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| 00:16.57 | harleypig | My hardware clock is correct, but my account reports incorrectly. Can anyone tell me how to fix it? I've tried replacing /etc/timezone with /usr/share/zoneinfo/[GMT|UTC] |
| 00:17.00 | harleypig | Do I need to restart a service after making these changes? |
| 00:21.52 | tlarson | did you log out/in ? |
| 00:22.13 | tlarson | i think there are environment variables that need to be updated |
| 00:23.50 | harleypig | well, I logged in via ssh localhost and didn't see any changes. |
| 00:34.01 | harleypig | Hmmm ... looks like I need to change both /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone |
| 00:34.51 | vontrapp | interesting, the umount segfault doesn't happen if i umount as root |
| 00:35.13 | harleypig | different umount? |
| 00:36.13 | vontrapp | don't think so |
| 00:36.56 | harleypig | weird |
| 00:37.52 | harleypig | rebooting for CS:S ... bye |
| 00:54.43 | tlarson | is it a permissions thing? You running a selinux distro? |
| 00:55.07 | vontrapp | nope, just plain ubuntu |
| 00:55.25 | tlarson | also, umount as non-root runs extra code to determine whether you have permission to umount that particular directory |
| 00:55.53 | unum | atoponce: are you really opposed to html email? |
| 00:55.59 | vontrapp | that's probably what it is then |
| 00:56.30 | tlarson | build from source and run it under gdb |
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| 02:19.46 | goozbach | how about that? a remake that doesn't suck |
| 02:20.40 | goozbach | the producers is pretty good |
| 02:29.04 | lars-ut | $115 for 160GB 2.5" External Drive USB 2.0 - anybody interested? |
| 02:29.21 | lars-ut | I should qualify that |
| 02:29.21 | lars-ut | I'm not the seller. |
| 02:38.34 | vontrapp | so how does one set the label for, say, vfat |
| 02:43.41 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 03:00.29 | vontrapp | does windows support hpfs? |
| 03:03.06 | vontrapp | bah |
| 03:03.10 | vontrapp | Read and write support was removed starting with Windows NT 4, as well as subsequent versions including Windows 2000. |
| 03:03.11 | macnewbold | no |
| 03:03.53 | vontrapp | windows 95 supported it |
| 03:04.45 | macnewbold | but that would validate Apple, they don't want to do that any more - admitting they have a competitor is bad, unless they're in a court of law trying to defend against antitrust |
| 03:05.26 | vontrapp | but microsoft _made_ hpfs |
| 03:10.39 | Sargun | HPFS? |
| 03:11.29 | vontrapp | high performance file system |
| 03:12.25 | Sargun | Was it really high performance? |
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| 03:14.52 | vontrapp | better than fat |
| 03:17.13 | macnewbold | oh, sorry, I'm thinking of HFS |
| 03:17.33 | macnewbold | HPFS =? Hewlett-Packard File System? |
| 03:17.36 | macnewbold | ~hpfs |
| 03:18.07 | macnewbold | "microsoft" and "high performance" don't belong together in the same sentence unless there's a negative attached to one of them |
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| 03:29.20 | Zelut | someone remind me the syntax to add a user to specific group? |
| 03:29.40 | Zelut | useradd -g group user? usermod -g group user? |
| 03:39.26 | vontrapp | Zelut: adduser user group |
| 03:40.01 | tlarson | i think it's something like "man useradd" |
| 03:40.52 | tlarson | it's -g <initial group> -G <additional groups> |
| 03:41.28 | vontrapp | i promise, 'adduser user group' is sufficient |
| 03:41.31 | Zelut | I think I screwed something up using usermod -G group user and removed myself from all but group. |
| 03:41.51 | tlarson | I always hand-edit the /etc/group file |
| 03:42.01 | tlarson | it's not complicated |
| 03:42.20 | Zelut | tlarson: just append user to the group, comma separated? |
| 03:42.35 | tlarson | ezackly. |
| 03:43.00 | Zelut | I don't suppose there is a simple way to re-add myself to the groups I was removed from? |
| 03:44.05 | tlarson | diff /etc/group /etc/group- |
| 03:45.03 | tlarson | assuming, of course, that you haven't made any other group changes since then |
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| 03:49.28 | Zelut | thank you |
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| 05:26.56 | goozbach | after spending the day reading the archives: http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autowb315.html |
| 05:30.46 | levi_home | goozbach: Heh. |
| 05:36.23 | goozbach | I'm into 2004 now |
| 05:36.28 | goozbach | and I need to sleep |
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| 05:42.36 | jbellis | is there a way to get nc -u to keep echoing udp packets after the first one? |
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| 05:54.29 | goozbach | dammit I need sleep |
| 06:17.27 | levi_home | goozbach: You still haven't stopped reading? |
| 06:33.46 | Tene | Ooo... this is impressive... |
| 06:34.04 | Tene | gaim is using 2G of mem |
| 06:35.06 | Tene | At least that's what I *thought* top said... |
| 06:49.48 | macnewbold | mine gets really hungry when I have several channels with lots of backscroll |
| 06:50.24 | Tene | top said '2g' in the 'swap' column |
| 06:50.34 | Tene | but swap usage didn't go away when I killed it. |
| 06:50.44 | macnewbold | my gaim is currently using 349M (size column) |
| 06:50.45 | Tene | looks like it was a combination of nautilus and beagled |
| 06:50.58 | macnewbold | like this? Swap: 2048M Total, 434M Used, 1614M Free, 21% Inuse |
| 06:51.12 | Tene | something like that, yeah |
| 06:51.14 | macnewbold | that's the total swap space in existence, then used/free/% |
