| 00:00.31 | levi | Who'd want to service such a backwards place as Utah County anyway? ;) |
| 00:01.07 | findlay | yeah |
| 00:01.17 | mrpull | we are backward folks |
| 00:02.35 | findlay | I think people in Utah County are actually too forward |
| 00:02.40 | findlay | especially the girls |
| 00:02.48 | findlay | they always want you to marry them |
| 00:03.01 | findlay | silly little underclasswomen |
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| 00:05.37 | levi | findlay: I'm guessing you don't actually have this problem. |
| 00:17.44 | findlay | levi: fortunately not to the degree that I hyperbole |
| 00:19.20 | levi | I certainly didn't have a surfeit of young women wishing to marry me when I lived there. |
| 00:20.08 | findlay | levi: I mean that they are forward to the point of amusement occasionally to the point of annoyance, but that is it |
| 00:21.47 | levi | Forward in what way? |
| 00:22.32 | findlay | forward as in not backward |
| 00:24.05 | levi | I knew plenty of backward girls at BYU. Maybe the UVSC girls are more forward. |
| 00:24.15 | findlay | probably |
| 00:36.07 | levi | Peanut butter sandwiches are much better with toasted wheat bread. |
| 00:36.51 | findlay | mmm |
| 00:37.03 | findlay | you're making me more hungry than I already am |
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| 01:06.35 | tuple | -lart vontrapp |
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| 01:07.53 | tuple | -lart vontrapp |
| 01:08.05 | tuple | I'm baaaaaack |
| 01:08.20 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
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| 01:08.31 | vontrapp | elg: where's the jabber? |
| 01:08.31 | tuple | but dns isn't |
| 01:08.39 | tuple | first I have to unload the car |
| 01:08.53 | vontrapp | why are you tuple? |
| 01:09.02 | vontrapp | and elg |
| 01:09.11 | vontrapp | most of us only need one name |
| 01:18.46 | findlay | levi: you're always welcome to any girls from my retinue if you wish |
| 01:19.04 | levi | Well, thanks, but I'm already married. |
| 01:20.03 | findlay | oh, ok |
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| 01:29.37 | dna3e8_ | hay |
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| 01:31.47 | findlay | ~hay |
| 01:31.48 | ibot | hmm... hay is what is what troy will roll in (zee of), and also what horses eat |
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| 01:55.22 | synic | anyone using fedora core 6? |
| 01:57.01 | dna3e8 | i am |
| 01:59.38 | synic | dna3e8: can you search to see if exaile is in the repos? |
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| 02:53.49 | tuple | tensai: ou alive? |
| 03:11.48 | tensai | elg: oi |
| 03:24.14 | findlay | oa |
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| 03:34.18 | goozbach | YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!ELEVENTEEEN |
| 03:34.32 | goozbach | so I'm on the nerdcore rising trailer |
| 03:34.34 | goozbach | TWICE |
| 03:34.42 | goozbach | front page of penny arcade |
| 03:35.01 | goozbach | freaking awesome |
| 03:36.11 | findlay | nerdcore? |
| 03:39.22 | goozbach | http://www.frontalot.com |
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| 04:03.05 | findlay | wow I know somebody in a movie |
| 04:06.06 | findlay | someday I'll be in a movie too |
| 04:07.37 | elg | tensai: everydns is not updating |
| 04:07.54 | elg | so my DNS won't update. could I bother you to put my info in /etc/hosts or whatever might help to get my mail delivered? |
| 04:08.47 | elg | 216.31.27.106 falcon.fugal.net mail.fugal.net fugal.net |
| 04:19.47 | tensai | elg: yes |
| 04:23.22 | tensai | elg: bad news though. seems my retry config didn't work like I thought. messages started timing out after 4 days. |
| 04:23.34 | tensai | elg: I don't quite know why. they should have lasted for 14 days |
| 04:29.43 | tensai | elg: ok, mail is going through now |
| 04:29.50 | elg | tensai: brilliant. thanks |
| 04:35.34 | tensai | elg: let me know when you get dns fixed |
| 04:35.49 | spr | goozbach: you've even a speaking part |
| 04:36.26 | goozbach | yeah! |
