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| 00:04.21 | nick125_lappy | yay for stealing neighbors wifi |
| 00:10.26 | harleypig | Anna Nicole Smith died today! |
| 00:10.28 | harleypig | wierd |
| 00:10.37 | harleypig | http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/08/anna.nicole.collapses/index.html |
| 00:10.38 | brac | [Reality TV star Anna Nicole Smith dies at 39 - CNN.com] |
| 00:13.38 | Supaplex | If I didn't know better, I'd say it was for the ratings... |
| 00:14.34 | harleypig | heh |
| 00:14.37 | fozzmoo | It's sad.... but... |
| 00:14.39 | fozzmoo | yeah. |
| 00:14.44 | dataw0lf | good riddance. |
| 00:14.50 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 00:15.00 | harleypig | now now |
| 00:15.04 | harleypig | that's not very nice |
| 00:15.12 | dataw0lf | good riddance, I say! good riddance! |
| 00:15.17 | harleypig | :] |
| 00:15.18 | fozzmoo | We should only say good things about the deceased. |
| 00:15.24 | fozzmoo | Like... "It's good they're deceased." |
| 00:15.34 | harleypig | I've always wondered about that. I think that is so stoopid. |
| 00:15.52 | dataw0lf | yea, when they're dead is the best time to say anything bad about someone |
| 00:17.08 | fozzmoo | Unless you believe in an afterlife in which the dead can hear/read what you say and can exact revenge. |
| 00:17.56 | dataw0lf | if that was true, I'm sure there'd be a couple pissed off ghosts following me around right now. |
| 00:18.09 | dataw0lf | I'M GAY |
| 00:18.14 | dataw0lf | omg my computer typed by itself |
| 00:18.18 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 00:18.20 | dataw0lf | ;-) |
| 00:18.45 | elg | i've heard the name. so who was this chick? |
| 00:18.56 | fozzmoo | You may remember... |
| 00:19.05 | fozzmoo | playboy model... married an old guy who was rich. |
| 00:19.08 | fozzmoo | he died. |
| 00:19.11 | fozzmoo | She wanted the money. |
| 00:19.15 | fozzmoo | the family said no. |
| 00:19.19 | fozzmoo | She got a reality show on E! |
| 00:19.33 | fozzmoo | Somewhere along the way, she got really fat. |
| 00:19.43 | fozzmoo | and then her son died... mysteriously. |
| 00:19.47 | dataw0lf | son died under suspicious circustances... |
| 00:19.47 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 00:19.52 | dataw0lf | circumstances* |
| 00:24.19 | harleypig | Didn't Law&Order just do a show on her? |
| 00:25.02 | harleypig | She married a 89 or 98 year old oil tycoon worth 1.2 billion dollars and he dies a year later. That would make a saint suspicious. |
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| 00:25.17 | harleypig | Unless, of course, he died with a big grin on his face. |
| 00:26.46 | Supaplex | mysteries are made every day... |
| 00:27.57 | dataw0lf | harleypig: hardly, I mean, the guy is 89 |
| 00:28.07 | dataw0lf | why risk getting caught for murder when you can just let nature run it's course? |
| 00:28.28 | harleypig | phft ... since when did people act logically? |
| 00:29.20 | harleypig | You'd be surprised by how many can't see past next week, let alone be willing to wait a couple of years. |
| 00:42.13 | tristanbob_ | be sure to sell all your trimspa stock |
| 00:42.47 | harleypig | heh |
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| 01:12.42 | nick125_ | yes, I'm psychotic |
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| 03:02.27 | findlay | as long as you don't eat them loud enough to cover up Schubert |
| 03:07.52 | Supaplex | :P |
| 03:08.02 | findlay | hey you're eating all the chips |
| 03:08.39 | Supaplex | that's the idea |
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| 04:01.56 | findlay | I want some |
| 04:02.18 | findlay | guess levi doesn't |
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| 04:05.32 | levi_home | Hmm, this vmware NAT thing isn't working so well. |
| 04:05.44 | levi_home | At least not for persistent connections. |
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| 04:08.13 | findlay | does that mean you want some carmel corn? |
| 04:08.54 | levi_home | Not really. |
| 04:27.41 | levi_home | Hmm. |
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| 04:38.49 | levi_home | Looks like I am still connected. |
| 04:40.20 | beandog | yahp |
| 04:43.14 | levi_home | Well, despite how much everyone seems to hate it, I'm enjoying my Comcast internet. |
| 04:43.52 | tensai | carmel-cast internet you say? |
| 04:44.02 | beandog | I had a lot of luck when using it west jordan, but here in salt lake it cuts out all the time. |
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| 04:45.49 | levi_home | beandog: Is it a NOC problem or a line problem? |
| 04:45.56 | beandog | huh? |
| 04:46.10 | findlay | guess that's a yes |
