| 00:00.06 | goozbach | that's another good one |
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| 02:05.48 | findlay | where is sjansen when I need him? |
| 02:06.06 | tene | cackling maniacally? |
| 02:10.30 | macnewbold | actually, I think he's in Virginia |
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| 02:22.28 | jsmith | sjansen is in Virginia |
| 02:22.38 | jsmith | I mean, sjansen is in Virginia? |
| 02:22.50 | jsmith | I'm the only one in here in Virginia, I think |
| 02:23.19 | macnewbold | sjansen is just there temporarily |
| 02:25.13 | findlay | yes, sjansen, there is a Virginia |
| 02:33.12 | emcnabb | sjansen is in Tyson's Corner, Virginia |
| 02:34.25 | jsmith | Cool! |
| 02:34.55 | jsmith | I should take him to lunch or something tomorrow, but I can't. |
| 02:34.57 | jsmith | :-( |
| 02:35.05 | jsmith | Anyway, time to go offline |
| 02:35.17 | tene | Is he bringing back a gift for the channel? |
| 02:35.20 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 02:42.57 | findlay | sjansen is going to perform some magick on my LaTeX style |
| 02:48.43 | elg | I feel so... boyscout |
| 02:54.56 | findlay | my English teacher will not be able to tell the difference between my LaTex generated paper and the genuine(R) Microsoft(R) Word[TM] produce |
| 02:56.38 | elg | why? did you dumb down latex? or did you dumb down the teacher? |
| 02:58.25 | elg | i made some darned good sourdough bread today |
| 02:58.25 | elg | which will in turn make some darned good poor knights of windsor |
| 03:02.20 | levi_home | elg: Poor Knights of Windsor? |
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| 03:07.21 | findlay | elg: http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/mla-paper/ |
| 03:16.11 | nick125_lappy | hahahahahha http://www.degredo.net/ |
| 03:16.58 | nick125_lappy | I've been using LaTeX for a long time for my papers =) |
| 03:33.43 | Lone_Wanderer | What was the essay where an Englishman said it would be a good idea to eat the children of the poor? |
| 03:41.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Ahh, "A Modest Proposal" by Swift |
| 03:43.30 | tene | Well they make so *many* of them. |
| 03:43.42 | tene | And they're different enough to be a different *species* |
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| 04:05.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Linux ksb 2.6.19.2 #5 SMP Mon Jan 29 14:31:15 MST 2007 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 04:05.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That's better |
| 04:05.41 | Sargun | Linux god 2.6.18-suspend2-r1 #1 SMP Mon Jan 1 00:30:50 PST 2007 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 04:05.48 | Sargun | :-) |
| 04:06.05 | ScytheBlade1 | x86_64 <-- that's the part I like ;) |
| 04:06.36 | Sargun | -_- |
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| 04:50.36 | emcnabb | off to the hospital... it's baby time |
| 04:53.12 | Lone_Wanderer | good luck |
| 04:55.34 | tensai | ~rlart |
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| 05:02.46 | elg | levi_home: french toast |
| 05:02.51 | elg | that's what they call it in england |
| 05:06.00 | elg | findlay: that is sick. sick. sick. |
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| 05:34.33 | justingiboney | so I am back tonight with more objc qs |
| 05:35.12 | justingiboney | in linux is there <Foundation/foundation.h> and if not what do I use for strings and arrays |
| 05:40.00 | justingiboney | i guess everyone went to sleep early tonight |
| 06:09.17 | findlay | elg: I don't understand |
| 06:11.24 | Sargun | dilvie, POKE! |
| 06:11.46 | dilvie | what!? |
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| 06:24.18 | findlay | ~poke dilvie |
| 06:24.20 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind dilvie, pokes dilvie repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 06:24.32 | findlay | ~understand elg |
| 06:24.37 | dilvie | hm |
| 06:30.30 | KD19 | I am confused. What kind of channel is this? |
| 06:32.05 | Newsome | an IRC channel. |
| 06:32.54 | findlay | channel 13 |
| 06:33.00 | findlay | the twilight zone |
| 06:33.13 | findlay | ~spook KD19 |
| 06:33.29 | findlay | ~scare KD19 |
| 06:33.30 | ibot | ACTION puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at KD19 |
| 06:34.09 | KD19 | Interesting. |
| 06:34.20 | findlay | indeed |
| 06:34.34 | dilvie | KD19: this is the channel where ibot randomly smacks people around |
| 06:34.48 | findlay | -lart ibot |
| 06:35.11 | dilvie | once in a while, brac jumps in |
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| 08:41.03 | Sargun | who here sleeps? |
| 08:41.19 | dilvie | me |
| 08:41.24 | dilvie | far too much, probably |
| 08:45.15 | Sargun | dilvie, What's up? |
| 08:47.57 | dilvie | trying to organize a fairly big photo shoot |
| 09:07.56 | Sargun | ah |
| 09:07.57 | Sargun | fun |
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| 13:53.02 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for OSS discussion | http://www.plug.org/node/28 | Do you like green eggs and ham? |
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| 14:02.22 | goozbach | good morning #utah |
| 14:15.53 | redbeard1 | mornin' |
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| 14:51.47 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The channel for OSS discussion | http://www.plug.org/node/28 | Do you like green eggs and ham? | Did the greenhog see its shadow Sam I Am? |
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| 15:03.09 | redbeard1 | i kind of like this google docs and spreadsheets thing |
| 15:09.57 | elg | hehe |
| 15:09.58 | elg | http://www.groundhog.org/ |
| 15:10.10 | elg | Sorry, Unable to process request at this time -- error 999. |
| 15:10.25 | elg | looks like yahoo can't handle groundhog day traffic |
| 15:10.50 | graphyx | it worked for me just fine. |
| 15:11.11 | graphyx | I want to see some post prediction analysis for Phil. |
| 15:11.15 | elg | ah, it's working now |
| 15:11.26 | sjansen | Phil has never been wrong. |
| 15:11.28 | graphyx | What is his track record? |
| 15:12.14 | graphyx | Is he any better than your average meteorologist? |
| 15:15.38 | elg | ~hog redbeard1 |
| 15:16.11 | redbeard1 | ~whaleslap elg |
| 15:16.13 | ibot | ACTION beats elg upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 15:21.41 | redbeard1 | looks like phil's track record is pretty spotty |
| 15:22.11 | redbeard1 | http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/extremes/2006/groundhog.html |
| 15:24.10 | graphyx | wow it looks almost like unrelated data sets!!! |
| 15:24.21 | graphyx | Who would have thought that? |
| 15:25.18 | elg | lol |
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| 15:28.59 | goozbach | now to compare a "good" meterologist against the climate data |
| 15:29.07 | elg | ok, i'm looking at a form that has a couple of select tags with the same name attribute |
| 15:29.30 | elg | name="productOptions[]" |
| 15:30.01 | elg | so when the form is submitted, does productOptions have a list of values? (each option tag is unique across the select tags) |
| 15:30.26 | elg | or is there some magic javascript involved? |
| 15:31.45 | elg | my question is whether I can replace the select/option stuff with input tags. ie one for each select tag with a preselected option (this is javascript-written by a flash applet) |
| 15:32.26 | redbeard1 | well, i know it depends on the server and language, but... when apache/perl receives the same value multiple times in one post, you can pull them into an array... but with iis/perl, you can't. |
| 15:32.33 | redbeard1 | i don't know if that helps you or not |
| 15:33.00 | vontrapp | i think the [] on the name means allow multiple datum |
| 15:33.15 | vontrapp | i've used it before, i'm racking my brain but it's too early |
| 15:33.42 | maquis | tgif |
| 15:34.19 | vontrapp | togas are grey in france? |
| 15:34.38 | elg | ok. well it sounds like switching to input from select should work fine, if selects worked fine |
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| 15:35.16 | vontrapp | i think multiple select fields is where i've used it before |
| 15:35.56 | vontrapp | and i think it depends on the actual language you're using to process the forms whether you need [] or not |
| 15:36.13 | vontrapp | in php i needed to put [] on the name |
| 15:37.26 | vontrapp | otherwise it would just grab them all as a long string delimited by something |
| 15:37.37 | vontrapp | iirc |
| 15:39.03 | fozzmoo | wahoo! |
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| 15:39.21 | fozzmoo | maquis: Very TGIF! |
| 15:39.39 | vontrapp | what's this obsession with togas? |
| 15:39.54 | maquis | ... |
| 15:40.02 | elg | it's php |
| 15:40.36 | vontrapp | ~tgif |
| 15:40.38 | ibot | i guess tgif is Thank Goodness It's Friday! or, some say it has something to do with a vector-based draw tool at http://bourbon.cs.umd.edu:8001/tgif/ |