| 06:51.33 | Tene | well, no, only gaim had that as the swap size |
| 06:51.57 | macnewbold | my top doesn't have a swap column for every process |
| 06:52.06 | Tene | gaim now has 570m for swap |
| 07:18.17 | goozbach | DONE! |
| 07:18.20 | goozbach | pheew |
| 07:18.31 | goozbach | goodnight |
| 07:18.34 | Tene | g'night |
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| 10:34.54 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:34.54 | Sargun | Mem: 1514 763 751 0 143 203 |
| 10:34.54 | Sargun | -/+ buffers/cache: 416 1098 |
| 10:34.54 | Sargun | Swap: 1963 2 1961 |
| 10:34.57 | Sargun | hi |
| 11:16.01 | Sargun | ? |
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| 13:47.51 | atoponce | unum: yes. i am |
| 14:18.54 | redbeard1 | mornin' ya'll |
| 14:19.49 | goozbach | good morning |
| 14:19.51 | goozbach | I think |
| 14:19.58 | goozbach | stupid howard taylor |
| 14:20.17 | goozbach | and stupid The Whiteboard |
| 14:20.28 | redbeard1 | heh |
| 14:20.32 | redbeard1 | new comic? |
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| 14:31.12 | goozbach | yeah |
| 14:31.20 | goozbach | didn't get to sleep till 3am |
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| 14:59.18 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 15:02.40 | goozbach | so tired! |
| 15:18.14 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 15:18.38 | vontrapp | ouch, now that's just irresponsible |
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| 15:50.47 | \^Migs^ | oo, I just sent the email I mentioned last week to my manager about the new guy, about how he's not doing crap and I'm having to cover for him |
| 15:51.06 | \^Migs^ | I hope this doesn't turn around and bite me in the butt somehow |
| 15:51.19 | \^Migs^ | like I'm being "too mean" or something |
| 15:51.45 | \^Migs^ | or how "sometimes we all have to work extra hours" |
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| 16:01.01 | goozbach | \^Migs^: what's with the lean? |
| 16:02.38 | \^Migs^ | \me was higher than me on the user list and I got jealous |
| 16:10.11 | goozbach | oh boy |
| 16:10.38 | *** mode/#utah [+o goozbach] by ChanServ |
| 16:10.57 | goozbach | hey cool, now I'm further up the list |
| 16:16.08 | elg | -lart goozbach |
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| 16:19.33 | elg | free cake |
| 16:19.35 | elg | sweet |
| 16:19.40 | elg | win 4 |
| 16:19.43 | elg | er |
| 16:19.52 | redbeard1 | mmm, free cake |
| 16:20.10 | elg | stupid iterm |
| 16:23.54 | \^Migs^ | not on Konversation |
| 16:24.18 | \^Migs^ | you just have more colored dots than I |
| 16:24.51 | goozbach | I want a pleo |
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| 16:28.26 | goozbach | maquis: it's very dificult |
| 16:28.29 | goozbach | but fun |
| 16:28.37 | maquis | goozbach: i'm sure... |
| 16:28.41 | goozbach | you see... you have to be very very fast |
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| 16:35.45 | Cleetus | -lart ibot |
| 16:42.41 | goozbach | somebody pre-order me a pleo |
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| 16:43.57 | atoponce | !orderfor goozbach a pleo |
| 16:44.30 | goozbach | ohh |
| 16:44.38 | goozbach | goody! |
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| 16:49.04 | \^Migs^ | http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=116975&ran=1596 |
| 16:49.11 | \^Migs^ | Pat Robertson's predictions for 2007 |
| 16:50.15 | goozbach | ohh |
| 16:50.35 | goozbach | ~nickometer [\^Migs^ |
| 16:50.44 | goozbach | cool |
| 16:51.06 | [\^Migs^ | wow, that's pretty lame |
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| 17:03.35 | levi | Morning. |
| 17:05.07 | goozbach | morning |
| 17:05.12 | goozbach | and a good one at that |
| 17:05.48 | maquis | ~lart morning |
| 17:06.10 | atoponce | ~perl maquis |
| 17:06.16 | ibot | ACTION forces ^Migs^ to use perl |
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| 17:06.53 | sjansen | http://bendiken.net/2007/01/01/the-road-to-lisp |
| 17:07.12 | sjansen | "Still, as Java could be described as the present-day COBOL, so PHP is essentially BASIC or Pascal for the web; if used in isolation, it will surely cripple the mind." |
| 17:08.31 | Jayce^ | nice on sjansen |
| 17:09.59 | maquis | ~lart java |
| 17:10.03 | maquis | ~lart tomcat |
| 17:10.32 | Cleetus | ~lart coldfusion |
| 17:12.14 | dataw0lf | maquis: rockbox |
| 17:12.42 | maquis | dataw0lf: why? |
| 17:13.44 | maquis | dataw0lf: as a side note, whichever one i pick, i'm hoping to get involved a bit in development |
| 17:14.38 | dataw0lf | maquis: I just prefer rockbox immensely, it's got quite a few features on a lot of archs. |
| 17:15.00 | maquis | dataw0lf: true... |
| 17:15.20 | maquis | what i'm seeing as the distinction is the question of what i want from my ipod |
| 17:15.47 | maquis | (i don't really care about non-ipod platforms since i've only got ipod)... |
| 17:16.03 | dataw0lf | I'm waiting to put ipodlinux on my Nano |
| 17:16.09 | dataw0lf | I got rockbox on my iriver |
| 17:16.27 | maquis | it seems like if you only want music, rockbox is better... |
| 17:16.37 | maquis | but ipodlinux has a whole lot of other apps |
| 17:17.14 | dataw0lf | true |
| 17:17.37 | maquis | although... both have doom :) |
| 17:17.51 | maquis | and i'm not quite certain what i'd do with a webserver and web browser on my ipod |
| 17:17.53 | maquis | :) |
| 17:17.59 | maquis | seeing as it doesn't have a net connection |
| 17:18.21 | dataw0lf | yea, but you'd have Python... |
| 17:18.27 | Sargun | Python is good. |
| 17:18.34 | maquis | true... and a basic interpreter too |
| 17:18.41 | maquis | and a nice shell |
