| 00:02.07 | emcnabb | good evening |
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| 01:03.56 | tristanbob_ | FYI - http://linuxappfinder.com/ |
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| 01:11.03 | tene | ~lart Date::Calc |
| 01:11.42 | nick125_lappy | Anyone here play around with lmms? |
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| 01:16.33 | nick125_lappy | I can't seem to do anything more then a simple song in lmms |
| 01:21.12 | tene | Hmm... I guess the problem isn't with Date::Calc but with my machine. |
| 01:21.15 | tene | That's a problem. |
| 01:21.25 | tene | ~lart potential memory problems |
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| 01:57.47 | thesuperbigfrog | -chat ibot |
| 01:57.48 | brac | ibot had |
| 01:57.59 | thesuperbigfrog | -chat brac |
| 01:57.59 | brac | brac was built. |
| 01:58.16 | thesuperbigfrog | -chat thesuperbigfrog |
| 01:58.16 | brac | thesuperbigfrog had |
| 01:58.23 | thesuperbigfrog | hmm |
| 02:16.23 | elg | -chat it |
| 02:16.24 | brac | it had PPC Macs and used xmail |
| 02:17.12 | QBFreak | -chat I |
| 02:17.12 | brac | I had forgotten the name on it) and it appears that way when somebody starts swearing in-channel. =) |
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| 03:02.29 | levi_home | ~pity elg |
| 03:02.39 | ibot | I pity da fool elg! |
| 03:20.27 | goozbach | -chat myspace is |
| 03:20.27 | brac | myspace is lower ;) |
| 03:20.49 | goozbach | -chat about myspace is |
| 03:20.49 | brac | myspace is the client) |
| 03:20.53 | goozbach | -chat about myspace is |
| 03:20.54 | brac | myspace is lower ;) |
| 03:20.58 | goozbach | -chat about myspace is |
| 03:20.58 | brac | myspace is lower ;) |
| 03:21.14 | goozbach | -chat about goozbach pineapple |
| 03:21.14 | brac | goozbach pineapple |
| 03:21.20 | goozbach | -chat about goozbach pineapple |
| 03:21.20 | brac | goozbach pineapple |
| 03:21.30 | goozbach | I loves me some pineapple |
| 03:49.38 | elg | -lart goozbach |
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| 04:05.04 | levi_home | elg: Were you doing grading of Java assignments or something? |
| 04:11.09 | elg | yeah |
| 04:24.12 | levi_home | Sounds like loads of fun. :) |
| 04:24.16 | levi_home | Done any erlanging? |
| 04:25.53 | levi_home | Hah, this looks familiar: http://www.modulaware.com/mdlt35.htm |
| 04:25.56 | brac | [Moylan: The case against C.] |
| 04:28.47 | elg | just a bit of reading |
| 04:28.48 | elg | and installed it |
| 04:28.58 | elg | my week is shaping up to be fairly full |
| 04:29.56 | elg | grading these is going slow, preparing my asterisk presentation for Thursday, got a contract that needs attention |
| 04:30.08 | elg | and a homework due friday |
| 04:30.23 | levi_home | Ahh. I haven't done much with erlang either. |
| 04:30.26 | elg | and i seem to be fixated on porting twinkle to os x today :) |
| 04:30.40 | levi_home | What's twinkle? |
| 04:30.42 | elg | i got it to compile finally, with all sound modules disabled |
| 04:30.54 | elg | excellent linux sip client |
| 04:31.03 | elg | and now it's having runtime issues |
| 04:31.42 | levi_home | Well, having ditched Qwest, I'm one step closer to trying out asterisk stuff. |
| 04:31.42 | elg | i think they might be pthread problems. I did have to do some pthread tweaking to get it to compile, and there might be semantic bugs I introduced, or semantic differences between the implementatinos |
| 04:31.55 | levi_home | I'm currently doing Comcast's phone service. |
| 04:32.06 | elg | i've got the outline of my asterisk demo. it's gonna be cool |
| 04:32.28 | elg | i set up asterisk in vmware (they have a beta for intel mac) |
| 04:32.44 | elg | but my virtual machine keeps locking up when I'm not looking. not sure why. :) |
| 04:33.03 | elg | it was a fun experiment, but I think I'll just bring the extra laptop running linux |
| 04:33.44 | elg | rather than fight vmware (i also had to fight it on network configuration) |
| 04:37.39 | nick125_lappy | elg: were you using wireless? |
| 04:38.22 | levi_home | Yeah, I think I've finally got my vmware setup under control. |
