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| 00:07.26 | harleypig | UtahBot? |
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| 00:24.12 | lars-ut | ~pistolwhip ibot |
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| 00:24.43 | ibot | lars-ut pimpslaps ibot. ouch! |
| 00:24.54 | lars-ut | that's better. |
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| 02:25.37 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 02:25.42 | Supaplex | m00 |
| 02:26.51 | mrpull- | what's up? |
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| 03:11.46 | nick125_lappy | what the heck...this is weird |
| 03:12.12 | nick125_lappy | according to the traffic graphs in pfsense, I'm pushing more traffic then my line is rated for (920kbit, when my line is rated at 896kbit) |
| 03:12.21 | levi_home | Yow, 'Scala with Sails' |
| 03:20.14 | goozbach | Jayce^: http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autowb031.html for you |
| 03:24.06 | goozbach | CURSE YOU HOWARD TAYLOR!!! |
| 03:24.14 | goozbach | I was being productive |
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| 06:16.10 | Tene | anyone know anything about support for zyxel wireless cards in linux |
| 06:16.56 | Tene | the current offer on http://woot.com/ is two zyxel 802.11g PCI cards for $20 + $5 shipping |
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| 13:58.28 | *** topic/#utah by atoponce -> Channel for OSS discussion | See http://www.plug.org/node/28 | PHP workshop hosted by OALUG & UPHPU Jan 27 in Ogden- Watch http://groups-beta.google.com/group/oalug for details | Happy Belated New Year |
| 14:09.54 | goozbach | GOOD MORNING!! |
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| 14:14.01 | atoponce | morning |
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| 14:28.50 | calvarez | good morning |
| 14:33.57 | goozbach | CREME! |
| 14:34.00 | goozbach | BRU |
| 14:34.03 | goozbach | LEE! |
| 14:38.13 | redbeard1 | looks like there's a new italian restaurant in salt lake |
| 14:38.24 | redbeard1 | the deseret news review was pretty glowing |
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| 16:03.40 | Jayce^ | redbeard1, so that makes it what, a 1 star? |
| 16:04.18 | redbeard1 | if there are stars to be handed out, it looks like deseret news is the only place that has them to give |
| 16:04.40 | redbeard1 | the salt lake city weekly review was... i think abysmal is the right word |
| 16:07.02 | redbeard1 | ping tensai |
| 16:07.43 | tensai | redbeard1: pong |
| 16:18.46 | maquis | ~curse windoze |
| 16:18.54 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, windoze ! |
| 16:18.54 | levi | redbeard1: Which restaurant? |
| 16:19.36 | maquis | note to self... when "My Computer" is "not responding", killing it does Bad Things(TM) |
| 16:19.37 | redbeard1 | levi: saltimbocca, in sugarhouse |
| 16:19.46 | levi | Hmm. Haven't heard of it. |
| 16:21.40 | maquis | anyone know how to reboot when you hit this state? |
| 16:21.40 | graphyx | salt in bocca ( mouth )? |
| 16:21.40 | redbeard1 | actually, i think saltim means happy or something |
| 16:21.42 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 16:21.46 | maquis | anybody? |
| 16:22.17 | Jayce^ | mmm.. churrasco |
| 16:22.39 | maquis | hmm... i managed to tell it to reboot.. |
| 16:22.42 | maquis | .but it's not doing it |
| 16:23.44 | maquis | *grumble*window*grumble*long-drop*grumble* |
| 16:24.12 | herl1 | Jayce^: nice choice! |
| 16:24.26 | herl1 | goozbach: I like that as well |
| 16:25.20 | herlo | there's this little place in Miami that has great churrasco |
| 16:26.05 | goozbach | herlo: I think I know the one to which you refer |
| 16:26.19 | goozbach | we need churrasco in tally |
| 16:26.42 | herlo | goozbach: near the waterfront, and I misstated, it's in West Palm Beach |