| 04:36.28 | goozbach | cool no? |
| 04:38.07 | spr | yeah, that's sweet |
| 04:38.29 | spr | You've got more lines than the penny arcade guys |
| 04:43.25 | dna3e8 | synic: yes exalle is in the repos (I went to ad remove programs and searched for it, it is there) |
| 04:43.36 | synic | awesome :) |
| 04:43.48 | synic | that totally rocks. |
| 04:44.22 | dna3e8 | VLC is also easily added |
| 04:44.54 | dna3e8 | Any one hosting using dynamic dns |
| 04:45.56 | synic | I use everydns |
| 04:46.55 | *** topic/#utah by findlay -> Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | Have you dumped a DWARF2 unwinder today? | we are all excited over goozbach's sudden ascent into stardom |
| 04:47.06 | goozbach | yay! |
| 04:47.14 | goozbach | I'm in the topic too! |
| 04:47.20 | goozbach | such a great day! |
| 04:47.28 | *** topic/#utah by findlay -> Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | Have you dumped a DWARF2 unwinder today? | we are all excited over goozbach's sudden ascent into stardom : http://www.frontalot.com |
| 04:47.38 | elg | synic: beware, everydns as secondary (slave) doesn't seem to be working |
| 04:47.47 | elg | I'm switching to xname.org |
| 04:47.58 | elg | if everydns gets its act together I might use both |
| 04:48.02 | synic | I don't seem to have any problems with it (at least today) for exaile.org |
| 04:48.58 | synic | but yeah, I've been using them for about 3 years, and I really haven't had much grief |
| 04:49.08 | elg | they've worked great for me in the past |
| 04:49.13 | synic | relatively high traffic sites |
| 04:49.36 | elg | but over the past month I've tried to modify my master zone file twice and it won't pick up the changes |
| 04:49.50 | elg | supposedly it tries to axfr on the hour, but i see no attempts |
| 04:50.19 | synic | ah, hehe, yeah, I haven't changed anything in 3 years either |
| 04:52.06 | dna3e8 | I am looking at dyndns |
| 04:52.20 | dna3e8 | since I need to register as well |
| 05:08.17 | tensai | I use zoneedit and it has Just Worked(tm) for the past 3 or more years |
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| 05:39.53 | elg | tensai: ok, dns is fixed so it's just a matter of timeouts |
| 05:41.45 | elg | alas, the TTL is 1 week |
| 05:42.00 | elg | but you can certainly flush your own dns if you're doing your own dns server |
| 05:46.59 | tensai | elg: I do have my own resolver, but I'll just let it sit as is for a while. I'm in no particular hurry. |
| 05:48.41 | tensai | elg: my server was down for most of the day |
| 05:48.48 | tensai | it kernel panicked. that's not good. |
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| 14:06.22 | goozbach | pineapple! |
| 14:19.55 | redbeard1 | pinezini! |
| 14:25.07 | atoponce | pinecones |
| 14:26.49 | goozbach | atoponce: it doesn't work that way |
| 14:27.36 | goozbach | I'm a star |
| 14:27.38 | goozbach | YAY! |
| 14:35.52 | dna3e8 | ok |
| 14:41.30 | dna3e8 | mac world :D |
| 15:06.05 | dataw0lf | why, Ohio State? Why do you do this to me? |
| 15:06.21 | dataw0lf | thankfully, I hedged my bet and am now 600 dollars richer. But, still. |
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| 15:22.22 | goozbach | you bet AGAINST Florida?! |
| 15:26.25 | dataw0lf | well, of course I did. Ohio State is the far superior team. They just got arrogant and in their _51_ days of nonplaying, apparently didn't practice. |
| 15:26.42 | dataw0lf | They looked like a high school team out there, they were out of shape and just couldn't keep up. |
| 15:27.13 | dataw0lf | I mean, when you're running options every other play against a team and it's working, something is wrong with that team |
| 15:31.29 | dataw0lf | plus, if you're out of shape, you can't execute a zone defense like Ohio State's |
| 15:39.01 | maquis | are the seahawks still doing well? |
| 15:40.26 | dataw0lf | until they get smacked down by the Bears this week |
| 15:40.42 | dataw0lf | and they haven't really been doing that well, maquis. They got really, really, REALLY lucky last game |
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| 15:59.51 | goozbach | maquis: REALLY lucky |
