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| 00:20.19 | elg | why can't I get a neat kiss, just once?! |
| 00:20.24 | elg | or maybe a focus-follows-lips kiss |
| 00:20.37 | tene | "focus-follows-lips"? |
| 00:21.41 | elg | try moving your head around when your wife kisses you welcome home tonight |
| 00:21.45 | elg | it works |
| 00:22.01 | elg | i doubt ibot has that talent though |
| 00:22.42 | tene | That would work if I had a wife. I was more just asking about the odd choice of name. |
| 00:24.55 | elg | well there's sloppy focus |
| 00:24.57 | elg | windows focus |
| 00:25.01 | elg | and focus-follows mouse |
| 00:29.00 | macnewbold | sloppy focus is awesome |
| 00:35.02 | levi | I'm less of a fan of sloppy focus than I used to be. |
| 00:36.06 | tene | why? |
| 00:36.12 | macnewbold | levi, what do you prefer instead? yeah, and why? |
| 00:38.17 | scott_ | diff between sloppy and focus follows is that sloppy will keep focus in window as long as hasn't entered another window? |
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| 00:38.38 | levi | Well, I had some issues with it interacting badly with switching focus with the keyboard. It may have been a problem with the particular window manager I was using at the time. But I use click-to-focus now. |
| 00:38.39 | levi | It keeps things consistent across the platforms I use. |
| 00:39.18 | scott_ | the problem I have with not-click to focus is that if you accidently bump the mouse you're typing goes to the wrong window. |
| 00:39.27 | scott_ | s/your |
| 00:40.29 | macnewbold | yeah, it is true. It could be terrible with one of those touchpad thingies that never seem to know when I'm not really intending to touch them. But with a normal mouse, I keep it off to the side so it doesn't get bumped |
| 00:40.33 | tene | which wm, levi? |
| 00:40.42 | macnewbold | just make sure not to send your password into an irc channel on accident or anything |
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| 00:41.23 | tene | I rather like e17's "move the cursor to the window you're selecting when you switch windows with the keyboard" feature, on a related subject |
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| 00:42.10 | levi | tene: I don't remember. |
| 00:42.22 | tene | levi: kk |
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| 00:42.53 | elg | oh, I don't. can't stand it when the wm moves my mous |
| 00:43.13 | Sargun | WM? |
| 00:43.16 | Sargun | ah |
| 00:43.20 | Sargun | which WM are you using? |
| 00:43.42 | elg | me? aqua |
| 00:43.54 | elg | it doesn't do sloppy focus, alas. but that doesn't really work with the menus-on-top |
| 00:44.08 | elg | and I really don't miss it because of the unparallelled keyboard manipulation |
| 00:44.36 | elg | i'm still amazed at how osx has keyboard manipulation done so much better than linux. i thought the linux geeks were the ultimate "no mousing" types |
| 00:44.45 | elg | and i would have figured os x was all about the mouse |
| 00:44.49 | elg | i would have been wrong |
| 00:45.07 | Sargun | XGL helps with that. |
| 00:45.16 | elg | the kb? |
| 00:45.40 | Sargun | With having mouse-less navigation |
| 00:45.42 | Sargun | of the desktop |
| 01:00.21 | SpecialZ | elg: You must be using a different OS X than I have. I know how to do app and window switching, but window movement and resizing? Getting to menu's and radio buttons? |
| 01:01.39 | SpecialZ | I suppose there's Expose off the function keys |
| 01:08.10 | scott_ | I think there's an accessibility option that makes navigating controls much better |
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| 01:08.45 | scott_ | what I can't believe OSX doesn't have is full screen, and if I remember correctly it doesn't have maximize in two dimensions either |
| 01:09.24 | scott_ | quicksilver helps a lot for mouseless computer use, but not in the window management arena |
| 01:09.56 | ScytheBlade1 | There's an option in the Keyboard section of Settings which enables full keyboard shortcut access |
| 01:10.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Why that's not enabled by default is beyond me, but just fyi |
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| 01:10.47 | Sargun | nick125, hey |
| 01:10.48 | Sargun | nick125_lappy, hey |
| 01:10.54 | nick125_lappy | hi |
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| 01:44.16 | twob | Is there a way to force X to render the font at a larger size for regular menu and other text? an xorg.conf or .xsession conf option? I can't imagine there isn't but I'm not finding anything on google |
| 01:44.54 | twob | file, edit, view, and so on in anything from an xterm to firefox |
| 01:52.19 | tene | argh |
| 01:52.49 | tene | I can't find any difference between these two users, and yet samba is segfaulting when I try to log in as one of them. |
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| 03:03.47 | elg | sargun-screen: I don't see how xgl helps with keyboard navigation |
| 03:12.29 | ti`ocpi | hello all :) |
| 03:13.00 | ti`ocpi | and now I watch movies |
| 03:13.01 | ti`ocpi | byebye |
| 03:13.09 | elg | tease |
| 03:13.25 | ti`ocpi | sowwy |
| 03:13.36 | elg | at least tell us what movie |
| 03:14.33 | ti`ocpi | Nausicaa |
| 03:15.18 | elg | aren't those tall ugly aliens on star trek? |
| 03:15.46 | ti`ocpi | o_O |
| 03:15.54 | ti`ocpi | Nausicaa of the valley of the wind |
| 03:15.57 | ti`ocpi | it's by Miyazaki |
| 03:16.01 | ti`ocpi | anime |
| 03:16.34 | elg | ah. so a bit uglier |
| 03:18.18 | elg | anybody have Sunshine on Leith? |
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| 04:22.30 | findlay | hello |
| 04:22.35 | findlay | this is IRC |
| 04:50.48 | rsimpkins | Does anyone in here used linkedin much? |
| 04:56.30 | elg | i use it not much |
| 04:57.41 | findlay | rsimpkins: I have an account, although I don't use it much |
| 04:57.56 | rsimpkins | findlay: Is there a secret to building up your network? |
| 04:58.09 | rsimpkins | Or rather, is there much of an advantage to doing so? |
| 04:58.49 | findlay | well, linkedin isn't going to be the complete solution to your networking needs |
| 04:59.17 | findlay | I find the old traditional way of getting to know people is infinitely more effectual |
| 04:59.30 | findlay | just think of it as a tool, that may or may not help |
| 04:59.31 | rsimpkins | findlay: I'm rather new to it, but I'm impressed with how many people I know on the site. |
| 04:59.43 | rsimpkins | Just none of them are in my network. |
| 04:59.54 | rsimpkins | The site wants me to put in their e-mail addresses to contact them. |
| 05:00.03 | rsimpkins | I'm not so sure that would be polite. |
| 05:00.19 | findlay | maybe you can ask them first |
| 05:01.13 | rsimpkins | When I first joined and added my experience it let me choose several people to invite to link in. |
| 05:01.28 | rsimpkins | I've just been unable to figure out how to get back to that section. |
| 05:01.43 | findlay | the site can be difficult to navigate |
| 05:01.53 | rsimpkins | No doubt about it. |
| 05:02.15 | rsimpkins | I'm just wondering if there are 'linkedin' junkies out there that know the ins and outs. |
| 05:03.08 | rsimpkins | nm, i found the stupid screen again. :0 |
