| 00:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, I wardrove all the way home |
| 00:08.02 | findlay | you wardriver |
| 00:08.05 | ScytheBlade1 | 563 APs found |
| 00:08.09 | findlay | wow |
| 00:08.11 | ScytheBlade1 | A mere 118 with any form of crypto |
| 00:08.13 | nick125_lappy | heh |
| 00:08.22 | nick125_lappy | I went wardriving around here for 2 hours a few weeks ago |
| 00:08.29 | findlay | I bet you could have downloaded a whole iso on that with a little scripting |
| 00:08.34 | nick125_lappy | 1,198 access points |
| 00:08.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going to grab a friend and actually go wardriving tonight |
| 00:08.47 | nick125_lappy | less then 300 were encrypted |
| 00:08.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I just got a bluetooth GPS device |
| 00:09.09 | ScytheBlade1 | His laptop + my laptop + DC --> AC car converter + small powerstrip |
| 00:09.18 | findlay | you should see how much you can download while wardriving and then blog about it and digg it |
| 00:09.21 | nick125_lappy | nice |
| 00:09.40 | nick125_lappy | ScytheBlade1: last time I went wardriving, I just used a car lighter plug for my laptop |
| 00:09.41 | ScytheBlade1 | How much I can download? |
| 00:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | nick125_lappy, exactly, only two laptops here.. |
| 00:10.00 | nick125_lappy | but, I only had my laptop |
| 00:10.09 | nick125_lappy | i've wanted to do the "ultimate wardriving setup" |
| 00:10.10 | findlay | "Man Did All His Christmas Shopping Online While Wardriving" |
| 00:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 00:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Zing |
| 00:10.23 | nick125_lappy | basically, a WRAP board with a huge wifi antenna |
| 00:10.39 | nick125_lappy | it would run kismet, and, you could access it via ssh + screen |
| 00:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a soekris with two wifi cards in it |
| 00:10.49 | levi_home | lars-ut: I'm in Steilacoom, just south of Tacoma. |
| 00:10.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Makes it nice to scan b/g and a at the same time |
| 00:11.03 | nick125_lappy | ScytheBlade1: yeah |
| 00:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Then just run kismet-drone on it, and connect kismet-client on another device |
| 00:11.14 | nick125_lappy | ScytheBlade1: yeah |
| 00:11.16 | ScytheBlade1 | MUCH lighter on the small, low-end boards |
| 00:11.20 | nick125_lappy | I forgot about that |
| 00:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | My laptop will sport the bluetooth connection to the GPS device, and run gpsd on 0.0.0.0 so his laptop can access the GPS also |
| 00:14.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll scan the A, he'll scan the b/g |
| 00:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll work well |
| 00:16.36 | findlay | no n? (: |
| 00:17.00 | nick125_lappy | isn't N backward compatible with b/g? |
| 00:17.34 | findlay | I don't know |
| 00:17.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Should be |
| 00:17.46 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc N is just WPA not WEP |
| 00:17.58 | ScytheBlade1 | or was that I |
| 00:18.00 | findlay | good thing too |
| 00:18.14 | ScytheBlade1 | err, no, N is that new one |
| 00:18.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I is WPA |
| 00:18.45 | findlay | i |
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| 00:19.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone here know what the name of the program is that will sniff wireless packets and crack the wep key being used? |
| 00:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | aircrack |
| 00:19.36 | Lone_Wanderer | will it run on Windows or do I need to put it on a what'sit CD? |
| 00:19.42 | ScytheBlade1 | *nix |
| 00:19.46 | findlay | livecd |
| 00:20.15 | ScytheBlade1 | airsnort, aircrack, and one other iirc |
| 00:20.59 | Lone_Wanderer | livecd doesn't come with aircrack does it? |
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| 00:22.09 | findlay | google for one |
| 00:22.30 | Tene | aireplay is helpful |
| 00:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the other one |
| 00:22.40 | Tene | and starts with 'ait' |
| 00:22.42 | Tene | erm |
| 00:22.44 | Tene | 'air' |
| 00:22.44 | Lone_Wanderer | livecd + aircrack seems to be doing it for me |
| 00:22.51 | Lone_Wanderer | on the nUbuntu one |
| 00:27.05 | nick125_lappy | aircrack-ng |