| 17:19.04 | maquis | and a weird vim-ish editor |
| 17:19.05 | dataw0lf | yea, that's why I'm putting it on my nano :) |
| 17:19.11 | maquis | :) |
| 17:19.57 | maquis | the main downside to ipodlinux right now is that my current primary ipod is not yet really supported |
| 17:20.20 | maquis | although, at the same time, i kinda see that as an opportunity to get involved in development a bit |
| 17:20.22 | dataw0lf | yea, same here. |
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| 17:20.38 | findlay-w | uvsc is a joke |
| 17:20.49 | findlay-w | as exemplified by their 'website' |
| 17:22.57 | dataw0lf | everyone hear about the Beryl Project's website? |
| 17:23.13 | [phoenyx] | backups are important |
| 17:23.19 | dataw0lf | true that |
| 17:25.51 | maquis | dataw0lf: beryl project's website? |
| 17:26.29 | findlay-w | ~lart uvsc and their dinosour monstrosity "website" |
| 17:27.07 | sjansen | Educational institutions can hardly be judged by the quality of their Web site. |
| 17:27.33 | dataw0lf | maquis: got hacked and a bunch of tables were dropped |
| 17:27.35 | sjansen | In fact, I'd be surprised if many universities had well managed IT. The atmosphere just isn't right. |
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| 17:28.47 | sjansen | http://www.beryl-project.org/ |
| 17:29.13 | sjansen | Just as I thought, .php extensions. |
| 17:29.35 | sjansen | Probably simple SQL injection because of PHP's lousy DB API. |
| 17:29.43 | dataw0lf | please. |
| 17:29.51 | dataw0lf | it was a social engineering attack |
| 17:29.55 | dataw0lf | try again. |
| 17:29.56 | maquis | dataw0lf: ick... ugly |
| 17:30.15 | sjansen | Shoot, shoulda kept reading. |
| 17:30.15 | findlay-w | we have way too many engineers these days |
| 17:30.35 | sjansen | I stand by my position that PHP's DB API is brain dead. |
| 17:30.42 | Jayce^ | 'unpriveleged' yet still allowed to drop tables... |
| 17:30.53 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: across multiple databases, even |
| 17:31.11 | Jayce^ | "I do not think that word means what you think it means..." |
| 17:31.21 | dataw0lf | sjansen: I don't much like PHP's DB API either, but I fail to see where it has any serious flaws security wise |
| 17:31.23 | maquis | Jayce^: that's what i was thinking too |
| 17:31.28 | dataw0lf | unless you mean the programmers it attracts |
| 17:31.31 | sjansen | addslashes() |
| 17:31.38 | Jayce^ | stripslashes() |
| 17:31.51 | findlay-w | people who call themselves 'software engineers' as if there was such a thing and now this, 'social engineer'. Please. Leave the engineering to the people who know what real, hard science is |
| 17:32.05 | dataw0lf | it's a popular term, I didn't coin it's use. |
| 17:32.23 | findlay-w | I was being jokeful mostly |
| 17:32.29 | macnewbold | oh, good |
| 17:32.31 | sjansen | The fact that function even exists shows how poorly designed PHP is. |
| 17:32.42 | macnewbold | ~bonk sjansen |
| 17:32.46 | ibot | ACTION bonks sjansen over the head |
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| 17:34.19 | harleypig | http://mrjarchitects.com/MRJArchitects%20canyon%202.htm |
| 17:34.57 | harleypig | http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=442#more-442 |
| 17:35.09 | harleypig | "Consider that if one fell from such a height, one would have about twenty-five seconds? about a half minute? to enjoy the Grand Canyon's incredible scenery before impact." |
| 17:35.44 | harleypig | I wanna visit again ... I wonder what the rules are going to be about spitting off the edge. |
| 17:36.17 | harleypig | That time frame doesn't include fortuitous updrafts either ... |
| 17:36.35 | harleypig | Would that be enough time to reach terminal velocity? |
| 17:37.25 | levi | The peak velocity would be terminal for you, anyway. |
| 17:37.47 | harleypig | heh ... true |
| 17:38.44 | [\^Migs^ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=XPhKBIe3Pzw |
| 17:39.28 | maquis | ok... stupid question: if something gets output to the terminal, but it's not captured by stdout or stderr, what is it? |
| 17:40.06 | maquis | also, how does perl's db access layer prevent sql injection? |
| 17:41.33 | sjansen | Perl has several good DB API's. You'll have to wait for Perl lover to tell you which is currently most fashionable. |
| 17:41.51 | maquis | sjansen: cool... |
| 17:41.58 | maquis | any ideas on the other question? |
| 17:42.07 | harleypig | [\^Migs^: what was she supposed to have done? |
| 17:42.25 | goozbach | methinks, if I'm not behind the times it's Class:DBI |
| 17:42.28 | goozbach | methinks, if I'm not behind the times it's Class:DBIx |
| 17:42.39 | harleypig | it's DBIx |
| 17:42.41 | [\^Migs^ | just count down. Note how she skips numbers and jumps all around |
| 17:42.42 | levi | [\^Migs^: Shocker, some dumb TV star (probably also drunk) can't count backwards! |
| 17:42.51 | harleypig | Although DBI is still really good. |
| 17:43.01 | goozbach | I meant DBIx |
| 17:43.04 | harleypig | maquis: STDIN? |
| 17:43.08 | sjansen | $query = "select "+$_GET['field']+" from foo where "+$_GET['where'] <--- Classic PHP example, easiest SQL injection target. |
| 17:43.12 | goozbach | stupid shit key being by the enter key |
| 17:43.19 | harleypig | I don't see how, but those are the only three by default. |
| 17:43.21 | maquis | harleypig: nope... not stdin (i'm fairly certain) |
| 17:43.35 | harleypig | goozbach: I think you dropped the f there .... |
| 17:43.52 | harleypig | maquis: By any chance did you close STDOUT or STDERR? |
| 17:43.55 | levi | ~language goozbach ;) |
| 17:43.57 | ibot | ACTION grabs goozbach ;) by the ear and washes goozbach ;)'s mouth out with soap |