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| 05:11.29 | linuxalien | Are you guys awake? |
| 05:12.30 | rsimpkins | linuxalien: Only partially. |
| 05:12.59 | linuxalien | I know the feeling |
| 05:16.40 | levi_home | I am awake. |
| 05:19.40 | levi_home | ti`ocpi: Nausicaa is one of my favorite Miyazaki films. |
| 05:20.08 | ti`ocpi | yay! |
| 05:20.13 | ti`ocpi | I'm glad I'm not alone :D |
| 05:21.37 | levi_home | I think I first saw it as a fansub in Real Media format. :) |
| 05:21.56 | levi_home | I had a roommate who obsessively downloaded stuff. |
| 05:22.06 | tensai | nausicaa is good. I think my favorite still totoro. |
| 05:23.50 | levi_home | My wife was a passionate Anime hater until I showed her Howl's Moving Castle, after which she softened a bit. :) |
| 05:24.25 | tensai | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110008/ |
| 05:24.26 | brac | [Heisei tanuki gassen pompoko (1994)] |
| 05:24.32 | tensai | ever seen this one? |
| 05:25.26 | levi_home | Nope. |
| 05:25.28 | tensai | I loved it |
| 05:25.32 | levi_home | I haven't seen a whole lot of them. |
| 05:27.50 | tensai | there's a whole mythology around tanuki in japan |
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| 13:54.00 | goozbach | pineapple |
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| 15:02.46 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 15:03.16 | elg | -chat |
| 15:03.17 | brac | our local tcl/expect expert came by and see if I do that |
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| 16:18.12 | elg | i like cashews but they're just not the same as peanuts in trail mix |
| 16:18.23 | elg | maybe they'd be closer if they were salted |
| 16:25.01 | elg | findlay: this one's for you http://www.theonion.com/content/node/53278 |
| 16:27.24 | elg | the article has some language, but you get the gist if you just read the first few paragraphs |
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| 16:33.29 | levi | Mmmm, cashews. |
| 16:33.43 | levi | And peanuts in trail mix. |
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| 16:42.19 | soybueno | hello |
| 16:43.00 | harleypig | You're all twinkies. |
| 16:43.15 | redbeard1 | harleypig: fried twinkies? |
| 16:43.25 | redbeard1 | or only when we're on cold medicine? |
| 16:43.31 | harleypig | Deep fried. |
| 16:43.34 | soybueno | m,ashdñljkhfdsa |
| 16:43.46 | soybueno | aky en español ehn ole |
| 16:43.51 | redbeard1 | deep fried is the only way to enjoy a twinkie |
| 16:43.52 | soybueno | ole ole ole!!! |
| 16:43.56 | soybueno | paella |
| 16:44.05 | soybueno | flamenco!!! OLE!!! |
| 16:44.05 | redbeard1 | mmm, paella |
| 16:44.10 | harleypig | http://www.twinkiesproject.com/ |
| 16:44.11 | brac | [The T.W.I.N.K.I.E.S. Project] |
| 16:44.36 | soybueno | what name redbeard1 |
| 16:44.49 | redbeard1 | what name? |
| 16:45.08 | soybueno | what is your name¿? |
| 16:45.18 | redbeard1 | joseph |
| 16:45.33 | soybueno | where are you from? |
| 16:45.41 | redbeard1 | um. utah... |
| 16:46.22 | harleypig | soybueno: where are you from? |
| 16:46.25 | soybueno | I live on Barcelona |
| 16:46.51 | redbeard1 | soybueno, i figured you were probably in spain, with all the paella and all |
| 16:47.06 | harleypig | Interesinting. How'd you find #utah? |
| 16:47.06 | soybueno | XD |
| 16:47.10 | harleypig | err ... |
| 16:47.14 | harleypig | Interesting. |
| 16:47.21 | soybueno | with /list |
| 16:47.33 | soybueno | yes |
| 16:47.35 | harleypig | :D |
| 16:47.41 | levi | What made you want to join #utah? |
| 16:47.52 | elg | he came to see harleypig's beard |
| 16:48.02 | levi | Oh, that makes sense. |
| 16:48.10 | harleypig | :)# |
| 16:48.13 | soybueno | that's right |
| 16:48.16 | soybueno | XD |
| 16:48.34 | harleypig | meh ... with the stoopid smiley icon that doesn't work ... how about :]# |
| 16:48.41 | harleypig | there we go. |
| 16:48.59 | redbeard1 | O_o |
| 16:49.06 | harleypig | o_O |
| 16:49.07 | redbeard1 | o_O |
| 16:49.18 | redbeard1 | jinx! |
| 16:49.22 | soybueno | someone here plays guild wars? |
| 16:50.35 | elg | i bet you do |
| 16:50.42 | elg | so yes |
| 16:50.59 | soybueno | ;) |
| 16:52.29 | soybueno | The domain of torment is not posible to get through |
| 16:54.53 | soybueno | ?¿ |
| 16:54.59 | redbeard1 | soybueno, i heard that paella is the national dish of spain, is that true? |
| 16:56.07 | soybueno | no but is the most known |
| 16:56.31 | redbeard1 | maybe that's why some people think it's the national dish |
| 16:56.43 | redbeard1 | does spain have a national dish? |
| 16:57.06 | soybueno | other are jamon iberico, tortilla de patata |
| 16:57.11 | soybueno | ... etc |
| 16:57.20 | redbeard1 | jamon.. is that ham? |
| 16:58.01 | soybueno | our national dish is bull tail |
| 16:58.18 | redbeard1 | mmm, bull tail |
| 16:58.37 | soybueno | good bye |
| 16:58.52 | soybueno | gotta go |
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| 16:59.27 | elg | o/~ voy caminando en la lluvia solo a mojarme a proposito |
| 16:59.37 | ^Migs^ | omg, I just spent all morning trying to fix my network connection. I'm now on expert on Linux network administration |
| 16:59.58 | redbeard1 | ^Migs^: expert meaning you know more than anyone else in the office? |
| 17:00.12 | ^Migs^ | well, no |
| 17:00.25 | ^Migs^ | compared to what I knew 3 hours ago, I am now an expert |
| 17:00.33 | redbeard1 | fair enough |
| 17:00.37 | levi | Expert meaning 'I know just enough to be dangerous now!' |
| 17:00.52 | ^Migs^ | bwahahaha |
| 17:00.54 | elg | expert meaning 'Everbody to the bomb shelter!' |
| 17:01.17 | elg | there went soybueno. he was good |
| 17:01.33 | redbeard1 | soybueno was fun, but i don't think he likes me |
| 17:02.13 | elg | how could he? you don't speak spanish |
| 17:02.30 | elg | ~feed nick125_lappy |
| 17:02.31 | ibot | ACTION offers nick125_lappy some herring |
| 17:02.43 | redbeard1 | i used to like paella |
| 17:09.03 | nick125_lappy | nooo |
| 17:09.24 | nick125_lappy | alaska is cold :( |
| 17:11.44 | ^Migs^ | I won 100 Winzy points this morning |
| 17:14.32 | ^Migs^ | wtf, someone hacked my ebay account |
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| 17:15.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Best Weather Ever |
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| 17:39.45 | levi | This weather sucks. I have to drive down to UVSC this evening. |
| 17:39.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Nononono. |
| 17:39.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Best Weather Ever. |
| 17:40.06 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: You are insane. |
| 17:40.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Minnesota: Our state bird is the loon for a reason. |
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| 17:43.15 | tensai | I hear that jamon iberico is absolutely divine and equally expensive |
| 17:43.19 | tensai | would love to try it some day |
| 17:43.24 | Lone_Wanderer | what is it? |
| 17:43.34 | tensai | cured ham |
| 17:43.39 | tensai | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam33n_ib3%A9rico |
| 17:44.02 | tensai | that link looks funny |
| 17:44.32 | tensai | ~wiki jamon iberico |
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| 17:58.03 | herlo | opinions? http://kaybee.org:8080/~kirk/GPL.html |
