| 00:04.43 | levi_home | No, it recorded at the right time, but the MPEGs were full of noise. |
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| 00:33.25 | mheath_ | Well, that sucked. |
| 00:33.44 | mheath_ | I had to come home early for something I was 99% sure was going to be a BS reason. Turned out, it was BS reason :P |
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| 00:57.49 | mheath_ | Hmm. |
| 02:05.24 | elg | vontrapp: nobody does xfs but unix |
| 02:05.32 | elg | and then mostly linux and sgi |
| 02:27.13 | vontrapp | ~lynch dst |
| 02:32.13 | elg | what's DST doing to you? |
| 02:32.22 | Tene | ~dst lunch |
| 02:55.11 | levi_home | Stupid torrent. I've already uploaded twice what I've downloaded, and I'm only 187Mb into it. |
| 02:55.40 | levi_home | And the other ones are ridiculously slow. Bah. |
| 02:55.51 | Tene | ~excuse |
| 02:55.57 | ibot | [excuse] http://www.randomexcuse.com/ |
| 02:56.05 | levi_home | Why does everyone love bittorrent so much? |
| 02:56.11 | Tene | works well for me |
| 02:56.18 | Tene | I wouldn't say I "love" it, though |
| 02:57.43 | levi_home | You must download things that are currently popular. |
| 02:57.50 | Tene | Perhaps. |
| 02:58.09 | Tene | I don't really follow enough media to know the popularity of what I'm interested in. |
| 02:58.47 | levi_home | Well, the fact that bittorrent works for you suggests that the things you download are at least somewhat popular. |
| 02:58.54 | Tene | Yep. |
| 03:00.46 | levi_home | The things I want to download are just popular enough to show up on the trackers, but not popular enough to actually have a decent number of seeders. |
| 03:01.33 | Tene | ~cat5 cubey |
| 03:01.39 | ibot | ACTION forces cubey to make 3-inch length CAT5 cables with an intermittently faulty crimper. |
| 03:01.44 | Tene | ~seed cubey |
| 03:03.06 | QBFreak | the sad thing is, the tracker seems to be down more than its up |
| 03:04.18 | QBFreak | Tene: did you ever get jabber straightened out? |
| 03:05.09 | Tene | QBFreak: not really, but it works fine for the other users of the same jabber server. |
| 03:05.33 | QBFreak | who knows |
| 03:06.14 | QBFreak | I was going to tell you something, but I've forgotten what |
| 03:06.38 | Tene | you found a badger living under your sink? |
| 03:06.52 | QBFreak | well, there was that too |
| 03:07.25 | QBFreak | ohyeah, I saw Meet the Robinsons, which was pretty funny |
| 03:07.31 | QBFreak | but the interesting thing was the 3D |
| 03:08.00 | Tene | hmm? |
| 03:08.04 | QBFreak | it was projected at a double framerate with an LCD polarization filter and a set of polarized glasses |
| 03:08.11 | Tene | nifty |
| 03:08.21 | QBFreak | once my eyes stopped trying to focus, it was pretty neat |
| 03:08.32 | Tene | tip your head sideways and watch everybody turn inside-out? |
| 03:08.43 | QBFreak | I didn't try that, but I should have |
| 03:09.38 | QBFreak | from what I could tell the 3D was rather simple, just two different depths at any given time |
| 03:09.47 | Tene | huh |
| 03:10.24 | QBFreak | but I'm not sure, I didn't study it too hard |
| 03:48.38 | levi_home | I know a guy who worked on the character animation. |
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| 06:01.29 | Supaplex | -talk about april fools was |
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| 13:28.15 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The channel for OSS discussion in Utah | http://www.plug.org/node/28 | Utah Open Source Conference - September 6-8, 2007 | sjansen isn't really dead. April fools! |
| 13:29.14 | elg | levi_home: posted a reply comment on my blog. weighing does account for compression, which is the biggest factor. doesn't account for humid flour, but that's fairly constant depending on where you live |
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| 13:44.19 | ^Migs^ | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSDEL15228520070402?feedType=RSS |
| 14:09.02 | goozbach | broken ribs are NOT fun |
| 14:09.30 | jsmith | goozbach: Neither are sprained ankles |
| 14:10.47 | emcnabb | I personally dislike crushed skulls |
| 14:21.15 | elg | Don't swallow the harleypi1 |
| 14:21.26 | elg | goozbach: did you broke your ribs? or someone elses? |
| 14:23.48 | elg | anyone here speak french? |
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| 14:25.11 | goozbach | elg: I think I did |
| 14:25.19 | goozbach | crashed on my mountain bike last week |
| 14:25.41 | goozbach | landed on the handlebars |
| 14:42.42 | goozbach | jsmith: you can get off of a broken /sprained ankle, you can't really stop breathing |
| 14:44.40 | jsmith | goozbach: True, that... |
| 14:47.28 | vontrapp | goozbach: you think you did? do you plan on finding out? |
| 14:47.39 | elg | goozbach: ouch |
| 14:48.14 | elg | levi: see http://www.joyofbaking.com/flour.html at the bottom of the page |
| 14:48.17 | brac | [Flour - Joyofbaking.com] |
