| 00:14.12 | elg | http://www.electronics-rewardpath.com/info.htm?tp=gift_help&promo_name=dynamicgift&gift=23040&SID=804fdf36e550ad9fdd91af883831ca84 |
| 00:14.54 | elg | clicked on an adwords ad just for kicks. free flight yoke would be worth it if it was easy. that's the fine print |
| 00:15.11 | elg | i'd be tempted to do it if they showed me what I had to sign up for before asking for my personal info |
| 00:15.40 | elg | I like number 13 |
| 00:15.40 | elg | 13. Am I being spammed? /How do I unsubscribe from receiving e-mail? |
| 00:15.41 | elg | No. Our e-mails are not SPAM. We strictly comply with the guidelines established by the CAN SPAM Act of 2003, as amended. |
| 00:16.06 | elg | ha. yeah, technically it's not unsolicited. it's still spam by the spirit of monty python though |
| 00:18.41 | levi | "Third Party Partners" seeking to "acquire new consumers". Sounds nice and friendly. |
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| 00:22.39 | elg | i wouldn't mind giving some "third party partners" a honeypot address and even my mailling address (what's a little more junk mail? more kindling) |
| 00:23.04 | elg | for a $150 piece of hardware. but not knowing who they are first kind of spoils it |
| 00:23.19 | levi | If you search for 'free X' where X is some recent consumer gadget, you're likely to turn up an offer for it from the same folks. |
| 00:33.08 | levi | From what I can tell by googling, you have to 'do offers' before you get your stuff. I'm not sure what that means. |
| 00:33.39 | elg | well reading the fine print it sounds like signing up for mailings |
| 00:33.44 | elg | or credit cards |
| 00:33.55 | elg | or free trials that will become paying customer if you don't cancel at the right moment |
| 00:33.58 | elg | things like that |
| 00:34.13 | elg | and some things that may have "low cost" |
| 00:34.18 | levi | Yeah, it does look like that. |
| 00:37.39 | levi | http://freeofferreviews.com/ looks like a good summary of free offers out there. |
| 00:37.46 | Lone_Wanderer | I did one before. Well, part of one. |
| 00:38.41 | Lone_Wanderer | They made you do a bunch of things that basically amounted to giving my demographic and contact information to every spammer on the net. |
| 00:41.22 | elg | oh my. anyone else think it's a little late to do wargames 2? |
| 00:41.59 | Lone_Wanderer | make a Wargames II movie? |
| 00:41.59 | Lone_Wanderer | Shall. We. Play. A. Game? |
| 00:42.23 | elg | yeah, mgm is making one |
| 00:43.22 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 00:43.32 | Lone_Wanderer | I should go rent the first one again. |
| 00:43.33 | maquis_ | elg: ah... but it's a perfect way to convince all the people in the world that we need to be harsher toward all these crackers, because look at how much damage they could cause! |
| 00:44.33 | maquis_ | the people will then do whatever can protect against the nasty hackers... |
| 00:44.44 | maquis_ | and will approve some of the *really* stupid laws that get proposed |
| 00:45.50 | maquis_ | i read someplace that some country had a law proposed that would make utilities like nmap illegal... |
| 00:46.10 | Lone_Wanderer | was it an inadvertant side effect of the law, or were they specifically targeting it? |
| 00:46.59 | maquis_ | Lone_Wanderer: i believe the wording was along the lines of tools that can, in some way, be used in an attempt at breaking into the computer or network |
| 00:47.26 | elg | Lone_Wanderer: not cool, because it can be nothing like the first one |
| 00:47.34 | elg | anything like the first one would be a total joke and laughed off stage |
| 00:47.37 | maquis_ | if you outlaw <guns, security tools, etc> only outlaws will have <guns, security tools, etc> |
| 00:47.40 | elg | (screen, whatever) |
| 00:47.40 | Lone_Wanderer | That'd be like outlawing hammers and screwdrivers because you can use them to break into people's houses. |