| 04:45.15 | vontrapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.16 | brac | [Moylan: The case against C.] |
| 04:46.16 | levi_home | Yow. The big Enterprise D model sold for $500k. |
| 04:46.16 | vontrapp | ? |
| 04:46.17 | vontrapp | d'oh |
| 04:46.36 | levi_home | I'm watching a show on Star Trek on the History Channel. |
| 04:48.11 | elg | nick125_lappy: yeah, I read about how it doesn't bridge to wireless |
| 04:48.23 | elg | i had the network share through wireless hting on |
| 04:48.36 | elg | i could ping from either end, and get out from vmware (it had 192.168.2.3) |
| 04:48.37 | vontrapp | so the bridge just fails when you have wireless? |
| 04:48.42 | elg | but I couldn't do any normal network in |
| 04:48.44 | vontrapp | that's my problem then |
| 04:48.53 | elg | but now I think it might be that I didn't have the en0 interface up |
| 04:49.04 | elg | maybe if I force it to stay up (or plug it into something) it would work |
| 04:49.13 | elg | vontrapp: only on os x |
| 04:49.22 | vontrapp | oh |
| 04:49.29 | vontrapp | then why do my interfaces fail? |
| 04:49.30 | elg | or at least as far as I know it's just an osx limitation. they say they're working on it |
| 04:49.37 | elg | vontrapp: just because you have bad luck |
| 04:49.44 | elg | and a broadcom card |
| 04:50.04 | vontrapp | i'm not even using that, i'm using an atheros pcmcia |
| 04:50.08 | vontrapp | much, much, much better |
| 04:50.45 | vontrapp | i just need a better antanna |
| 04:50.53 | vontrapp | ~spell antanna |
| 04:51.09 | vontrapp | it _was_ an e |
| 04:51.38 | vontrapp | didn't believe myself, but antanna still didn't look right |
| 04:58.35 | nick125_lappy | elg: ieee802.11 specs don't allow for MAC spoofing |
| 05:21.57 | elg | so? |
| 05:22.07 | elg | that's why there's virtual devices |
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| 06:25.54 | nick125_lappy | Ugh. This is going to be fun |
| 06:26.10 | nick125_lappy | I want to setup an LTSP server on my server, but, I don't want to actually install X on my server |
| 07:17.39 | nick125_lappy | Ugh.. |
| 07:17.47 | nick125_lappy | I've never seen a box that literally hates linux |
| 07:24.53 | nick125_lappy | I can't get this thing to boot |
| 07:25.12 | nick125_lappy | It has so much propietary junk that it would make your head spin |
| 07:26.58 | tene | nick125_lappy: linux supports the head-spinner's driver? |
| 07:27.08 | nick125_lappy | tene: Nope |
| 07:27.18 | nick125_lappy | I can't even get the thing to boot |
| 07:27.20 | nick125_lappy | something about the ZIP100 drive in it :/ |
| 07:27.21 | tene | ahh, "would" |
| 07:27.36 | nick125_lappy | It keeps giving me "lost interrupt" errors |
| 07:29.47 | tene | ouch |
| 07:29.59 | nick125_lappy | It has a DFP port as well |
| 07:31.03 | tene | DFP? |
| 07:31.24 | nick125_lappy | Digital Flat Panel |
| 07:33.35 | nick125_lappy | I couldn't get it to boot with framebuffer |
| 07:33.42 | nick125_lappy | It gives some weird ACPI errors |
| 07:40.24 | nick125_lappy | Any ideas? |
| 08:08.58 | tene | Hmm. |
| 08:09.15 | tene | Anyone know a good way to get readable data out of an sxw file? |
| 08:09.21 | tene | a 'catdoc' equivalent? |
| 08:09.26 | tene | oslt? |
| 08:16.07 | maquis | question |
| 08:16.24 | maquis | what's the variable that gives the return-value of the last-run command? |
| 08:17.48 | tene | $!, maybe |
| 08:20.20 | maquis | ok... that's what i thought too |
| 08:21.34 | tene | Hmm. maybe not. |
| 08:22.04 | nick125_lappy | Ugh...Can't think of what to do..head hurting in pain.. |
| 08:22.31 | nick125_lappy | I don't want to install X/Gnome on my server for LTSP, but, I don't want to install LTSP on another box and have to deal with two DHCP servers |
| 08:23.13 | nick125_lappy | I wish I had Xen installed on my server |
| 08:23.35 | nick125_lappy | If I did, I would just setup a LTSP VM on there, and run everything on there |
| 08:23.42 | maquis | nick125_lappy: if your head is hurting in pain, i'd suggest doing neither and going to bed instead |