| 14:48.30 | elg | Flour, when packaged, has about a 14% moisture content. When stored, however, its moisture content will vary. In general, the longer flour is stored the more moisture it loses. This is why on a dry day using old flour your pastry will require more water than on a wet day using new flour. |
| 14:49.05 | elg | so maybe moisture content was a factor |
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| 15:58.12 | elg | -lart lukfugl |
| 15:58.25 | lukfugl | nooooooooo |
| 15:58.33 | elg | don't worry, IE7 has tabs |
| 15:58.40 | elg | but it breaks blackboard ;-) |
| 15:59.15 | levi | elg: Good morning. |
| 15:59.26 | lukfugl | the one good thing that can be said for IE7... "it breaks blackboard" |
| 16:00.24 | elg | heh. this paper starts off "These are contentious definitions; hopefully, this paper itself will prove far more contentious." |
| 16:00.32 | elg | http://worrydream.com/MagicInk/ |
| 16:00.34 | brac | [Magic Ink: Information Software and the Graphical Interface] |
| 16:01.59 | levi | Heh, my torrents are actually limping along this morning. |
| 16:02.43 | levi | elg: Hey, they quote SICP. |
| 16:06.52 | levi | And Linklider, too. |
| 16:08.45 | levi | Hah, I love the book parodies in the Amazon bookstore example. |
| 16:09.11 | elg | Today’s software magicians carry a burden heavier than 13-foot monoliths—communication with the living. They often approach this challenge like Geppetto’s fairy—attempting to instill the spark of life into a mechanical contraption, to create a Real Boy. Instead, their vivified creations often resemble those of Frankenstein—helpless, unhelpful, maddeningly stupid, and prone to accidental destruction. |
| 16:10.59 | levi | There's a great idea for an addition to the graphical star rating showing the proportion of voters choosing each rating. |
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| 16:13.02 | levi | Hah, I love the book parodies, too. |
| 16:13.31 | levi | Rainman Forever, Die Hard With More Intensity, Hairy Plumber and the Goomba of Doom, Rent and Rentability |
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| 16:32.06 | lukfugl | http://news.com.com/EMI%2C+Apple+partner+on+DRM-free+premium+music/2100-1027_3-6172398.html?tag=nl.e498 |
| 16:32.07 | brac | [EMI, Apple partner on DRM-free premium music | CNET News.com] |
| 16:34.13 | findlay | -chat about DRM |
| 16:34.13 | brac | DRM is bad) |
| 16:34.18 | findlay | -chat about DRM |
| 16:34.19 | brac | DRM was added later, and static didn't change anything- but when I catch him, the world did you get the tires my dad uses netscape =\ |
| 16:34.39 | findlay | -chat about Windows XP |
| 16:34.39 | brac | Windows XP administrator, hans ! |
| 16:34.45 | lukfugl | lol |
| 16:34.48 | findlay | -chat about Linux XP |
| 16:34.49 | brac | Linux XP on a THX screen |
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| 16:47.08 | levi | elg: Wow, the guy who wrote that has done all sorts of crazy cool stuff. |
| 16:47.58 | elg | heh. "A better travel guide would suggest skipping Los Angeles altogether" |
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| 16:56.47 | levi | elg: He created this device, which you might find interesting: http://www.audio-depot.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?pid=2463 |
| 16:56.50 | brac | [Audio-Depot.com DJ Gear: Alesis Micron Synthesizer--open box (mint condition)] |
| 16:56.50 | tensai | yay, my Evolution clock is finally correct |
| 16:57.02 | harleypig | This is just ... weird. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=379_1175468159 |
| 16:57.03 | brac | [LiveLeak.com - Marine Pole Dancing In Iraq] |
| 16:57.17 | harleypig | In full combat gear even. |
| 16:58.09 | levi | I won't be following /that/ link. |
| 16:58.59 | harleypig | It's just a marine in full combat gear doing a pole dance ... sheesh. You'd think I pointed you to something weird before. |
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| 17:09.09 | vontrapp | anyone have experrience with uvsc + pell grant? |
| 17:11.18 | vontrapp | my wife was awarded 850 for this year |
| 17:11.51 | vontrapp | she wasn't 'in her major' until after december |
| 17:12.56 | harleypig | lottery ticket winner get's even luckier! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e55_1173637918 |
| 17:12.58 | brac | [LiveLeak.com - Lottery ticket winner gets even luckier] |
| 17:13.17 | vontrapp | so for some silly thing about splitting the pell grant between fall and winter, she can only use half of it for this semester and, um, none of it for fall semester |
| 17:13.50 | vontrapp | so half of it is unusable |
| 17:14.22 | vontrapp | but then they say she could use it for spring |
| 17:14.40 | vontrapp | well, why not fall then? |
| 17:14.47 | harleypig | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ad_1173423045 |
| 17:14.48 | brac | [LiveLeak.com - Idiots Play Joke on Drunk Friend and OOOOPs] |