| 15:40.40 | maquis | harry potter fans... get your orders in |
| 15:41.14 | vontrapp | ~order pot for maquis |
| 15:41.19 | vontrapp | er, potter |
| 15:43.22 | sjansen | Man, when I first started teaching, I wasn't sure I'd be able to teach for a week straight 8 hours a day. |
| 15:43.30 | vontrapp | when does doctor who start again? |
| 15:43.35 | sjansen | Turns out, it's not all that hard to learn how to fill time with words. |
| 15:44.45 | herlo | sjansen: I hear ya |
| 15:46.00 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for OSS discussion | http://www.plug.org/node/28 | Need some good "stuff"? vontrapp is dealing |
| 15:46.31 | Jayce^ | sjansen, great, glad you're willing to present more often :) |
| 15:46.38 | Jayce^ | we'll sign you up for a few months |
| 15:46.43 | sjansen | Jayce^: Uhm... I think I'll be on the road that week. |
| 15:48.33 | sjansen | Actually, I'm willing to present, but everyone has to agree to listen for at least 4 hours then buy me dinner at Tucanos. |
| 15:49.16 | Jayce^ | mm, it's about tucano's time again.. |
| 15:49.37 | sjansen | Teaching is hard work, you know, and it takes an expensive meal at a good restaurant to restore the... uhm... vocal cords. |
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| 15:50.45 | sjansen | Although I am willing to accept less expensive meals at great Thai restaurants. |
| 15:52.38 | goozbach | sjansen: don't underestimate the power of a decent mexican place |
| 15:52.40 | maquis | mmm |
| 15:54.14 | sjansen | But the quality of a mexican meal is often inversely proportional to the price giving me little motivation to spend my per diem on Mexican. |
| 15:54.53 | goozbach | mexican for dinner, then go somewhere else for desert! |
| 15:55.07 | goozbach | and spend $20 on desert |
| 15:55.11 | sjansen | Which reminds me, I had a chocolate creme brulee last night. |
| 15:55.11 | goozbach | dessert |
| 15:55.12 | goozbach | bah |
| 15:55.17 | goozbach | pineapple |
| 15:55.22 | goozbach | can't spllel |
| 15:55.25 | goozbach | spel |
| 15:55.28 | goozbach | sppell |
| 15:55.28 | maquis | go for "dodgy chinese" |
| 15:55.30 | maquis | it's good |
| 15:55.32 | goozbach | dah! |
| 15:55.39 | goozbach | tyson's corner? |
| 15:55.43 | sjansen | yup |
| 15:55.49 | goozbach | there's great asian food at the mall there |
| 15:55.56 | goozbach | teaching onsite at HP? |
| 15:56.02 | goozbach | or the new-horizions? |
| 15:56.15 | sjansen | It was delicious, but not the heaven I thought it'd be. The chocolate masked the flavor of the toasted sugar. |
| 15:56.28 | sjansen | RH HQ |
| 15:56.36 | goozbach | ahh |
| 15:56.46 | sjansen | The corner oven^?^?^?^?classroom. |
| 15:57.29 | maquis | joy of tech is sadly true |
| 16:04.02 | emcnabb | wooohoo, I'm a dad :-) |
| 16:04.13 | maquis | emcnabb: congrats!!!! |
| 16:04.33 | maquis | emcnabb: weight? etc? |
| 16:04.50 | maquis | emcnabb: it's a girl, right? |
| 16:06.37 | emcnabb | girl, 6 lbs, 18 inches, cries, eats, and poops |
| 16:06.48 | maquis | emcnabb: cool! |
| 16:06.57 | maquis | very exciting |
| 16:07.04 | maquis | i'll be expecting to see pics sometime soon :) |
| 16:07.51 | emcnabb | maquis: I'm uploading them right now; the hospital has a SLOW net connection, especially when youre uploading a bunch of pictures |
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| 16:08.44 | maquis | emcnabb: cool |
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| 16:09.01 | maquis | you'd think hospitals would have better connections... |
| 16:09.02 | graphyx | emcnabb: good job. |
| 16:09.09 | graphyx | A father is you! |
| 16:09.26 | maquis | emcnabb: tell lisa that i send her my congratulations |
| 16:09.46 | herlo | emcnabb: cool man, how many is that now? |
| 16:10.15 | graphyx | I think that it is his first, no? |
| 16:10.28 | emcnabb | herlo: #1 |
| 16:10.48 | emcnabb | everyone is doing well, but we're all tired |
| 16:11.02 | herlo | emcnabb: being tired won't change for a while |
| 16:11.04 | herlo | ;) |
| 16:11.06 | emcnabb | haha |
| 16:11.23 | emcnabb | I've had 2 hrs of sleep in the last 30 hrs |
| 16:11.34 | maquis | emcnabb: and you won't be getting a whole lot more |
| 16:11.35 | herlo | something like at least 30 years or so I am told |
| 16:11.54 | herlo | I'm 6 years in, almost 7 |
| 16:12.09 | herlo | still lose sleep sometimes over the kid |
| 16:14.45 | ^Migs^ | congratuLATIONS emcnabb, that is SOO awesome |
| 16:15.10 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, that's pretty normal amount for the next two years or so :) |
| 16:15.47 | elg | emcnabb: it's not as bad as all that. Jayce^ is just trying to scare you into hitting ^C |
| 16:15.48 | QBFreak | emcnabb: congrats |
| 16:15.54 | elg | emcnabb: there goes the generation |
| 16:20.33 | emcnabb | thanks all |
| 16:20.41 | emcnabb | back to calling people... |
| 16:20.53 | findlay | ~call emcnabb |
| 16:20.55 | ibot | ACTION looks around and then screams out emcnabb as loudly as possible |
| 16:20.58 | beandog | another benefit of having no friends |
| 16:21.05 | beandog | no one to tell |
| 16:21.07 | beandog | suckahs! |
| 16:21.12 | redbeard1 | emcnabb: congrats! |
| 16:21.17 | beandog | congrats, emcnabb :) |
| 16:23.17 | vontrapp | that's odd |
| 16:23.31 | vontrapp | i seem somehow to have gotten one instance of irssi running in two screen sessions |
| 16:24.28 | findlay | how'd you do that? |
| 16:25.20 | vontrapp | dunno |
| 16:26.22 | findlay | vontrapp: I need some good "stuff" |
| 16:26.47 | vontrapp | ~stuff findlay |
| 16:26.51 | ibot | ACTION grab's findlay, fills them up with stuffing, and sticks them in the oven |
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| 16:31.13 | Jayce^ | hey elg which version of audacity do you use on your mac? |
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| 16:52.25 | goozbach | vontrapp: it's probally a split access screen session |
| 16:52.26 | emcnabb | wow, I didn't think a newborn could poop so much... |
| 16:52.37 | maquis | emcnabb: lol |
| 16:52.45 | goozbach | or one screen session inside of another |
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| 16:54.30 | goozbach | dead! |
| 16:55.30 | \me | For all you Perl developers: |
| 16:55.32 | \me | http://www.xkcd.com/c208.html |
| 16:57.58 | beandog | all three of em |
| 16:58.59 | redbeard1 | ~whalebomb harleypig for making me listen to bluegrass hair metal |
| 16:59.10 | ibot | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at harleypig for making me listen to bluegrass hair metal and hides. |
| 16:59.16 | goozbach | redbeard1, Jayce^, goozbach, and fozz |
| 16:59.21 | goozbach | there are four of us |
| 16:59.23 | goozbach | geez |
| 16:59.25 | \me | hey - don't forget me! |
| 16:59.30 | findlay | me too! |
| 16:59.43 | goozbach | six then |
| 16:59.51 | \me | my licence plate *does* say "USE PERL" |
| 17:00.09 | findlay | that's almost enough to make a string of them |
| 17:00.22 | beandog | oy. |
| 17:00.54 | redbeard1 | harleypig and neybar are perl guys too |
| 17:01.22 | \me | I'd hate to say this, but I think the non-perl guys are surrounded |
| 17:01.34 | \me | and they never knew it |
| 17:01.34 | redbeard1 | ping harleypig |
| 17:01.54 | redbeard1 | hey everybody! everytime you say harleypig, his computer makes a sound! |
| 17:02.05 | \me | hey - we know regular expressions - we *will* find you ;-) |
| 17:02.06 | QBFreak | who, harleypig? |
| 17:02.16 | harleypig | Not anymore |
| 17:02.17 | redbeard1 | yeah, harleypig |
| 17:02.18 | \me | harleypig: harleypig harleypig harleypig harleypig |
| 17:02.21 | redbeard1 | aww, shoot |
| 17:02.32 | redbeard1 | it ws fun while it lasted |
| 17:02.54 | QBFreak | heh |
| 17:03.04 | \me | I love working from home |
| 17:03.52 | ^Migs^ | http://imreallysad.com/119 |
| 17:03.55 | harleypig | Notice how he only needed 2 taps ... |
| 17:03.56 | Jayce^ | harleypig, I need to show/inflict those songs on nate and mike... |
| 17:05.24 | \me | rule #1 - never hug a lion |
| 17:06.43 | ^Migs^ | haha http://imreallysad.com/457 |
| 17:06.49 | harleypig | Jayce^: It's up on incoming/mp3 |
| 17:06.55 | harleypig | Hayseed Dixie |
| 17:06.56 | Jayce^ | thx |
| 17:07.06 | ^Migs^ | http://imreallysad.com/203 |
| 17:07.10 | ^Migs^ | that's just funny ^^^ |
| 17:07.13 | ^Migs^ | a bit scary |
| 17:08.25 | harleypig | great big fangs |
| 17:09.06 | glitch- | hehe |
| 17:10.50 | harleypig | anyone familiar with amarok? |
| 17:11.28 | redbeard1 | harleypig: i think neybar is |
| 17:11.42 | levi | harleypig: How familiar do you need? |
| 17:11.49 | ^Migs^ | http://imreallysad.com/187 |
| 17:11.53 | ^Migs^ | wtf is this? http://imreallysad.com/161 |
| 17:11.56 | harleypig | Is there a way to make amarok work similarly to last.fm or pandora, but with my local music? Just pick a song at random and weight it against some parms and play it or not. |
| 17:12.36 | levi | I think that's what some feature I played with for a while was doing. |
