful bit of charade to me too. |
| 23:14.42 | ringhals | any asterisk guru's in here? |
| 23:15.28 | sjansen | ringhals: Your dial plan is messed up and your firewall is blocking all SIP. |
| 23:15.53 | ringhals | ? |
| 23:16.10 | ringhals | my firewall should be blocking all sip.. |
| 23:17.12 | goozbach | ringhals: guru, poke your head into #utaug |
| 23:17.21 | goozbach | lots of em in there |
| 23:17.34 | ringhals | danka |
| 23:26.07 | sjansen | Yay, I know practically zip about asterisk but I was fool one person into thinking I did! |
| 23:26.25 | sjansen | Today, one person. Tomorrow, world domination! |
| 23:27.34 | ringhals | lol |
| 23:33.50 | harleypig | Is there an musical equivalent of a typing tutor? |
| 23:34.27 | harleypig | Like, a random note would be displayed and the user would have to play it correctly? |
| 23:40.24 | sjansen | I know there is for Windows. |
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| 23:42.21 | brac | Linux XP on a .Xdefaults file? Are your filesystem drivers built in? |
| 23:42.39 | findlay | so I go off and have a hard day and this is what I get when I come back? |
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| 23:48.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone here have MS's support number available? |
| 23:49.27 | Sargun | 1800-gah-f*ck |
| 23:49.54 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: 1-900-BUZZ-OFF |
| 23:51.50 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, What'd you do? |
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| 23:57.05 | sjansen | 1-900-GIVE-US-CASH |
| 23:57.37 | sjansen | 1-900-JUST-SIGN-OVER-YOUR-LIFE-SAVINGS-ALREADY |
| 23:58.21 | sjansen | 1-900-CASH-WE-LOVE-CASH-MORE-CASH-PRETTY-CASH-YOUR-CASH-NOW-OUR-CASH |