| 17:14.55 | harleypig | I call BS on this, but it's still funny to watch |
| 17:16.31 | Jayce^ | fake, but funny |
| 17:17.54 | vontrapp | er, why not winter then? |
| 17:19.13 | findlay | vontrapp: because uvsc is a joke |
| 17:20.19 | harleypig | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d341cc1c60 Holy crap! That's gonna leave a mark. |
| 17:20.21 | brac | [LiveLeak.com - Motorcycle accident...] |
| 17:26.04 | graphy1 | ouch |
| 17:28.40 | findlay | what time is it? |
| 17:28.52 | graphyx | 12:28 CDT |
| 17:28.53 | findlay | stupid clocks moved themselves forward again |
| 17:29.00 | findlay | ~lart windows for being stupid |
| 17:29.00 | ibot | drops a truckload of VAXen on windows for being stupid |
| 17:29.03 | vontrapp | so can they do that? do we have any recourse? |
| 17:29.17 | findlay | vontrapp: sounds pretty fishy to me |
| 17:29.32 | vontrapp | they soy if she doesn't use it for spring or summer it gets dissolved |
| 17:30.56 | tensai | what's that saying, "when life gives you soy, make tofu" |
| 17:31.10 | vontrapp | i don't understand why they couldn't disburse the 'unused portion' back to her |
| 17:31.36 | vontrapp | isn't that the way it goes with pell grants? |
| 17:33.05 | vontrapp | funny thing is, they say they can give her the unused portion of the unusable portion if she uses a portion of it for spring or summer |
| 17:33.20 | vontrapp | sheesh |
| 17:33.36 | vontrapp | too many portions |
| 17:34.14 | vontrapp | but she wasn't planning on going spring or summer |
| 17:35.19 | lukfugl | take a bowling class or something like that spring term |
| 17:44.22 | ^Migs^ | want to hear something messed up? You know how my in-laws are all druggies and crap, right? My youngest brother-in-law is the only one who has any sense of moral decency left. He's not really as far gone as the rest of them. He has a girlfriend that he met online. He knew her for about a year, finally she flew down from New Jersey to meet him, stayed in his house for about a week (*gasp*), and they really hit it off. She's going to move down here next w |
| 17:44.22 | ^Migs^ | eek. Now Rob (the brother-in-law) wants to move into an apartment with her, which is FINALLY his window of opportunity to get out of his crazy family that has a knack for just reeling people back in. The problem is, Rob is the breadwinner of the family. He runs his dad's business, because my dad-in-law is too dang lazy to get out of bed in the morning. Rob handles all the family finances, pays the bills, pays the mortgage, with his OWN money that he does d |
| 17:44.23 | ^Migs^ | oing his DAD's work for him, because his lazy dad won't do it. And my mom-in-law works, but she spends all HER money on drugs. Rob handles all the finances because no one else will do it. And now to save money on his parents' mortgage, he's getting the mortgage reassigned under his name, which I think is a HUGE mistake. |
| 17:45.44 | rsimpkins | Is this #daysofourlives? |
| 17:45.46 | levi | Well, if he got the title, too, he could kick the lazy bums out. |
| 17:45.53 | macnewbold | yeah, evict them :) |
| 17:45.55 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: sounds like a real-life soap oper |
| 17:45.56 | emcnabb | a |
| 17:46.04 | macnewbold | not a fun situation though |
| 17:46.06 | ^Migs^ | it kind of is |
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| 17:46.10 | ^Migs^ | and no, it's not fun |
| 17:46.11 | mrpull | holy cats |
| 17:46.20 | mrpull | I hear mheath is looking for a roommate |
| 17:46.22 | ^Migs^ | every day there's some sort of drama at their house |
| 17:46.30 | emcnabb | my inlaws (except my wife's direct family) are wacos |
| 17:46.36 | ^Migs^ | I don't think there's been a single month that's gone by where someone in their house hasn't gone to the emergency room in an ambulance |
| 17:46.43 | macnewbold | make sure he doesn't put his own credit/finances on the line, it will be a big mess if anything goes wrong, |
| 17:46.54 | macnewbold | and it sounds like it's not "if" anything goes wrong, it's "when" |
| 17:46.57 | ^Migs^ | his credit's already ruined. His mom opened a ton of credit cards in his name |
| 17:47.06 | ^Migs^ | all before he was 18, I think |
| 17:47.08 | macnewbold | then time to start cleaning it up |
| 17:47.12 | lukfugl | vontrapp: http://ifap.ed.gov/sfahandbooks/attachments/0304Vol3Ch4.pdf |
| 17:47.14 | ^Migs^ | do you realize how hard that is? |
| 17:47.20 | ^Migs^ | after all, it IS in his name. All the info checks out. |
| 17:47.56 | ^Migs^ | his two brothers just sit around all day doing nothing but playing video games or doped up on drugs |
| 17:47.59 | levi | It will be impossible as long as his mom keeps doing crap like that. |
| 17:48.00 | rsimpkins | ^Migs^: I wonder how he'll feel about owning a house seized by the police. |
| 17:48.43 | ^Migs^ | his mom is going to go to prison for life. I'm just waiting for the right moment to report all her crimes to the police. |