| 17:44.33 | maquis | harleypig: i'm redirecting stdout and stderr |
| 17:44.48 | maquis | but i'm not sure where some of the output is going |
| 17:44.58 | goozbach | ohh sorry |
| 17:44.59 | sjansen | maquis: I'd guess the app is manually opening the tty on another fd. Some version of the passwd command does something like this to try to get a more secure fd. |
| 17:45.09 | goozbach | sseems my "f" key is a little sticky |
| 17:45.12 | maquis | sjansen: weird... |
| 17:45.16 | goozbach | as is the s key |
| 17:46.13 | goozbach | catalyst in a repo would be nice |
| 17:46.24 | goozbach | ubuntu seems to have no problem doing it |
| 17:47.12 | harleypig | maquis: how are you redirecting them? |
| 17:47.42 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | Merry un-birthday to everyone! |
| 17:48.03 | harleypig | What if today is someone's birthday? |
| 17:48.26 | elg | it's "very merry unbirthday" |
| 17:48.38 | maquis | harleypig: i'm doing cmd 2>&1 and then |-ing to a grep that should catch a particular line, but it isn't |
| 17:49.01 | maquis | (all from inside a cgi script) |
| 17:50.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Today *is* someone's birthday. |
| 17:50.19 | Lone_Wanderer | It's JRR Tolkien's. |
| 17:50.24 | harleypig | so: `system( "cmd 2>&1 | grep ..."` |
| 17:50.31 | harleypig | or rather $a = `` |
| 17:50.40 | maquis | harleypig: yes... |
| 17:50.42 | macnewbold | maquis: sometimes it is a quoting issue that goofs up the grep... |
| 17:50.44 | harleypig | got a meeting ... be back in about an hour I think. |
| 17:50.50 | maquis | harleypig: thx for the help |
| 17:50.52 | Jayce^ | only harleypig would backtick a system() call.. |
| 17:50.53 | Lone_Wanderer | au revoir |
| 17:50.54 | maquis | i'll keep looking |
| 17:51.17 | harleypig | just a quick thought as I was getting up ... get rid of the grep and make sure all the expected output is there ... if so, then it's your grep |
| 17:52.49 | maquis | i'm doing that |
| 17:52.53 | maquis | and a lot of the output isn't there |
| 17:53.03 | maquis | so, i'm kind-of confused :) |
| 17:53.19 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | A very merry unbirthday to everyone! (except hans) |
| 17:55.12 | sjansen | maquis: What language? If Perl, I'd use Perl's grep. It's powerful, and you're less likely to have buffering issues. |
| 17:55.56 | maquis | sjansen: i'm not doing any grepping anymore... |
| 17:56.22 | sjansen | Is this code you can safely paste somewhere? |
| 17:58.21 | goozbach | unbirthday! |
| 17:58.23 | goozbach | yay! |
| 17:58.38 | goozbach | un un un unbirdthday! |
| 17:58.59 | maquis | sjansen: not really |
| 17:59.19 | maquis | sjansen: i'm trying it from a terminal to see what's going on outside of perl |
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| 18:03.59 | goozbach | could someone tell fozz that he has a typo in his catalyst install docs |
| 18:04.13 | goozbach | just leave it that vauge |
| 18:04.17 | goozbach | see what he dies |
| 18:04.22 | goozbach | s/does/dies/ |
| 18:04.25 | goozbach | bah! |
| 18:04.32 | goozbach | no type good today |
| 18:04.43 | goozbach | porkpinapple |
| 18:06.20 | macnewbold | ~confuse goozbach |
| 18:06.22 | ibot | yes how are your pants yesterday ? |
| 18:07.10 | goozbach | inconfortable |
| 18:07.18 | goozbach | and the yours? |
| 18:08.19 | macnewbold | ~pork pineapple |
| 18:10.38 | redbeard1 | ~pineapple pork |
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| 18:19.36 | harleypig | maquis: That is wierd ... if you do app > app.out 2> app.err do you get all the data you expect? |
| 18:20.00 | harleypig | what about app > app.out 2>&1 ? |
| 18:20.20 | maquis | harleypig: if i do that last command, it appears to work |
| 18:20.46 | maquis | i'm wondering if perl is, for some reason doing app 2>&1 > blah.txt (which is what i was trying to do for a bit) |
| 18:21.00 | maquis | because that's what the output kind-of reminds me of |
| 18:21.41 | harleypig | Hmmm ... doesn't that *not* redirect fd2 to blah.txt? |
| 18:21.53 | maquis | except wait... |
| 18:21.58 | maquis | perl is returning some of stderr |
| 18:22.01 | maquis | just not all of it |
| 18:22.10 | levi | 2>&1 redirects stderr to stdout |
| 18:22.50 | harleypig | right, but isn't there some kind of weirdity in the shell that makes order important? |
| 18:22.58 | maquis | harleypig: yes,, |
| 18:23.14 | maquis | and in order to do what i want to do, i have to put them in the opposite order from what makes sense to me |
| 18:23.22 | maquis | which is why i spent a while trying the wrong one from the terminal |
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| 18:23.57 | levi | Stupid shell weirdities. |
| 18:24.00 | harleypig | Yeah, I just tested it ... app 2>&1 > blah.txt redirects stderr to stdout and stdout to blah.txt |
| 18:24.24 | harleypig | Is that what you *want* to do? from within perl I mean? |
| 18:26.22 | harleypig | $a = `app 2>&1 > blah.txt` seems to be working correctly for me from the debugger |
| 18:26.39 | harleypig | I did $a = `ls -j 2>&1 > blah.txt` and $a had the error message in it. |
| 18:26.40 | maquis | harleypig: i think i've got a more deep-seated problem than i realized initially |
| 18:26.43 | atoponce | lol: http://www.squarefree.com/2007/01/02/porn-browser-wars/ (sfw) |
| 18:30.13 | levi | maquis: Yes; you're using perl. ;) |
| 18:31.47 | harleypig | ~bonk levi |
| 18:31.49 | ibot | ACTION bonks levi over the head |
| 18:31.55 | harleypig | maquis: what do you mean? |
| 18:32.43 | maquis | harleypig: not really sure... but it's kind-of working and kind-of not |
