| 00:00.04 | maquis | levi: feel free to beat him as much as you want |
| 00:00.14 | maquis | i won't defend him for that |
| 00:00.17 | findlay | ~spell maquis |
| 00:00.32 | tene | ~magic spell |
| 00:00.41 | findlay | levi: looks like maquis isn't even spelled correctly |
| 00:01.05 | findlay | so I'm lazy |
| 00:01.07 | findlay | hehehe |
| 00:01.32 | findlay | I don't think IRC is the proper place for well-formed sentences. |
| 00:01.40 | findlay | hehe |
| 00:13.31 | levi | "Life is just a big Markov chain, whose stationary distribution is death." |
| 00:13.54 | tene | Who are you quoting? |
| 00:16.22 | tene | Okay, WTF is up with Mozilla doing its own DNS caching?W |
| 00:16.23 | tene | ! |
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| 00:19.51 | vontrapp | vmware says my kernel was compiled with gcc 4.1.2 |
| 00:19.56 | jsmith | tene: What? Where? |
| 00:20.00 | vontrapp | it wants to use the same version |
| 00:20.21 | vontrapp | but the newest version of gcc in my repos is 4.1.1 (including debian unstable) |
| 00:24.27 | vontrapp | why would ubuntu distribute a kernel built with a gcc version not available to the distribution? |
| 00:24.31 | vontrapp | that's just silly |
| 00:24.47 | vontrapp | -lart ubuntu |
| 00:31.47 | findlay | heh |
| 00:31.53 | beandog | heh |
| 00:31.54 | beandog | thats classic. |
| 00:32.50 | findlay | vmware is obviously teh evil. Xen is the one true virtual solution |
| 00:33.23 | mrpull | vmware _is_ pretty nice :) |
| 00:33.24 | tene | findlay: that's not a *real* solution. |
| 00:33.50 | findlay | tene: but nobody's looking for a *real* solution |
| 00:33.58 | findlay | they only want *virtual* ones |
| 00:34.19 | mrpull | findlay: someday, you'll find in the real world that the FLOSS solution isn't always the best one |
| 00:35.05 | findlay | but if you don't floss, you invite the worst kinds of disease into your mouth |
| 00:40.56 | mrpull | i haven't seen anything from Xen that is like Vmotion or DRS |
| 00:41.07 | mrpull | vmware infrastructure is a really cool product |
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| 00:45.17 | calvarez | h'llo |
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| 00:46.47 | findlay | 'ello |
| 00:47.23 | levi | Yo. |
| 00:47.47 | Hhhhh | Tu? |
| 00:48.07 | levi | Yup. It's all about me. |
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| 00:59.36 | elg | ~rlart |
| 00:59.45 | elg | good choice |
| 01:00.03 | elg | ~rlart until beandog |
| 01:00.09 | beandog | heh |
| 01:06.29 | elg | ~rlart |
| 01:06.59 | elg | hope he's somewhere where he can see the superbowl |
| 01:09.27 | vontrapp | what is the vmware vmmon module for? |
| 01:10.01 | vontrapp | elg: i finally got metacity to behave |
| 01:10.20 | elg | hooray |
| 01:10.23 | vontrapp | but it still doesn't have a dock |
| 01:10.28 | elg | vmmon - sounds like it monitors vms |
| 01:10.37 | elg | what could vm stand for, I don't know |
| 01:10.49 | vontrapp | i haven't figured out how to use a different wm with gnome yet |
| 01:10.58 | vontrapp | i have yet to drum up that desire |
| 01:11.44 | elg | i let metacity tame me, for the short periods I use the workstation (and amn't flying) |
| 01:11.58 | elg | the only thing I wish it would do is not raise the windows on click. did you figure that out? |
| 01:12.07 | vontrapp | si |
| 01:12.34 | vontrapp | app->system tools->config editor |
| 01:12.45 | vontrapp | once in there you go to apps->metacity |
| 01:13.23 | vontrapp | it eludes finding by merely poking around because the apps section is full of only a bazillion apps, and you don't usually think of your wm as 'just another app' |
| 01:14.07 | vontrapp | and on the cs comps, for anyone interested, you can get to it |
| 01:14.23 | elg | my menus aren't the same |
| 01:14.26 | vontrapp | just go to sys->prefs->menu layout |
| 01:14.27 | elg | is it gconf editor? |
| 01:14.50 | vontrapp | then go to the app->system tools and enable the configuration editor |
| 01:14.59 | vontrapp | then you can get to it in the menu |
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| 01:15.49 | vontrapp | elg: yes, it is just gconf-editor |
| 01:16.33 | elg | so what setting? |
| 01:16.51 | vontrapp | it's in general, rais_on_click |
| 01:17.02 | vontrapp | s/rais/raise/ |
| 01:18.30 | elg | nice |
| 01:18.34 | elg | i think that must be new |
