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| 03:54.15 | nick125_lappy | anyone know of a script to convert ogg to mp3? |
| 04:02.04 | Tene | nick125_lappy: sox |
| 04:02.09 | Tene | sox foo.ogg foo.mp3 |
| 04:02.16 | Tene | if you have mp3 support for sox, that is. |
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| 04:03.23 | nick125_lappy | It would be really nice if sox had a progress bar, or least some indication its working |
| 04:05.05 | Sargun | -Slap- |
| 04:09.10 | Supaplex | nick125_lappy: strace ;) |
| 04:23.38 | levi_home | Good evening. |
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| 04:38.22 | levi_home | Wow, this audiobook really does have all 700 hobo names. They're spoken over some guitar music. |
| 04:38.45 | dilvie | http://www.dilvie.com/music/2006/Moby_-_Go_(D-Love_Down_n_Dirty_Mix).mp3 |
| 04:44.28 | Supaplex | dilvie: new? |
| 04:44.38 | dilvie | supa: just updated |
| 04:44.44 | Supaplex | ouu |
| 04:44.56 | dilvie | not finished yet |
| 04:45.02 | dilvie | I'm just looking for feedback |
| 04:45.04 | dilvie | =) |
| 04:45.31 | Supaplex | ~shorten that |
| 04:45.45 | Supaplex | -shorten that |
| 04:46.00 | dilvie | huh? |
| 04:46.34 | Supaplex | perlbot> Shortened URL: http://xrl.us/t239 |
| 04:47.06 | redbeard2 | Sargun: you there? |
| 04:51.44 | dilvie | ah. |
| 04:51.45 | dilvie | =) |
| 04:51.51 | levi_home | dilvie: Sounds awesome |
| 04:52.02 | dilvie | levi: thanks. =) |
| 04:53.02 | levi_home | redbeard2: Seen this? http://www.dallasfood.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=78 |
| 04:53.20 | redbeard2 | looking... |
| 04:54.47 | redbeard2 | interesting. i should send that over to art. |
| 04:55.31 | levi_home | redbeard2: I'll bet you can guess what the answer to 'Are Noka's chocolates worth the money?' is. |
| 04:55.57 | Sargun | redbeard2, Finally, I see you |
| 04:56.01 | levi_home | But the pretty thorough analysis of their chocolates and business practices is interesting. |
| 04:56.13 | redbeard2 | levi_home: have you had some |
| 04:56.22 | redbeard2 | Sargun: at last we meet |
| 04:56.31 | levi_home | redbeard2: How's Art's business going? |
| 04:56.52 | levi_home | Nope. |
| 04:56.59 | redbeard2 | levi_home: he's almost ready to release his first batch |
| 04:57.09 | Sargun | redbeard2, I'm going to be back in about 10 minutes |
| 04:57.20 | levi_home | redbeard2: Ahh, I thought they were going to have them out before Christmas. |
| 04:57.41 | redbeard2 | levi_home: i guess not. he's almost there tho |
| 04:58.46 | redbeard2 | $16 for 4 pieces of chocolate? |
| 04:59.03 | redbeard2 | ow |
| 04:59.16 | levi_home | 4 small pieces. |
| 05:00.07 | redbeard2 | amano is expensive, but not that expensive |
| 05:00.30 | levi_home | Amano makes their own chocolate. |
| 05:00.35 | redbeard2 | yeah |
| 05:00.44 | redbeard2 | i was just at the factory yesterday |
| 05:00.49 | levi_home | NoKa does not. |
| 05:01.08 | redbeard2 | i wonder where noka gets theirs |
| 05:01.10 | levi_home | Though they try to mislead you into thinking they do. |
| 05:01.35 | levi_home | And although they won't reveal the source of their coverture, the author discovers it through the process of elimination. |
| 05:01.46 | redbeard2 | yeah, i've run into chocolate companies like that |
| 05:02.01 | redbeard2 | the authors says who? |
| 05:02.49 | levi_home | A relatively small French company. |
| 05:02.52 | levi_home | I don't remember the name. |
| 05:03.16 | levi_home | Apparently good chocolate, but not /that/ good. |
| 05:04.51 | redbeard2 | bonnat? |
| 05:05.28 | levi_home | Yes. |
| 05:05.29 | redbeard2 | the name doesn't sound familiar, but the wrapper looks familiar |
| 05:06.02 | redbeard2 | speaking of overrated chocolate, have you ever heard of scharffenberger? |
| 05:06.14 | levi_home | Nope. |
| 05:06.28 | redbeard2 | based out of san fran |
| 05:06.37 | levi_home | A friend got me a can of Dagoba hot chocolate mix, though. |
| 05:06.43 | redbeard2 | chocolate maker, not chocolatier |
| 05:06.46 | levi_home | Haven't tried any yet. |
| 05:07.02 | redbeard2 | i have a couple of bars of dagoba. i kind of like them. |
| 05:08.09 | levi_home | I've been to the Ghirardelli factory in SF, though. ;) |
| 05:08.27 | redbeard2 | ah, ghirardelli |
| 05:08.40 | redbeard2 | i have a few pounds of that laying around |
| 05:08.50 | redbeard2 | you read the ganache post? |
| 05:09.04 | levi_home | Yup. |
| 05:09.12 | levi_home | Had some ganache the other day. |
| 05:09.26 | levi_home | Used it as icing in a very chocolatey cake. |
| 05:09.28 | redbeard2 | the chocolate i'm chopping up in the first pic is from a 10-lb ghirardelli brick |
| 05:10.12 | levi_home | My last few attempts to make it ended in disaster, though. Breaking chocolate is no fun. |
| 05:10.35 | levi_home | (My mom made the successful batch for the cake) |
| 05:12.16 | redbeard2 | your last _few_ broke? |
| 05:12.22 | redbeard2 | that sucks duder |
| 05:16.17 | levi_home | Well, all on the same day. |
| 05:16.30 | levi_home | Must have heated them too much. |
| 05:16.46 | redbeard2 | yeah, i've done that a few times before |
| 05:16.58 | levi_home | Wife was throwing a fondue party, and I was making it for dessert. |
| 05:17.07 | redbeard2 | they can be saved, but it's not easy and i still question whether it was worth it |
| 05:22.11 | redbeard2 | i hope Sargun gets back soon, i'm getting sleepy |
| 05:22.33 | Sargun | Back! |
| 05:22.36 | Sargun | sorry |
| 05:22.41 | Sargun | thanks for waiting |
