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| 00:31.35 | findlay | levi_home: I need to ask you a question the next time you're in |
| 00:31.49 | findlay | ~invoke levi_home |
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| 02:12.05 | levi_home | findlay: Yes? |
| 02:19.57 | findlay | levi_home: I'm trying to figure out how to process HTML with 'event handlers' and I don't easily understand the paradigm |
| 02:20.55 | findlay | all I want to do is grab all the <tr>s and <td>s from a table and put them into a data structure |
| 02:22.04 | findlay | but I don't know how I would do it without knowing what the enclosing block is and that seems to me to invalidate the event based approch |
| 02:32.14 | levi_home | What kind of event handlers? What's the context? |
| 02:33.27 | levi_home | From my understanding of 'event handlers' in general and HTML parsing, I'm having trouble seeing the connection between the two. |
| 02:34.25 | findlay | http://search.cpan.org/~mirod/XML-Twig-3.28/Twig.pm |
| 02:34.44 | findlay | that's what I want to use to parse with |
| 02:34.58 | levi_home | Why? |
| 02:35.00 | findlay | there are a few modules with simmilar schemes |
| 02:35.23 | findlay | because I'm using WWW::Mechanize and I need to do some HTML parsing |
| 02:35.56 | findlay | I'm not so particular about what I use to parse it as long as it's easy and lets me use a sane solution |
| 02:39.03 | findlay | I guess I'll do what makes sense now and see what it looks like |
| 02:42.07 | levi_home | That looks like a pretty awkward way to parse HTML to me. |
| 02:42.19 | findlay | how would you do it? |
| 02:43.04 | levi_home | Well, it might depend on what information I wanted to extract, or what I wanted to do with it. |
| 02:43.28 | findlay | what about a table? |
| 02:44.42 | levi_home | Are you given an HTML table to do something with, or do you have to extract tables from a document, or what? |
| 02:44.57 | findlay | extract a table from an html file |
| 02:45.14 | levi_home | And do what with it? |
| 02:45.15 | findlay | and do a few other things with it |
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| 02:45.46 | findlay | read it into a data structure so I can do very specific analysis |
| 02:49.12 | levi_home | So, you'd like to skip everything until you get to a table open tag, parse everything until the corresponding close tag into a tree structure, and then moviee on? |
| 02:49.52 | findlay | yes |
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| 03:41.17 | atoponce | #utah: what font is fixed width everywhere except for white space? |
| 03:41.26 | atoponce | doesn't make sense to me |
| 03:42.46 | atoponce | if it's "fixed width", then that needs to include the whitespace |
| 03:43.43 | atoponce | i have 2 spaces for every character |
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| 04:54.06 | *** topic/#utah is Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | Have you dumped a DWARF2 unwinder today? |
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| 04:55.43 | atoponce | !insult ibot |
| 04:55.54 | atoponce | bah |
| 05:00.28 | QBFreak | Tene: ninja! |
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| 06:09.35 | levi_home | Ahh, the weekend is over already. |
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| 13:27.39 | nick125_lappy | Hmm, Sealand is for sale |
| 13:27.46 | nick125_lappy | $979 million |
| 13:44.52 | goozbach | Good Morining |
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| 14:02.41 | redbeard1 | tensai: pong |
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| 14:35.55 | goozbach | how's that sandwich comming? |
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| 14:59.02 | tensai | redbeard1: I had a question when I was making ice cream but it's too late now |
| 14:59.56 | tensai | redbeard1: but that's ok. it turned out well anyway. |
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| 15:06.25 | goozbach | blasted OLD documentaion! |
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| 15:09.43 | goozbach | ~\o let's get perpendicular o/~ |
| 15:16.28 | redbeard1 | tensai: what flavor did you make? |
| 15:16.40 | tensai | redbeard1: vanilla |
| 15:16.59 | redbeard1 | with eggs or no? |