| 01:18.46 | vontrapp | i think it is |
| 01:19.04 | elg | wonder if Erin will notice. :) |
| 01:19.53 | vontrapp | i came across countless debates when i was searching |
| 01:20.29 | vontrapp | people saying things like "you have to click the tiny title bar to raise" and "click the microscopic border when the title bar is covered" |
| 01:20.38 | vontrapp | to that i say, "alt click, yo" |
| 01:20.42 | vontrapp | easy as rice |
| 01:21.36 | vontrapp | some had the deranged idea that raising could depend on what window content you clicked, empty space raises, and text doesn't, for example |
| 01:22.00 | vontrapp | silliness |
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| 01:50.48 | findlay | vontrapp: I don't want my windows to raise when I paste text into them |
| 01:51.02 | findlay | or mouse wheel over them |
| 01:51.22 | findlay | it saves me from excessive window swapping |
| 01:52.26 | QBFreak | =and what is the superbowl nonesense you speak of? |
| 01:52.40 | findlay | What's a superbowl? |
| 01:52.51 | findlay | does it have to do with supersymmetry? |
| 01:53.19 | QBFreak | I just got a Western Digital NetCenter network HDD, and I was working out how to mount a share under linux |
| 01:53.41 | findlay | with samba's linux client? |
| 01:53.43 | QBFreak | I had to specify a fmask, I went with 777 because I knew it was least restrictive, but is that bad? |
| 01:53.55 | QBFreak | smbmount |
| 01:54.11 | QBFreak | let me word it this way, what is ideal? |
| 01:54.23 | findlay | I've wondered that before |
| 01:54.25 | QBFreak | without the fmask I can't write any files, not sure if I can read or not |
| 01:54.35 | QBFreak | (silly me didn't check) but I can list files |
| 01:55.36 | QBFreak | well, I guess I'll leave it at 777 unless someone tells me otherwise :) |
| 02:00.09 | findlay | QBFreak: I believe FAT and all microsoft derived versions thereof mount with an fmask of 777 |
| 02:00.16 | elg | QBFreak: we all know you're secretly a quarterback freak |
| 02:02.40 | findlay | QBFreak: but that's just my experience. I could be quite wrong |
| 02:03.09 | vontrapp | findlay: of course, i was trying to get it to _not_ raise on click |
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| 02:26.44 | justingiboney | it worked, i actually got on to this thing through windows sharing a dialup connection to this linux machine |
| 02:27.42 | QBFreak | findlay: actually I think this device is running linux on the inside |
| 02:28.12 | QBFreak | but they didn't give me any sort of console access, that was sad |
| 02:29.23 | QBFreak | I want to push all the buttons and turn all the knobs, but all I have is this web interface |
| 02:30.10 | QBFreak | I did download the GPL'd source but I still don't know enough about anything to even being to make it go :) |
| 02:30.32 | QBFreak | I assume it would have to be cross compiled for whatever the heck this thing runs on the inside, but I don't even know what that is |
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| 02:31.05 | justingiboney | will objective c work in Linux? what program do people use to make apps |
| 02:32.06 | tristanbob_ | Jayce^: is your comment system working on you blog? |
| 02:32.17 | tristanbob_ | I wanted to ask you a question but it gave me a server error |
| 02:32.30 | tristanbob_ | Jayce^: "Jayce, |
| 02:32.30 | tristanbob_ | You probably don't often think about low-end equipment, but do you have any recommendations for starter kits? Perhaps around $200? |
| 02:32.30 | tristanbob_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.24 | elg | justingiboney: do you mean to ask what compiler? |
| 02:36.20 | justingiboney | i am only used to apple's xcode so I don't exactly know where to start |
| 02:36.58 | elg | ok. xcode is an IDE |
| 02:37.47 | justingiboney | IDE? |
| 02:38.05 | elg | integrated developer environment |
| 02:38.15 | elg | it's the editor, compiler, and debugger all wrapped up in one |
| 02:38.39 | justingiboney | ah! |
| 02:38.59 | elg | in the olden days, people did those things separately |
| 02:38.59 | justingiboney | so will kdevelop work? |
| 02:39.05 | elg | yes, I think so |
| 02:39.15 | elg | looks like gcc compiles objective-c, and kdevelop should be ok for that |
| 02:39.22 | elg | might need some compiler options, not sure |