| 18:33.05 | harleypig | yeah, but that's where you started from isn't it? |
| 18:33.12 | maquis | oh wait!!! |
| 18:33.30 | harleypig | ~lart maquis |
| 18:33.42 | harleypig | There you go ... what kind of pebcak was it? |
| 18:34.19 | maquis | well... this random part of the output had <> around it... and it kinda got swallowed up by the browser |
| 18:34.30 | maquis | and that explains why it was disappearing |
| 18:34.42 | harleypig | ? You didn't look at the source? |
| 18:34.47 | harleypig | tsk tsk tsk |
| 18:35.04 | harleypig | (we'll ignore all the stoopid things I've done) |
| 18:58.55 | levi | Mmmm, finally got emacs gnus working to read my email in a terminal. I find it far better than mutt. |
| 19:01.05 | dataw0lf | boo. hiss. |
| 19:01.56 | dataw0lf | I cannot get fetchmail working with Exchange. |
| 19:13.27 | [\^Migs^ | this is sweet. I just set this up in my cubicle: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/8a0f/ |
| 19:19.52 | maquis | how many microseconds in a second? |
| 19:19.56 | maquis | 10^6? |
| 19:20.49 | dataw0lf | maquis: ya |
| 19:20.56 | maquis | dataw0lf: ok |
| 19:35.41 | maquis | how would you go about running tail -f on 2 files at the same time? |
| 19:36.21 | Tene | tail -f file1 file2 |
| 19:38.03 | maquis | Tene: cool... that actually works! |
| 19:38.24 | Tene | Yep. |
| 19:38.33 | [\^Migs^ | good gawd this insurance secretary I'm talking to is a retard |
| 19:38.50 | [\^Migs^ | no matter how many times I repeat my CC number she gets it wrong |
| 19:40.09 | goozbach | maquis: the other solution is screen |
| 19:40.16 | goozbach | ctrl-a S |
| 19:40.21 | goozbach | split screen |
| 19:40.27 | goozbach | and ctrl-a TAB |
| 19:40.43 | maquis | goozbach: i've already got screen running... but i wanted a non-screen solution... so tail -f <a> <b> is exactly what i was looking for :) |
| 19:42.32 | goozbach | ahh |
| 19:42.42 | goozbach | but you could run it in a sub-screen session |
| 19:42.46 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:43.03 | goozbach | ctrl-a a sends a cntrl-a to the sub screen session |
| 19:43.36 | maquis | goozbach: yes... i've done that before, actually |
| 19:45.08 | sjansen | Order matters so that you can combine stdout/stderr or send stderr to fd 1 and stdout to something else (pipe stderr and discard stdout). |
| 19:45.42 | sjansen | If all you want to do is combine, it's safer and easier to just say 'foo &> foo.log' |
| 19:46.27 | sjansen | Or were you making the mistake 'foo | grep 2>&1' and expecting that to join foo's stdout and stderr? |
| 19:46.28 | maquis | sjansen: yeah... but i was trying to figure out why something didn't work... |
| 19:47.05 | maquis | sjansen: i was trying to do 2>&1 in a perl script... but it wasn't doing what i thought it would do, so i then tried to do it from the command-line and send it to a file... |
| 19:47.36 | maquis | and doing the 2>&1 before the > file seemed like it ought to be the right order more than the opposite... |
| 19:47.41 | maquis | so, i was doing that wrong |
| 19:48.12 | maquis | but it's all a bit of a moot point because the whole problem was actually just having <> around a part of the output |
| 20:05.21 | findlay-w | hello |
| 20:06.28 | findlay-w | maquis: tail -F is always a better option since it follows the file if it gets removed/rewritten |
| 20:06.56 | findlay-w | unless you're counting on the file ending its life or being removed |
| 20:07.08 | maquis | findlay-w: interesting... didn't know that |
| 20:07.33 | findlay-w | of course I'm full of amazing pieces of knowledge |
| 20:07.41 | findlay-w | I'll be here all week |
| 20:07.46 | findlay-w | don't forget to tip your waitresses |
| 20:11.04 | Tene | maquis: also, there's a version of tail that uses inotify instead of polling. |
| 20:11.07 | Tene | inotail, I think. |
| 20:11.16 | harleypig | maquis: multitail |
| 20:11.18 | findlay-w | notail? |
| 20:11.34 | findlay-w | tail without the tail |
| 20:11.55 | findlay-w | and an 'i' |
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| 20:36.32 | sjansen | ~hug ALSA |
| 20:36.34 | ibot | ACTION hugs ALSA tightly until ALSA turns slightly blue |
| 20:37.14 | sjansen | Sad but true, in 2007 I'm thankful every time multiple apps are allowed to access my soundcard at the same time. |
| 20:38.11 | findlay-w | the state of linux sound is still atrocious |
| 20:38.13 | findlay-w | way too much heterogenity, no stable api's |
| 20:38.15 | levi | I've solved that problem for the last few years by using OS X and occasionally Windows when I want to do media stuff. |
| 20:38.22 | goozbach | WEWT! |
| 20:38.29 | goozbach | dell shipped my stuff |
| 20:38.33 | goozbach | buhahahah |
| 20:38.34 | levi | findlay-w: You can remove the 'sound' from there and it's still true. |
| 20:38.45 | findlay-w | levi: indeed |
| 20:40.08 | findlay-w | the one cool thing about BSD |
| 20:40.40 | emcnabb | sjansen: welcome back to #utah |
| 20:40.59 | emcnabb | fun reading of the day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale |
| 20:42.35 | levi | Fun. |
| 20:43.24 | levi | "Check it out, I just passed a Type 4!" |
| 20:43.39 | findlay-w | emcnabb: you work for RedHat, therefore you should eliminate the heterogenity in the state of Linux |
| 20:43.45 | findlay-w | I give you 3 days |
| 20:44.04 | emcnabb | levi: me too! |
| 20:45.33 | emcnabb | findlay-w: it's easy, just use the distro I prefer, and we'll be unified |
| 20:46.32 | findlay-w | unitedlinux! |
| 20:46.43 | Tene | "designed to classify the feces form into seven groups" |
| 20:46.58 | Tene | Why would you choose the number of groups before starting classification? |
