| 00:03.14 | findlay | goozbach: nothing, actually |
| 00:05.53 | *** part/#utah [phoenyx] (n=tthorley@64.147.152.13) |
| 00:13.44 | bonez39 | anyone have experience using KVM? I have one monitor..on my linux box..and it's going ... colors are shifting and it's getting weird....hoping a KVM switch would allow me to use one monitor for both machines.... |
| 00:14.31 | nick125_lappy | bonez39: It would, but, of course, you could only view one screen at a time ;) |
| 00:15.11 | bonez39 | I don't need to view both screens at the same time......I wouldn't mind switching ..... |
| 00:15.31 | nick125_lappy | you could also use one keyboard and mouse for both machines |
| 00:16.02 | bonez39 | the monitor I have is 19" or 21" .. big old beast.but newer than current monitor.... |
| 00:16.22 | bonez39 | I wouldn't mind using just one keyboard for both machines...it would clear off my counter space.... |
| 00:16.37 | nick125_lappy | yup |
| 00:16.38 | bonez39 | EBC here sells a switch for 4 machines...for $50 ... is that reasonable? |
| 00:16.42 | macnewbold | KVM |
| 00:16.43 | nick125_lappy | that's not bad |
| 00:16.46 | bonez39 | ok..... |
| 00:16.47 | Tene | not bad |
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| 00:16.53 | macnewbold | not bad at all, if it includes the cables |
| 00:17.04 | decriptor | is the plug meeting tonight |
| 00:17.07 | Tene | so bonez39 how's that amd64 machine doing? |
| 00:17.08 | bonez39 | I think it includes cabling....6'... |
| 00:17.10 | macnewbold | sometimes they charge extra for each set of cables, sometimes $20-30 each |
| 00:17.21 | bonez39 | Tene, well, it runs windows fine..and it boots to linux..to console.... |
| 00:17.49 | bonez39 | tene BUT, my dilemma is with the wireless nic....in form of AWD154 PCI card.... |
| 00:18.03 | Tene | Does it have wired access? |
| 00:18.34 | bonez39 | I don't have drivers....nothing is seen during debian's installation routine...yeah, I can get wired access to it..though I am not sure if wired will recognize the realtek onboard LAN hardware either..... |
| 00:18.57 | Tene | I haven't seen wired cards without drivers in a really long time. |
| 00:19.08 | Tene | If you're online tonight I'll help you work on that wireless card. |
| 00:19.36 | Tene | I feel like I need to work on my karma for some reason. :) |
| 00:19.37 | nick125_lappy | Eek, it seems like you are going to have *fun* with that wireless card |
| 00:20.00 | nick125_lappy | ndiswrapper |
| 00:22.30 | bonez39 | I need to run CAT 5 to it .. maybe that will be the trick |
| 00:22.52 | bonez39 | Tene, the mboard has the lan h/w on it...I'll give that a try |
| 00:23.05 | bonez39 | Tene, ok, I'll log on later...to see if you are around |
| 00:23.41 | bonez39 | ndiswrapper...I have run into that..but I still don't quite understand how it's supposed to work...I find references to my card with ndisw... showing that it should work.. |
| 00:23.43 | bonez39 | gotta run |
| 00:24.35 | nick125_lappy | I'd be willing to help as well |
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| 00:37.12 | vontrapp | -lart mirrors.xmission.com |
| 00:37.24 | vontrapp | ~cookie brac |
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| 00:44.42 | redbeard1 | who all is coming to plug tonight? |
| 00:44.54 | goozbach | I would but I've got this thing |
| 00:45.03 | redbeard1 | ~migs goozbach |
| 00:45.07 | ibot | ACTION forces goozbach to learn perl from ^Migs^ |
| 00:45.26 | goozbach | cool! |
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| 00:49.01 | redbeard1 | goozbach: you get no chocolate lime cake |
| 00:49.09 | goozbach | smap |
| 00:49.25 | levi | I would go, but I have class. |
| 00:49.53 | redbeard1 | levi: so you're saying that the only reason i'm going is that i have no class? |
| 00:50.22 | levi | If the shoe fits... ;) |
| 00:50.33 | levi | But I really meant 'I have to go to class' |
| 00:50.44 | redbeard1 | levi: no chocolate lime cake for you either |
| 00:51.10 | levi | That makes me sad, but there's nothing to do about it. |
| 00:51.44 | redbeard1 | well, i may or may not get around to posting the recipes on my blog in the near future |
| 00:52.19 | redbeard1 | then you can make a chocolate lime cake |
| 00:52.28 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
| 00:52.35 | redbeard1 | elg: none for you either |
| 00:52.59 | elg | redbeard1: I want to see a recipe for durian ice cream soon |
| 00:53.26 | elg | and photographic evidence that you ate it |