| 00:27.31 | nick125_lappy | (it's better then aircrack) |
| 00:28.05 | findlay | although the '-ng' is kitschy |
| 00:28.23 | findlay | because everybody does it |
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| 00:49.31 | Lone_Wanderer | what's -ng? |
| 00:50.40 | jsmith | Lone_Wanderer: "next generation" |
| 00:50.45 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 00:56.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Hrm... anyone know if champagne will explode if you let it freeze? |
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| 01:06.31 | Lone_Wanderer | this is weird, look at this page |
| 01:06.32 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.mazda626.net/ |
| 01:16.17 | nick125_lappy | question: AMD or Intel (for servers)? |
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| 01:23.43 | findlay | heh |
| 01:23.51 | findlay | good question |
| 01:25.48 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd go with Intel, personally. But I'm sure they both will work just fine. |
| 01:27.37 | findlay | ~lart portaudio |
| 01:28.01 | findlay | lousy sound API heterogenity |
| 01:28.26 | Lone_Wanderer | ohh, time for Borat |
| 01:28.27 | Lone_Wanderer | later all |
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| 01:59.45 | jbellis | # getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION |
| 01:59.46 | jbellis | linuxthreads-0.10 |
| 01:59.50 | jbellis | how can i switch that to NPTL? |
| 02:01.01 | findlay | you may need a brand new kernel |
| 02:01.22 | findlay | distro and kernel version? |
| 02:04.39 | nick125_lappy | you need a new glibc IIRC |
| 02:05.00 | findlay | NPTL libc and NTPL kernel |
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| 02:17.03 | calvarez | in order to learn python, I am doing the CS142 labs in it, lol |
| 02:18.12 | Tene | http://www.guerrillafunk.com/thoughts/doc000023.html |
| 02:18.17 | jbellis | this is debian sarge, 2.4.27 |
| 02:18.27 | jbellis | i will upgrade kernel |
| 02:20.23 | nick125_lappy | calvarez: you could write an IRC bot.. |
| 02:21.11 | calvarez | I might sometime |
| 02:21.26 | calvarez | good idea, in fact |
| 02:21.32 | calvarez | thank you! |
| 02:22.12 | Tene | nick125_lappy: use Perl6! |
| 02:22.21 | Tene | I've submitted patches to the perl6 Net::IRC |
| 02:23.04 | nick125_lappy | Tene: I really don't feel like shooting myself in the foot |
| 02:24.30 | Tene | I don't understand what that means. |
| 02:26.43 | nick125_lappy | great, this stupid POS won't connect to the SMTP server |
| 02:28.07 | nick125_lappy | anyone here know of a light SMTP server that can just send mail outbound? |
| 02:28.18 | nick125_lappy | (postfix is on my nerves) |
| 02:28.38 | Tene | I always use sendmail. |
| 02:28.50 | Tene | Which isn't what you're asking for. |
| 02:29.18 | calvarez | Tene, I am trying to learn Python, that's why nick125_lappy suggested an ircbot |
| 02:29.56 | calvarez | anyways, I did the 1st 3 labs for CS142 in python, it was interesting, lol |
| 02:30.06 | calvarez | so much shorter than my Java versions |
| 02:33.06 | jbellis | upgrading to kernel 2.6 magically fixed ntpl, thanks findlay |
| 02:35.20 | jbellis | nptl* |
| 02:35.43 | nick125_lappy | hmm |
| 02:35.58 | nick125_lappy | I've got a question about my IRC bot (it sends emails to notify people if someone needs help) |
| 02:36.38 | nick125_lappy | well, it takes 3-5 seconds to connect to the SMTP server..should I connect at the beginning when the IRC bot starts up, or, should I just connect when it sends a message? |
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| 03:03.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Chances are good if it just connected and sat, it'd eventually get an idle disconnect. |
| 03:13.29 | nick125_lappy | ScytheBlade1: true.. |
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| 05:06.14 | findlay | ibot: what did you do? |
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| 06:05.24 | calvarez | ok, quick poll: for a small web server, OpenSUSE or Ubuntu? (no other suggestions please) |
| 06:06.03 | nick125_lappy | I personally dislike RPM-based distros |
| 06:06.13 | nick125_lappy | and ubuntu is really close to debian |
| 06:06.15 | nick125_lappy | so, ubuntu |
| 06:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the undo button in vim? |
| 06:07.03 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, never mind. |
| 06:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | It's "u". |
