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| 00:23.54 | calvarez | h'llo |
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| 00:45.39 | levi_home | Yo. |
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| 01:18.08 | encryptz | ok. i give up |
| 01:18.32 | encryptz | what's the css syntax to add margin between a tr and tbody? |
| 01:19.14 | encryptz | <table><tbody><tr class="padme"><td>some data</td></tr></tbody> |
| 01:19.19 | encryptz | </table> |
| 01:19.38 | encryptz | i want a 14px margin between tbody and tr |
| 01:20.23 | encryptz | so: .padme{margin: 0 14px;} and .padme{padding 0 14px;} doesn't work |
| 01:20.36 | encryptz | s/ing /ing: / |
| 01:20.45 | encryptz | driving me nuts |
| 01:24.13 | encryptz | can you not have in id and class on the same tag? i think you can. pretty sure, anyway |
| 01:48.48 | nick125_lappy | Wewt |
| 01:49.06 | nick125_lappy | I got a used copy of GT Pro Series racing for the Wii and it was still shrinkwrapped |
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| 01:58.56 | elg | anyone around? |
| 01:59.14 | levi_home | Yup. |
| 02:00.01 | elg | so I wrote this metar library in ruby, and one guy wants me to consider relicensing it (not GPL). I just picked GPL by default, so it's not like a religious thing |
| 02:00.21 | elg | but it got me thinking - how does the LGPL apply to languages like ruby that are interpreted |
| 02:00.25 | elg | (or lisp, python, etc.) |
| 02:00.42 | elg | the language is very C-centric iirc |
| 02:00.46 | levi_home | That's a good question. |
| 02:01.29 | elg | what I want is a license that says you can use it without modification to your heart's content in commercial software or whatever, isn't viral, but keeps it free (copyleft) |
| 02:01.30 | levi_home | Common Lisp users generally use a GPL-variant that's more in line with the kind of tight coupling that a Lisp program has with its runtime. |
| 02:02.12 | elg | maybe I misused the word copyleft, if I did ignore that. :) I just want improvements to the library to be open |
| 02:03.21 | levi_home | http://opensource.franz.com/preamble.html |
| 02:11.21 | levi_home | Man, the Burroughs B5000 was an awesome computer. |
| 02:12.34 | elg | that can probably be adapted, though some of the lispy concepts are really confusing |
| 02:12.50 | elg | confusing enough by themselves, and really mind-bending when they try to map it to C |
| 02:12.54 | elg | terminology |
| 02:13.04 | elg | I think I'll pose the question to PLUG. that ought to be a fun discussion |
| 02:13.11 | levi_home | Heh. |
| 02:16.37 | levi_home | The 'HEYU' instruction sent an interrupt to another processor on the B5000. |
| 02:18.01 | levi_home | It inspired Chuck Moore to create Forth, and HP engineers to create RPN calculators. |
| 02:29.51 | elg | the HEYU instruction did? |
| 02:29.55 | elg | or the B5000 |
| 02:31.40 | levi_home | The B5000 HEYU instruction sent an interrupt from one processor to another. |
| 02:33.15 | levi_home | The B5000 was designed in 1961. It was /way/ ahead of its time. |
| 02:59.12 | elg | hmm, maybe the ruby license already does what I want |
| 02:59.14 | elg | http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/LICENSE.txt |
| 03:01.11 | elg | in particular, I think it might be ok if I say GPL or you may use/distribute it unmodified for any purpose |
| 03:01.52 | elg | thoughts? |
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| 03:45.27 | emcnabb | so, I'm going to create a blog... again |
| 03:45.54 | emcnabb | I've asked this question before, which are the most popular OSS blogging programs out there? |
| 03:46.01 | Newsome | vim? |
| 03:46.09 | emcnabb | WordPress seems to be popular |
| 03:46.16 | emcnabb | Newsome: that works :-) |
| 03:46.22 | elg | blogging clients or servers? |
| 03:46.27 | emcnabb | elg: server |
| 03:46.39 | emcnabb | Newsome: has Jr. #2 come yet? |