| 16:28.05 | herlo | goozbach: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g34731-d403480-Reviews-Cabana_Restaurant-West_Palm_Beach_Florida.html |
| 16:37.26 | goozbach | nope, not the one I know |
| 16:37.36 | goozbach | the one I know is in downtown miami |
| 16:39.10 | maquis | how does one get stuff from the command-line in python? |
| 16:41.19 | goozbach | argv? |
| 16:41.21 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:41.45 | maquis | does python have argv? |
| 16:42.04 | goozbach | I don't know |
| 16:42.32 | goozbach | I'm making the "answer <mylang> is better than <yourlang>" argument |
| 16:42.35 | goozbach | :) |
| 16:43.05 | maquis | goozbach: that's great... i agree with your choice of lang... |
| 16:43.22 | maquis | unfortunately, i don't feel like completely rewriting this script |
| 16:50.18 | levi | maquis: Python has some decent documentation. |
| 16:51.08 | maquis | levi: yeah... i ended up guessing and getting it right |
| 16:51.17 | levi | There you go. |
| 16:52.23 | levi | I won't claim that Python is the best language for everyone, but it's pretty decent. |
| 16:52.52 | goozbach | I like perl |
| 16:52.57 | goozbach | there i said it |
| 16:53.07 | goozbach | it's time to eat a porkchop |
| 16:53.10 | levi | I hate perl, but I use it when it's a reasonable choice. |
| 16:55.57 | levi | I discovered last week that perl overloads some keywords to perform completely different functions depending on the arguments you pass it. |
| 16:56.19 | maquis | levi: that's cool |
| 16:56.29 | levi | maquis: No, that's not cool at all. |
| 16:57.27 | levi | Whenever I think I've found the deepest, darkest ugly corner of perl, I run across another one that's even worse. |
| 17:02.22 | vontrapp | what do you use to set the volume label on something besides ext2? |
| 17:03.00 | goozbach | vontrapp: don't use labels, use udev |
| 17:03.09 | goozbach | much more better |
| 17:03.41 | goozbach | even cooler is the fact that the new version of mount can even do UUIDs |
| 17:04.28 | vontrapp | hmmm, yes |
| 17:04.36 | levi | Yow, a new Indiana Jones movie with Harrison Ford as Jones again. |
| 17:04.37 | vontrapp | but it's still nice to have a name |
| 17:05.13 | vontrapp | tht's been in the rumors for like almost a year |
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| 17:05.54 | calvarez | h'llo |
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| 17:09.42 | levi | Hello |
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| 17:13.26 | vontrapp | how do you use uuid in fstab? |
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| 17:42.41 | tensai | vontrapp: UUID=28286c26-e3d3-4467-a043-424f4641f446 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 17:43.52 | goozbach | yummy tasty porkchops |
| 17:43.58 | goozbach | porkchops! |
| 17:46.05 | goozbach | porkchops are soo easy to make tasty |
| 17:46.38 | goozbach | pinch of kosher salt, fresh ground pepper with allspice, sear quickly, and bring up to ~140 deg. |
| 17:46.48 | vontrapp | and how do you get the uuid? |
| 17:47.01 | goozbach | vontrapp: look at udevinfo |
| 17:47.02 | vontrapp | uuid is on the partition, right? |
| 17:47.17 | goozbach | vontrapp: or device or filesystem |
| 17:47.47 | vontrapp | do you need the fs one for fstab? |
| 17:47.55 | vontrapp | or can you use the partition one? |
| 17:48.06 | vontrapp | and do all fs types have uuids? |
| 17:49.23 | tensai | vontrapp: you can use mine, I don't mind |
| 17:49.44 | tensai | that was autogenerated by the ubuntu installer, so I dunno |
| 17:49.51 | goozbach | lol @tensai |
| 17:50.08 | vontrapp | ok, my partition of interest has uuid 4590-280a |
| 17:50.17 | vontrapp | that's not nearly as long as that other one |
| 17:50.39 | tensai | all of my ubuntu boxes have had long uuids |
| 17:51.09 | tensai | honestly I've never used them anywhere else. when I create a partition for myself I just use the device name. |
| 17:52.28 | vontrapp | well, it works |