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| 16:00.19 | goozbach | like oh boy buy a lottery ticket and bet on a longshot, play russian roulletee lucky |
| 16:00.21 | maquis | good to know |
| 16:00.40 | goozbach | jsmith-teaching: WTH does "TDM PDI master abort" mean? |
| 16:01.02 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: Usually, it means you've got problems with your PCI bus |
| 16:01.22 | maquis | jsmith-teaching: what are you teaching? |
| 16:01.28 | goozbach | grr |
| 16:01.30 | goozbach | pci bus |
| 16:01.31 | jsmith-teaching | maquis: Asterisk Bootcamp |
| 16:01.35 | maquis | jsmith-teaching: cool |
| 16:01.55 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: Try grabbing the latest BIOS for your mobo, make sure the card isn't sharing IRQs with something else |
| 16:02.00 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: What mobo? |
| 16:02.21 | maquis | hmmm... so do i do standard shipping and pay $22.83, or add 5$ more to my order, get super-saver, and pay 25$? |
| 16:02.38 | goozbach | jsmith-teaching: no idea, it's a dell poweredge 2650 |
| 16:02.51 | goozbach | I'm going to upgrade to the new machine |
| 16:02.58 | maquis | if i do standard, i might get it friday or saturday... |
| 16:02.59 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: http://kb.digium.com/entry/1/127/ |
| 16:03.13 | goozbach | tks |
| 16:03.15 | jsmith-teaching | Uh, yeah... that's a known problem with the Dell generations 6 and 8 machines |
| 16:03.33 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: You can try disabling the onboard ethernet and use a PCI ethernet card -- that's been reported to help |
| 16:03.57 | goozbach | CRAP!, weve bought a bunch of 8 gen machines for our servers |
| 16:03.59 | jsmith-teaching | maquis: Spend more! |
| 16:04.05 | maquis | jsmith-teaching: lol |
| 16:04.16 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: Get the generation 9 machines... they work *much* better with Asterisk |
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| 16:04.28 | maquis | jsmith-teaching: big issue is, how soon do i want this |
| 16:05.28 | jsmith-teaching | maquis: What are you ordering? |
| 16:05.45 | maquis | the special edition mulan dvd (it has the chinese audio track!) |
| 16:07.15 | ^Migs^ | http://www.shoutfile.com/v/gSfSsCpR/Why_People_Believe_Americans_Are_Stupid |
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| 16:14.57 | jsmith-teaching | ^Migs^: Because we are? |
| 16:15.25 | maquis | because we don't speak any foreign languages? |
| 16:15.28 | jsmith-teaching | I mean "we" as "the average American", not in the sense of "you and I" |
| 16:15.39 | sjansen | http://www.rubyinside.com/ruby-enters-top-10-programming-languages-at-tiobe-353.html |
| 16:17.56 | jsmith-teaching | goozbach: http://www.digium.com/en/docs/misc/compatibility_notes.php <--- the 2650 is on the "ugly" list |
| 16:20.04 | ^Migs^ | really, the commenters worry me more than the video itself |
| 16:20.12 | goozbach | grrrr... |
| 16:20.29 | ^Migs^ | some people have a serious problem realizing that a few parts do not necessarily comprise the whole |
| 16:20.40 | ^Migs^ | a common but dangerous logical fallacy |
| 16:20.48 | sjansen | goozbach: congratulations! |
| 16:20.52 | ^Migs^ | at any rate, the video is funny |
| 16:21.02 | jsmith-teaching | ^Migs^: Unfortunately, it's the law of "lowest common denominator" :-( |
| 16:22.03 | sjansen | goozbach: Will you still remember me when you're rich and famous? I'll embezzle^?^? help you hide your cash from the tax man. |
| 16:22.58 | sjansen | Wow, people are actually using D. |
| 16:23.20 | goozbach | yeah, so? |
| 16:23.47 | levi | I used D for programming projects. It was fairly nice, at least the parts that worked like the documentation suggested they would. |
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| 16:24.32 | ^Migs^ | http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-04/06/content_561311.htm |
| 16:25.34 | levi | Grr. The ssh daemon on my vmware-hosted system at home seems to be hosed somehow. The web server responds nicely, but I can't ssh in. |
