| 00:00.22 | [phoenyx] | yeah |
| 00:01.07 | [phoenyx] | I learned gopher in high school. my buddy was into this thing called the world wide web, but I knew gopher was better :) |
| 00:02.30 | sjansen | At least you had a choice. I had to surf the web using pine. |
| 00:03.07 | sjansen | Then my BBS added SLIP and I got to beta test it. |
| 00:03.51 | sjansen | Killed the community, but made it so much easier to find Future Basic examples. |
| 00:05.25 | dataw0lf | I remember surfing with pine |
| 00:05.33 | sjansen | ("Don't waste your money" he said. "C++ is a dying fad" he said. Stupid sales person. Should've known that if he knew anything about programming he wouldn't be working as a sales person.) |
| 00:05.35 | dataw0lf | and I'm not an old fogie like sjansen |
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| 00:14.01 | elg | -lart goozbach |
| 00:14.23 | elg | tensai: ping |
| 00:14.41 | tensai | elg: pong, but I have to leave soon |
| 00:15.35 | harleypig | money makes the world go around ... the world go around ... the world go around ... that jingling jangling sound ... money money money money money money money |
| 00:16.06 | elg | tensai: xmission is pulling out of NM and transferring us over to zianet, but I'm not home to make the transition |
| 00:16.28 | elg | so unless I have some remote cisco modem administration fu with me early in the morning, I'll be relying on your backup mail server |
| 00:16.29 | tensai | elg: ooh, that ain't good |
| 00:16.33 | elg | to do its backup thing |
| 00:16.45 | tensai | it should be working |
| 00:17.00 | tensai | the server is clearly up or I wouldn't be in this channel |
| 00:17.01 | elg | k, cool |
| 00:17.30 | tensai | elg: I've done these sort of dsl conversions before. the ciscos are the worst for it. |
| 00:17.50 | tensai | can you telnet to it at all? |
| 00:19.22 | elg | i should be able to |
| 00:19.30 | elg | unless my serial cable came out |
| 00:19.40 | elg | the primary concern is me messing up my one chance |
| 00:20.20 | elg | i have to both change the modem settings (from bridging to pppoa), and set my server to not do pppoe but use a static ip address |
| 00:20.25 | elg | a delicate dance that's sure to fail |
| 00:23.23 | elg | yeah, I have minicom access |
| 00:24.39 | tensai | elg: when? |
| 00:34.34 | atoponce | how can i display my mail users who can accept mail for a certain domain? |
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| 00:40.54 | bonez39 | something changed my menu.lst...and now my 2.6.8 kernel won't boot, though it exists at /boot/... but no reference exists to it in menu.lst |
| 00:42.44 | bonez39 | anyone? |
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| 00:50.40 | elg | tensai: en la mañana |
| 00:50.43 | elg | 7-8am |
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| 01:10.08 | levi | Cool, Aphex Twin has a track on the Marie Antoinette OST in which he plays the prepared piano. |
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| 01:40.32 | redbeard2 | i seem to be having problems with my eth0 interface |
| 01:41.18 | redbeard2 | i'm trying to connect to my linksys router via the ethernet cable, but i don't think eth0 is configured properly on my notebook |
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| 04:21.24 | tensai | levi, elg: good news. turns out I'm just nearly inept at jump starting. I got it going on second try. |
| 04:21.48 | levi_home | tensai: Nice. :) |
| 04:22.02 | levi_home | tensai: Did it hold the charge? |
| 04:22.33 | tensai | levi_home: I let it run for about 30 minutes and then went to the store. it started back up when I came out. |
| 04:22.56 | levi_home | I killed my car battery, jump started it, drove it for half an hour or so, let it sit for a couple of hours, and it wouldn't start. |
| 04:23.39 | levi_home | Mmm, pigeon pot pie. |
| 04:25.12 | tensai | I guess we'll see tomorrow morning |
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| 06:23.04 | elg | oh man, this is not looking good |
| 06:23.26 | elg | it's going to take a perfect expect script on the first run to not leave my server stranded |