| 17:52.45 | maquis | *head* *hits* *desk* |
| 17:52.58 | vontrapp | *desk* *hits* *back* |
| 17:54.20 | goozbach | or use LVM |
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| 17:54.53 | vontrapp | now to use hotplug to automount it |
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| 18:15.42 | vontrapp | why are hotplug and udev exclusive? |
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| 18:26.10 | vontrapp | hmmm, when i mount using the uuid in fstab, when i umount it segfaults |
| 18:26.12 | vontrapp | :( |
| 18:41.28 | Tene | vontrapp: so just don't umount |
| 18:48.08 | Tene | any scheme/lisp people around? |
| 18:48.50 | dataw0lf | Tene: yea |
| 18:49.47 | Tene | question coming from a friend... |
| 18:50.28 | Tene | " in Scheme, and I think CL as well, functions can return multiple values. (values a b c), for example. I can't figure out what use this has that just returning a list wouldn't have." |
| 18:51.51 | dataw0lf | well, in theory, it's different because you're not returning one value that's a container, but rather completely separate values |
| 18:53.36 | Tene | and what's the use/advantage of that? |
| 18:53.43 | dataw0lf | practically, I haven't come across any reasons to use them |
| 18:53.55 | dataw0lf | usually, I return lists because you can map over them |
| 18:54.39 | vontrapp | it's a usb drive |
| 18:54.43 | vontrapp | i have to umount |
| 18:55.38 | vontrapp | it's like having a function call with a list as a parameter as apposed to actual seperate parameters |
| 19:10.35 | Sargun | hi |
| 19:13.09 | goozbach | heddo |
| 19:13.42 | dataw0lf | herro |
| 19:17.16 | Sargun | ~seen redbeard2 |
| 19:17.20 | ibot | redbeard2 <n=redbeard@c-67-161-242-51.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1d 1h 13m 37s ago, saying: 'http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/2320'. |
| 19:17.20 | Sargun | ~seen redbeard |
| 19:17.22 | ibot | redbeard <i=redbeard@redbeard.dsl.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 442d 14h 22m 30s ago, saying: 'along with /dev/hdd (yes the CDROM drive is still in the machine)'. |
| 19:17.22 | Sargun | ~seen redbeard1 |
| 19:17.24 | ibot | redbeard1 is currently on #ubuntu-utah (4h 55m 18s) #utah (4h 55m 18s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 2h 55m 44s, last said: 'actually, i think saltim means happy or something'. |
| 19:17.36 | goozbach | WWSD? |
| 19:17.44 | goozbach | what would Scooby Do? |
| 19:17.59 | goozbach | saw that bumper sticker today |
| 19:18.00 | levi | Tene: In Common Lisp, when you return multiple values, you can use the first one normally and the rest are ignored. Otherwise, you can bind the values to variables in order to use them. |
| 19:18.01 | Sargun | No, what would Sargun do |
| 19:18.02 | Sargun | :-P |
| 19:18.11 | Sargun | I should get a WWSD bumper sticker |
| 19:18.28 | goozbach | WWSargunD? |
| 19:18.34 | goozbach | ~sargun blah |
| 19:18.38 | ibot | go away Tene |
| 19:18.39 | Sargun | -nod- |
| 19:18.39 | Sargun | haha |
| 19:18.44 | Sargun | ibot is my friend. |
| 19:18.53 | Sargun | away! |
| 19:19.26 | goozbach | building Asterisk is a LOOONG process |
| 19:19.39 | goozbach | but soon we'll have a GREAT rpm built |
| 19:19.59 | levi | Tene: In Scheme, a multiple return value may also be implemented as a continuation with multiple value parameters. |
| 19:21.08 | levi | They don't have to be implemented that way, but it's the conceptual model at least. |
| 19:23.46 | levi | I don't know that the Scheme multi-value returns give you any expressive advantage, but if the implementation is implemented via CPS-transformation, you get them for free; i.e. there's no consing overhead that you'd get from constructing a list. |
| 19:24.35 | goozbach | http://www.fsu.com/pages/2006/12/04/BigBadBoss.html |
| 19:24.42 | goozbach | cool, bosses lie1 |
| 19:24.47 | goozbach | s/1/!/ |