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| 16:32.29 | sjansen | http://regex.info/blog/2006-09-15/247 |
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| 16:41.13 | elg | -weather klru |
| 16:41.28 | brac | 8 minutes ago, on Tue Jan 09 16:33:00 UTC 2007, the wind was calm at KLRU. The temperature was 7 degrees Celsius (45 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1033 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 45.4%. There were scattered clouds at a height of 3353 meters (11000 feet). |
| 16:41.51 | elg | -weather kpvu |
| 16:41.52 | brac | 27 minutes ago, on Tue Jan 09 16:15:00 UTC 2007, the wind was calm at KPVU. The temperature was -6 degrees Celsius (21 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1031 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 85.7%. The sky was clear. |
| 16:42.06 | elg | it's nice to be home :) |
| 16:51.09 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zbRpRPGRs4 |
| 16:56.02 | sjansen | ~freeze elg |
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| 17:02.45 | bonez39 | Tene I finally installed sarge to my new amd 64 box... except at installation it wouldn't recognize my awd154 (airnet) PCI wireless network card.... |
| 17:03.24 | bonez39 | how, after the fact, do I get it to see the card, so I can connect to the net...does NDISWRAPPER do this or is that just for windows? |
| 17:09.33 | synic | ndiswrapper may work |
| 17:09.39 | synic | you'll have to see if your card is supported by it |
| 17:15.50 | bonez39 | synic I search on awd154+linux+drivers and it mentions NDISWRAPPER on several sites, but I look closer and it appears ndsi is for windows, not for linux... it shows that my awd154 card would be supported by it... |
| 17:16.12 | synic | ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers to make the card work in linux |
| 17:16.34 | ^Migs^ | teve Jobs is starting his keynote at the 2007 MacWorld right now: http://www.macrumorslive.com |
| 17:16.38 | ^Migs^ | s/teve/Steve/ |
| 17:17.12 | bonez39 | synic I guess i need to read a lot more about ndiswrapper |
| 17:19.50 | levi | Yay, Mac stuff. |
| 17:20.55 | ^Migs^ | haha: 9:17 am showing an ad for vista |
| 17:21.05 | ^Migs^ | 9:18 am we're only talking about the mac today |
| 17:21.28 | atoponce | !w 84405 |
| 17:21.33 | UtahBot | Ogden, Utah; Updated: 09:55 (January 09, 2007); Conditions: Clear; Temperature: 31°F (-1°C); Windchill: 20°F (-7°C); High/Low: 42/23°F (5/-5°C); Humidity: 74%; Dew Point: 23°F (-5°C); UV: 1/16; Wind: East at 16 MPH (26 KPH) |
| 17:30.09 | graphyx | the most obnoxious part of the windows dvorak key mapping is this. |
| 17:30.47 | graphyx | that the key mapping change doesn't occur until after the login |
| 17:32.13 | graphyx | thus the only time your passwords are in qwerty style in when you log on the first time and that will mess up the ability to do pattern passwords. |
| 17:32.59 | findlay | graphyx: that's OK, just think it's dvorak and you'll get an extra layer of obfuscation for free |
| 17:33.39 | graphyx | findlay: except you have to change your pass in dvorak. |
| 17:34.29 | findlay | graphyx: the windows keymap support is pretty much a joke anyway to me as you have to re select the new keymap if you want to change for every application |
| 17:34.29 | rsimpkins | Is there gonig to be PLUG tonight? |
| 17:34.34 | rsimpkins | Tomorrow night? |
| 17:35.16 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, well, I have no voice, and nobody else has offered a presentation.. |
| 17:35.46 | jsmith-teaching | Jayce^: I'd present, if I were in Utah. |
| 17:35.52 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: So is it just a 'social' thing then? |
| 17:36.02 | Jayce^ | I guess, if people will come |
| 17:36.10 | Jayce^ | if nobody is coming, well... |
| 17:36.43 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: We just need something contriversial to throw out there. |
| 17:36.56 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: How about "Why PHP is the best programming language." ;) |
| 17:37.08 | rsimpkins | I'll bring rotten tomatos. |