| 02:39.32 | elg | about 1/4 the way down the page at http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6009 |
| 02:40.54 | elg | see also http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-lang/Objective-C/faq/ |
| 02:41.50 | justingiboney | thanks |
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| 03:12.57 | nick125_server | Windows vista launch is tonight |
| 03:13.02 | nick125_server | Must assemble the army! |
| 03:15.43 | nick125_server | Must get the LUG members together! |
| 03:15.59 | nick125_server | Also need to get the penguin lover shirts on :p |
| 03:18.49 | nick125_server | The compusa is having a midnight launch of vista tonight |
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| 03:47.05 | findlay | the day that DRM overspread it's terrible pall over desktop computing or the day the midnight bell tolls the prophetic knell of Microsoft's shark enjumpment? |
| 03:51.52 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest |
| 03:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Vista will likely be the first MS OS that I'll purchase for personal use |
| 03:53.14 | findlay | and I probably never will |
| 03:53.30 | findlay | meaning I hope I never have to |
| 03:53.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I use the evil empire a TON for work (mid sized WinXP/2k3 shop) |
| 03:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | And face it, when that's what you do, you'd be a fool to not learn all that you can in the field ;) |
| 03:54.17 | findlay | indeed |
| 03:54.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll do one of two things this weekend |
| 03:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Buy Vista, likely (and sadly) Ultimate edition |
| 03:54.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Or nuke XP on for good on the last computer which run MS |
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| 03:56.37 | findlay | well, in my profession I can afford to do all of my work on Linux or BSD or whatever I choose |
| 03:56.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Lucky |
| 03:57.06 | ScytheBlade1 | My desktop runs linux, my laptop runs linux, and I have one dual boot computer |
| 03:57.07 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: natural philosophy is for you too ... |
| 03:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is 99% of the time booted into windows |
| 03:57.31 | findlay | come away to the ivory tower and learn the ways of the Jedi |
| 03:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://softprocorp.com/ <-- tell that to them |
| 03:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | THE reason we bought MSSQL 2k |
| 03:58.23 | ScytheBlade1 | THE reason we're still a windows shop |
| 03:58.40 | findlay | well, you do what you can in this confused world and try to have fun while you're at it. Anyone who says differently is selling something |
| 03:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | True enough |
| 03:59.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm debating nuking XP in all honesty though |
| 03:59.46 | ScytheBlade1 | The dual boot was recently installed... working fine.. |
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| 04:05.50 | griffeymac | Hi folks. |
| 04:06.35 | findlay | ~mac griffeymac |
| 04:06.37 | ibot | ACTION saves griffeymac's soul from utter catastrophe by installing Mac OS X! |
| 04:06.43 | findlay | oooh |
| 04:07.24 | griffeymac | :) |
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| 04:11.30 | nick125- | wtf |
| 04:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:11.36 | nick125- | this is sad |
| 04:11.43 | nick125- | there's already a line for vista |
| 04:11.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Windows: eye candy, eye candy, and you're gonna have to upgrade |
| 04:12.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Linux: secure, stable, and I swear it's got software you can run! I mean, people give it away for free |
| 04:12.13 | nick125- | and a news truck |
| 04:12.14 | nick125- | wtf |
| 04:12.15 | ScytheBlade1 | OSX: I use my machine for things and I really like it. It's pretty. |
| 04:12.35 | nick125- | I love linux |
| 04:12.37 | nick125- | soo open |
| 04:12.42 | nick125- | soo flexible |
| 04:13.02 | nick125- | I'm wondering what the news truck is for |
| 04:13.27 | ScytheBlade1 | News, maybe? |