| 05:22.57 | Sargun | redbeard2, whats an easy, pretty dish that a geek can make? |
| 05:23.10 | Sargun | A geek with absolutely no clue how to cook. |
| 05:23.58 | Supaplex | guess ramen is out. not very pretty. |
| 05:24.01 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 05:24.29 | redbeard2 | Sargun: i understand the chicken cordon rougue enjoyed some popularity, and it's not hard to make |
| 05:24.36 | redbeard2 | http://blog.josephhall.com/2006/05/chicken-cordon-rouge.html |
| 05:24.37 | herlo | Supaplex: you can add hot dogs and green food coloring. My son calls it 'Octopus Soup', it's pretty then |
| 05:25.11 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 05:25.14 | Sargun | your a professional cook? |
| 05:25.43 | redbeard2 | kind of |
| 05:25.48 | redbeard2 | i'm professionally trained |
| 05:26.00 | redbeard2 | but my day job is as a qa engineer |
| 05:26.02 | Sargun | Ah |
| 05:26.24 | redbeard2 | for the moment |
| 05:26.39 | Sargun | What's the difference between Chicken Cordon Bleu and Chicken Cordon Rougue |
| 05:26.53 | redbeard2 | pepperoni instead of prosciutto |
| 05:27.26 | Sargun | Ah |
| 05:27.29 | redbeard2 | rouge was a name i made up because pepperoni is red |
| 05:27.42 | Sargun | you came up with this? |
| 05:28.02 | redbeard2 | yeah, but i'm sure i'm not the first |
| 05:28.46 | Sargun | Ah |
| 05:29.19 | redbeard2 | you like the recipe? or are you looking for something more impressive? |
| 05:29.27 | Sargun | I can get all elements of the tree from safeway, right? |
| 05:29.35 | Sargun | or a general grocery store |
| 05:29.49 | redbeard2 | yeah |
| 05:30.00 | macnewbold | Sargun: who are you cooking for? |
| 05:30.37 | macnewbold | I was going to guess a 13-year-old girl who may or may not want a VPS... |
| 05:32.20 | Sargun | macnewbold, Haha, very funny. |
| 05:32.29 | Sargun | macnewbold, Uh, 17 year old girlfriend. |
| 05:32.30 | macnewbold | just kidding |
| 05:32.36 | macnewbold | wait, I thought you were 13? |
| 05:32.37 | Sargun | Why? |
| 05:32.57 | Sargun | macnewbold, 16 in like 5 days |
| 05:33.02 | macnewbold | any presentation is all about the audience |
| 05:33.06 | macnewbold | ah, okay :) sorry |
| 05:33.11 | Sargun | Its ok |
| 05:33.41 | macnewbold | is the meal more casual or formal? |
| 05:34.28 | redbeard2 | Sargun: you might want a side starch: http://blog.josephhall.com/2006/03/some-kind-of-curry-thing.html |
| 05:34.45 | redbeard2 | go easy on the curry tho |
| 05:35.31 | Sargun | She hates indian food |
| 05:36.13 | redbeard2 | hmm. that doesn't work then. |
| 05:36.49 | Sargun | I think the chicken sounds good. |
| 05:36.57 | Sargun | What type of food is that? |
| 05:37.29 | redbeard2 | pseudo-french |
| 05:38.48 | Supaplex | like french with less transfat? ;) |
| 05:39.06 | Sargun | haha |
| 05:39.45 | Sargun | I'll try it |
| 05:39.55 | Sargun | and get back to you in a bit (24 hours-ish), thanks. |
| 05:40.39 | redbeard2 | np |
| 05:40.47 | redbeard2 | i'm off to bed, laters |
| 05:41.10 | Sargun | Night. |
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| 13:45.10 | goozbach | welcome to #utah where we talk about linux, open source, the glories of python, and give relationship advice |
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| 14:25.58 | Sargun | hey |
| 14:26.01 | Sargun | haha |
| 14:26.03 | Sargun | yeah |
| 14:26.10 | Sargun | I like the relationship advice part of #utah. |
| 14:26.14 | Sargun | Python is godly. |
| 14:29.27 | goozbach | godly? |
| 14:29.34 | goozbach | I wouldn't go that far |
| 14:29.38 | goozbach | it's a tool, nothing more |
| 14:32.00 | graphyx | Jesus Christ is Godly! |
| 14:33.07 | graphyx | Ok, I love Utopia net!!! |
| 14:33.10 | graphyx | It so Rocks! |
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| 14:34.40 | goozbach | rub it in why don't cha? |
| 14:35.31 | Sargun | haha |
| 14:35.36 | Sargun | I like sonic.net |
| 14:35.45 | Sargun | Copper is sexy. |
| 15:00.02 | atoponce | in perl, how can i apply regex on an array? |
| 15:00.39 | atoponce | specifically, a certain index in the array |
| 15:13.22 | atoponce | would $fields[182] =~ s/\r\n//g; work? |
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| 15:32.02 | goozbach | atoponce: you want to get all the entries in the array that match an array? |
| 15:32.24 | goozbach | or you want to do a substituion in each array item? |
| 15:34.00 | atoponce | the last index in my array has \r\n (a continuing problem from yesterday), so i just want to remove it from the index, which the above did just what i wanted |
| 15:34.04 | atoponce | :) |
| 15:34.15 | goozbach | cool |
| 15:34.43 | atoponce | one question: why can't chomp(); remove *both* \n AND \r? |
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| 15:34.53 | atoponce | it only removes \n, and it's annoying |
| 15:35.05 | atoponce | leaving the \r |
| 15:36.03 | goozbach | atoponce: it can, you have to set a special varible however |
| 15:36.11 | goozbach | I forget which. |
| 15:36.26 | goozbach | basicly you're setting the line ending to macos |
| 15:36.31 | goozbach | macOS that is |
| 15:37.23 | atoponce | isn't \r\n dos? |
| 15:37.41 | goozbach | nope |
| 15:37.43 | goozbach | maybe |
| 15:37.52 | goozbach | yeah |
| 15:38.01 | atoponce | ... |
| 15:38.14 | atoponce | i dedn't know macos used \r\n, but i know dos does |
| 15:38.21 | atoponce | s/de/di/ |
| 15:39.47 | goozbach | I get tehm confuesed |
| 15:39.51 | goozbach | unix is \n |
| 15:39.59 | goozbach | macOS uses \r |