| 00:47.55 | elg | anything modern would be so unlike the first one as to be a complete insult |
| 00:47.59 | maquis_ | Lone_Wanderer: yup |
| 00:48.11 | elg | unless you used broderick and had some story continuity and modern technology |
| 00:48.20 | maquis_ | Lone_Wanderer: but people don't understand that |
| 00:48.24 | elg | otherwise, just make a movie about hackers and don't call it wargames 2 |
| 00:48.37 | elg | call it crackers |
| 00:48.40 | elg | or ritz |
| 00:48.42 | elg | or something .:) |
| 00:48.43 | Lone_Wanderer | good plan |
| 00:49.03 | maquis_ | out of curiosity, did anybody see "firewall" and if so, was it any good? |
| 00:49.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay this really makes no sense. |
| 00:54.19 | elg | i saw it |
| 00:54.22 | elg | it was pretty good |
| 00:54.30 | elg | it had not very much to do with firewalls |
| 00:54.55 | elg | and very little tech stuff to get wrong, though they did manage to get some wrong |
| 00:55.02 | elg | there was a unix screenshot |
| 00:59.10 | maquis_ | yeah? |
| 01:03.24 | Lone_Wanderer | I hate it when I see stuff happening that shouldn't be possible given the code I'm looking at. |
| 01:05.51 | elg | maquis_: yah. might have been a router or something, don't remember any more than it was a unixy command prompt |
| 01:05.54 | elg | and he typed stuff |
| 01:06.18 | maquis_ | probably typed something like "let me in" |
| 01:06.45 | Lone_Wanderer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Ohhh, I just spotted a race condition in my code. |
| 01:14.36 | elg | hurry, don't let it get away |
| 01:19.03 | emcnabb | cool, Soren Harward just emailed me (out of the blue) |
| 01:34.34 | elg | did he call you a punk? |
| 01:34.58 | elg | because if I emailed you out of the blue I probably would |
| 01:35.01 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 01:35.09 | elg | what's he up to? |
| 01:42.00 | findlay | I hate science movies that get science wrong. It always bugs me |
| 01:42.37 | findlay | like in Ocean's 12 somehow enclosing a computer in titanium makes it more secure |
| 01:42.58 | Supaplex | from bullets? |
| 01:43.08 | findlay | why you want to shoot it? |
| 01:43.17 | findlay | would |
| 01:43.20 | Supaplex | disarm security? |
| 01:43.27 | Supaplex | because you can? :p |
| 01:43.39 | findlay | the whole scene was just disappointing |
| 01:47.05 | emcnabb | elg: why would anyone call me a punk? |
| 01:47.32 | emcnabb | he's doing well, getting his PHD in Bio-Chemistry out east |
| 02:03.56 | elg | silly biologists |
| 02:04.38 | elg | emcnabb: you don't have a pink mohawk anymore? |
| 02:20.37 | Supaplex | nope, he's got the pink pants now |
| 02:25.04 | emcnabb | nope, decided to go with Red |
| 02:25.15 | emcnabb | a little more conservative |
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| 03:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Who here has used MySQL foreign keys before? |
| 03:40.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm having a tad bit of trouble getting it all to work correctly together |
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| 04:41.13 | calvarez | I like python |
| 04:41.35 | calvarez | it's sooo much better than PHP, perl, ruby, lisp et al. |
| 04:41.42 | calvarez | in a very objective sense |
| 04:46.39 | findlay | whatever |
| 04:46.46 | findlay | python is way too objecty for me |
| 04:47.02 | findlay | whether it has sense or not |
| 04:51.45 | atoponce | better than c/c++/c#? |
| 05:12.18 | findlay | of course anything is better than a/bcpl/b/c/c++/c#/c+#/c+++#+/C###$#3=+ |
| 05:12.29 | findlay | d |
| 05:16.04 | maquis_ | i've been really liking perl thus far |
| 05:16.13 | findlay | me too |
| 05:16.19 | atoponce | findlay: but not objective-c 2.0! |