| 18:00.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Cpt. Kirk < Cpt. Picard |
| 18:00.38 | QBFreak | anyone want to buy me some eSATA cables? :) |
| 18:01.00 | Lone_Wanderer | I do! |
| 18:02.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Unfortunately, my financial advisor won't let me :( |
| 18:04.27 | findlay | ~split net |
| 18:04.46 | findlay | ~netsplit |
| 18:04.47 | ibot | [netsplit] something that happens when two IRC servers lose their link, thus isolating the users on every side from each other. a normal part of ALL irc networks, despite what some people bitching about larger networks may seem to think, or an orchestra of poips and thwoops, or something which occurs frequently on OPN |
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| 18:10.48 | jsmith | Lone_Wanderer: Cpt. Kirk < Cpt. Archer |
| 18:11.07 | goozbach | netsplit! |
| 18:11.20 | Lone_Wanderer | who's Cpt. Archer? |
| 18:11.23 | ^Migs^ | netsplit warriors, AWAY! |
| 18:11.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Take off every zig? |
| 18:12.12 | ^Migs^ | heh, I never actually knew what caused netsplits all these years. Never really cared. But now I know. |
| 18:12.15 | ^Migs^ | And knowing is half the battle. |
| 18:12.42 | harleypig | compelling arguments for BSD and/or MIT license preference |
| 18:13.47 | nick125_lappy | later guys, I'm going to be out of town for the next two days, but, hopefully, I'll have wifi access |
| 18:14.19 | Lone_Wanderer | mmmm, Tori Amos. The original Angry Woman pop star. |
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| 18:17.49 | elg | ~ski vontrapp_ |
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| 18:33.46 | macnewbold | well, UofU just announced they're closing at noon cause of the snowstorm |
| 18:36.28 | ^Migs^ | where's you hear that from macnewbold? |
| 18:36.30 | ^Migs^ | *where'd |
| 18:36.51 | elg | wow, really? it's snowing that much? |
| 18:36.55 | elg | -metar kslc |
| 18:36.59 | macnewbold | forwarded email from Pres. Michael K. Young |
| 18:37.01 | brac | couldn't find weather data for KSLC |
| 18:37.03 | ^Migs^ | the snow stopped up there |
| 18:37.09 | elg | ~weather kslc |
| 18:37.14 | elg | -weather kpvu |
| 18:37.16 | brac | 2 minutes ago, on Tue Feb 27 18:35:00 UTC 2007, the wind was blowing at a speed of 5.14 meters per second (11.51 miles per hour) from the Northwest at KPVU. The temperature was -1 degrees Celsius (30 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1006 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 80.0%. There were broken clouds at a height of 1036 meters (3400 feet), broken clouds at a |
| 18:37.17 | brac | height of 1280 meter (4200 feet) and overcast clouds at a height of 1463 meters (4800 feet). |
| 18:37.31 | elg | ibot says it's trace precipitation |
| 18:37.53 | macnewbold | "In light of the heavy snow storm and attendant traffic and safety |
| 18:37.53 | macnewbold | concerns, the University will close as of noon." |
| 18:38.12 | tensai | we got 4-5 inches at my house |
| 18:38.16 | ^Migs^ | is that an actual quote or are you just making it up? |
| 18:38.22 | tensai | which is in idaho, of course |
| 18:38.29 | ^Migs^ | is that the WHOLE University? |
| 18:38.36 | ^Migs^ | cuz my friend says his lab is pretty much separate from the rest of the campus |
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| 18:38.55 | macnewbold | ^Migs^: that's the real deal |
| 18:39.09 | ^Migs^ | if it was real, you'd say where the quote originated. |
| 18:39.28 | elg | 11:36 < macnewbold> forwarded email from Pres. Michael K. Young |
| 18:39.33 | ^Migs^ | oh |
| 18:39.39 | ^Migs^ | hehe, nm |
| 18:39.50 | macnewbold | http://pastebin.ca/374616 |
| 18:39.54 | macnewbold | there's the whole thing |
| 18:40.26 | ^Migs^ | thank you |
| 18:40.32 | elg | you're welcome |
| 18:40.42 | ^Migs^ | not you |
| 18:41.03 | macnewbold | ~bonk ^Migs^ for ingratitude |
| 18:41.04 | ibot | ACTION bonks ^Migs^ for ingratitude over the head |
| 18:41.51 | elg | not automated, too slow for that (or else it's pretending to be not automated and therefore really hindering its throughput) |
| 18:42.07 | elg | i delete them just as fast as they get put up because jabber tells me |
| 18:42.33 | elg | i could try out the new blacklist feature, but it's fun to see what they come up with for supposedly-on-topic content |
| 18:42.36 | levi | elg: There was a lot more than trace precipitation going on. |
| 18:43.02 | elg | i figured. he's probably using old data |
| 18:43.24 | elg | hm, no only 20 minutes old. maybe the snow let up? |
| 18:43.45 | levi | Could be. |
| 18:44.35 | levi | Yeah, it let up quite a bit, but it dumped a LOT in a short amount of time. |
| 18:45.09 | levi | Several inches in just a few hours. |
| 18:45.52 | macnewbold | yeah, and it is supposed to keep coming (off and on at least) until 4-5pm |
| 18:49.01 | findlay | and all we get is some silly rain |
| 18:49.36 | findlay | ~rain |
| 18:49.38 | ibot | Seattle has too much of it this year! |
| 18:49.38 | elg | -metar klru |
| 18:49.39 | brac | couldn't find weather data for KLRU |
| 18:49.45 | elg | man the nws is still having issues |
| 18:49.48 | elg | -weather klru |
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| 18:49.57 | sjansen | http://www.cafepress.com/mjg59.13071097 |
| 18:49.58 | brac | 17 minutes ago, on Tue Feb 27 18:33:00 UTC 2007, the wind was calm at KLRU. The temperature was 18 degrees Celsius (64 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1015 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 25.6%. The sky was clear. |
| 18:49.58 | elg | ~weather sjansen |
| 18:50.03 | findlay | ~rain on sjansen |
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| 18:50.24 | ^Migs^ | it's weird how some people on the other side of the U.S. know that the U of U is closing before some of the U of U students do |
| 18:50.25 | elg | ~smack vontrapp |
| 18:50.26 | ibot | ACTION smacks vontrapp upside the head. |
| 18:50.55 | macnewbold | yeah, they don't have a good P.A. system on campus really |
| 18:51.22 | macnewbold | the ones I feel worst for are the ones who try to make it up there for their 12:30pm or 1pm class, only to find that it is cancelled and they have to go back again |
| 18:52.05 | ^Migs^ | my friend has a seminar at noon. He thinks it's still going to be on |
| 18:52.14 | elg | sucker |
| 18:52.36 | ^Migs^ | his department is apparently immune to the effects of snow |
| 18:54.51 | ^Migs^ | how do I make an XML schema be an element in another schema? |
| 18:55.02 | ^Migs^ | oops |
| 18:55.19 | elg | careful. you'll give sjansen nightmares |
| 18:56.28 | findlay | do you use scheme? |
| 18:56.28 | levi | Sweet, a dynamically-balancing walking bipedal robot: http://paulgraham.com/anybots.html |
| 18:56.30 | findlay | hehe |
| 18:56.32 | brac | [Dexter Walks] |
| 19:02.01 | elg | neat |
| 19:03.07 | tensai | to compile gcc-3.4 I need, get this, gcc-3.4 |
| 19:03.09 | macnewbold | http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSPEK20484520070227?src=022707_1301_ARTICLE_PROMO_also_on_reuters |
| 19:03.32 | elg | tensai: sounds like a gentoo nightmare |
| 19:03.41 | tensai | elg: debian backports |
| 19:03.58 | elg | still a gentoo nightmare |
| 19:04.03 | elg | :) |
| 19:04.08 | tensai | heh |
