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| 00:09.49 | tensai | brasto: I've used phpmyfaq for a knowledgebase |
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| 00:14.49 | brasto | thank you tensai, i'll try that out |
| 00:15.49 | goozbach | pineapple! |
| 00:20.19 | vontrapp | cobbler! |
| 00:20.36 | dataw0lf | shoes! |
| 00:20.53 | vontrapp | jam! |
| 00:20.53 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 00:20.55 | dataw0lf | <_< |
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| 01:11.51 | jnbek | any other comcast users having connection problems when it gets to 2F or lower outside? |
| 01:19.28 | dataw0lf | jnbek: you serious? |
| 01:19.40 | jnbek | yes |
| 01:19.54 | jnbek | last 4 nights when it gets to 2F outside, my internet connection dies |
| 01:20.02 | dataw0lf | Wow. |
| 01:20.07 | jnbek | and comes on when it gets above |
| 01:20.18 | jnbek | (usually 9-9:30am) |
| 01:21.26 | dataw0lf | that's interesting. I'm sure the problem exists between your modem and the actual cable |
| 01:21.43 | dataw0lf | since cable is underground, I doubt any temperature change would affect it. |
| 01:22.10 | dataw0lf | how cold do you keep it in your house? |
| 01:23.01 | jnbek | well they run the line to the house on poles, there's a pole in my backyard that goes to the cable terminal box on the outside of the house.. I keep it warm, lol, 78F in here, i'm recovering from a surgery and i tend to get cold easy |
| 01:24.08 | jnbek | we loose our music channels, and channels above 83 too |
| 01:24.37 | dataw0lf | loose connection on the poles? |
| 01:24.46 | jnbek | thoguh when i called night before last, the tech guy said he wasn't seeing any modems online in my area, which is why i asked here, not sure how many Comcast users in Provo idle in here though |
| 01:25.35 | dataw0lf | maybe there's a loose connection and when it gets cold the connection contracts, forcing it off? |
| 01:25.42 | dataw0lf | dunno. |
| 01:27.03 | jnbek | yea that's a possibility, but they only want to send a tech to look at my modem... not the lines, i doubt seriously it's the modem, it's only a few months old, and again, it works great in the daytime... i have work to do tonight, so I'm getting mad, cuz it's already burped twice, and for some reason my web browsing is hit and miss, yet i stay connected here... ugh, i guess i'll have to have the tech out to look at the modem.. and then whe |
| 01:27.03 | jnbek | n they realize it's not that, point to the ancient looking pole, etc, lol |
| 01:27.08 | jnbek | thx dataw0lf |
| 01:28.49 | jnbek | this is the first real problem i've had with comcast, and iProvo isn't an option cuz they throttle torrent and if memory serves they block ports, and crap.. |
| 01:28.53 | dataw0lf | well, I mean, if everyone in your area is losing coverage, it's probably a hub or short. I truly doubt if noone was online at that exact moment in Provo. |
| 01:29.11 | dataw0lf | expect more problems with Comcast, I can't stand them. |
| 01:29.45 | jnbek | yea, the tech could have meant just in my neighborhood, or my street, i don't really know.. it was like 2am |
| 01:29.49 | dataw0lf | next time you talk to them, just order whatever phone tech you've got to transfer you to a field guy or net admin |
| 01:30.18 | dataw0lf | any field guy should be able to pinpoint where the problem is fairly quickly |
| 01:30.29 | jnbek | i'll do that.. |
| 01:30.33 | jnbek | i'll do that now in fact |
| 01:31.21 | jnbek | thx guys |
| 01:31.26 | dataw0lf | good luck |
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| 02:01.07 | dilvie | http://digg.com/music/Timbaland_ripped_off_a_track_from_my_buddy |
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| 02:33.11 | findlay | jnbek: tell me more about iprovo blocking ports |
| 02:33.27 | findlay | I want to learn more about this |
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| 02:38.38 | nick125_lappy | anyone her got a fwd account that would be willing to give me a ring? |
| 02:40.09 | findlay | jnbek: because I've had strange port blocking problems with iprovo |
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| 03:33.30 | vontrapp | great, byu is gone again |