| 17:48.55 | ^Migs^ | and his dad could be deported, since he's an illegal immigrant |
| 17:48.58 | macnewbold | have the parents sign to refinance the house and pay off the credit card debt that is in his name... |
| 17:49.04 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 17:49.07 | ^Migs^ | his parents will never do that |
| 17:49.14 | ^Migs^ | see, that's something a RATIONAL person would do |
| 17:49.16 | macnewbold | maybe when they're high? |
| 17:49.19 | macnewbold | :) |
| 17:49.21 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 17:49.26 | ^Migs^ | not a bad idea, really |
| 17:49.41 | macnewbold | it's 100% fair and just too - they spent the money for him, so they should pay it back |
| 17:49.42 | ^Migs^ | I doubt they even know what credit card debt was fraudulently obtained |
| 17:49.51 | graphyx | who cares |
| 17:49.54 | graphyx | just sign it all |
| 17:50.07 | lukfugl | vontrapp: or in general: http://ifap.ed.gov/sfahandbooks/0304Vol3PellGrant.html |
| 17:50.08 | brac | [IFAP - Student Financial Aid Handbooks] |
| 17:50.08 | ^Migs^ | there's dysfunctional codepdency going on, too. Until Rob is out of the house for awhile, he'll never do that. |
| 17:50.14 | rsimpkins | I don't know why 'rob' cares. |
| 17:50.17 | ^Migs^ | His mom has a manipulative grip on everyone |
| 17:50.59 | rsimpkins | If rob doesn't care, he'll leave. If rob does care, he'll leave. Either way, he should be leaving, right? :) |
| 17:51.06 | ^Migs^ | I hope so |
| 17:51.20 | ^Migs^ | I have the feeling he'll end up moving back in. His older brother tried to move out, too, and he just moved back in |
| 17:51.59 | ^Migs^ | his mom's already fighting to keep him trapped. She snuck his cell phone away from him when he wasn't looking, found his girlfriend's number, called her, and told her to not call their house anymore and stay away from Rob |
| 17:52.02 | rsimpkins | Some times the best thing to do in that situation is step back and let the building collapse - just stand WAY back so you don't get hit by anything. ;) |
| 17:52.08 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 17:52.26 | ^Migs^ | first thing Rob needs to do is stop paying his parents' mortgage with his own money that he makes running his DAD'S business for him |
| 17:52.36 | ^Migs^ | they'll crash and burn because no one will handle the finances, but that's their problem |
| 17:52.58 | emcnabb | what type of business is it? |
| 17:53.05 | ^Migs^ | the only thing I don't like about that is that my two brothers-in-law are really innocent victims. Their mom is the one who keeps encouraging their drug habits, never taught them life skills, etc. |
| 17:53.06 | ^Migs^ | plumbing |
| 17:53.16 | rsimpkins | Sounds like the cycle of abuse is continuing. They all need professional help from qualified mental health professionals. |
| 17:53.23 | ^Migs^ | yes they do |
| 17:53.35 | ^Migs^ | my wife is fortunately starting to be able to cope with things now, but she still has years to go |
| 17:53.52 | ^Migs^ | see, but it's pointless to get professional help while they're still living under that roof |
| 17:54.17 | ^Migs^ | so what needs to happen is we need to get rid of mom and dad |
| 17:54.18 | rsimpkins | Sounds like they all need to work through it together. |
| 17:54.29 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: you should get rid of them |
| 17:54.34 | ^Migs^ | grandma lives with them too, but she's just an old drug addict waiting to die, pretty much. She could go live in a nursing home or something |
| 17:54.35 | emcnabb | take action! |
| 17:54.50 | emcnabb | we need more mob mentality these days |
| 17:55.02 | emcnabb | no more waiting around for someone else to get things done |
| 17:55.04 | ^Migs^ | my wife still feels the massive guilt from her mother, so I can't yet without her being mad at me. |
| 17:55.09 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 17:55.13 | ^Migs^ | I agree with emcnabb |
| 17:55.26 | ^Migs^ | it's only a matter of time |
| 17:55.34 | ^Migs^ | mom-in-law stole hundreds of dollars from us, too |
| 17:55.38 | ^Migs^ | real family of champs |
| 17:55.41 | emcnabb | make today the "time" |
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| 17:55.51 | fozzmoo | What goeth on here?! |
| 17:55.59 | ^Migs^ | I'm just venting, again |
| 17:56.09 | emcnabb | fozzmoo: we're just talking about you |
| 17:56.11 | fozzmoo | http://www.engrish.com/ && http://xkcd.com/ |
| 17:56.12 | brac | [Welcome to Engrish.com!] |
| 17:56.23 | rsimpkins | When one of my in-laws (recently) was sentanced to 1.5 years in prison for stealing a million dollars I had to make a rational decision to STAY OUT OF IT. |
| 17:56.27 | fozzmoo | Slightly racy (the latter), but good for Monday. |
| 17:56.30 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 17:56.35 | ^Migs^ | only 1.5 years? |