| 04:13.38 | nick125- | no idea |
| 04:14.23 | griffeymac | Oooh--new Mac and PC commercial on.... |
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| 04:18.15 | nick125- | this is sad |
| 04:18.25 | griffeymac | What is sad? |
| 04:18.49 | nick125- | there's a news truck at the vista launch |
| 04:19.14 | griffeymac | So what? |
| 04:19.26 | nick125- | its kinda sad |
| 04:19.34 | nick125- | there's already a line too |
| 04:19.37 | griffeymac | Not at all. |
| 04:19.45 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it's not, I'd argue that if there wasn't a news truck something would be broken |
| 04:19.49 | griffeymac | Lose sleep over important stuff. |
| 04:19.56 | nick125- | haha |
| 04:20.06 | ScytheBlade1 | And further, for the release of the WoW's expansion, there was an individual in line since noon |
| 04:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Note that it dropped to 10 below by midnight |
| 04:20.18 | nick125- | hahaha |
| 04:20.21 | nick125- | I know |
| 04:20.38 | ScytheBlade1 | My local gamestop had a line WELL over 500 |
| 04:20.41 | nick125- | I have a friend that works at a major video game retailer |
| 04:20.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It should be noted that I have three local gamestops |
| 04:21.00 | griffeymac | Of course I should shut up since I'm only a part-timer here... ;) |
| 04:22.24 | griffeymac | I don't play WoW. |
| 04:26.00 | griffeymac | Okay, I'm going to go watch some 24 episodes.' |
| 04:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Enjoy |
| 04:26.15 | griffeymac | Good night, folks. |
| 04:29.28 | Supaplex | gimmie 24! |
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| 04:45.01 | redbeard2 | Reality has become a commodity |
| 04:47.24 | redbeard2 | steven colbert has been messing with the wikipedia again |
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| 05:28.42 | nick125-- | this is funny |
| 05:29.01 | nick125-- | the guy demostrating vista is a FC5 user |
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| 05:41.55 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 06:00.16 | levi_home | Quiet night here. |
| 06:03.31 | Supaplex | SHH! |
| 06:03.35 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 06:03.45 | levi_home | Does everyone go to bed early these days? |
| 06:04.06 | Supaplex | I was thinking of it, but I know it won't happen soon. :-D |
| 06:06.14 | levi_home | I need to figure out how I'm going to design the memory model of my virtual machine. |
| 06:07.15 | Supaplex | bits are so overrated. don't use them. |
| 06:12.07 | tene | woot-off tonight. |
| 06:14.08 | levi_home | tene: You're off tonight, or someone's having a woot-off tonight? |
| 06:15.00 | tene | http://woot.com/ |
| 06:15.38 | levi_home | Ah. I used to follow that because I found the write-ups amusing, but I got bored with it. |
| 06:46.55 | findlay | near the Provo river in sub zero temp |
| 06:47.01 | findlay | fun |
| 06:47.11 | findlay | perfect running weather |
| 06:47.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, you know you have linux problems when you save a revised copy of a paper you wrote as "paper1r2" |
| 06:48.44 | Supaplex | real men do raw revision control by hand. |
| 06:48.50 | Supaplex | with ed |
| 06:49.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and then commit it to my SVN repository and update four computers with it |
| 06:49.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Just to print it out once. |
| 06:50.47 | Supaplex | hummm wrap a whole rolls of mentos in rice paper and drop it in the 2l diet coke bottle. humm... |
| 06:50.47 | findlay | heh, my SVN repo polls for print jobs and does huerustics on my past print preferences to triangulate the ideal print formatting and then sends it to my printer of choice |
| 06:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Oops |
| 06:52.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I left the paper title as "Paper Title Goes Here" |
| 06:52.42 | Supaplex | haha |
| 06:52.55 | Supaplex | atleast you spotted it now :p |
| 06:55.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll look good in the commit logs |
| 06:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | "Good papers deserve good titles that aren't 'Paper Title Goes Here'" |
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| 13:28.02 | calvarez | hello |