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| 04:20.32 | jnbek | findlay, i know they block torrent traffic, and i forget where, i think it was my landlord, was running a mail/www server and said they blocked those ports, and went back to Comcast... i don't really remember much, I was living in Orem at the time and was looking into fiber optic, and they said iProvo sucked, lol, but xmission told me they 'encouraged' people to run servers, unfortunately, i was forced to move and the bext place i could ge |
| 04:20.32 | jnbek | t was in Provo... now i've never had issues with Comcast before, just starting sunday night.. and i've been with them for 3 years... |
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| 04:26.37 | encryptz | i don't know why i bother with weechat |
| 04:26.49 | encryptz | then again, i don't know why i bother with nicklist in irssi |
| 04:34.18 | Zelut | encryptz: I still rely on nicklist but it can be a PITA |
| 04:37.54 | encryptz | yeah. it's amazing how easy it gets under my skin |
| 04:38.13 | encryptz | /n is just going to have to work for me when i want to see the nicks in the channel |
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| 05:44.43 | findlay | well, that was a good 2 hours of practicing |
| 05:53.55 | bonez43 | I have a wireless pci card...plus wired cable into my linux box...I think my net connection at the moment is via the wired....how do I tell if it's from wired or wireless? I am running ndiswrapper.... |
| 05:54.00 | bonez43 | on debian 3.1 |
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| 13:52.07 | encryptz | ok. who's a gimp expert here? |
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| 13:53.08 | encryptz | i have an image that i am copying and pasting to another image. yet, the colors of the copied image blend with the colors of the image i'm pasting onto |
| 13:53.10 | goozbach | expert, no, hack... yes |
| 13:53.14 | encryptz | how can i avoid this? |
| 13:53.32 | goozbach | ohh sounds like a pallet issue |
| 13:53.44 | goozbach | make sure that the pallets are teh same |
| 13:53.53 | encryptz | ie: the red of the copied image becomes yellow when pasted to the other image |
| 13:55.23 | encryptz | goozbach: thx. it worked |
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| 14:15.11 | goozbach | http://xkcd.com/c211.html |
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| 14:41.20 | elg | mmmm. http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/ |
| 14:41.43 | elg | I predict it won't be long before someone writes an ext2 fuse filesystem |
| 14:43.30 | Newsome | ummm |
| 14:43.45 | elg | ok, maybe I just hope |
| 14:44.20 | elg | does fuse let you mount loopback without being root? |
| 14:44.59 | elg | i've always felt jipped that you can't mount loopback without being root. seems like a perfectly normal thing to allow a user to do (provided he has permissions to the mount point) |
| 14:45.15 | Newsome | yes :) |
| 14:45.30 | graphyx | what does the fuse part mean? |
| 14:45.42 | elg | FUSE is about filesystems in user space |
| 14:45.56 | elg | Newsome: yes, it lets you mount loopback without being root? |
| 14:46.04 | Newsome | http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems - mountlo |
| 14:47.52 | elg | wow, zfs. I wonder if it's complete |
| 14:49.10 | elg | mountlo uses UML - does that require a bunch of setup headaches? |
| 14:49.31 | Newsome | sounds like it would, but I haven't tried |
| 14:49.40 | Newsome | it would be nice to have a native approach, though |
| 14:50.24 | elg | ya |
| 14:50.59 | elg | well, i'm off to ace another qual |
| 14:51.07 | elg | I hope. :) |
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| 15:28.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Anyone here know anything about (or work for) Iodynamics? |
| 15:32.09 | vontrapp | fozzmoo |
| 15:36.23 | goozbach | Lone_Wanderer: what you want to know |
| 15:36.36 | goozbach | I work WITH Iodynamics |
| 15:36.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, my company really needs a good sysadmin. |
| 15:37.18 | Lone_Wanderer | We have one but he's part time, lives in California, and doesn't do anything unless we specifically tell him to. |
| 15:37.32 | Lone_Wanderer | His response to a recent attempt to crack into a server was to change the SSH port to 6969. |