| 06:53.26 | Tene | elg: clarify "stranded"? |
| 06:54.04 | Tene | if it's possible to restore functional settings in a scripted way, use 'at' to schedule that to happen in, say, 10 minutes. or so |
| 06:54.10 | Tene | then run your expect script |
| 06:54.23 | Tene | and if your box is still up, log in again and remove the at job |
| 06:57.35 | elg | as in I'm in utah and the modem and server are in new mexico |
| 06:57.57 | elg | your idea is good, if I can figure out how to do that |
| 06:58.46 | Tene | echo "sh /path/to/script" | at now + 10 minutes |
| 06:58.51 | Tene | and use 'atrm' to clear it. |
| 06:58.55 | elg | that's not the hard part |
| 06:58.58 | Tene | oh |
| 06:59.09 | Tene | But that's the part I know how to do without learning more about the situation. |
| 06:59.28 | elg | i need to reconfigure my cisco 678 |
| 06:59.42 | elg | I get one shot. if I fail, I have to fix it when I get home on Monday |
| 06:59.43 | Tene | ahh |
| 06:59.51 | Tene | why do you need to do it now? |
| 07:00.01 | elg | xmission is handing me off to zianet in the morning |
| 07:00.05 | Tene | ahh |
| 07:00.40 | nick125_lappy | elg: Ah, that sounds like fun :/ |
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| 08:34.28 | Tene | http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.ca/evolutionshigh.mov |
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| 14:10.45 | elg | well I hope that works |
| 14:14.44 | redbeard1 | ~lart goozbach |
| 14:15.52 | elg | everyone cross your fingers |
| 14:16.06 | redbeard1 | why? |
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| 14:29.36 | goozbach | abrulee |
| 14:29.56 | goozbach | what did I ever do? |
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| 14:33.12 | nick125_lappy | elg: what are we crossing our fingers for again? |
| 14:33.23 | nick125_lappy | Thu Jan 4 00:33:09 MST 2007 |
| 14:33.25 | nick125_lappy | meh, I should fix that |
| 14:33.48 | nick125_lappy | there, much better |
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| 15:18.43 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 15:19.21 | ^Migs^ | ~lart vontrapp |
| 15:19.29 | vontrapp | ~rlart |
| 15:19.32 | vontrapp | ~lart elg |
| 15:23.05 | vontrapp | elg: it's not even weekend yet |
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| 15:33.27 | elg | the switchover was this morning |
| 15:33.39 | nick125_lappy | elg: did it work? |
| 15:33.58 | elg | nope |
| 15:34.04 | elg | unless they haven't finished the dsl transition yet |
| 15:36.46 | dataw0lf | http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-elections-utl |
| 15:38.21 | nick125_lappy | elg: you could call into qwest and ask |
| 15:38.25 | nick125_lappy | but, they are basically worthless |
| 15:38.51 | nick125_lappy | if you call in the morning though, you get a decently intelligent person though (I've gotten people that actually know what interleaving is and such) |
| 15:40.16 | goozbach | time for some new headphones |
| 15:41.26 | redbeard1 | goozbach: what happened? |
| 15:45.15 | tristanbob | ok - anyone know how to burn xvids to a DVD? |
| 15:45.29 | elg | tristanbob: yes |
| 15:45.37 | tristanbob | do tell |
| 15:46.10 | elg | you need ffmpeg, dvdauthor, a recent mkisofs and some way to burn an image |
| 15:46.39 | goozbach | my current headphones are fraying on the cord |
| 15:46.45 | goozbach | they still work |
| 15:47.03 | goozbach | just have a bunch of the outside insluator is broken |
| 15:47.40 | tensai | elg: the conversions have to be done one at a time by qwest, so if they had a lot of them it might be a few hours between when you drop and when you come back up |
| 15:47.49 | tensai | elg: a lot of modems require a reboot before they work again |
| 15:47.58 | elg | 678? |
| 15:48.19 | jsmith | elg: Usually, but not always |
| 15:48.41 | tensai | but if xmission had a lot of customers in NM, they probably wouldn't have pulled out |
| 15:49.06 | elg | the xmission email said "These |
| 15:49.06 | elg | the xmission email said "migrations will begin at 7 A.M. and should be completed by 8 A.M. the |
| 15:49.12 | elg | same day." |