| 15:17.06 | tensai | eggs yes |
| 15:17.15 | redbeard1 | did i turn out okay? |
| 15:17.39 | redbeard1 | s/i /it / |
| 15:17.51 | tensai | yes. quite well actually. |
| 15:18.02 | tensai | crap I forgot to bring some to work |
| 15:18.04 | redbeard1 | did you use beans or extract? |
| 15:18.09 | tensai | extract |
| 15:18.23 | goozbach | if you could... which vegtable/fruit would you cross with a pineapple for best results, and why? |
| 15:19.23 | redbeard1 | an apple |
| 15:19.29 | redbeard1 | because the name would be fun |
| 15:19.37 | redbeard1 | pineappleapple |
| 15:19.44 | goozbach | heh |
| 15:19.52 | goozbach | I think a zucinni would be better |
| 15:19.55 | goozbach | pinezini |
| 15:20.23 | redbeard1 | sounds italian |
| 15:20.26 | goozbach | heh |
| 15:20.37 | goozbach | like some sort of fruit coctail |
| 15:22.34 | redbeard1 | what would one do with pinezini? |
| 15:23.23 | goozbach | eat i |
| 15:23.26 | goozbach | eat it |
| 15:23.29 | goozbach | maybe fry it |
| 15:24.14 | redbeard1 | mmm, fried pinezini |
| 15:27.50 | goozbach | pan fried |
| 15:28.10 | goozbach | coated in egg, dreged in cornflakes |
| 15:28.14 | goozbach | and panfried |
| 15:28.24 | goozbach | in butter no less |
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| 15:28.35 | goozbach | served with a nice porkchop |
| 15:28.44 | goozbach | and corn-on-the cob |
| 15:28.47 | goozbach | hmm dinner! |
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| 16:34.02 | findlay | ~eat goozbach |
| 16:34.11 | ibot | ACTION eats goozbach and falls over dead |
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| 16:39.19 | goozbach | ohh food |
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| 16:47.17 | tristanbob | does Intel sell graphics cards? or only integrated into motherboards? |
| 16:48.16 | nick125_lappy | tristanbob: only in the motherboard, if I remember correctly |
| 16:48.58 | tristanbob | I think so too |
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| 16:49.10 | tristanbob | they have open sourced their drivers, and they have a large marketshare. But they don't have comparable performance to ATI/Nvidia. |
| 16:54.03 | ^Migs^ | Is there a way to make a user's computer explode if they view your web page with IE instead of Firefox? |
| 16:57.21 | nick125_lappy | ^Migs^: Not that I'm aware of |
| 17:05.47 | findlay | ^Migs^: maybe you can expliot some security bug and crash X or somehting or whatever they call X on windows |
| 17:06.00 | ^Migs^ | I wish it were acceptable to spank other people's kids. I'd carry a paddle around everywhere I go. If some kid is annoying me in the grocery store, I just whip it out and WHACK! |
| 17:06.12 | ^Migs^ | if EVERYONE did that, kids wouldn't be as unruly as they are nowadays. |
| 17:06.18 | findlay | ~annoy ^Migs^ |
| 17:06.25 | ibot | ACTION dances around ^Migs^, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy ^Migs^ to the maximum amount |
| 17:06.42 | ^Migs^ | I think X = Windows on Windows |
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| 17:16.41 | jbellis | QBFreak: a few days ago you said it might be possible to fix a flickering thinkpad backlight with an inverter? |
| 17:17.47 | atoponce | http://ilias.ca/blog/2007/01/easy-gmail-and-mac-setup-on-latest-thunderbird-2-builds/ |
| 17:19.57 | bonez39 | I need to update my motherboard...and processor.......in sandy.....EBC doesn't seem very clued in on linux.... what are some other good suppliers for system upgrades? |
| 17:22.43 | atoponce | pc club, although they don't seem to have much of a clue about linux either |
| 17:28.51 | dataw0lf | bonez39: newegg? |
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| 17:34.18 | bonez39 | dataw0lf, ok, I'll check out newegg...I think they have a store here in Murray |
| 17:36.49 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 17:37.12 | herlo | bonez39: only at newegg.com |
| 17:38.02 | ^Migs^ | http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/01/08/3235156-sun.html |
| 17:40.12 | findlay | bonez39: they used to have a store in Murray |
| 17:40.17 | findlay | next to fashion place |
| 17:40.41 | findlay | before they disappeared into the vapidity of cyberspace |
| 17:42.34 | QBFreak | jbellis: thats the first thing I'd check |