| 08:24.51 | nick125_lappy | good idea |
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| 11:41.10 | Sargun | hey |
| 11:41.14 | Sargun | dilvie, what's up |
| 11:41.23 | Sargun | wow, its 4 AM |
| 11:41.30 | Sargun | I should sleep. |
| 11:42.00 | tene | lies |
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| 14:13.55 | elg | -lart vmware |
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| 15:03.13 | mheath | Does anyone have any suggestions for a cheap and simple VOIP provider? |
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| 15:17.37 | mheath | Morning graphyx |
| 15:19.19 | graphyx | hi |
| 15:19.32 | graphyx | tensai: yeah that is just like what happened to ours |
| 15:19.45 | graphyx | Just get that kit and go to town. |
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| 15:35.34 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
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| 19:37.23 | goozbach | pineapple |
| 20:06.28 | elg | paperclip |
| 20:07.57 | QBFreak | pickpocket! *runs off with goozbach's and elg's wallets |
| 21:05.38 | Sargun | mheath is back! |
| 21:05.42 | Sargun | OMG! |
| 21:05.45 | Sargun | MHEATH! |
| 21:05.55 | Sargun | I'll shut up now. |
| 21:06.22 | Sargun | where i s he I wonder. |
| 21:09.28 | Sargun | I wonder why he is in austria |
| 21:13.25 | elg | CGI:IRC |
| 21:13.48 | Sargun | ah |
| 21:13.52 | Sargun | that would explain it |
| 21:13.59 | Sargun | I wonder where he actually is. |
| 21:15.27 | Sargun | Anyways: |
| 21:15.29 | Sargun | I'm writing an application layer protocol, what should I use to serialize the data, PyYAML, XML, or other? |
| 21:19.52 | elg | what do you mean application layer? |
| 21:20.30 | nick125_lappy | I hate qwest |
| 21:20.56 | dilvie | I got a new camera. |
| 21:20.58 | dilvie | yay |
| 21:21.00 | dilvie | http://www.flickr.com/photos/dilvie/sets/72157594554797413/ |
| 21:21.13 | Sargun | nick125_lappy, What happened |
| 21:21.17 | dilvie | still learning how to use it properly. |
| 21:21.28 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: my line keeps resyncing |
| 21:21.33 | Sargun | elg, its a streaming reimplementation of bit torrent |
| 21:21.44 | Sargun | nick125_lappy, at least its not like Covad, or SBC |
| 21:21.46 | nick125_lappy | Qwest says theres nothing wrong with the line, my ISP says qwest is full of it |
| 21:21.49 | Sargun | where your line just keeps desyncing |
| 21:22.15 | Sargun | dilvie, who is that? |
| 21:22.21 | elg | Sargun: ok, but is it for talking to the application by many other clients/developers, or is it just inside your program (conceptually anywho) |
| 21:22.41 | Sargun | elg, primary |
| 21:22.48 | elg | primary? |
| 21:22.55 | elg | like once there was a snowman? popcorn popping? |
| 21:22.57 | dilvie | who's who? |
| 21:23.10 | Sargun | there are going to be more implementation |
| 21:23.16 | dilvie | http://www.flickr.com/photos/dilvie/401451536/in/set-72157594554797413/ <- My friend Melissa |
| 21:23.30 | nick125_lappy | My ISP wants me to take my modem down to their office so they can test it on their line |
| 21:23.31 | nick125_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.31 | nick125_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.31 | nick125_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.34 | jsmith | elg: I built a snowman today... does that count? |
| 21:23.38 | jsmith | elg: Two, in fact. |
| 21:24.02 | elg | did you build a snowwoman? |
| 21:24.47 | elg | dilvie: at first I thought you meant you were still trying to figure out how to use flickr (i missed the bit about the new camera) |
| 21:24.57 | Sargun | elg, We are going to open source the protocol, so we want it to be compatible with other people's clients/servers. |
| 21:25.47 | jsmith | elg: Well, I built a snowman. My wife built a snowwoman... but then the features on the snowwoman looked more manly than on the snowman |
| 21:25.56 | Sargun | heh |
| 21:26.14 | elg | if it fits well in YAML, that's a good choice I think. if it doesn't, it's not |
| 21:26.34 | elg | i'd pick xml over rolling your own |