| 15:49.17 | elg | odd |
| 15:49.31 | elg | but sure, it could take longer |
| 15:49.47 | tensai | sounds like about 200-300 subscribers to me, based on how fast we've been able to do them |
| 15:49.50 | elg | i don't know when I dropped, because I had to change the settings remotely before they dropped me |
| 15:50.09 | tensai | something could have come up. something always does. |
| 15:50.13 | tensai | ~lart something |
| 15:50.14 | elg | yeah |
| 15:50.22 | nick125_lappy | in NM, I heard xmission only had a handful of accounts |
| 15:50.24 | elg | i'm holding out an ounce of hope |
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| 15:51.24 | tensai | we did iirc 1200 in 5 hours. only about 85% or so came back up automagically |
| 15:51.35 | tensai | elg: when will you be back? |
| 15:51.43 | elg | monday |
| 15:52.00 | tensai | my dsl was down for 3 days because I was in Portland when they did the change |
| 15:53.04 | tensai | your new isp would be able to tell you if your modem is trained up. not much they can do to force it though. |
| 15:54.03 | nick125_lappy | tensai: if the circuit is still trained with the previous provider, it would show up on the new provider as synced but not authenticating with their PPP servers |
| 15:54.11 | nick125_lappy | because qwest would still show the circuit as up |
| 15:54.12 | elg | jsmith: no good. I have a ups |
| 15:54.24 | elg | which is why I didn't leave a key with anyone :) |
| 15:54.45 | nick125_lappy | you could have someone break the door down to restart your modem |
| 15:56.42 | nick125_lappy | that wouldn't exactly work though |
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| 16:22.15 | ^Migs^ | nice woot: http://www.woot.com/ |
| 16:23.17 | tristanbob | ^Migs^: stop encouraging my over-spending habits! |
| 16:23.46 | ^Migs^ | you can even get an optional monthly subscription for remote access. I wonder what that entails. |
| 16:23.52 | ^Migs^ | it seems you could just RDC/VNC into your computer and get the same thing. |
| 16:24.55 | tristanbob | elg: ever used transcode to convert xvid to DVD? |
| 16:25.07 | tristanbob | I'm hoping to find something that can do it in one step :) |
| 16:25.29 | ^Migs^ | I've done that with Nero Vision |
| 16:25.41 | ^Migs^ | but uh, not transcode |
| 16:25.47 | ^Migs^ | which is probably why you weren't asking me |
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| 16:25.51 | tristanbob | opensource dude |
| 16:26.03 | ^Migs^ | dude... |
| 16:26.17 | dataw0lf | where's my GPL? |
| 16:26.24 | tristanbob | :) |
| 16:26.30 | jsmith | WoodsDog! |
| 16:26.42 | dataw0lf | http://www.businessreviewonline.com/os/archives/2007/01/mysql_changes_l.html |
| 16:26.44 | WoodsDog | hey jsmith...how's life? |
| 16:27.02 | jsmith | WoodsDog: Great! How's life for you? |
| 16:27.34 | WoodsDog | enjoyed xmas vacation too much...trying to get life started again |
| 16:28.04 | jsmith | WoodsDog: Great! You stick around Utah, or fly back to KC? |
| 16:28.20 | WoodsDog | i was in kc for the week..it was fun |
| 16:29.54 | jsmith | WoodsDog: Nice... |
| 16:31.09 | redbeard1 | i'll let somebody else blog about this, but i thought it was kind of cool: http://www.business-opportunities.biz/projects/how-much-is-your-blog-worth/ |
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| 17:00.33 | [phoenyx] | KC = Kansas City? |
| 17:11.16 | WoodsDog | [phoenyx], yup |
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| 17:12.51 | [phoenyx] | cool, I served my mission there |
| 17:13.29 | WoodsDog | oh yeah? independence? |
| 17:13.35 | [phoenyx] | yup |
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| 17:13.43 | WoodsDog | did you know the bread man? |
| 17:14.00 | [phoenyx] | brother ulrich(sp?)? |
| 17:14.06 | WoodsDog | that's him |
| 17:14.46 | [phoenyx] | yeah, he was in a ward I served in and we'd do laundry at his house |
| 17:14.57 | WoodsDog | that's sweet |
| 17:15.04 | WoodsDog | those are my grandparents |
| 17:15.08 | [phoenyx] | really? |
| 17:15.14 | WoodsDog | yup |
| 17:16.02 | WoodsDog | wow..small world |