| 15:40.08 | goozbach | and dos uses \r\n |
| 15:40.44 | atoponce | ahh. ok |
| 15:41.38 | atoponce | now is that the case for macos 9 and earlier, as mac os x is based on bsd unix... |
| 15:42.12 | goozbach | no idea |
| 15:42.34 | atoponce | that's ok. i don't deal with mac files at work anyway, but it's good to know |
| 15:42.34 | goozbach | that's one of the reasons for ASCII mode ftp |
| 15:43.07 | goozbach | if you transfered a text file in binary mode you'd end up with broken line endings |
| 15:43.29 | atoponce | ahh. ok |
| 15:43.30 | goozbach | and it's the reason that transfering a binary file in ascii mode corrupts it |
| 15:48.56 | elg | osx now is just like all other unices |
| 15:49.04 | elg | only os 9 is the old "mac" way |
| 15:49.17 | elg | most mac native apps will recognize both |
| 15:49.18 | goozbach | thanks for the info elg |
| 15:49.23 | elg | (modern ones) |
| 15:49.47 | atoponce | cool |
| 15:49.48 | goozbach | you know what's a good groove? |
| 15:49.58 | goozbach | Que Onda Guero by Beck |
| 15:50.29 | atoponce | now to figure out why my OOo Calc is delimiting my fields with a ; rather than a , ... |
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| 16:12.32 | maquis | ~lart jakea |
| 16:12.47 | goozbach | I like the paper airplane game that was on the mac WAY back when |
| 16:12.53 | maquis | goozbach: glider? |
| 16:13.04 | jakea | why all the hat maquis? |
| 16:13.07 | jakea | er, hate |
| 16:13.08 | maquis | i had that running in vmac in freebsd for a while |
| 16:13.24 | maquis | jakea: had to counteract ibot's onjoin :) |
| 16:13.44 | maquis | jakea: there was something i wanted to tell you a month or two ago... but i don't remember what it was... |
| 16:15.00 | goozbach | yeah GLIDER |
| 16:15.05 | goozbach | that was fun |
| 16:15.21 | maquis | goozbach: just setup vmac or something |
| 16:15.38 | maquis | i had it running on OS6, but glider existed on 6, 7 and 8 |
| 16:15.55 | maquis | most of the games i remember are from os8 -- nanosaur, discover the world, etc |
| 16:18.09 | goozbach | there was an old maze game too |
| 16:18.16 | goozbach | I don't remember what it was called |
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| 16:18.48 | maquis | http://www.allstarreview.com/discovertheworldII.html <-- good game... this was my favorite for years |
| 16:22.54 | levi | maquis: Man, you're young. ;P |
| 16:24.02 | maquis | levi: yeah.... so? |
| 16:24.12 | jakea | <---- Old |
| 16:24.29 | levi | maquis: You missed out on the classic games. |
| 16:24.45 | jakea | when I say the words "Knight Rider" in my office, an no one knows what I'm talking about, I feel old |
| 16:24.51 | levi | jakea: Yow. |
| 16:25.06 | levi | Kids these days. |
| 16:25.56 | jakea | ha ha |
| 16:26.54 | levi | I'll bet they don't know Airwolf or Blue Thunder either. |
| 16:30.34 | goozbach | AIRWOLF!!! |
| 16:30.43 | goozbach | wow, I had almost forgotten about that |
| 16:35.06 | levi | How could you forget about Airwolf?! |
| 16:35.38 | goozbach | i said almost |
| 16:36.01 | goozbach | I prefer knight rider anyhow |
| 16:36.06 | elg | i watched an airwolf episode yesterday |
| 16:36.17 | goozbach | so cold medicine, and root access should never be mixed |
| 16:36.28 | goozbach | I just shut down the wrong machine |
| 16:36.31 | goozbach | danggit |
| 16:37.01 | maquis | goozbach: nice... |
| 16:50.57 | elg | so vmware server does sound now? |
| 16:51.31 | levi | http://www.datarealms.com/devlog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/fog.gif |
| 16:52.46 | elg | levi: that's pretty accurate prediction there |
| 16:53.03 | elg | the illustrations are a bit off though but still |
| 16:53.58 | levi | Yeah. It's from 1982, apparently. |
| 16:54.28 | vontrapp | "these games will contain computers..." ? |
| 16:54.56 | goozbach | http://pjammer.livejournal.com/172181.html |
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| 16:57.07 | elg | vontrapp: as opposed to say pinball machines |
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| 16:59.56 | elg | goozbach: that's awesome |
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| 17:01.41 | ^Migs^ | this sucks. I'm finding myself working extra hours (w/o pay) just to cover for the new guy, cuz he's not doing his work |
| 17:02.16 | ^Migs^ | either that, or he's doing it inefficiently |
| 17:02.26 | ^Migs^ | taxpayers are wasting their money paying for his salary, imo |
| 17:04.19 | ^Migs^ | I'm having a long talk with the boss about him when he comes back |
| 17:07.54 | vontrapp | ^Migs^: why do his work? |
| 17:08.50 | ^Migs^ | because he's not doing it, and we have a major deadline approaching |
| 17:09.24 | ^Migs^ | plus he decided to take a vacation next week, so I'm going to have to catch up on all the stuff he's had to do for months in that week |
| 17:09.57 | vontrapp | still, working for free? |
| 17:10.00 | ^Migs^ | he's just messing around with other nonessential, trivial stuff that's outside the scope of his job |
| 17:10.16 | ^Migs^ | I'm salaried anyway |
| 17:10.33 | vontrapp | and that means what? |
| 17:10.33 | ^Migs^ | but still, I've had to put in 100s of extra hours w/o pay anyway |
| 17:10.48 | ^Migs^ | I don't know. It's just how I attempt to rationalize me getting screwed. |
| 17:10.56 | vontrapp | you're contradicting yourself |
| 17:11.06 | ^Migs^ | I suppose so |
| 17:11.06 | vontrapp | i'm salaried so... extra hours without pay... |
| 17:11.54 | ^Migs^ | well, if I arrange it, I can get overtime pay |
