| 00:16.30 | dilvie | hubble is kaput? |
| 00:18.56 | SpecialK | yeah, my gf put in a Hubble proposal last week |
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| 00:30.50 | bonez41 | I have a wireless xp pro laptop...a wired xp pro desktop..and a wired linux box.....plus my main linux box...at home...the main box has port 22 forwarded...how would I forward other available ports to the other three machines? |
| 00:31.11 | bonez41 | I want to be able to send messages to, or to connect to and monitor activity on the other three machines.....from work.... |
| 00:31.20 | SpecialK | Of the 750 proposals entered, 500 were for the main camera that died. The 500 proposals can resubmit on the two smaller instruments though. |
| 00:32.48 | bonez41 | a follow up question, how does one determine which ports are available for these other machines? |
| 00:33.31 | bonez41 | oops....nick change |
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| 00:35.52 | efhutton | herlo-lap welcome |
| 00:37.59 | efhutton | dang...... |
| 00:38.11 | efhutton | everyone must be commuting home now |
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| 00:41.43 | efhutton | hi nick |
| 00:42.04 | nick125_lappy | hiya |
| 00:43.00 | efhutton | nick125_lappy, this question is repeated .. since you weren't here >>>> I have a wireless xp pro laptop...a wired xp pro desktop..and a wired linux box.....plus my main linux box...at home...the main box has port 22 forwarded...how would I forward other available ports to the other three machines? |
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| 00:50.58 | Supaplex | the big blue room sure gets dark and cold quick. |
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| 01:00.40 | Sargun | eh |
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| 01:40.17 | eazy333 | hi |
| 01:40.27 | tene | hi |
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| 02:23.16 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for OSS discussion | http://xkcd.com/c166.html | elg pwned me |
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| 02:32.43 | rsimpkins | How popular are large scale port scans these days? |
| 02:33.08 | rsimpkins | I've had a simple trap up for several hours on an open server, and not one byte ;-) |
| 02:34.13 | tene | rsimpkins: I'll portscan it if you give me the IP. |
| 02:34.31 | rsimpkins | tene: 206.251.255.226 |
| 02:36.47 | graphyx | rsimpkins: What is your metric for a port scan? |
| 02:37.13 | rsimpkins | graphyx: I'm looking for a connection to a port, so a TCP scan I guess. |
| 02:37.43 | graphyx | any port? |
| 02:37.51 | rsimpkins | A specific one. |
| 02:37.57 | rsimpkins | For now. |
| 02:37.59 | graphyx | ahh. |
| 02:38.04 | graphyx | that is the problem |
| 02:38.15 | rsimpkins | oh? |
| 02:38.23 | rsimpkins | I'm not a pro at this, what am I doing wrong? |
| 02:38.32 | tene | did it notice the scan I just did? |
| 02:38.45 | graphyx | sniff outside of the firewall and you will find lots of specific ports targetted. |
| 02:38.54 | rsimpkins | tene: Tue Jan 30 19:36:48 2007 - 24.2.71.129 --- looks liek it |
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| 02:39.22 | tene | you have something weird running on port 23? |
| 02:39.28 | rsimpkins | tene: bingo |
| 02:39.56 | tene | What is it? |
| 02:40.09 | rsimpkins | A portsentry clone of my own hacking. |
| 02:40.13 | graphyx | try ports 139 445 1443 and 22 at times |
| 02:40.18 | graphyx | much more common |
| 02:40.20 | tene | Okay. |
| 02:40.24 | rsimpkins | Yeah, this was just testing. |
| 02:40.50 | rsimpkins | But not a single host for HOURS has hit port 23 on my server until tene. |
| 02:41.12 | graphyx | telnet isn't a common windows port |
| 02:41.21 | tene | I really don't think that wide-scale scanning happens much for telnet. |
| 02:41.27 | tene | I know that it happens with ssh |
| 02:41.30 | rsimpkins | Let me open it on 139. |
| 02:42.05 | tene | I've cleaned out boxes that had automated ssh scan/bruteforce stuff on them. |
| 02:42.49 | rsimpkins | k, 139 is open now. I wonder what I'll get. |
| 02:43.14 | rsimpkins | It's kinda like fishing, I've decided, but for geeks. |
| 02:43.35 | rsimpkins | I've got some good ssh protection going on. |
| 02:44.16 | graphyx | You are doing what is called a honeypot |
| 02:44.34 | graphyx | basically seeing what people will do |
| 02:44.43 | rsimpkins | graphyx: Are you familiar with portsentry or sentry tools? |
| 02:44.54 | graphyx | not really |
| 02:45.01 | rsimpkins | graphyx: I basically wanted a really simple dumbed down version of portsentry. |
| 02:45.17 | graphyx | we just firewall what we don't want open and IDS/IPS the rest. |
| 02:45.41 | rsimpkins | in essence, port sentry listens on several common portscan ports and drops IPs that connect to those ports in a specific pattern/time frame to an iptables DROP list. |
| 02:46.01 | graphyx | doesn't inetd allow for use of hosts.allow and hosts.deny? |
| 02:46.07 | rsimpkins | i firewall too, but the idea is to give you some proactive defense against the low hanging fruit. |
| 02:47.42 | rsimpkins | I love the idea of an IPS, but they are still kind of new. |
| 02:48.28 | graphyx | snort has been around a rather long time now |
| 02:49.31 | rsimpkins | Maybe some people run it as an IPS, I dunno. |
| 02:49.35 | rsimpkins | I like the idea any how. |
| 02:50.42 | rsimpkins | Can anyone hit port 139 at 206.251.255.226? I'm wondering if my local firewall is preventing me - or the server. |
| 02:51.26 | rsimpkins | Looks like I got one already: Tue Jan 30 19:50:28 2007 - 206.251.183.130 |
| 02:51.41 | graphyx | there you d. |
| 02:51.42 | graphyx | go |
| 02:52.16 | rsimpkins | Could just be a windows box in the same dc though. |
| 02:53.08 | graphyx | dc? |
| 02:53.18 | rsimpkins | data center |
| 02:53.48 | graphyx | traceroute it. |
| 02:54.19 | rsimpkins | 11 hops, maybe not then. :) |
| 02:55.20 | graphyx | see? |
| 02:55.33 | graphyx | just got to look for the right things. |
| 02:55.49 | rsimpkins | Yep, you were right. |
| 02:56.39 | rsimpkins | Maybe I should move ssh to a different port and put this thing in its place. That'd lock out a pretty big chunk of the scan bots. |
| 02:56.52 | graphyx | yeah |
| 02:56.58 | graphyx | that is a common trick |
| 02:57.07 | graphyx | wont stop a person though |
| 02:57.31 | rsimpkins | It would probably end up annoying me more than the typical cracker. |
| 02:57.49 | rsimpkins | Like most web servers, it is crappy PHP code that is my bane, not really SSH. |
| 02:57.51 | graphyx | not if you use the same port all the time |
| 02:58.09 | graphyx | rsimpkins: I will have to agree with that one. |
| 02:58.54 | rsimpkins | I try to stick http auth in front of anything I might suspect as being crappy, but you can't lock it all down if you run any public sites. |
| 02:59.03 | sjansen | Whoa! They're making a movie of Bridge to Terebithia! |
| 02:59.06 | graphyx | yep |
| 02:59.13 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I've seen the trailer. |
| 02:59.23 | rsimpkins | sjansen: I think they could have gotten better kid actors, IMHO. |
| 02:59.43 | rsimpkins | some of the effects look amazing, and some of them look a bit cheesy. |
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| 03:37.56 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 03:38.43 | elg | ok, so I have a client needs some maintenance work done on their website |
| 03:39.02 | elg | gives me FTP access. I just used wget to mirror it |