| 00:53.28 | redbeard1 | durian? no way man. i've never tasted a durian that i've liked. |
| 00:54.03 | elg | great, within a week |
| 00:54.06 | redbeard1 | d'oh! |
| 00:54.18 | elg | vontrapp can tell you |
| 00:54.52 | Tene | vontrapp: what is a durian? |
| 00:55.43 | goozbach | man in hot pants! |
| 00:55.49 | goozbach | struts stuff |
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| 00:57.36 | elg | i think dynamic programming has to be the least attractive alogorithm ever invented |
| 00:58.20 | elg | why is it so ugly? |
| 00:58.20 | elg | it solves some important problems. so why does it seem so inelegant? |
| 01:02.41 | levi | Man, I haven't looked at dynamic programming since my algorithms class. |
| 01:02.48 | stuporglue | I'm making a disk image from one USB disk and writing it to another USB disk, using dd. Will it be faster to gzip the image (since not as much has to be written to disk), or to just write it to disk? The partition is a 20Gb partition, and empty space has already been zeroed. |
| 01:03.41 | stuporglue | About 17 Gigs are empty space. |
| 01:04.12 | Tene | stuporglue: are you going straight across, or to local disc first and then out again? |
| 01:06.13 | stuporglue | Tene: I'm just creating an image file right now. I'll be putting that image on to other disks at a later date. |
| 01:07.01 | levi | elg: I believe it looks more elegant if you can make your language memoize things automatically for you. |
| 01:09.58 | Tene | in perl6 you'll be able to do that with an "is cached" method attribute, I believe. |
| 01:15.21 | levi | Nice, but it hardly counteracts the fact that everything looks ugly in perl. ;) |
| 01:15.55 | Tene | Heh. |
| 01:17.16 | levi | If you want to make an algorithm look simple, elegant, and attractive, you write it in Haskell, not perl. And no, pugs doesn't count. :) |
| 01:17.34 | Tene | Aww... |
| 01:44.50 | redbeard1 | ~dog jayce |
| 01:44.53 | ibot | ACTION stares at jayce until jayce whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 01:48.59 | goozbach | punkbuster! |
| 01:49.34 | redbeard1 | goozbach! |
| 01:49.52 | redbeard1 | man, i saw punky brewster at best buy the other day |
| 01:50.32 | redbeard1 | now there's old memories |
| 01:50.59 | goozbach | oooh boy |
| 01:52.21 | redbeard1 | i remember my older sister tying a bandana around her knee because punky brewster did it |
| 01:53.43 | redbeard1 | of course i also remember the popular desire to be gagged with certain flatware |
| 01:54.19 | redbeard1 | in retrospect, i suppose being gagged with a spoon would be much less painful than being gagged with a spork |
| 01:55.07 | Sargun | Sounds painful. |
| 01:55.17 | redbeard1 | yeah |
| 01:55.24 | redbeard1 | i'm sure it would have been |
| 01:55.44 | redbeard1 | i wonder how many people took up that offer, to actually gag somebody with a spoon? |
| 01:56.35 | redbeard1 | ~gag goozbach |
| 01:56.36 | ibot | ACTION takes away the voice of goozbach and, as an additional precaution, sews goozbach's mouth shut permanently... |
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| 01:58.11 | redbeard1 | hey Sargun |
| 01:58.20 | redbeard1 | how was your date the other night? |
| 01:59.35 | redbeard1 | herlo1: you're not single, are you? |
| 01:59.35 | herlo1 | 2 bad he hangs out in #utah too much |
| 01:59.59 | herlo1 | redbeard1: yup |
| 02:00.31 | Sargun | It went well. |
| 02:00.42 | redbeard1 | Sargun: what did you make? |
| 02:00.48 | herlo1 | good 4 sargun |
| 02:00.57 | redbeard1 | herlo1: if you ever want me to hook you up with somebody, let me know |
| 02:01.09 | Sargun | I made a caesar salad, quiche, and a soup. |
| 02:01.21 | Sargun | it was a lunner mealish |
| 02:01.27 | Sargun | she couldn't come for dinner. |
| 02:01.31 | redbeard1 | herlo1: i have a single friend that's a java programmer |
| 02:01.40 | herlo1 | yeah? |
| 02:01.41 | redbeard1 | Sargun: what kind of soup? |
| 02:01.47 | redbeard1 | herlo1: yeah |
| 02:01.47 | Sargun | brb |
| 02:01.59 | redbeard1 | herlo1: she lives in sandy. where are you at? |
| 02:02.25 | herlo1 | springville but moving up 2 murray in the spring |
| 02:02.38 | redbeard1 | hey cool |
| 02:03.34 | redbeard1 | herlo1: you going to plug tonight? |
| 02:03.56 | herlo1 | yea |
| 02:03.56 | herlo1 | h |
| 02:04.09 | redbeard1 | well, i'm headed there right now, so i'll see you there |
| 02:04.10 | herlo1 | on my treo, leaving btfl now |