| 19:24.52 | maquis | goozbach: ?? story? |
| 19:25.13 | levi | Many Common Lisp library functions are implemented with multiple return values. It's convenient when you normally only need the first value, but occasionally need the extra ones. When you only need the first one, you don't have to do anything different; if they returned lists, you'd have to manually extract the first element. |
| 19:25.28 | goozbach | maquis: look too the link I JUST posted |
| 19:25.44 | maquis | goozbach: ah |
| 19:25.47 | goozbach | :) |
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| 19:37.48 | sjansen | http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Close_Encounters_of_the_Steve_Kind.txt&topic=Inspiration&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date&detail=medium |
| 19:37.56 | sjansen | One more reason Donal Knuth is my hero. |
| 19:38.03 | levi | Heh. |
| 19:39.28 | redbeard1 | ping Sargun |
| 19:41.06 | sjansen | Is there an HP zv5000 series owner living in the SL area in the house? |
| 19:41.19 | redbeard1 | sjansen! you live! |
| 19:41.48 | Jayce^ | he's undead |
| 19:42.08 | redbeard1 | close enough |
| 19:47.10 | carrus85 | There is a HP dv5000 living in the Provo area... |
| 19:47.28 | carrus85 | HP dv5000 *owner*; gha! |
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| 19:48.24 | carrus85 | Last I checked I wasn't! Don't you have to die before becoming undead? |
| 19:49.08 | [phoenyx] | carrus85: some consider werewolves to be undead |
| 19:49.11 | sjansen | carrus85: Does the dv5000 use a 120w (19v 6.3amp) power converter? |
| 19:49.21 | carrus85 | one second, I'll check |
| 19:49.27 | dataw0lf | werewolves are not undead |
| 19:49.47 | goozbach | sjansen?! |
| 19:50.04 | tensai | echo r >/proc/sysrq-trigger |
| 19:50.33 | goozbach | heh |
| 19:50.59 | carrus85 | sjansen, sorry; looks like 18.5v 3.5 amp here |
| 19:51.40 | carrus85 | It's a pretty weak converter; like 60w or something :/ |
| 19:52.09 | goozbach | I'm still trying to come up with a new way of storing sourcecode. |
| 19:52.23 | goozbach | so I can get a free pass to know everyting about everything |
| 19:52.23 | carrus85 | goozbach, svn works nicely |
| 19:52.34 | goozbach | and be right no matter what(tm) |
| 19:52.49 | goozbach | carrus85: you're missing a conversation we had in here well over a year ago |
| 19:53.03 | carrus85 | hmph; :/ |
| 19:53.19 | goozbach | everytime sjansen extols the virtues of knuth, I bring up my idolization of Tom Lord |
| 19:53.31 | goozbach | it's an unritten rule |
| 19:59.47 | maquis | unrite goozbach |
| 20:00.25 | sjansen | There can be no comparison between Knuth and Lord. |
| 20:00.41 | sjansen | Knuth = emotionally stable, incredibly productive |
| 20:02.04 | sjansen | TL = made some cool stuff, not yet as incredibly influential, grouchy possible extra-terrestrial in disguise |
| 20:02.43 | goozbach | sjansen: your sarcasim detector must be broken |
| 20:03.58 | sjansen | You've been gone so long I forgotten the week you spent sobbing after finally seeing the truth about TL. |
| 20:07.16 | levi | What has Tom Lord done that would make him worthy of idolization? |
| 20:07.52 | redbeard1 | man, what _hasn't_ tom lord done? |
| 20:08.22 | levi | He wrote GNU Arch, apparently. |
| 20:08.41 | sjansen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lord |
| 20:08.58 | sjansen | levi: Do you have a Wikipedia entry? I didn't think so. |
| 20:09.27 | redbeard1 | sjansen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Hall |
| 20:10.06 | redbeard1 | had you going there for a second tho, didn't i? |
| 20:10.10 | levi | sjansen: Yeah, well, Hitler has a wikipedia page, too! Does that make him worthy of idolization? ;) |
| 20:10.26 | redbeard1 | levi: only if your name is eric cartman |
| 20:10.33 | dataw0lf | Godwin's Law! Godwin's Law! |