| 06:07.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Gasp. |
| 06:13.08 | ScytheBlade1 | vim might be amazingly nice |
| 06:18.04 | calvarez | I can't stand it |
| 06:18.22 | calvarez | either vim or emacs, for all that matter |
| 06:47.26 | nick125_lappy | calvarez: what do you use then? |
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| 07:10.55 | calvarez | I use Visual Studio usually |
| 07:11.31 | Supaplex | you are the slow. nick125_lappy asked that yesterday :-P |
| 07:11.41 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 07:11.48 | calvarez | not according to my timezone :) I win |
| 07:11.58 | nick125_lappy | according to my timezone, it was yesterday |
| 07:12.07 | calvarez | well, your timezone is just wrong |
| 07:12.09 | Supaplex | you're in the #utah timezone. |
| 07:12.11 | calvarez | objectively speaking |
| 07:12.21 | calvarez | no, I'm not |
| 07:12.25 | calvarez | EST here |
| 07:12.59 | Supaplex | nick125_lappy: what do you think? :) |
| 07:13.28 | Supaplex | I'm looking at calvarez's text, and it's in #utah, so yeah, it's the same all around. ;) |
| 07:13.37 | nick125_lappy | well, most of #utah is in MST |
| 07:14.15 | Supaplex | nite =-) |
| 07:14.35 | Supaplex | haha then it's settled. ZzzzzZZzz... |
| 07:15.32 | calvarez | so, if most people do it, it must be right... |
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| 07:47.45 | bonez41 | anyone on at this hour? |
| 07:48.30 | SB1-Laptop | Not anymore! |
| 07:50.00 | bonez41 | shoot... |
| 07:50.26 | Tene | bonez41: yeah |
| 07:50.30 | bonez41 | for over 2 years now...we've had the same IP address at home, on comcast.....today though, I guess they finally switched it...I can't ssh anymore from work to home..... |
| 07:50.46 | Tene | http://checkip.dyndns.org/ |
| 07:50.57 | bonez41 | how do I set up my linux box....on my home network , so that whether comcast alters our IP...I can still ssh and scp to my machine? |
| 07:51.22 | Tene | That shouldn't matter at all. |
| 07:51.28 | bonez41 | that tells me the same as 'whatismyipaddress.com' |
| 07:51.49 | Tene | Yeah... you're saying that ssh to that address doesn't connect? |
| 07:52.18 | bonez41 | well, at my domain registrar...namecheap.com.....the domain 'zugraum.com' is pointed at the old IP address......I am sure if I change where it's pointed, I will again have ssh and scp working....right? |
| 07:52.26 | Tene | Ahh. |
| 07:52.27 | Tene | Right. |
| 07:52.32 | bonez41 | yeah, I can't connect from work to home...but home out...to work is just fine |
| 07:52.56 | Tene | dyndns.org provides a neat dynamic-update service... you just run a client on your linux box and it sends updates whenever the IP changes. |
| 07:55.12 | bonez41 | dynamic DNS? the free service? |
| 07:55.27 | bonez41 | or do I have to pay for them to keep me updated? |
| 07:55.53 | Tene | The free service. |
| 07:56.08 | nick125_lappy | well, if you need to use it with a domain, I think they charge |
| 07:56.16 | Tene | You could even set your current hostname to be a CNAME for a dynamic domain. |
| 07:56.27 | nick125_lappy | that's true.. |
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| 08:00.26 | Tene | ~lart dilvie |
| 08:00.30 | Sargun | Why doesn't brac say URL names anymore? |
| 08:00.48 | dilvie | hi |
| 08:01.03 | Sargun | hey dilvie babe. |
| 08:01.23 | dilvie | babe? |
| 08:01.29 | Sargun | yeah |
| 08:01.34 | Sargun | Dilvie bab-e |
| 08:01.39 | Sargun | Whats up? |
| 08:03.26 | dilvie | babe is usually pronounced with a long a as in lame and is generally associated with attractive females, infants, or hollywood producers |
| 08:04.13 | Sargun | Yeah. |
| 08:05.02 | dilvie | baby (two syllables) refers to infants, attractive girls, or pimps |
| 08:05.06 | dilvie | I am none of the above |
| 08:05.07 | dilvie | ;) |
| 08:05.30 | dilvie | I'm male. I've never produced a movie, and I'm not a pimp. |
| 08:05.44 | nick125_lappy | dilvie: you might be attractive to Sargun..you never know |
| 08:05.53 | dilvie | well, I am very sexy. |
| 08:06.09 | Sargun | Haha |
| 08:12.40 | bonez41 | Tene, another couple questions about dyndns? I have a specific IP address, behind my router, assigned to my linux box..so that I can forward port 22 to this IP....suggesting that I do NOT use DHCP........and thus would need to edit /etc/resolv.conf instead of /etc/dhclient.conf, correct? |
| 08:13.24 | Tene | You wouldn't need to change anything on that box... |
| 08:14.38 | bonez41 | what would I need to change then? just with Namecheap...where my domain is registered? |