| 20:47.01 | findlay-w | there's a lot of crap on wikipedia |
| 20:47.46 | Tene | I hope that wasn't intended to be a pun. |
| 20:47.52 | emcnabb | Tene: one turd style for each day of the week? |
| 20:47.58 | findlay-w | Tene: was it a crappy pun? |
| 20:50.49 | jsmith | findlay-w: I prefer dividedlinux, personally |
| 20:51.04 | findlay-w | aw |
| 20:51.23 | Tene | argh |
| 20:51.42 | Tene | ctrl+w doesn't delete the rpevious word in gaim. |
| 20:51.54 | jsmith | Yup |
| 20:52.00 | jsmith | File a bug ;-) |
| 20:52.03 | findlay-w | Tene: ctrl+backspace |
| 20:53.43 | Tene | findlay-w: alt+gojumpinalake |
| 20:53.55 | findlay-w | ctrl+backspace works |
| 20:54.07 | Tene | alt+gojumpinalake is better |
| 20:54.24 | findlay-w | wait a second ... I don't have the gotothejumpinglake key |
| 20:54.48 | Tene | findlay-w: the issue isn't that it doesn't do anything, the issue is that I'm used to using that keystroke when I want to delete a word, and that keystroke closes tabs in gaim |
| 20:54.58 | findlay-w | hehe |
| 20:56.02 | sjansen | ctrl+w closes windows in a lot of apps |
| 20:56.36 | sjansen | frankly, I don't know how you've survived this long with a habit like that |
| 20:56.38 | Tene | not apps that I often care about deleting words in. |
| 20:57.13 | findlay-w | ctrl+w is the only word deleter for vim's ex command line |
| 20:58.06 | goozbach | that rates a 5.7 on the bristol |
| 20:58.09 | goozbach | heh |
| 20:58.15 | goozbach | yay a new meme! |
| 20:58.17 | [\^Migs^ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:58.42 | [\^Migs^ | I need to get it running in WINE |
| 20:59.54 | findlay-w | a new goozbachgoozbach |
| 21:02.53 | Tene | hehe |
| 21:04.14 | findlay-w | yesyes |
| 21:06.13 | findlay-w | it would be nice if less could use vim colors |
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| 21:09.43 | dataw0lf | findlay: http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/tip.php?tip_id=121 |
| 21:10.19 | dataw0lf | or macros/less.sh |
| 21:11.45 | [\^Migs^ | this is cool: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/lights/8dde/ |
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| 21:13.40 | sjansen | Now I know what I want for my unbirthday. |
| 21:13.52 | tristanbob | sjansen: happy unbirthday to you! |
| 21:14.08 | findlay-w | ~celebrate sjansen |
| 21:15.15 | tristanbob | does anyone else use evolution with Groupwise? |
| 21:15.48 | tristanbob | I have an event on my calendar, and a blinking alarm shows up in the top-right of screen. I don't know how to get clear it. |
| 21:19.06 | maquis | tristanbob: souns like my phone at work |
| 21:19.21 | tristanbob | maquis: :) |
| 21:19.49 | tristanbob | seriously, it sits there blinking next to the volume control and I can't clear the notification! |
| 21:19.52 | tristanbob | ubuntu 6.10 |
| 21:20.36 | Tene | tristanbob: attend the event |
| 21:21.03 | tristanbob | Tene: darn, I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that |
| 21:21.21 | findlay-w | there's got to be another way |
| 21:21.34 | Tene | hire an immigrant to attend the event for you |
| 21:22.23 | maquis | my phone has been counting up missed calls since i started... although... it did get refreshed the day i got moved to a new desk... |
| 21:23.40 | tristanbob | you guys sure are funny, but not so much on the useful side this time. :( |
| 21:23.54 | tristanbob | can't you be funny AND share the right answer? |
| 21:23.57 | levi | tristanbob: I use evolution with groupwise, but I don't use the groupwise plugin. I just use IMAP. |
| 21:23.59 | [\^Migs^ | since when are we supposed to be useful? |
| 21:24.15 | [\^Migs^ | or funny? |
| 21:24.26 | maquis | [\^Migs^: you appear to be magnetic |
| 21:24.29 | [\^Migs^ | maybe you should stop expecting so much from us and stfu |
| 21:24.34 | tristanbob | levi: IMAP is mail only, right? |
| 21:24.41 | maquis | weird characters keep sticking to you |
| 21:24.42 | [\^Migs^ | mail only? |
| 21:24.50 | Tene | tristanbob: imap can do other stuff |
| 21:24.53 | [\^Migs^ | as long as it makes me at the top of the user list, that's all I care about |
| 21:24.55 | levi | tristanbob: Yes, but all the other features are based on mail too. |
| 21:25.06 | levi | tristanbob: So I still get meeting invites and everything. |
| 21:25.06 | tristanbob | [\^Migs^: maybe I should also RTFM? Perhaps multiple times, and in several languages? |
| 21:25.25 | [\^Migs^ | Yes you should. After you've done that, come back and ask questions. |
| 21:25.29 | levi | tristanbob: The only big problem is recurring meetings. |
| 21:26.06 | maquis | tristanbob: and ask the question in one of the languages that you rtfm'd in so that we can know you actually did that |
| 21:26.11 | tristanbob | levi: hmmmm.... perhaps I should look further into this and see if it is a bug |
| 21:26.45 | levi | tristanbob: Every time I try the groupwise plugin, evolution starts crashing frequently. Otherwise I'd use it. |
| 21:26.59 | levi | tristanbob: So, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a bug. |
| 21:27.20 | tristanbob | maquis: Iway illway rytay otay oday atthay. |
| 21:27.42 | maquis | oodgay |
| 21:28.03 | tristanbob | levi: I haven't had any crashes, so I should be thankful for that. |
| 21:40.00 | goozbach | tis ok however, my roommates should be home |
| 21:40.59 | tristanbob | wow! the next meeting came up and notified me, and I could click on it and hit "clear" or "snooze". I selected "snooze". |
| 21:41.31 | findlay-w | I love it when meetings do that |
| 21:41.54 | tristanbob | meetings are great conversation partners too |
| 21:43.27 | Jayce^ | mmm, dell orders... few things can be as frustrating as those... |