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| 15:37.57 | graphyx | what?? |
| 15:38.03 | graphyx | change the port? |
| 15:38.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah. |
| 15:38.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Don't ask me. |
| 15:38.18 | Lone_Wanderer | "Now they won't find it!!" |
| 15:38.36 | graphyx | like that would stop any single person |
| 15:38.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah. |
| 15:38.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Whatever. Point is, we need someone to manage our servers. |
| 15:39.08 | graphyx | If it was an automated attack script perhaps that would take care of it |
| 15:39.09 | vontrapp | i could be a better sysadmin than that |
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| 15:39.34 | graphyx | But a human would just change the attack port. |
| 15:39.43 | Lone_Wanderer | I could too, and I'm not even a "real" sysadmin. |
| 15:40.40 | goozbach | I'd say IOdynamics is a pretty good match for what you're looking for |
| 15:41.45 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 15:43.27 | goozbach | note to self: just rebuilding an rpm package is not suficent |
| 15:43.39 | goozbach | you must install the resulting binary rpm |
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| 15:49.36 | tristanbob | how do I view what type of processor I have? |
| 15:49.52 | synic | less /proc/cpuinfo |
| 15:50.08 | tristanbob | nice! thanks |
| 15:50.39 | tristanbob | how about memory? |
| 15:51.12 | vontrapp | /proc/meminfo |
| 15:51.23 | dataw0lf | or vmstat |
| 15:51.24 | tristanbob | I was just searching that directory |
| 15:51.29 | tristanbob | good stuff |
| 15:51.50 | tristanbob | I guess top has that too |
| 15:51.52 | vontrapp | tab completion is your friend :) |
| 15:51.59 | tristanbob | it is my best friend |
| 15:52.28 | dataw0lf | eh, me and tabby aren't on good terms anymore, he got drunk one night and made and arse out of himself |
| 15:52.29 | tristanbob | network card? |
| 15:52.40 | vontrapp | lspci |
| 15:53.34 | vontrapp | dataw0lf: made an arse out of himself or out of you? |
| 15:53.49 | goozbach | he's personifiying his tab key |
| 15:54.02 | goozbach | I WONDER who the drunk really is... |
| 15:54.08 | vontrapp | my question still stands |
| 15:54.10 | dataw0lf | vontrapp: I'd rather not speak about it.. |
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| 16:19.52 | Sargun | hi |
| 16:20.35 | unum | hi |
| 16:23.06 | sjansen | ~lart thaddeusq |
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| 16:33.07 | bonez43 | tene wireless setup? |
| 16:33.07 | bonez43 | hmmm my timing stinks |
| 16:33.12 | bonez43 | what channel would be great to find help in setting up a wireless card...in linux? |
| 16:34.51 | sjansen | Emacs has a sophisticated advice system. Common Lisp has, arguably, the most powerful advice system in the world, which contributes in no small part to the power of the language. Aspect-Oriented Programming is a herculean attempt to bring advice to the Java language, but due to fundamental limitations of Java, it has to be implemented as a language extension with its own compiler and other language tools, which has severely hampered adoption. Ano |
| 16:34.51 | sjansen | ther impediment is that Java programmers prefer to write dead systems, and any hint of a breath of life in the system bothers them greatly. |
| 16:35.03 | sjansen | -- http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/01/pinocchio-problem.html |
| 16:35.39 | dataw0lf | +1 QOTD |
| 16:36.27 | graphyx | Is that an enchanted object that you have for your computer? |
| 16:37.59 | dataw0lf | better watch it buddy, I have a sword of +4 QOTD, I can bash.org you at will. |
| 16:38.07 | sjansen | heh |
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| 16:52.58 | redbeard1 | ~1d20 |
| 16:53.00 | ibot | You roll a 8 |
| 16:54.41 | goozbach | ~2d20 |
| 16:55.08 | goozbach | I think ibot failed his listen check |
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| 17:01.56 | graphyx | ~2d40 |
| 17:02.04 | graphyx | ~1d5 |
| 17:02.16 | graphyx | ~1d20 |
| 17:02.17 | ibot | You roll a 14 |
| 17:06.25 | goozbach | speaking of failed listen checks... all of you who are not reading OOTS need to do so now! |