| 08:15.06 | Tene | personally, I would just update my domain manually every time comcast changes it. |
| 08:15.32 | Tene | I mean, doing it manually once every two years isn't bad. |
| 08:15.47 | bonez41 | true... |
| 08:16.01 | bonez41 | I'll just update it with namecheap when this happens and not worry about it otherwise... |
| 08:16.12 | bonez41 | I have never had my IP from xmission change.... |
| 08:16.20 | bonez41 | at work |
| 08:16.29 | Tene | If you wanted to be safe, you could register a free account on dyndns and use that if your IP ever changes when you really need to get back home. |
| 08:17.16 | nick125_lappy | bonez41: are you on a static IP at xmission? |
| 08:17.32 | bonez41 | I pay $19 per month to xmission as my ISP..... |
| 08:17.40 | bonez41 | I assume it's static..... |
| 08:19.06 | bonez41 | Tene, thanks..that was easy enough, it's already propagated and allowed me to ssh back and forth, at the new IP... |
| 08:19.57 | Tene | np |
| 08:24.38 | Sargun | How do I write directly to video card in X? |
| 08:25.28 | Sargun | I mean, I know -exactly- what pixels I want to modify. |
| 08:34.35 | findlay | good luck working your one pixel jobs all the way through a proprietary driver |
| 08:35.17 | Sargun | haha |
| 08:35.24 | Sargun | yeah, thats what I was afraid of |
| 08:35.37 | findlay | although I don't know why you want to do this I can imagine it is because you like to perceive entropy |
| 08:36.20 | findlay | to remind you about how digital is certainly no panacaea |
| 08:36.54 | findlay | if you have a fully open source stack and a well documented card I bet you could do it |
| 08:37.24 | findlay | after some hours you'd be proud of your one pixel |
| 08:37.39 | Sargun | haah |
| 08:37.48 | Sargun | So, it'd depend on card |
| 08:37.54 | findlay | I don't know |
| 08:37.58 | Sargun | there is no "standard" for this fun stuff |
| 08:38.27 | findlay | there's got to be lots of protections against deliberate modification of the raw hardware in the kernel |
| 08:38.47 | Sargun | ugh |
| 08:38.59 | findlay | it's almost like being able to address a pointer to kernel space |
| 08:39.21 | findlay | so you'd need to modify the video driver, possibly the kernel itself to do that |
| 08:40.05 | findlay | why don't you just stick with a super easy OSD library or something? |
| 08:40.39 | Sargun | I'm writing a "super-secure" chat program |
| 08:40.40 | findlay | then you get your data into the video stream the 'standard' way with no video driver patches, etc. |
| 08:40.43 | Sargun | nad video player |
| 08:40.54 | Sargun | which writes video directly to screen |
| 08:40.56 | Sargun | or else. |
| 08:41.02 | Sargun | yeah |
| 08:41.44 | findlay | Sargun: you might find OGF interesting |
| 08:43.00 | findlay | open graphics foundation |
| 08:48.19 | Sargun | ah |
| 08:48.22 | Sargun | Ew. |
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| 16:32.35 | vontrapp | ibot when are you do? |
| 16:32.46 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, vontrapp |
| 16:33.31 | vontrapp | ibot pick elg's nose |
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| 17:57.38 | findlay | enlightenment is such a paradox |
| 17:58.09 | findlay | alongside the breathlessly perfect is blended an equal amount of klunk |
| 17:59.30 | herlo | it's alive!! |
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| 20:03.23 | findlay | ~karma findlay |
| 20:03.23 | ibot | findlay has karma of 2 |
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| 22:34.07 | scottj | findlay: what amazes me is how fast and responsive enlightenment normally is for as much eye candy as it had |
| 22:34.11 | scottj | s/has |
| 22:34.46 | scottj | rasterman did some benchmarks that basically showed enlightenment as being way faster at quite a few things than what are normally considered minimalist WMs |
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| 23:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm trying to convince a friend to go wardriving with me tonight |
| 23:28.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And then again on tuesday.. |
| 23:33.38 | scottj | wardriving? |
| 23:34.10 | scottj | reading the .doc |
| 23:34.12 | scottj | s/.com |
| 23:36.38 | scottj | http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/wardriving-36917.jpg |
| 23:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, awesome |
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