| 17:43.09 | QBFreak | anyone know of a free windows program for imaging disks, besides winimage |
| 17:43.24 | jbellis | QBFreak: do you do this professionally, or you just happen to have inverters lying around sometimes :) |
| 17:43.27 | QBFreak | I need to make a bootable CD and nero doesn't seem to want to read the disk |
| 17:43.48 | jbellis | QBFreak: iso recorder |
| 17:43.55 | QBFreak | I work in a PC repair shop, I don't do a lot with the laptops but from what I've done that would be my first guess |
| 17:44.01 | QBFreak | not sure if we have any lying around or not |
| 17:44.03 | jbellis | oh, you want to make an image not burn one... nvm |
| 17:44.30 | jbellis | what shop? |
| 17:44.31 | QBFreak | I need a floppy image to be able to make a bootable CD :) |
| 17:44.45 | QBFreak | Central Carolina Computers, waay over here on the east coast :) |
| 17:44.55 | jbellis | doh |
| 17:45.06 | QBFreak | I really don't belong here :) |
| 17:49.00 | QBFreak | aha, dd for windows |
| 17:50.11 | bonez39 | herlo, so basically, nothing locally..... |
| 17:50.53 | herlo | bonez39: right, it's an online only store |
| 17:51.19 | bonez39 | so, you mostly purchase any parts you need online,...... |
| 17:51.28 | herlo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newegg |
| 17:51.34 | herlo | bonez39: right |
| 17:51.40 | ^Migs^ | http://www.woot.com/ |
| 17:53.51 | QBFreak | I don't get nero...it let me select that I wanted to use a boot disk image for the CD, but it never asked me to select one |
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| 18:13.41 | bonez39 | there's something about being able to buy direct...to me anyway....unless the saving is substantial....buying online.....maybe I'll just take my box in and see what they can do... |
| 18:15.39 | sjansen | I go to stores when I need something immediately. I buy online when I want a better price and larger selection. |
| 18:16.17 | sjansen | Well, I guess I also prefer stores when I have a strong suspicion I'll have to return the item. |
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| 18:19.43 | levi | Heh, I just spent the last hour or so watching my boss do battle with SuSE 10 printing config stuff. |
| 18:20.06 | findlay | levi: how did it end? |
| 18:20.10 | findlay | did he win? |
| 18:20.34 | levi | Successfully, once we figured out that it was attempting to look up administrative passwords in its own database that didn't exist. |
| 18:20.52 | levi | cups was, that is. |
| 18:21.58 | vontrapp | is there a way in ruby to check if a PID is running? |
| 18:22.18 | levi | Look it up in the proc fs? |
| 18:22.31 | vontrapp | how portable is that? |
| 18:22.38 | sjansen | not very |
| 18:22.49 | sjansen | But who cares as long as it runs on the One True OS(tm). |
| 18:23.06 | vontrapp | i only really need it to run on anything that would run imms |
| 18:24.48 | bonez39 | anyone here having trouble with comcast? really slow? I was getting 500k down, and 50k upload...far below the 4mg I am buying from them |
| 18:25.09 | nick125_lappy | 500kbit or 500kbyte? |
| 18:27.44 | bonez39 | kbps |
| 18:27.51 | bonez39 | what is kbps? |
| 18:29.13 | nick125_lappy | kbit per second |
| 18:29.13 | levi | Where are you seeing the speed report? On a download box, or a speed reporting site, or what? |
| 18:29.29 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 18:29.36 | ^Migs^ | I get better than that with Qwest DSL |
| 18:29.43 | levi | I don't. |
| 18:29.45 | ^Migs^ | 1.5 Mbps, in fact |
| 18:29.50 | levi | My Qwest DSL sucks badly. |
| 18:29.54 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 18:30.04 | levi | They can't get me a stable line faster than 256k. |
| 18:30.09 | ^Migs^ | that's weird. I usually cap out at about 500k down, 100k up |
| 18:30.09 | nick125_lappy | My Qwest DSL circuit is working decently (not with Qwest.net though) |
| 18:30.26 | ^Migs^ | must be burst speeds |
| 18:30.52 | levi | I'm right at the distance limit from the CO. |
| 18:31.20 | bonez39 | levi, this speed report is at www.vonage.com |
| 18:31.37 | levi | Ahh, it's probably kilobits/sec, then. |
| 18:31.43 | bonez39 | they have it there to run to see if one's speed is sufficient to support VOIP calls |