| 17:13.20 | harleypig | I know how to make a playlist, but I don't want to make a playlist out of my entire collection, especially since it's constantly being added to. I just want it to pick a song from the collection. |
| 17:13.21 | levi | I picked a song and it kept playing others from my library that were like it. |
| 17:14.01 | harleypig | Hmm ... I'll have to try that. |
| 17:14.11 | levi | Let me see if I can find what option I used... |
| 17:15.44 | harleypig | Even nicer would be a way to integrate amarok with pandora ... but I think that's pandoras issue |
| 17:17.08 | levi | Ahh, it was the Dynamic Playlists 'Suggested Songs', I think. |
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| 17:28.37 | elg | Jayce^: the beta one (1.3.2) |
| 17:28.43 | elg | the old one is so yesterday |
| 17:30.09 | elg | oh no. luther vandross and kermit the frog duet |
| 17:31.30 | elg | oh wait, it's ernie |
| 17:31.57 | elg | and aaron neville |
| 17:32.04 | elg | the effect is the same though |
| 17:32.24 | harleypig | levi, that was sort of it. Thanks. I can just hit repopulate when I want new songs. |
| 17:33.08 | levi | harleypig: I think it communicates with whatever service runs last.fm to get the song suggestions. |
| 17:33.14 | levi | audioscrobbler? |
| 17:37.54 | harleypig | sounds right |
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| 17:46.00 | ^Migs^ | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21158668-2,00.html |
| 17:54.21 | Jayce^ | elg, hrm, neither of them run on my mb pro |
| 18:06.17 | ^Migs^ | why do coworkers who are talking to me through IM say, "What's your phone extension, I want to talk to you."???? |
| 18:09.07 | ^Migs^ | even our db admin does that |
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| 18:12.07 | macnewbold | http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix |
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| 18:15.12 | elg | Jayce^: doesn't work? |
| 18:15.56 | Jayce^ | yeah, binaries won't run... |
| 18:17.17 | elg | hm |
| 18:17.20 | elg | no problem here |
| 18:17.26 | elg | does it say anything? |
| 18:17.28 | elg | anything in the logs? |
| 18:18.11 | elg | "Look at this, there should be like a million emails in the trash but there's only like 4 months" |
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| 18:27.22 | s4founder | macnewbold: maybe if you say everybody's name it will get their collective attention and digg your story |
| 18:27.33 | s4founder | or maybe they'll just kick you :) |
| 18:28.52 | goozbach | checka the digg above |
| 18:28.58 | goozbach | -urls |
| 18:28.59 | brac | [2006/09/01 18:25:57] <atoponce> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_programming_language |
| 18:28.59 | brac | [2006/09/01 18:20:18] <harleypig> http://www.teamhoyt.com/ |
| 18:28.59 | brac | [2006/09/01 14:41:51] <rsimpkins> http://www.arrivaltel.com/ |
| 18:28.59 | brac | [2006/09/01 14:23:46] <harleypig> http://qdb.us/64488 |
| 18:29.09 | goozbach | wha? |
| 18:29.27 | goozbach | brac: urls 30 |
| 18:29.28 | brac | [2006/09/01 18:25:57] <atoponce> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_programming_language |
| 18:29.28 | brac | [2006/09/01 18:20:18] <harleypig> http://www.teamhoyt.com/ |
| 18:29.28 | brac | [2006/09/01 14:41:51] <rsimpkins> http://www.arrivaltel.com/ |
| 18:29.28 | brac | [2006/09/01 14:23:46] <harleypig> http://qdb.us/64488 |
| 18:29.29 | brac | [2006/09/01 08:49:10] <[Utah]tristanbob> http://www.mailscanner.info/ |
| 18:29.29 | brac | [2006/08/31 19:16:20] <graphyx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notary_public |
| 18:29.30 | brac | [2006/08/31 14:00:07] <elg> http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~schmidt/text/densem.html |
| 18:29.32 | brac | [2006/08/31 09:57:03] <emcnabb> http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm5/projectedpath_large.html |
| 18:29.34 | brac | [2006/08/31 09:48:05] <Tene> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003523.html |
| 18:29.36 | brac | [2006/08/31 09:45:00] <Tene> http://itsnotallbad.com/iamnotaterrorist/ |
| 18:30.00 | macnewbold | hm |
| 18:30.06 | macnewbold | well for those who missed it, |
| 18:30.10 | macnewbold | here's the digg link: |
| 18:30.18 | macnewbold | http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix |
| 18:30.35 | macnewbold | I don't know why brac wasn't paying attention, and is spouting URLs from September |
| 18:30.42 | goozbach | digg it |
| 18:30.45 | elg | brac is broc |
| 18:31.56 | elg | i really don't know why I keep him around |
| 18:32.09 | elg | the urls thing was the original motivation, and it's broke |
| 18:38.15 | elg | brac is brigham |
| 18:38.56 | maquis | not really |
| 18:39.08 | maquis | brac acts differently from brigham |
| 18:39.15 | maquis | and has different knowledge from what brigham did |
| 18:39.21 | maquis | and doesn't have addlart and rmlart |
| 18:39.34 | Jayce^ | elg, every download says it thinks the binary is corrupt |
| 18:39.37 | elg | -addlart jumps up and down screaming |
| 18:39.38 | brac | okies! |
| 18:40.01 | elg | Jayce^: want a copy of my .app? maybe it's a bad release |
| 18:40.12 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 18:40.23 | maquis | elg: ok... maybe he does have addlart |
| 18:40.43 | maquis | but he still doesn't listen to what we say and answer questions |
| 18:41.32 | elg | -maquis? |
| 18:41.32 | brac | insufficient "keyword" auth (have 0, need 5) |
| 18:41.47 | elg | -maquis? |
| 18:41.48 | brac | maquis is the touch of death |
| 18:42.03 | elg | his auth is a bit messed up of late (maybe that's related to url storage?) |
| 18:42.24 | Jayce^ | elg, hrm, didn't work |
| 18:42.30 | Jayce^ | email? :-/ |
| 18:42.34 | maquis | brigham is cool |
| 18:42.34 | elg | jayce@plug.org? |
| 18:42.36 | maquis | -brigham? |
| 18:42.36 | brac | insufficient "keyword" auth (have 0, need 5) |
| 18:42.41 | elg | -brigham? |
| 18:42.41 | brac | no idea |
| 18:42.41 | Jayce^ | lug-nut.com |
| 18:42.42 | maquis | brigham? |
| 18:42.48 | maquis | see |
| 18:42.59 | maquis | he didn't hear when i said that brigham is cool |
| 18:43.19 | maquis | brigham would've seen that and learned from it |
| 18:43.33 | elg | i probably changed him to stop learning or whatever |
| 18:43.39 | maquis | and then if i had said "brigham?" he would've said "brigham is cool" |
| 18:43.40 | elg | he's not the same as brigham was |
| 18:43.49 | maquis | that's what i'm saying |
| 18:43.53 | maquis | he's not the same as brigham |
| 18:44.03 | elg | but he's as much brigham as I am the teenager that was me 10 years ago |
| 18:45.35 | elg | Jayce^: sent |
| 18:45.44 | maquis | except that he's not as smart, doesn't like to learn, and doesn't know a lot of the stuff that he knew before |
| 18:45.45 | Jayce^ | thanks |
| 18:46.16 | elg | sounds like a lot of people |
| 18:46.30 | maquis | -rps |
| 18:46.30 | brac | incorrect usage: roshambo <rock|paper|scissors> => play roshambo |
| 18:46.31 | nick125_lappy | Hahahahahhaahhahah |
| 18:46.33 | nick125_lappy | http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/ |
| 18:46.38 | maquis | -rps rock |
| 18:46.39 | brac | paper! I win! Score: me 1 you 0 |
| 18:47.11 | sontek_ | -rps paper |
| 18:47.11 | brac | paper. We tie. Score: me 0 you 0 |
| 18:47.18 | sontek_ | I think he only knows paper |
| 18:47.56 | elg | -rps rock |
| 18:47.56 | brac | paper! I win! Score: me 1 you 0 |
| 18:48.01 | tene | ~rps scissors |
| 18:48.04 | elg | -rps paper |
| 18:48.05 | brac | paper. We tie. Score: me 1 you 0 |
| 18:48.08 | elg | -rps rock |
| 18:48.08 | maquis | -rps rock |
| 18:48.09 | brac | rock. We tie. Score: me 1 you 0 |
| 18:48.09 | brac | paper! I win! Score: me 2 you 0 |
| 18:48.10 | tene | -rps scissors |
| 18:48.10 | brac | paper. You win. Score: me 0 you 1 |
| 18:48.11 | QBFreak | nick125_lappy: bah, I thought it was bad enough that I had to deal with that crap on windows |
| 18:48.13 | elg | -rps scissors |
| 18:48.13 | brac | scissors. We tie. Score: me 1 you 0 |
| 18:48.22 | elg | -rps scissors |
| 18:48.23 | brac | scissors. We tie. Score: me 1 you 0 |
| 18:48.24 | elg | -rps scissors |
| 18:48.24 | brac | rock! I win! Score: me 2 you 0 |
| 18:48.29 | dataw0lf | -rps rock |
| 18:48.29 | brac | rock. We tie. Score: me 0 you 0 |
| 18:48.32 | dataw0lf | -rps rock |
| 18:48.32 | brac | rock. We tie. Score: me 0 you 0 |
| 18:48.34 | dataw0lf | -rps rock |
| 18:48.35 | elg | maquis: unhealthy coincidences, that's all |
| 18:48.35 | brac | scissors. You win. Score: me 0 you 1 |
| 18:48.37 | dataw0lf | -rps rock |
| 18:48.38 | brac | paper! I win! Score: me 1 you 1 |
| 18:48.40 | dataw0lf | -rps rock |
| 18:48.40 | brac | rock. We tie. Score: me 1 you 1 |
| 18:48.42 | ^Migs^ | -rps paper |
| 18:48.42 | brac | scissors! I win! Score: me 1 you 0 |
| 18:48.44 | dataw0lf | -rps rock |
| 18:48.44 | brac | paper! I win! Score: me 2 you 1 |
| 18:48.45 | nick125_lappy | QBFreak: Hahahah |