| 02:04.29 | herlo1 | 45mins 4 me |
| 02:04.38 | redbeard1 | down the hall for me |
| 02:04.47 | redbeard1 | i'll see you in a bit |
| 02:04.56 | herlo1 | yup |
| 02:04.59 | herlo1 | cya |
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| 02:41.14 | decriptor | hey is it too late to come to the plug meeting |
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| 02:41.41 | brandon | any mysql guru's around? |
| 02:42.01 | decriptor | not a guru, but what's your question |
| 02:42.35 | Sargun | Not really |
| 02:42.39 | Sargun | What's your question? |
| 02:55.06 | brandon | sorry, ran off for a bit.. |
| 02:55.43 | brandon | basically I have about 300 rows of data that I need to duplicate and change one column value to another value. |
| 02:57.25 | brandon | basically something like select where x=value1 and duplicate the entry except now make x=value2 |
| 03:00.51 | Sargun | uh |
| 03:00.51 | Sargun | copy the table |
| 03:00.52 | Sargun | Thats easy enough |
| 03:00.54 | Sargun | you know how to do that |
| 03:00.54 | Sargun | right? |
| 03:01.33 | brandon | can't copy, |
| 03:01.51 | Sargun | eh? |
| 03:01.55 | brandon | there's about 2000 entries in table and I only need to copy the entries 'value1' but change value1 to value2 |
| 03:02.17 | Sargun | ah |
| 03:02.19 | Sargun | so like: |
| 03:03.34 | Sargun | before: |
| 03:03.34 | Sargun | r1 | r2 | r3 |
| 03:03.34 | Sargun | ------------ |
| 03:03.34 | Sargun | x1 | x2 | x3 |
| 03:03.35 | Sargun | m1 | v1 | m3 |
| 03:03.35 | Sargun | after: |
| 03:03.41 | Sargun | r1 | r2 | r3 |
| 03:03.41 | Sargun | ------------ |
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| 03:03.43 | Sargun | x1 | x2 | x3 |
| 03:03.45 | Sargun | m1 | v2 | m3 |
| 03:03.54 | Sargun | hey fiber man! |
| 03:03.54 | lukfugl | anyone in here at the plug meeting? |
| 03:04.09 | brandon | exactly |
| 03:04.15 | lukfugl | vontrapp is standing out in the cold and needs to be let in |
| 03:04.38 | Sargun | :-( |
| 03:04.53 | brandon | not there tonight.. |
| 03:05.00 | Sargun | so UPDATE all where r2 = "v1" to r2= "v2" |
| 03:05.23 | Sargun | right? |
| 03:05.49 | brandon | close, except I need to leave all the v1's in place |
| 03:05.50 | brandon | so like |
| 03:05.57 | brandon | before |
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| 03:06.01 | brandon | r1 | r2 | r3 |
| 03:06.10 | brandon | x1 | x2 | x3 |
| 03:06.12 | brandon | after |
| 03:06.17 | brandon | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.21 | brandon | x1 | x2 | x3 |
| 03:06.25 | brandon | x1 | y2 | x3 |
| 03:06.51 | brandon | (should have included the m's in both cases) |
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| 03:10.05 | Sargun | um |
| 03:10.09 | Sargun | mind using a bit of python? |
| 03:10.24 | brandon | nope |
| 03:10.35 | brandon | isn't there a select insert that can be done? |
| 03:10.37 | Sargun | um |
| 03:10.45 | Sargun | you mean insert select? |
| 03:10.47 | brandon | or I just dump the db and do a :1,$s/x/y |
| 03:10.52 | brandon | right |
| 03:11.10 | Sargun | do you have phpmyadmin running |
| 03:12.30 | brandon | Not on the box no |
| 03:12.38 | Sargun | h |
| 03:12.40 | Sargun | hm |
| 03:12.42 | brandon | if it's that tough I'll just dump and use vi then add again |
| 03:12.53 | Sargun | I know there is a way |
| 03:12.55 | Sargun | to do this |
| 03:13.20 | brandon | I know there is, I couldn't figure it out or find anything ont he web |
| 03:14.04 | Sargun | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/insert-select.html |
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| 03:50.37 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 03:53.52 | Tene | Anyone have a phone number for herlo or Jayce? |
| 03:54.29 | elg | you can reach jayce' phone by aim |
| 03:54.39 | elg | perlriffic |
| 03:55.21 | Sargun | ~seen findlay |
| 03:55.40 | ibot | findlay is currently on #utah (12h 13m 50s). Has said a total of 39 messages. Is idling for 3h 52m 26s, last said: 'goozbach: nothing, actually'. |
| 03:55.59 | Tene | elg: explain |
| 03:56.40 | Tene | anyone here at the plug meeting right now? |
| 03:56.55 | Sargun | vontrapp |
| 03:58.26 | jsmith | Tene: I've got herlo's number if you still want it. |
| 03:58.38 | elg | his phone has AIM capability |
| 03:58.38 | Tene | jsmith: yes |
| 03:58.40 | elg | and it's online |
| 03:59.08 | elg | think mutant thumb texting |
| 03:59.15 | Tene | jsmith: /msg ? |