| 05:16.28 | findlay | yeah, that one too |
| 05:16.36 | maquis_ | granted, i have a strange feeling that the reason i like perl is probably a bad one |
| 05:16.48 | maquis_ | i really actually like it's completely brute-hack-ish nature |
| 05:17.21 | atoponce | maquis_: i've been enjoying perl thus far. it's not too difficult to grasp, and i can get up and running with a script in no time |
| 05:20.38 | findlay | one difference I apprecieate between perl and c++ is that perl lets me do things newbily and they are almost always safe and as I progress with the language I gain competence and skill, whereas with c++ only a seasoned programmer can write good, safe code |
| 05:21.18 | atoponce | agreed. perl is *very* forgiving |
| 05:22.35 | findlay | more than forgiving, I'd say it has set up an environment where it's hard to really screw things up |
| 05:23.44 | findlay | python too in a way |
| 05:24.19 | atoponce | yes and no with python. not forgiving at all with the whitespace dependence and underscores |
| 05:24.40 | atoponce | *but*, object-orientation is always a good thing |
| 05:24.57 | findlay | always? |
| 05:25.13 | atoponce | i think so. can you think of when it's not? |
| 05:25.59 | findlay | I don't have much of an opinion |
| 05:27.05 | atoponce | ahh. well, when a class is built (or module), it's nice to not have to reinvent the wheel, but to use/reuse as seen fit |
| 05:27.18 | atoponce | can save a lot of coding |
| 05:29.14 | atoponce | so i guess there won't be a findlay party at the jacksons this year |
| 05:29.16 | atoponce | :( |
| 05:29.26 | findlay | yeah |
| 05:31.05 | atoponce | so, for your calc, i would recommend you get an sd card for flashing the rom |
| 05:31.18 | atoponce | either that, or use windows |
| 05:31.30 | findlay | ugh |
| 05:55.03 | findlay | I just wish I waited for the 50g |
| 06:05.35 | nick125_lappy | I wish there was something like python except with braces |
| 06:29.45 | findlay | nick125_lappy: might not be that hard to do |
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| 08:15.51 | Sargun | who here has a netflix account? |
| 08:33.50 | levi_home | findlay: Pretty much all of Ocean's 12 was disappointing. |
| 08:38.09 | Sargun | eah |
| 08:38.10 | Sargun | yeah |
| 08:39.37 | Sargun | The scene of the two observers arguing, the "Sexy female assistant," the switch, and the run in |
| 08:39.42 | Sargun | The ideas were good |
| 08:39.47 | Sargun | just not implemented well |
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| 14:10.04 | bonez41 | greetings, jsmith |
| 14:10.18 | jsmith | Howdy bonez41! |
| 14:10.50 | bonez41 | jsmith, ever work with Elliott at ArrivalTel, or participate with the utaug.org group? |
| 14:11.13 | jsmith | Helped start UTAUG, and have worked a lot with Eliott. |
| 14:11.21 | bonez41 | I ask as I have been wanting to come to the monthly meeting , but the web hasn't been the most up to date....but perhaps it is updated now |
| 14:11.21 | jsmith | In fact, I talk to him almost daily in #utaug |
| 14:11.32 | jsmith | Yeah... the website had some problems. |
| 14:11.35 | jsmith | I think it's back up now |
| 14:11.38 | bonez41 | I guess I just need to hang out there more....and get more involved |
| 14:11.43 | jsmith | Yup :-) |
| 14:12.35 | bonez41 | I have Vonage at home and work..but I'd gladly switch to something else....with asterisk behind it...if I could understand how it all works....... |
| 14:13.03 | jsmith | Well, that's what UTAUG is all about. |
| 14:13.20 | jsmith | And having used Eliott's service for a long time, he does a good job. |
| 14:13.27 | bonez41 | ok, when and where...the January meeting? |
| 14:13.47 | bonez41 | Eliott seems like he knows his stuff......! |
| 14:15.42 | goozbach | woo hoo! woo hoo hoo! |
| 14:16.41 | bonez41 | goozbach, what's gotcha so excited? |
| 14:16.57 | herlo | yeah goo, spill the beans |