| 17:06.35 | goozbach | ~oost |
| 17:09.08 | maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 17:10.20 | thaddeusq | ~oost |
| 17:10.39 | sjansen | ~whaleslap thaddeusq |
| 17:10.40 | ibot | ACTION beats thaddeusq upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:10.48 | herlo | ~poo sjansen |
| 17:10.50 | ibot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at sjansen |
| 17:11.00 | sjansen | ~bake herlo |
| 17:11.01 | ibot | I think you mean ~cook herlo, sjansen |
| 17:11.06 | sjansen | ~cook herlo |
| 17:11.07 | ibot | ACTION throws herlo in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks herlo on 350 for an hour |
| 17:11.19 | herlo | ~travolta sjansen |
| 17:11.20 | ibot | ACTION replaces sjansen with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 17:11.35 | sjansen | ~funkbomb herlo |
| 17:11.40 | sjansen | ~funkybomb herlo |
| 17:11.41 | ibot | ACTION blows away herlo in a psychedelic flash |
| 17:12.00 | herlo | ~hugh thaddeusq |
| 17:12.01 | ibot | ACTION watches Hugh, the freakishly huge killer whale, body slam thaddeusq |
| 17:12.15 | thaddeusq | ~monkey sjansen |
| 17:12.16 | ibot | ACTION flings poo at sjansen |
| 17:12.19 | sjansen | ~stab thaddeusq |
| 17:12.21 | ibot | ACTION runs at thaddeusq with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 17:12.49 | herlo | ~fork thaddeusq |
| 17:12.50 | ibot | ACTION sticks a fork in thaddeusq to see if dinner's ready. |
| 17:13.43 | herlo | ~nice sjansen |
| 17:13.44 | ibot | ACTION lowers sjansen's priority |
| 17:13.48 | sjansen | ~eat herlo |
| 17:13.49 | ibot | ACTION eats herlo and falls over dead |
| 17:13.51 | herlo | ~kill thaddeusq |
| 17:13.53 | ibot | ACTION shoots a charged anti-quark gun at thaddeusq |
| 17:14.51 | herlo | ~thwap Jayce^ |
| 17:14.52 | ibot | ACTION thwaps Jayce^ on the nose with a 2 by 4 |
| 17:15.15 | thaddeusq | ~spoon WoodsDog |
| 17:15.17 | ibot | ACTION gouges out WoodsDog's eyes with a small plastic spoon |
| 17:15.30 | sjansen | ~silence Jayce^ |
| 17:15.31 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in Jayce^'s mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 17:16.32 | harleypig | ~spork Jayce^ |
| 17:16.34 | ibot | ACTION tries to stab Jayce^ with a spork and fails, then attempts to gouge out Jayce^'s eyeballs. Success! The spork IS useful! |
| 17:25.22 | findlay | why do I get so much email? |
| 17:25.36 | findlay | all of these mailing lists keep sending me email |
| 17:25.40 | findlay | and it never stops |
| 17:26.12 | findlay | I suppose I should be grateful for email because many people don't have it |
| 17:26.22 | findlay | but sometimes I just feel overcome |
| 17:35.50 | goozbach | order of the stick |
| 17:35.54 | goozbach | giantitp.com |
| 17:42.05 | Jayce^ | goozbach, great comic |
| 17:42.08 | Jayce^ | erfworld now too |
| 17:42.37 | Jayce^ | http://www.geek24.com/g/the-best-geeky-license-plates |
| 17:43.08 | goozbach | I keep thinking Intelectual Properity Theft |
| 17:43.12 | goozbach | when I see ITP |
| 17:43.32 | goozbach | I didn't know until recently that it means in the playground |
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| 18:39.58 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 18:47.31 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
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| 18:53.20 | elg | -lart sjansen |
| 18:53.28 | sjansen | -praise elg |
| 18:54.04 | sjansen | Wow, Zaphod lied. I'm actually the center of the universe. |
| 18:57.54 | sjansen | elg: Does that mean your test went well? |
| 18:58.39 | elg | yup |
| 18:58.47 | elg | but this one was worthy of being called a qual |
| 18:58.51 | elg | took me 3.5 hours |
| 18:59.18 | levi | elg: Yuck! |
| 18:59.59 | elg | wasn't so hard really though |
| 18:59.59 | elg | just that writing the complete denotational semantics even for a toy language can take a while |
| 19:00.00 | elg | not to mention axiomatic semantics proofs |
| 19:00.14 | elg | i filled the whole blue book (not all pages front+back though) |
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| 19:03.34 | brasto | i'm going 64 bit, any suggestions on a mobo and vendor? |