| 03:39.20 | elg | but I'm still not sure how I'll efficiently and easily up the changes when I'm comfortable with them |
| 03:39.43 | elg | iow, how do I take a mirror of an ftp site and up only the changes semiautomatically |
| 03:40.43 | elg | site isn't live, but I don't want to muck things up anyhow |
| 03:40.48 | sjansen | ~lart elg |
| 03:42.29 | elg | oh, and there's a limit of two connections at a time from one IP, so things like mounting it as a filesystem seem to have a bit of trouble |
| 03:46.15 | elg | (switching gears) |
| 03:46.19 | elg | I could really use hypercard about now |
| 03:51.39 | Supaplex | no ssh? no rsync love? |
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| 04:24.50 | levi_home | elg: What would you do with hypercard? |
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| 04:26.25 | elg | i need to organize notes on papers I read |
| 04:26.37 | elg | iirc hypercard has a sort of easy to use template thingy |
| 04:26.50 | elg | but maybe I'll just do it by hand in a notebook. easier to peruse |
| 04:26.50 | elg | http://www.phdcomics.com/images/laboratory_PA.jpg |
| 04:28.56 | justingiboney | so I was trying to run the autoconfig in kdevelop and it said it couldn't find the autoconfig file. Where can I download that? |
| 04:33.22 | levi_home | I miss hypercard. |
| 04:34.18 | elg | what was so magic about it that nobody can seem to clone it (libre) |
| 04:34.21 | elg | ? |
| 04:34.30 | elg | there's a couple of projects that got maybe halfway |
| 04:43.46 | levi_home | I'm not sure. I don't know if anyone would go for it today. |
| 04:45.13 | levi_home | Which one? |
| 04:45.16 | elg | BibDesk |
| 04:45.46 | levi_home | You could probably whip something up pretty easily in Rails, too. |
| 04:46.10 | elg | yeah, but that would be yak shaving :) |
| 04:46.27 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 04:46.31 | levi_home | Rails is kind of like the new hypercard, but without the drag'n'drop gui layout. |
| 04:46.46 | elg | ~rlart |
| 04:47.04 | elg | nice choise |
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| 04:48.48 | levi_home | Squeak could be used as a Hypercard replacement, too, for some things. |
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| 04:57.03 | levi_home | elg: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/supercard.html |
| 04:57.51 | levi_home | I guess it's only a demo, and the full version isn't cheap. |
| 05:35.35 | efhutton | if I have the internal IP of a Win xp machine....is there any way for me to message that machine...with a popup message? |
| 05:36.16 | tene | net send |
| 05:36.24 | tene | if they're running the appropriate service |
| 05:36.36 | efhutton | tene, what 'service' must xp be running? |
| 05:36.45 | tene | no idea |
| 05:36.55 | tene | message-something |
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| 05:42.34 | jbellis | what does "restricted" mean in ubuntu sources.list? |
| 05:47.41 | Supaplex | sounds like an #ubuntu question. |
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| 07:10.38 | Supaplex | poof goes another day. *sniff* we'll miss you. |
| 07:10.52 | tene | </day> |
| 07:10.54 | tene | <day> |
| 07:11.01 | Supaplex | yup |
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| 13:00.02 | graphyx | Its quiet, too quiet. |
| 13:00.09 | graphyx | oops |
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| 14:24.06 | goozbach | I must say that STR is some dang good trolling |
| 14:24.12 | goozbach | gotta love it |
| 14:29.23 | goozbach | good morning! |
| 14:33.42 | emcnabb | good morning |
| 14:35.29 | Supaplex | indeed |
| 14:35.43 | Supaplex | *yawn+stretch+etc* |
| 14:36.13 | redbeard1 | goozbach: STR? |
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| 14:50.21 | ^Migs^ | http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/917guy/math-check.jpg |
| 14:54.42 | jsmith | ^Migs^: That's awesome! |
| 14:54.47 | jsmith | I'm saving that one |
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| 15:00.15 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I loved it |
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| 15:02.14 | sjansen | ~std goozbach |
| 15:06.01 | sjansen | ~wtf str |
| 15:06.10 | sjansen | ~wft str |
| 15:06.16 | sjansen | ~wtf wft |
| 15:06.25 | sjansen | ~wtf wtf |
| 15:06.32 | sjansen | ~language ibot |
| 15:06.34 | ibot | ACTION grabs ibot by the ear and washes ibot's mouth out with soap |
| 15:06.51 | sjansen | ~punish ibot |
| 15:06.53 | ibot | ACTION forces ibot to install and use Windows |
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| 15:08.08 | sjansen | ~pounce atoponce |
| 15:08.10 | ibot | ACTION jumps on atoponce and bounces around Tigger style |
| 15:08.15 | sjansen | ~silence sjansen |
| 15:08.16 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in sjansen's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 15:08.34 | sjansen | ~amuse sjansen |
| 15:09.21 | sjansen | ~fill sjansen's empty existence with friendship, love, high speed Internet access and free cutting edge computer hardware |
| 15:10.05 | sjansen | ~kick sjansen |
| 15:10.07 | ibot | bugger off, sjansen! |
| 15:10.35 | ^Migs^ | ~whaleslap sjansen |
| 15:10.37 | ibot | ACTION beats sjansen upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 15:20.04 | dilvie | please take a peek at the new dilvie.com and tell me what you think of the redesign effort. |
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| 15:51.55 | ^Migs^ | well, 'effort' is about right |
| 15:51.59 | ^Migs^ | j/k, I like it |
| 15:52.14 | ^Migs^ | fix the Contact Dilvie form so the text boxes line up |
| 15:52.34 | ^Migs^ | the site sure is vertical |
| 15:53.44 | dilvie | haha |
| 15:58.13 | maquis | dilvie: it's pretty cool |
| 15:59.20 | dilvie | thanks for the feedback. =) |
| 16:07.59 | elg | dilvie: the song is 403 |
| 16:10.16 | graphyx | encryptz: you doing dvorak? |
| 16:13.07 | graphyx | elg: todays xkcd is up your alley |
| 16:14.42 | graphyx | you married yet? |
| 16:15.11 | Sargun | hi |
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| 16:15.15 | Sargun | no |
| 16:15.20 | maquis | graphyx: not yet... april |
| 16:15.26 | graphyx | ok |
| 16:15.41 | graphyx | haven't chased him off then? that's good. |
| 16:16.42 | maquis | :) |
| 16:24.15 | dilvie | Thanks for the heads up, elg. |
| 16:24.19 | dilvie | fixed. |
| 16:25.25 | Supaplex | elo dilvie |
| 16:25.47 | dilvie | 'ey supaplex |
| 16:25.54 | sjansen | dilvie: thanks, I've been needing new wallpaper |
| 16:25.56 | Supaplex | you're up earlier then usual :) |
| 16:26.01 | dilvie | how's it going? |
| 16:26.14 | dilvie | supaplex: went to bed early last night. |
| 16:26.43 | dilvie | supaplex: have you checked out the new dilvie.com? |
| 16:26.49 | Supaplex | all things considers, pretty good. I updated http://www.goodbye-windows.com/. it looks better then the 1994 style webpage. |
| 16:27.34 | Supaplex | mmm not in a while. |
| 16:27.54 | dilvie | hey |
| 16:28.01 | dilvie | that new deb installer process looks pretty slick |
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| 16:30.11 | Supaplex | yea. it's hard to get a dark background that works well with a site, but I think you have a good handle on things. |
| 16:34.33 | dilvie | w00t |
| 16:34.36 | dilvie | thanks. |
| 16:36.13 | Supaplex | what plans do you have today? |
| 16:38.38 | dilvie | not many |
| 16:38.39 | dilvie | why? |
| 16:38.51 | dilvie | I was going to work on the Best of 2006 compilation release. |