| 20:11.04 | dataw0lf | besides, if you're looking from a strictly economic perspective, you could, indeed, idolize Hitler. |
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| 20:11.47 | levi | Well, certainly some people do idolize him, for various reasons. That's no justification to me, though. |
| 20:12.54 | levi | Tom Lord's Wikipedia is barely even worth mentioning, anyway. |
| 20:12.57 | sjansen | http://www.gnu.org/software/gnu-arch/ <-- Gotta love that logo. |
| 20:13.42 | levi | sjansen: That page is also available in Esperanto! |
| 20:16.31 | Tene | not lojban, though |
| 20:17.10 | goozbach | know what I redilly enjoy? |
| 20:17.13 | goozbach | BOFH |
| 20:17.55 | dataw0lf | who doesn't? |
| 20:18.41 | sjansen | Anyone who isn't hasn't and never will be a BOFH themself. |
| 20:18.59 | sjansen | Also know as victims or lusers. |
| 20:20.21 | dataw0lf | good point. |
| 20:20.58 | elg | -lart sjansen |
| 20:22.57 | elg | waterski tow, duh |
| 21:15.05 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 21:21.09 | mrpull | http://www.lifehacker.com/software/students/download-of-the-day-software-for-starving-students-winmac-225341.php |
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| 21:26.55 | goozbach | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6225301.stm |
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| 21:42.42 | goozbach | know what I think is cool? |
| 21:42.57 | goozbach | the little tire-tread pattern on the bottom of snickers bars |
| 21:43.21 | levi | ... |
| 21:43.30 | tlarson | know what those are for? |
| 21:43.34 | tlarson | i saw it on modern marvels |
| 21:43.45 | levi | So they don't slip on the conveyor belts? ;) |
| 21:43.46 | tlarson | it keeps the chocolate from sticking to the converyer belt |
| 21:43.59 | levi | Heh, just the opposite, I guess. |
| 21:44.07 | tlarson | can't remember why, but it does |
| 21:44.19 | levi | Interesting. |
| 21:45.06 | vontrapp | arg! dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig won't actually let me configure anything |
| 21:45.06 | goozbach | know what I can't wait for? |
| 21:45.38 | vontrapp | nope |
| 21:45.46 | goozbach | school to start again. so I don't have to watch my co-worker's little brat walk by 200times/day |
| 21:46.13 | levi | Your coworker brings his kid to work? |
| 21:46.45 | vontrapp | goozbach: just wait till it's _your_ little brat you can't wait to return to school |
| 21:47.23 | goozbach | levi: this week anyhow |
| 21:47.39 | goozbach | my little brats will be at my office |
| 21:47.58 | goozbach | because by the time I have them, I'll be retired or working from home a few hours a day |
| 21:48.08 | levi | Heh. |
| 21:48.34 | levi | goozbach: Good luck with that. |
| 21:48.38 | tlarson | vontrapp: gdb is your answer |
| 21:49.02 | tlarson | halelujah for core dumps |
| 21:50.03 | tlarson | anyone looking for a job? |
| 21:50.20 | tlarson | 'cause i'm on the other end of that process right now |
| 21:50.27 | tlarson | and most people are dumb. |
| 21:50.48 | Tene | what kind of job? I think I know someone who is, but I can't remember who it is. |
| 21:51.07 | tlarson | Programming, of course. |
| 21:51.12 | Tene | what kind of programming? |
| 21:51.47 | tlarson | Basically.... everything. Start with a problem, come up with a solution. Implement a solution, support your own product. |
| 21:51.51 | tlarson | pretty free-form |
| 21:52.24 | vontrapp | so it's not "come help fix someone else's poor solution"? |
| 21:52.59 | levi | What problem domain, though? |
| 21:53.03 | tlarson | A real employment opportunity. I work for my uncle's company, and we've been trying to recruit new programmers. Problem is, they're all awful. |
| 21:53.43 | levi | Are we talking desktop applications? Server applications? Database manipulation stuff? |