| 03:59.43 | jsmith | Tene: Yes, I /msg'd it to you |
| 04:00.39 | Tene | jsmith: thanks. |
| 04:00.45 | jsmith | No problem |
| 04:00.56 | Tene | mlmorgan is outside the building where plug/utos meetings take place and needs to be let in. |
| 04:01.23 | Sargun | :-( |
| 04:46.47 | elg | wow, nifty |
| 04:46.48 | elg | http://skyvector.com/ |
| 04:48.28 | Sargun | you fly? |
| 04:48.35 | elg | i flight sim for now |
| 04:48.38 | elg | until I can afford to fly |
| 04:48.52 | Sargun | ah |
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| 04:55.33 | Sargun | uh |
| 04:55.33 | Sargun | Free cake? |
| 04:55.44 | Sargun | jlp_work, hiya |
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| 08:54.53 | dilvie | hi |
| 09:09.05 | Sargun | hey |
| 09:09.07 | Sargun | who here is alive? |
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| 15:19.25 | goozbach | I really like bzr |
| 15:19.33 | goozbach | just thought I'd lay that out there |
| 15:27.53 | elg | i can't believe you said that about tla |
| 15:30.14 | goozbach | said what about tla? |
| 15:30.22 | goozbach | I really LIKED tla |
| 15:30.35 | goozbach | and I really liked baz |
| 15:30.50 | goozbach | but I (present tense) like bzr |
| 15:31.16 | goozbach | someday... I'll write a piece of software which will be revolutionary |
| 15:31.17 | redbeard1 | i still want an iphone, but i would settle for this: http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motorizrz6/ |
| 15:31.30 | goozbach | and then I'll be an expert on everthing |
| 15:32.11 | redbeard1 | sorry gooz, i didn't mean to interrupt |
| 15:39.09 | redbeard1 | ~lart goozbach |
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| 15:41.02 | tensai | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 15:41.19 | redbeard1 | tensai! |
| 15:41.29 | tensai | redbeard1! |
| 15:41.42 | redbeard1 | long time no see! |
| 15:42.02 | goozbach | http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l214/Ymdar/Motivator/webmunchkin.jpg |
| 15:42.49 | redbeard1 | oh man |
| 15:42.52 | redbeard1 | that's awesome! |
| 15:46.39 | ^Migs^ | that's hilarious |
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| 15:55.37 | elg | I wonder if he called his lawyer |
| 15:56.05 | ^Migs^ | he should send him a bill for bandwidth consumption |
| 15:57.23 | ^Migs^ | that would be lololoololol |
| 15:58.50 | ^Migs^ | wtf I have an infinite loop somewhere in my code, and I can't figure out where |
| 15:59.56 | elg | it's the part that repeats over and over |
| 16:01.02 | goozbach | heh |
| 16:01.54 | goozbach | ^Migs^: try removing the line: while true; do echo "hello"; done |
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| 16:05.03 | ^Migs^ | this is why it helps to draw out a pageflow first |
| 16:05.13 | ^Migs^ | s/pageflow/flowchart/ |
| 16:07.00 | ^Migs^ | s/flowchart/schematic/ |
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| 16:45.30 | maquis | atoponce: i'm around now |
| 16:47.24 | levi | Hi maquis! |
| 17:02.40 | ^Migs^ | http://www.thesuperheroquiz.com/villain/ |
| 17:09.30 | dataw0lf | mmm Dr. Doom. |
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| 17:15.46 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, I Dr. Doom too, Superman on the heroes quiz |
| 17:21.18 | ^Migs^ | I got Dr. Doom as a villain, and a 100% combination of Spiderman, Superman, and Green Lantern |
| 17:21.45 | jsmith | The Tick! |
| 17:21.50 | dataw0lf | I'm the Flash |
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| 17:41.21 | ^Migs^ | how do I find the pid if I need to kill a process? |
| 17:42.17 | graphyx | ps aux? |
| 17:43.20 | dataw0lf | pgrep |
| 17:44.55 | Supaplex | killall! |
| 17:45.24 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 17:45.26 | ^Migs^ | that was easy |
| 17:45.26 | ^Migs^ | thanks |
| 17:46.03 | Supaplex | sudo kill 1 |
| 17:46.27 | Supaplex | kidding on that one :) |
| 17:47.16 | ^Migs^ | lolololololol*snort* |
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| 17:58.03 | levi | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070111-8596.html |
| 17:58.27 | levi | A bill to prevent the FCC from doing brain-dead things like mandating the broadcast flag. |
| 17:59.40 | levi | http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses.php |
| 17:59.44 | levi | Berkeley webcast courses. |
| 17:59.46 | levi | Cool! |
| 18:02.32 | levi | One of them is a course called 'Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs', which uses the textbook of the same name, which is one of the best computer science books ever. |