| 16:39.51 | Supaplex | I have an interview downtown at 2pm. I was thinking of dropping in before/after that. |
| 16:42.34 | maquis | cal 2 2007 |
| 16:42.36 | maquis | er |
| 16:44.19 | Jayce^ | talk about being tempted to paste that in.. |
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| 16:45.15 | ^Migs^ | is it easy to add RAM to a laptop? |
| 16:45.27 | Supaplex | varies based on the make/model |
| 16:46.09 | dilvie | supaplex: sure.. maybe we can go catch lunch or something? |
| 16:46.32 | Supaplex | yea. I'm thinking pizza already, and you know where. :-) |
| 16:46.40 | dilvie | w00t |
| 16:46.41 | dilvie | awesome. |
| 16:46.44 | JoshH | better be free wheeler |
| 16:46.45 | dilvie | I could go for that. |
| 16:47.12 | Supaplex | yea, and JoshH will cover me. >:) |
| 16:47.27 | dilvie | http://www.buy.com/prod/Connect3D_2GB_Secure_Digital_Card/q/loc/101/204044460.html |
| 16:47.32 | dilvie | !! |
| 16:49.14 | Supaplex | free is good :D |
| 16:49.30 | dilvie | free is very good. |
| 16:49.53 | dilvie | I wonder if there's a quantity limit |
| 16:52.11 | Supaplex | with rebates, yea, it's generally 1 |
| 16:53.01 | Supaplex | but, the buy.com visa card, and google check out discount might earn you $$ by the time it's all done. |
| 16:58.07 | ^Migs^ | the rebate says 1 max |
| 17:02.06 | ^Migs^ | $30 cash back with buy.com visa card. |
| 17:02.10 | ^Migs^ | so you'll get a SD card + $30 |
| 17:03.06 | ^Migs^ | haha, promo codes, too |
| 17:06.44 | Supaplex | +10 discount for google checkout |
| 17:06.55 | Supaplex | er +$10 |
| 17:08.02 | ^Migs^ | so you get a SD card for -$40 |
| 17:08.05 | ^Migs^ | wowomg |
| 17:08.43 | Supaplex | the shipping wasn't free, I checked out too fast. see if there's a different drop down option :) |
| 17:09.18 | Jayce^ | it qualifies, but probably defaults to 2nd day or something |
| 17:09.22 | Supaplex | I'm taking this compusa 1gb card back hehe. never opened it from last week :P |
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| 17:11.17 | dilvie | looks like the next Fulcrum demo will use music by me. |
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| 17:12.56 | levi | What's Fulcrum? |
| 17:13.06 | Supaplex | I may as well hit freecycle, but if anyone has smallish sd or usb memory sticks, I'd like a few for some FOSS projects I'm working on/with. |
| 17:15.29 | sjansen | http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/mod/journal/journal.asp?jn=345337&reply_id=2887788 |
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| 17:19.02 | nick125-- | Supaplex: give me some too |
| 17:19.48 | levi | I just had breakfast. |
| 17:19.52 | levi | Grits! |
| 17:19.58 | sjansen | while true; do pat_belly.sh; done |
| 17:20.04 | redbeard1 | mmm, grits! |
| 17:20.23 | levi | I don't know why some people don't like grits. |
| 17:21.11 | redbeard1 | ~grits sjansen |
| 17:21.15 | jsmith | levi: Good for you! |
| 17:21.15 | redbeard1 | i like grits |
| 17:21.15 | jsmith | levi: Bacon? Butter? Cheese? |
| 17:21.16 | sjansen | ibot doesn't know ~grits?! |
| 17:21.28 | dataw0lf | ew grits |
| 17:21.29 | levi | jsmith: Just a bit of creamer and some salt. |
| 17:21.47 | jsmith | creamer? |
| 17:21.49 | jsmith | Interesting... |
| 17:21.58 | levi | I sometimes do brown sugar and butter, but mostly I like butter and salt. I just don't have butter available at work right now. |
| 17:22.41 | redbeard1 | cheesy bacony grits, mmm! |
| 17:22.41 | levi | The creamer makes the texture almost like I had butter, but unfortunately doesn't impart the wonderful butter flavor. |
| 17:22.45 | sjansen | ~grits jsmith |
| 17:22.46 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on jsmith, readies the funnel, then pours hot grits down jsmith's pants |
| 17:23.10 | redbeard1 | ~sjansen++ |
| 17:23.14 | levi | I'd love cheesy bacon grits, too, but I tend to bring breakfast stuff to work in bulk and make do with what I've got here. |
| 17:23.20 | redbeard1 | that's for teaching ibot about grits |
| 17:24.42 | elg | levi: maybe you could concoct some mix of whipping cream and butter |
| 17:24.57 | elg | or maybe creamer and butter-flavored crisco |
| 17:25.03 | sjansen | ~butter elg |
| 17:25.22 | levi | Nah, the creamer + salt makes grits that are perfectly acceptable to me. |
| 17:25.44 | Supaplex | I'm a cracked wheat fan myself. |
| 17:25.48 | levi | And whenever we have a meeting catered by Big City Soup, we end up with a gigantic bowl of butter chips that stays in the fridge for weeks. |
| 17:26.05 | levi | Maybe next month... |
| 17:26.10 | redbeard1 | mmm, butter chips |
| 17:26.45 | sjansen | ~butter levi |
| 17:26.47 | graphyx | Supaplex: We always knew that you were cracked. |
| 17:26.54 | Supaplex | >:) |
| 17:27.11 | sjansen | bah, ibot doesn't like unicode :-( |
| 17:27.23 | sjansen | ~butter redbeard1 |
| 17:27.25 | ibot | ACTION straps redbeard1 to a giant slice of butter then tosses redbeard1 in a pan and practices sauteing |
| 17:29.10 | sjansen | ~quote scox |
| 17:29.18 | Supaplex | sauted redbeard1. how unappitizing. |
| 17:30.00 | levi | maquis: Eat grits! |
| 17:30.07 | Supaplex | adds* |
| 17:30.13 | elg | i had a taste of grits the other day for the first time |
| 17:30.17 | elg | it tasted like thick water |
| 17:30.23 | elg | not bad, but kind of boring |
| 17:30.34 | jsmith | elg: Then you didn't have good grits. |
| 17:30.40 | Supaplex | grits vs corn starch? |
| 17:31.00 | elg | jsmith: quite possibly. who makes good grits in new mexico anyhow? |
| 17:31.02 | jsmith | s/appeciate/appreciate/ |
| 17:31.13 | jsmith | elg: You make them yourself... |
| 17:31.16 | sjansen | ~learn jsmith |
| 17:31.24 | elg | i do like hominy, but I have no desire to grind it to a pulp |
| 17:31.31 | elg | ~posole |
| 17:31.33 | jsmith | elg: Buy you some grits, cook them up like you would cracked wheat, but put butter/cheese/bacon on them |
| 17:31.54 | jsmith | Makes a great cheap filling breakfast |
| 17:32.23 | elg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozole |
| 17:33.20 | elg | some people on my mission would serve cooked hominy sans pork, stew, etc. (probably just boiled maybe with some salt) |
| 17:33.29 | elg | and called it posole. more boring than the regular stuff but good |
| 17:33.38 | elg | if I were to eat hominy for breakfast, that's how I'd do it |
| 17:34.50 | elg | the true abomination is oatmeal |
| 17:35.22 | elg | the local lug is actually having a meeting tonight |
| 17:35.29 | maquis | hmmm... posole |
| 17:35.47 | maquis | you know what i want... |
| 17:35.49 | maquis | sopita |
| 17:35.51 | levi | I like oatmeal too, but not as much as grits. |
| 17:36.05 | maquis | it ain't breakfast, but it sounds *so* good right now |
| 17:36.28 | elg | i dislike oatmeal almost as much as split pea soup |
| 17:37.38 | redbeard1 | ~oatmeal elg |
| 17:38.08 | ^Migs^ | wow, I just found a ton of my OLD songs |
| 17:38.31 | elg | must be getting old |
| 17:38.33 | ^Migs^ | http://www.justinreeve.com/music/Diddies/old/marchofthepixies.mp3 |
| 17:38.49 | ^Migs^ | haha. That was, like, the 3rd song I ever wrote |
| 17:42.38 | ^Migs^ | crap, that's not too bad |
| 17:42.38 | ^Migs^ | most of these I'm not even going to bother sharing, cuz they suck so much |
| 17:42.39 | Jayce^ | mmm, oatmeal.. |
| 17:42.48 | ^Migs^ | not that anyone cares one way or the other, of course |
| 17:43.07 | elg | luke cares |
| 17:43.12 | ^Migs^ | thanks luke |
| 17:47.10 | encryptz | graphyx: yeah |
| 17:47.15 | encryptz | (delayed answer) |