| 04:46.34 | levi_home | beandog: Does it cut out because of a poor signal to the modem, or because something is wrong at the Comcast network office? |
| 04:46.44 | beandog | uh |
| 04:46.46 | beandog | I dunno |
| 04:47.06 | beandog | its probably my 503 electronic devices sitting right next to the modem and router. |
| 04:47.18 | beandog | which Im too lazy to rearrange, but all too happy to complain anyway |
| 04:47.21 | beandog | :) |
| 04:49.36 | findlay | ~rearrange beandog |
| 04:49.37 | levi_home | It could be poor cable wiring, too. |
| 04:50.15 | beandog | I need someone to come look at my setup, is what I need |
| 04:50.21 | beandog | I'm a networking noob. It could seriously be anything. |
| 04:50.45 | levi_home | Heh. |
| 04:51.04 | beandog | seriously, Id do it. Nothing like some good local geek advice. |
| 04:51.50 | levi_home | My network diagnostic skills are a bit out of practice. |
| 04:52.12 | Supaplex | depends on where you live =) |
| 04:53.06 | beandog | me? salt lake |
| 04:53.28 | beandog | I should give DSL a try .. its been like 5 years. |
| 04:53.37 | beandog | Im sure things have improved since then. |
| 04:53.57 | findlay | too bad SLC isn't a UTOPIA city |
| 04:54.05 | beandog | I know |
| 04:54.13 | beandog | I keep meaning to start some civil uprest about that. |
| 04:55.04 | beandog | I think were thinking of moving to Murray just for that. |
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| 05:38.28 | levi_home | Wow, an external cable spec for PCIe. |
| 05:51.20 | Supaplex | plug it into yer brain! |
| 05:51.38 | levi_home | More like, external video cards! |
| 05:51.55 | Supaplex | Windows has detected a new mass storage device. Do you want to reformat it now? Y/n |
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| 06:45.47 | nomasteryoda|w | Supaplex, LOL |
| 06:45.48 | nomasteryoda|w | that is so lame |
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| 06:45.57 | findlay | I always wanted an external video card |
| 06:45.58 | findlay | in fact I want an external computer |
| 06:45.58 | findlay | with all the capacitors inside out |
| 06:45.58 | Supaplex | so you can lick them? |
| 06:45.58 | nick125_lappy | mmm |
| 06:45.58 | nick125_lappy | licking capacitors sounds like fun |
| 06:45.59 | findlay | ~lick capacator |
| 06:46.27 | ibot | ACTION licks capacator *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 06:46.28 | findlay | no way, throw him a full Farad cap (-: |
| 06:47.58 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 07:00.43 | tene | http://alife.co.uk/nonrandom/ |
| 07:00.45 | brac | [Sun redefines randomness] |
| 07:10.24 | findlay | lol |
| 07:10.45 | findlay | a little late however |
| 07:10.57 | findlay | ibot: are you asleep? |
| 07:11.10 | ibot | zzzzzzzz |
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| 13:59.35 | redbeard1 | ~onjoin redbeard1 hey Jayce^, want an altoid? |
| 13:59.35 | ibot | redbeard1: ok |
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| 14:03.57 | redbeard1 | ~lart elg |
| 14:16.43 | elg | it's not my fault |
| 14:16.53 | elg | my blog didn't change one iota. it was just down for awhile |
| 14:20.42 | redbeard1 | elg: what are you talking about? |
| 14:29.01 | elg | openclue |
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| 15:14.04 | atoponce | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/02/02 |
| 15:14.04 | brac | [Penny Arcade! - The Manifold Faces of Vista] |
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| 15:50.08 | QBFreak | ouch |
| 15:50.33 | QBFreak | you know, if you want ot make it worse, you could stick in Fabio from the Nationwide commercial |
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| 15:53.21 | redbeard1 | ~lart tensai |
| 15:57.29 | dataw0lf_ | hehe, new PA is awesome |
| 15:57.47 | dataw0lf_ | "Twenty million kids are eaten by bats every second." |
| 15:58.34 | vontrapp | twenty million bits are eaten by dataw0lf_ every second |
| 16:00.14 | vontrapp | gah, for some reason i can't run ethereal |
| 16:00.14 | vontrapp | i can't find the executable for the life of me |
| 16:00.14 | vontrapp | and it's installed |
| 16:00.25 | vontrapp | er, wireshark |
| 16:02.48 | vontrapp | but yet the package is still ethereal |
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| 16:27.11 | *** topic/#utah by Jayce^ -> The channel for OSS discussion in the great notched state | http://www.plug.org/node/28 |
| 16:38.48 | elg | cs it group: "spam is taking up too much disk space, etc. we're going to filter spam to special places where you can look for your lost messages. spam older than a month will be deleted." |