| 17:12.29 | vontrapp | anyways, if you really want to see this succeed then go for it i guess |
| 17:12.41 | vontrapp | if you can get overtime pay then bonus |
| 17:12.51 | ^Migs^ | I don't understand why I have to do 95% of the work, he does 5%, yet we get paid the same amount. He gets a free ride, I'm stuck doing everything. |
| 17:12.54 | maquis | vontrapp: the whole point of salaried employees is that they work the hours without complaining |
| 17:13.02 | ^Migs^ | how is that the point? |
| 17:13.05 | vontrapp | maquis: work what hours? |
| 17:13.13 | maquis | ^Migs^: the reason why it works is that you do the extra work |
| 17:13.29 | maquis | if you didn't do it, then it wouldn't work that way and he wouldn't get the free ride |
| 17:13.37 | vontrapp | there are still laws about overtime, no? |
| 17:13.42 | ^Migs^ | you're expected to work 8 hours. Occasionally I'll go over because I want to finish up something for myself. It is NOT acceptable that I have to work extra just to cover for someone else. |
| 17:14.02 | ^Migs^ | I don't like being salaried. |
| 17:14.16 | maquis | from what i've seen, salaried employees tend to work overtime more often than hourly employees |
| 17:14.31 | ^Migs^ | he just goofs around, takes extra long lunch breaks, plays basketball during work hours, while I'm stuck doing all this crap |
| 17:14.56 | maquis | ^Migs^: just tell your boss |
| 17:15.04 | ^Migs^ | trust me, I will |
| 17:15.29 | maquis | tell your boss "my part of the work is done... here it is. here's the part of his work that i've done already. he needs to do the rest of it or it won't get done" |
| 17:15.31 | vontrapp | i just don't get why you have to make up for it |
| 17:15.34 | vontrapp | just leave it undone |
| 17:15.44 | ^Migs^ | that's what I'm going to tell him. Either (a) Get this guy to do his work, or (b) Find someone who will |
| 17:15.48 | ^Migs^ | uh, no |
| 17:15.48 | vontrapp | when the boss comes a knocking, point the finger |
| 17:16.07 | maquis | this is one of the few times when the finger-pointing makes sense |
| 17:16.27 | ^Migs^ | I'm not going to have tens of thousands of disgruntled parents and employees again, like we did in August |
| 17:17.01 | ^Migs^ | that one was because the previous developer did such a half-assed job on the portal, that I couldn't fix the insane number of bugs in time |
| 17:17.08 | ^Migs^ | when I took over, that is |
| 17:18.02 | ^Migs^ | I think this guy is a great asset to our company in many other ways, but he would be better suited somewhere else |
| 17:18.09 | ^Migs^ | in another internal position, I mean |
| 17:18.25 | vontrapp | *shrug* this is why i'm promising myself now to never work lots of extra hours in a salary position |
| 17:18.37 | vontrapp | once in a while is ok |
| 17:18.45 | vontrapp | say 10 hours a month |
| 17:18.48 | ^Migs^ | it used to be once in a while for me, now it's just all the time |
| 17:18.58 | ^Migs^ | I probably do 30 hours a month |
| 17:19.26 | ^Migs^ | new guy works "overtime" too, just messing around |
| 17:19.50 | vontrapp | i just won't do it, if that loses me the job, i'll find a better one |
| 17:22.52 | maquis | it depends on whether you enjoy the job |
| 17:23.17 | maquis | i'm actually enjoying my job a whole ton right now |
| 17:23.40 | vontrapp | "Like I don't live to work, it's more the other way around." --Dupree |
| 17:23.49 | levi | I enjoy mine about a half-ton. |
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| 17:27.55 | bonez39 | half a ton, eh? |
| 17:28.25 | levi | Well, I don't have that new job euphoria anymore. |
| 17:35.57 | ^Migs^ | I enjoy my job a ton too |
| 17:36.03 | ^Migs^ | in a way, it's my dream job, which is why it's hard |
| 17:37.21 | elg | -lart berlios.de |
| 17:38.07 | elg | i'd never discourage anyone from going the extra mile, whether because they love it or whatever other personal reason |
| 17:38.14 | elg | but "because I'm salaried" is exactly the wrong reason |
| 17:38.54 | elg | unless you enjoy delusions, in which case it's ok |
| 17:39.07 | maquis | lol |
| 17:40.15 | elg | "because they're paying me loads of money and giving me health insurance and I feel great about that" |
| 17:40.18 | elg | is an ok reason |
| 17:40.30 | elg | i'd call that loyalty. loyalty is good |
| 17:40.34 | elg | when earned |
| 17:42.15 | maquis | true... but i think a company would generally prefer to have a salaried employee do overtime over having an hourly person do it (generally)... not necessarily the best practice, but for the average company, it makes sense |
| 17:43.16 | levi | Well, of course. Companies would prefer to spend less money. |
| 17:45.03 | vontrapp | employers have to pay time and a half for overtime |
| 17:45.09 | vontrapp | is there something similar for salary? |
| 17:46.03 | ^Migs^ | I only get time and a half if I arrange it beforehand |
| 17:46.12 | ^Migs^ | generally, though, I just get "thumbs up" if I work overtime |
| 17:46.44 | levi | There's no legal requirement to pay exempt employees overtime, IIRC. |
| 17:46.49 | ^Migs^ | that's pretty much it. This isn't the kind of job that has any perks, so I don't get any extra bonuses for working harder |
| 17:47.20 | ^Migs^ | I could just sit on my butt all day, I guess, like new guy, and still be in pretty much the same state |
| 17:47.38 | ^Migs^ | I'm already jobhunting, so hopefully I wont' have to deal with this much longer |
| 17:48.02 | ^Migs^ | I'm extremely good at what I do, and I'm not going to waste my time babysitting |