| 17:57.57 | graphyx | encryptz: you doing ok with it now? |
| 17:58.27 | graphyx | I am getting better, but the easiest keys for qwerty are hard to relearn. |
| 18:06.06 | redbeard1 | http://www.zazzle.com/product/235567697418960218 |
| 18:23.03 | levi | http://www.gellibaff.co.uk/ |
| 18:24.54 | levi | http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=1713 |
| 18:26.27 | goozbach | ~lart red-tape and backbiting |
| 18:28.32 | goozbach | ~spell breuaracricy |
| 18:28.50 | goozbach | bureaucracy gotta love it |
| 18:36.50 | *** join/#utah seww (n=askme@67-41-180-222.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 18:37.40 | seww | sooo |
| 18:37.44 | seww | whats going on in utah? |
| 18:38.22 | ^Migs^ | what makes you think people here know what's going on in utah? |
| 18:38.47 | ^Migs^ | very few people in here actually live in Utah |
| 18:39.10 | seww | really? |
| 18:39.12 | seww | bummer |
| 18:39.15 | *** join/#utah mrpull_ (n=mrpull@205.158.184.126.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 18:39.16 | redbeard1 | i live in shanghai. it's raining here. |
| 18:39.20 | seww | that sucks |
| 18:39.58 | redbeard1 | but don't worry, i saved. |
| 18:39.58 | seww | im in utah, looking for other utah-geeks |
| 18:39.58 | ^Migs^ | try #michigan |
| 18:39.58 | ^Migs^ | I think there's lots of Utards in there |
| 18:39.58 | redbeard1 | seww: where in utah are you at? |
| 18:40.00 | seww | redbeard1, logan |
| 18:40.11 | ^Migs^ | I actually live in Utah, however |
| 18:40.11 | redbeard1 | hey, i have a brother up in logan |
| 18:40.11 | seww | hehe |
| 18:40.17 | seww | redbeard1 really? |
| 18:40.21 | ^Migs^ | "OMG U LIVE IN ___ DO U KNOW ___?" |
| 18:40.26 | seww | ^Migs^, where at? |
| 18:40.28 | ^Migs^ | Roy |
| 18:40.48 | redbeard1 | seww: yeah, he just gradumacated from USU |
| 18:41.00 | seww | redbeard1, cool... im going to usu right now |
| 18:41.04 | seww | aah roy |
| 18:41.21 | ^Migs^ | yes |
| 18:41.23 | ^Migs^ | roy > rest of Utah |
| 18:41.30 | seww | hehe |
| 18:41.44 | seww | so where does all the utan-geeks hangout? |
| 18:42.01 | redbeard1 | #utah, of course |
| 18:42.16 | ^Migs^ | except most of us are honorary Utah geeks, not actually living in Utah |
| 18:42.16 | seww | aaah |
| 18:42.25 | seww | oh i see |
| 18:42.31 | ^Migs^ | there's also the LUG meetings |
| 18:42.32 | redbeard1 | ~grits harleypig |
| 18:43.28 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on harleypig, readies the funnel, then pours hot grits down harleypig's pants |
| 18:43.31 | ^Migs^ | if you're really desperate for geek companionship |
| 18:43.31 | seww | im originally from sweden, and have noticed that noone around here plays pc games and hangs out on irc... |
| 18:43.31 | harleypig | I want butter 'n' cream with that please. |
| 18:43.32 | seww | not like we did back home |
| 18:43.32 | ^Migs^ | right. No one here does. |
| 18:43.32 | harleypig | How can you play a game and hang out on irc at the same time? |
| 18:43.32 | ^Migs^ | there are IRC games |
| 18:43.32 | seww | play windowed mode |
| 18:43.32 | redbeard1 | harleypig: dual monitors |
| 18:43.33 | ^Migs^ | idleRPG |
| 18:43.47 | seww | no but seriously... none of my friends does... except we're all jocks... |
| 18:43.54 | harleypig | seww: No way I'd want to play CS:S windowed. |
| 18:44.04 | ^Migs^ | jocks don't play PC games? |
| 18:44.07 | seww | harleypig, well if you play cs you're a loser |
| 18:44.08 | redbeard1 | CS:S in irc |
| 18:44.13 | harleypig | :D |
| 18:44.16 | seww | nah but they play faggy xbox and such |
| 18:44.18 | ^Migs^ | maybe back in the 80s they didn't, but that's not true nowadays |
| 18:44.21 | ^Migs^ | oh |
| 18:44.24 | ^Migs^ | CONSOLE gamers, of course |
| 18:44.27 | seww | yeah |
| 18:44.33 | seww | i cant stand consoles... |
| 18:44.40 | seww | im a mouse+keyboard guy |
| 18:46.33 | seww | ok did i kill the convo now? |
| 18:47.24 | macnewbold | probably not, seww - nobody has mentioned hitler or nazis yet |
| 18:47.54 | seww | macnewbold, hopefully thats how it is... but when no one replies on IRC in 2 mins, something's gone bad |
| 18:48.22 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 18:48.28 | macnewbold | perhaps they all had to get back to work nearly simultaneously, who knows |
| 18:48.33 | ^Migs^ | no, that's not true at all |
| 18:48.34 | seww | yeah true |
| 18:48.37 | seww | no? |
| 18:48.39 | ^Migs^ | many of us are busy |
| 18:48.46 | ^Migs^ | your statement wasn't true, seww |
| 18:48.51 | ^Migs^ | not macnewbold |
| 18:48.55 | seww | ^Migs^, really? |
| 18:49.23 | ^Migs^ | yes, really. You're clearly a very impatient selfish person, who thinks everyone on IRC exists to serve you and cater to your every whim |
| 18:49.37 | seww | yeah i guess....... |
| 18:49.48 | ^Migs^ | also highly suggestible |
| 18:49.58 | seww | im a selfish prick hu |
| 18:50.05 | ^Migs^ | yes |
| 18:50.12 | ^Migs^ | now what are you going to do to change that? |
| 18:50.45 | seww | hmm i dont know... |
| 18:50.45 | seww | maybe log on to #utah with my laptop too so there's more of me |
| 18:51.00 | seww | and i cant talk to myself instead of bothering other ppl |
| 18:52.06 | seww | i mean can |
| 18:54.51 | seww | hey redbeard1 |
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| 19:04.51 | ^Migs^ | http://www.unfaithfulpeople.com/ |
| 19:07.30 | goozbach | yay! new 20" dell LCD monitors |
| 19:07.42 | goozbach | two of them |
| 19:07.45 | goozbach | buhahah! |
| 19:07.51 | seww | coffee and cookies! my place |
| 19:08.00 | goozbach | and sjansen each can do 1600x1200 |
| 19:08.33 | sjansen | 1920x1200 |
| 19:08.52 | sjansen | oh, wait, missed a word there |
| 19:08.56 | sjansen | ~lart goozbach |
| 19:08.56 | goozbach | seww: checka fslc.usu.edu |
| 19:09.06 | goozbach | there's a bunch of loganites who lurk there |
| 19:09.27 | seww | oh believe me, i've been searching |
| 19:09.38 | goozbach | irc fslc.usu.edu |
| 19:10.30 | seww | aah... duh |
| 19:10.33 | seww | thought you meant www |
| 19:12.22 | sjansen | Oh, man, I want a Tardis USB hub. |
| 19:12.23 | seww | hey goozbach, do you know what channel? doesn't say on their website |
| 19:12.26 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@dhcp29.cs.nmsu.edu) |
| 19:12.28 | sjansen | #fslc ? |
| 19:12.39 | seww | nah |
| 19:12.39 | sjansen | #evil ? |
| 19:12.41 | seww | im stupid |
| 19:12.51 | sjansen | #goozbach ? |
| 19:12.53 | seww | ignore me |
| 19:13.15 | goozbach | #linux |
| 19:13.19 | goozbach | or #soy |
| 19:13.22 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.31 | goozbach | #linux to get started |
| 19:13.36 | seww | yeah i saw that |
| 19:13.49 | goozbach | #soy is a bit more "rough and tumble" |
| 19:13.59 | goozbach | so if you can take it, venture forth |
| 19:14.17 | seww | hehe |
| 19:19.11 | goozbach | so anywho, time to reboot and move my machine to my new monitors |
| 19:19.28 | elg | goozbach: have you sanity tested the monitors yet? |
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| 19:25.13 | sargun | ~ping |
| 19:25.18 | ibot | pong |
| 19:25.27 | elg | ~pong |
| 19:25.29 | ibot | PING! |
| 19:25.34 | sjansen | ~bong |
| 19:25.35 | ibot | i heard bong is a device for the consumption of drugs. Normally cannabis. The cannabis is burned on a wire mesh, and the resulting smoke is bubbled through water, to cool it and remove many harsh elements, before it is inhaled by the drug 'user.' |
| 19:26.16 | sjansen | Somebody payed too much attention to they're English teacher. |