| 16:39.00 | elg | my inbox: "this email has been detected as spam. have a nice day" |
| 16:39.27 | elg | so it's the same as it was before, except the messages are that much bigger with the spamassassin text added |
| 16:39.53 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 16:40.21 | vontrapp | but they get automatically deleted after a month |
| 16:40.30 | elg | no |
| 16:40.38 | ^Migs^ | my email has "Your mailbox is getting full" messages |
| 16:40.43 | elg | afaict they either aren't doing that (yet) or they only do that with REALLY SPAM messages |
| 16:40.45 | ^Migs^ | and those take up a good chunk of the space |
| 16:41.07 | elg | i haven't noticed a decrease in the OEM software adverts coming to my inbox (which is 99% of the spam to this account) |
| 16:41.52 | elg | ~squish thesuperbigfrog |
| 16:41.55 | ibot | ACTION squishes thesuperbigfrog like a bug |
| 16:44.43 | emcnabb | From the box: "Hot Pockets is a good source of calcium" |
| 16:44.59 | emcnabb | I need to make sure they're a part of my diet then |
| 16:45.03 | elg | mcnabbs is a good source of lartium |
| 16:46.28 | redbeard1 | ~lard emcnabb |
| 16:46.37 | redbeard1 | ~lart emcnabb |
| 16:46.52 | redbeard1 | elg: hey, you're right! but not a good source of lard |
| 16:47.26 | vontrapp | that tab completion ... |
| 16:48.24 | dataw0lf | emcnabb: hot pockets mmmmm |
| 16:49.09 | redbeard1 | "Your pockets are hot." |
| 16:50.59 | Jayce^ | redbeard1, classic |
| 16:53.27 | dataw0lf | mmmm |
| 16:53.48 | Jayce^ | RAP4.. |
| 16:54.17 | dataw0lf | http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-enforcement-p-1041.html |
| 16:54.19 | brac | [RAP4 LE (Law Enforcement)] |
| 16:54.45 | Jayce^ | ah yes, not just the mil-sim, but actual action.. nice |
| 16:54.51 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 16:54.56 | Jayce^ | .43? |
| 16:55.20 | dataw0lf | yar |
| 16:55.58 | Jayce^ | http://www.planeteclipse.com/ego/ <-- sponsoring my team... |
| 16:55.59 | brac | [-- Ego® --] |
| 16:56.21 | dataw0lf | Nice |
| 16:56.23 | Jayce^ | deciding on our custom colors rightnow |
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| 17:09.06 | ^Migs^ | http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2007-02-09T153008Z_01_N09169842_RTRUKOC_0_US-BRAZIL-ANACONDA.xml&src=rss |
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| 17:10.14 | redbeard1 | levi_home: slacker |
| 17:10.31 | levi_home | Eh? |
| 17:17.08 | macnewbold | okay, I know there are some dns experts in here... so here's a brain teaser for you - I've got a domain name that has 5 distinct DNS servers in its whois. One of them goes down, so 20% of queries attempt to use that server and get a timeout and no response. What does a well-behaved DNS server (say at the ISP) do? Cache the failure for some period of time (how long?), try one of the other servers (how many other servers should it try before giving up?) o |
| 17:18.09 | maquis | levi_home: you're a slacker because you're still at home |
| 17:19.03 | levi | No, I'm at work. |
| 17:19.11 | levi | I can just ssh to my home connection. |
| 17:19.18 | elg | macnewbold: iirc, it doesn't cache a negative on timeout |
| 17:19.28 | elg | it will just try again next time and fail (or get one of the good ones) |
| 17:19.29 | levi | I prefer having the GUI-goodness of xchat at work, though. |
| 17:19.32 | elg | but I'm not sure |
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| 17:21.15 | ^Migs^ | ~migs perl |
| 17:21.24 | ibot | ACTION forces perl to learn perl from ^Migs^ |
| 17:21.31 | ^Migs^ | ~whalebomb XSL-FO |
| 17:21.34 | ibot | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at XSL-FO and hides. |
| 17:22.29 | findlay | ~whalenuke it too |
| 17:22.30 | ibot | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around it too with his mind powers |
| 17:23.42 | Supaplex | morning |
| 17:23.48 | findlay | ~morning Supaplex |
| 17:23.50 | ibot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping Supaplex in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 17:24.29 | Supaplex | no job, no monday worries. :o) |
| 17:26.44 | Jayce^ | still no job? |
| 17:27.29 | Jayce^ | was interesting seeing fungus jump into #freeside to start learning :) |
| 17:29.02 | Supaplex | yea |
| 17:29.45 | Supaplex | it would have been done sooner, but the owner is driven to distraction at times. :) |
| 17:30.06 | harleypig | More Anna Nicole Smith: video of her last minutes sold for 500k |
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| 17:32.00 | macnewbold | elg: sorry for the delayed reply - just saw your response to my dns question |
| 17:32.06 | macnewbold | last night one of the 5 servers went down |
| 17:32.14 | macnewbold | and comcast and uofu campus both cached the response |