| 21:43.38 | Jayce^ | always take too long, and tend to forget parts, or send the wrong ones |
| 21:43.59 | tristanbob | darn you Dell! I order 512 MB of memory, not 2 GB! |
| 21:44.39 | macnewbold | whoa |
| 21:44.42 | findlay-w | and not even dell knows what the pricing is |
| 21:44.44 | macnewbold | why did you order 512MB? |
| 21:45.56 | tristanbob | macnewbold: It is a yoke! |
| 21:46.09 | Sargun | Lol. |
| 21:46.19 | findlay-w | loL |
| 21:46.43 | macnewbold | but hey, if they only charged you for 512MB, and sent 2GB, I would just let it ride... |
| 21:47.02 | tristanbob | findlay-w: less laughing, more loud? loL |
| 21:47.10 | findlay-w | I guess |
| 21:47.14 | Sargun | More Laughing, less loud. |
| 21:47.24 | findlay-w | how would you do that? |
| 21:47.33 | Sargun | Different ratio. |
| 21:47.34 | tristanbob | you would have to be a mime |
| 21:47.35 | Jayce^ | ok, we're running out of time, anybody have something they are interested in presenting on for Plug next week? |
| 21:51.34 | Jayce^ | sjansen, then plan a plug meeting for next week... |
| 21:52.01 | tristanbob | LAN party for the PLUG meeting |
| 21:52.09 | Sargun | bzflag |
| 21:52.09 | Jayce^ | hrmmm. |
| 21:52.10 | sjansen | This week for Plug we're TP-ing redbeard1's house! |
| 21:52.13 | herlo | tristanbob: great idea |
| 21:52.33 | redbeard1 | i don't suppose i have any say in this? |
| 21:52.36 | sjansen | We do the other Hall (Jayce^) but who wants to drive out into that $deity forsaken waste land? |
| 21:52.37 | [\^Migs^ | why can't all PLUG meetings be e-meetings? |
| 21:52.43 | sjansen | s/We/We'd/ |
| 21:52.49 | findlay-w | shared screen session for hacking into the krispy kreme website to order us 144 dozen doughnuts? |
| 21:52.59 | findlay-w | now there's a LAN party |
| 21:53.05 | Jayce^ | sjansen, don't forget, I'm armed... |
| 21:53.22 | Jayce^ | redbeard1, only if you come up with a better alternative :) |
| 21:53.46 | redbeard1 | Jayce^: shoot, that's tough. sjansen lives so far away too. |
| 21:55.15 | Jayce^ | redbeard1, everybody will go where the food is.. |
| 21:55.20 | Jayce^ | so doubly hard for you |
| 21:55.35 | redbeard1 | there's no food at our house |
| 21:55.50 | Jayce^ | *riiight* |
| 21:55.58 | redbeard1 | we've decided to start stocking up on diapers instead of food |
| 21:56.57 | redbeard1 | for the baby, of course |
| 21:57.43 | Tene | redbeard1: youw ouldn't need the diapers if the baby didn't have access to food. |
| 21:58.54 | Jayce^ | just remember, dont' overstock on the small diapers... |
| 21:59.20 | redbeard1 | right right |
| 22:01.32 | Tene | argh |
| 22:01.35 | Tene | frames-- |
| 22:02.15 | goozbach | I won't tell them that redbeard1 was planning on expermenting with ice creams soon |
| 22:02.23 | goozbach | I mean oops! |
| 22:02.33 | redbeard1 | hey! |
| 22:02.40 | redbeard1 | none of that! |
| 22:02.59 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.15 | goozbach | ooh oops again! |
| 22:03.25 | redbeard1 | you guys are jerks |
| 22:03.28 | redbeard1 | no offense |
| 22:03.44 | goozbach | so I must have had luck with my dell orders then |
| 22:03.44 | maquis | please note that redbeard1 only claims that the guys in the channel are jerks |
| 22:03.54 | goozbach | I haven't had any problems |
| 22:03.59 | Tene | lame! |
| 22:04.10 | maquis | Tene: yes, it is a lame duck |
| 22:05.14 | bonez39 | Tene, I have talked with you about my new machine....is there any hardware compatability list published,, so that when I build my next new machine....I can get it with the right NIC and sound and other onboard equipment..which supports linux? |
| 22:05.22 | findlay-w | does lame duck taste better? |
| 22:05.36 | Tene | bonez39: not that I know of. |
| 22:05.50 | Tene | I saw a list of hardware to avoid linked on digg a few days ago... |
| 22:05.52 | maquis | findlay-w: probably, if it's true that fat makes food taste better... |
| 22:05.57 | Tene | "hardware incompatibility list" ocelot |
| 22:05.59 | Jayce^ | findlay-w, extra fat, since it couldn't run around |
| 22:07.13 | goozbach | look what fat does for ice cream |
| 22:07.14 | goozbach | yummy |
| 22:08.06 | Jayce^ | if fat does good for ice cream, what does alcohol do for sorbet redbeard1 ? :-> you know, if you had *any* experience with that... |
| 22:08.15 | Tene | duck-flavored ice cream |
| 22:09.30 | findlay-w | lame duck ice cream |
| 22:09.33 | findlay-w | for plug |
| 22:11.46 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
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| 22:19.27 | goozbach | ohh booze in sorbet!? |
| 22:19.33 | goozbach | yeay~ |
| 22:24.17 | [\^Migs^ | I hooked up this to my computer, and it's pretty neat: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/6984/ |
| 22:24.23 | [\^Migs^ | except my fish keep humping each other |
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| 22:32.18 | fungus | anyone happen to know a local shop that sells fiber media converters? |
| 22:34.52 | jsmith | fungus: Call TierFour -- Erich usually has a few on hand |
| 22:35.34 | fungus | cool, thx |
| 22:39.35 | bonez39 | Tene, I just can't seem to install debian on my son's amd 64 machine...despite having installed PM, and moving the windows partition out...from the edge...I have room now, but my image still won't even see any of the available partitions... |
| 22:40.01 | Tene | ide or sata drives? |
| 22:40.02 | [\^Migs^ | what's the shortcut to copy text from a terminal window into the clipboard? |
| 22:40.11 | Tene | select it |
| 22:40.28 | findlay-w | and then mouse middle button to paste |
| 22:40.40 | [\^Migs^ | oh nice, thanks |