| 17:16.34 | WoodsDog | you've probably seen my picture on their fridge :) |
| 17:17.16 | [phoenyx] | did you grow up in KC then? |
| 17:17.55 | WoodsDog | yeah |
| 17:18.02 | WoodsDog | i lived out by the airport |
| 17:18.09 | [phoenyx] | what part? independence? |
| 17:18.22 | WoodsDog | but my grandparents always lived in independence |
| 17:18.31 | WoodsDog | out by barry road |
| 17:19.31 | [phoenyx] | is that north? |
| 17:19.56 | [phoenyx] | by liberty maybe? |
| 17:20.07 | WoodsDog | platte woods |
| 17:20.11 | [phoenyx] | okay |
| 17:20.34 | [phoenyx] | it's been about 8 years since I've been there |
| 17:21.11 | WoodsDog | i understand that... |
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| 18:05.12 | goozbach | freaking cool? or uber scary? http://scienceblogs.com/loom/2006/02/02/the_wisdom_of_parasites.php |
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| 18:09.19 | bonez39 | My video card is getting flaky...changing color...and drawing irritating lines vertically...at 1024x768.... What are some video card names to watch for ....so that linux will work fine with them? |
| 18:09.53 | bonez39 | suggestions? |
| 18:10.08 | phinux | Are you sure it isn't just to monitor? |
| 18:10.20 | phinux | s/to/the |
| 18:11.03 | jsmith | bonez39: Check your monitor cable... I've seen a bad cable or bad connection do that a lot |
| 18:12.08 | bonez39 | phinux, well, if I switch to a lower resolution...it's fine, no flickering, no lines........no color shifting... |
| 18:12.18 | bonez39 | but it is not a brand new monitor...I guess it could be getting old.... |
| 18:12.55 | bonez39 | August 1997....manufacture date for the monitor.....;) |
| 18:13.30 | phinux | I know with my old monitor I have to have the cable attached just right. And on my labtop monitor there's one pixel that won't render. |
| 18:14.34 | bonez39 | well, it's working ok now....it is probably the monitor.... |
| 18:15.02 | bonez39 | could the monitor cause it to not work at higher resolutions? straining the CTR guns? |
| 18:17.04 | phinux | I'm not a monitor expert. But before you go buy a new video card, I'd at least borrow someone else's monitor and see if the problem persists. |
| 18:19.44 | levi | http://www.ironicsans.com/2007/01/celebrity_patents.html |
| 18:20.38 | bonez39 | ah, it's back at it now...I want to upgrade anyway...to a flatscreen...maybe it's time to upgrade the office equipment..hehe |
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| 19:24.24 | ^Migs^ | why do Indians always have the most retardedly long screennames on IM? |
| 19:24.50 | ^Migs^ | like "Nickname: borta, hpnotiq 0735731775¯¯²¬» Dènîś «¬ -> | - Semper Fidelis Angelinho | - Club Hpnotiq! -" |
| 19:24.55 | ^Migs^ | I mean, seriously, wth? |
| 19:25.04 | ^Migs^ | then I have to see that each time they type something to me |
| 19:26.08 | levi | I suggest you /ignore anyone with a nick that says things in a channel you frequent or sends a /msg to you. |
| 19:26.40 | ^Migs^ | that's a ridiculous idea. How else would I talk to the fine people in here? |
| 19:27.23 | Tene | ^Migs^: get an IM client that supports aliases. |
| 19:27.34 | Tene | like gaim or kopete |
| 19:30.32 | ^Migs^ | that IS his alias |
| 19:30.45 | ^Migs^ | and I AM using gaim |
| 19:30.46 | findlay-w | wow, wonder what the real thing is |
| 19:31.09 | ^Migs^ | it must be an Injun thing, to have long aliases |
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| 19:35.24 | levi | ^Migs^: I meant people with nicks you don't want to see. |
| 19:37.34 | levi | Geez, what's with Bush and his signing statements on bills? |
| 19:38.29 | levi | "I'm going to sign this bill into law, but just so you know, I'm going to feel free to ignore certain provisions when I think it's justified!" |
| 19:38.50 | findlay-w | heh, whatever |
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| 20:22.42 | Tene | ^Migs^: right-click, alias |
| 20:22.53 | Tene | enter "joe" in the dialog that pops up |
| 20:23.00 | findlay-w | why joe? |
| 20:23.18 | findlay-w | ^Migs^: enter "george" |
| 20:23.19 | Tene | Because I'm hungry. |
| 20:23.38 | maquis | so, what does that do to tab-complete? |