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| 14:20.09 | bonez41 | morning, elg |
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| 14:27.36 | redbeard1 | goozbach! speak! |
| 14:27.49 | redbeard1 | we all want to know what has you so excited! |
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| 14:31.04 | goozbach | i was singing the vonage commercial song |
| 14:31.58 | goozbach | "lets pretend we don't exist" |
| 14:32.14 | goozbach | "lets pretend we're in Antartica!" |
| 14:32.46 | jsmith | goozbach: I'm still amazed that more people are still paying a monthly fee to rent a Bell phone than have signed up for Vonage :-) |
| 14:33.04 | goozbach | jsmith: really? |
| 14:33.06 | goozbach | wow |
| 14:35.54 | jsmith | Yup... there's something to be said about spending hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising... but then again, I'm probably biased |
| 14:37.54 | elg | so my dvd player just decided it's done working for the man |
| 14:37.58 | redbeard1 | there's a spike in my stats this morning, this site ( http://www.ebham.blogfa.com/post-207.aspx ) is in my top 10 referers list, and something by my desk is beeping |
| 14:38.24 | elg | should I bother with a lens cleaner thing, or just take it apart like a man? |
| 14:39.02 | elg | do those cd/dvd lens cleaners work? |
| 14:39.07 | redbeard1 | elg: do a lens cleaner first, if you have one |
| 14:39.16 | redbeard1 | if it doesn't work, take it apart |
| 14:40.14 | elg | if that doesn't work, call the iranians |
| 14:40.48 | redbeard1 | the iranians! they've found me! i don't know how, but they've found me! |
| 14:41.22 | redbeard1 | ah yes, the libyans. |
| 14:46.00 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
| 14:52.11 | elg | redbeard1: the question is, do I buy a lens cleaner? |
| 14:52.31 | redbeard1 | elg: don't buy a lens cleaner unless you have to. |
| 14:52.47 | redbeard1 | if you already have one, use it. if not, void the warranty. |
| 14:53.32 | emcnabb | -lart meetings |
| 14:55.37 | elg | warranty? |
| 14:55.48 | elg | did the iranians give you a warranty? |
| 14:56.22 | redbeard1 | not after they figured out i didn't give them cookies, but rather, i gave them a bunch of used pinball machine parts |
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| 15:03.03 | redbeard1 | ~lart vontrapp |
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| 15:05.29 | ^Migs^ | http://www.elks590.org/main/cooltest.htm |
| 15:06.44 | elg | that's hilarious. i haven't laughed that hard since junior high. |
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| 15:13.50 | emcnabb | ~dork elg |
| 15:14.03 | redbeard1 | ~whalebomb emcnabb |
| 15:14.05 | ibot | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at emcnabb and hides. |
| 15:14.08 | goozbach | ~blam emcnabb |
| 15:14.09 | ibot | ACTION blams findlay and $sjansen in the head with a blam-o-tron. |
| 15:14.16 | goozbach | I need to fix that |
| 15:14.39 | goozbach | ~bliam |
| 15:14.43 | goozbach | ~blam |
| 15:15.57 | emcnabb | ~seen sjansen |
| 15:16.17 | ibot | sjansen <n=sjansen@86.43.76.98> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 47d 17h 6m 29s ago, saying: '^Migs^: duh!'. |
| 15:17.02 | redbeard1 | wow. it's been a while. |
| 15:17.16 | goozbach | I keep telling him to join |
| 15:17.29 | goozbach | methinks it's time to send in the squirrel brigade |
| 15:17.32 | goozbach | AGAIN |
| 15:17.32 | redbeard1 | he doesn't like us anymore |
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| 15:20.17 | emcnabb | goozbach: me too, he just is too cool for us |
| 15:20.21 | atoponce | what's with the h's? |
| 15:20.41 | Hhhhhh | Hhhhhhuh? |
| 15:21.07 | goozbach | gatech huh? |
| 15:21.09 | goozbach | :) |
| 15:21.10 | atoponce | hungry hungry hippos? |
| 15:21.21 | goozbach | isn't that where calvarez is? |