| 18:48.47 | dataw0lf | -rps rock |
| 18:48.48 | brac | paper! I win! Score: me 3 you 1 |
| 18:48.51 | ^Migs^ | -rps dynamite |
| 18:48.51 | brac | incorrect usage: roshambo <rock|paper|scissors> => play roshambo |
| 18:49.03 | maquis | -roulette |
| 18:49.04 | brac | maquis: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:49.06 | ^Migs^ | -rps capgun |
| 18:49.06 | brac | incorrect usage: roshambo <rock|paper|scissors> => play roshambo |
| 18:49.07 | maquis | -roulette |
| 18:49.07 | brac | maquis: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:49.09 | maquis | -roulette |
| 18:49.09 | brac | maquis: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:49.11 | maquis | -roulette |
| 18:49.11 | brac | maquis: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 18:49.11 | QBFreak | -rps rock|paper|scissors |
| 18:49.13 | brac | incorrect usage: roshambo <rock|paper|scissors> => play roshambo |
| 18:49.16 | QBFreak | darn |
| 18:49.21 | QBFreak | I want to use all three! |
| 18:49.22 | ^Migs^ | -roulette |
| 18:49.22 | brac | ^Migs^: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
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| 18:49.25 | ^Migs^ | -roulette |
| 18:49.27 | maquis | -roulette |
| 18:49.32 | ^Migs^ | -roulette |
| 18:49.36 | QBFreak | you broke it! |
| 18:49.37 | ^Migs^ | ~whaleslap jsmith |
| 18:49.39 | ibot | ACTION beats jsmith upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:49.40 | ^Migs^ | uh oh |
| 18:49.42 | ^Migs^ | nice going maquis |
| 18:49.42 | brac | ^Migs^: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:49.42 | maquis | ^Migs^: you broke it! |
| 18:49.43 | brac | maquis: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:49.43 | brac | ^Migs^: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:49.49 | ^Migs^ | -roulette |
| 18:49.49 | brac | ^Migs^: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:49.51 | ^Migs^ | -roulette |
| 18:49.52 | brac | ^Migs^: chamber 6 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 18:49.53 | ^Migs^ | oops |
| 18:50.07 | maquis | ^Migs^: if you make it through the first 5 with clicks, it's kinda stupid to try again |
| 18:50.08 | ^Migs^ | if you get to the last chamber do you still have to click it? |
| 18:50.20 | ^Migs^ | I mean, if you were REALLY playing? |
| 18:50.40 | maquis | ^Migs^: thankfully, i'm not stupid enough to know the answer to that question |
| 18:50.51 | ^Migs^ | if I was playing russian roulette, when it was my turn, I'd just fire all the rounds into my opponent |
| 18:51.12 | ^Migs^ | superfast, like BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM |
| 18:51.16 | ^Migs^ | -1 BAM |
| 18:51.24 | QBFreak | Easy Off BAM? |
| 18:52.17 | macnewbold | you can tell when someone is new to the game when they decide to start up a game of russian roulette using a semi-automatic instead of a revolver |
| 18:52.29 | QBFreak | hehe |
| 18:52.43 | nick125_lappy | Hahaha |
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| 18:57.24 | goozbach | ~wtf snafu |
| 18:57.31 | goozbach | ahh |
| 18:57.39 | goozbach | ~language ibot |
| 18:57.40 | ibot | ACTION grabs ibot by the ear and washes ibot's mouth out with soap |
| 18:57.58 | tene | ^Migs^: in "real" russian roulette, you spin the chamber between each attempt. |
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| 19:03.02 | nick125_lappy | tene: Yeah... |
| 19:03.27 | nick125_lappy | I mean, if you don't spin between attempts, and, you keep shooting... |
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| 19:16.23 | harleypig | http://www.all-russian-roulette.com/ |
| 19:16.34 | harleypig | Last man still has to pull the trigger. |
| 19:16.44 | harleypig | pop-up alert |
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| 19:19.53 | nick125_lappy | soo...slow... |
| 19:21.50 | ^Migs^ | macnewbold, I'd like to put something like gradefix into our student portal. That would be pretty sweet |
| 19:22.07 | macnewbold | yeah, we're working on some stuff like that |
| 19:22.16 | macnewbold | some people are using the RSS feeds in portals I bet |
| 19:22.27 | macnewbold | which student portal is it? |
| 19:22.34 | ^Migs^ | here's another idea, too. Facilitate student-teacher homework distribution. A teacher can actually upload homework assignments with an estimated time to completion on them |
| 19:22.46 | ^Migs^ | then students can take them. Then mark them off as completed, and upload the work |
| 19:22.50 | ^Migs^ | www.wsdinfo.net |
| 19:23.01 | ^Migs^ | it's the portal I'm building |
| 19:23.07 | nick125_lappy | ^Migs^: I've thought of something like that before.. |
| 19:23.16 | ^Migs^ | I mentioned gradefix to my boss. He likes it |
| 19:23.34 | QBFreak | grade fixing? |
| 19:23.44 | QBFreak | is that where the teachers all agree to give everyone a C? |
| 19:23.48 | graphyx | I'd buy that for a dollar. |
| 19:23.49 | QBFreak | secretly |
| 19:23.57 | graphyx | er not really |
| 19:24.07 | ^Migs^ | you won't be able to see anything in the portal, macnewbold, but it's basically just the portal for students, parents, and administrators. Most people would be familiar with one, like Edline. |
| 19:24.14 | ^Migs^ | and universities have them too |
| 19:24.23 | ^Migs^ | where you get transcripts, course schedules, etc. |
| 19:24.34 | macnewbold | cool |
| 19:24.57 | ^Migs^ | has gradefix been generating good revenue so far? |
| 19:25.01 | macnewbold | ^Migs^: wsd=? |
| 19:25.07 | ^Migs^ | weber school district |
| 19:25.09 | macnewbold | we've been pretty happy with it's growth |
| 19:25.10 | macnewbold | nice |
| 19:25.23 | macnewbold | if they'd like to talk to us about doing it for the whole district or something, |
| 19:25.26 | macnewbold | we'd be interested |
| 19:25.33 | ^Migs^ | very cool |
| 19:25.48 | ^Migs^ | yeah, we might want to integrate gradefix technology somehow at some point. It's actually quite certain we want something like gradefix anyway. |
| 19:26.50 | ^Migs^ | seriously, that is NICE |
| 19:27.44 | macnewbold | I'm glad you like it |
| 19:27.48 | ^Migs^ | without revealing too much info, does the algorithm basically just take a last-minute approach? Homework only needs to get done in the days immediately before the due date? |
| 19:27.55 | macnewbold | we've had a lot of people telling us how much it helps them |
| 19:28.05 | macnewbold | it takes lots of things into account |
| 19:28.11 | ^Migs^ | that probably would've saved me numerous times in school |
| 19:28.23 | macnewbold | things like not working on another homework assignment from the same class until you finish the first one, |
| 19:28.47 | macnewbold | and keeping exam/quiz study as close as possible to the due date, while allowing homework and reading to be more flexible |
| 19:29.00 | ^Migs^ | that makes sense |
| 19:29.04 | macnewbold | letting people adjust the size of chunks it schedules to match their attention span, etc. |
| 19:29.33 | macnewbold | we built it mostly for college, but have had a ton of high schoolers, and even jr high and elementary kids who have either signed up or been signed up by their parents |
| 19:29.48 | ^Migs^ | yeah, it seems quite flexible |
| 19:29.49 | tene | macnewbold: link? |
| 19:30.14 | macnewbold | go here first: http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix |
| 19:30.24 | macnewbold | then you can go here: http://www.gradefix.com/ |
| 19:31.28 | harleypig | macnewbold: Do you have any reports on the success for jr high students? |
| 19:31.53 | macnewbold | harleypig: at this point, it is mostly anecdotal, but it seems to work just fine |
| 19:31.55 | harleypig | s/success/success rate/ |
| 19:32.04 | macnewbold | they can adjust it to the smaller assignments quite easily |
| 19:32.16 | macnewbold | and it works well with a seven class schedule |
| 19:32.19 | harleypig | I'll have to check it out. |
| 19:32.25 | macnewbold | it's free if you want to try it |
| 19:32.34 | macnewbold | also a 30day free trial of the full/premium version even |
| 19:32.40 | harleypig | Can you put any assignment into it? |
| 19:32.54 | macnewbold | any assignment, task, todo, extracurricular, whatever you want |
| 19:33.13 | macnewbold | we even have adults using it for (gasp!) non-school stuff |
| 19:33.13 | ^Migs^ | the nice thing with integrating gradefix is that our portal has a ton of other things, too. Our progress reports which are imported from Gradequick also have grade weights, so right there you have an indication of how "important" an assignment may be befoer it's done |
| 19:33.25 | harleypig | E.g., my son is involved in school, scouts and church activities. |
| 19:33.26 | macnewbold | yeah, that would be helpful |
| 19:33.29 | harleypig | That answers my question. |
| 19:33.30 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 19:33.35 | macnewbold | harleypig: yeah, or piano lessons, or whatever |
| 19:34.03 | ^Migs^ | already, we have teachers uploading assignments to the portal |