| 19:05.08 | tensai | that's probably a typical dream for gentoo. the nightmares are much worse. |
| 19:08.20 | levi | Heh, Monads in C: http://programming.reddit.com/info/16kxj/comments/c16oz4 |
| 19:10.46 | findlay | tensai: I thought gcc compiles itself |
| 19:11.55 | tensai | findlay: it's the debian packages. turns out I could have just set CC=gcc and gone on |
| 19:12.33 | elg | but instead you took a sledgehammer to the monitor? |
| 19:13.36 | findlay | how tragic |
| 19:13.42 | tensai | instead I ate a sandwich. ham, colby jack, red leaf lettuce, cracked pepper. mmm |
| 19:13.50 | findlay | no fair |
| 19:13.58 | findlay | you probably got snow too |
| 19:14.06 | redbeard1 | we got snow where i am |
| 19:14.09 | tensai | yup, but not on my sandwich |
| 19:14.20 | elg | more of a side dish |
| 19:14.35 | tensai | elg: what do you use as a cooking vessel for no-knead bread? |
| 19:14.47 | elg | my baking tiles |
| 19:15.06 | elg | sometimes I cover with a stoneware pan or pyrex or whatever |
| 19:15.07 | levi | Mmm, baking tiles. |
| 19:15.16 | elg | the rest of the time I just deal with the suboptimal crust |
| 19:15.17 | findlay | baked tiles? |
| 19:15.19 | tensai | how does it turn out uncovered? |
| 19:15.23 | elg | just fine. |
| 19:15.28 | elg | crust isn't as crisp |
| 19:15.56 | tensai | I may do that then |
| 19:16.01 | levi | I actually bought an overpriced rectangular baking stone, back when I was single and had money. |
| 19:16.07 | elg | do try in a dutch oven someday |
| 19:16.15 | elg | it's worth doing at least once |
| 19:16.19 | tensai | first I would need to acquire a dutch oven |
| 19:16.36 | elg | levi: bake baguettes under it |
| 19:16.45 | tensai | I could borrow one from the scout shed I guess |
| 19:16.52 | elg | take advantage of your youthful splurge |
| 19:17.03 | levi | Baguettes under the dutch oven, or under the baking stone? |
| 19:17.15 | elg | oh you said baking stone |
| 19:17.18 | levi | tensai: Dutch ovens are not particularly expensive. |
| 19:17.24 | elg | i somehow thought you meant baking dish |
| 19:17.39 | levi | I've got some pyrex baking dishes and stuff. |
| 19:18.02 | elg | so there you go. dish over baguette over stone |
| 19:18.07 | levi | I've also got a fairly large ceramic bowl I could probably bake a boule under. |
| 19:18.11 | tensai | levi: well sure. it's all priorities. |
| 19:18.17 | elg | nice |
| 19:18.46 | elg | tensai: just do it without cover for now. when you get bored of that _then_ spring for/borrow a dutch oven or something |
| 19:18.49 | levi | tensai: Really, cast iron cooking stuff is amazingly cheap, especially if you don't get the fancy brand. |
| 19:18.49 | tensai | explain the concept of cooking under something. what does it do to the crust? |
| 19:18.51 | elg | maybe a terra cotta pot |
| 19:19.00 | elg | steam |
| 19:19.02 | redbeard1 | elg: you coming to the utosc? |
| 19:19.10 | elg | when is it? |
| 19:19.18 | redbeard1 | september |
| 19:19.24 | elg | the steam inhibits the gelatinization of the crust |
| 19:19.25 | redbeard1 | i forget the days |
| 19:19.39 | elg | which allows for more stuff to happen |
| 19:19.46 | elg | then you take off the cover and let the crust brown |
| 19:20.03 | tensai | "more stuff"? |
| 19:20.05 | elg | you get a crisper crust, and better bread all around |
| 19:20.11 | elg | yeah, lots of different boring techincal stuff |
| 19:20.26 | elg | if you're interested, go get "The Bread Builders" from the library |
| 19:21.02 | redbeard1 | tensai: don't do it, man, it's a trap |
| 19:21.17 | elg | what's cool about utosc? why should I go? |
| 19:22.14 | redbeard1 | well, it's cool because it's an open source conference and it's in utah, and you should go because then you could present on vim |
| 19:22.45 | tensai | hmm. I wonder if I could design my smoke house to also be an oven. seems like it should work. |
| 19:22.58 | elg | what's your smoke house made out of? |
| 19:23.01 | elg | how big is it? |
| 19:23.14 | elg | i could present on vim, right you are |
| 19:23.35 | elg | would I get VIP treatment? |
| 19:23.44 | redbeard1 | elg: sept 6-8 |
| 19:24.03 | redbeard1 | you could sit at the cool kid's table at lunch |
| 19:24.09 | tensai | elg: it's not built yet. planning to make it out of brick. |
| 19:24.14 | elg | do I have to sit with Jayce^ |
| 19:24.29 | tensai | big enough but not too big. it needs to be disassembleable |
| 19:24.35 | elg | tensai: ah, then definitely |
| 19:24.36 | redbeard1 | elg: dude, what makes you think he'd be at the cool kid's table? |
| 19:25.10 | elg | that book will tell you all you need to know about making a killer bread/pizza oven to |
| 19:25.13 | elg | o |
| 19:25.40 | tensai | saw a funny video once of some guys who built a brick oven for pizza |
| 19:26.04 | tensai | they mounted it outside so the opening met their kitchen window, for easy pizza delivery |
| 19:26.16 | elg | yeah I saw that. it was funny |
| 19:26.34 | tensai | they didn't design a way for the smoke to leave the oven and it filled their kitchen |
| 19:27.09 | tensai | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc |
| 19:27.29 | tensai | why must gcc hate me so? |
| 19:27.31 | vontrapp | nicholas and his 3G emails |
| 19:27.50 | herlo | elg: no requirement to sit with Jayce^ |
| 19:28.47 | elg | phew |
| 19:29.01 | elg | so I can sit at the VIP table. but how do I get there? |
| 19:29.12 | herlo | where do you live now? |
| 19:29.40 | jsmith | elg: Drive north |
| 19:29.58 | herlo | jsmith: you need to present on asterisk as well you know |
| 19:30.13 | redbeard1 | elg: i would recommend you drive, so that you can pick me up some food in santa fe on the way |
| 19:30.24 | herlo | mmm, santa fe |
| 19:30.38 | herlo | I suggest flying so the food will be warm still when you deliver it to redbeard |
| 19:31.12 | jsmith | herlo: I might just be able to swing it... fly to Utah, present on Asterisk, fly from there to San Jose, teach a class... |
| 19:31.14 | redbeard1 | hmm, good point. there's an airport in santa fe, right? |
| 19:31.38 | herlo | at least one |
| 19:31.45 | herlo | jsmith: cool |
| 19:32.07 | jsmith | elg: Fly out of alamagordo ;-) It's a great (little) airport. It's won all kinds of awards. |
| 19:32.20 | jsmith | elg: And the service is top-notch |
| 19:32.35 | vontrapp | but its still a six hour drive just to santa fe |
| 19:32.38 | herlo | and fly into Provo |
| 19:32.57 | redbeard1 | i thought it was only a 4 hour drive to santa fe |
| 19:33.03 | vontrapp | maybe |
| 19:34.05 | redbeard1 | elg: i'll even call in my order and pay for it. all you'd need to do is pick it up. |
| 19:34.14 | herlo | mmm |
| 19:34.16 | herlo | order |
| 19:34.20 | herlo | fooooood |
| 19:34.34 | vontrapp | ~order herlo |
| 19:34.41 | vontrapp | -chat |
| 19:34.42 | brac | kvim, vim for quick and powerful and beat em |
| 19:35.15 | vontrapp | ~kvim is for panty-cracks |
| 19:35.18 | ibot | ...but kvim is already something else... |
| 19:35.29 | vontrapp | ~kvim is also for panty-cracks |
| 19:35.30 | ibot | vontrapp: okay |
| 19:36.43 | vontrapp | mmmm, homemade alfredo, from fresh grated parmesean, with chicken and mushrooms |
| 19:37.32 | levi | Yum. |
| 19:37.59 | vontrapp | my wife's got the hookup for parmesean from the pizza factory |