| 17:56.41 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: Stay out of the money? |
| 17:56.49 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: Stay out of the situation entierly. |
| 17:56.52 | fozzmoo | Ah. |
| 17:56.59 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: no opinion is the right opinion. ;) |
| 17:57.02 | ^Migs^ | we've managed to distance them quite a bit |
| 17:57.18 | ^Migs^ | but it's hard when mom-in-law keeps calling and unloading all her problems on us, making her issues our issues |
| 17:57.21 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: that's the solution; don't have anything to do with them |
| 17:57.31 | ^Migs^ | I'm encouraging my wife to just tell her to bugger off |
| 17:57.33 | emcnabb | don't pick up the phone, answer the door, etc |
| 17:57.36 | rsimpkins | Sounds like people are enabling her. |
| 17:57.58 | ^Migs^ | and I've already written an email telling her as much that I"m just itching to send, but won't do without her consent |
| 17:58.12 | ^Migs^ | well, if she tells her to bugger off, it will ignite a powder keg |
| 17:58.25 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: are your inlaws friends with the fat kid next door? |
| 17:58.26 | ^Migs^ | and my wife just got out of drug rehab, so she might not be in a position to deal with that yet |
| 17:58.41 | ^Migs^ | they're not the kind of people who "have friends" |
| 17:58.57 | rsimpkins | When my 3 year old throws a tantrum if I pay attention to him, he learns to do it again and again - and the tantrum just goes on and on. However, if I simply walk away - it stops. |
| 17:59.07 | ^Migs^ | haha, I wish my kids were like that |
| 17:59.15 | ^Migs^ | they just follow me around throwing bigger tantrums |
| 17:59.38 | rsimpkins | My kids tried that - once. |
| 17:59.38 | ^Migs^ | I still just ignore them, though |
| 18:00.07 | ^Migs^ | and no they're not friends with them |
| 18:00.16 | ^Migs^ | my neighbors are a cakewalk compared to the in-laws |
| 18:00.25 | ^Migs^ | I can tolerate my neighbors. I can't stand my in-laws. |
| 18:01.03 | ^Migs^ | I didn't know about any of this crap when I got married. They put on a REALLY good show. |
| 18:02.14 | rsimpkins | how long did you know them before you got married? |
| 18:02.30 | fozzmoo | How close do you live to your in-laws, ^Migs^? |
| 18:02.47 | ^Migs^ | um |
| 18:02.52 | ^Migs^ | about 20 minutes |
| 18:03.01 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. Maybe it's time you considered a different area code. |
| 18:03.09 | ^Migs^ | I'm not moving. They're the ones who need to move. |
| 18:03.18 | graphyx | perhaps a new country code. |
| 18:03.22 | fozzmoo | Asterisk server with caller-ID-based routing. |
| 18:03.26 | ^Migs^ | and I knew them only about 6 months |
| 18:03.47 | ^Migs^ | I was probably a little naive from being young and in love |
| 18:04.11 | fozzmoo | Problem with in-laws while you're dating their daughter is that you usually don't want them to get to you know you too much... |
| 18:04.15 | fozzmoo | because you don |
| 18:04.17 | fozzmoo | you don |
| 18:04.26 | fozzmoo | you don't want them to know you mostly just want to sleep with their daughter. |
| 18:05.00 | fozzmoo | So, yeah, that's understandable. |
| 18:05.02 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 18:05.19 | ^Migs^ | that's one problem with being a sexually repressed Utah Mormon |
| 18:05.21 | macnewbold | usually you know about crazy in-laws because they'll have a crazy daughter |
| 18:05.58 | ^Migs^ | my wife is by far the most normal one of the bunch |
| 18:06.09 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: you should move far away, even if you think they're the ones with the problems |
| 18:06.28 | ^Migs^ | no, i have a great job. My kids love my parents and vice versa. I won't deprive them of that. |
| 18:06.35 | ^Migs^ | I'd sooner get them in prison and deported than move. |
| 18:07.37 | ^Migs^ | with all the felony counts of doctor-hopping, my mom-in-law could be in prison for life |
| 18:07.51 | emcnabb | deported? |
| 18:08.02 | ^Migs^ | mom in prison, dad deported |
| 18:08.07 | ^Migs^ | I don't know how likely a deportation would be |
| 18:08.11 | emcnabb | where is dad from? |
| 18:08.12 | fozzmoo | Sounds like with patience... your problems could be solved in time. |
| 18:08.14 | vontrapp | lukfugl: so if i understand this document correctly, there is no such thing as dissolving the funds, but all of it MUST BE PAID? |
| 18:08.15 | ^Migs^ | Mexico |
| 18:08.28 | ^Migs^ | Yeah, maybe they'll see the light and get better and become a loving functional family |
| 18:08.55 | lukfugl | vontrapp: unless there's something about her courseload that is changing the award amount |
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| 18:10.56 | vontrapp | lukfugl: the awarded amount was already for part time |
| 18:10.59 | lukfugl | then yeah, it should all get paid (if I interpret the document correctly) |