| 19:03.34 | brasto | I'll want to go cheap for a first mobo - probably integrated video even, with epci for later vid upgrade. |
| 19:04.28 | brasto | I want a something that supports open source |
| 19:04.58 | dataw0lf | ? |
| 19:04.58 | vontrapp | brasto: i just learned that amd64 is only an extension of x86 whereas ia64 is a whole new exciting architecture |
| 19:05.26 | dataw0lf | brasto: what do you mean by open source? Open sourced drivers? Compatibility with Linux? FreeBSD? |
| 19:05.47 | brasto | eg: I have used nvidia for years. however, i'm turning away from them now for lack of open source support - they wont allow pre-packaged proprietary drivers, and wont support open source |
| 19:06.10 | brasto | linux first, bsd second, but hopefully both |
| 19:09.06 | brasto | vontrapp - ia64 is the Intel 64 bit? |
| 19:10.55 | vontrapp | si |
| 19:10.58 | sjansen | ia64 = Itanium |
| 19:11.34 | brasto | $si = "yes"; ? |
| 19:11.48 | brasto | brb |
| 19:12.06 | sjansen | emt64 = Intel 64 bit x86 extension (similar to amd64) |
| 19:12.18 | vontrapp | oh, /me was confused |
| 19:12.55 | Supaplex | make sure your nic, sata/pata, sound, and video are all go :) |
| 19:13.22 | sjansen | Intel's onboard video card works out of the box with many Linux distros. |
| 19:13.52 | Supaplex | I hear it works with mac os to |
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| 19:31.43 | Supaplex | brasto: don't let JoshH choose it. the video will suck so bad durring moderate to heavy dma, you'll scream :-) |
| 19:32.01 | brasto | anyone know of a mobo with an integrated hard modem? i'd use a modem for faxes only, so it might be nice to have... |
| 19:33.16 | brasto | Mike Orr, an Orem local, owns PD Discounters, a couple blocks away. Anyone had experience with one of these mobos: |
| 19:33.17 | elg | mmmm, jack in the box |
| 19:33.19 | Supaplex | I have a 14.4 external USR I'd just give you :) it'll work find for faxes. |
| 19:33.40 | brasto | http://www.pcdiscounters.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_21&osCsid=3d586b5885053ea35c0de132a8230fe6 |
| 19:34.03 | Supaplex | can't be any worse then totalypsycho computers |
| 19:34.33 | brasto | i don't have my serial ports enabled, and an external model that old probably connects in the serial port... |
| 19:34.49 | brasto | oh yea, but this is for the new mobo... which may not even have serial ports |
| 19:35.25 | brasto | $ninePinSerialPort = "wasted space, wasted mobo resources"; |
| 19:35.33 | elg | that's like buying a car that doesn't have a way to manually lock/unlock doors |
| 19:35.59 | Supaplex | so why waste the space on an intigrated hardware modem when they can get away with a brainless one? |
| 19:36.18 | elg | i very much doubt you'll find an integrated hardware modem |
| 19:36.32 | elg | and a serial port takes up a lot less space on the mobo than a modem |
| 19:36.43 | Supaplex | 10 to 1 you'll find more computers without a serial port then ones with an internal hardware modem |
| 19:37.24 | Supaplex | and you'll have to make some effort to find total lack of a serial port :) |
| 19:37.25 | elg | with a serial port you mean |
| 19:37.47 | Supaplex | with is a no brainer |
| 19:38.22 | macnewbold | on newer stuff I've used, built in 56K modem is pretty standard, and serial ports and parallel ports might be there or might not |
| 19:42.50 | brasto | true... the first mobo would just be a temp one to offset the cost of initial new mobo/ram/video/cpu |
| 19:43.06 | brasto | but i hadn't thought of the integrated modem taking more space... |
| 19:43.51 | brasto | macnewbold, the built in modem is probably a softmodem? |
| 19:44.08 | sjansen | probably |
| 19:44.15 | Supaplex | odds are yes |
| 19:45.39 | sjansen | evens are no? |
| 19:45.50 | elg | evens are stevens |
| 19:46.35 | sjansen | what about zero? |
| 19:46.42 | elg | zero's a hero |
| 19:47.23 | sjansen | elg: Wow, maybe I should go back to school too. You seem to know a whole buncha stuff. |
| 19:50.39 | ^Migs^ | he's all smart and junk |
| 19:50.49 | ^Migs^ | college kids usually think they are |
| 20:10.26 | ^Migs^ | hey, I have a new abbreviation: wapits: "What a Pain in the Ass." Use it and pass it on. It's catchy. |
| 20:15.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Is there any free program, that's halfway decent, that will open MS Access files? (.mdb) |