| 18:32.17 | nick125_lappy | bonez39: try running a test from somewhere like speedtest.net or dslreports |
| 18:32.21 | sjansen | jazz++ |
| 18:32.24 | sjansen | electronica++ |
| 18:32.30 | sjansen | jazz+electronica++ |
| 18:32.53 | nick125_lappy | flash-- |
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| 18:33.22 | atoponce | while(true) {flash-=flash;} |
| 18:33.49 | sjansen | heh |
| 18:34.36 | nick125_lappy | atoponce: that works |
| 18:35.14 | levi | Actually, whether it works or not depends on what you want it to do. |
| 18:35.28 | levi | And what the current value of 'flash' is. |
| 18:36.40 | nick125_lappy | the value before the loop is -1 |
| 18:37.04 | levi | Well, actually, it doesn't matter what the current value is. |
| 18:37.09 | levi | It goes to 0 and stays there. |
| 18:37.34 | levi | The looping is irrelevant, unless there's another thread with access to the variable. |
| 18:40.24 | sjansen | Your literalism is blinding you to the greater truth of the code. As other technologies improve, Flash becomes an increasingly inappropriate choice. |
| 18:41.23 | levi | sjansen: That is not at all what the code says at all, literal or not. You must think it means something like: while (true) { flash -= 1 } |
| 18:41.25 | sjansen | Put simply, the code was transcendentally correct. |
| 18:41.47 | levi | sjansen: Sure, tell that to your compiler next time you write the wrong code. |
| 18:41.52 | sjansen | heh |
| 18:43.58 | atoponce | if flash != 0, then flash will continue to decrease to the size of the variable. if flash == 0, then it will stay where it belongs |
| 18:44.45 | atoponce | so, in either case, the code is as designed: keep flash <= 0. :) |
| 18:45.08 | bonez39 | nick125_lappy, that's working at dslreports |
| 18:45.09 | levi | atoponce: After the first time through the loop, the value stored in flash will be 0, though. |
| 18:45.25 | atoponce | ahh. yes. good point |
| 18:45.35 | atoponce | it hits 0 and stays there |
| 18:45.52 | levi | Might as well just say flash = 0; in the loop. |
| 18:45.59 | atoponce | while(true) {flash-=1;} # would be more appropriate |
| 18:46.34 | atoponce | !order green tea |
| 18:46.57 | nick125_lappy | !order dual T1 lines |
| 18:47.02 | nick125_lappy | yay |
| 18:47.19 | sjansen | Isn't the software design process inspirational? |
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| 18:57.21 | ^Migs^ | !order ninjas and pirates |
| 19:02.08 | maquis | !order lunch |
| 19:02.22 | nick125_lappy | !order lunch |
| 19:02.25 | nick125_lappy | yay |
| 19:02.28 | nick125_lappy | food |
| 19:05.23 | atoponce | !orderfor maquis chinese |
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| 19:13.24 | vontrapp | !orderfor atoponce certain death |
| 19:17.29 | vontrapp | arg! everytime my xfs drive gets unplugged accidentally, it becomes unmountable |
| 19:17.51 | vontrapp | and then i have to xfs_repair |
| 19:19.52 | nick125_lappy | vontrapp: that's why you should use ext3 |
| 19:20.41 | vontrapp | this time xfs_repair finishes ,but it reamians unmountale |
| 19:21.55 | vontrapp | hmmm, dmesg reports it has duplicate uuid |
| 19:22.01 | vontrapp | but not what it's duplicate to |
| 19:22.24 | vontrapp | a reboot would probably fix it i guess, but i don't want to do that |
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| 19:23.54 | sjansen | maybe it didn't completely remove itself from the kerne's mount tables |
| 19:24.43 | sjansen | As a shear guess, pure instinct, can you safely unload and reload the xfs driver to encourage it to clean up after itself? |
| 19:24.59 | nick125_lappy | sjansen: He might have it built into the kernel |
| 19:25.01 | vontrapp | sjansen: i'll try that next time |
| 19:25.16 | vontrapp | nah, it's a module |
| 19:26.29 | vontrapp | dvd's have to be UDF? |
| 19:26.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Is anyone familiar with "speed testing" services, like the one at ookla.com? |
| 19:26.54 | sjansen | Last I heard, current best practice was to make most things modules, even filesystems. Partially because the module code gets more testing because more people compile everything as modules. |
| 19:27.10 | sjansen | If you need a certain FS driver to boot, put it in an initrd. |