| 19:26.22 | sjansen | s/they're/their/ |
| 19:26.24 | emcnabb | sjansen: why are you promoting drug use on #utah? |
| 19:26.46 | elg | emcnabb: don't you know #utah _is_ a drug? |
| 19:26.53 | emcnabb | ~crack elg |
| 19:26.55 | ibot | ACTION cracks elg 's rock in half and then proceeds to shatter the halves into tiny pieces |
| 19:27.05 | elg | ~drug emcnabb |
| 19:27.09 | sjansen | Friends don't let friends be emcnabb. |
| 19:27.15 | emcnabb | ~pot elg |
| 19:27.23 | sjansen | ~toke emcnabb |
| 19:27.29 | elg | ~graduate emcnabb |
| 19:27.39 | elg | ~flunk emcnabb |
| 19:27.41 | ibot | ACTION shoves a dunce cap on emcnabb then encourages everyone to point and laugh |
| 19:27.44 | emcnabb | ~life elg |
| 19:27.46 | elg | ~die hard |
| 19:27.48 | ibot | ACTION murders hard, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 19:27.59 | emcnabb | ~slay elg |
| 19:28.01 | ibot | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, elg!" apt lops off elg's head. |
| 19:28.34 | emcnabb | ~fart sjansen |
| 19:28.36 | ibot | ACTION farts in sjansen's general direction |
| 19:29.01 | elg | i need a nap |
| 19:29.07 | elg | class starts in 2 minutes |
| 19:29.11 | elg | draw your own conclusions |
| 19:29.31 | emcnabb | ~wake elg |
| 19:29.33 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on elg and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 19:31.34 | sjansen | Man, what an emcnabb. |
| 19:32.18 | seww | aww im gonna be sick... ice-cream, coffee, chocolate chip cookies and coffee for breakfast... |
| 19:32.31 | sjansen | ~puke seww |
| 19:32.39 | seww | no shit |
| 19:33.06 | sjansen | ~language seww |
| 19:33.08 | ibot | ACTION grabs seww by the ear and washes seww's mouth out with soap |
| 19:33.15 | seww | are you kidding me? |
| 19:33.38 | sjansen | #utah is a family friendly channel |
| 19:33.45 | sjansen | ~punish seww |
| 19:33.46 | ibot | ACTION forces seww to install and use Windows |
| 19:33.52 | seww | haha too late... |
| 19:33.55 | sjansen | Let that be a lesson to you! |
| 19:34.02 | seww | yeah that kills |
| 19:34.14 | seww | i need to get my linux working on this comp |
| 19:34.27 | seww | or, the linux itself is working... not the wlan |
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| 20:29.36 | goozbach | yay pixels |
| 20:29.45 | redbeard1 | yay pixels! |
| 20:29.53 | elg | ~lart pixies |
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| 20:30.29 | goozbach | but I got a lot of pixels now |
| 20:30.32 | goozbach | lots of em |
| 20:30.49 | redbeard1 | goozbach: better keep the cap on, you don't want them to spill out |
| 20:30.56 | goozbach | yeah seww this is a family friendlly channel, so watch your language |
| 20:31.16 | seww | goozbach, so you cant sat shit? |
| 20:31.37 | tene | Yeah, that's the general idea. |
| 20:31.46 | Jayce^ | seww, yeah, because us big bad ops will kick after the warnings.. |
| 20:31.58 | seww | well why? |
| 20:32.03 | Jayce^ | just a basic attribute of the channel, the general population doesn't want it |
| 20:32.15 | seww | well thats stupid |
| 20:32.22 | Jayce^ | it's the community :) |
| 20:32.24 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
| 20:32.26 | redbeard1 | seww: good argument |
| 20:32.28 | tene | If you don't like it, go somewhere else. |
| 20:32.37 | tene | Obviously the members of this channel don't think it's stupid. |
| 20:32.44 | seww | yeah i guess... |
| 20:33.04 | Jayce^ | redbeard1, it's a lot of lumber |
| 20:33.13 | tene | That's like going into a painting class and complaining that painting is stupid. |
| 20:33.14 | *** kick/#utah [Jayce^!n=fugalh@dhcp29.cs.nmsu.edu] by elg (make an example out of Jayce^) |
| 20:33.44 | seww | well i just think its weird alot of ppl does't like swearing... |
| 20:33.48 | seww | or different words |
| 20:33.51 | elg | oh no, he must be plotting his revenge |
| 20:34.00 | elg | seww: and most of us think it's weird that people do |
| 20:34.04 | seww | yeah i guess |
| 20:34.06 | tene | It might be weird to you, but that doesn't make it any less true. |
| 20:34.14 | seww | true... |
| 20:34.17 | tene | We just think it's more polite. |
| 20:34.26 | seww | it depends how you use them |
| 20:34.48 | *** join/#utah Jayce^ (n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 20:34.48 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 20:34.48 | seww | if i would say "tene smells like s**t" i understand |
| 20:34.53 | *** kick/#utah [elg!n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
| 20:35.00 | seww | you shouldn't hurt ppl... |
| 20:35.12 | seww | but if i would say "this food tastes like s**t" whats the big deal? |
| 20:35.32 | tene | seww: regardless of anything you say, we still think that it's inappropriate and impolite to use certain words here. |
| 20:35.33 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@dhcp29.cs.nmsu.edu) |
| 20:35.41 | seww | ok |
| 20:35.45 | Jayce^ | seww, general community preferences is all |
| 20:35.52 | tene | If you don't like that, it's just fine, but it's not going to change, so you should find somewhere else to chat if that's so important to you. |
| 20:35.58 | *** mode/#utah [-o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 20:36.02 | seww | general community based on what community? |
| 20:36.05 | graphy1 | you could call them house rules |
| 20:36.17 | maquis | seww: we have rules in this channel |
| 20:36.19 | maquis | deal with it |
| 20:36.19 | elg | utah |
| 20:36.21 | maquis | or leave |
| 20:36.22 | seww | yeah i see that... |
| 20:36.22 | tene | seww: the people that regularly come here and the people that run the channel. |
| 20:36.24 | Jayce^ | elg, are you just missing emcnabb or something? |
| 20:36.32 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by goozbach |
| 20:36.52 | elg | op #utah -jayce^ -goozbach |
| 20:36.55 | elg | er um |
| 20:36.58 | elg | shucks, exposed |
| 20:37.20 | *** mode/#utah [-oooo Jayce^ goozbach maquis ibot] by ChanServ |
| 20:37.50 | *** mode/#utah [+oo emcnabb sjansen] by ChanServ |
| 20:39.44 | maquis | hey! |
| 20:39.45 | harleypig | Soooper Coloooooon Bloooooooooow! |
| 20:39.52 | Jayce^ | SCB |
| 20:39.56 | harleypig | garlic garlic garlic |
| 20:39.58 | *** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ |
| 20:39.59 | harleypig | Poor James. |
| 20:40.06 | Jayce^ | ~pity neybar |
| 20:40.07 | ibot | I pity da fool neybar! |
| 20:40.10 | emcnabb | woohoo |
| 20:40.21 | *** kick/#utah [Jayce^!n=emcnabb@draco.mcnabbs.org] by emcnabb (emcnabb) |
| 20:40.33 | *** join/#utah Jayce^ (n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 20:40.33 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 20:40.34 | harleypig | It could be worse though ... I could've eaten the kielbasa and sauerkraut I brought from home. |
| 20:40.34 | *** kick/#utah [Jayce^!n=emcnabb@draco.mcnabbs.org] by emcnabb (emcnabb) |
| 20:40.55 | harleypig | Jayce^ is a soccer ball? |
| 20:41.05 | *** join/#utah Jayce^ (n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 20:41.05 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 20:41.06 | *** kick/#utah [emcnabb!n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
| 20:41.14 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (n=emcnabb@draco.mcnabbs.org) |
| 20:41.22 | redbeard1 | fight! fight! |
| 20:41.29 | emcnabb | redbeard1: I've lost already |
| 20:41.46 | *** kick/#utah [emcnabb!n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (for good measure) |
| 20:41.53 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (n=emcnabb@draco.mcnabbs.org) |