| 20:16.13 | Lone_Wanderer | ^Migs^: I was thinking "wapinta" |
| 20:16.26 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I meant wapita. s is right next to the a |
| 20:18.26 | bonez43 | Could someone help me understand the following >>> "Get 0.4.9 or newer version of wpa_supplicant from [[1]]. In wpa_supplicant directory, add .config file so it contains driver support for wext and a control interface i.e., add the following line to .config file: CONFIG_DRIVER_WEXT=y CONFIG_CTRL_IFACE=y Now compile it with "make" and copy wpa_supplicant, wpa_passphrase and wpa_cli to ...." |
| 20:18.52 | bonez43 | I am trying to enable a wireless pci card....AWD154 with Marvel chipset.... |
| 20:19.32 | harleypig | Marvel Comics? |
| 20:19.36 | bonez43 | the part that confuses me is where, since I installed wpasupplicant using apt-get, is where it tells me to create .config , and then to "compile it with 'make' and copy....." |
| 20:19.45 | bonez43 | oh, I wish, Harleypig |
| 20:20.17 | bonez43 | it's assumisng I am creating this from source,and thus will have a source folder....with the make files.....but I don't have that.... |
| 20:20.52 | bonez43 | I just have the binary......which apt-get installs..... |
| 20:21.13 | ^Migs^ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=EAfp1JPyrwI |
| 20:21.18 | ^Migs^ | oops |
| 20:21.18 | ^Migs^ | nm |
| 20:21.37 | ^Migs^ | okay, new term is officialy "wapos"...even more catchy |
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| 20:24.04 | harleypig | ^Migs^: That's a bad video |
| 20:24.39 | ^Migs^ | I didn't mean to post that |
| 20:24.41 | bonez43 | no takers, on my wpa project? |
| 20:24.47 | ^Migs^ | but yeah, it's pathetic |
| 20:24.56 | harleypig | A friend of yours? |
| 20:25.04 | ^Migs^ | no |
| 20:25.15 | ^Migs^ | someone in another channel posted it and thought it was funny |
| 20:25.20 | ^Migs^ | why would you assume it's a friend of mine? |
| 20:26.36 | Supaplex | someone can be anyone, even you |
| 20:29.10 | harleypig | :0 |
| 20:29.10 | harleypig | err .. :) |
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| 20:30.20 | Lone_Wanderer | Isn't there anyone that someone can't be? |
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| 20:33.44 | sjansen | ~brulee redbeard1 |
| 20:33.46 | ibot | ACTION whisks redbeard1 with eggs and cream, and bakes at 350F before sprinkling with sugar and torching |
| 20:35.25 | redbeard1 | ~1d20 sjansen |
| 20:35.35 | redbeard1 | ~roll sjansen |
| 20:35.37 | ibot | ACTION stuffs sjansen in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 20:36.16 | Supaplex | atleast redbeard1 smells better now. =o) |
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| 20:37.48 | redbeard1 | hey! |
| 20:37.56 | redbeard1 | i showered just this month |
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| 20:45.59 | macnewbold | ah, it was brasto. very possibly (likely) a softmodem. |
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| 21:04.04 | synic | who's good with HTTP::Cookies and WWW::Mechanize? How can I make it so that the cookies in the jar are persistent even after the script ends (and even if they are marked to expire when the browser closes) ? |
| 21:07.13 | synic | nevermind, got it :) |
| 21:08.01 | harleypig | $cookie_jar->save |
| 21:08.20 | synic | well, it's the save_discarded option |
| 21:08.27 | synic | it keeps the ones that are marked to be discarded |
| 21:10.03 | harleypig | I'm not familiar with that ... I've been using $cj = HTTP::Cookies->new({ ignore_discard => 1 }) |
| 21:11.12 | synic | oh wait, yeah, that's the option |
| 21:11.27 | synic | if you don't specify a file name, does it just pick one in /tmp or something? |
| 21:12.34 | harleypig | I don't know ... I've always used the constructor option ... saves memory (mine) and typing later. |
| 21:12.44 | Supaplex | if you don't save it to a file, it'll just hang out in ram, right? |
| 21:13.04 | dataw0lf | I sure hope not. |
| 21:13.11 | dataw0lf | I think it'd create a /tmp file |
| 21:13.54 | harleypig | Yeah, if you don't $cj->save ... but if you haven't set file in the new or pass it in the save command I don'tknow what it does. |