| 17:32.33 | macnewbold | it's going on 12 hours that comcast customers can't get any sites that had dns on that set of 5 dns servers |
| 17:32.52 | Supaplex | I spy a fungus |
| 17:33.00 | macnewbold | it's almost like they tried the server, saw it was down, and then assumed any domain name that was using that server was automatically going to fail |
| 17:33.11 | macnewbold | cause even names that weren't likely cached through their servers |
| 17:33.15 | macnewbold | were failing |
| 17:34.14 | fungus | also known as negative caching. |
| 17:35.03 | macnewbold | how long should it do that? |
| 17:35.16 | macnewbold | and should it do that even if it is a "timeout" instead of a "not found"? |
| 17:35.32 | macnewbold | fungus: here's my situation that you missed: |
| 17:35.35 | macnewbold | okay, I know there are some dns experts in here... so here's a brain teaser for you - I've got a domain name that has 5 distinct DNS servers in its whois. One of them goes down, so 20% of queries attempt to use that server and get a timeout and no response. What does a well-behaved DNS server (say at the ISP) do? Cache the failure for some period of time (how long?), try one of the other servers (how many other servers should it try before giving up?) o |
| 17:36.08 | Supaplex | if you dig @ip, it should tell you how much longer it's cached. |
| 17:36.17 | Supaplex | negative or otherwise. |
| 17:36.54 | elg | macnewbold: i would have wanted timeout to be different than authoritative not found. :) |
| 17:37.03 | elg | and it may be - there may be separate ttl values for the two cases |
| 17:37.18 | elg | but if uofu does it, it's likely the way dns is designed |
| 17:37.23 | elg | (comcast, who knows) |
| 17:38.18 | fungus | Most ISPs do not implement negative caching (caching of not found or no response). |
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| 17:38.28 | sjansen | ~lart java |
| 17:38.34 | elg | sjansen: how's your dns fu? |
| 17:38.44 | sjansen | depends |
| 17:38.45 | fungus | The RFC for negative caching specifies that the TTL should not be longer than 5 min. |
| 17:39.23 | fungus | http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/rfc/rfc2308.html |
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| 17:39.39 | Supaplex | bad dns, no biscuit! |
| 17:39.45 | elg | but that's the onus of the dns record, not the servers, right? |
| 17:39.45 | macnewbold | fungus, elg: okay, that's what I tohught |
| 17:39.47 | macnewbold | thought |
| 17:40.41 | fungus | A well-behaved DNS server will just fall back to a second nameserver and ask again. |
| 17:41.04 | macnewbold | okay |
| 17:41.12 | macnewbold | then these are just retarded name servers that do this? |
| 17:41.27 | macnewbold | last night it was all of comcast that was messed apparently |
| 17:41.37 | macnewbold | sometimes it's happened where our mail server will get a bad response, |
| 17:41.52 | macnewbold | and then for a while it will reject mail for the domain thinking it is a non-existent domain |
| 17:42.06 | Supaplex | macnewbold: I know cooltext.com had a similar issue last night. comcast had a retarded dns server. |
| 17:42.37 | Supaplex | However, I do not recall which one :) |
| 17:42.41 | fungus | Can you configure your mail server to queue the mail instead of rejecting it? |
| 17:43.22 | beandog | Supaplex: is that your site? |
| 17:44.05 | Supaplex | it belongs to a long time friend of mine |
| 17:44.25 | beandog | Brian? |
| 17:45.05 | beandog | he's not on IRC is he |
| 17:45.13 | atoponce | kinda like ad hoc, but not really |
| 17:45.18 | atoponce | any ideas? |
| 17:45.20 | macnewbold | fungus: I could try - it's sendmail on freebsd, do you know how I'd go about it? |
| 17:45.37 | elg | i'd start by uninstalling sendmail |
| 17:46.00 | beandog | atoponce: you could always run openwrt on your router, |
| 17:46.01 | fungus | Just add their domains to the access db |
| 17:46.14 | Supaplex | beandog: no, he's not on irc often at all. and yes, anyone can use whois.... :) |
| 17:46.15 | macnewbold | Supaplex: explain more about that dig command with the @ip - it's not doing what I expected |
| 17:46.28 | fungus | example: To:ainfo.com RELAY |
| 17:46.44 | beandog | Supaplex: I know him too, havent talked to him a while |
| 17:46.51 | macnewbold | fungus: they're already in local-host-names |
| 17:46.54 | atoponce | beandog: i need something small and cheap that i can carry with my |
| 17:46.56 | atoponce | *me |
| 17:46.58 | macnewbold | do they need to be specicially in access too? |
| 17:47.13 | fungus | I don't think they do. |
| 17:47.37 | beandog | atoponce: oh |
| 17:47.37 | fungus | I thought it was just for relaying. |