| 20:42.06 | harleypig | kickball? |
| 20:42.10 | elg | see what happens? and all jayce6 said was "lumber" |
| 20:42.13 | redbeard1 | kickop |
| 20:42.24 | harleypig | jayce6? |
| 20:42.37 | elg | for those of us too lazy to hold down shift |
| 20:42.39 | redbeard1 | harleypig: you mean there's 5 more of him? |
| 20:42.43 | elg | but not lazy enough for tab complete |
| 20:42.55 | harleypig | what's even more scary is that there might be even more than that. |
| 20:43.14 | redbeard1 | no wonder Jayce^ won |
| 20:43.22 | Jayce^ | e^pi-pi |
| 20:43.27 | elg | guess we're too clean for sewwage |
| 20:43.41 | redbeard1 | ouch |
| 20:43.43 | maquis | Jayce^: wouldn't that be e^0 = 1? |
| 20:43.57 | harleypig | maquis: No, (e^pi) - pi |
| 20:44.06 | maquis | hmmm |
| 20:44.08 | maquis | good point |
| 20:44.08 | harleypig | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 20:44.26 | harleypig | Man ... now I have to see if that's true. |
| 20:45.52 | redbeard1 | harleypig: let us know |
| 20:46.15 | harleypig | It's been too many years. I need to look up the definition of e |
| 20:46.56 | redbeard1 | e = mc^2 |
| 20:47.01 | redbeard1 | so i've heard |
| 20:47.09 | harleypig | :] Not the same e |
| 20:47.21 | redbeard1 | they should label those things better |
| 20:47.23 | harleypig | but *that* would be an interesting equation |
| 20:47.57 | redbeard1 | ((mc^2)^pi)-pi? |
| 20:47.58 | harleypig | I don't think ((mc^2)^pi) - pi would be anywhere close to 19.999... |
| 20:48.38 | harleypig | You'd have to solve for m, since we don't know what mass we're talking about. |
| 20:49.07 | redbeard1 | well, mass doesn't have a whole lot to it yet, since it starts at midnight |
| 20:49.17 | harleypig | (m^pi)(c^2pi) - pi |
| 20:49.24 | goozbach | we're talking about e the constant, not e the varible |
| 20:49.48 | redbeard1 | harleypig: was that the click of something turning on or something breaking? |
| 20:50.02 | goozbach | `maybe both? |
| 20:50.03 | harleypig | goozbach: yeah, I know ... we're straying into the silly here. |
| 20:50.09 | harleypig | redbeard1: not saying |
| 20:50.13 | graphyx | its snowing!! |
| 20:50.19 | goozbach | snow! |
| 20:50.22 | goozbach | I need snow |
| 20:50.26 | harleypig | graphyx: Just wake up did you? |
| 20:50.28 | graphyx | in arkansas |
| 20:50.37 | maquis | harleypig: there is some value of m for which (mc^2)^pi - pi would be that value |
| 20:50.47 | Jayce^ | harleypig, you should know better than to listen to him |
| 20:51.02 | encryptz | graphyx: so, how is dvorak coming? using it all the time now? |
| 20:51.06 | harleypig | Can't help it ... he's got the silky smooth voice of the tempter. |
| 20:51.12 | graphyx | yes |
| 20:51.21 | graphyx | I am using it right now. |
| 20:51.24 | encryptz | cool |
| 20:52.01 | harleypig | maquis: you mean solve for m -- ((mc^2)^pi)-pi = 19.99909979 ? |
| 20:52.04 | redbeard1 | when did i get a silky smooth voice? |
| 20:52.12 | redbeard1 | must be from the french silk pi |
| 20:52.19 | harleypig | mmmm |
| 20:52.27 | maquis | harleypig: yup |
| 20:52.55 | goozbach | how's that sandwich comming? |
| 20:53.58 | maquis | goozbach: the earl of sandwich? |
| 20:54.03 | Jayce^ | that's a sign of your age harleypig |
| 20:55.01 | elg | 19.99909997919 in this calculator |
| 20:55.37 | elg | 19.9990999792 on my hp48gx |
| 20:55.54 | harleypig | Somebody check me and make sure I haven't forgotten something obvious: |
| 20:56.39 | harleypig | ((mc^2)^pi)-pi = x -> ((m^pi)(c^2pi)) - pi = x -> (m^pi)(c^2pi) = x - pi |
| 20:57.10 | elg | x+pi |
| 20:57.33 | harleypig | (m^pi) = (x + pi)/(c^2pi) -> m = (x + pi)/(c^2pi)^(1/pi) -> |
| 20:57.35 | harleypig | thanks |
| 20:57.41 | goozbach | geez |
| 20:57.47 | goozbach | advanced maths |
| 20:57.57 | goozbach | PINEAPPLE |
| 20:57.59 | levi | Dude, that's Algebra. |
| 20:58.20 | goozbach | dude, it's gots letters where the numbers are supposed to go |
| 20:58.22 | harleypig | crap ... I forgot how to handle (c^2pi)^(1/pi) |
| 20:58.34 | harleypig | c^3pi ? |
| 20:58.39 | harleypig | no |
| 20:58.41 | harleypig | crap crap crap |
| 20:58.42 | elg | harleypig: -> m = (x+pi)/c^pi I thik |
| 20:58.50 | harleypig | oh duh ... |
| 20:58.51 | goozbach | take the bit down flip it and reverse it |
| 20:59.25 | harleypig | so m = (x+p)/(c^pi) |
| 20:59.33 | harleypig | err ... |
| 20:59.39 | harleypig | m = (x+pi)/(c^pi) |
| 20:59.44 | elg | looks like it |
| 20:59.57 | elg | what's x again? 20? |
| 21:00.09 | harleypig | 19.999099799 or something like that. |
| 21:01.18 | harleypig | I don't remember how to handle the mph/s either. |
| 21:01.31 | harleypig | geez ... I'm not looking forward to my daughters math classes now. |
| 21:01.43 | harleypig | of course, that's still 3 years off ... |
| 21:01.50 | elg | there's always jacob |
| 21:01.55 | elg | that's where I go when I forget math |
| 21:02.06 | elg | you can also turn to emcnabb |
| 21:02.17 | elg | i hear he's really good with math. he wants to help everyone with calculus |
| 21:02.38 | harleypig | yeah, but jacob's not here is he? and emcnabb is still bouncing around right? |
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| 21:02.59 | elg | jacob's not here no |
| 21:03.01 | sargun | ~ping |
| 21:03.02 | ibot | pong |
| 21:03.06 | elg | but he has jabber |
| 21:03.37 | harleypig | Yeah ... but ths was just a pointless exercise in wierd math. That formula doesn't really do anything. |
| 21:03.54 | elg | right. i'm talking about 3 years from now |
| 21:03.55 | harleypig | I'm more curious as to why anyone would do e^pi - pi |
| 21:04.00 | harleypig | elg: :D |
| 21:04.06 | elg | when your daughter's math formulas which also don't do anything are at stake |
| 21:04.21 | levi | harleypig: Because it comes out so near to 20. It's an amusing coincidence. |
| 21:04.49 | harleypig | I mean ... why would anyone have done it in the first place, before they knew it came close to 20 |
| 21:06.20 | levi | Because that's what mathematicians do? |
| 21:06.54 | harleypig | heh |
| 21:07.02 | harleypig | Hey ... it comes up 20 in bc ... |
| 21:07.18 | harleypig | s/Hey ... it comes up 20 in bc ...// |
| 21:07.26 | elg | everything comes up to an integer in bc |
| 21:07.29 | harleypig | I didn't say anything. |
| 21:07.43 | harleypig | yeah, we won't say anything about scale= or anything. |
| 21:08.23 | elg | sjansen: go find a hole in the wall chinese place |
| 21:08.25 | goozbach | sjansen: do it! |
| 21:08.25 | elg | it'll be good for ya |
| 21:08.27 | elg | where are you? |
| 21:08.28 | harleypig | Are you pondering what I'm pondering? |
| 21:08.49 | sjansen | Tysons Corner, VA (just outside D.C) |
| 21:08.53 | elg | harleypig: whether cheesecake raised to the pi is anywhere near 20? |
| 21:08.57 | goozbach | where are we going to find two "welcome back kotter" cosumes at this hour, harleypig? |
| 21:09.10 | harleypig | :D |
| 21:09.22 | sjansen | harleypig: Yes, but will they let me in wearing rubber pants and a bloody cow's head? |
| 21:09.22 | harleypig | Shouldn't that be Welcome Back Potter? |
| 21:09.51 | harleypig | Only if it's *real* blood. |
| 21:15.19 | harleypig | wow ... that killed the conversatino |
| 21:15.25 | harleypig | s/ino/ion/ |
| 21:17.47 | graphyx | well everyone, my son has become really interested in what I am dogng |
| 21:17.53 | encryptz | http://digg.com/tech_news/How_NOT_To_Format_a_Resume |
| 21:18.10 | graphyx | My son max has become really interested in what I am doing on the computere |