| 19:34.06 | macnewbold | it doesn't deal with appointments and stuff, but it deals with anything you need to get done |
| 19:34.20 | macnewbold | ^Migs^: if your portal has a way to make those available electronically somehow, |
| 19:34.30 | ^Migs^ | they already are available electronically |
| 19:34.30 | macnewbold | we're working on stuff that would let gradefix suck them into a students schedule |
| 19:34.44 | macnewbold | we should probably talk about this... |
| 19:34.44 | ^Migs^ | it's actually state law that all grades and progress reports have to be made available electronically in public schools |
| 19:34.48 | macnewbold | nice |
| 19:35.04 | ^Migs^ | the advantage here is that we're building our own, and getting rid of our old third party system, Edline |
| 19:35.07 | macnewbold | well, if you and your boss(es?) are honestly interested in pursuing this, |
| 19:35.28 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I'll let you know |
| 19:35.33 | macnewbold | we should totally talk - send an email to support@gradefix.com and my partner and I will talk and get back with you, and we can start seeing where this can go |
| 19:35.50 | ^Migs^ | you're developing in PHP and we're in Java, though, but some XML web services could probably take care of that problem |
| 19:36.27 | ^Migs^ | how would this work? |
| 19:36.44 | ^Migs^ | would you just develop an interface so we can receive the data from you, or would you actually be interested in selling the algorithm? |
| 19:36.50 | ^Migs^ | keep in mind I'm not in charge and really don't know what they would do |
| 19:37.06 | macnewbold | all we'd need is an interface of some kind - XML would work, RSS, you name it |
| 19:37.17 | ^Migs^ | hmmm, okay |
| 19:37.20 | macnewbold | then we'd have something similar for you to pull a schedule back into the portal probably |
| 19:37.33 | macnewbold | or they could use our site directly, or you could iframe us or something... any number of ways |
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| 19:39.01 | ^Migs^ | I'd rather shy away from having users access a different site. Just because we already have so many out there, and the philosophy here is that the portal should be a one-stop shop |
| 19:39.07 | ^Migs^ | and iframe.....eeehhhh |
| 19:39.15 | ^Migs^ | hehe |
| 19:40.00 | macnewbold | right, we can figure something out |
| 19:40.06 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 19:40.08 | macnewbold | an API is in the works |
| 19:40.11 | ^Migs^ | oh VERY cool |
| 19:40.21 | macnewbold | stay in touch - I'm off to lunch atm |
| 19:40.23 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 19:41.00 | ^Migs^ | I bet a ton of people would pay for an API |
| 19:41.42 | \me | since we're promoting our ventures. For the LDS here, go here first: |
| 19:41.44 | \me | http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Even_the_Mormons_Have_a_Digg |
| 19:41.47 | \me | then go here: |
| 19:41.53 | \me | http://www.came2pass.com |
| 19:41.55 | \me | :-) |
| 19:42.08 | ^Migs^ | haha, came2pass |
| 19:42.22 | \me | I need to get people to start using it more - it is much more useful when a lot of people use it |
| 19:42.29 | \me | (duh) |
| 19:43.01 | \me | Right now I've got pretty boring stories and links on there |
| 19:44.01 | ^Migs^ | I don't know how successful that will be |
| 19:44.07 | ^Migs^ | but I'll click on your google ads :) |
| 19:44.10 | \me | I think it could catch on |
| 19:44.17 | \me | ^Migs^: thanks |
| 19:44.19 | \me | :-) |
| 19:44.57 | \me | I think if the baby boomer moms who keep sending me LDS chain mail figured out how to use it, it could be huge |
| 19:45.11 | \me | or I can also imagine BYU students using it to report the gossip around campus |
| 19:45.34 | \me | imagine it during a student body presidential campaign |
| 19:46.24 | \me | I can see several different potential audiences - trying to figure out which one will catch on first though |
| 19:47.34 | ^Migs^ | just post flyers for it around campuses |
| 19:47.53 | \me | I'm thinking about trying that |
| 19:48.03 | ^Migs^ | the problem is (1) nobody knows about it, and (2) few people are looking for it atm |
| 19:48.41 | ^Migs^ | you need to become the LDS gossip hub |
| 19:48.42 | \me | yeah, and (3) there's not enough content on there for people to pay attention to it |
| 19:48.43 | ^Migs^ | ya |
| 19:49.04 | \me | I've posted a few adwords ads around too - we'll see if that helps any |
| 19:49.18 | \me | I can't spend much on it until I'm sure it will work |
| 19:50.49 | redbeard1 | who owns came2pass? |
| 19:50.56 | ^Migs^ | \me |
| 19:51.07 | ^Migs^ | ^him |
| 19:51.09 | \me | no, me ;-) |
| 19:51.12 | redbeard1 | right |
| 19:51.22 | \me | \me |
| 19:51.27 | \me | \me's on first |
| 19:51.30 | s4founder | \notme |
| 19:52.59 | ^Migs^ | \nothim |
| 19:57.20 | nick125_lappy | Hmm....I should learn more bash.. |
| 19:58.04 | nick125_lappy | I should write an IRC bot in bash |
| 19:58.08 | s4founder | nick125_lappy: better than bashing more learners. Besides, that's evidently macnewbold's job |
| 19:58.26 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 20:07.04 | levi | Mmmm, sushi. |
| 20:17.38 | maquis | levi: which kind? |
| 20:18.23 | levi | It was a lunch combo with an assortment of nigiri, and I got a side of california rolls because I had a coupon. |
| 20:19.15 | maquis | mmm |
| 20:19.44 | levi | So, salad, miso, a bunch of nigiri, and some california rolls. |
| 20:19.53 | maquis | mmmm |
| 20:20.38 | maquis | sushi sounds good |
| 20:20.40 | maquis | but so does soup |
| 20:21.04 | maquis | and on some level, i'm tempted to get a burger, since i've never tried the burger place in uwajimaya |
| 20:21.08 | maquis | but that seems so... weird |
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| 20:32.39 | elg | jayce~ |
| 20:34.17 | macnewbold | s4founder: what's my job? bashing who and why? |
| 20:34.29 | s4founder | lol |
| 20:34.46 | s4founder | macnewbold: king of the delayed response :) |
| 20:35.15 | macnewbold | pineapple! |
| 20:35.18 | macnewbold | ~yoq |
| 20:35.20 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 20:35.38 | s4founder | macnewbold: nick125_lappy was going to learn more bash, but you use gradefix to bash learners over the head -- to remind them to get their act together |
| 20:40.32 | macnewbold | ah |
| 20:40.33 | macnewbold | I see |
| 20:40.39 | macnewbold | I guess you had to be there... |
| 20:40.44 | macnewbold | ;) |
| 20:42.03 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 20:42.06 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 20:45.25 | ^Migs^ | you know what would be REALLY cool, is if teachers could upload assignments, and the students could have it set so that their schedule is AUTOMATICALLY made for them omgomgomgomgomg |
| 20:45.32 | s4founder | macnewbold: yeah, you did . . . but you weren't . . . and then responded half an hour later . . . and it's my fault???? |
| 20:45.34 | s4founder | :-D |
| 20:46.01 | graphyx | Arggg |
| 20:46.13 | graphyx | I hate it when people do dumb things |
| 20:46.35 | ^Migs^ | macnewbold, is there any chance of a Java API being made for gradefix? |
| 20:46.56 | macnewbold | the API would be language independent - it would likely be some kind of XML format or something |
| 20:47.02 | graphyx | So I notice an a huge upswing in firewalk drops from the VPN server. |
| 20:47.07 | ^Migs^ | also, is there a chance of it becoming a standalone app that gets sold with licensing? |
| 20:47.10 | ^Migs^ | oh, okay |
| 20:47.24 | ^Migs^ | I could turn that into a Java API |
| 20:47.35 | graphyx | Turns out that we have 4 users who logged into the old VPN and then go from there to the new VPN. |
| 20:47.37 | ^Migs^ | I'm just trying to figure out how it would integrate with our monstrous AS/400 |
| 20:47.56 | macnewbold | Gradefix will probably always be a web application service, since it is so much easier to push out upgrades to everyone, and lets us provide much better customer service |
| 20:48.01 | graphyx | and are trying to use the new VPN through the old VPN. |
| 20:48.14 | graphyx | Anyone else see any issues with that one? |
| 20:48.15 | ^Migs^ | yeah, it is |
| 20:48.33 | ^Migs^ | I often chain at least VPN connections that way, graphyx |
| 20:48.40 | ^Migs^ | s/at least/at least 10/ |
| 20:49.08 | macnewbold | why? |
| 20:49.12 | harleypig | Do you realize that in about 40 years, we'll have millions of old ladies running around with tattoos and pierced navels? |
| 20:49.33 | beandog | couldnt you have told me that before lunch? |
| 20:49.33 | macnewbold | harleypig: gee, thanks... I try not to think about it |
| 20:49.59 | dataw0lf | what's wrong with tattoos and piercings? |
| 20:50.09 | macnewbold | old ladies, that's what |
| 20:50.09 | harleypig | We can only hope they'll not be wearing the same midriff shirts. |
| 20:50.29 | elg | harleypig: based on babyboomer behavior I don't think we can hold out that hope |