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| 13:59.10 | goozbach | good morning #utah |
| 14:10.16 | redbeard1 | good morning goozbach |
| 14:37.59 | goozbach | ~seen jsmith |
| 14:38.23 | ibot | jsmith <n=jsmith@000-150-930.area3.spcsdns.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #fredlug, 14h 6m 34s ago, saying: 'Well, I think it is... but I'm probably a tad bit biased'. |
| 14:38.55 | redbeard1 | ~seen goozbach |
| 14:38.59 | ibot | goozbach is currently on #ubuntu-utah #utah. Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 1m, last said: '~seen jsmith'. |
| 14:40.40 | goozbach | ~red seenbeard1 |
| 14:42.23 | goozbach | eek! deadlines. |
| 14:42.31 | goozbach | no more IRC for me today |
| 14:42.39 | elg | ~distract goozbach |
| 14:42.41 | ibot | ACTION puts on a black wig and saunters past goozbach with a cold beer in her hand. "Hello, sailor! Wanna go for a ride?" |
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| 15:05.20 | redbeard1 | ~haha elg |
| 15:05.23 | ibot | ACTION beats elg about the head with the ha ha bat |
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| 15:24.25 | elg | interesting http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/83917317/article.pl |
| 15:25.12 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 15:37.38 | goozbach | so I was at FHE last night, and we broke out the Children's Songbook |
| 15:38.10 | redbeard1 | freedom hears everything? |
| 15:38.16 | redbeard1 | free healthy elephants? |
| 15:38.17 | goozbach | we were singing "Do as I'm doing" and when it was my turn, I called out "BACKWARDS" |
| 15:38.25 | ^Migs^ | haha lol |
| 15:38.28 | goozbach | redbeard1: Family Home Evening |
| 15:38.38 | goozbach | so I sang the entire song backwards. |
| 15:38.41 | goozbach | it was great. |
| 15:38.47 | redbeard1 | filming heroes eating |
| 15:38.57 | Jayce^ | goozbach, remember, for most this crowd, breaking out the childrens songbook is not a new thing :) |
| 15:38.58 | ^Migs^ | is there a demonic message embedded within if you sing backwards? |
| 15:39.15 | Jayce^ | ^Migs^, only because goozbach was singing.. |
| 15:39.18 | phinux | "Do as I'm Doing" is still a main part of every FHE at my house. |
| 15:39.31 | goozbach | o/~ me follow follow doing as I'm do o/~ |
| 15:39.34 | ^Migs^ | that's fine as long as you have 3 year olds in the house |
| 15:39.47 | goozbach | phinux: Jayce^ this is at the student ward I attend |
| 15:39.58 | phinux | Excellent. |
| 15:40.00 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 15:40.04 | ^Migs^ | that's.......lame |
| 15:40.12 | goozbach | so it's been a while since most of us have broken out the childrens songbook |
| 15:40.16 | ^Migs^ | now I remember why I stopped going to student wards |
| 15:40.22 | phinux | And I beg to differ ^Migs^. The youngest in my family is 18. |
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| 15:40.53 | ^Migs^ | lame |
| 15:41.06 | goozbach | yup that's why you were kicked |
| 15:41.12 | phinux | It's about the only time we have liscence to run, scream, etc. in the house. |
| 15:41.35 | Jayce^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Y4keqTV6w <-- a little slow, but worth it |
| 15:41.54 | goozbach | this isn't another windows 386 movie is it? |
| 15:42.08 | goozbach | oh yeah... I'm supposed to be working |
| 15:42.09 | goozbach | I forgot |
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| 15:56.21 | ^Migs^ | oh that is FUNNY |
| 16:02.12 | ^Migs^ | that video is a little long, but still funny |
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| 16:20.02 | goozbach | ok one last thing: http://infohost.nmt.edu/~mlindsey/asimov/question.htm |
| 16:20.04 | goozbach | good read |
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| 17:14.25 | redbeard1 | oh man, i love pandora |
| 17:16.17 | harleypig | Why? |
| 17:16.49 | redbeard1 | i've picked up a couple of new bands this morning |
| 17:22.35 | levi | Blah, I picked up a cold. :( |
| 17:24.07 | tene | I've got strep. |
| 17:24.24 | levi | Yuck. |
| 17:24.43 | redbeard1 | buncha sickos |
| 17:24.46 | redbeard1 | er. i mean. |
| 17:25.24 | tene | it's really painful to swallow, and yet my mouth keeps generating too much saliva and such. |
| 17:25.37 | tene | Stupid Sadistic Organs. |
| 17:25.45 | redbeard1 | ~cough levi |