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| 19:28.05 | vontrapp | so basically, best practice is to use modules because everyone uses modules |
| 19:28.27 | sjansen | Isn't the circle of life wonderful to behold? |
| 19:28.28 | ^Migs^ | I really wish new guy would stop taking insanely long lunch breaks. I have a ton of things I need him to do. :( |
| 19:28.52 | vontrapp | i wish i would take insanely long lunch breaks |
| 19:29.14 | vontrapp | *sigh* |
| 19:29.23 | vontrapp | ~lart school |
| 19:36.03 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYGhmJD9LKc |
| 19:36.37 | Lone_Wanderer | s/indoctrinates/inducts |
| 19:52.27 | [phoenyx] | ^Migs^: that was very disturbing, and funny, and very disturbing |
| 19:52.43 | ^Migs^ | agreed |
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| 20:22.48 | ^Migs^ | http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_6710.aspx |
| 20:25.16 | sjansen | Amusing, but not $40 amusing. |
| 20:27.40 | goozbach | dinda disturbing |
| 20:27.47 | goozbach | kinda that is |
| 20:29.30 | ^Migs^ | you guys suck at commenting |
| 20:30.04 | ^Migs^ | all you can say is "disturbing," "amusing," "funny." |
| 20:31.41 | sjansen | Okay, here's a couple sentences. My first impression was "interesting idea". My second impression was, "geez, what a waste of money I hope they've found a way to make a profit on this otherwise it's a lame 'me too' of the 'destroy something expensive' meme." |
| 20:34.22 | ^Migs^ | Thanks, sjansen. Your feedback was considerably more useful. |
| 20:37.51 | goozbach | my comment: meh |
| 20:37.55 | goozbach | disturbs |
| 20:38.29 | Tene | what was it? |
| 20:38.36 | Tene | I'm not curious enough to go look for myself. |
| 20:38.41 | sjansen | TMX elmo on fire |
| 20:39.39 | sjansen | Once the you've seen Elmo, engulfed by flames, fall over and say "it tickles", you can pretty much stop watching. Nothing interesting happens after that. |
| 20:40.37 | sjansen | Now a flaming Elmo rolling around a model city destroying everything as he laughs, that might be funny... or not. |
| 20:41.43 | sjansen | s/destroying everything/destroying everything Godzilla style/ |
| 20:50.03 | ^Migs^ | it would be funny to catapult flaming Elmos into peoples' backyards |
| 20:51.07 | Tene | I really doubt it would be |
| 20:54.14 | goozbach | create a walking army of flaming Elmos? |
| 20:54.22 | goozbach | they storm your brushpile |
| 20:54.31 | goozbach | and burn down your house |
| 20:55.59 | ^Migs^ | remote-controlled flaming Elmos |
| 20:56.33 | Tene | ~goozbach ^Migs^ |
| 20:57.08 | Tene | ibot: goozbach $target is <action> burns down $target's house with an army of flaming Elmos. |
| 20:57.09 | ibot | okay, Tene |
| 21:00.22 | ^Migs^ | uh oh, I just reset someone's password |
| 21:00.25 | ^Migs^ | sucks to be them |
| 21:00.40 | Tene | because you're going to stab out their throat, right? |
| 21:01.19 | Tene | ibot: ^migs^ $target is <action> stabs out $target's throat and resets $target's password. |
| 21:01.20 | ibot | Tene: okay |
| 21:04.41 | ^Migs^ | ~^Migs^ Tene |
| 21:04.46 | ^Migs^ | ~migs tene |
| 21:04.48 | ibot | ACTION forces tene to learn perl from ^Migs^ |
| 21:05.24 | Tene | Eww. |
| 21:11.11 | ^Migs^ | Eww Tene |
| 21:11.30 | Tene | ~migs-- |
| 21:11.39 | Tene | ~karma migs |
| 21:11.39 | ibot | migs has karma of -1 |
| 21:11.44 | Tene | ~karma tene |
| 21:11.44 | ibot | tene has karma of -9 |
| 21:11.48 | Tene | :( |
| 21:13.45 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 21:13.48 | ^Migs^ | ~Tene-- |
| 21:13.52 | ^Migs^ | ~karma tene |
| 21:13.52 | ibot | tene has karma of -10 |
| 21:14.01 | ^Migs^ | ~migs++ |
| 21:14.04 | ^Migs^ | ~karma migs |
| 21:14.04 | ibot | migs has neutral karma |
| 21:14.10 | ^Migs^ | that's better |
| 21:14.17 | Tene | ~migs loses |
| 21:14.18 | ibot | ACTION forces loses to learn perl from ^Migs^ |
| 21:14.32 | ^Migs^ | ~^Migs^++ |
| 21:14.37 | ^Migs^ | ~karma ^Migs^ |
| 21:14.37 | ibot | ^migs^ has karma of 1 |
| 21:16.03 | redbeard1 | ~karma redbeard1 |
| 21:16.04 | ibot | redbeard1 has neutral karma |
| 21:16.29 | sjansen | ^Migs^-- |
| 21:16.39 | sjansen | No one should increase their own karma. |
| 21:16.44 | sjansen | ~karma sjansen |
| 21:16.44 | ibot | sjansen has karma of 3 |
| 21:16.49 | sjansen | woo hoo! |