| 19:38.17 | vontrapp | although i think it's less potent than some parmesean i've had in the past |
| 19:39.09 | vontrapp | and how does one reheat leftover alfredo? microwaving it is a disaster |
| 19:39.38 | vontrapp | i put it in just long enough so it's not cold, and it's alright |
| 19:40.19 | redbeard1 | vontrapp: nuke it for a minute or two, and then stir it (if you can) and let it rest for a couple of minutes before nuking it some more |
| 19:40.42 | vontrapp | that's kinda what i did, minus the stirring |
| 19:40.52 | elg | jsmith: I'd love to fly over to alamogordo... in a small plane as the pilot |
| 19:40.53 | vontrapp | i coulda put it in a larger vessel to accomodate stirring |
| 19:41.05 | elg | but it's just about as fast to drive there from here |
| 19:41.12 | elg | have you flown into alamogordo? |
| 19:41.59 | jsmith | Yeah... I flew from Alburquerque to Alamagordo... in a small plane. |
| 19:42.10 | vontrapp | despite the minor oil seperation, that alfredo was mighty tasty |
| 19:42.20 | elg | i love phone calls like this. "Hi, we switched internet providers and now the router is downstairs and we want to use this wireless usb thing upstairs but linux won't take the windows install cd" |
| 19:42.44 | elg | jsmith: what were you doing in alamogordo? |
| 19:43.01 | vontrapp | elg: where from do you get such phone calls? |
| 19:43.05 | elg | jody |
| 19:43.10 | vontrapp | ah |
| 19:43.29 | elg | so he's going to take the computer downstairs so I can ssh in (/me hugs openvpn) and set things up |
| 19:43.36 | jsmith | elg: I was supposed to be showing a company the proper way to interface with our system. Once I got down there, they basically said "We don't care. You're on your own for the next two days." |
| 19:44.15 | elg | hehe |
| 19:44.17 | elg | so what did you do? |
| 19:44.24 | elg | i hope you went over to white sands |
| 19:44.44 | vontrapp | so they gave you a little plane to fly around in? that's awesome! |
| 19:45.43 | jsmith | elg: White Sands, the space museum, Las Cruces (to eat sushi and buy a video game) |
| 19:47.49 | elg | we need to go to the space museum still |
| 19:48.02 | elg | this was before we moved here I take it |
| 19:50.49 | jsmith | Yeah... about 3-1/2 years ago |
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| 19:50.59 | jsmith | elg: The space museum is awesome... |
| 19:55.03 | elg | cool, we'll have to go soon |
| 20:04.08 | ^Migs^ | crazy mother-in-law won't stop calling my wife. We're probably going to have to get a restraining order. |
| 20:05.34 | macnewbold | your mother in law, or her mother in law? |
| 20:05.50 | ^Migs^ | her mother in law |
| 20:05.55 | ^Migs^ | wait |
| 20:05.59 | ^Migs^ | my mother in law |
| 20:06.00 | ^Migs^ | her mother |
| 20:06.04 | findlay | heh |
| 20:06.22 | ^Migs^ | I know you confused me on purpose |
| 20:06.31 | ^Migs^ | ~whalenuke macnewbold |
| 20:06.33 | ibot | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around macnewbold with his mind powers |
| 20:06.44 | findlay | besides, it's mother-in-law |
| 20:07.07 | ^Migs^ | I could call it mother.in.law if I wanted |
| 20:07.29 | macnewbold | so why is it bad that her mother is calling her? isn't that normal for mother and daughter to converse from time to time? |
| 20:10.05 | macnewbold | but the tomato basil soup sounds good |
| 20:10.09 | redbeard1 | levi, where are you that you can get big city soup? |
| 20:10.11 | findlay | with a side of snow |
| 20:10.19 | findlay | in the big city? |
| 20:10.24 | macnewbold | there's something about tomato soup on a snowy/cold day that just hits the spot |
| 20:10.28 | ^Migs^ | her mother is a very bad person, and a bad influence on everyone around her |
| 20:10.39 | levi | redbeard1: It was brought it for a catered lunch a while ago, and I saved some. |
| 20:10.44 | levi | Er, brought in |
| 20:10.52 | redbeard1 | gotcha |
| 20:10.57 | ^Migs^ | she caused all her children to be dysfunctionally codependent on her |
| 20:11.06 | macnewbold | eww, that's not good |
| 20:11.10 | macnewbold | I know some people like that |
| 20:11.14 | ^Migs^ | I normally don't like tomato soup, but that does sound good |
| 20:11.27 | macnewbold | so is your wife okay now, or still having trouble because of it? |
| 20:11.32 | ^Migs^ | she came to live with us for awhile, and we had to kick her out after a week because she couldn't behave herself |
| 20:11.41 | ^Migs^ | no, this will take years of psychotherapy |
| 20:12.05 | ^Migs^ | right now, her therapist told her she's not allowed any contact with her mother. Probably ever again, but maybe when she's more capable of resisting her in a few years she'd be okay. |
| 20:12.19 | levi | ^Migs^: This is not like Campbell's tomato soup. It's got big tomato chunks in a vegetable broth, not a puree. |
| 20:12.36 | ^Migs^ | sounds delish |
| 20:12.51 | levi | It is indeed. |
| 20:13.02 | levi | I've liked all of the soup from Big City Soup that I've tried. |
| 20:13.17 | levi | I really like the tomato gorgonzola and the chicken curry soups. |
| 20:13.45 | redbeard1 | tomato gorgonzola? now _that_ sounds good |
| 20:13.54 | levi | I had a clam chowder yesterday. Mmm, so good. |
| 20:14.01 | levi | They have excellent rolls, too. |
| 20:15.13 | levi | And they always bring a gigantic tub of butter chips and Tillamook cheese slices. The cheese is great for snacking, and the butter chips work well in my grits in the morning. :) |
| 20:16.22 | levi | The tomato gorgonzola is is a creamy tomato puree soup with some small tomato chunks and, of course, gorgonzola cheese. |
| 20:16.53 | redbeard1 | levi, chunks of gorgonzola, or is the cheese just blended in? |
| 20:16.59 | ^Migs^ | man |
| 20:17.03 | ^Migs^ | Tillamook is the best cheese ever |
| 20:17.15 | ^Migs^ | I'm going to whip out the crockpot tonight |
| 20:17.27 | levi | redbeard1: I think it's mostly blended in, but there may be some small chunks. |
| 20:17.37 | redbeard1 | oh man. |
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| 20:18.04 | redbeard1 | ~lart elg |
| 20:18.05 | levi | You really can't go wrong with Big City Soup. |
| 20:18.11 | tensai | I've got a great recipe for cream of tomato |
| 20:18.36 | tensai | I should try it with basil. don't know why I didn't think of that. |
| 20:18.39 | levi | My bowl of clam chowder had a gigantic bay leaf in it. :) |
| 20:18.39 | redbeard1 | tensai, could you send it to me? |
| 20:18.52 | redbeard1 | levi, that's not cool |
| 20:19.13 | levi | redbeard1: Why not? |
| 20:19.14 | tensai | redbeard1: yes, I can. might be tonight if I can't find a soft copy |
| 20:19.23 | levi | They're not difficult to extract. |
| 20:19.51 | redbeard1 | bay leaves are the #1 biggest cause of choking in restaurants |
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| 20:20.18 | redbeard1 | biggest lesson we learned in our soups and sauces class: count 'em going in and count 'em coming out |
| 20:20.41 | levi | Hmm. |
| 20:20.55 | levi | Well, these were big enough that you'd have a pretty hard time getting them in your mouth. |
| 20:21.01 | QBFreak | redbeard1: they also prompt complaints about leaves in the food |
| 20:21.16 | redbeard1 | still, they should have taken them out before it got to you |
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| 20:22.00 | redbeard1 | QBFreak, dude, that's funny |