| 18:11.03 | vontrapp | this will be some good ammo i think |
| 18:11.43 | lukfugl | and even if we're interpreting it wrong, then confronting them with it will clarify things for you |
| 18:12.18 | vontrapp | yeah, at the very least we will get a straight answer |
| 18:13.32 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHRyRCHuQ7g |
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| 18:14.52 | lukfugl | ^Migs^: I opened the link and closed after noticing the title -- is that SFW? |
| 18:15.01 | ^Migs^ | yes |
| 18:15.07 | ^Migs^ | youtube doesn't have porn |
| 18:15.14 | ^Migs^ | sorry, should've said SFW |
| 18:15.41 | vontrapp | lukfugl: it's some lady that feeds her 7 yr old |
| 18:15.56 | ^Migs^ | well |
| 18:15.58 | ^Migs^ | I guess it's SFW |
| 18:16.06 | ^Migs^ | I dunno, I mean it's not pornographic or anything... |
| 18:16.24 | lukfugl | ^Migs^: I disagree that youtube doesn't have porn |
| 18:16.35 | ^Migs^ | maybe I just haven't looked hard enough |
| 18:17.31 | lukfugl | I haven't looked and have came across stuff unintentionally that's pretty bad. only "softcore", but still... |
| 18:19.04 | levi | Yow, the kids have named their mother's breasts. |
| 18:19.11 | ^Migs^ | haha I know |
| 18:19.19 | ^Migs^ | I think the kids are too old when they are able to do that |
| 18:20.29 | elg | wow, long paper. but good paper |
| 18:20.47 | lukfugl | elg: which paper? |
| 18:20.49 | levi | elg: I had to give up reading and start skimming. But yeah, it looked really good. |
| 18:22.06 | lukfugl | vontrapp: one thing to note: that document I linked you to is for Award Year 2003-2004. But I doubt things have changed much... |
| 18:29.07 | elg | lukfugl: http://worrydream.com/MagicInk/ |
| 18:29.10 | brac | [Magic Ink: Information Software and the Graphical Interface] |
| 18:29.55 | levi | elg: Did you look at the link for the synthesizer he made? |
| 18:37.39 | ^Migs^ | an email my wife just got from her mom: http://www.pastebin.ca/421222 |
| 18:38.49 | ^Migs^ | I hate these guilt trips she tries to play |
| 18:38.58 | graphyx | wow |
| 18:39.11 | ^Migs^ | what kind of retard types in all caps? |
| 18:39.28 | macnewbold | one that doesn't know about the caps lock key? |
| 18:39.38 | ^Migs^ | yeah, nice thing at the end there, too. I hope i don't have to commit suicide just so you'll love me. |
| 18:40.07 | graphyx | at least it is uniform and didn't have sections that say hmmmm it is typing in big letters now, why is it doing that? |
| 18:40.26 | mrpull | I wish RT's stats were a little better |
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| 18:41.06 | vontrapp | ^Migs^: point out to your wife how it's all focused on guilt, that the purpose for each sentance is clearly for making bad feelings, NOT forgiveness and love |
| 18:41.13 | ^Migs^ | She knows that already |
| 18:41.49 | ^Migs^ | but she was raised from birth to feel tremendous guilt if she ever disobeyed her mother |
| 18:41.49 | ^Migs^ | an abnormal level of guilt |
| 18:42.02 | ^Migs^ | I don't know why she points out she goes to church. She does that often. And she doesn't go to church. I'm not sure what she's trying to prove. |
| 18:42.51 | ^Migs^ | and "DAD" is an abusive father who will only turn on my kids at some point, if I let him be around them, and probably abuse them too. |
| 18:47.27 | ^Migs^ | He already has, somewhat. |
| 18:47.39 | graphyx | how long you been married? |
| 18:47.47 | ^Migs^ | almost 6 years |
| 18:48.05 | graphyx | And I thought that I had issues with my in laws. |
| 18:48.11 | graphyx | glad I don't |
| 18:48.56 | ^Migs^ | it's really sad. Grandparents are supposed to be the kind of people, who although they may have problems, kids can enjoy seeing. Right now my kids are oblivious to this whole situation, of course, and they don't always understand why we can't go see them. |
| 18:49.19 | graphyx | how old are the kids? |
| 18:49.27 | ^Migs^ | 4 and 2 |
| 18:53.46 | levi | elg: Here's some good stuff to look at when you're bored. All the Turing Award winners along with their Turing Award lectures: http://awards.acm.org/homepage.cfm?srt=all&awd=140 |
| 18:55.13 | levi | Well, I guess they don't all have lecture links. |
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| 20:11.25 | tensai | farscape is a 10 disc set. wow. is it any good? |
| 20:13.29 | goozbach | farscape is a VERY good show |
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| 20:15.59 | tensai | crap. not enough room to add season 3 and 4 to my queue |
| 20:16.08 | tensai | ~lart netflix queue limits |
| 20:16.08 | ibot | whacks netflix queue limits with a giant beaver's tail |
| 20:16.43 | Jayce^ | tensai, good, was a big download :) |
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| 20:49.43 | goozbach | anyone here have an opinion about Chase bank? |
| 20:50.02 | goozbach | or how about UMB? |