| 17:47.38 | atoponce | basically, i need the wireless device to connect to other wireless devices wirelessly, then provide a switch for computer to connect to |
| 17:47.39 | macnewbold | yeah, that's what I thought |
| 17:47.46 | fungus | macnewbold: add it in their anyway. |
| 17:47.47 | elg | dig @server example.com |
| 17:47.52 | macnewbold | they're domains we receive mail for, which is what's so annoying |
| 17:48.00 | macnewbold | I don't care if it's in dns, I told you to accept mail for it |
| 17:48.00 | fungus | My servers have aros.net in both places. |
| 17:48.31 | macnewbold | elg: yes, I know how to ask a specific server. He was saying something about it showing the amount of negative caching time it had remaining |
| 17:48.58 | fungus | If it returns a record, you can see the TTL that server is using. |
| 17:48.59 | macnewbold | if it were just one domain, I'd do it easily - but it's a whole long list :( |
| 17:49.11 | atoponce | A.P.--| ))) ((( |--switch----> computers |
| 17:49.12 | fungus | if the record is wrong, you have to wait for the TTL to expire. |
| 17:49.13 | macnewbold | and what if it returns no record? is there still a ttl on it? |
| 17:49.19 | macnewbold | right |
| 17:49.23 | atoponce | something like that |
| 17:49.44 | fungus | Hrm. I don't think that TTL can be sniffed via conventional means. |
| 17:50.10 | fungus | That TTL is not part of DNS protocol, it's just a server thing. |
| 17:50.49 | Supaplex | macnewbold: Like fungus says, I could be wrong on it showing the remaining negative cache. |
| 17:51.05 | Supaplex | -slap comcast dns |
| 17:51.32 | macnewbold | okay |
| 17:56.22 | atoponce | hmmm. wireless ethernet bridge is what i'm looking for |
| 17:56.28 | atoponce | couldn't find the name for it |
| 17:56.42 | atoponce | anyone recommend some good wireless ethernet bridges? |
| 17:57.09 | macnewbold | atoponce: linksys makes a bridge like that - WET11 or WET54 or something like that I think was the model number |
| 17:57.11 | macnewbold | haven't used one yet |
| 17:57.21 | macnewbold | many access points can be configured in bridge mode too |
| 17:57.37 | levi | http://blog.ruhlman.com/2007/02/guest_blogging_.html |
| 17:57.48 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 17:58.51 | Supaplex | or go cheap, and ignore the uplink ports on your typical wireless broadband router |
| 17:59.23 | Supaplex | if you disable dhcp+nat on it. |
| 17:59.41 | levi | redbeard1: You should read that one, if you haven't already. Anthony Bourdain vs. Food Network. :) |
| 18:00.08 | redbeard1 | levi: looking |
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| 18:13.24 | fungus | atoponce: any Linksys WRT wireless router can be firmware upgraded to support a bridge (client-mode, or WDS). |
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| 18:19.45 | redbeard1 | levi: thanks for pointing me to that site. i had no idea michael ruhlman had a blog. |
| 18:33.07 | atoponce | fungus: yeah. i'm just looking for something cheap and small that i can carry with me |
| 18:33.15 | atoponce | i have a new question now |
| 18:33.58 | atoponce | how can i mount a remote ssh server in /etc/fstab? i would like any application to access it as a drive, although it's over ssh |
| 18:34.08 | beandog | its a fuse fs |
| 18:34.10 | beandog | I think. |
| 18:34.15 | atoponce | fuse fs? |
| 18:34.15 | beandog | either way, gotta install some software. |
| 18:34.35 | fungus | http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html |
| 18:34.36 | brac | [SSH Filesystem] |
| 18:34.49 | beandog | there ya go. |
| 18:34.52 | beandog | fungus++ |
| 18:35.23 | beandog | pretty cool stuff |
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| 18:40.42 | maquis | atoponce: did you read the discussion on #ubuntu-utah today? |
| 18:47.48 | atoponce | maquis: no. i haven't. |
| 18:48.24 | maquis | atoponce: ah... |
| 18:49.43 | tensai | fungus: ttl is part of the dns protocol. that's how it's passed from server to server. |
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| 18:50.30 | tensai | and even to the client. but gethostbyname() doesn't return that during a lookup. |
| 18:50.34 | tensai | dig will show you the ttl |
| 18:54.20 | fungus | TTL on normal records is part of the protocol, but TTL on negative caching is not. |
| 19:16.57 | tensai | there's a TTL for negative responses as well |
| 19:17.12 | tensai | I'm looking at one right now in ethereal |
| 19:17.17 | Supaplex | but question is, can you discover it via dig? |
| 19:19.16 | harleypig | LUNCH! |
| 19:19.20 | harleypig | Fuddruckers! |
| 19:19.53 | harleypig | we should have a monthly #utah luncheon |