| 21:16.50 | ^Migs^ | agreed, sjansen |
| 21:16.56 | ^Migs^ | ibot informed me of as much |
| 21:17.04 | ^Migs^ | yet it let me do it anyway, go fig |
| 21:17.06 | sjansen | ~karma ^Migs^ |
| 21:17.06 | ibot | ^migs^ has karma of 1 |
| 21:17.20 | ^Migs^ | ~^Migs^-- |
| 21:17.31 | ^Migs^ | ~karma ^Migs^ |
| 21:17.31 | ibot | ^migs^ has karma of 1 |
| 21:17.32 | sjansen | What'd ibot think of that? |
| 21:17.35 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 21:17.38 | ^Migs^ | didn't like that either |
| 21:17.45 | ^Migs^ | maybe it didn't let me do it, and I was already karmaed |
| 21:17.47 | sjansen | ^migs^-- |
| 21:17.53 | sjansen | ~karma ^Migs^ |
| 21:17.54 | ibot | ^migs^ has karma of 1 |
| 21:18.04 | ^Migs^ | you forgot the ~ |
| 21:18.11 | sjansen | ~^migs^-- |
| 21:18.11 | ^Migs^ | ~sjansen-- |
| 21:18.11 | sjansen | ~karma ^Migs^ |
| 21:18.11 | ibot | ^migs^ has neutral karma |
| 21:18.23 | sjansen | Yup, looks like ibot is case stupid. |
| 21:18.38 | sjansen | ^Migs^ != ^migs^ == ^Migs^ |
| 21:19.09 | sjansen | Or not... guest I deserved that --. |
| 21:20.08 | ^Migs^ | ~karma mIgs |
| 21:20.08 | ibot | migs has neutral karma |
| 21:20.10 | ^Migs^ | ~karma migs |
| 21:20.10 | ibot | migs has neutral karma |
| 21:20.17 | ^Migs^ | wow, that's dumb |
| 21:23.50 | *** join/#utah redbeard1 (n=redbeard@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 21:23.59 | goozbach | brulee! |
| 21:24.02 | goozbach | bruce lee! |
| 21:24.06 | redbeard1 | ~brulee goozbach |
| 21:24.07 | ibot | ACTION whisks goozbach with eggs and cream, and bakes at 350F before sprinkling with sugar and torching |
| 21:24.13 | bonez39 | if I run a windows based ssh daemon.... on my win xppro box at home....shouldn't I be able to ssh to it....? I have port 22 forwarded to my linux box...I am just wondering if I can ssh to the linux box and then from there on to my win xp pro machine? |
| 21:25.18 | Tene | bonez39: that should work just fine |
| 21:25.44 | ^Migs^ | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070108/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_island |
| 21:28.13 | ^Migs^ | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070108/ap_on_fe_st/late_mail_delivery |
| 21:28.15 | levi | Whew, errands complete. |
| 21:30.01 | ^Migs^ | here's a pic of Sealand: http://www.metacolo.com/papers/dc11-havenco/photos/sealand-external-behind.jpg |
| 21:31.44 | Tene | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_mlwnAmr0 |
| 21:33.43 | *** join/#utah Supaplex (n=rfc1413@shell.aros.net) |
| 21:34.54 | goozbach | for some reason sealand reminds me of "The life aquatic" |
| 21:35.48 | herlo | Is there a PLUG ical (or some other compatible with google calendar) for the meetings? |
| 21:36.23 | Jayce^ | used to be... long ago |
| 21:37.08 | ^Migs^ | that's mildly funny |
| 21:39.15 | herlo | Jayce^: any plans for a new one? Can I help? |
| 21:40.40 | ^Migs^ | atoponce probably knows. He's a drupal pimp. |
| 21:41.28 | herlo | ^Migs^: tx, I'll ask him |
| 21:41.38 | atoponce | eh? |
| 21:42.28 | Tene | herlo: this is UT, not TX |
| 21:42.44 | herlo | Tene: understood, I'll not make that mistake again |
| 21:44.07 | herlo | Tene: UT |
| 21:44.39 | Tene | herlo: np |
| 21:45.01 | goozbach | ?? |
| 21:45.03 | UtahBot | ??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] |
| 21:45.18 | goozbach | ?? > goozbach |
| 21:45.19 | UtahBot | >[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 21:45.30 | goozbach | ?? hello |
| 21:45.31 | UtahBot | hello[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 21:45.38 | goozbach | defenition? |
| 21:45.44 | goozbach | ??defenition |
| 21:45.46 | Tene | ?? goozbach |
| 21:45.47 | UtahBot | goozbach[x]: No defenition found for word. |
| 21:46.03 | Jayce^ | herlo, ask rsimpkins |
| 21:46.09 | goozbach | know defenintion found four werd |
| 21:46.25 | *** join/#utah harleypig (n=harleypi@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 21:46.33 | goozbach | rsimpkins: defenition? |
| 21:47.15 | atoponce | hmmm. i may need to change the command for that |
| 21:47.34 | atoponce | i'm not too fond of that script anyway. maybe i'll just take it out |
| 21:47.34 | Tene | ibot: spell defenition |
| 21:49.58 | goozbach | defecation! |