| 21:18.28 | elg | sjansen: sorry, I can't think of any culinary advantages to washington dc |
| 21:18.33 | graphyx | and now wants to steal the keyboard from me |
| 21:18.40 | elg | maybe there's a smoke-filled cafe where politicians gather |
| 21:18.55 | graphyx | he keeps putting his fingers over mine when I am trying to type to learn how to type. |
| 21:19.11 | graphyx | utrqd |
| 21:20.38 | graphyx | max yellow |
| 21:20.49 | graphyx | I had to switch back to qwerty for him. |
| 21:21.07 | tene | Or just get a dvorak-labeled keyboard. |
| 21:21.16 | tene | steal one from the moon. |
| 21:21.16 | graphyx | max |
| 21:21.25 | graphyx | he likes to type his name |
| 21:21.38 | graphyx | I dont havd the funds right now |
| 21:22.06 | graphyx | anyone want to spring for one for me to help the next generation get off to the right start? |
| 21:22.24 | graphyx | maxi |
| 21:22.39 | graphyx | all |
| 21:22.44 | elg | it's called a typing tutor |
| 21:23.04 | graphyx | I meant with a dvorak key baord. |
| 21:23.19 | elg | they learn better when not looking at the keyboard anyway |
| 21:23.29 | graphyx | true |
| 21:23.33 | graphyx | fair enough |
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| 21:23.42 | graphyx | but usually they need to learn how to read and write first |
| 21:23.49 | graphyx | he is only 4 |
| 21:24.04 | graphyx | and is just at the start of his reading. |
| 21:26.00 | elg | print out the keymap |
| 21:26.10 | elg | tell him the keyboard is broken. that's why you got it for so cheap |
| 21:27.34 | graphyx | hehe |
| 21:41.10 | harleypig | OMFG! if ( !0 || 3!=4 ) { ... } |
| 21:41.56 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 21:42.22 | levi | ... |
| 21:42.50 | harleypig | oooo ... if ( somevar && ( !0 || 3!=4 ) && some.option.selected == magic# ) |
| 21:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... unique |
| 21:43.35 | levi | What's that from? |
| 21:43.39 | levi | And is there any explanation? |
| 21:44.43 | harleypig | It's from some code for an app I'm supposed to emulate. I can't say any more than that, other than I wish I could afford the house the guy we got it from lives in now. |
| 21:45.14 | harleypig | And there is no explanation. We think he used the !0 as switch to turn on and off sections of code. |
| 21:45.47 | harleypig | that's from a javascript, but they're scattered all over the perl code too. |
| 21:46.14 | goozbach | good grief |
| 21:49.41 | ScytheBlade1 | If not zero or three is not equal to four |
| 21:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Also known as "true" |
| 21:50.09 | Jayce^ | harleypig, I'm sooo glad I'm not on your project :) |
| 21:50.14 | harleypig | :> |
| 21:50.25 | harleypig | neybar has taken the brunt of it. |
| 21:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | harleypig, you need to http://www.thedailywtf.com/ that |
| 21:50.51 | Jayce^ | and the best part, this guy was at MIT :) |
| 21:50.54 | harleypig | I've considered it ... I'm not sure I can clean it up enough though. |
| 21:50.55 | Jayce^ | (no joke) |
| 21:51.16 | harleypig | True. But he wasn't a compsci major was he? |
| 21:51.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Have it be a "story" one then |
| 21:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | And just include the if (!0||3!=4) bit |
| 21:59.32 | dataw0lf | http://nightside.ksl.com/?nid=19&sid=834652 |
| 22:01.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ west valley |
| 22:01.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And provo |
| 22:01.18 | ScytheBlade1 | The provo one is made of awesome |
| 22:02.49 | dataw0lf | I like magna barbie |
| 22:06.31 | graphyx | What is the name of that book? How to teach programming to your children? |
| 22:07.10 | graphyx | elg? |
| 22:09.51 | macnewbold | dataw0lf: didn't you date a girl like that from magna for a while? |
| 22:10.08 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: hey, you were s'posed to keep that quiet! |
| 22:10.12 | dataw0lf | dang child support.... |
| 22:10.26 | macnewbold | is that why you moved out of state? ;) |
| 22:10.44 | macnewbold | don't worry, there's no law enforcement in here, nor watching the logs that ibot makes for us |
| 22:10.51 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 22:10.52 | dataw0lf | <_< |
| 22:10.53 | dataw0lf | ;-) |
| 22:10.59 | macnewbold | just don't make any enemies, and nobody will rat you out... |
| 22:10.59 | elg | graphyx? |
| 22:11.09 | dataw0lf | macnewbold: oh, now you tell me! |
| 22:11.15 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: Perl rocks. |
| 22:11.21 | ^Migs^ | LOL @ Rose Park Barbie. Black baby and a white baby |
| 22:11.41 | graphyx | weren't you the one talking about the teach kids programming? |
| 22:11.43 | graphyx | book? |
| 22:11.52 | elg | no |
| 22:12.04 | elg | i like programming C if you're going to teach a nonprogrammer C |
| 22:12.17 | elg | it's not a kids book, but an intelligent preteen could grok it I think |
| 22:12.24 | elg | an intelligent teen for sure |
| 22:12.50 | graphyx | I thought that someone had a kids book that was intended to teach programming to young kids. |
| 22:13.39 | elg | this one perhaps? |
| 22:13.40 | elg | http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_ltp/ |
| 22:14.02 | graphyx | no |
| 22:14.07 | graphyx | I don't think so |
| 22:14.29 | ^Migs^ | a kid's book is called The Pragmatic Programmer? |
| 22:14.36 | ^Migs^ | why not call it "Programming for Kids"? |
| 22:14.48 | ^Migs^ | who uses the word "pragmatic" for the title of a kids' book? |
| 22:15.17 | elg | someone didn't actually click on the link |
| 22:15.39 | ^Migs^ | oh hehe |
| 22:15.57 | ^Migs^ | actually I did, but somehow I managed to combine the text in the upper left and the title of the book |
| 22:16.07 | ^Migs^ | and add an "-er" at the end |
| 22:16.09 | elg | there is a book called the pragmatic programmer, and it's highly recommended |
| 22:16.11 | ^Migs^ | wow, how'd my brain do that? |
| 22:16.39 | elg | you can get it from that site. |
| 22:17.04 | elg | http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ppbook/index.shtml |
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| 22:32.42 | dataw0lf | heh, now that was embarrassing |
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| 22:38.12 | redbeard1 | ~lart Sony rootkit |
| 22:43.20 | maquis | ~lart Specialz |
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| 22:56.45 | nick125_lappy | errrrrr |
| 22:56.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 22:56.50 | nick125_lappy | ****, that wasn't supposed to happen |
| 22:57.03 | nick125_lappy | It was supposed to ping the *server* |
| 22:57.13 | elg | watch it, the ops don't like to be ctcp pinged. it's like the most offensive thing evar |
| 22:57.57 | nick125_lappy | elg: I know |
| 22:58.11 | elg | if they let you get away with it, then everyone might think it's ok to ctcp ping |
| 22:58.16 | elg | and we can't have that. |
| 22:58.43 | nick125_lappy | right |
| 22:58.57 | elg | i hereby move that nick125_lappy be subjected to automated insults from a bot |
| 22:59.12 | elg | brac, say ~insult nick125_lappy |
| 22:59.12 | brac | insufficient "say" auth (have 0, need 70) |
| 22:59.15 | nick125_lappy | hahaha |
| 22:59.16 | elg | shut up brac |
| 22:59.26 | elg | brac, say ~insult nick125_lappy |
| 22:59.40 | elg | -roulette |
| 22:59.40 | brac | elg: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 22:59.44 | elg | stupid bot |