| 19:22.23 | QBFreak | my boss has a PC that the BIOS does not recognize any of the CD-ROM drives to boot them |
| 19:22.37 | QBFreak | it had booted one once before, but no more |
| 19:22.40 | tensai | ;noway.yahoo.com. IN A |
| 19:22.44 | QBFreak | all the usual BIOS settings look good |
| 19:22.46 | tensai | yahoo.com. 473 IN SOA ns1.yahoo.com. hostmaster.yahoo-inc.com. 2007020905 3600 300 1814400 600 |
| 19:23.02 | QBFreak | tried new cables, new drives, disconnected nearly everything lese |
| 19:23.03 | QBFreak | else |
| 19:23.05 | tensai | 473 is the current TTL that my dns server returned |
| 19:23.07 | QBFreak | we're out of ideas |
| 19:25.15 | Supaplex | linuxbios ;-0 |
| 19:25.26 | Supaplex | rma? |
| 19:32.42 | tensai | anybody ever used JFFNMS? |
| 19:32.50 | tensai | http://www.jffnms.org/features.php |
| 19:32.56 | brac | [Features - JFFNMS - Just for Fun Network Management System] |
| 19:34.25 | redbeard1 | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?productID=142 |
| 19:34.27 | brac | [J!NX - Computer Baby Creeper - Hello World Baby Creeper] |
| 19:34.59 | redbeard1 | i may have to order that, behind my wife's back |
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| 19:50.04 | ^Migs^ | does anyone here know anything about XSL-FO? No one's answering in #xml, and this is an XSL-FO EMERGENCY |
| 19:50.37 | ^Migs^ | I can't figure out how to properly float: left fo:blocks |
| 19:51.29 | jsmith | ^Migs^: You could try asking in #docbook. |
| 19:51.57 | jsmith | ^Migs^: It's a long shot, but people in there are smart about that sort of thing. |
| 19:52.13 | dataw0lf | aieeeeeeeee, someone is playing a rush limbaugh recording in the office |
| 19:52.24 | ^Migs^ | I could use some more smart people |
| 19:52.25 | PeregrineFalcon | ~lart goozbach |
| 19:58.23 | ^Migs^ | ~lart xsl-fo |
| 19:59.13 | Supaplex | ~burn xsl-fo |
| 19:59.22 | ibot | ACTION pours gasoline all over xsl-fo, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 19:59.26 | dataw0lf | ~burninate xsl-fo |
| 19:59.28 | ibot | ACTION burninates xsl-fo and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 20:00.00 | dataw0lf | I need some good music to listen to after hearing Rush Limbaugh for thirty seconds. |
| 20:00.05 | dataw0lf | but my mp3 player is dead :\ |
| 20:00.41 | tene | dataw0lf: so sing! |
| 20:00.47 | ^Migs^ | ~whalenuke xsl-fo |
| 20:00.50 | ibot | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around xsl-fo with his mind powers |
| 20:01.14 | Supaplex | dataw0lf: www.knobtweakers.net |
| 20:03.51 | dataw0lf | I'm listening to Al Franken stream, thanks though |
| 20:04.13 | dataw0lf | I need to figure out how to mount a small camera on my markers now.. |
| 20:04.24 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: you ever mounted any video cameras on your markers? |
| 20:05.54 | dataw0lf | ah, sweet, RAP sells em |
| 20:05.57 | dataw0lf | http://rap4.com/paintball/os/tactical-gear-land-warrior-c-33_354.html |
| 20:05.58 | brac | [RAP4 Land Warrior Video Camera System] |
| 20:11.21 | dataw0lf | http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/dhenninger/?id=110009638 |
| 20:11.22 | dataw0lf | awesome |
| 20:24.18 | rsimpkins | Does Clint Savage ever hang out in here? |
| 20:24.54 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Yes, quite often, actually... he's herlo |
| 20:24.57 | maquis | rsimpkins: isn't that herlo? |
| 20:24.58 | jsmith | herlo: You awake? |
| 20:25.01 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Oh, okay. |
| 20:25.10 | jsmith | ~wake herlo |
| 20:25.26 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on herlo and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 20:25.30 | tene | ~lart herlo |
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| 20:54.26 | atoponce | ok |
| 20:55.05 | atoponce | i have 3 spans that i want to appear side by side, but i can't get it to work |
| 20:55.16 | atoponce | they are always going one on top of the other |
| 20:55.25 | ^Migs^ | smack them around, show them who's boss |
| 20:55.37 | atoponce | the left and right spans need to be 9px, with the middle filling in what's left |
| 20:55.44 | ^Migs^ | pastebin your code |
| 20:55.51 | atoponce | will do |
| 20:59.00 | atoponce | http://pastebin.ca/347983 |
| 20:59.07 | tensai | how about OpenNMS? Anybody used that one? |
| 20:59.09 | atoponce | both html and css are in that file |
| 21:00.15 | atoponce | obviously, i don't need the 'width: 80%' |
| 21:00.28 | atoponce | and i added the floats, hoping, that it would behave |
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| 21:00.56 | atoponce | .shadowRight *always* appears below .shadow |