| 18:03.40 | redbeard1 | they have an introduction to non-violence |
| 18:05.14 | levi | That sounds pretty kick-a**! ;) |
| 18:16.52 | ^Migs^ | ah wtf, it's in RealPlayer format? |
| 18:18.11 | levi | Alas, apparently so. |
| 18:19.16 | ^Migs^ | InfoSys 296A-2 / Law276.8 Open Source Development and Distribution of Digital Information: Technical, Economic, Social, and Legal Perspectives |
| 18:19.18 | ^Migs^ | sweet |
| 18:20.30 | ^Migs^ | oo, Buddhist Psychology |
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| 18:27.13 | scothoser | Howdy everyone! |
| 18:27.20 | findlay | ~howdy scothoser |
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| 18:30.09 | atoponce | who's using irssi here? |
| 18:30.57 | findlay | me! |
| 18:31.27 | atoponce | findlay: using a theme other than the default? i'm getting a little tired of madcow, and looking for something new |
| 18:34.55 | findlay | atoponce: not yet, but theme modding is on my list |
| 18:35.10 | findlay | not much to do to theme a console app though |
| 18:35.20 | findlay | change a few colors and strings |
| 18:35.42 | atoponce | well, no, but enough to create a new feeling with the application |
| 18:35.46 | atoponce | text formatting |
| 18:35.48 | findlay | heh |
| 18:39.22 | findlay | I'm all after utility and space conservation |
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| 18:39.41 | findlay | so I can have enough space for the worthy #utah dialog |
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| 18:41.50 | atoponce | yes. i am looking for space conservation as well |
| 18:43.18 | sjansen | ~compress atoponce |
| 18:44.37 | atoponce | ok. time to go back to split screens |
| 18:45.28 | findlay | ~split sjansen |
| 18:45.47 | atoponce | local channels on top, ubuntu channels beneath |
| 18:45.51 | atoponce | yeah. that'll work |
| 18:47.49 | ^Migs^ | we're doing something similar to those Berkeley podcasts in the Weber School District |
| 18:47.53 | ^Migs^ | still in the planning stages, though |
| 18:48.16 | findlay | then we can all enjoy great lectures from ^Migs^? |
| 18:49.12 | sjansen | http://www.gotoquiz.com/results/what_american_accent_do_you_have |
| 18:49.24 | ^Migs^ | no, fortunately I don't teach |
| 18:50.19 | ^Migs^ | huh? |
| 18:50.26 | ^Migs^ | I didn't take the quiz, and it tells me I'm from the northeast |
| 18:51.22 | ^Migs^ | oh, it's http://www.gotoquiz.com/what_american_accent_do_you_have |
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| 18:57.34 | Jayce^ | heh, on one of the other tests (pretty poor) I got... "Your 85% smarter than Jerry Springer Guests!!" <-- and they are judging how smart somebody is? |
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| 19:18.11 | sjansen | Help! Help! I'm being productive! |
| 19:18.35 | sjansen | Now we see the violence inherent in the system. Come see the violence inherent in the system! |
| 19:18.47 | [phoenyx] | quick, post more to irc, that'll stop it |
| 19:18.55 | levi | sjansen: Write a program in Scala! That'll fix that problem. ;) |
| 19:18.58 | goozbach | note to self: for your professional forum software, don't use phpbb |
| 19:22.24 | goozbach | http://support.red-fone.com/forum/memberlist.php |
| 19:22.46 | goozbach | or http://support.red-fone.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2 |
| 19:22.51 | goozbach | WARNING language |
| 19:22.56 | goozbach | and don't follow the links |
| 19:23.02 | findlay | ~warn language |
| 19:26.08 | graphyx | goozbach: Is that your site? |
| 19:28.45 | goozbach | nope |
| 19:28.53 | goozbach | its for redfone |
| 19:29.08 | goozbach | a company that makes telephony hardware |
| 19:29.09 | graphyx | yeah, they have an issue |
| 19:48.23 | jsmith | goozbach: That's not the only issue they have ;-) |
| 19:48.59 | [phoenyx] | so, supposedly there is a mountainwest ruby conference in salt lake in March |
| 19:49.07 | [phoenyx] | do anyone know more about it? |
| 19:53.47 | goozbach | jsmith: what do you suggest it it's place? |
| 19:54.11 | jsmith | goozbach: Personally, I like a T1 failover switch, but they're not cheap. |
| 19:54.27 | goozbach | ohh I've got money! |
| 19:54.33 | goozbach | point me in the right direction |
| 19:54.38 | jsmith | goozbach: If you're using TDMoE, you really have to understand the ramifications of having Ethernet frams going across the wire every millisecond |