| 17:52.51 | maquis | yeah, for us it's usually "thumbs up" and the fact that if we don't have stuff that needs to get done, they don't mind us going home early at times... |
| 17:54.44 | ^Migs^ | we have a fingerprint scanner/timekeeper here where we clock in/clock out, but I don't even know why we have it |
| 17:54.51 | ^Migs^ | it's kind of a waste |
| 17:54.55 | ^Migs^ | maybe for pseudoauditing |
| 17:57.22 | ^Migs^ | I've occasionally had to leave early at times, and no one's complained |
| 17:57.23 | maquis | we have keycards... for coming in/out... i'm sure those could be used for timekeeping |
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| 17:59.01 | elg | of course companies would rather have salaried work more for "free" |
| 17:59.33 | elg | even if 60-hour workweeks are figured into the salary from the very beginning, it's an already-budgeted already-dealt-with expense |
| 18:04.07 | atoponce | herlo: still want those jazz tickets? |
| 18:04.20 | herlo | oh, yeah |
| 18:04.28 | herlo | umm, where are they again? and when? |
| 18:04.55 | atoponce | jan 24 7pm (wed) at the delta center playing the memphis grizzlies |
| 18:05.06 | atoponce | row 20 |
| 18:05.14 | atoponce | right behind larry miller |
| 18:06.01 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 18:06.04 | ^Migs^ | I want jazz tickets |
| 18:10.03 | atoponce | ^Migs^: i'm selling them for $150 obo |
| 18:10.09 | atoponce | or... |
| 18:10.22 | atoponce | i have row 1 vip tickets to the same game for $650 obo |
| 18:10.35 | atoponce | vip tix come with vip parking as well. |
| 18:10.37 | mrpull | atoponce: 150 each? |
| 18:10.43 | atoponce | mrpull: no, for the pair |
| 18:10.59 | atoponce | $650 for the pair of front row tix also |
| 18:11.20 | mrpull | it is fun to sit close... but i've been spoiled and never had to pay |
| 18:11.31 | atoponce | mrpull: have you had vip? |
| 18:11.43 | mrpull | yeah. |
| 18:11.59 | atoponce | front row is one thing, vip is a completely different ball game (no pun intended) |
| 18:12.00 | mrpull | "free" dinner and refreshments are nice too :) |
| 18:12.11 | atoponce | yeah |
| 18:12.41 | mrpull | and "free" programs and parking |
| 18:12.43 | atoponce | both tickets are in the same section as larry miller. with the front row (one up from floor), you can rub his bald head :) |
| 18:12.50 | mrpull | it is different (and better) |
| 18:12.56 | mrpull | and best when someone else pays :) |
| 18:13.33 | atoponce | yeah. after having row 1 vip, it's difficult to go if you're sitting elsewhere |
| 18:13.46 | atoponce | it's spoils you rotton |
| 18:13.51 | atoponce | s/on/en/ |
| 18:14.28 | mrpull | nah, I've sat right behind miller and near the last row |
| 18:14.38 | mrpull | i just like to get out and scream a bit |
| 18:15.28 | atoponce | pardon me, $600 obo. i'm doing $750 for all 4 |
| 18:16.01 | atoponce | so if anyone wants to purchase a belated christmas gift for a loved one.... |
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| 18:17.07 | mrpull | i'm going on the 22nd and have a conflict on the 24th |
| 18:17.39 | mrpull | otherwise the row 20 seats could be desirable |
| 18:17.52 | mrpull | atoponce: maybe you should try stubhub |
| 18:18.22 | atoponce | i've got current offers on all 4 with herlo nabbing 2, if he still wants 'em |
| 18:20.08 | herlo | atoponce: let me know if you can't sell them to these guys...I'll take 'em off your hands if they don't want them... |
| 18:20.35 | atoponce | herlo: they're all yours, unless someone wants to give me a better offer. :) |
| 18:21.11 | herlo | k, I've got to see if my dad will be around that day... |
| 18:21.22 | atoponce | ak |
| 18:21.23 | atoponce | ok |
| 18:21.31 | atoponce | ibot: correct my spelling |
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| 18:40.00 | ^Migs^ | $600? wtf? |
| 18:40.20 | ^Migs^ | how much is a Jazz ticket if you just buy it from the ticket office? |
| 18:40.54 | atoponce | ^Migs^: these vip row 1 tix go for $350 a pop, or $700 for the pair |
| 18:41.01 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 18:41.12 | atoponce | at the tix office |
| 18:41.25 | ^Migs^ | I must be spoiled. Every time I've gotten VIP tix I've gotten them for free. |
| 18:41.31 | atoponce | non-vip i think is $120 per ticket, iirc |
| 18:41.36 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 18:41.38 | ^Migs^ | $120!? |
| 18:41.46 | ^Migs^ | I was thinking, like, $50 tops |
| 18:41.47 | atoponce | yeah. something like that |
| 18:41.57 | atoponce | for this section, that is |
| 18:42.01 | ^Migs^ | wow, what a rip-off |
| 18:42.09 | dilvie | where are you getting vip tix? |
| 18:42.11 | ^Migs^ | how much are season tickets? |
| 18:42.14 | dilvie | hook me up man |
| 18:42.14 | atoponce | about the 3-point line (near mid-court) |
| 18:42.17 | ^Migs^ | just here and there |
| 18:42.22 | ^Migs^ | occasionally. Not all that often. |
| 18:42.27 | dilvie | here and where? |
| 18:42.30 | dilvie | I want them. |
| 18:42.34 | ^Migs^ | I don't have any now |
| 18:42.43 | dilvie | well, keep me in mind. |
| 18:42.44 | atoponce | ^Migs^: i have no idea how much season tix are |
| 18:42.58 | dilvie | next time you get your hands on tickets you don't plan to use.. |
| 18:43.09 | ^Migs^ | like the credit union gives them, or one of my coworkers just hands me some, or just random strangers giving them away |
| 18:43.16 | ^Migs^ | I always use them |
| 18:43.20 | ^Migs^ | why wouldn't I use them? |
| 18:43.26 | ^Migs^ | I enjoy a Jazz game as much as anyone else |