| 21:01.22 | atoponce | .shadowLeft does appear inline with .shadow, which should be expected |
| 21:18.51 | ^Migs^ | http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/02/09/chat.lingo.ap/index.html |
| 21:18.56 | brac | [Students use IM-lingo in essays - CNN.com] |
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| 21:29.22 | atoponce | shouldn't that be maquis'? |
| 21:29.41 | levi | Opinions on that vary. |
| 21:30.14 | atoponce | i guess it could also depend on if the s is pronounced or not |
| 21:30.28 | atoponce | mah-kees or mah-kwee |
| 21:30.38 | atoponce | maquis: which is it? |
| 21:32.54 | SpecialZ | It's the latter |
| 21:33.20 | SpecialZ | curious that she created the original onjoin for me |
| 21:35.51 | maquis | mah-kee is the singular version |
| 21:35.57 | maquis | and the plural, i suppoes |
| 21:36.03 | maquis | yeah |
| 21:36.05 | maquis | it is |
| 21:36.12 | maquis | so, it's always said mah kee |
| 21:36.45 | atoponce | what does it mean? |
| 21:37.33 | dataw0lf | french guerillas |
| 21:37.46 | maquis | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis <-- i became aware of it via the star trek version, but it has a number of meanings |
| 21:41.49 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.52 | harleypig | SHRUBBERY! |
| 21:41.57 | harleypig | du duh duhnnnnnnn |
| 21:42.07 | maquis | harleypig: :) |
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| 21:43.51 | rsimpkins | HEAD KNIGHT: We want... a shrubbery! |
| 21:43.52 | rsimpkins | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.52 | rsimpkins | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.52 | rsimpkins | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.52 | rsimpkins | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.01 | rsimpkins | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.41 | harleypig | I've never programmed in PL/1 but isn't this one of those things that "should not be done"?(tm): http://pl1gcc.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:46.42 | brac | [PL/I for GCC] |
| 21:47.30 | ^Migs^ | http://www.freewebarcade.com/game/qwerty-warriors/ |
| 21:48.49 | atoponce | resistant guerilla shrubs? |
| 21:48.58 | atoponce | ooookaaaaay |
| 21:50.09 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.01 | atoponce | if people from utah are utahns, what are people from tampa? |
| 21:53.23 | fungus | TESTICLE! |
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| 21:53.26 | fungus | TAMPONS! |
| 21:54.15 | Supaplex | con:pro congress:??? |
| 21:54.46 | ^Migs^ | http://www.freewebarcade.com/game/qwerty-warriors/ |
| 21:54.53 | atoponce | or even better: if you spin an oriental around in a chair, does he become disoriented? |
| 21:55.15 | ^Migs^ | on that qwerty warriors I got on the top list on Impossible mode on my first try!!!! |
| 21:55.26 | ^Migs^ | try this one, too: http://www.tokenarcade.com/play-575-Distraction_Game.html |
| 21:56.13 | levi | harleypig: It couldn't be any worse than COBOL. |
| 21:57.07 | levi | harleypig: I think the primary problem with PL/1 was that it was just a really, really big language. Our standards of language bloat have changed somewhat since then, though. |
| 21:57.14 | Supaplex | let's run the enterpise on logo |
| 21:57.46 | levi | Hey now, logo is a cool language. |
| 21:58.01 | Supaplex | for eye candy |
| 21:58.15 | ^Migs^ | yes, logo produces phenomenal eye candy |
| 21:59.30 | levi | It's basically a lisp-like language with fixed procedure arity and no parentheses. |
| 22:00.09 | levi | The turtle graphics portion is not the whole language. |
| 22:02.31 | dataw0lf | ^Migs^ well that was easy |
| 22:02.54 | ^Migs^ | what was your score? |
| 22:03.11 | dataw0lf | 45950, #22, and I had to shut it off cuz I need to work |
| 22:04.06 | ^Migs^ | I'm only #48 now :( |
| 22:04.21 | beandog | atoponce: lol, thats great |
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| 22:11.11 | graphyx | I got 18350 in dvorak |
| 22:13.43 | ^Migs^ | there's no such thing as a dvorak warrior |
| 22:14.54 | findlay | but his symphonic poems are excellent |
| 22:17.06 | ^Migs^ | what's the best software to use for running a web server off a PocketPC? |
| 22:17.35 | Supaplex | better than linux? |
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| 22:18.04 | ^Migs^ | that does not make him a warrior |
| 22:24.07 | dataw0lf | ^Migs^: ApacheCE mebbe? |
| 22:24.59 | ^Migs^ | oh nice |
| 22:25.01 | ^Migs^ | thx |
| 22:26.05 | ^Migs^ | now I just need a compiler for the pocketPC |
| 22:27.55 | findlay | gcc? |
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| 23:19.50 | FN_Heath | Well, good evening :) |
| 23:21.47 | FN_Heath | Oh, that's nice. No one around? |