| 19:54.55 | goozbach | isolated switch then? |
| 19:55.04 | jsmith | goozbach: Yeah |
| 19:55.10 | goozbach | good to know |
| 19:55.14 | jsmith | goozbach: One that isn't gonna hiccup |
| 19:55.34 | goozbach | it's probally gonna knock out my vmware traffic as it is then |
| 19:55.51 | goozbach | instruct me oh jsmith |
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| 19:56.47 | jsmith | goozbach: Since they're just Ethernet frames (they're not IP), there's no reason to put them on the same switch as your IP traffic. |
| 19:57.10 | jsmith | goozbach: Personally, I'd put two NICs in the Asterisk server -- one for IP traffic, and one for TMDoE traffic. |
| 19:57.22 | jsmith | goozbach: Then use a seperate switch for the TDMoE stuff. |
| 19:57.29 | jsmith | goozbach: Make sense? |
| 19:58.24 | goozbach | yup |
| 19:58.32 | goozbach | I follow |
| 19:58.41 | jsmith | Or, you could use a good T1 failover switch and have T1 cards in redundant Asterisk servers. This allows you (with some media converters and some fiber) to put the Asterisk boxes in different locations. |
| 19:59.10 | goozbach | where can one find a "good T1 failover switch"? |
| 19:59.34 | goozbach | we've got money and fiber and resources galore avalible for this project |
| 20:03.45 | jsmith | goozbach: Unfortunately, my notes with the model numbers are in a box buried in a storage unit :-( |
| 20:03.53 | jsmith | goozbach: Let me see if I can track them down for you. |
| 20:05.11 | findlay | cool firefox trick: <ctrl><shift><tab> willsuccessively open up the last page visited and closed in your history |
| 20:25.41 | macnewbold | hm, that firefox trick doesn't work for me. but I'm not on 2.0 or whatever yet. |
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| 20:32.58 | redbeard1 | ~lart harleypig |
| 20:33.52 | goozbach | redbeard1: http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/professional_chefs_kitchen.htm |
| 20:34.02 | goozbach | that entire site is pretty coll |
| 20:34.06 | goozbach | s/coll/cool/ |
| 20:34.31 | redbeard1 | that site looks familiar... have you posted something from it before? |
| 20:35.42 | goozbach | not sure |
| 20:35.48 | goozbach | just saw it on dugg |
| 20:35.50 | goozbach | er digg |
| 20:36.01 | redbeard1 | that looks like a good article |
| 20:36.19 | redbeard1 | i like its explanations as to why chefs are high-strung |
| 21:02.51 | ^Migs^ | dagg |
| 21:03.37 | findlay | degg |
| 21:04.04 | findlay | that's a Web2.0 egg |
| 21:20.49 | sjansen | ~hurt tensai's head |
| 21:20.52 | ibot | ACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on tensai's head's hands, laughing all the while |
| 21:22.22 | Supaplex | but now do it again to music :) |
| 21:23.50 | tristanbob | what do people use for Project Management software (as opposed to Microsoft Project)? |
| 21:25.38 | sjansen | Project Management is for suits. I hack on code until I don't feel like hacking anymore and then I say I'm done. |
| 21:26.21 | sjansen | If anyone asks, I tell them the got what they asked for. If they argue, I ask to see the project requirements. There are none, so I win. |
| 21:27.43 | sjansen | (If you find a good F/OSS Project Management solution, let me know. I've never seen one. Not surprising since I've never seen a good proprietary one either. Too much emphasis on dashboards and document management. Not enough on getting work done.) |
| 21:27.48 | harleypig | delete @$self{ @fields } |
| 21:27.58 | harleypig | woops ... din't mean to send it to #utah |
| 21:28.28 | findlay | aha! Now I know your secret code! |
| 21:28.42 | harleypig | But, now that it's here. |
| 21:29.00 | harleypig | I found a piece of code that was doing map { delete $self->{ $_ } } @fields |
| 21:29.11 | harleypig | That can be shortened to the above line noise. |
| 21:29.25 | harleypig | Not findlay's |
| 21:30.10 | findlay | how does the @$self{ @fields } statement work? |
| 21:30.43 | findlay | you're deleting all of the elements of the @$self array contained in @fields? |
| 21:30.51 | harleypig | $self is a reference to a hash. @$self acts as a slice (like with %s -> @s{ ... }) |
| 21:30.59 | harleypig | right |
| 21:31.07 | findlay | oh, I don't know anything about slices, yet |
| 21:31.41 | harleypig | They are simple, like recursion, once you understand them you don't understand why you had a hard time understanding t hem. |
| 21:31.46 | harleypig | Or maybe that was just me. |