| 18:43.53 | ^Migs^ | I made up that random stranger, btw |
| 18:44.24 | ^Migs^ | but it made me sound cool |
| 18:44.29 | dilvie | I need to join a credit union that gives away vip tickets |
| 18:44.58 | ^Migs^ | it's only cuz my dad's on the board of directors that he gets them |
| 18:45.10 | dilvie | Oh. |
| 18:45.14 | atoponce | http://www.energysolutionsarena.com/arena_basketball.cfm |
| 18:45.15 | dilvie | I see. |
| 18:45.18 | atoponce | section 17 |
| 18:45.28 | atoponce | for all 4 |
| 18:45.36 | ^Migs^ | these vip tickets include free dinner in the VIP lounge, too |
| 18:45.55 | atoponce | yeah. |
| 18:45.55 | ^Migs^ | we went last year around this time |
| 18:46.03 | dilvie | <%@LANGUAGE="JAVASCRIPT" CODEPAGE="1252"%> |
| 18:46.04 | ^Migs^ | so that certainly owns |
| 18:46.11 | dilvie | oops |
| 18:46.12 | ^Migs^ | thanks for that, dilvie |
| 18:46.12 | atoponce | the seats for all 4 are about the foul line |
| 18:46.50 | dilvie | thanks for what? |
| 18:46.59 | ^Migs^ | /datasafe/Portal/xsl/activationCodes_fo.xsl |
| 18:47.01 | ^Migs^ | for posting oops |
| 18:47.06 | ^Migs^ | /datasafe/Portal/xsl/activationCodes_fo.xsl |
| 18:47.07 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 18:47.11 | dilvie | haha |
| 18:47.13 | dilvie | w3rd |
| 18:47.15 | ^Migs^ | for posint <%@LANGUAGE="JAVASCRIPT" CODEPAGE="1252"%> |
| 18:47.20 | ^Migs^ | s/posint/posting/ |
| 18:47.27 | ^Migs^ | holy crap, never mind |
| 18:47.33 | dilvie | I just thought it was funny |
| 18:47.38 | ^Migs^ | me 2 |
| 18:47.47 | atoponce | dilvie: yeah. what's up with that? :) |
| 18:47.55 | dilvie | energysolutionsarena code |
| 18:48.03 | ^Migs^ | hurry and patent it! |
| 18:48.07 | dilvie | their website rules. |
| 18:48.13 | atoponce | must be |
| 18:48.21 | dilvie | you can't patent code |
| 18:48.25 | atoponce | their website is as good as the name... |
| 18:48.32 | dilvie | you can patent ideas |
| 18:48.48 | dilvie | diagrams that explain code |
| 18:48.50 | dilvie | but not code |
| 18:51.08 | dilvie | delta center was a much better name |
| 18:51.23 | goozbach | pimp! |
| 18:51.37 | goozbach | catalyist is in ubunutu's repos |
| 18:51.51 | mrpull | dilvie: I propose we all start calling the ESA the "Salt Palace" |
| 18:51.52 | goozbach | s/catalyist/catalyst/ |
| 18:52.03 | goozbach | pimptacular |
| 18:53.03 | macnewbold | mrpull, dilvie: I liked "the Melta Center" too |
| 18:53.13 | dilvie | mrpull: won't people confuse it with the /actual/ salt palace? |
| 18:53.41 | mrpull | yeah. that is part of the fun. |
| 18:54.01 | dilvie | hmm |
| 18:54.02 | mrpull | something that is just obnoxious enough to be annoying |
| 18:54.18 | mrpull | but makes enough sense to confuse those who don't follow it |
| 18:54.19 | dilvie | let's call it the artist formerly known as delta |
| 18:54.35 | mrpull | dilvie: and its symbol? |
| 18:54.50 | goozbach | the CENTER formerly known as Delta |
| 18:54.57 | dilvie | haha |
| 18:55.00 | dilvie | I like it. |
| 18:55.33 | goozbach | I still refer to Will Smith as the artist formerly known as the fresh prince |
| 18:56.24 | dilvie | haha |
| 18:56.26 | dilvie | w3rd |
| 18:56.54 | dilvie | what ever happened to jazzy jeff? |
| 18:56.54 | mrpull | dh jazzy jeff got screwed in that whole deal |
| 18:56.54 | mrpull | ~wiki dj jazzy jeff |
| 19:02.52 | ^Migs^ | what kind of stupid name is Energy Solutions Arena? |
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| 19:03.01 | ^Migs^ | is it an energy-conscious place now? |
| 19:03.30 | mrpull | ^migs^: they stash low level radio active waste in the basement |
| 19:03.36 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 19:04.46 | ^Migs^ | I wonder if I could power my house in that fashion |
| 19:05.05 | ^Migs^ | as an added bonus, your house would emit an eerie green glow at night |
| 19:05.18 | ^Migs^ | my garden would probably grow super mutant vegetables, too |
| 19:05.43 | ^Migs^ | nice tomacco field |
| 19:07.12 | goozbach | tomacco! |
| 19:07.13 | goozbach | hah! |
| 19:07.24 | goozbach | "this tastes like smoking" |
| 19:07.39 | goozbach | s/smoking/grandma/ |
| 19:07.44 | goozbach | bah |
| 19:07.53 | goozbach | my references are all over the place today |
| 19:08.55 | ^Migs^ | s/references/peanuts/ |
| 19:09.24 | ^Migs^ | ibot should really be modified so you can s// others' comments. That would be funny. |
| 19:09.50 | ^Migs^ | we could have hours of fun with that |
| 19:09.55 | ^Migs^ | well, I could, at least |
| 19:10.13 | maquis | ^Migs^: yet another reason not to add that feature |
| 19:17.51 | dilvie | hahahaha |
| 19:18.03 | dilvie | very good reason |
| 19:21.11 | maquis | i'm glad *somebody* agrees with me |
| 19:21.39 | levi | I agree too. Far too dangerous to let fall into the hands of ^Migs^. |
| 19:22.40 | levi | Hah, arp flood created by a switch loop. Whoops! |
| 19:24.11 | maquis | cool |
| 19:49.46 | mrpull | spanning tree protocol is our friend |
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| 20:39.07 | Sargun | When is the FCC going to do their votes? |
| 21:06.34 | ^Migs^ | http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2006/12/ipod_vending_ma.html |
| 21:12.04 | tristanbob | will a microATX motherboard fit on an ATX case? |
| 21:12.57 | SB1-Laptop | yup |
| 21:13.11 | SB1-Laptop | At least, it should |
| 21:13.34 | mrpull | ^migs^: i've seen those around, and each time somebody was swiping their credit card |