| 21:53.50 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 21:54.12 | tlarson | An example of a project i've done is distributing stock ticks to hundereds of customers worldwide with as little delay as possible. I wrote the server app which runs on Linux, while the client runs on windows. |
| 21:54.25 | tlarson | but we do all sorts. We |
| 21:54.34 | levi | So this is a consulting company? |
| 21:54.37 | tlarson | we're re-doing our client database, for example |
| 21:54.43 | tlarson | nope, just a small business |
| 21:54.46 | tlarson | all in-house |
| 21:55.32 | levi | Are you being intentionally vague, or am I not asking the right questions? |
| 21:56.55 | tlarson | The company sells market data. But the problems we have to solve to make it all work are pretty wide-spread. We need programmers who aren't just tied to one area. |
| 21:56.57 | levi | The good programmers are probably mostly already employed, and will probably need a bit more enticement than 'we need programmers to write programs' to consider your positions. |
| 21:58.07 | tlarson | The opportunities are pretty amazing, because you really never do the same thing twice. That's what I like about this job. I get bored writing the same stuff over and over. |
| 21:58.24 | levi | Well, I never do the same thing twice where I work, either. |
| 21:59.28 | tlarson | So one week it's server programming on Linux, the next week i'm building a .NET database interface. Anyway, the last place I saw smart programmers was the BYU UUG. Figured maybe someone where would know someone. |
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| 22:00.11 | levi | You might try a mailing list post with a detailed job description. |
| 22:01.00 | dataw0lf | tlarson: Languages? |
| 22:01.06 | macnewbold | tlarson: do they specify the languages you have to use, or do you get to choose? |
| 22:01.58 | vontrapp | where should i go eat? |
| 22:02.20 | JoshH | vontrapp: what area? |
| 22:02.25 | vontrapp | cali |
| 22:02.25 | tlarson | You get to choose. Obviously if you're writing something to run on a customer's computer, Perl is probably not a good choice. But if you know what you're doing, people don't really second guess you |
| 22:02.30 | vontrapp | southern |
| 22:02.39 | JoshH | in n out then is all i know |
| 22:03.05 | tlarson | vontrapp: do they have Qdoba there? |
| 22:03.14 | macnewbold | so some server side, some client side, some web perhaps? this sounds pretty vague to find one person who wants to do random stuff all the time |
| 22:03.35 | macnewbold | how do you get really skilled at anything if you're never doing similar things more than once? |
| 22:05.21 | tlarson | yeah, it's really a wide problem set. We have .NET apps running internally for our customer database, Perl programs doing web spidering, C++ / MFC programs running on customers' computers, and a wide variety of server programs. We want web interfaces to everything, and, well, whatever skills you have, we can usually find a use for them. |
| 22:05.46 | goozbach | "I'm gonna be your man!" |
| 22:05.49 | tlarson | it's a fairly ambitious company, but it works. |
| 22:07.47 | tlarson | I posted a note on the BYU UUG mailing list with a bit more information, but I didn't post any detailed info about the projects you'll be working on, cause it's pretty varied. I can write up something that details some of the up-and-coming projects, though. |
| 22:12.21 | levi | You might try the PLUG, UVLUG, and SLLUG lists, too. |
| 22:12.34 | macnewbold | so you need someone that can do Windows GUI apps, server side apps, and anything else? |
| 22:12.38 | maquis | doesn't sllug have a job-posting list? |
| 22:12.52 | herlo | maquis: as does plug and uphpu, and just about anyone else |
| 22:13.24 | maquis | herlo: really? i thought that sllug was the only one that had a separate list for jobs... at least back a couple years ago |
| 22:13.38 | herlo | well, I know for sure that uphpu has one |
| 22:13.50 | herlo | I'd say plug does, but I am not for certain, though I think they do |