| 22:40.47 | [\^Migs^ | what if I didn't have a middle mouse button? |
| 22:40.49 | Tene | ctrl+ins and shift+ins are related kb commands, if you're into that |
| 22:40.59 | Tene | [\^Migs^: press both buttons at once, if you have two |
| 22:41.24 | findlay-w | button1+button2 is usually known as three button emulation to the X server |
| 22:43.47 | [\^Migs^ | what if I only have one button? |
| 22:44.22 | [\^Migs^ | could I reprogram it so it thinks a triple-click = button3? |
| 22:44.33 | findlay-w | your mouse suxorz |
| 22:44.38 | findlay-w | probably |
| 22:44.46 | [\^Migs^ | no u suxorz |
| 22:44.51 | findlay-w | whatever |
| 22:46.06 | [\^Migs^ | noob |
| 22:47.20 | findlay-w | nuh uh |
| 22:54.26 | bonez39 | Tene, sata drive......250gb |
| 22:54.48 | bonez39 | tene I am trying a new ISO I found.....from #debian's dpkg...seeing if it will recognize my sata drive... |
| 22:55.12 | findlay-w | good luck bonez39 |
| 22:55.14 | Tene | have you asked #debian? |
| 22:55.27 | bonez39 | I think that's the issue, the drive is pretty new..as is the driver..and the network driver for the motherboard NIC is pretty new too......and thus...only may be recognized with a fairly new disc image.... |
| 22:55.34 | findlay-w | #debian -> RTFineM!@@!1 |
| 22:55.39 | bonez39 | Tene, yeah, that's where I asked...to get the iso I am downloading now |
| 23:00.16 | sjansen | How do you middle click if you mouse has no buttons? |
| 23:00.50 | dataw0lf | with your mind |
| 23:03.50 | findlay-w | sjansen: only mac users are supposed to know that |
| 23:04.10 | findlay-w | it's their awful secret |
| 23:07.48 | [phoenyx] | sjansen: is that like one of those riddles about one hand clapping? |
| 23:08.25 | sjansen | I've known guys who could clap with one hand. Looked painful. |
| 23:08.50 | Jayce^ | sjansen, nah, just use redbeard1's face for the other part of the clap.. |
| 23:08.53 | macnewbol1 | is there anyone in here who would be interested in an easy, small, short-term contract job in Salt Lake City? A guy I know wants some help to set up some MSWord/MSExcel templates for him with his logo and stuff, for invoices and stuff. I just don't have time for it. |
| 23:10.06 | redbeard1 | so sjansen, what are you prensenting on this month for plug? |
| 23:10.07 | [\^Migs^ | what exactly does he need done that he can't do himself? |
| 23:10.35 | bonez39 | is cdrecord good for burning an iso to disc? |
| 23:11.14 | findlay-w | yes |
| 23:13.12 | levi | PLUG meetings are Wednesdays, right? |
| 23:13.36 | redbeard1 | yeah |
| 23:13.46 | redbeard1 | levi: second wednesday of the month |
| 23:14.00 | levi | Oh well. Won't be going for a while. Have a class Wed. at 7:30. |
| 23:14.09 | redbeard1 | punk |
| 23:14.15 | [\^Migs^ | I need to figure out a script that, given a root directory, copies all files in subfolders into that root |
| 23:14.26 | redbeard1 | of course, not that i'll be there myself in feb, and maybe this month too |
| 23:14.35 | levi | It's not my fault that UVSC schedules their evening classes so poorly. |
| 23:14.58 | redbeard1 | ~blame levi |
| 23:15.23 | tristanbob | levi: evolution just crashed for the first time - perhaps a sign of more to come? |
| 23:15.24 | findlay-w | [\^Migs^: can you be more specific? |
| 23:15.30 | findlay-w | I'm sure there's an easy answer |
| 23:16.07 | levi | tristanbob: Probably. |
| 23:16.29 | levi | tristanbob: It's pretty stable for me when I just use IMAP, and pretty crashy when I use the groupwise plugin. |
| 23:16.54 | levi | You'd think it'd work a little better, considering they're both Novell products now. |
| 23:17.07 | findlay-w | indeed |
| 23:17.19 | macnewbold | [\^Migs^: he _could_ do it himself if he learned how... he really just needs to rent a medium-to-advanced MS Office user (nothing too fancy, but more than he can handle) |
| 23:17.43 | macnewbold | and on your script: how should it handle filename conflicts? |
| 23:18.21 | macnewbold | a combination of find . -type f | xargs -J {} mv -i {} . would probably work pretty decently |
| 23:18.57 | findlay-w | or just `cp -a olddir newdir` |
| 23:33.08 | goozbach | sjansen: you're talking about me |
| 23:33.13 | goozbach | aren't you? |
| 23:33.47 | sjansen | I have no idea. The hand is burned into my memory, the face not so much. |
| 23:34.22 | goozbach | it involves seperating all the joints in my fingers |
| 23:34.29 | goozbach | doesn't really hurt however |
| 23:34.52 | bonez39 | I tried loading cdrecord..but my kernel is 2.6.8 and I get errors about running on newer than 2.4 kernel...... |
| 23:34.59 | bonez39 | anyone know how to work around this issue? |
| 23:35.38 | sjansen | ignore them |
| 23:35.57 | bonez39 | sjansen, but ignoring them won't burn the iso to disk..... |
| 23:36.13 | sjansen | Oh, you're talking a fatal error. |
| 23:36.59 | sjansen | You're going to have to be more specific. The cdrecord maintainer didn't like the 2.6 kernel or something so he added an obnoxious warning. |
| 23:37.42 | sjansen | As a Debian user, you should probably look into cdkit (or whatever that Debian fork of cdrecord is called). |
| 23:37.57 | bonez39 | yeah... |
| 23:38.59 | sjansen | Although if you've got a 2.6.8 kernel, that probably means you're running stable. So... I'm going to let a Debian user help you. |
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| 23:44.22 | tristanbob | anyone know how to convert xvid to something that can be burned on a DVD? |
| 23:54.54 | levi | Has everyone seen this? http://www.neonshop.com/bio/iw/bwv6n1.htm |
| 23:54.58 | levi | Sure brings back memories. :) |
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