| 20:23.23 | tensai | redbeard1: http://www.twhgrafx.com/recipes/archives/000681.html |
| 20:23.26 | brac | [Favorite Recipes: 4B's Tomato Soup] |
| 20:23.58 | tensai | redbeard1: I've used canned and fresh tomatoes. both work well as long as they're peeled |
| 20:24.18 | tensai | home canned garden tomatoes are especially good |
| 20:24.26 | redbeard1 | baking soda? really? |
| 20:24.32 | redbeard1 | what does that do for the soup? |
| 20:24.41 | tensai | softens up the matos |
| 20:24.51 | redbeard1 | really? that's handy |
| 20:24.56 | tensai | it's a trick you can use for beans too |
| 20:25.26 | tensai | saw that on America's Test Kitchen |
| 20:26.05 | findlay | does it reduce the beans' capacity for causing gaseous discharges during digestion? |
| 20:26.19 | tensai | findlay: thankfully no |
| 20:26.25 | findlay | heh |
| 20:26.55 | tensai | redbeard1: speaking of chicken stock, I'd like to try my hand at that. can I use bones that come out of cooked meat, like say a ham? |
| 20:27.06 | tensai | redbeard1: or does it need to be uncooked? |
| 20:29.06 | redbeard1 | tensai, either way will work. in fact, a lot of chefs roast the bones first to enhance flavor. |
| 20:29.57 | redbeard1 | even though ham stock does exist, and you can buy it at the store, a lot of chefs will look at you funny if you mention it |
| 20:30.38 | redbeard1 | chicken, veal and beef stock are the norms |
| 20:30.58 | tensai | redbeard1: I just had some ham bones so that's why I thought of it |
| 20:31.13 | redbeard1 | dude, go for it. it'll be good. |
| 20:33.26 | tensai | redbeard1: one thing we like to make is bbq chicken with thighs and legs. I could use those bones too? |
| 20:34.00 | tensai | I'm excited about the prospects of fresh stock. mmm... |
| 20:36.15 | levi | There was some brand of organic creamy tomato soup I found at the grocery store that was really yummy. It came in one of those foil-lined boxes rather than a can. I can't remember the brand, though. |
| 20:36.33 | redbeard1 | tensai, absolutely |
| 20:36.40 | macnewbold | so where is Big City Soup located? |
| 20:37.14 | tensai | redbeard1: what veggies do you like in your stock? |
| 20:37.25 | levi | macnewbold: They have 3 locations, all in SLC; the website bigcitysoup.com details them. |
| 20:37.41 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 20:37.43 | macnewbold | thanks |
| 20:37.58 | redbeard1 | tensai, usually onions, celery, carrots, leeks, in a 2:1:1:1 ratio |
| 20:38.19 | redbeard1 | but i helped make an artichoke stock once that was pretty good |
| 20:38.35 | levi | That does sound like it could be good. |
| 20:38.40 | tensai | wow. this will be fun. |
| 20:39.06 | tensai | redbeard1: did I mention I'm reading La Technique? |
| 20:39.10 | ^Migs^ | I don't even know what tensai is |
| 20:39.27 | redbeard1 | tensai, i didn't. that's awesome! |
| 20:39.37 | redbeard1 | ^Migs^, he's a dude |
| 20:40.08 | tensai | ~x ja en 天才 |
| 20:42.00 | macnewbold | wow |
| 20:42.04 | ^Migs^ | oh |
| 20:42.13 | macnewbold | ~x ja en mori |
| 20:42.25 | ^Migs^ | haha, I forgot. I read all those vegetables and thought "tensai" was some Japanese herb I didn't know about |
| 20:42.26 | macnewbold | hm, it doesn't know how to do romaji |
| 20:42.50 | redbeard1 | ~x en ja vegetable |
| 20:43.00 | ^Migs^ | one of my many dumb moments |
| 20:43.05 | redbeard1 | that's handy |
| 20:43.08 | tensai | that would be yasai |
| 20:43.32 | tensai | ^Migs^: I can see why. that's funny. |
| 20:44.23 | macnewbold | ~x en ja forest |
| 20:44.33 | macnewbold | ~x en ja tree |
| 20:45.00 | macnewbold | you can't see it very well probably, but the kanji for forest is three trees :) |
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| 20:46.32 | ^Migs^ | yeah, showed up correctly for me, too |
| 20:46.43 | ^Migs^ | I really wish I knew Japanese |
| 20:46.45 | findlay | ~x runes common speech Barad Dur |
| 20:46.54 | ^Migs^ | well, not that much |
| 20:47.31 | tensai | findlay: you have to use ISO country codes. has the ISO assigned a two letter abbreviation for runes? |
| 20:47.47 | findlay | doubt it |
| 20:48.02 | macnewbold | ~x ru co Barad Dur |
| 20:48.05 | redbeard1 | ~x pt en caipira |
| 20:48.13 | macnewbold | ~x en ru thanks |
| 20:48.37 | Jayce^ | redbeard1, interesting, wonder why it doesn't know that one.. |
| 20:48.50 | redbeard1 | Jayce^, apparently babelfish doesn't know it |
| 20:49.01 | findlay | tensai: I doubt runes are in unicode anyway (-: |
| 20:49.13 | findlay | they should be, of course |
| 20:49.18 | Jayce^ | common word.. |
| 20:49.32 | Jayce^ | ~x en pt cowboy |
| 20:49.38 | Jayce^ | ~x en pt hick |
| 20:49.52 | Jayce^ | the second is closer to the meaning |
| 20:50.28 | redbeard1 | ~x en pt redneck |
| 20:50.43 | Jayce^ | no, it's caipira |
| 20:50.43 | redbeard1 | very disappointing |
| 20:51.03 | Jayce^ | gives you a little bit of the background for a 'caipirinha' too |
| 20:52.06 | redbeard1 | ~x ja en 馬鹿 |
| 20:52.17 | redbeard1 | eh. close enough. |
| 20:52.24 | Jayce^ | baka |
| 20:52.29 | redbeard1 | hai |
| 20:52.49 | redbeard1 | はい |
| 20:54.53 | tensai | it's never written in kanji though. バカ |
| 20:55.17 | redbeard1 | tensai, i've seen it written in kaji. |
| 20:55.20 | redbeard1 | kanji. |
| 20:55.24 | redbeard1 | once, in class. |
| 20:55.55 | tensai | ok, so not /never/. in practice it's rarely used. |
| 20:56.01 | redbeard1 | pretty much |
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| 20:56.24 | tensai | but if you can spell that or rose, or spider you can wow all your japanese friends |
| 20:56.34 | tensai | ~x en ja rose |
| 20:56.36 | tensai | ~x en ja spider |
| 20:57.06 | tensai | ~x en ja rose petal |
| 20:57.06 | Jayce^ | "we love you くも" just doesn't quite work |
| 20:57.36 | tensai | even ibot won't try either of them |
| 20:57.52 | redbeard1 | 私はmheath に彼がここにいたら加えることを何かがあることをことを確かめる |
| 20:59.06 | levi | Heh. What's that say? |
| 20:59.33 | rsimpkins | lefi: hit the road jack, and dontcha come back, no more, no more, no more, no more. |
| 20:59.34 | tensai | you'd like to know how many things he can count? |
| 21:00.00 | redbeard1 | levi, i'm sure if mheath were here, he'd have something to add |
| 21:00.36 | redbeard1 | sorry, i don't have an ime installed on this box, so i had to use babelfish to write that |
| 21:01.27 | Jayce^ | mmm, ripe plums |
| 21:01.56 | rsimpkins | Does anyone pay for linkedin? |
| 21:02.01 | herlo | no |
| 21:02.05 | Jayce^ | no |
| 21:02.16 | rsimpkins | I'm still trying to figure out the value. |
| 21:02.32 | Jayce^ | jcoates must, I've seen a few ads come from him |
| 21:04.35 | rsimpkins | 6 million profiles is a pretty good user base. |
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| 21:04.56 | rsimpkins | 9 million rather. |
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| 21:05.18 | ^Migs^ | what advantage is there to paying for linkedin? |
| 21:05.38 | rsimpkins | ^Migs^: That's what I'm trying to figure out. I think the main advantage is being able to e-mail ppl. |
| 21:07.37 | ^Migs^ | why would I want to email people? |
| 21:09.00 | emcnabb | so, how am I going to get this 128GB vmcore file... |
| 21:09.41 | ^Migs^ | thumb drive |