| 22:15.24 | tlarson | I was only a member of the UUG. I'm not too familiar with the PLUG, UVLUG and SLLUG. |
| 22:16.09 | tlarson | macnewbold: we web programming too, including web services. |
| 22:19.26 | macnewbold | for web stuff, UPHPU is a good place to look |
| 22:19.34 | macnewbold | but most people there aren't interested in GUI apps and such |
| 22:19.40 | macnewbold | (other than web GUIs) |
| 22:19.43 | tlarson | boy, i have no idea what UPHPU is |
| 22:19.51 | maquis | tlarson: utah php users |
| 22:19.55 | macnewbold | www.uphpu.org - Utah PHP users - #uphpu |
| 22:20.16 | maquis | tlarson: don't worry... i think someone came up with a list of > 20 open-source-focused clubs in utah |
| 22:20.39 | levi | tlarson: How long ago were you in the UUG? |
| 22:20.58 | macnewbold | there is also an RSS aggregator somewhere that lists a ton of them |
| 22:24.12 | dataw0lf | http://openclue.org/ut/ ? |
| 22:25.55 | tlarson | i graduated in 2003, i was in the group that organized the uug |
| 22:26.47 | redbeard1 | speaking of user groups... |
| 22:26.55 | redbeard1 | anyone know of any anime groups in the orem area? |
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| 22:28.55 | Tene | redbeard1: there's the BYU one |
| 22:29.39 | macnewbold | mmm, creme brulee |
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| 22:34.44 | redbeard1 | you're back! you're all back! |
| 22:34.57 | goozbach | redbeard1: creme! |
| 22:35.08 | goozbach | creme like you've never creme'ed before |
| 22:35.15 | goozbach | ok... |
| 22:35.20 | goozbach | that sounded better in my head |
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| 22:37.37 | redbeard1 | whoa |
| 22:38.19 | redbeard1 | wow. apparently there was a bit of a delay there. jayce got all of that way before i did |
| 22:38.27 | harleypig | goozbach is a sicko |
| 22:38.55 | redbeard1 | so, um. dare i ask again if anyone knows of any anime groups in orem? |
| 22:39.04 | redbeard1 | ~brulee harleypig |
| 22:39.06 | ibot | ACTION whisks harleypig with eggs and cream, and bakes at 350F before sprinkling with sugar and torching |
| 22:39.06 | Jayce^ | redbeard1, you're not getting into that again... |
| 22:39.07 | harleypig | s/anime/hentai/ |
| 22:39.18 | Jayce^ | redbeard1 does furry cosplay! |
| 22:39.41 | Jayce^ | apparently harleypig too :-p |
| 22:40.33 | harleypig | wth is cosplay? |
| 22:40.34 | redbeard1 | ~lart Jayce^ |
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| 22:44.29 | macnewbold | mmm, creme brulee |
| 22:45.37 | redbeard1 | i don't know that i want to go through all this again |
| 22:51.26 | Jayce^ | "now don't start *that* again" |
| 22:53.14 | redbeard1 | exactly |
| 22:53.26 | redbeard1 | 'sides, i'm outta here. gotta dentist appt. |
| 22:53.45 | redbeard1 | ciao |
| 22:56.16 | tensai | off-topic question: my car battery apparently died over the long holiday. seems somebody left the door open. |
| 22:56.45 | tensai | I tried to jump start it but still nothing. is that normal? |
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| 22:58.39 | goozbach | again with the brulee? |
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| 23:13.24 | elg | tensai: yeah, if the battery is real real dead, a jump won't work |
| 23:13.32 | elg | let it trickle charge for a long while |
| 23:15.11 | tensai | elg: that concurs with what wikipedia said. how does one "let it trickle charge"? |
| 23:15.30 | tensai | ~onjoin -nick125 |
| 23:15.30 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 23:16.24 | tensai | elg: also, is it possible that I drained it so completely that it is beyond hope? |
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| 23:30.34 | levi | tensai: You can always take it to autozone and have them test it. |
| 23:30.47 | levi | tensai: They'll also charge it for you for free if it's salvageable. |