| 20:25.11 | findlay-w | it eats it |
| 20:25.16 | findlay-w | because Tene is hungry |
| 20:25.23 | Tene | Exactly. |
| 20:25.45 | maquis | ah... right |
| 20:26.43 | Tene | ~lart ^Migs^ |
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| 20:29.39 | maquis | ibot: get over it.. he's married |
| 20:31.35 | findlay-w | crema burlee? |
| 20:31.50 | macnewbold | cream burley |
| 20:32.10 | Tene | cram barley |
| 20:32.33 | findlay-w | burly crumbs |
| 20:34.39 | macnewbold | barley crumb |
| 20:34.58 | macnewbold | doh |
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| 20:35.18 | goozbach | gnarls barkley |
| 20:35.19 | macnewbold | burly! |
| 20:35.32 | goozbach | speaking of burly, look who just walked in |
| 20:35.36 | macnewbold | snarls barely |
| 20:35.40 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | Alright, who ordered the snow? |
| 20:35.41 | goozbach | sjansen: three days in a row? |
| 20:35.52 | macnewbold | ~weather kslc |
| 20:35.53 | goozbach | SNOW!? |
| 20:35.56 | goozbach | yay! |
| 20:36.06 | goozbach | I'll get to see snow tomorrow |
| 20:36.15 | findlay-w | ~snow on goozbach |
| 20:36.26 | goozbach | yay! |
| 20:36.45 | goozbach | it just rains here |
| 20:36.45 | goozbach | lots and lots of rain |
| 20:36.46 | goozbach | and fog |
| 20:36.47 | macnewbold | -weather kslc |
| 20:36.48 | goozbach | and rain |
| 20:36.58 | macnewbold | ~seen brac |
| 20:37.23 | ibot | brac <n=rbot@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 15d 22h 23m 40s ago, saying: '21 minutes ago, on Tue Dec 19 21:53:00 UTC 2006, the wind was blowing at a speed of 4.12 meters per second (9.21 miles per hour) from the South/Southwest at KSAF. The temperature was -0.6 degrees Celsius (30.9 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1014 ... |
| 20:37.25 | goozbach | ~weather wtlh |
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| 20:38.39 | Supaplex_ | ~weather earth |
| 20:38.44 | Supaplex_ | :P |
| 20:39.59 | findlay-w | ~whether |
| 20:42.41 | findlay-w | ~whalenuke weather |
| 20:49.11 | macnewbold | ~weather kzlc |
| 20:49.26 | macnewbold | ~weather kmtx |
| 20:49.33 | sjansen | ~wheather ibot |
| 20:50.57 | goozbach | ~weather ktlh |
| 20:51.16 | goozbach | misty misty |
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| 20:58.15 | goozbach | smithy smithy |
| 20:59.19 | goozbach | jsmith: try those specfiles yet? |
| 20:59.48 | jsmith | goozbach: Yeah, briefly... mostly the zaptel one. Didn't have time to do much with the asterisk one |
| 21:03.45 | sjansen | ~hogtie goozbach |
| 21:09.14 | goozbach | zaptel is in extras now!? |
| 21:09.19 | goozbach | wha?! |
| 21:09.34 | jsmith | WHAT?!? |
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| 21:10.16 | jsmith | Last I heard, the Fedora Extras guys wanted them to get the zaptel kernel modules into the upstream kernel first. |
| 21:10.39 | goozbach | I just did a yum update |
| 21:10.42 | goozbach | and it came down |
| 21:10.45 | goozbach | I know |
| 21:10.51 | findlay-w | was it yummy? |
| 21:11.09 | jsmith | Well I'll be.... uh, well.... surprised. |
| 21:11.20 | goozbach | upset! |
| 21:11.33 | goozbach | I wanted to corner the market on zaptel and asterisk rpms |
| 21:11.39 | goozbach | gotta move fast! |
| 21:12.17 | jsmith | You snooze and some open source hacker will steal all your glory! |
| 21:13.05 | jsmith | Not only that, but they're 1.4 RPMS :-) |
| 21:18.29 | goozbach | quick everybody! use these rpms: http://mirror.neverblock.com/community/asterisk/ |
| 21:19.58 | Tene | goo: but those are in extras... why should I use those instead? |
| 21:20.09 | goozbach | asterisk isn't in extras |
| 21:20.17 | goozbach | ... YET |
| 21:20.27 | goozbach | bah, forgot to sign them |
| 21:20.36 | goozbach | DRAT! my laptop is at home unplugged |
| 21:20.48 | goozbach | cant get to my prikey |
| 21:21.14 | goozbach | don't tell me that the last three days work have been in vain. |
| 21:27.02 | *** part/#utah phinux (n=phinux@iocane.cs.byu.edu) |
| 21:27.59 | jsmith | goozbach: Of course they have ;-) |
| 21:28.26 | goozbach | drat |