| 21:14.19 | Supaplex | i'm too lazy to check the perldoc myself. :) |
| 21:15.07 | harleypig | Just did ... it doesn't say what it does, only that the save command falls back to the file used in the constructor. |
| 21:17.25 | synic | hrmm, I'll just use the constructor |
| 21:18.24 | harleypig | Ah. UTSL! It returns silently without actually saving the file if it's not specified. |
| 21:18.56 | harleypig | my $file = shift || $self->{'file'} || return; |
| 21:19.10 | harleypig | That's annoying. |
| 21:20.32 | synic | man, WWW::Mechanized is too cool. Gonna save me some serious time. |
| 21:20.57 | harleypig | Ah ... didn't read it closely enough. If it succeeds then it returns a 1, so it's up tot he programmer to check: $cj->save or die "unable to save cookie file" |
| 21:21.13 | harleypig | synic: Yeah ... it's a really cool app ... the only thing left is to get spider monkey working with it. |
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| 21:54.04 | elg | fin |
| 21:54.38 | elg | ironically that was the hardest one |
| 21:54.40 | elg | the computer music one |
| 22:03.49 | levi | Well, it does seem appropriate that you would be tested most thoroughly in the area you wish to research in. |
| 22:03.57 | levi | But congrats on finishing. :) |
| 22:06.17 | elg | yeah, but it's also the area you know best by a long shot. it was a good exam but it was annoying that it was closed book |
| 22:06.32 | elg | the things I didn't know where just that - holes in my knowledge or memory |
| 22:12.03 | sjansen | So does this mean it's official? elg is qualifiable. |
| 22:12.12 | elg | if I passed them |
| 22:12.17 | elg | which I probably did |
| 22:12.25 | elg | but won't know for a couple weeks probably |
| 22:12.45 | elg | certifiable, otoh |
| 22:16.50 | findlay | hello |
| 22:17.14 | elg | no |
| 22:17.38 | findlay | not |
| 22:26.59 | encryptz | ok |
| 22:27.12 | encryptz | i need some perl pattern matching help here |
| 22:27.30 | findlay | ~m/encryptz/ |
| 22:27.58 | encryptz | $counter+=1 if ($file =~ m/(*.ogg)/); # isn't working. what am i doing wrong? |
| 22:28.24 | findlay | encryptz: are you sure it's the pattern match that's giving you problems? |
| 22:28.34 | encryptz | yeah |
| 22:28.47 | findlay | well, it's not properly constructer, first of all |
| 22:28.55 | encryptz | ^* matches null string many times in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/(^* <-- HERE .ogg)/ at ./oggdir.pl line 25. |
| 22:28.55 | findlay | and I'd add some anchors |
| 22:29.15 | findlay | you have a quantifier without a [meta]character to quantify |
| 22:29.26 | encryptz | ok. so what do i need to change? |
| 22:29.32 | findlay | in regexes /*/ is a quantifier, not just a glob |
| 22:29.33 | encryptz | pattern matching is still very new to me |
| 22:30.07 | Jayce^ | encryptz, you'll want something more like m/\.ogg$/ |
| 22:30.22 | findlay | encryptz: try this: $file =~ m/^.+\.ogg$/; |
| 22:30.22 | Jayce^ | which means "ends with .ogg" |
| 22:30.41 | findlay | yeah |
| 22:30.41 | Jayce^ | findlay, probably doesn't even care about the first part.. no need to anchor/quantify it |
| 22:30.52 | Jayce^ | you're forcing it to count more in that case |
| 22:30.55 | findlay | that's true |
| 22:31.35 | Jayce^ | actually it's going to work out as "ends with a g, preceeded by a g, preceeded by an o, preceeded by a "."" |
| 22:31.35 | encryptz | i see |
| 22:32.10 | findlay | heh, Jayce^ has some pretty serious regex sk1llz |
| 22:33.13 | Jayce^ | heh, then we could get into what the optimizer does with a simple pattern like that... |
| 22:35.48 | findlay | encryptz: and you probably don't need the (parenthesis) capture either |
| 22:35.56 | Jayce^ | definately don't.. |
| 22:36.40 | encryptz | ok. just uneccesary, or causing problems? |
| 22:36.51 | Jayce^ | of course, you don't need the += either, you can get the count if you match on a /g |
| 22:37.19 | Jayce^ | unecessary, it's capturing that part into a variable.. unnecessary overhead |
| 22:37.25 | encryptz | ok. |
| 22:37.31 | encryptz | what's this about /g? |
| 22:38.00 | findlay | global |
| 22:38.02 | macnewbold | encryptz: /g on the end of a regular expression says to do the replacement globally instead of just once |
| 22:38.08 | macnewbold | but findlay types faster than I |