| 20:50.29 | ^Migs^ | honestly, it would be easier to just have all the tables on our AS/400, rather than connecting to another site. That might be too much to ask, though. |
| 20:50.30 | dataw0lf | old ladies are disgusting anyways. |
| 20:50.48 | s4founder | harleypig: my aunt it already one of those . . . and it's not attractive. Although I'm not in the business of finding my aunts attractive, so perhaps I'm biased. |
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| 20:51.52 | beandog | why cant guys wear midriffs? |
| 20:52.01 | beandog | I hate sexist stereotypes. |
| 20:52.07 | harleypig | I had aunt who was hot when I was 14. She's aged gracefully I think, even though she's married 2 more of my dad's brothers over the years. (after divrocing the previous one) |
| 20:52.33 | Jayce^ | beandog, you want to see harleypig in a midriff? |
| 20:52.42 | harleypig | beandog: Yeah ... I was told that I couldn't wear a tank top to the computer lab. |
| 20:52.44 | beandog | Jayce^: well, I wasnt going to say it publically ... |
| 20:52.48 | harleypig | By a woman wearing a tank top. |
| 20:53.03 | harleypig | "Nothin' bad ever happens to me ..." |
| 20:53.10 | harleypig | Why should I care ... |
| 20:53.25 | harleypig | o/~ |
| 20:53.31 | harleypig | sorry |
| 20:53.43 | harleypig | Hey ... I haven't read bash.org in a while. |
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| 20:53.45 | harleypig | or qdb.us |
| 20:53.47 | beandog | you had an aunt that married two of your dad's brothers? |
| 20:53.50 | beandog | what? |
| 20:54.03 | beandog | so she married her brother-in-law? |
| 20:54.05 | beandog | did I read that right |
| 20:54.09 | harleypig | I had an aunt who married 3 of my dad's brothers. |
| 20:54.12 | harleypig | Yeah. |
| 20:54.17 | dataw0lf | whew, I was hoping so |
| 20:54.18 | Jayce^ | harleypig, the prototypical springer guest |
| 20:54.27 | s4founder | and how did that go over with the previous brother? |
| 20:54.28 | harleypig | First one was killed in the line of duty (AZ highway patrol). |
| 20:54.50 | harleypig | She married the next brother ... they were married for 5 years or so, got divorced and married another one. |
| 20:55.24 | harleypig | Or maybe it was 10 ... anyway, she's been married to this last one since 90ish. |
| 20:55.34 | harleypig | Dunno. I don't really care about my dad's family. |
| 20:55.58 | beandog | http://qdb.us/35897 |
| 20:56.24 | *** topic/#utah by {-} -> The channel for OSS discussion | http://www.plug.org/node/28 | We hold this truth to be self-evident: tabs are evil. |
| 20:56.28 | harleypig | :> Always willing to spread the timewasting around. |
| 20:56.48 | Jayce^ | oh man, beandog you just learned about bash/qdb? mwaahhahaha |
| 20:56.53 | beandog | I knew about bash |
| 20:56.59 | beandog | bash is great |
| 20:57.02 | beandog | not qdb though |
| 20:57.39 | harleypig | qdb is slightly better, and there's a lot of overlap, but I like them both. |
| 21:00.19 | *** topic/#utah by s4founder -> The channel for OSS discussion | http://www.plug.org/node/28 | We hold this truth to be self-evident: tabs are diet soft drinks |
| 21:00.48 | beandog | 1st rule of marketing |
| 21:00.55 | beandog | If youre going to bring back a soft drink from the 80s |
| 21:01.09 | beandog | Be sure to not update the pepto-pink label. |
| 21:03.22 | levi | Did Tab ever leave? |
| 21:04.14 | findlay | hello |
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| 21:06.47 | fugalh | hi |
| 21:06.50 | elg | shut up |
| 21:07.05 | tene | hi |
| 21:07.20 | fugalh | hi tene. will you be my friend? |
| 21:08.02 | tene | Do you have video games? |
| 21:08.04 | s4founder | elg: who is supposed to shut up? |
| 21:08.05 | ^Migs^ | qdb < bash |
| 21:08.15 | ^Migs^ | you may think qdb is less vulgar than bash but you'd be wrong |
| 21:08.16 | s4founder | or was that a blanket command for the enitre room? |
| 21:08.29 | ^Migs^ | so what it comes down to is which has the most quotes, which is clearly bash |
| 21:08.55 | elg | s4founder: just talking to myself |
| 21:09.06 | \me | okay - with this rewriterule: |
| 21:09.13 | \me | RewriteRule ^(all|Media|People|Technology|LastDays|MissionaryWork|OfficialChurchNews|BYUSeminaryInstitute)/?$ ?category=$1 |
| 21:09.20 | \me | why won't this page load?: |
| 21:09.26 | \me | http://www.came2pass.com/BYUSeminaryInstitute |
| 21:09.40 | elg | because you're too old for seminary |
| 21:09.51 | \me | I knew that was it |
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| 21:12.52 | harleypig | ?category= How is your script handling empty category? |
| 21:13.43 | harleypig | Wait ... the rewrite isn't being triggered ... shouldn't it be BYUSeminaryInstitute/? ? |
| 21:14.19 | \me | instead of the $ |
| 21:14.19 | \me | ? |
| 21:14.34 | harleypig | err ... I'll shut up now ... I didn't see the last alternate entry there. |
| 21:14.52 | \me | empty category goes to the front page |
| 21:15.05 | harleypig | So $1 should contain the text, I'm an idiot. But still |
| 21:15.21 | harleypig | The end of the regex is looking for /? |
| 21:15.40 | harleypig | But I added that to the end of the link and it's still not found. |
| 21:15.47 | \me | according to the apache docs that means 0 or 1 / |
| 21:15.49 | \me | at the end |
| 21:16.58 | harleypig | Y'know. I really hate it when I skim over a problem and then make an ass of myself in a publich forum. |
| 21:17.17 | Jayce^ | and yet, it's so common |
| 21:17.37 | harleypig | ~ignore Jayce^ |
| 21:17.48 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, Jayce^!" |
| 21:17.48 | harleypig | \me: what's the error log say? |
| 21:18.38 | harleypig | all dressed up with nowhere to go |
| 21:18.46 | harleypig | walking with a dead man over my shoulder |
| 21:18.54 | harleypig | don't run away it's only me |
| 21:19.14 | \me | harleypig: it's trying to manually pull that as a file, not redirect |
| 21:19.58 | harleypig | What's the text of the error message? |
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| 21:20.29 | \me | File does not exist: /var/www/www.came2pass.com/BYUSeminaryInstitute |
| 21:21.00 | harleypig | Is that from your script? or from apache? |
| 21:21.10 | \me | apache |
| 21:21.28 | \me | I'm loading: LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so |
| 21:21.32 | \me | and RewriteEngine on |
| 21:21.44 | \me | can I do that within a VirtualHost? |
| 21:21.56 | \me | well, the load is outside the virtualhost |
| 21:22.03 | \me | just the rewriteengine on part I'm doing within |
| 21:22.11 | \me | and the rewriterules |
| 21:22.43 | harleypig | It doesn't sound like your rewrite rule is getting triggered. |
| 21:23.14 | dataw0lf | yes, you can put rewrite rules in a virtualhost |
| 21:23.32 | \me | yeah, something weird's going on with mod_rewrite |
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| 21:24.24 | harleypig | You should be able to turn it on for the whole setup, but you might try putting the rewriteengine on in the virtual host declaration to be sure. |
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| 21:25.13 | \me | yeah - it's in the virtual host declaration right now |
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| 21:29.24 | harleypig | Y'know ... even though it was really educational ... monkeys shouldn't ... do that. |
| 21:32.26 | harleypig | stumbleupon waggles at redbeard1 |
| 21:33.01 | nick125_lappy | I've got a headache |
| 21:33.17 | nick125_lappy | my mother managed to mess up two computers within 2 months |
| 21:33.32 | nick125_lappy | first one, CPU fan stopped working one day |
| 21:34.03 | nick125_lappy | now, this one she has now, she power cycled it from the power strip, and, now, nothing works |
| 21:34.20 | redbeard1 | ~whaleslap harleypig |
| 21:34.21 | ibot | ACTION beats harleypig upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:34.37 | nick125_lappy | the power light will not turn on, but, the HD light will turn on, neither the keyboard nor the display will work |
| 21:34.46 | harleypig | man ... no response to my monkey comment ... *sigh* I need to find another forum to tweak |
| 21:34.56 | nick125_lappy | (I tried toggling numlock on and off, nothing, and, the screen just says no signal) |
| 21:35.48 | harleypig | nick125_lappy: reseat everything and try again. |
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| 21:36.01 | harleypig | If that doesn't work I have a hammer you can borrow. |
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| 21:37.26 | \me | hmmm...I wonder what directive and override the RewriteRule from working |
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| 21:41.34 | nick125_lappy | harleypig: already tried reseating everything |
| 21:43.16 | nick125_lappy | I'm betting on either PSU or mobo |
| 21:43.33 | harleypig | Oh. well, that's my two cents. |
| 21:43.59 | nick125_lappy | I don't have another computer to give to her either |