| 17:28.56 | levi | For some reason, I find it weird to interact with coworkers via IM. |
| 17:37.17 | maquis | levi: weird |
| 17:37.50 | sargun-screen | levi: Why? |
| 17:38.57 | levi | Because I'm used to just talking to them in person. |
| 17:40.03 | maquis | the only reason i find it weird talking to coworkers over IM is because windoze-messenger is stupid |
| 17:40.19 | maquis | and some messages take > 5 minutes to go 3 feet, while others get sent immediately |
| 17:40.25 | maquis | so, things get re-ordered |
| 17:41.24 | levi | Strange. |
| 17:42.06 | herlo-lap | ~ping goozbach |
| 17:42.08 | ibot | pong goozbach |
| 17:42.22 | emcnabb | ~lart sickness |
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| 18:21.32 | findlay | of course it can |
| 18:21.50 | vontrapp | -lart findlay |
| 18:22.03 | findlay | hey, at least you can get financial aid |
| 18:23.08 | vontrapp | well, all i can get atm is stafford loan |
| 18:23.39 | vontrapp | and i can't even get that yet until they're done taking their sweet time |
| 18:48.45 | redbeard1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikilobbying |
| 18:53.29 | elg | redbeard1: deleted and protected |
| 19:12.41 | levi | Wow, the dpcars.net guy is making excellent progress on his car, and has an Ariel Atom now too. |
| 19:13.50 | levi | Anyone with any interest in high-performance cars and motorcycles should definitely check out his site. |
| 19:14.21 | levi | He's designing his own race car, and his prototype is now drivable and has had an official track day. |
| 19:15.57 | levi | And he's obsessively blogged the entire development process. |
| 19:16.14 | levi | And his experiences owning all sorts of incredibly cool vehicles. |
| 19:20.03 | ^Migs^ | man, I love school lunch |
| 19:20.12 | ^Migs^ | JUNEAU, Alaska - About 10,000 Juneau residents briefly lost power Sunday after a bald eagle lugging a deer head crashed into transmission lines. |
| 19:26.40 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | Doesn't the subject look lonely? | sjansen wuhz hear | Don't you hate meaningless URLs like http://www.plug.org/node/28 ? | Vote for Pedro | There, doesn't that look better? |
| 19:27.38 | sjansen | ~poke encryptz |
| 19:27.39 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind encryptz, pokes encryptz repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 19:33.58 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The channel for OSS discussion | See http://tinyurl.com/yshnqh | sjansen wuhz lonely | Vote for Pedrita | There, doesn't that look better? |
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| 20:40.31 | sargun | hey |
| 20:41.45 | goozbach | hay |
| 20:42.26 | sjansen | This is an unusual week. Lately, I've been teaching a lot of small classes for Red Hat, but this week I've got 16 students. |
| 20:43.10 | sjansen | s/16/14/ |
| 20:43.17 | sjansen | (2 didn't show up) |
| 20:43.28 | sjansen | 5 of 14 are women, that never happens |
| 20:43.35 | levi | Heh. |
| 20:44.28 | sjansen | One guy, a Marine, is loud, happy, a little mischievous. He's sitting next to a woman so quiet and reserved I can barely understand her. It's going to be an interesting week for at least one of them, I'm sure. |
| 20:49.41 | sjansen | ~wtf wwkhd |
| 20:50.07 | sjansen | Neither do I. Somebody wrote it on the board while I was gone. I erased. Now it's back... |
| 20:50.15 | sargun | ~ping |
| 20:50.17 | ibot | pong |
| 20:50.24 | sjansen | ~wtf wwhkd |
| 20:50.53 | sargun | what would hk do? |
| 20:50.53 | sargun | or kh |
| 20:51.06 | sargun | what would be kh or hk? |
| 20:51.53 | sjansen | What would hacker kid do? What would happy koalas do? Weasels wear high knee socks^?dingoes? |
| 20:52.24 | Jayce^ | weasels will high kick dingoes? |
| 20:52.40 | goozbach | puglist |
| 20:52.55 | goozbach | wait, no. PINEAPPLE!!! |
| 20:53.09 | sjansen | ~pineapple goozbach |
| 20:55.19 | graphyx | What would Hari Krishna do? |
| 20:55.52 | goozbach | I'm so "In" |
| 20:57.38 | goozbach | as in pINeapple! |
| 20:59.37 | sjansen | graphyx: I guess that makes as much sense as knee dingoes, but IIRC "hari" is a verb. |
| 21:00.12 | graphyx | sjansen: like the religion? |
| 21:00.55 | sargun | ~PING |
| 21:01.07 | ibot | pong |
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| 21:01.55 | sjansen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Krishna |