| 21:10.13 | bonez39 | how might I resolve this >>>> error: error accessing /var/log/squid: Permission denied error: squid:4 glob failed for /var/log/squid/*.log |
| 21:10.31 | bonez39 | not sure why the permission is denied... |
| 21:10.43 | bonez39 | when cron tries to run this |
| 21:17.24 | QBFreak | is cron running under the proper user? |
| 21:18.12 | bonez39 | QBFreak, good question..I am not sure...how would I check or verify? |
| 21:19.14 | QBFreak | not a clue, I'm just guessing here :) |
| 21:19.48 | QBFreak | maybe stick an entry in that does echo foo > ~/MARKER and then search for MARKER |
| 21:32.11 | findlay | so I've gone 4 days without emptying out my spam box |
| 21:32.17 | findlay | aren't you proud of me? |
| 21:32.41 | findlay | and not emptying --> not compulsively emptying |
| 21:33.21 | findlay | bonez39: what's the user:group on /var/log/squid/*.log? |
| 21:35.14 | bonez39 | findlay, checking now....brb |
| 21:35.56 | bonez39 | -rw-r----- 1 proxy proxy 0 2007-02-19 06:29 access.log.1 |
| 21:36.15 | bonez39 | that's the permission setting for /var/log/squid/*.log* |
| 21:36.39 | rsimpkins | bonez39: what is the permissions on /var/log/squid? |
| 21:41.52 | emcnabb | great, I need to go pick up a 200lbs system from the shipping room |
| 21:42.01 | emcnabb | ugh |
| 21:42.02 | maquis | emcnabb: fun |
| 21:42.28 | macnewbold | emcnabb: what is it, a PDP-1170? |
| 21:42.34 | findlay | ~crush emcnabb |
| 21:42.46 | ibot | ACTION crushes emcnabb with a full height scsi disk |
| 21:43.09 | findlay | -unix emcnabb |
| 21:43.11 | emcnabb | it's a beast of a system, not sure what it is yet |
| 21:43.29 | emcnabb | some big Sun system |
| 21:44.23 | bonez39 | rsimpkins, drwxr-x--- 2 proxy proxy 4096 2007-02-20 06:29 squid |
| 21:44.50 | rsimpkins | bonez39: So the cron job needs to execute as user proxy or root, right? |
| 21:51.02 | bonez39 | rsimpkins, I assume so...yeah...... |
| 21:51.20 | rsimpkins | bonez39: Okay, where is the cron entry at? |
| 21:51.52 | redbeard1 | having never read wil wheaton's blog before, is it just me, or does he swear a lot? |
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| 21:52.22 | harleypig | redbeard1: he swears a lot |
| 21:52.23 | levi | redbeard1: He does seem to swear a lot. I guess he has to fight the Wesley Crusher squeaky-clean image. |
| 21:52.27 | nick125_ | wee |
| 21:52.31 | harleypig | weewee |
| 21:52.48 | levi | This little piggy went wee! wee! wee! all the way home. |
| 21:53.03 | harleypig | left puddles all over the place |
| 21:54.21 | bonez39 | rsimpkins, I don't know......can't find it |
| 21:54.24 | rsimpkins | bonez39: It needs to be in /etc/crontab with the root/proxy user on that line, or in /var/spool/cron/(root|proxy). |
| 21:57.56 | nick125_ | 213 more miles to las cruces |
| 22:06.44 | levi | Yow, I have 15 pdf documents open right now, most of them research papers. |
| 22:06.48 | nick125_ | what pdf reader? |
| 22:09.29 | levi | Evince. |
| 22:10.49 | nick125_ | mmm... |
| 22:11.14 | nick125_ | I dislike evince, for some reason, it opens my audio device while viewing a pdf.. |
| 22:11.15 | ^Migs^ | Evince sucks |
| 22:11.26 | ^Migs^ | but I'm just saying that because it's cool to say something someone else is using sucks |
| 22:12.07 | goozbach | 1/(whatever ^Migs^ says) |
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| 22:13.47 | emcnabb | it's an Sun Fire x4500 http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/ |
| 22:17.15 | levi | nick125_ and ^Migs^: I'm not particularly concerned about your opinions on my choice of pdf viewers. |
| 22:17.30 | redbeard1 | emcnabb: dude, that's a sexy server |
| 22:19.48 | emcnabb | redbeard1: yeah, seems to be |
| 22:21.06 | harleypig | I wish I had $60k for a server ... |
| 22:21.33 | Supaplex | If I had 60K, I'd get an armful of these http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=AE304267&nclm=Xserve |
| 22:22.29 | harleypig | 30 is a handful? |
| 22:22.40 | nick125_ | If I had 60k, I would build a cluster of home-made servers |
| 22:22.56 | harleypig | err ... 20 I mean. |
| 22:23.08 | findlay | ~trogdor |
| 22:23.09 | ibot | trogdor is, like, trogdor, from the 'dragon' email by Strongbad of Homestar Runner fame |
| 22:23.37 | harleypig | But that's only 320GB, as opposed to 24TB. |
| 22:24.02 | harleypig | s/320/3200/ |
| 22:24.30 | Supaplex | yea, but just an armful, and have some left over for xserve raid |
| 22:24.38 | harleypig | heh |
| 22:25.00 | ^Migs^ | xserve raid sucks |
| 22:25.09 | emcnabb | I deal with some pretty beefy machines here at work, but we don't even have the highest end stuff. I had a report today of sysrq-m dieing on boxes with 128+ GB of RAM |
| 22:25.21 | ^Migs^ | beef sucks |
| 22:25.56 | nick125_ | I want to try an openmosix/ltsp setup, powering like 200-300 terminals |
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| 22:32.42 | nick125- | eek |
| 22:32.51 | nick125- | lost cell signal |
| 22:35.13 | tene | yay! |
| 22:36.36 | nick125- | I keep losing signal along I-25.. |
| 22:43.12 | macnewbold | is that what keeps kicking you out of IRC? |
| 22:43.30 | macnewbold | which begs the question, why are you using IRC on your phone while presumably driving on I-25? |
| 22:44.00 | nick125- | I'm not the one driving :-) |
| 22:44.10 | macnewbold | that's comforting |
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| 22:44.50 | beandog | heh |
| 22:45.25 | nick125- | wow.... |
| 22:45.42 | nick125- | there's a bush/chenny 04 billboard still up.. |
| 22:46.06 | harleypig | Anyone every hear of a girl named Harley? |
| 22:46.41 | harleypig | My son has a class with a girl named Harley. I'm thinking "What the hell were her parents smoking?!" |
| 22:47.06 | nick125- | hah |
| 22:48.12 | ^Migs^ | there are 15 girls in my db named Harley |
| 22:48.25 | harleypig | what db? |
| 22:48.38 | ^Migs^ | my student database |
| 22:48.56 | ^Migs^ | most of them in elementary school, so it's apparently a new "trendy" name |
| 22:49.18 | atoponce | anyone use gnuplot here? |
| 22:49.51 | atoponce | or at least familiar with it |
| 22:49.53 | atoponce | ? |
| 22:49.57 | maquis | atoponce: vaguely |
| 22:49.58 | findlay | atoponce: I've used it |
| 22:50.13 | findlay | it's kind of hard at first, but wonderfully rewarding |
| 22:50.25 | maquis | ~lart findlay |
| 22:50.47 | findlay | maquis: what was that for? |
| 22:50.54 | atoponce | maquis: findlay: trying to figure out how to set line width, and i don't get it |
| 22:50.55 | maquis | fun |
| 22:51.04 | findlay | -relart maquis for fun |
| 22:51.09 | atoponce | don't get 'index' i should say |
| 22:51.09 | maquis | line width? |
| 22:51.24 | maquis | what do you mean by "line width" |
| 22:51.25 | maquis | ? |
| 22:51.29 | atoponce | set style line <index> linewidth <line_width> |
| 22:51.31 | findlay | atoponce: sorry, I've not gone too much with it yet |
| 22:51.41 | atoponce | maquis: the width of the line... |
| 22:51.47 | atoponce | 2px or 3px etc |
| 22:51.49 | maquis | atoponce: try set style line 7 linewidth 2 or something |
| 22:51.59 | atoponce | but what is <index> |
| 22:52.06 | maquis | it's a type of line, i believe |
| 22:52.10 | maquis | a line style |
| 22:52.25 | maquis | the graphs i was working with not too long ago were using 7, iirc |
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| 22:52.58 | maquis | my bet is that 1-6 also work there |