| 21:44.41 | nick125_lappy | I could probably order a mobo, cpu, case, and psu for her (she doesn't need an HD or cd-rom drive).. |
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| 21:47.18 | nick125_lappy | and maybe a stick or two of ram |
| 21:52.03 | elg | man. I can't figure out how to get the quit message to work. any irc protocol gurus? |
| 21:52.08 | elg | QUIT :So long |
| 21:52.31 | elg | just gives 14:49 -!- tuple [n=fugalh@dhcp29.cs.nmsu.edu] has quit [Client Quit] |
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| 21:53.35 | tuple | like |
| 21:53.51 | nick125_lappy | elg: you need to wait 5 minutes before freenode will show your quit message |
| 21:54.02 | elg | oh, be connected that long? |
| 21:54.08 | nick125_lappy | Don't ask why....it just wants you to remain connected for 5 minutes or so |
| 21:54.13 | elg | ok. that's cool the |
| 21:54.13 | elg | n |
| 21:54.32 | nick125_lappy | otherwise, it'll just say "Client Quit" |
| 21:55.39 | elg | thanks |
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| 21:58.51 | calvarez | hey |
| 21:59.15 | calvarez | question: what products allow to run a guest OS from within a host OS in the same computer? |
| 22:02.04 | dataw0lf | vmware |
| 22:02.35 | findlay | there's others I can't think of at the moment |
| 22:02.49 | findlay | qemu? |
| 22:02.56 | findlay | colinux |
| 22:03.15 | findlay | debootstrap (-: |
| 22:03.35 | nick125_lappy | virtualbox |
| 22:03.36 | nick125_lappy | xen |
| 22:03.37 | nick125_lappy | openvz |
| 22:03.43 | beandog | vmware |
| 22:03.47 | beandog | oh |
| 22:03.48 | findlay | mvware |
| 22:03.50 | beandog | dataw0lf beat me. |
| 22:04.01 | harleypig | fantasyos |
| 22:04.32 | beandog | whats that one kernel |
| 22:04.36 | beandog | usermode |
| 22:04.39 | beandog | something |
| 22:04.46 | dataw0lf | uml ? |
| 22:04.47 | nick125_lappy | usermode linux |
| 22:04.49 | beandog | yah |
| 22:05.01 | nick125_lappy | That's kind of oldish |
| 22:05.10 | dataw0lf | Xen > UML |
| 22:05.19 | nick125_lappy | dataw0lf: totally :-) |
| 22:06.02 | calvarez | is vmware FOSS? |
| 22:06.16 | nick125_lappy | calvarez: no |
| 22:06.26 | nick125_lappy | VMWare player and VMWare server are free (as in beer) |
| 22:06.38 | nick125_lappy | QEMU and Virtualbox are FOSS |
| 22:06.48 | calvarez | I wanna know if there is one that is FOSS and that could have Linux, Windows and MacOSX as either host or guest OS |
| 22:06.49 | findlay | colinux is |
| 22:07.30 | calvarez | hmm |
| 22:10.31 | nick125_lappy | Virtualbox used to be a closed-source product, but, they recently open-sourced it |
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| 22:12.28 | fozzmoo | http://imc.sourceforge.net/nagios-console.html |
| 22:12.48 | fozzmoo | Looks interesting. |
| 22:14.30 | calvarez | Hmm, ok. Let's say I have a Linux box, and I want to log in into it and have access to the desktop environment |
| 22:14.37 | calvarez | from a remote machine |
| 22:14.46 | calvarez | running Linux or Cygwin |
| 22:15.00 | calvarez | where can I find info on that? |
| 22:15.06 | levi | vnc, or some variant? |
| 22:15.26 | calvarez | but I'd need to have a VNC server running on the box I wanna log into, right? |
| 22:15.39 | levi | Yes. |
| 22:15.42 | beandog | or X |
| 22:15.53 | beandog | XMDCP++ |
| 22:16.11 | levi | Yeah, if you just want /a/ desktop environment, you can do it just with X. |
| 22:16.27 | levi | I thought you meant an already-running desktop environment. |
| 22:16.47 | levi | Which you'd want to use vnc or nx or something to do. |
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| 22:16.59 | redbeard1 | i need to watch a specifc file for changes, and then run a script against it when it does change... anyone know what kind of tool i could use to watch that file? |
| 22:17.18 | nick125_lappy | you could hack something together with inotify |
| 22:17.41 | dataw0lf | inotify is definitely your best bet |
| 22:17.44 | redbeard1 | what's inotify? |
| 22:18.00 | beandog | checks when files have been modified, or something. |
| 22:18.05 | redbeard1 | sweet |
| 22:18.15 | nick125_lappy | yeah, it's a kernel level thing that will tell when files have been modified |
| 22:18.16 | beandog | http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:18.21 | dataw0lf | http://pyinotify.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:18.23 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 22:18.38 | nick125_lappy | Things like beagle use inotify |
| 22:19.47 | calvarez | any recommendations for VNC software? |
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| 22:20.28 | calvarez | Real? Tight? Ultra? |
| 22:21.43 | sontek_ | SSH + X Forwarding? |
| 22:21.53 | sontek_ | its kinda like vnc |
| 22:22.49 | fozzmoo | I like Tight. |
| 22:22.57 | beandog | "Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine." |
| 22:23.00 | beandog | -- Bill Gates |
| 22:23.06 | beandog | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16934083/site/newsweek/page/2/ |
| 22:23.16 | nick125_lappy | .......................................................... |
| 22:23.18 | fozzmoo | WTF?! |
| 22:23.32 | beandog | he even emphazied month |
| 22:23.56 | calvarez | lol |
| 22:23.58 | nick125_lappy | Now, I may bash macs alot, but, I least know that they are semi-decent secure.. |
| 22:24.19 | nick125_lappy | That was funny...on digg... |
| 22:24.44 | macnewbold | boy, Bill is drinking some funky koolaid |
| 22:25.14 | calvarez | another question: I have an old P1 lappy that I would like to turn into a thin client for both Windows and Linux. What should I put on that lappy? |
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| 22:25.34 | nick125_lappy | "Bill Gates: Vista so secure it could run life support systems" |
| 22:25.37 | levi | Well, I imagine "security guys" do break into Macs every day. They also break into just about everything else every day. |
| 22:25.40 | nick125_lappy | a post or two up: |
| 22:25.46 | macnewbold | calvarez: linux - there is no such thing as a thin windows |
| 22:25.51 | beandog | calvarez: just need a netboot floppy / cd / bootloader |
| 22:25.55 | macnewbold | you can run VNC or wine or vmware on it I bet |
| 22:25.59 | macnewbold | if it can handle that much |
| 22:26.11 | nick125_lappy | "Latest Vista Security Hole - It deletes files itself" |
| 22:26.15 | ScytheBlade1 | calvarez, what was the question? |
| 22:26.22 | \me | when my wife was at the hospital last week the doctors would walk in and out without logging out of the computer that was in the room |
| 22:26.32 | calvarez | ScytheBlade1, sorry, I'm asking several questions that are unrelated to each other |
| 22:26.32 | \me | I was so tempted to have some fun with them |
| 22:26.53 | calvarez | I want to know what I should install in an old laptop to use it as a thin client |
| 22:27.00 | ScytheBlade1 | calvarez, to answer one of them, there is no "thin windows", but one can purchase windows CE which will provide what's needed |
| 22:27.02 | Jayce^ | beandog, just had read that article too, we were all laughing at it here |
| 22:27.06 | calvarez | to connect and work remotely on my Windows and on my linux boxes |
| 22:27.08 | \me | stupid RewriteRule |
| 22:27.32 | \me | it's just completely ignoring it |
| 22:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, you generally have to be a developement business to get a license of that stuff. |
| 22:27.45 | calvarez | nah, forget windows ce |
| 22:27.58 | beandog | Its really sad how defensive he gets. |
| 22:28.37 | calvarez | Could I run vnc on that P1 lappy? |
| 22:28.43 | \me | I like the new Windows Vista compared to XP |
| 22:28.49 | levi | You can run VNC on just about anything. |
| 22:28.50 | calvarez | like, installing puppy linux and running vnc on it |
| 22:28.53 | calvarez | cool |
| 22:28.58 | \me | it's not innovative or anything though |
| 22:28.59 | nick125_lappy | \me: My friend actually bought vista *shutter at the thought* |
| 22:29.13 | nick125_lappy | I actually broke down and started crying as he went though the checkout |
| 22:29.17 | \me | I bought it, but for $40 from a M$ employee |
| 22:29.28 | \me | I wouldn't pay full price |
| 22:29.34 | sontek_ | I got it for free because we are a microsoft partner ;p |
| 22:29.34 | calvarez | I'll get it for free as soon as they put it up on MSDNAA :) |
| 22:29.49 | calvarez | I mean, I could get the business edition already |
| 22:29.55 | \me | I like Windows for how it works with my Xbox 360 |
| 22:30.01 | \me | that's all it's good for though |
| 22:30.02 | calvarez | I'll wait until they put ultimate or home premium up |
| 22:30.11 | calvarez | I want it for the DirectX games |
| 22:30.18 | \me | all my TV gets streamed over my network |
| 22:30.28 | \me | I can't wait for IPTV, too |
| 22:30.30 | calvarez | if it wasn't for that, I would seriously have done the entire switch |
| 22:30.38 | calvarez | well, and my wife |
| 22:30.44 | nick125_lappy | \me: You mean you can't wait to buy a new 360 to watch IPTV? |