| 15:21.27 | goozbach | ~gatech |
| 15:21.29 | ibot | hmm... gatech is where calvarez is? |
| 15:21.35 | goozbach | heh |
| 15:21.40 | redbeard1 | goozbach: you win |
| 15:22.26 | redbeard1 | this place is getting confusing |
| 15:22.52 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
| 15:22.53 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 15:22.54 | goozboch | Hhhhhhuh? |
| 15:23.42 | redbeard2 | confuse this |
| 15:23.43 | redbeard1 | uh oh. |
| 15:23.51 | redbeard1 | my evil twin really is evil now. |
| 15:24.34 | emcnabb | >_> |
| 15:24.36 | redbeard2 | ahahahahub |
| 15:24.59 | redbeard2 | the new BNL cd is AWESOME! |
| 15:25.07 | emcnabb | back to work |
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| 15:26.04 | atoponce | that got a bit confusing |
| 15:26.10 | dataw0lf | yea, no kidding |
| 15:26.30 | atoponce | my question still wasn't answered though |
| 15:26.36 | dataw0lf | what's the question? |
| 15:26.43 | atoponce | what's with the h's? |
| 15:26.52 | ^Migs^ | wtf, my webinar was cancelled |
| 15:27.19 | dataw0lf | that's his nick |
| 15:27.31 | emcnabb | crap, I hate it when my webinars are canceled! |
| 15:27.37 | atoponce | well, i know that. but why so many? |
| 15:27.55 | dataw0lf | I dunno. |
| 15:28.02 | ^Migs^ | I'm kind of pissed now |
| 15:28.03 | redbeard1 | dude, you can't _just_ have one h |
| 15:28.05 | atoponce | i mean, it's nothing you can pronounce "hhhhh" |
| 15:28.12 | dataw0lf | sure you can |
| 15:28.16 | ^Migs^ | http://dev2dev.bea.com/pub/e/1022 |
| 15:28.18 | h | hah! |
| 15:28.40 | dataw0lf | 'h' is harder to pronounce than 'hhhhh' |
| 15:28.54 | atoponce | hhhhhow's that? |
| 15:29.05 | dataw0lf | I mean when taken alone. |
| 15:29.12 | dataw0lf | 'hhhhh' is like a sigh. |
| 15:29.20 | dataw0lf | I'm guessin |
| 15:29.50 | atoponce | hmmmm |
| 15:31.00 | ^Migs^ | how do you pronounce "kkkkk"? |
| 15:31.46 | atoponce | that's not as difficult as '^Migs^' |
| 15:32.01 | atoponce | what sound does ^ make? |
| 15:32.14 | ^Migs^ | I don't think humans can properly pronounce it |
| 15:32.36 | atoponce | can software? |
| 15:33.52 | dataw0lf | it's pronounced 'carat' I thought |
| 15:35.12 | ^Migs^ | no, that's what it is |
| 15:35.18 | ^Migs^ | but how do you PRONOUNCE it? |
| 15:35.22 | emcnabb | dataw0lf: I think those are supposed to be wings. So it would be "Left-wing MIGS!!! Right-wing" |
| 15:35.35 | ^Migs^ | I'm like the Angel of Christmas |
| 15:35.50 | atoponce | there goes the holiday |
| 15:35.51 | ^Migs^ | or a little UFO hovering around the channel |
| 15:35.52 | emcnabb | from hell |
| 15:36.12 | dataw0lf | the Demon of Christmas? |
| 15:36.21 | ^Migs^ | I guess if it was a hovering UFO, it wouldn't need wings. |
| 15:36.28 | emcnabb | Santa's little evil elf |
| 15:36.49 | dataw0lf | kinda annoying, with a bad attitude? that's about right |
| 15:36.54 | dataw0lf | course, I could be describing myself. |
| 15:37.15 | ^Migs^ | I don't think there's really any point in getting annoyed by anyone on IRC |
| 15:37.35 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.42 | goozbach | oh, oops |
| 15:37.45 | goozbach | :) |
| 15:38.02 | atoponce | lol |
| 15:38.05 | dataw0lf | har. new PA is hilarious. |
| 15:38.33 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: speaking of annoying, how is your fat little neighbor |
| 15:38.34 | emcnabb | ? |
| 15:38.45 | ^Migs^ | that family is WEIRD |
| 15:38.58 | dataw0lf | ooh, I want to hear about fat little people. |
| 15:39.04 | ^Migs^ | I'm more worried about the son now. Every day when he comes home from school, he kicks the head off their neighbor's little plastic reindeer in the yard |
| 15:39.31 | dataw0lf | dude |
| 15:39.40 | dataw0lf | you need to take a wooden spoon to some britches |