| 17:37.35 | rsimpkins | I'm gussing NUPM is cancled though? |
| 17:37.53 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, hey, if somebody is willing to present, they can pick their topic... |
| 17:40.09 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: I've got it then. PLUG open mic night. |
| 17:40.30 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: Anyone can come and take the floor for as little or as long as they like and discuss pretty much anything Linux/OSS related they want. |
| 17:40.43 | Jayce^ | k |
| 17:40.53 | goozbach | rotten tomatoes! |
| 17:40.55 | goozbach | yay! |
| 17:41.56 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: I'm going to say NUPM open mic starts at 7:00pm- that okay? |
| 17:42.06 | findlay | rsimpkins: are you in charge of the plug mailing list? |
| 17:42.14 | rsimpkins | findlay: Nope. Thank goodness. :) |
| 17:42.20 | findlay | ok |
| 17:42.26 | rsimpkins | findlay: What's up? |
| 17:42.39 | findlay | I just got a message from mailman that I've been bouncing a lot |
| 17:42.54 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, yeah |
| 17:43.14 | findlay | a couple of weeks ago I installed postgrey. I guess that might do it |
| 17:43.35 | findlay | that and my mailserver was down for about a week |
| 17:43.54 | findlay | thanks ^Migs^ |
| 17:44.04 | ^Migs^ | np |
| 17:44.28 | rsimpkins | findlay: Did it give you a bounced message as an example or anything? |
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| 17:45.09 | findlay | rsimpkins: yes |
| 17:45.18 | harleypig | findlay: maybe |
| 17:45.27 | findlay | harleypig: no? |
| 17:45.37 | levi | Wow, bowl me over, Apple just announced the cell phone iPod. |
| 17:45.39 | harleypig | findlay: possibly |
| 17:45.56 | rsimpkins | findlay: If you forward it to me I am happy to take a look and see if I can play around. |
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| 17:46.08 | rsimpkins | findlay: I do have an account on the box and can try a few things. |
| 17:46.21 | findlay | rsimpkins: it's not that big of a deal to me. I just don't want to cause a lot of trouble |
| 17:46.31 | rsimpkins | levi: Only $900? |
| 17:46.44 | rsimpkins | findlay: I'd really love to look at it. |
| 17:47.13 | findlay | rsimpkins: ok, don't want to deny you any fun (-: |
| 17:47.28 | levi | rsimpkins: Haven't mentioned the price yet. |
| 17:48.12 | findlay | rsimpkins: sent |
| 17:48.20 | rsimpkins | Okay everyone. Come to the January PLUG meeting tomorrow! |
| 17:48.25 | rsimpkins | The more the better. Open mic night! |
| 17:48.31 | findlay | yes! |
| 17:48.33 | ^Migs^ | I'm in a really pissy mood right now. I lost my contact this morning, and need to order a new one but it'll take a few weeks during which time I'll be half-blind and then have to get used to the contact again. I have a dumb meeting to go to in a couple hours. My wife's feeling depressed, my kid has anger issues.. |
| 17:48.35 | ^Migs^ | seriously, wtf? |
| 17:48.43 | rsimpkins | Bring your linux related stand-up comic jokes! |
| 17:48.52 | levi | I used to wear a single contact lens all the time. |
| 17:49.00 | ^Migs^ | I've been realizing that I haven't composed a decent song in YEARS |
| 17:49.00 | findlay | ^Migs^: come to vent at plug! |
| 17:49.04 | ^Migs^ | heck no |
| 17:49.26 | ^Migs^ | being around a bunch of MS-bashing anti-social nerds isn't going to cheer me up |
| 17:49.29 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: Do you want to send out a meeting e-mail, or should I? |
| 17:49.30 | levi | rsimpkins: The AppleTV gadget is only $299, though. |
| 17:49.54 | rsimpkins | levi: That's not too bad really. I'll wait for the $199 knock off version probably. |
| 17:50.12 | ^Migs^ | what I really need is a new job |
| 17:50.21 | levi | rsimpkins: It does 720p video out, does wireless syncing with your computer, plays music/video from your iTunes library, etc. |
| 17:50.26 | ^Migs^ | someplace I would actually get rewarded for working as hard as I do |
| 17:50.34 | rsimpkins | ^Migs^: Isn't not attending PLUG meetings anti-social? |