| 20:50.10 | goozbach | or First Horizon? |
| 20:50.54 | fozzmoo | As long as they're not Bank Of America, I'm all in favor of them. |
| 20:51.40 | goozbach | if only America First CU did health savings accounts |
| 21:02.57 | emcnabb | goozbach: I canceled my Chase CC this weekend (but I hardly ever used it anyway) |
| 21:03.06 | emcnabb | I never had any problems with them |
| 21:11.35 | maquis | emcnabb: see PM |
| 21:12.32 | emcnabb | maquis: haha, funny |
| 21:13.00 | maquis | :) |
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| 21:57.10 | mrpull | http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/01/ballhype-launches-sports-fanatics-will-love-this/ |
| 21:57.12 | brac | [BallHype Launches - Sports Fanatics Will Love This] |
| 21:57.19 | mrpull | wow. a digg clone that is actually cool |
| 21:57.20 | mrpull | (to me) |
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| 22:20.23 | findlay | howcome maquis never PM's me funny stuff? |
| 22:20.23 | findlay | I feel discriminated against |
| 22:20.24 | mheath_ | Wow. |
| 22:20.24 | mheath_ | Erm.. |
| 22:20.24 | findlay | ~eat mheath_ |
| 22:20.25 | ibot | ACTION eats mheath_ and falls over dead |
| 22:20.25 | mheath_ | ~pm findlay funny |
| 22:20.26 | mheath_ | ~msg findlay funny |
| 22:20.28 | brac | Linux XP on a RAID array |
| 22:20.28 | mheath_ | WTF? |
| 22:20.28 | mheath_ | Its like a brac-ibot hybrid |
| 22:20.28 | mheath_ | ibot spouting random BS |
| 22:20.30 | lukfugl | mheath_: multiple onjoins as a result of the recent netsplit |
| 22:20.30 | Lone_Wanderer | It's just doing all of its onjoin messages at once because of the netsplit |
| 22:21.00 | brac | ibot eats spr and falls over in Iraq? |
| 22:21.28 | findlay | heh |
| 22:21.29 | lukfugl | lol |
| 22:21.51 | findlay | maybe you can tell ibot to say stuff from PMs |
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| 22:26.14 | findlay | ~regex pmcnabb |
| 22:42.45 | findlay | ~regex pmcnabb |
| 22:42.46 | ibot | ACTION matches pmcnabb in a dazzling display of arcane regularly expressive magic and madness |
| 22:45.20 | vontrapp | haha, this splitting up the pell grant thing was all just a bunch of BS to cover their butts because something slipped through the cracks |
| 22:46.23 | vontrapp | still not resolved, though |
| 22:46.29 | Tene | synic: ping |
| 22:47.05 | vontrapp | she was taking a level 2 dance class and got bumped up into the level three class |
| 22:47.16 | synic | Tene: yo |
| 22:47.40 | tensai | ~tell findlay about regex |
| 22:47.45 | vontrapp | the teacher of the class never updated the enrollment, and she never got a grade |
| 22:47.53 | vontrapp | this was in the fall |
| 22:48.01 | findlay | ~tell tensai about regex |
| 22:48.11 | Tene | synic: in one of your blog posts, you've linked to http://synic.ath.cx/vim.png but I wasn't able to connect to the server when you first posted it, and I still can't. |
| 22:48.13 | lukfugl | ~lart uvsc/u |
| 22:48.14 | ibot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays uvsc/u in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 22:48.37 | synic | Tene: one sec. |
| 22:48.47 | Tene | Thought you might want to know. |
| 22:48.54 | vontrapp | now she's been bugging the teacher all semester to get the grade, and even talked to a department person who has bugged the teacher |
| 22:49.41 | findlay | vontrapp: leave it to me. I'll throw my weight around ... with a air-compression water gun |
| 22:49.45 | vontrapp | she still doesn't have a grade, and as such shouldn't have been elligable |
| 22:50.25 | vontrapp | hence the half/half BS when she actually did get awarded |
| 22:50.40 | vontrapp | findlay: you're in the dance dep.? |
| 22:50.49 | synic | Tene: I've updated it to http://binary.twi.gs/vim.png |
| 22:50.54 | findlay | vontrapp: no. I was trying to be funny, sorry |
| 22:51.00 | findlay | didn't really work |
| 22:51.37 | vontrapp | well that's because you don't have weight |
| 22:51.41 | brac | well that's too bad. |
| 22:51.47 | findlay | it is |
| 22:51.51 | vontrapp | now if it were harleypig ... |
| 22:52.05 | findlay | -chat about harleypig |
| 22:52.05 | brac | harleypig went to a daemon |
| 22:52.13 | findlay | hm |
| 22:52.17 | vontrapp | needless to say, she hates that teacher |
| 22:52.39 | vontrapp | and she hates school now and wants to drop out :( |
| 22:52.41 | lukfugl | -chat about uvsc |
| 22:52.41 | brac | uvsc was |
| 22:52.51 | lukfugl | -chat about uvsc is |
| 22:52.51 | brac | uvsc is aiming at, seems like you need to make it sound unterrible. |
| 22:53.06 | lukfugl | brac: is that possible? |
| 22:53.06 | brac | ...eh? |
| 22:53.16 | lukfugl | brac: can you make uvsc sound unterrible? |
| 22:53.16 | brac | who knows? |
| 22:53.42 | lukfugl | brac: how about making it taste unterrible? |
| 22:53.42 | brac | who knows? |
| 22:53.48 | lukfugl | good lot of help you are |
| 22:53.54 | findlay | brac: who knows? |