| 21:13.34 | SB1-Laptop | I don't know if it's mandated that ATX cases have the screw positions for micro ATX, but in every case I've ever seen, they work |
| 21:14.18 | tristanbob | SB1-Laptop: thanks! |
| 21:14.20 | mrpull | i know for sure I've seen them in ATL, but it seems i've seen them at other airports too (maybe RDU) |
| 21:20.02 | SB1-Laptop | tristanbob, sure |
| 21:21.27 | tristanbob | mrpull: I also say the one at ATL |
| 21:21.49 | tristanbob | s/say/saw |
| 21:21.55 | tristanbob | s/say/saw/ |
| 21:21.59 | ^Migs^ | is an iPod worth $300? |
| 21:26.43 | maquis | ^Migs^: which one are you looking at? |
| 21:27.05 | maquis | ^Migs^: it's definitely worth it more than the 1GB gold and diamonds mp3 player that's selling for 20,000$ |
| 21:27.05 | [phoenyx] | ^Migs^: supply and demand would seem to make it so |
| 21:27.50 | [phoenyx] | maquis: a reference to the article he posted |
| 21:31.20 | maquis | [phoenyx]: ah |
| 21:39.23 | levi | I got an 8Gb iPod Nano for Christmas. I love it. |
| 21:39.54 | levi | My brother had one of the video iPods with the A/V dock, and we watched a whole season of a TV show with it. |
| 21:40.25 | levi | The A/V dock has a nifty remote control, too. |
| 21:51.35 | levi | maquis: Get yourself a Coke or some Penguin mints or something. ;) |
| 21:55.13 | maquis | levi: i just grabbed sugar and cold water... |
| 21:55.24 | maquis | ~curse silly perl issues |
| 21:55.25 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, silly perl issues ! |
| 21:55.31 | maquis | uh oh |
| 21:55.34 | levi | Well, that's two of the essential ingredients to Coke. |
| 21:55.40 | levi | ~curse perl |
| 21:55.42 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, perl ! |
| 21:57.54 | maquis | levi: i don't think it would be good to have perl administering winxp |
| 21:58.45 | levi | Perl is a great sysadmin tool, though it is not quite as well-suited to WinXP as it is to unixoid OSes. |
| 22:00.14 | levi | Unix sysadmins have already twisted their brains with crazy crap like awk and shell script, so perl is 'natural' to them. |
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| 22:31.53 | levi | Anyone know off the top of their head what the timeout option when creating a socket in perl does? |
| 22:32.22 | Tene | using 'socket' to create it? |
| 22:33.16 | levi | I'm using the object interface. |
| 22:33.40 | Tene | what package name? |
| 22:33.47 | Tene | just Socket? |
| 22:33.54 | Tene | 'cause perldoc Socket doesn't mention timeouts at all. |
| 22:34.19 | levi | IO::Socket |
| 22:34.48 | levi | The perldoc for it is rather unhelpful. |
| 22:35.05 | levi | It says that the timeout subroutine sets the timeout for the socket! |
| 22:35.45 | levi | It doesn't mention where that timeout value is actually used, or how to handle timeouts, or anything of that sort. |
| 22:36.09 | levi | Have I mentioned before that I hate perl? |
| 22:37.21 | levi | I may go implement some SIGALRM thing I saw to do a timeout on my network read, but resorting to SIGALRM seems icky. |
| 22:39.17 | Tene | the timeout is for reading or accepting |
| 23:00.46 | levi | Tene: Is it supposed to work for recv? |
| 23:00.57 | Tene | levi: I think so |
| 23:01.04 | levi | Hmm. |
| 23:02.00 | levi | It doesn't seem to be. |
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| 23:03.18 | Tene | might just be for Accept, then. |
| 23:04.07 | levi | I guess I'll have to figure out how to use perl's select interface, then. |
| 23:05.39 | Tene | what are you wanting to do, anyway? |
| 23:07.39 | levi | I'm listening on a single UDP port continuously and I occasionally want to run another task. |
| 23:21.56 | macnewbold | levi: generally select takes a timeout, so you can let it wait for a bit, selecting, then when it times out, decide whether to wait more or do something else first |
| 23:21.58 | synic | bah, I went all the way to ebay and pasted that number for a wireless usb adapter? |
| 23:22.05 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 23:22.10 | macnewbold | glad I didn't fall for it yet |
| 23:22.18 | macnewbold | Supaplex: are you in SLC or somewhere else? |
| 23:22.23 | levi | macnewbold: Yeah, I got it to work the way I want. |
| 23:22.28 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 23:22.46 | Supaplex | macnewbold: yes. |
| 23:22.48 | levi | synic: I felt similarly cheated. |
| 23:22.54 | macnewbold | cause I won't charge you shipping on a wireless USB adapter if you want to pick it up |
| 23:23.01 | macnewbold | what brand is it? |
| 23:23.06 | Supaplex | linksys |
| 23:23.26 | macnewbold | I've got one I'm not using, if you want to buy it |
| 23:23.42 | macnewbold | (it is used, but only for a time) |
| 23:24.02 | Supaplex | orinoco based? |
| 23:24.07 | macnewbold | no idea |
| 23:24.19 | macnewbold | it's a couple of years old I think |
| 23:24.26 | macnewbold | if that makes any difference |
| 23:24.57 | Supaplex | I have a mips based router with usb host controller. Can't use some hacktacular kludge, has to be supported by a mainstream linux kernel driver :) |
| 23:25.15 | Supaplex | s/a/some/ s/router/routers/ |
| 23:27.11 | elg | so I got x-plane for christmas |
| 23:27.19 | levi | elg: How is it? |
| 23:27.30 | elg | I figured out how to circumvent the stupid "have the dvd in the drive" copy protection |
| 23:27.48 | elg | it's cool, but not hands down better than flightgear |
| 23:28.02 | macnewbold | Supaplex: I haven't tried it on linux nor freebsd that I can recall, but you're welcome to try it and give it back if it doesn't work. like I said, I'm not using it for anythig at the moment |