| 21:26.45 | nick125_lappy | wow, I freed 100MB of RAM just by closing firefox |
| 21:26.51 | elg | but not necessarily over yaml, depending |
| 21:26.59 | nick125_lappy | another 50MB by closing thunderbird |
| 21:27.03 | elg | might look at osc too |
| 21:27.41 | elg | nick125_lappy: those sound like average numbers for those two apps |
| 21:28.00 | nick125_lappy | elg: Yeah.. |
| 21:28.12 | nick125_lappy | I wish there was a decent web rendering engine |
| 21:28.14 | nick125_lappy | other then gecko |
| 21:28.22 | nick125_lappy | (which is a memory hog) |
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| 21:28.31 | jsmith | What about khtml? |
| 21:29.04 | nick125_lappy | jsmith: something GTK based, preferably.. |
| 21:31.47 | nick125_lappy | I know theres gtk-webcore, but, there aren't any python bindings for that either |
| 21:37.11 | goozbach | I tried to make a rainman, it didn't work out so well |
| 21:37.19 | elg | ~rain goozbach |
| 21:37.44 | nick125_lappy | Pizza Party sounds so cool |
| 21:38.17 | goozbach | pizza? |
| 21:38.19 | goozbach | yummy |
| 21:39.09 | nick125_lappy | its a command line app for ordering pizza |
| 21:39.31 | nick125_lappy | WHAT?! NO EBUILD? |
| 21:40.52 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.29 | Sargun | for i in range(10000): "pizza_party_ |
| 21:42.11 | nick125_lappy | I should write a gdesklet for pizza_party |
| 21:42.48 | nick125_lappy | It would have an "order" button, and, once you place an order, it would have a timer |
| 21:45.31 | nick125_lappy | The dominos near here doesn't take online orders :( |
| 21:46.00 | Sargun | lol |
| 21:47.39 | nick125_lappy | I'm going to try to port it to papa johns |
| 21:48.00 | nick125_lappy | Since the papa johns near here accepts online orders |
| 21:48.55 | Sargun | use Python |
| 21:48.56 | Sargun | not PERL |
| 21:49.03 | nick125_lappy | of course |
| 21:49.06 | nick125_lappy | I'm not stupid |
| 21:49.08 | Sargun | or have it compare prices |
| 21:49.15 | Sargun | give it an XML file |
| 21:49.22 | Sargun | and have it draw prices |
| 21:49.29 | goozbach | aahhhh |
| 21:49.31 | Sargun | and return an XML answer |
| 21:49.34 | goozbach | pizza |
| 21:49.46 | Sargun | and then you send it an order in XML |
| 21:50.09 | Sargun | lol |
| 21:50.10 | nick125_lappy | Making humans edit XML is sadistic |
| 21:50.23 | Sargun | I edit XML |
| 21:50.54 | Sargun | I'm not a sadist |
| 21:51.02 | goozbach | you're massicistic |
| 21:51.10 | Sargun | I am? |
| 21:51.23 | Sargun | I don't enjoy causing pain |
| 21:51.25 | Sargun | to myself |
| 21:51.38 | Sargun | or having pain caused to me. |
| 21:51.57 | nick125_lappy | I should write "plugins" for pizza hut, dominos, and papa johns |
| 21:52.15 | Sargun | pizza-ins |
| 21:52.16 | Sargun | :-P |
| 21:53.48 | nick125_lappy | ./pypizza --place=pizza-hut --pepperoni --size=large --quanity=1 --crust=regular |
| 21:53.55 | nick125_lappy | pizzapy! |
| 21:54.20 | elg | heh. that's a good name |
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| 22:11.29 | calvarez | hello |
| 22:11.40 | Sargun | calvarez, hey! |
| 22:12.23 | Sargun | nick125_lappy, have it work through the atarack request engine proxy, so we can analyze people's pizza purchasing habits |
| 22:12.48 | nick125_lappy | anyone here have an icepick handy? |
| 22:12.53 | calvarez | U-Haul transformers, yaay! |
| 22:12.57 | calvarez | I knew it was true! |
| 22:13.04 | calvarez | nobody believed me! |
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| 22:13.47 | Sargun | ok |
| 22:21.59 | thesuperbigfrog | ~lart qwest |
| 22:26.54 | nick125_lappy | :-) |
| 22:27.25 | Supaplex | we all agree! |
| 22:29.37 | calvarez | everybody knows that, in Utah, anything but Comcast = newbie connection |
| 22:31.12 | nick125_lappy | Comcast is even worse |
| 22:31.31 | nick125_lappy | Qwest might be bad, but, Comcast and Covad are even worse |
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| 22:34.54 | calvarez | lol |
| 22:37.41 | thesuperbigfrog | ~lart mstar |
| 23:50.21 | Supaplex | ~lart arosnet mangement |