| 21:50.21 | Tene | UtahBot is obscene! |
| 21:50.24 | herlo | Jayce^: will do |
| 21:51.28 | atoponce | Tene: ? |
| 22:11.44 | maquis | hmmm... i suppose i should eat at some point |
| 22:12.15 | levi | http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0018833813.1168235300@@@@&BV_EngineID=cdccaddjkllkmklcefecemldffidfki.0&adCell=P3&pid=00921754000&vertical=TOOL&ihtoken=1 |
| 22:12.29 | levi | Sweet, a CNC woodworking router at Sears! |
| 22:21.39 | macnewbold | nice! |
| 22:22.01 | levi | This is awesome: http://www.geostationarybananaovertexas.com/en.html |
| 22:40.12 | atoponce | how would i edit /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 22:40.54 | levi | With your favorite editor? |
| 22:41.31 | atoponce | well, the file says that it is dynamically created. so i assume i run a command to change it, but i'm struggling to find it |
| 22:41.53 | atoponce | # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) |
| 22:41.53 | atoponce | # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN |
| 22:41.53 | atoponce | nameserver 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:49.52 | dataw0lf | atoponce: what distro are you using? |
| 22:50.03 | atoponce | nevermind. i found it |
| 22:50.04 | atoponce | ubuntu |
| 22:50.09 | dataw0lf | thought so |
| 22:50.12 | dataw0lf | bunch of retards |
| 22:50.33 | dataw0lf | DMG: NO /ETC FILE SHALL BE WRITTEN TO DYNAMICALLY BY A PACKAGE |
| 22:50.45 | dataw0lf | argh, Ubuntu maintainers |
| 22:51.34 | atoponce | i just cant get my jabber server to communicate to other jabber servers, and i thought it may have something to do with my hostname/resolvconf |
| 22:53.27 | dataw0lf | doubtful. |
| 23:04.08 | findlay | atoponce: you want to change /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 23:04.55 | findlay | option-domain-name-servers |
| 23:05.05 | findlay | s/option-/option / |
| 23:05.31 | findlay | dataw0lf: RH distros do the same with /etc/resolv.conf |
| 23:05.47 | findlay | in fact I thought every dhcp cliend did |
| 23:06.00 | dataw0lf | findlay: I'm not talking about RH. I'm talking about Debian standards. |
| 23:06.05 | findlay | just like ntp overwrites some of its etc files |
| 23:06.12 | findlay | oh, I see |
| 23:07.18 | atoponce | ok. dumb question: how do you make /etc/hostname take effect? |
| 23:07.47 | herlo | atoponce: if you want your hostname to change right now use 'hostname your.host.name' |
| 23:08.52 | atoponce | herlo: thx |
| 23:09.08 | unum | or you could just run bash :{ |
| 23:09.10 | unum | :) |
| 23:09.33 | findlay | atoponce: there's two places where ubuntu puts the DN and I forgot all about it |
| 23:09.46 | findlay | still can't remember or remember why there's two |
| 23:09.50 | findlay | annoying, really |
| 23:10.05 | herlo | findlay: it's because networking needs it and so does the machine, but I agree, they could just both use the same |
| 23:10.16 | atoponce | driving me nuts. ejabberd shouldn't be this difficlut. if i can't get it soon, i'm trying another software |
| 23:10.53 | findlay | herlo: is it in /etc/networking or /etc/network/<something>? |
| 23:10.58 | dataw0lf | no. |
| 23:11.08 | findlay | where? |
| 23:11.15 | herlo | findlay: that's on redhat |
| 23:11.19 | findlay | tell us dataw0lf. I am all in a stupor |
| 23:11.21 | dataw0lf | no, that's Debian. |
| 23:11.26 | herlo | findlay /etc/networking |
| 23:11.27 | dataw0lf | /etc/networking/*, that is |
| 23:12.17 | herlo | on RH its in /etc/sysconfig/network (I misspoke) |
| 23:12.51 | dataw0lf | yea, /etc/network is Debian, I'm retarded today |
| 23:13.06 | dataw0lf | I have no idea where else you'd put the DN /etc/hostname |
| 23:13.25 | dataw0lf | /etc/hosts, for some reason? That seems retarded, and it's not Debian. |
| 23:13.28 | findlay | and you have to specify it in /etc/hosts to right? |
| 23:13.41 | dataw0lf | hosts is just for ip / host local mapping |
| 23:13.50 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.54 | herlo | dataw0lf: some UNICES require it in /etc/hosts, but I don't think Linux does |
| 23:13.57 | findlay | just like /etc/fstab I thought |
| 23:14.16 | dataw0lf | Solaris may require it, I can't remember, no other Unices I've run into do. |