| 03:46.51 | Newsome | yep, it's a girl! |
| 03:46.56 | emcnabb | woohoo |
| 03:47.01 | emcnabb | when? |
| 03:47.02 | elg | i use typo. i use an old svn version. it works and I like it but it wasn't trivial to set up (might be easier now - who knows they might have even released something) |
| 03:47.03 | Newsome | Jessica |
| 03:47.17 | elg | i used to use blosxom, which is simple if simple is good enough |
| 03:47.26 | Newsome | http://www.sorensonfamily.com/pics/picalbum.php?mode=album&album=2007%2F01_January%2FJessica |
| 03:47.38 | emcnabb | elg: I tried blosxom for a while |
| 03:49.12 | emcnabb | Newsome: nice picts :-) Lisa and I like the one where Daniel is holding her |
| 03:49.25 | emcnabb | Newsome: how big was she? |
| 03:49.36 | Newsome | 8 pounds, 19 1/2 inches |
| 03:50.37 | emcnabb | congrats! |
| 03:51.11 | Newsome | thanks |
| 04:30.48 | nick125_lappy | Aww, how cute |
| 05:44.13 | levi_home | elg: I don't think about software licenses much. |
| 05:49.26 | levi_home | Newsome: Congrats on the baby! |
| 06:35.35 | levi_home | Heh, "Lisp is like 'The Art of Computer Programming'. It's supposed to make you smart, but who has the time to read it?" |
| 06:51.16 | levi_home | Where is everyone tonight? |
| 06:52.27 | nick125_lappy | I'm busy bashing my brain with python curses documentation |
| 06:55.24 | levi_home | Python curses? Why curses? |
| 06:55.47 | nick125_lappy | because I want to make a terminal text editor. |
| 06:56.13 | nick125_lappy | And do not say vi(m) either.. |
| 07:10.18 | levi_home | Okay, emacs. |
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| 07:27.21 | bonez39 | anyone still up? |
| 07:27.29 | nick125_lappy | No :p |
| 07:27.47 | bonez39 | nick125_lappy you'll do..here's my question... |
| 07:28.21 | bonez39 | I am running on my son's pc...it has amd64 athlon... I have installed sarge amd 64 debian, partially |
| 07:29.40 | bonez39 | I say partially, because I haven't finished the installation....when I run the set up....it can't connect to the net..doesn't recognize my nvidia onboard NIC and thus won't finish... |
| 07:30.23 | bonez39 | I finally though...booted it... and found I could ping....my own domains....as well, varlinux.org, microsoft.com.. etc....known entities... |
| 07:30.49 | bonez39 | and yet...no matter what I set up in /etc/apt/sources.list...nothing would connect or download... |
| 07:31.25 | bonez39 | ifconfig show's debian finding an ip address.....and being UP....for eth0 |
| 07:31.43 | bonez39 | what am I overlooking with this? |
| 07:32.10 | nick125_lappy | What's the specific error? |
| 07:41.07 | bonez39 | the error....is ...I don't have it copied down....I'll have to reboot, then load debian..and figure how to save the output to a file on my shared partition... |
| 07:41.30 | bonez39 | I am running xp pro now.....on same machine... |
| 07:43.37 | bonez39 | what I need is a strategy for getting things set up. so next time I boot up linux...I can get things working... |
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| 20:03.52 | encryptz | The channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 |
| 20:03.57 | *** topic/#utah by encryptz -> The channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 |
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| 22:52.08 | tene | Any python-people around? |
| 22:55.18 | Supaplex | tene: they all got swallowed up and eaten. |
| 22:55.22 | tene | so sad |
| 23:05.59 | tene | Bah, it looks like dbus-python made some API changes that break old software. |
| 23:08.33 | tene | That's frustrating. |
| 23:18.05 | nick125 | tene: nice |
| 23:18.16 | nick125 | I love it when people break APIs without any notice |
| 23:18.24 | nick125 | Xen seems to be quite bad about that |
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| 23:48.45 | findlay | hello |
| 23:48.57 | tene | findlay++ |