| 17:50.35 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins, can you? |
| 17:50.39 | rsimpkins | Jayce^: You bet. |
| 17:50.47 | ^Migs^ | I guess that's a good point |
| 17:54.31 | levi | The iPhone looks sexy. No buttons, it's all touchscreen-controlled. |
| 17:54.31 | levi | Well, one button. |
| 17:54.32 | levi | a 3.5in 160dpi screen. |
| 17:54.32 | Jayce^ | very cool |
| 17:54.47 | levi | Apparently it runs OS X. |
| 17:54.54 | Jayce^ | full version at that.. |
| 17:54.57 | Jayce^ | core graphics and all |
| 17:55.26 | levi | 2 megapixel camera. |
| 17:55.39 | levi | This thing has got to be ridiculously expensive. |
| 17:57.28 | ^Migs^ | imagine how greasy the iPhone screen will get in the hands of some consumers |
| 17:58.15 | levi | The microfiber cloth people will be happy. |
| 17:58.51 | rsimpkins | levi: microfiber? |
| 17:59.11 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsECmLCQdqE |
| 17:59.18 | levi | rsimpkins: That's what the cloths for cleaning glasses are made of. |
| 17:59.24 | levi | rsimpkins: They work REALLY well. |
| 18:00.45 | mrpull | holy cow. that iPhone is sexy |
| 18:01.22 | Jayce^ | watch it mrpull, you'll be using apple before you know it |
| 18:01.39 | levi | That screen is niiiiiice. |
| 18:02.57 | mrpull | i really like having a qwerty (hardware) keyboard for email and sms |
| 18:02.58 | Jayce^ | wow... no wonder they said they had nothing to fear on the new zune features.. |
| 18:03.30 | levi | Hah. |
| 18:03.36 | mrpull | it's gotta be expensive |
| 18:03.39 | Jayce^ | oh yeah |
| 18:03.50 | Jayce^ | $500 or more I'd guess. |
| 18:04.13 | mrpull | i think it is a steal at $500 |
| 18:04.24 | mrpull | how many phone have 8GB of memory? |
| 18:04.55 | mrpull | however, I don't want it if it scratches like my nano |
| 18:05.25 | levi | You just need some polish and a buffer to fix that. |
| 18:06.25 | levi | I've got one of the new nanos. The aluminum case is way more resilient than the lucite stuff. It's nice. |
| 18:06.37 | mrpull | there is some rule in the universe that when I buy something, the next (much cooler) revision will ship shortly after |
| 18:06.46 | mrpull | i just bought a 5.5g ipod |
| 18:08.17 | levi | Mine's an 8gb. My old 1st gen iPod was 10gb, and finally lost all ability to hold a charge. |
| 18:08.59 | mrpull | yeah, the new nanos are sexy |
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| 18:09.30 | levi | Matte black looks cool, too. |
| 18:10.57 | mrpull | any mention if the iPhone will support exchange or BES syncing? |
| 18:11.22 | Jayce^ | nothing yet, but full OSX, so possibilities exist.. |
| 18:11.48 | mrpull | not working with windows is a deal killer for me |
| 18:12.03 | levi | He did mention a lot of syncing capability. |
| 18:12.12 | levi | And not working with windows would be a deal killer to a lot of people. |
| 18:12.30 | Jayce^ | I'm sure it'll work with windows, it's exchange that's the question.. |
| 18:12.38 | Jayce^ | it's just synching with itunes.. |
| 18:14.23 | levi | Apparently it has an on-screen keyboard. |
| 18:15.06 | sjansen | That thing is too tiny to run OS X, and have a good antenna, and have storage media, and have such a beautiful display, and... well, you get my point. |
| 18:16.32 | levi | Perhaps it really runs 'OS X embedded' or something. |
| 18:27.07 | atoponce | findlay: ping |
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| 18:28.28 | maquis | supposedly you *can* install OSX on the ipod |
| 18:29.27 | mrpull | maquis: i've heard of people booting a Mac off an iPod as an external firewire disk |
| 18:29.39 | mrpull | but not installing and running on an iPod standalone |
| 18:29.54 | mrpull | (but linux does run on an ipod standalone) |
| 18:34.19 | levi | Heh, 'Applegoo' |
| 18:35.09 | maquis | mrpull: i believe i heard about that on #ipodlinux |
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| 18:39.09 | rsimpkins | Oh this quiz will be so... quizical. One of the most amazing Linux/FOSS quizzical quizzes to place you in a quandary you won't question. So be sure to quome to the meeting. Treats to those who can answer stuff. |