| 23:14.22 | findlay | and you have to specify the DN once more for dhcp too |
| 23:15.01 | herlo | dataw0lf: since Solaris was my main OS at my last job, I'd say that it IS one |
| 23:15.17 | findlay | heh |
| 23:15.40 | dataw0lf | well, Tru64 and HP-UX were the main OSes at my last job, and they didn't require it |
| 23:15.44 | dataw0lf | and I don't think Irix does either. |
| 23:15.52 | herlo | I think AIX might |
| 23:16.05 | dataw0lf | it may. |
| 23:17.15 | dataw0lf | it's a remnant of SysV and their DNS system, that's why I remember being surprised Tru64 4.0f didn't require it, since it's a dinosaur in every other aspect. |
| 23:19.55 | herlo | dataw0lf: gross!! |
| 23:20.04 | findlay | ~pbr |
| 23:20.08 | herlo | dataw0lf: don't drink that urine water |
| 23:20.12 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 23:20.16 | herlo | findlay: Pabst Blue Ribbon |
| 23:20.23 | dataw0lf | I haven't had PBR since high school |
| 23:20.24 | dataw0lf | I feel dirty |
| 23:20.28 | herlo | dataw0lf: I bet |
| 23:20.34 | dataw0lf | gotta get ready for the BCS championship, though |
| 23:20.53 | herlo | dataw0lf: that's what stores are for... |
| 23:21.00 | herlo | of course, you shouldn't drive now |
| 23:21.51 | dataw0lf | I'm at the office anyway |
| 23:21.57 | dataw0lf | yea, I was about to go make a run and the gf stopped me |
| 23:22.05 | herlo | good for her |
| 23:22.08 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 23:22.09 | herlo | :) |
| 23:22.17 | dataw0lf | shouldn't be driving even with just a couple drinks in me |
| 23:22.19 | herlo | she sober? |
| 23:22.26 | herlo | if so, send her |
| 23:22.30 | dataw0lf | but I was trying to justify it by saying there was a gas station down the road |
| 23:22.33 | dataw0lf | yea, she refuses |
| 23:22.36 | dataw0lf | so I sent a jr programmer |
| 23:22.50 | herlo | nice |
| 23:23.33 | mrpull_ | drinking at the office? |
| 23:24.02 | herlo | mrpull_ in some states it's not completely illegal |
| 23:24.24 | rsimpkins | herlo: Hi. You wanna make a calander? |
| 23:24.30 | herlo | rsimpkins: sure |
| 23:24.45 | rsimpkins | herlo: We use drupal. I'm not sure, but there may be a plugin that does what you want. |
| 23:24.53 | mrpull | legal is one thing... advisable is another :) |
| 23:24.56 | herlo | rsimpkins: yeah, I know |
| 23:25.00 | rsimpkins | herlo: If you'd like to search around a bit and see, that would be cool. |
| 23:25.19 | dataw0lf | mrpull: we hire people who can control themselves. |
| 23:25.19 | herlo | rsimpkins: will do, I was going to email you tonight anyway, but maybe I'll do it tomorrow |
| 23:25.27 | dataw0lf | you know, self responsiblity and all that. |
| 23:25.31 | herlo | mrpull: I think it's all a matter of opinion |
| 23:25.36 | rsimpkins | herlo: Sure, I'm happy to take any feedback at all. |
| 23:26.15 | dataw0lf | really helps the atmosphere here when your team can just sit back and have a beer |
| 23:26.47 | herlo | rsimpkins: cool, will do |
| 23:45.58 | mrpull | i think having a drink with coworkers at a restaurant or bar is cool... but I don't like the idea of drinks at the office |
| 23:46.40 | herlo | mrpull: thus my comment about opinion |
| 23:47.27 | mrpull | fair enough. i'm not preaching, just sharing my opinion :) |
| 23:48.34 | mrpull | anybody use a Slingbox? |
| 23:48.58 | mrpull | i got gadget envy the other night when I saw somebody playing with the pocketpc client |
| 23:49.06 | herlo | mrpull: I saw one last year at CES |
| 23:49.12 | herlo | they're nicer this year |
| 23:49.23 | mrpull | the price is pretty reasonable |
| 23:49.34 | mrpull | tho i'd like to see the pocket pc client included in the price |
| 23:49.46 | mrpull | i dunno if EDGE speeds are fast enough for my desires |
| 23:52.16 | herlo | EDGE is fast, but not as fast as EV-DO |
| 23:52.42 | mrpull | edge is provided "free" by my employer |
| 23:52.59 | herlo | mrpull: well no arguing that |
| 23:53.52 | mrpull | i suppose i'll hand-down my Cingular 8125 to my next newhire |
| 23:53.57 | mrpull | and get the 8525 |
| 23:54.13 | mrpull | but i don't know the status of the next-gen network in SLC anyway |
| 23:58.42 | mrpull | looks like the 3G stuff is in SL County but not south of the point of the mountain |
| 23:58.46 | mrpull | interesting |