| 22:38.21 | findlay | encryptz: you may find `perldoc perlretut` instructive |
| 22:38.41 | encryptz | ok, i knew about the global, but why wouldn't i need $counter to count all the matches? |
| 22:38.50 | encryptz | i want to display the count |
| 22:39.29 | findlay | encryptz: I don't see why you can't count them |
| 22:52.57 | elg | -weather klru |
| 22:52.58 | brac | 1 hours, 22 minutes ago, on Wed Jan 17 22:32:00 UTC 2007, the wind was blowing at a speed of 1.54 meters per second (3.45 miles per hour) from the Southeast at KLRU. The temperature was 6 degrees Celsius (43 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1022 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 56.5%. There were scattered clouds at a height of 701 meters (2300 feet), scattered clouds at a height of 2896 meter (9500 |
| 22:52.58 | brac | feet) and scattered clouds at a height of 3658 meters (12000 feet). |
| 22:53.20 | elg | an hour and a half ago does me no good you bot |
| 22:56.11 | findlay | how can I translate <table cell-padding="4px"> into css? |
| 22:57.12 | findlay | I tried .table-style {cell-padding="4px"} and <table class="table-style"> but that doesn't work |
| 22:57.22 | findlay | and it's hard to find a good CSS reference |
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| 23:17.41 | encryptz | !w 84117 |
| 23:17.45 | UtahBot | Holladay, Utah; Updated: 16:16 (January 17, 2007); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 25.3°F (-3.7°C); High/Low: 25/7°F (-3/-13°C); Humidity: 52%; Dew Point: 10°F (-12°C); UV: 1/16; Wind: SW |
| 23:18.33 | bonez39 | macnewbold, got a minute? |
| 23:18.48 | encryptz | findlay: .table-style {padding: 4px;} |
| 23:18.57 | macnewbold | bonez39: sort of, what's up? |
| 23:20.52 | bonez39 | it's my wireless card setup....it's almost there....I am running WAP for security on my home network..... |
| 23:21.46 | bonez39 | i have an AWD154 PCI wireless card...in my home linux box...I am setting it up per instructions found here > http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA |
| 23:21.52 | bonez39 | I have wpasupplicant installed via apt-get..... |
| 23:22.03 | bonez39 | WAP = WPA |
| 23:23.36 | macnewbold | okay |
| 23:23.54 | bonez39 | not sure if you are following but it suggests I download the source..but instead I run apt-get..then the instructions say to set up .config in the wpa_supplicant directory...it's unclear, since I have no source for this...at present, which directory the instructions mean... |
| 23:24.17 | bonez39 | it says to set up .config in the wpa_supplicant folder...and then to compile a short two line script there.... |
| 23:24.25 | harleypig | whappa whappa |
| 23:25.17 | bonez39 | I can't access the source or tarball for this...and thus can't compile or make per the instructions....I guess what i need to know if this is a dead end.... |
| 23:31.17 | findlay | ~wpa harleypig |
| 23:31.42 | bonez39 | ~wpa bonez39 |
| 23:31.58 | bonez39 | hmm |
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| 23:50.10 | maquis | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16673691/ |
| 23:50.48 | maquis | a 9-year-old who is a repeat runaway, *and* a repeat car thief has definitely got issues |
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| 23:54.47 | bonez39 | he's prolly possessed.....maquis |
| 23:55.08 | maquis | definitely has issues |
| 23:55.12 | maquis | that's all i can say |
| 23:57.04 | bonez39 | Here's a sambaesque question.. in my /etc/hosts file I have an entry "10.0.0.6 seth" and the C drive is shared on 'seth'...with mountpoint at /sethc |
| 23:57.44 | bonez39 | I issue > mount /sethc but instead of responding with Password: I get the following: timeout connecting to 64.34.106.128:445 |
| 23:57.44 | bonez39 | timeout connecting to 64.34.106.128:139 |
| 23:57.44 | bonez39 | Error connecting to 64.34.106.128 (Operation already in progress) |
| 23:57.44 | bonez39 | 11855: Connection to seth failed |
| 23:58.14 | bonez39 | any idea why, if I have that set in /etc/hosts, why my attempt to mount /sethc would instead seek out IP 64.35.106.128? |
| 23:59.25 | bonez39 | and then, if I su to root, I can mount /sethc just fine...immediately..... |
| 23:59.30 | bonez39 | but not as user..... |