| 21:32.23 | findlay | or like differential equations |
| 21:32.38 | findlay | and the limit operator |
| 21:35.29 | goozbach | or this conversation. |
| 21:39.29 | goozbach | jsmith: you were right, gobs of packets |
| 21:40.29 | ^Migs^ | gobs? |
| 21:41.12 | findlay | gobs |
| 21:43.07 | goozbach | ~convert 1 gob to smidgen |
| 21:43.28 | jsmith | goozbach: Packets, or frames? :-p |
| 21:43.48 | goozbach | frames |
| 21:43.58 | goozbach | frames galore |
| 21:44.19 | findlay | ~convert 1 galores to gobs |
| 21:44.25 | jsmith | Like I said... frames every millisecond, so make sure your infrastructure can handle it. |
| 21:44.33 | goozbach | fonuator is a dameon |
| 21:44.38 | goozbach | didn't see that comming |
| 21:44.45 | sjansen | Cool, Splinter Cell: Double Agent just arrived. |
| 21:45.07 | goozbach | sjansen: haven't played it yet? |
| 21:45.08 | jsmith | goozback: Nobody expects a Spanish inquisition |
| 21:45.35 | sjansen | Not yet. Too cheap to buy new games. |
| 21:45.36 | goozbach | I guess it all comes down to how the segment is secured |
| 21:45.44 | goozbach | el cheapo |
| 21:46.09 | sjansen | And proud of it. |
| 21:46.11 | atoponce | so, i'm taking it that definitions may need to be covered as well? ;) |
| 21:46.20 | atoponce | bah. wrong channel |
| 21:46.22 | sjansen | Sou Pao Duro. |
| 21:46.31 | atoponce | and the fun with split screens begins... |
| 21:46.45 | sjansen | ~channel atoponce |
| 21:47.05 | Jayce^ | heh... hard bread.. |
| 21:47.54 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.22 | Jayce^ | fitting |
| 21:48.35 | goozbach | potato rolls for me |
| 21:48.46 | goozbach | I've eaten a half doz since lunch |
| 21:49.15 | goozbach | I've only had one mt dew today! |
| 21:49.17 | Jayce^ | goozbach, nothing like a costco rotisserie chicken, and a bag of potato rolls.. |
| 21:49.25 | goozbach | that's got to be a record |
| 21:49.48 | goozbach | Jayce^: I went with a bunch of publix chicken tenders and potato rolls |
| 21:52.48 | sjansen | dry white toast, 4 fried chickens, and a coke |
| 21:54.05 | harleypig | I got some iiiice cream ... I got some iiiice cream |
| 21:54.59 | sjansen | It's a hundred an' six miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank o' gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. |
| 21:55.21 | graphyx | hit it? |
| 21:55.33 | graphyx | is that the next line? |
| 21:56.32 | harleypig | One Timex digital watch, broken. One unused prophylactic. One soiled. |
| 21:57.32 | harleypig | Your women. I want to buy your women. The little girl, your daughters... sell them to me. Sell me your children. |
| 21:59.24 | harleypig | We're on a mission from God. |
| 22:00.20 | harleypig | Use of unnecessary violence in the apprehension of the Blues Brothers HAS been approved. |
| 22:00.34 | sjansen | graphyx: yes |
| 22:00.54 | sjansen | harleypig: Don't you blaspheme in here! Don't you BLASPHEME in here! |
| 22:04.39 | harleypig | My son freaked when he saw her floating back into the room. |
| 22:04.57 | harleypig | Then the door slammed and he gave a little scream and buried his head in the cushion. |
| 22:05.08 | harleypig | Funniest thing I'd seen in quite a while. |
| 22:07.14 | sjansen | heh |
| 22:11.24 | harleypig | During filming, John Belushi apparently got drunk, went to a stranger's house, asked if he could have a glass of milk and a sandwich and then crashed on their couch for a couple of hours before the cast and crew found him. |
| 22:11.52 | goozbach | hah! |
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| 22:20.54 | goozbach | it held the world record for most cars destroyed during production |
| 22:21.06 | goozbach | only to be surpassed by it's sequel |
| 22:22.03 | findlay | and they complain about people ripping it and sending it across the interweb |
| 22:22.51 | findlay | any movie that is so destructive ought to be counteracted |
| 22:24.17 | ^Migs^ | what movie is that? |
| 22:24.31 | ^Migs^ | oh, Blues Brothers? |
| 22:24.35 | findlay | I don't know |
| 22:28.19 | findlay | ~destroy cars |
| 22:28.23 | ibot | no |
| 22:28.38 | findlay | fine |
| 22:28.39 | ^Migs^ | wha huh? |
| 22:28.47 | findlay | ~wha huh |
| 22:29.51 | graphyx | ^Migs^: yeah, blues brothers |
| 22:30.51 | sjansen | The sequel is an abomination. |
| 22:31.00 | sjansen | I prefer to pretend it never happened. |
| 22:34.31 | dataw0lf | yea, it's better if you just ignore it. |
| 22:34.53 | ^Migs^ | I've never even seen the movie(s) |