| 18:42.06 | findlay | atoponce: pong |
| 18:48.33 | levi | $499 for 4GB, $599 for 8GB |
| 18:48.50 | levi | So, not too different from other new smartphones. |
| 18:49.04 | levi | Available in June. |
| 18:51.01 | rsimpkins | hey - my guess was right. |
| 18:51.22 | rsimpkins | Only off by $300. |
| 18:51.50 | findlay | so there's no apple branded light saber? |
| 18:51.57 | findlay | that would have been my guess |
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| 18:59.33 | Supaplex | sup :) |
| 18:59.39 | mrpull | 600 is a great deal |
| 18:59.44 | fungus | June? :( |
| 18:59.47 | levi | Hmm, no more Apple Computer, Inc. |
| 18:59.56 | Supaplex | humm? |
| 18:59.57 | levi | Now just Apple, Inc. |
| 19:00.44 | findlay | sup Sup |
| 19:02.43 | vontrapp_ | did someone post an iphone link? |
| 19:04.11 | spr | macrumors.com has a lot of photos |
| 19:05.40 | levi | http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs-keynote |
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| 19:12.57 | maquis | his shirt's not gray? |
| 19:14.51 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | goozbach's a star : http://www.frontalot.com |
| 19:29.03 | tensai | that's great. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200060038698 |
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| 19:50.34 | harleypig | Stoopid Monkey |
| 19:51.11 | mrpull | http://www.apple.com/iphone/ |
| 19:51.21 | mrpull | I like the UI |
| 19:52.03 | harleypig | What is nerdcore rising? |
| 19:59.36 | sjansen | http://www.nerdcorerising.com/ |
| 19:59.56 | sjansen | Nerdcore hip hop is a sociological phenomenon born out of the internet and made possible by computer-obsessed geeks. Nerdcore Rising follows MC Frontalot - the "Godfather of Nerdcore" - on his first national tour to reveal both the roots of the genre and the dorky complexities of its artists. Featuring Weird Al Yankovic, MC Chris, MC Lars, Brian Posehn, Jello Biafra, Daily Show Folks, and a slew of other artists and commentators. |
| 20:00.29 | redbeard1 | oh man. i want an iphone. |
| 20:02.52 | findlay | including goozbach_! |
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| 20:07.21 | sjansen | Oh man, I want a power adapter that doesn't need to be fed tin foil to keep working. |
| 20:08.38 | harleypig | cool |
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| 20:13.09 | harleypig | You can zoom in on pics with just a two finger stroke! |
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| 20:17.44 | vontrapp | sjansen: it's not the power adapter usually, it's the receiving port |
| 20:18.06 | vontrapp | when i got my port replaced (because a solder joint came lose) the power cord fit nice and snug again for about 2 months |
| 20:18.57 | vontrapp | s/lose/loose/ |
| 20:18.59 | sjansen | The adapter fits nice an snug right now. But when I looked down the barrel of the adapter's tip I saw one of the two metal thingies was flattened. |
| 20:19.34 | vontrapp | ah, i see |
| 20:20.31 | vontrapp | that could be problematic |
| 20:34.10 | atoponce | findlay: ping again |
| 20:34.21 | Jayce^ | sjansen, speaking of looking down a barrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHp9qZvU8iY |
| 20:35.06 | sjansen | rule number 1 |
| 20:35.10 | findlay | atoponce: pong again |
| 20:35.20 | atoponce | findlay: i see you as offline on jabber |
| 20:36.15 | findlay | atoponce: I just deleted both your contacts |
| 20:36.17 | atoponce | yet, it says that you're added and i'm authorized... |
| 20:36.24 | atoponce | ok. i'll resend |
| 20:37.04 | atoponce | resnet |
| 20:37.12 | atoponce | s/ne/en/ |
| 20:38.06 | findlay | I'm not showing up anything in gmail's embedded google talk |
| 20:38.15 | atoponce | odd |
| 20:38.52 | findlay | I've been having simmilar problems with ggundy for a while now. It may be related, as in google doing something wierd |
| 20:39.10 | findlay | because he runs his own jabber server too |
| 20:40.08 | atoponce | hmmm. yeah. everytime i remove then add you, it says i'm already authorized. weird |
| 20:42.05 | tensai | that's the funniest phish I've ever seen |