| 22:53.54 | brac | no clue |
| 23:01.39 | Tene | http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/02itunes.html |
| 23:06.12 | elg | ~praise EMI |
| 23:06.14 | ibot | All hail EMI! |
| 23:12.46 | tensai | electro-magnetic interference? |
| 23:14.33 | vontrapp | elephant mating instructions? |
| 23:16.49 | Tene | elg: apparently, they're only offering non-drm'ed files at twice the bitrate of files they normally sell. |
| 23:16.52 | findlay | no, it's elliptical meister inductance |
| 23:17.02 | Tene | 256kbps AAC instead of 128 |
| 23:23.57 | elg | Tene: and that's bad? |
| 23:24.20 | elg | levi: good read http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/YouAndYourResearch.html |
| 23:24.22 | brac | [You and Your Research] |
| 23:24.32 | elg | and anyone else who likes research |
| 23:24.38 | elg | or just doing great things |
| 23:25.28 | Tene | elg: from what I've heard, audio quality doesn't improve much discernably when you go over 128k |
| 23:26.19 | levi | Ahh, Richard Hamming, of Hamming Code fame. |
| 23:27.38 | levi | Definitely someone to listen to on the subject of research. |
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| 23:30.32 | bonez39 | elg, any idea why printing a text document with enscript...to a laser printer would print fine..without truncating the side margins, while printing same doc to a deskjet....would truncate the sides? |
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| 23:50.38 | elg | Tene: you've been hanging out with the wrong friends then |
| 23:51.30 | Tene | elg: so tell me why I should believe otherwise. Tell me your opinion on the subject. |
| 23:51.46 | elg | my opinion is that 128 kbps is a compromise |
| 23:52.32 | levi | I /think/ I've heard compression artifacts in 128kbps mp3s, but I'm not certain that's the source of what I heard. |
| 23:52.52 | elg | you should believe me because I've had 3 semesters of DSP and toyed with digital audio for years |
| 23:53.13 | Tene | levi: AAC, not mp3 |
| 23:53.32 | elg | but lacking that, you can not believe me and be content knowing that increasing the bitrate can only help, at the expense of a little disk space |
| 23:53.32 | Tene | elg: I'd like more information on how 128 kbps is a compromise. |
| 23:53.50 | elg | Tene: ok, go study the algorithm and come back and tell me why it isn't |
| 23:54.55 | elg | you don't have to believe me, and I don't much care if you do. I for one will be happy to buy DRM-free music at a higher bitrate |
| 23:55.31 | levi | Tene: 128k AAC is probably better than 128k mp3, but you've still only got 128kbits/s to work with. |
| 23:55.49 | harleypig | Anybody know of a decent checklist for setting up an online store using a dropshipper? |
| 23:55.50 | elg | bonez39: different printers have different capabilities. some can't get quite to the edge |
| 23:55.55 | brac | Anybody know of is that openbsd has standards |
| 23:56.01 | Tene | elg: I'm not challenging you, I'm curious about what you have to say. |
| 23:56.21 | harleypig | So far I have "incorporate", "find decent dropshipper", "build web page" |
| 23:56.34 | harleypig | Find attorney and cpa should be on there too I guess. |
| 23:56.38 | levi | Tene: Any lossy encoding is a compromise of some sort. |
| 23:56.39 | elg | aac is lossy. better than mp3 but still lossy |
| 23:56.41 | vontrapp | compromise == a balance between noticeble gain and increased disk space |
| 23:57.01 | elg | the more bits the less loss. more bits means less loss |
| 23:57.08 | elg | it's a straightforward relation |
| 23:57.29 | elg | the compromise is that maybe 128 is good enough. doesn't mean more is not better |
| 23:57.39 | levi | The bit rate that is 'good enough' will depend on a lot of factors. |
| 23:57.50 | elg | maybe you wouldn't hear unless you were an audiophile with audiophile headphones, but there will be a difference |
| 23:57.59 | vontrapp | mmm, vbr |
| 23:58.03 | elg | unless of course 128kbps is enough bandwidth to encode the original signal perfectly |
| 23:58.18 | elg | which it may be for some signals, but not the ones of interst |
| 23:58.34 | vontrapp | as it is with silence :) |
| 23:58.48 | elg | except that one song. 4'22" I think it's called |
| 23:59.03 | elg | you can't hear the ghosts breathing unless it's lossless |
| 23:59.04 | levi | harleypig: Can one make a reasonable amount of money with that kind of business? |
| 23:59.26 | elg | depends on what you dropship |
| 23:59.30 | harleypig | For relative values of reasonable. |
| 23:59.38 | harleypig | You have to go to a *real* dropshipper. |
| 23:59.41 | jnbek | i find 192 oggs and 256 mp3s sound the best, 128 AAC is comparable to those rates, as far as I can tell, and I record guitar tracks for my band all the time, on 192 oggs I can hear my fingers moving on the strings while playing |
| 23:59.50 | jnbek | my $.02 |
| 23:59.51 | harleypig | Not a middleman who claims to be a dropshipper. |