| 22:35.00 | ^Migs^ | looks kind of dumb |
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| 22:36.35 | dataw0lf | The Blues Brothers (the original) is one of the great comedic masterpieces of our time. |
| 22:36.59 | bonez43 | Tene got a minute? I am at my amd 64 box...I was too tired last night to log back on |
| 22:37.37 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Yeah, but you must admit the sequel was so bad as to ruin the series... |
| 22:38.05 | dataw0lf | no, no, I hold on to the belief that it was created in an alternate universe and through some quantum technology was transported here |
| 22:39.13 | goozbach | dataw0lf: of YOUR time perhaps |
| 22:39.17 | sjansen | jsmith: No. The first is proof that the second was actually produced by evil clones and/or mind controlling Vogons. |
| 22:40.03 | dataw0lf | goozbach: What is that s'posed to mean? |
| 22:40.16 | goozbach | the greatest comedic masterpiece of my time is Airborne |
| 22:40.17 | jsmith | sjansen: All I know is that the sequel was so bad as to scar me for life |
| 22:40.35 | jsmith | goozbach: Not "Hot Shots: Part Deux"? |
| 22:40.38 | sjansen | jsmith: That's why repressed memories were invented. |
| 22:40.54 | goozbach | it's a comedy-drama |
| 22:40.59 | goozbach | that's what it's billed as |
| 22:41.04 | sjansen | goozbach: dataw0lf called it "one of" not "the" |
| 22:41.09 | goozbach | ok then |
| 22:41.10 | Tene | bonez43: I think I have a minute, sure. |
| 22:41.15 | goozbach | I retract my statement |
| 22:41.25 | dataw0lf | up there with Animal House, and Happy Gilmore |
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| 22:42.10 | sjansen | The Wizard of Speed and Time |
| 22:42.53 | bonez43 | Tene ok...I am just reading about ndiswrapper.... |
| 22:42.54 | dataw0lf | The Adventures of Baron Munchausen |
| 22:43.00 | goozbach | http://blog.wired.com/wiredphotos21/2007/01/probably_our_fa.html |
| 22:43.57 | bonez43 | I downloaded ndiswrapper to my shared linux/win drive...but after mounting and attempting to untar it ... I can't.. all I have is the businesscard sarge cd....so it's lacking in some tools.....I guess I need to burn the 100+ mb sarge 64 disc...with more tools... |
| 22:44.40 | dataw0lf | bonez43: 'shared' as in, separate partitions? |
| 22:44.57 | Tene | bonez43: the easiest solution, from a software standpoint, is to get a cat5 cable in there and run on ethernet until you get the wireless up. |
| 22:47.01 | bonez43 | ok...tonight..that's my project then |
| 22:47.22 | bonez43 | later |
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| 23:13.17 | bonez39 | Tene, another question....I am at work now.... |
| 23:14.04 | bonez39 | I am curious if there are any good linux or windows software based KVM tools? I'll likely get a hardware switch in next few days, but curious about soft |
| 23:17.02 | levi | You mean like VNC? |
| 23:27.23 | bonez39 | levi, perhaps..I should just get the hardware switch and be done with it... no worry |
| 23:27.53 | levi | Software forwarding of video screens tends to be pretty slow. |
| 23:29.12 | Tene | It depends on what you're wanting to do with the box. If it's just occasional maintainence and such, then VNC or NX would be okay. |
| 23:29.51 | bonez39 | I have a nice big newer screen.....and older smaller one on windows box...I'd like to be able to have full control over both machines, but I am only one person...so switching .. with a kvm should be fine.....since I can only be at one machine at a time |
| 23:40.35 | Tene | bonez39: something you can do is start a second X server on the one box and then run Gnome or something on the other box and have it connect to X on the first box. |
| 23:40.57 | Tene | There will probably be enough lag that you can barely notice it. Maybe less, though. |
| 23:43.34 | Tene | bonez39: where are you located, btw? My sister wants to see a chiropractor. |
| 23:47.01 | findlay | herlo: ping |
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| 23:50.31 | sjansen | Perl question: So I'd like do "use constant FOO => 'stuff';" and then embed FOO in several strings. What's the right way to do that? |
| 23:51.09 | sjansen | I'm hoping for something like "FOO is #{FOO}" |
| 23:54.50 | findlay | Tene: you've seen one, you've seen them all |
| 23:55.46 | Tene | Heh. |
| 23:56.50 | findlay | rsimpkins: on the plug site company list the FOSS value cells redundantly repeat 'value' |