| 21:28.36 | goozbach | no! no they haven't |
| 21:28.47 | goozbach | cause I've been honing my rpmbuilding skills |
| 21:29.08 | goozbach | and if fedora extras won't take my packages, then I know that CAOS will! |
| 21:29.10 | goozbach | buhahahahah |
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| 21:55.27 | ^Migs^ | could someone go to www.wsdinfo.net and tell me if there's a weird orange bar that says "User Details" above the login box? |
| 21:55.33 | ^Migs^ | I think I have a caching problem |
| 22:01.41 | sjansen | I don't see anything like that. |
| 22:18.10 | ^Migs^ | okay great, thanks |
| 22:22.29 | Supaplex | looks fine in lynx. |
| 22:22.44 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 22:29.46 | Jayce^ | oooh, critical failure |
| 22:30.48 | ^Migs^ | does lynx preserve the orangy hue on the background? |
| 22:30.54 | ^Migs^ | and do you see rounded corners and stuff? |
| 22:33.29 | ^Migs^ | the site sure is.....orange. |
| 22:33.33 | ^Migs^ | Better than what it used to be, though |
| 22:37.25 | ^Migs^ | looks nice in Epiphany too |
| 22:37.27 | ^Migs^ | It's just stupid IE |
| 22:37.33 | ^Migs^ | I don't know why that surprises me anymoer |
| 22:42.11 | dataw0lf | aww, IE isn't that bad |
| 22:42.14 | dataw0lf | it has.... |
| 22:42.16 | dataw0lf | um |
| 22:42.19 | dataw0lf | well |
| 22:42.23 | dataw0lf | security holes, for one |
| 22:42.37 | dataw0lf | I'm sure Microsoft would be glad to explain how they're really features |
| 22:42.51 | goozbach | yay! done for the week! |
| 22:42.53 | Tene | So does FireFox. I haven't heard of any vulns for Opera, though... |
| 22:43.19 | goozbach | now to do my laundry so I might catch my flight to snowlakecity |
| 22:43.29 | dataw0lf | Tene: Really? |
| 22:43.32 | dataw0lf | http://www.frsirt.com/english/advisories/2006/1354 |
| 22:43.45 | dataw0lf | now THAT is a security hole |
| 22:43.45 | Tene | dataw0lf: I didn't say that they don't exist, just that I haven't heard of any. |
| 22:44.27 | dataw0lf | Tene: I think the main difference between IE and * is that Microsoft barely patches the thing, and when it does, they don't have nearly the same response time as * does |
| 22:44.52 | Tene | Yeah, something like that. |
| 22:46.40 | dataw0lf | there isn't much else to be said, disregarding Microsoft's inability to standardize |
| 22:46.56 | sjansen | Nobody bothers talking about Opera because it has like 0.0001% market penetration. |
| 22:47.06 | Tene | But it has a silly name. |
| 23:05.05 | levi | sjansen: According to a link someone posted here yesterday, Opera is also optimized for porn viewing. |
| 23:05.25 | ^Migs^ | I'm loving showing off my missile launcher |
| 23:15.38 | goozbach | NO! </sarcasim> |
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| 23:25.10 | atoponce | anyone know why thunderbird can connect to my mail server, but now pull down the messages using secure imap? |
| 23:25.54 | Tene | atoponce: ^Migs^ took it down so he'd get attention |
| 23:26.47 | atoponce | ^Migs^ is a lonely sort of chap, isn't he? |
| 23:28.02 | atoponce | and it looks like i need to renew my ssl certs |
| 23:34.48 | atoponce | hmmm. even if i use a proxy, and ssh tunneling, it still won't pull down the new messages |
| 23:35.19 | atoponce | mail servers are frustrating |
| 23:35.34 | jsmith | Anything in the mail log on the server? |
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| 23:38.07 | atoponce | nothing sticks out that i can see |
| 23:39.49 | atoponce | Jan 4 16:36:48 localhost postfix/smtpd[3982]: warning: support for restriction "check_relay_domains" will be removed from Postfix; use "reject_unauth_destination" instead |
| 23:40.07 | atoponce | i don't think that has anything to do with my problem, though |
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| 23:42.55 | atoponce | yeah. not seeing anything. it's gotta be something with imap |
| 23:49.34 | goozbach | *sigh* ally sheedy |
| 23:49.46 | goozbach | if only I were 7 years older |
| 23:51.13 | dataw0lf | <3 Ally Sheedy |
| 23:54.48 | atoponce | ok. so it's not my ssl certs that's causing the problem... |