| 20:42.33 | tensai | links were to google ads as well as the phishing site, I guess hoping to sell his own ads |
| 20:42.57 | tensai | "You've added an additional email address to your PayPal account. If you don.t agree with this email tcgrady@cox.net." |
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| 20:45.30 | atoponce | findlay: yeah. i dunno |
| 20:46.20 | atoponce | it auto auth's me everytime |
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| 20:47.00 | bonez39 | what's that command in Winders.... to see one's internal and external IP addresses? |
| 20:47.28 | findlay | ipconfig? |
| 20:50.46 | bonez39 | ok, that is it...I was trying winipcfg...but that's way old |
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| 21:23.35 | findlay | these people who work here are too nice for me |
| 21:23.58 | findlay | I'm way too antisocial for all of their attention |
| 21:24.54 | dataw0lf | you ever punch a CRT monitor before? It kinda hurts. |
| 21:25.43 | findlay | depends a lot on where |
| 21:25.53 | findlay | the front glass ought to be pretty elastic |
| 21:25.58 | dataw0lf | it's not |
| 21:26.01 | findlay | (from an energy POV) |
| 21:26.14 | findlay | the plastic more flexible |
| 21:26.27 | dataw0lf | I'm not the green lantern, y'know. |
| 21:26.39 | findlay | ~green lantern |
| 21:29.08 | dataw0lf | danke, sir |
| 21:29.20 | dataw0lf | you don't know who the green lantern is? you've been missing out |
| 21:29.36 | findlay | I have |
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| 21:31.27 | dataw0lf | Spider-Man 3 invades my every thought nowadays, though, I don't have much time for other superheroes. |
| 21:33.49 | findlay | ooh, so he's a spider man villian |
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| 21:37.33 | goozbach_ | won't this day ever end? |
| 21:38.24 | goozbach | wtf? when did I grow a tail? |
| 21:56.50 | \^Migs^ | silly \me, thinking he can usurp my top position on the list |
| 21:57.44 | Supaplex | bzzzt |
| 21:58.02 | goozbach | day over yet? |
| 21:58.28 | Supaplex | nay |
| 22:02.44 | findlay | ~date |
| 22:02.46 | ibot | It is now 2007.01.09 22:02:46 GMT |
| 22:03.04 | goozbach | drat! |
| 22:06.06 | Supaplex | hey goozbach, I regret to inform you, it's still TODAY! :-> |
| 22:08.43 | goozbach | drat! |
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| 23:09.14 | findlay | what's the gnome command for a new login? |
| 23:09.26 | findlay | like gdm spawns a new X server and everything |
| 23:11.39 | herlo | gdm-restart |
| 23:11.51 | tensai | gdm-flexiserver or something like that? |
| 23:13.26 | findlay | tensai: gdmflexiserver |
| 23:21.33 | MrHope | @t |
| 23:21.46 | MrHope | Oops sorry wrong channel. ;) |
| 23:22.28 | findlay | oh sure (: |
| 23:22.49 | MrHope | Just a lurker in this channel for now. |
| 23:23.11 | findlay | and then you'll do great things? |
| 23:23.29 | MrHope | Possibly. I can't see into the future. |
| 23:27.07 | tensai | well, we can only hope for the best |
| 23:27.18 | MrHope | :) |
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| 23:41.27 | beandog | Any network / windows admins looking for some emergency consulting work? :) |
| 23:44.37 | jsmith-teaching | beandog: Not only no, but... |
| 23:44.53 | jsmith-teaching | "windows" and "emergency" doesn't sound like fun. |
| 23:44.59 | jsmith-teaching | What the emergency? |
| 23:45.33 | beandog | jsmith-teaching: our intranet has mysteriously crashed, we cant pinpoint the problem. |
| 23:45.47 | beandog | Im suspicious that its a virus, but I cant even figure out which box it is. |
| 23:54.14 | mrpull | any body see any Wii Systems for sale at retail stores lately? |
| 23:54.17 | findlay | beandog: just tell them it's time to get rid of windows |
| 23:54.42 | beandog | that's lke telling the queen of england to give up tea. |
| 23:55.04 | jsmith-teaching | mrpull: The BestBuy I was at last night had one... but I'm in Huntsville, AL |
| 23:59.20 | mrpull | jsmith-teaching: they might still be worth snagging and selling on ebay |
| 23:59.35 | mrpull | seems people are paying 400+ for them |