| 23:28.04 | elg | more polished. nicer graphics. nicer audio |
| 23:28.31 | elg | supposedly more realistic flight model than flightgear, but I'm skeptical of that since flightgear is all about flight models in academia |
| 23:28.41 | elg | and a general use flight simulator second |
| 23:28.56 | elg | but x-plane doesn't have 3-d cockpits for most of its planes |
| 23:29.01 | macnewbold | you could get it from me easily in the Foothill Village area or "Lower Sugarhouse" about 700 E and I-80 (2400 S) |
| 23:29.08 | elg | and some of them that do have it the instruments are too big anyway so it's useless |
| 23:29.41 | mrpull | elg: I got a hobbyzone super cub for christmas |
| 23:29.47 | mrpull | I don't know how to fly it, but I'm excited |
| 23:29.53 | elg | I think x-plane uses more ram |
| 23:30.19 | elg | x-plane simulates ATC to an extent, which is fun. |
| 23:30.30 | elg | in short, I think i'll use both depending on what I want out of that flight |
| 23:30.56 | elg | mrpull: cool |
| 23:31.08 | elg | I also got an E6-B for Christmas :) |
| 23:32.35 | dataw0lf | e6bs are awesome. |
| 23:33.14 | elg | flightgear also has a lot more (free) planes |
| 23:33.52 | elg | x-plane only has 1 basic plane (cessna 172 iirc) and 2 other general aviation complex planes. the rest are silly things like jets and space shuttles |
| 23:33.55 | dataw0lf | I have CoPilot on my Treo, it's pretty slick. |
| 23:34.24 | elg | which are fun, but I like the wider selection of flightgear |
| 23:34.45 | elg | what is CoPilot? |
| 23:35.10 | dataw0lf | flight planning software |
| 23:36.17 | elg | cool |
| 23:36.29 | elg | I looked at some of that for PC earlier today. it's a sorry scene |
| 23:36.43 | elg | fplan is ancient, but the closest to what I'd want |
| 23:36.56 | dataw0lf | if you got a Palm device, there's loads of software for PalmOS |
| 23:37.13 | elg | i do have one. I might have to dig it out and try some |
| 23:37.13 | dataw0lf | I just need to get _5_ more hours and I'll have my private RW license. |
| 23:37.21 | elg | awesome |
| 23:37.43 | dataw0lf | http://lauriedavis9.tripod.com/copilot/ |
| 23:38.55 | elg | how big is the db? |
| 23:39.08 | elg | does it work on old b&w devices like my ol' handspring visor? |
| 23:39.17 | graphyx | RW? |
| 23:39.26 | graphyx | read write? |
| 23:39.36 | dataw0lf | I dunno, it might. You can get various waypoint dbs, but it doesn't come with one stock. |
| 23:39.37 | goozbach | real world? |
| 23:39.42 | dataw0lf | rotary wing |
| 23:39.43 | dataw0lf | helicopter |
| 23:39.46 | goozbach | ahh |
| 23:41.06 | elg | oh so you enter your own waypoints. |
| 23:41.23 | elg | that's fine by me, there seem to be a lot of problems with waypoint DBs |
| 23:41.41 | elg | do you only fly choppers? |
| 23:42.36 | dataw0lf | yea, no interest in fixed wing aircraft, really. |
| 23:43.08 | dataw0lf | plus, my instructor here in Nevada was one of my UH-60 pilots when I was in the military, so I trust him ;) |
| 23:45.27 | elg | cool. I understand as I have no real interest in rotary wing either. or jets. I just love the general aviation fixed wing stuff |
| 23:45.52 | elg | i think i'm getting rudder pedals for christmas too, when we go to the inlaws tomorrow |
| 23:46.24 | glitch- | i wanted to run mtr on my box but i had an error mtr: error while loading shared libraries: libXext.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory and i wanted to know how cand i found out in which package is libXext.so.6 |
| 23:47.04 | dataw0lf | elg: they're definitely different worlds, that's for sure. |
| 23:47.25 | dataw0lf | it's strange, too, because most of the chopper pilots I've known have never touched fixed wing aircraft. |
| 23:49.56 | elg | x-plane has several choppers, though I haven't tried them |
| 23:50.47 | dataw0lf | my buddy basically learned how to fly a helicopter with a simulator that came with his remote controlled diesel fueled helicopter in the military |
| 23:50.58 | dataw0lf | so now he's flying rich people between the islands in Hawaii :) |
| 23:51.17 | levi | A co-worker of mine is really into RC helicopters. |
| 23:51.27 | levi | Flies them in competitions and stuff. |
| 23:51.59 | dataw0lf | they're almost as hard as flying an actual helicopter, it's pretty sweet |
| 23:52.11 | elg | fun |
| 23:52.13 | macnewbold | I know a guy who's into the rc choppers and model rockets |
| 23:52.34 | elg | i think bush pilot in alaska or the hawaii thing would be a good backup career. :) |
| 23:53.09 | dataw0lf | elg: yea, that's what I've been thinking ;-) |
| 23:53.26 | dataw0lf | I could work contract while living in Hawaii flying people around occasionally. |
| 23:53.43 | dataw0lf | and, in hawaii, I could fulfill my dream of living in a yacht, too |
| 23:53.49 | elg | my wife would probably not go for alaska, but maybe hawaii |
| 23:53.57 | elg | a yacht with a helicopter pad |
| 23:57.20 | dataw0lf | elg: dude. a yacht with a chopper pad. |
| 23:57.40 | dataw0lf | that is the sweetest thing I've ever considered in my long career of imagining things that won't happen. |
| 23:57.51 | elg | with a chopper too |
| 23:58.07 | dataw0lf | that's color coordinated with the yacht. |
| 23:58.38 | dataw0lf | you can live next to me in a decked out seaplane. |
| 23:58.50 | dataw0lf | imagine the parties! |
| 23:59.10 | elg | sweet |
| 23:59.13 | dataw0lf | "Ok folks, we're going to be climbing to 8,000 feet, please keep the keg in the rear of the aircraft" |