| 22:30.44 | calvarez | she doesn't want to switch :/ |
| 22:30.55 | \me | calvarez: Ultimate and Home Premium are out |
| 22:31.06 | \me | nick125_lappy: I think it will work with the existing ones |
| 22:31.08 | sontek_ | they came out on thursday |
| 22:31.13 | calvarez | \me, I'm waiting for them to be available at my local MSDNAA server |
| 22:31.28 | nick125_lappy | (they have already said that IPTV will not be available for current 360s) |
| 22:31.33 | \me | ah - I got it from my local M$ employee friend for $40 |
| 22:31.39 | \me | nick125_lappy: really? That's too bad |
| 22:31.52 | \me | I'll just sell the one I have on Ebay then - I like my Xbox |
| 22:32.02 | \me | better than my Wii even |
| 22:33.43 | \me | I put in: RewriteRule ^/BYUSeminaryInstitute$ http://www.jessestay.com and it still gives a 404! |
| 22:34.00 | \me | stupid RewriteRule |
| 22:34.51 | \me | calvarez: most of the games out right now don't even work with Vista |
| 22:34.58 | \me | I think there's only one DX10 game out |
| 22:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | \me, why wouldn't they work with Vista? |
| 22:35.23 | calvarez | \me, I know, I intend to wait for a few months until drivers, software, etc. problems get sorted out |
| 22:35.27 | sontek_ | cs1.6 doesn't work on vista but didn't bother to check why |
| 22:35.34 | \me | ScytheBlade1: completely new architecture |
| 22:35.38 | ScytheBlade1 | cs1.6 isn't worth playing either :) |
| 22:35.41 | calvarez | yea |
| 22:35.52 | ScytheBlade1 | \me, er? define "architecture" |
| 22:36.05 | calvarez | and they totally redid the driver architecture, so pretty much your hardware is pwned |
| 22:36.18 | \me | DirectX10, new api, drivers |
| 22:36.18 | calvarez | until the manufacturers remake their drivers |
| 22:36.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 22:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | No offense, but you all sound broken |
| 22:36.47 | \me | Es |
| 22:36.48 | \me | Tee |
| 22:36.52 | \me | You |
| 22:36.53 | \me | Vee |
| 22:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | My video drivers work just fine with Vista |
| 22:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | They did back in beta |
| 22:37.31 | \me | ScytheBlade1: what video card? |
| 22:37.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Or I should say, ALL of my drivers work fine |
| 22:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | NV card |
| 22:37.42 | ScytheBlade1 | 6800 iirc |
| 22:37.44 | \me | which one? |
| 22:37.52 | \me | most of the later ones have issues |
| 22:38.03 | \me | my 8800 only just recently got drivers, and they're only beta right now |
| 22:38.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I lied, 7600 |
| 22:38.18 | \me | my mouse didn't work out of the box |
| 22:38.25 | \me | my scanner doesn't and won't ever work |
| 22:38.34 | sontek_ | nvidia dropped support for our office computers video cards Quadro NVS 280's |
| 22:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Scanners are like wifi cards. They all suck. |
| 22:38.41 | \me | my mobo works, but has the wrong drivers |
| 22:39.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll say this much: all of the hardware (in my house) works fine with Vista and is capable of playing games (assuming the box in question was capable with XP) |
| 22:39.29 | \me | itunes is horrible in Vista |
| 22:39.38 | levi | Sweet web design! http://www.rattlebrain.com/~oes/teleprompt/home.html |
| 22:40.16 | \me | I have to say, this launch has been much better than when Win95 launched though |
| 22:40.26 | \me | much more compatibility at launch time |
| 22:41.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You just sound broken to me ;) |
| 22:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | While I admit I don't play CS |
| 22:41.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I did test many, many games in the vista *beta* |
| 22:41.50 | ScytheBlade1 | And they all worked fine |
| 22:42.03 | \me | ScytheBlade1: you must have all the perfect hardware then |
| 22:42.12 | \me | Read the Nvidia forums and you'll see what I mean |
| 22:42.20 | \me | guru3d as well |
| 22:42.20 | ScytheBlade1 | apparently, lol |
| 22:42.42 | \me | ScytheBlade1: are you running 64-bit? |
| 22:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | \me, I was then yes |
| 22:43.07 | \me | wow, you're lucky |
| 22:43.07 | ScytheBlade1 | beta vista 64-bit + beta drivers all around |
| 22:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | They all ran fine |
| 22:43.29 | \me | I've been waiting all this time just to get Aero working finally |
| 22:43.50 | \me | and this is with a "Ready For Vista" video card |
| 22:45.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Linux ksb 2.6.19.2 #5 SMP Mon Jan 29 14:31:15 MST 2007 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 22:45.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It should be noted that I'm blowing XP away this weekend ;) |
| 22:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | (And not replacing it with Vista) |
| 22:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I just asked a friend who is currently running vista retail 64-bit |
| 22:46.39 | \me | is anything other than "RewriteEngine on" needed in order to get RewriteRule working in Apache? |
| 22:46.42 | ScytheBlade1 | No problems at all |
| 22:48.44 | calvarez | hmm, 2 of my computers are Linux-only, 2 are Windows XP only and my laptop is dual boot |
| 22:48.54 | \me | oh, and the LoadModule for mod_rewrite - I've got that in there too |
| 22:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Once I destroy that copy of XP, I'll be MS free at home and on the go |
| 22:49.13 | calvarez | wait, only one is WinXP, the other is an old P1 lappy running Win2k |
| 22:49.30 | calvarez | I wanna turn that into a thin client |
| 22:49.42 | \me | I have a Windows Vista machine, a Linux server, a Macbook, a Windows XP Laptop, and a Linux Laptop |
| 22:50.19 | \me | I'm typing on my Linux laptop right now through a screen session on my Linux server |
| 22:51.15 | calvarez | does someone here use rdesktop a lot? |
| 22:51.27 | \me | my wife actually uses my Linux laptop more than the Windows machine |
| 22:52.17 | macnewbold | if there is anyone in here who wouldn't mind digging something for me, we're trying to push it over the top onto the front page... http://www.digg.com/software/Cool_software_that_reminds_students_about_projects_and_homework_Gradefix - sorry for reposting the link, if that bothers you |
| 22:52.55 | redbeard1 | dugg |
| 22:53.54 | calvarez | dugg here too |
| 22:53.54 | calvarez | interesting project |
| 22:53.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to register for digg, which I don't want to do ever |
| 22:54.27 | calvarez | macnewbold, you just want to take over our schedules!!! |
| 22:54.38 | calvarez | keep tabs on what we're doing, etc |
| 22:54.47 | calvarez | make sure we drink our kool-aid |
| 22:54.51 | calvarez | lol, j/k |
| 22:54.53 | macnewbold | all your schedules are belong to us... |
| 22:54.55 | calvarez | cool idea man |
| 22:55.32 | macnewbold | thanks you guys for digging it - I'm tired of trying to help digg stories, but at this point, it would be really helpful if we could get it to the front page. |
| 22:55.39 | calvarez | kudos for your slave management system, Big Brother will give you a spot in Skulls n' Bones for it |
| 22:55.48 | calvarez | ;) |
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| 23:08.08 | \me | people here are anti-digg |
| 23:08.50 | \me | dugg though |
| 23:09.29 | \me | no one dugg my story :-( |
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| 23:14.14 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 23:24.46 | findlay | how do I find what package owns a specific file on debian? |
| 23:27.15 | elg | http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/02/02/windows-vista-a-cautionary-tale/ |
| 23:27.37 | dataw0lf | findlay: dpkg -S <filename> |
| 23:45.59 | harleypig | Hey! Pan's Labyrinth is back at Provo Towne Center. |
| 23:46.42 | levi | What's that? |
| 23:51.58 | harleypig | levi: It's an r rated harry potter where the protaganist is a little girl and the magic world is in another dimension |
| 23:52.15 | harleypig | It's r rated for the violence. |
| 23:52.28 | harleypig | the fairy people aren't all good or sweet. |
| 23:53.09 | harleypig | Of course, I *have* mangled that description pretty good ... |
| 23:53.11 | levi | So it's a movie? |
| 23:53.14 | harleypig | Yeah. :] |
| 23:53.52 | harleypig | http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pans_labyrinth/about.php |
| 23:54.11 | beandog | man I wanna see that |
| 23:57.58 | levi | Is it in English? |
| 23:58.22 | harleypig | I'm not sure. |
| 23:58.40 | harleypig | The trailers seem to be in english, but I've heard people say it was subtitled. |