| 21:03.21 | goozbach | herlo-lap: call me |
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| 21:05.40 | sjansen | ~call goozbach |
| 21:05.42 | ibot | ACTION looks around and then screams out goozbach as loudly as possible |
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| 21:08.33 | graphyx | just call him |
| 21:08.43 | graphyx | don't you have his phone #? |
| 21:09.09 | maquis | ~graphyx goozbach |
| 21:09.18 | maquis | ~sjansen goozbach |
| 21:09.20 | ibot | ACTION tells goozbach good things about sjansen |
| 21:09.28 | maquis | ~maquis sjansen |
| 21:09.30 | ibot | ACTION breaks sjansen just by looking in sjansen's direction |
| 21:10.04 | sjansen | graphyx: He might be teaching. goozbach is being polite. |
| 21:10.14 | graphyx | ibot, breaks means something different in that context. |
| 21:10.26 | graphyx | that is true |
| 21:11.09 | graphyx | but if he is teaching should his phone be set to vibrate? |
| 21:15.25 | goozbach | I know herlo is in a class today |
| 21:15.33 | goozbach | due to his hostname |
| 21:15.43 | goozbach | so I want him to call when he is free |
| 21:15.52 | goozbach | as opposed to bothering him during class |
| 21:18.08 | encryptz | ok |
| 21:18.47 | encryptz | i can't connect with icedove to any mail server, *but*, on the same network, my coworker can |
| 21:18.55 | encryptz | any ideas what this would be? |
| 21:20.02 | encryptz | it seems to be a problem with imap on ssl (porl 993) |
| 21:20.10 | encryptz | s/rl/rtl |
| 21:23.52 | encryptz | ok. we have progress |
| 21:23.57 | encryptz | only one connection at a time |
| 21:24.10 | encryptz | would dynamic routing fix that? |
| 21:24.50 | goozbach | no |
| 21:25.11 | goozbach | you've got problems with TCP queues |
| 21:25.15 | goozbach | or so it would seem |
| 21:25.41 | encryptz | what is tcp queues? |
| 21:26.34 | encryptz | and would the actiontech modem be to blame? |
| 21:26.41 | goozbach | I might not be using the right word but it's basicly a bunch of threads in an app that are in the "accepting" state |
| 21:27.01 | goozbach | which allows multiple connections to occur at once |
| 21:28.15 | encryptz | well, thunderbird/icedove allows multiple connections, doesn't it? |
| 21:28.33 | encryptz | or, are you referring to the imap application? |
| 21:29.47 | goozbach | the server app is usually the culprit |
| 21:31.35 | herlo-lap | ~lart goozbach |
| 21:42.52 | ^Migs^ | what the, it's only 2:40? |
| 21:45.23 | goozbach | woot that means it's 16:40 here |
| 21:47.53 | sjansen | graphyx: His phone should be set to vibrate, doesn't mean it is. |
| 21:48.40 | sjansen | goozbach's just showing he's a polite, experienced instructor with a gnarly goatee and a penchant for caffeine and evil fembots |
| 21:48.53 | sjansen | (Although I might be reading a bit too much into things.) |
| 21:49.29 | macnewbold | sjansen: do you work for gurulabs, or would that be a different stuart? |
| 21:49.40 | sjansen | guilty as charged |
| 21:50.25 | macnewbold | are you involved in the rebuilding of the web site at all? |
| 21:51.27 | macnewbold | with Cody? |
| 21:51.32 | macnewbold | if not, nevermind |
| 21:51.35 | sjansen | macnewbold: I pm'd you. |
| 21:58.59 | emcnabb | ~screw hardware manufacturers who distribute firmware updates in .exe files |
| 21:59.05 | ibot | ACTION asks hardware manufacturers who distribute firmware updates in .exe files to bend over |
| 21:59.20 | emcnabb | rofl |
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| 22:11.51 | levi | ~elg elg |
| 22:12.01 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps elg. |
| 22:12.01 | emcnabb | sjansen: it's ibot's fault |
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| 22:12.21 | tene | ~ibot emcnabb |
| 22:12.22 | ibot | methinks emcnabb is a 14|\/|3|2, or a closet windows user |
| 22:12.27 | tene | ibot: ibot emcnabb |
| 22:12.28 | ibot | ACTION does... erm... I dunno... some bot stuff or something to emcnabb. |
| 22:14.17 | emcnabb | ~ibot tene |
| 22:14.19 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, tene is Tenebram, or the king of pirate, or my god, or chocolate frosted sugar bombs, or a liar, or more winningish than goozbach, or evil |
| 22:15.30 | beandog | the king of pirate? |
| 22:16.41 | macnewbold | ~dataw0lf |