| 23:01.22 | tene | -roulette |
| 23:01.23 | brac | tene: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:02.51 | macnewbold | -roulette |
| 23:02.52 | brac | macnewbold: chamber 3 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 23:02.55 | macnewbold | doh |
| 23:02.59 | macnewbold | ~roulette |
| 23:03.01 | ibot | ACTION watches macnewbold pull the trigger: Click! |
| 23:05.11 | tene | ~roulette |
| 23:05.13 | ibot | ACTION watches tene pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 23:06.01 | Specialz | ~roulette |
| 23:06.02 | ibot | ACTION watches specialz pull the trigger: Click! |
| 23:09.51 | tene | ~roulette |
| 23:09.53 | ibot | ACTION watches tene pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 23:10.31 | tene | It would be entertaining if ibot had instead said "What? You can't play! You're already dead!" |
| 23:12.41 | QBFreak | !lart tene |
| 23:12.50 | QBFreak | I bet it would help if I use the right bot char |
| 23:12.56 | QBFreak | ~lart tene |
| 23:13.30 | QBFreak | ibot: I think you overcooked him |
| 23:13.31 | ibot | You think you overcooked him? |
| 23:13.41 | QBFreak | never mind... |
| 23:13.59 | maquis | elg: ping? |
| 23:15.24 | bonez39 | 1.76 seconds |
| 23:15.48 | maquis | bonez39: a bit longer, i'm afraid, judging from the fact that i haven't gotten the pong back |
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| 23:17.54 | bonez39 | hmmmmm |
| 23:18.15 | bonez39 | could an apt-get upgrade break CUPS functionality? I think that must be what's happened on my machine.... |
| 23:18.33 | bonez39 | it worked great.....until a few weeks ago...and now..no networked linux to xp printing |
| 23:21.38 | bonez39 | dang..there's that efhutton effect AGAIN.. |
| 23:30.02 | elg | maquis: pong? |
| 23:33.08 | maquis | elg: i figured that since you're in nm, you might know this: |
| 23:33.26 | maquis | is arizona currently in mountain-time instead of pacific? |
| 23:33.38 | elg | az doesn't do dst |
| 23:33.50 | maquis | right... |
| 23:33.50 | elg | it's mountain standard time, but never mountain daylight time |
| 23:34.11 | elg | which means when it's MDT, they're in line with PDT or CDT, whichever way it goes |
| 23:34.22 | maquis | ok |
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| 23:34.31 | maquis | but... do you know what time it is in arizona right now? |
| 23:34.36 | elg | i could figure it out if I could just remember when dst is on and when it is off |
| 23:34.49 | elg | i've tried. I can't |
| 23:34.52 | elg | is it dst now? |
| 23:34.56 | maquis | elg: ok... thanks |
| 23:35.09 | elg | ~time |
| 23:35.10 | ibot | 2007.01.31 23:35:10 GMT |
| 23:35.11 | elg | ~date |
| 23:35.12 | ibot | It is now 2007.01.31 23:35:12 GMT |
| 23:35.17 | elg | -time |
| 23:35.18 | elg | -date |
| 23:35.27 | maquis | some time-zone site has an entry for Phoenix |
| 23:35.36 | maquis | and i'm guessing they're taking into account the way that arizona works |
| 23:35.59 | maquis | elg: i just figured you might be the most likely person to know |
| 23:36.17 | maquis | hmmm |
| 23:36.27 | elg | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=197 |
| 23:36.36 | maquis | if i convert current time and date between seattle and phoenix, it shows as being an hour off |
| 23:36.39 | elg | 1636 MST |
| 23:36.49 | maquis | if i convert a july time and date, it shows as being same |
| 23:36.49 | elg | it should be an hour off from seattle |
| 23:36.54 | maquis | elg: cool... thanks1 |
| 23:36.55 | maquis | ! |
| 23:37.05 | elg | in july it would be the same as seattle |
| 23:37.10 | elg | always gmt-7 |
| 23:37.16 | maquis | ah |
| 23:37.31 | maquis | i would say "crazy arizona", but in all honesty, i think they've got it right an dthe rest of us have it wrong |
| 23:37.37 | elg | me too |
| 23:37.49 | elg | not enough to make me want to live in AZ though |
| 23:38.07 | maquis | y? |
| 23:38.16 | elg | too hot |
| 23:38.29 | maquis | and nm is significantly better? |
| 23:38.49 | bonez39 | Arizona does it's own thing..different from the rest of the world... |
| 23:39.13 | elg | maquis: most parts |
| 23:39.17 | elg | we have more mountains |
| 23:39.35 | maquis | elg: ah |
| 23:39.35 | elg | but even here at the south end of the state in a relatively low area it's cooler than the big AZ cities |
| 23:40.48 | elg | there are of course a few small places in AZ that one could live in and still claim sanity |
| 23:40.48 | elg | i think we should all just switch to GMT and be done with it |
| 23:40.48 | elg | no more DST. no more time zones |
| 23:41.03 | elg | no more am/pm |
| 23:41.05 | elg | just 24-hour GMT |
| 23:41.15 | elg | and noon means whichever hour is midday |
| 23:41.42 | elg | we should also switch to metric and everybody get jet packs |
| 23:41.43 | elg | oh well |
| 23:41.46 | maquis | elg: i think most of us who deal internationally, particularly with computers, would be interested in that, although it'd involve completely resyncing our internal clocks |
| 23:41.58 | elg | maquis: it's not so bad |
| 23:42.00 | elg | pilots do it |
| 23:42.03 | elg | everything in aviation is GMT |
| 23:42.07 | elg | "Zulu" as they say it |
| 23:42.12 | maquis | elg: yeah |
| 23:42.16 | maquis | and i don't think that's a bad thing |
| 23:42.24 | maquis | but i think there's a *ton* of people who wouldn't like it |
| 23:42.34 | elg | sure |
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| 23:42.46 | elg | that's the problem |
| 23:42.52 | elg | there's always a ton of people opposed to anything intelligent |
| 23:42.53 | tensai | unix time, that's where it's at |
| 23:43.01 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 23:43.24 | maquis | elg: we'd also be able to get rid of the stupid 11:59am + 1 = 12:00pm thing |
| 23:43.49 | maquis | tensai: sure.. .and can we change dates to mayan long-count? |
| 23:44.23 | maquis | although we'll have to figure out what to do after that day in 2012 or whatever |
| 23:44.51 | tensai | maquis: only if we actually live past that date |
| 23:45.12 | maquis | tensai: true |
| 23:45.35 | tensai | so why worry about it now? |
| 23:45.59 | maquis | it's pretty impressive that the day that they were counting down to actually has a couple different interesting (and reasonably rare in combination) astronomical phenomena |
| 23:46.32 | maquis | i wonder if we will have anything like that for the 32-bit unix date overflow |
| 23:47.04 | tensai | you could find something "special" about any given date, I expect |
| 23:47.51 | maquis | :) |
| 23:50.01 | Specialz | At 23:31:30 UTC on February 13, 2009, a celebration is expected as the Unix time number reaches 1234567890 seconds. This day happens to fall on Friday the 13th on the Gregorian calendar. |
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| 23:51.22 | maquis | Specialz: lol |
| 23:52.17 | jgiboney | does anyone have any opinions about objective-c? |
| 23:52.57 | maquis | jgiboney: this is #utah. someone will have an opinion on anything you mention in here |
| 23:53.25 | jgiboney | well I figured that, but I didn't want to say "GIVE ME YOUR OPINIONS..." |
| 23:53.41 | maquis | i'm unfortunately not the one with an opinion on objective-c |
| 23:53.45 | maquis | but i'm sure someone does |
| 23:53.58 | jgiboney | thank you for at least responding |
| 23:54.01 | QBFreak | someone more objective? |
| 23:54.18 | maquis | QBFreak: something like that |
| 23:54.19 | maquis | :) |
| 23:59.36 | jgiboney | well maquis... we haven't had any opinions yet |