| 22:53.00 | *** part/#utah calvarez (n=Hhhhh@lawn-128-61-114-244.lawn.gatech.edu) |
| 22:53.15 | harleypig | Jeremiah was a bull frog ... |
| 22:53.19 | macnewbold | Harley isn't a girl's name... that's just weird |
| 22:53.23 | harleypig | was a good friend of mind. |
| 22:53.28 | harleypig | Yeah, tell me about it. |
| 22:53.48 | macnewbold | though some parents must be smoking something when naming there children |
| 22:53.56 | macnewbold | I once new a Smith family who named their son Aero |
| 22:54.11 | macnewbold | they were native american, so at first I thought it was Arrow, but no, it was Aero |
| 22:54.20 | nick125- | hahaha |
| 22:54.24 | Jayce^ | Knew a Kid named 'Darth', last name 'Rehder' |
| 22:54.26 | macnewbold | after the band |
| 22:54.39 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 22:54.43 | atoponce | still 1px |
| 22:54.59 | harleypig | Someone was recently telling me about an elder on his mission whose last name was 'Elder' and his parents thought it would be funny to call hime Elder. |
| 22:55.04 | harleypig | So he was Elder Elder Elder. |
| 22:55.14 | maquis | harleypig: that's horri |
| 22:55.15 | maquis | d |
| 22:55.21 | elg | beaver beaver beaver beaver |
| 22:55.23 | elg | ~beaver |
| 22:55.33 | ibot | i heard beaver is Wally's obnoxious little brother. |
| 22:55.34 | findlay | should I go Sentence case or Title Case? |
| 22:55.34 | Jayce^ | ~moose |
| 22:55.36 | ibot | somebody said moose was elg |
| 22:55.38 | harleypig | shouldn't that be badgerbadgerbadger |
| 22:55.43 | elg | oh yeah, badger |
| 22:55.45 | elg | ~badger |
| 22:55.46 | ibot | http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ |
| 22:55.49 | brac | [Badger Badger Badger] |
| 22:55.51 | harleypig | maquis: Ever hear of the Pigg twins? |
| 22:56.02 | harleypig | Ima and Youra |
| 22:56.03 | findlay | I'm giving you unbelievable influence over my data, and yet nobody cares |
| 22:56.10 | ^Migs^ | what Elder Elder Elder a complete weirdo? |
| 22:56.18 | ^Migs^ | because I can't imagine any other way he could've turned out |
| 22:56.29 | findlay | ~imagine ^Migs^ |
| 22:56.32 | maquis | harleypig: that's bad too |
| 22:56.37 | atoponce | maquis: i refer you to http://www.gnuplot.info/docs/gnuplot.html |
| 22:56.43 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Dunno ... I don't remember who was telling me about it. |
| 22:56.46 | atoponce | search for 'set style line' |
| 22:56.51 | brac | [Gnuplot: An Interactive Plotting Program] |
| 22:56.55 | ^Migs^ | maybe your brain just made him up |
| 22:57.20 | harleypig | There was an elder in my district by the name of Bell. He wanted to name his kids Liberty, Taco and Ma. |
| 22:57.30 | maquis | atoponce: i guess the jobs i was looking at must've already set up the indexes |
| 22:57.41 | maquis | you can probably just use set linesize 3 or something |
| 22:58.05 | atoponce | maquis: but what is the index? i think that is what is messing me up |
| 22:58.24 | maquis | atoponce: ditch it |
| 22:58.29 | maquis | just set the linesize, and not the style |
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| 22:59.37 | atoponce | maquis: 'set linesize'? |
| 23:00.44 | atoponce | hmmm. nope |
| 23:01.45 | maquis | atoponce: set linesize 3 |
| 23:01.48 | maquis | or something like that |
| 23:02.08 | atoponce | yeah. invalid command |
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| 23:03.48 | maquis | hrm |
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| 23:07.18 | atoponce | it's gotta be under style |
| 23:07.36 | maquis | set line style linesize 3? |
| 23:10.48 | atoponce | wait a minute.... |
| 23:12.03 | elg | set gnuplot style just_right |
| 23:15.54 | atoponce | 'set style line 1 lw 2; set style function lines; plot sin(x), ls 1' maybe? |
| 23:16.16 | harleypig | back off boogaloo |
| 23:16.20 | harleypig | back off boogaloo |
| 23:16.26 | harleypig | what did you think were gonna do |
| 23:16.40 | harleypig | haven't heard this one in a long time. |
| 23:17.38 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.42 | atoponce | invalid syntax |
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| 23:30.21 | atoponce | got it |
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| 23:32.32 | atoponce | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.36 | atoponce | perfect |
| 23:36.36 | findlay | nice |
| 23:36.53 | atoponce | yeah. it's actually quite a bit of fun |
| 23:37.02 | atoponce | it's cool to see how seamlees the interaction is |
| 23:37.55 | tristanbob | how do I "spin" the cube? (change workspace) |
| 23:38.45 | tene | ctrl+alt+right |
| 23:38.54 | tene | ctlr+alt+LMB+drag |
| 23:39.38 | tristanbob | hmmm- perhaps not working right - I am running Ubuntu 7.04 (pre-alpha-release) |
| 23:39.45 | tristanbob | I get the wobbly windows |
| 23:39.48 | tristanbob | but no spin |
| 23:40.26 | tene | tristanbob: check to see if it's enabled. |
| 23:40.40 | findlay | ~spin tristanbob |
| 23:40.49 | ibot | ACTION spins tristanbob |
| 23:40.49 | atoponce | ctrl+alt+→ |
| 23:40.59 | atoponce | ctrl+alt+← |
| 23:41.03 | tristanbob | what is that key? |
| 23:41.09 | tristanbob | arrow key? |
| 23:41.20 | tristanbob | it is changing workspaces, but not spinning |
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| 23:41.28 | atoponce | arrow key |
| 23:41.29 | tristanbob | the alt-tab looks sweet too |
| 23:41.37 | tene | tristanbob: check to see if "workspaces on a cube" is enabled |
| 23:41.40 | elg | this is insane awesome http://www.therawfeed.com/2006/09/vr-gear-makes-rc-airplane-coolest-toy.html |
| 23:41.44 | brac | [The Raw Feed: VR Gear Makes RC Airplane the Coolest Toy Ever] |
| 23:41.45 | atoponce | tristanbob: is this on a standard install? |
| 23:41.57 | tristanbob | how do I show all open screens in a tiled format? |
| 23:42.08 | tene | ctrl+alt+down |
| 23:42.17 | tristanbob | atoponce: yes! it was just enabled - go to system > preferences > desktop effects |
| 23:42.22 | atoponce | nice |
| 23:46.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Is that like being "fairly pregnant"? |
| 23:47.29 | tristanbob | atoponce: this is on my laptop - no data on it |
| 23:47.44 | tristanbob | just for surfing the net and console into Cisco devices |
| 23:47.58 | tristanbob | so I don't mind if it breaks |
| 23:48.56 | tristanbob | they got rid of the System Center or whatever it was called |
| 23:48.59 | tristanbob | I never liked it |
| 23:50.05 | macnewbold | Lone_Wanderer: where'd you see someone say "fairly deterministic"? |
| 23:50.45 | macnewbold | maybe what they meant was something like "It is deterministic (when you start with the same seed for the pseudo-random number generator)" |
| 23:50.59 | Lone_Wanderer | on the plug list, levi said it |
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| 23:52.04 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 23:52.19 | macnewbold | levi: elaborate on "fairly deterministic"? |
| 23:57.56 | atoponce | ~determine levi |
| 23:58.42 | macnewbold | FALSE |
| 23:58.58 | atoponce | ~boolean maquis |
| 23:59.01 | atoponce | bah |
| 23:59.06 | atoponce | stoopid tab complete |
| 23:59.14 | elg | ~eval maquis |
| 23:59.17 | atoponce | ~bool maquis |
| 23:59.29 | atoponce | stoopid ibot |