| 22:16.42 | ibot | methinks dataw0lf is sleeping again, or da supahstah, or a dink, or #utah's number one troll, or known by his full title: dataw0lf, Destroyer of Newbies, Troll of the Seas of IRC, God of All that is Technical, etc, etc, or a lamer as per "~nickometer dataw0lf", or stderr |
| 22:16.47 | macnewbold | ~tlapd |
| 22:16.49 | ibot | somebody said tlapd was Talk Like A Pirate Day. Its celebrated each year on Sep. 19. Its TALK like a pirate, not BE like a pirate, Arr! |
| 22:17.10 | emcnabb | ~mheath |
| 22:17.12 | ibot | mheath is probably half Marine, half civilian. The hanousness can't quite take over.... |
| 22:17.29 | emcnabb | ~sjansen |
| 22:17.30 | ibot | sjansen is probably too important to me. |
| 22:17.36 | redbeard1 | that's a funny way to spell heinous |
| 22:17.39 | macnewbold | ~spell hanousness |
| 22:18.02 | macnewbold | ~spell his royal heinous |
| 22:18.08 | macnewbold | doh |
| 22:18.10 | macnewbold | dumb bot |
| 22:19.17 | redbeard1 | ~spell heinousness |
| 22:19.33 | beandog | ~beandog |
| 22:19.34 | ibot | you are, like, cool |
| 22:23.36 | encryptz | goozbach: it was dynamic routing |
| 22:23.47 | goozbach | ahh |
| 22:23.51 | encryptz | turning that on not only fixed the issue, but seriousy sped up the network too |
| 22:23.53 | encryptz | :) |
| 22:24.00 | goozbach | well |
| 22:24.11 | goozbach | that's a network issue for you |
| 22:24.15 | goozbach | can be ANYTHING |
| 22:26.04 | levi | I'm glad encryptz isn't a network admin, too! ;) |
| 22:27.39 | goozbach | no kidding, just by saying that he made sjansen disconnect |
| 22:27.42 | goozbach | :) |
| 22:30.47 | encryptz | sweet |
| 22:30.58 | encryptz | maybe i should say it more often? :) |
| 22:31.34 | levi | C'mon, we like having sjansen around. He keeps the flames stoked. |
| 22:32.46 | elg | so if I do everything just right it looks like I can graduate a year from May |
| 22:33.10 | levi | Sweet. |
| 22:33.15 | levi | That's pretty quick! |
| 22:35.38 | elg | ya |
| 22:35.55 | elg | it'll take some discipline, but I'm gonna aim for it |
| 22:36.16 | elg | i think a year from december for sure |
| 22:37.01 | elg | so let's see, that's 3 years plus or minus 4 months |
| 22:37.04 | elg | roughly |
| 22:37.17 | elg | from the start |
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| 22:53.29 | levi | I hope, when I get to that point, I can finish grad school reasonably quickly too. |
| 22:54.28 | levi | It might be fun to stick around to absorb more cool stuff, but as late as I'm starting, it wouldn't really be wise. |
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| 23:02.22 | ^Migs^ | lame |
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| 23:12.17 | levi | Hey, this is pretty interesting: http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com/2007/01/29/taking-the-beat-of-cadence/ |
| 23:13.33 | levi | Gilad Bracha is getting back to coding in Smalltalk. :) |
| 23:13.40 | levi | For Cadence, no less. |
| 23:27.41 | tristanbob | anyone work through GRUB error 17 with SATA drive before? |
| 23:28.06 | bonez39 | tristanbob, error 17....eh? that sounds vaguely familiar.... |
| 23:28.11 | bonez39 | tristanbob, what is the trouble? |
| 23:28.53 | tristanbob | trying to install Ubuntu on a PC |
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| 23:29.06 | tristanbob | the LiveCD booted fine and so we installed Ubuntu |
| 23:29.16 | tristanbob | now it gives Error 17 when in Grub 1.5 |
| 23:29.23 | tristanbob | doesn't even get to the GRUB menu |
| 23:32.32 | bonez39 | tristanbob, did you post your woes in #grub.... |
| 23:32.43 | bonez39 | I don't know that you'll find more help there, but that's devoted to grub issues |
| 23:33.36 | tristanbob | I'm goolging for now... |
| 23:33.36 | bonez39 | good luck.... |
| 23:38.34 | tene | Wow, even more cool things in Perl6. |
| 23:40.46 | beandog | just reinstall it and try from there |
| 23:40.53 | beandog | grub, that is. |
| 23:41.02 | elg | i thought you meant perl6 |
| 23:41.20 | beandog | boot off a livecd, mount your /boot, run grub |
| 23:42.05 | beandog | or use lilo |
| 23:42.38 | beandog | make a grub boot cd for emergencies |
| 23:42.39 | beandog | those are nice |
| 23:42.41 | beandog | :) |
| 23:43.19 | elg | wow, hubble basically gave up the ghost |
| 23:45.40 | levi | Yeah, it's pretty sad. :( |
| 23:46.59 | tristanbob | beandog: thanks - will try tomorrow |
| 23:47.09 | beandog | ok |