| 23:23.20 | dataw0lf | Nope. I think everyone is glued to the news due to the nuclear attack |
| 23:23.37 | tene | ??? |
| 23:23.44 | tene | something something attack? |
| 23:24.00 | dataw0lf | >:-] |
| 23:24.09 | macnewbold | ~lart dataw0lf |
| 23:24.09 | FN_Heath | I hope your joking. I haven't seen the news in two months. |
| 23:24.16 | macnewbold | he's been doing that a lot lately... |
| 23:24.19 | tene | dataw0lf is full of lies? |
| 23:24.21 | FN_Heath | I think by "nuclear" he meant "Anne Nicole Smith" |
| 23:24.27 | macnewbold | yesterday in #uphpu he said that Anna Nicole Smith died or something |
| 23:24.45 | tene | so what's so important about this Anna woman that everyone cares that she died? |
| 23:25.10 | dataw0lf | oooooooooooooooh |
| 23:25.13 | dataw0lf | FN_Heath! |
| 23:25.14 | dataw0lf | hahahaha |
| 23:25.16 | dataw0lf | you're back |
| 23:25.19 | dataw0lf | got kicked out yet? |
| 23:25.33 | FN_Heath | No, Graduated earlier today. |
| 23:25.42 | dataw0lf | dang |
| 23:25.46 | dataw0lf | looks like I owe someone some money |
| 23:25.53 | FN_Heath | I'm using one of the pay-to-use piece of crap computers at the recruit NEX |
| 23:26.01 | tene | so what's so important about this Anna woman that everyone cares that she died? |
| 23:26.24 | dataw0lf | tene: she's a famous, uhm, how to say it nicely, promiscious woman |
| 23:26.40 | FN_Heath | Laughing at the recruits getting yelled at because their phone call time is up :) |
| 23:26.55 | tene | So... are these people all sad that they didn't get to have sex with her before she died or something? |
| 23:27.05 | macnewbold | tene: her most distinguishing features from what I understand were an affinity for very old rich men and their estates, her breasts, and her extreme blondeness (in the intelligence sense) |
| 23:27.06 | FN_Heath | hahaha |
| 23:27.21 | FN_Heath | ~lart CGI:IRC |
| 23:27.35 | tene | That... uh... that's boring. |
| 23:27.45 | dataw0lf | tene: just another example of the typical American's obsession with a dumb celebrity that offers nothing to society |
| 23:27.57 | tene | That's stupid. |
| 23:28.06 | dataw0lf | yea. |
| 23:28.16 | FN_Heath | She's not particularly attractive, IMHO. |
| 23:28.47 | dataw0lf | most ex strippers / playboy playmates that gain 400 hundred lbs usually aren't. |
| 23:28.47 | FN_Heath | And thats from Seaman-Recruit-hasn't-seen-a-decent-woman-in-two-months Heath |
| 23:30.13 | levi | FN_Heath: Ahh, I was wondering when you were going to show up again. Congrats on graduating. |
| 23:30.17 | FN_Heath | Man, having an ear infection during whats supposed to be your free time really sucks. |
| 23:30.29 | tene | congrats mheath |
| 23:30.31 | FN_Heath | levi: thanks |
| 23:30.44 | FN_Heath | Now I get to go through one of the most challenging academic programs in the world. |
| 23:31.50 | FN_Heath | NNPTU in Charleston :) |
| 23:32.20 | dataw0lf | EE? |
| 23:32.40 | FN_Heath | No, Navy Nuclear Power. |
| 23:32.49 | dataw0lf | err, ET? |
| 23:32.56 | FN_Heath | EM. |
| 23:33.02 | dataw0lf | I know what NNPTU is, I was going to join ET at NNPTU |
| 23:33.14 | dataw0lf | before I realized I wanted to be a groundpounder |
| 23:33.16 | macnewbold | FN_Heath: Ah, the former mheath! Well howdy do! |
| 23:33.40 | FN_Heath | macnewbold: hey :) |
| 23:34.03 | FN_Heath | dataw0lf: I assume by ET your talking Electronic's Technician |
| 23:34.06 | FN_Heath | I wanted to be an ET |
| 23:34.21 | dataw0lf | yes, there's ET, EM, and MM, correct? |
| 23:34.31 | FN_Heath | But what rating you get is based on a mix of your desires and the Navy's needs |
| 23:34.33 | FN_Heath | dataw0lf: yes |
| 23:34.46 | FN_Heath | I was the only one in my division here to get my last choice :( |
| 23:35.06 | FN_Heath | I prioritized them as ET, MM, and EM and I'm going to be an EM. |
| 23:36.17 | dataw0lf | sucks for you |
| 23:36.33 | FN_Heath | Man, I'm going to run. I don't want to waste more money on this internet appliance and theres some other websites I want to look at |
| 23:36.45 | FN_Heath | Stupid thing only lets you have one browser wiindow at a time |
| 23:37.20 | FN_Heath | $0.10 per minute |
| 23:37.36 | FN_Heath | maybe I'll pop back in here later if I feel like it. |
| 23:37.40 | dataw0lf | bye. |
| 23:37.40 | levi | Seeya, mheath. |
| 23:44.32 | fungus | guarantee randomness in your code. http://xkcd.com/c221.html |
| 23:44.33 | brac | [xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe] |
| 23:44.57 | dataw0lf | anyone have an invite to Joost? |
| 23:45.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Be sure to read the alt text to that image |
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| 23:56.52 | maquis | ~lart PeregrineFalcon |