| 15:39.47 | ^Migs^ | my wife yelled at him because of it, but of course he just said something rude back to her, which I can't repeat. We're worried he's going to try to destroy some of our property in retaliation. |
| 15:40.03 | ^Migs^ | so we're making sure all the doors are locked, alarms are on at night |
| 15:40.34 | ^Migs^ | kids don't learn that sort of behavior by themselves. There's something very wrong with the parents. |
| 15:40.48 | ^Migs^ | his mom claims that he was a perfect angel before they moved here |
| 15:40.52 | dataw0lf | I stole a garden gnome once as a kid |
| 15:40.55 | dataw0lf | well |
| 15:40.58 | ^Migs^ | as if it's somehow everyone else's fault |
| 15:41.02 | dataw0lf | I stole a garden gnome a couple years ago in SLC too |
| 15:41.26 | ^Migs^ | sounds like you need some wooden spoon treatment, too |
| 15:41.26 | goozbach | we "borrowed" a gnome a while back |
| 15:41.38 | goozbach | took him places and took pictures with him in it |
| 15:41.42 | ^Migs^ | that wouldn't be so bad. This kid is actually destructive |
| 15:41.48 | ^Migs^ | I don't want him near my kids. He might hurt them. |
| 15:42.02 | goozbach | then we put him back on the front porch, along with a scrapbook of his "adventure" |
| 15:42.05 | ^Migs^ | they're always breaking our stuff anyway. They play with our toys without asking. |
| 15:42.16 | goozbach | it was great fun |
| 15:42.24 | ^Migs^ | I already mentioned little fatty broke my kid's bike. Apparently they've broken the other kids' bikes and other toys, too |
| 15:42.41 | dataw0lf | give your kid some mace and let nature take it's course. |
| 15:42.59 | ^Migs^ | I don't think that constitutes "letting nature take its course" |
| 15:43.48 | dataw0lf | sure it does, natural selection. to wit: whoever has the most powerful weapon, wins. |
| 15:43.51 | dataw0lf | or something like that. |
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| 15:44.06 | ^Migs^ | yes, but I'm artificially introducing weapons into this ecosystem |
| 15:44.12 | ^Migs^ | that's not true natural selection |
| 15:44.23 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: teach your kids how to make weapons |
| 15:44.28 | emcnabb | or just use a rock |
| 15:44.30 | emcnabb | that's natuarl |
| 15:44.33 | emcnabb | natural |
| 15:44.49 | ^Migs^ | it would be like giving one colony of two warring ant colonies little tiny laser beams attached to their foreheads |
| 15:44.54 | dataw0lf | well, if 'twas truly natural, that kid wouldn't be a fatty, now would he? |
| 15:45.07 | dataw0lf | ^Migs^: which is, you see, an idea that comes to me naturally. |
| 15:45.08 | ^Migs^ | clearly the laser shooting ants would have the advantage |
| 15:45.13 | ^Migs^ | she |
| 15:45.26 | dataw0lf | egad, a she, too? |
| 15:45.29 | ^Migs^ | he's a scrawny kid. Fortunately he just got a haircut, so he no longer looks like "Li'l Emo" |
| 15:45.42 | ^Migs^ | there's a boy and girl. He's about 10, she's about 8 |
| 15:46.12 | dataw0lf | http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-baby20dec20,0,4869996.story?ic |
| 15:46.15 | dataw0lf | dang |
| 15:47.50 | ^Migs^ | On its website, the TSA posts extensive tips for travelers, including a section titled "Traveling With Children." |
| 15:47.53 | ^Migs^ | One item reads: "Never leave babies in an infant carrier while it goes through the X-ray machine." |
| 15:47.55 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 15:48.43 | ^Migs^ | "We're trying to figure out what changes we can make, short of putting up signs saying, 'Don't put your baby through the X-ray machine,' " Melendez said. "We're trying to determine how we can make this not happen again." |
| 15:50.25 | dataw0lf | that's nothing. |
| 15:50.28 | dataw0lf | http://www29.compaq.com/falco/detail.asp?FAQnum=FAQ2859& |
| 15:51.13 | ^Migs^ | It was probably because she didn't speak English. I always assume people who don't speak English are retarded. |
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| 16:04.05 | Hhhhh | ^Migs^, funny, I always assume people who think people who don't speak English are retards are retards |
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| 16:05.44 | calvarez | ^Migs^, I do too |
| 16:05.50 | calvarez | I guess we win 2 vs 1 |
| 16:07.29 | ^Migs^ | that sux |
| 16:08.02 | ^Migs^ | fortunately, I have tens of thousands of bigoted ignorant Americans on my side |
| 16:09.08 | dataw0lf | you could be president |
| 16:09.37 | maquis_ | if you can speak 3 languages, you're trilingual... if you can speak 2 languages, you're bilingual. if you can speak 1 language, you're american |
| 16:10.25 | dataw0lf | or french |
| 16:13.48 | elg | http://blog.airbladesoftware.com/2006/12/20/acts-as-enterprisey |
| 16:13.48 | maquis_ | true |
| 16:14.20 | ^Migs^ | "Enterprisey Apps Invite, Nay Demand, Enterprisey Rates. Verily, Sunshine." |
| 16:14.25 | ^Migs^ | haha |
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| 16:26.49 | ^Migs^ | Is this a new Transformers trailer? http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/5029_paramount/en/web/ |
| 16:27.52 | levi | Good morning. |
| 16:28.02 | mrpull | levi: 'mornin' |
| 16:28.03 | maquis_ | levi: i'll agree with the second half of that |
| 16:28.19 | levi | maquis_: I can't help it if you don't appreciate the goodness of it. |
| 16:28.31 | maquis_ | meh |
| 16:32.03 | dataw0lf | omg ^Migs^ |
| 16:32.08 | dataw0lf | haven't seen that one yet |
| 16:32.28 | ^Migs^ | yeah, it's freakin SWEET |
| 16:32.35 | dataw0lf | omg it shows Blackout |
| 16:34.06 | dataw0lf | dude Optimus Prime versus Megatron on the big screen, live action. I really can't say I've ever been so excited about a movie in my life. |
| 16:34.44 | dataw0lf | I truly hope they have Starscream |
| 16:36.50 | levi | Clearly a movie made for geeky adults who loved Transformers as kids. :) |
| 16:37.07 | dataw0lf | who didn't love Transformers? |
| 16:37.13 | levi | I sure did. |
| 16:37.27 | levi | I fear that this one won't have Weird Al on the soundtrack, though. |
| 16:37.51 | ^Migs^ | Transformers is still around, you know. |
| 16:38.00 | ^Migs^ | So there's something for geeky adults as well as today's generation of children |
| 16:38.42 | levi | ^Migs^: It doesn't look like a movie aimed at children, though. At least not of the age I was when I played with Transformers. |
| 16:38.49 | dataw0lf | I wonder if they'll show Cybertron. |
| 16:39.09 | ^Migs^ | no, it's probably not |
| 16:39.12 | ^Migs^ | older children, maybe |
| 16:39.28 | levi | Yeah. |
| 16:40.53 | levi | Maybe I missed this when I followed Transformers as a kid, but why do a bunch of robots from another world look like OUR vehicles here? |
| 16:41.42 | ^Migs^ | because our vehicle designs are galactically sensible |
| 16:41.51 | elg | especially the vw beetle |
| 16:41.55 | levi | Trying to make it gritty and realistic seems kind of absurd considering that. |
| 16:42.25 | levi | elg: Except Bumblebee is now apparently a yellow chevy of some sort. |
| 16:42.38 | elg | man that's the worst kind of insult |
| 16:42.53 | elg | replace it with a mini cooper or something if you must |
| 16:42.55 | elg | but not a chevy |
| 16:42.59 | levi | A Camaro, apparently. |
| 16:43.01 | ^Migs^ | I'm more than willing to stifle realism for this movie |
| 16:43.11 | elg | almost as bad as a chevy |
| 16:43.18 | elg | and just as un vw like |
| 16:43.19 | levi | A Camaro is a chevy. |
| 16:43.26 | elg | is it? |
| 16:43.30 | elg | well there ou go :) |
| 16:44.01 | dataw0lf | dude, they are robots that transform to vehicles in an instant. I think we can safely say we're suspending our sense of reality for a bit. |
| 16:45.46 | ^Migs^ | maybe they can choose what they transform to |
| 16:47.13 | levi | Well, the most plausible thing I can think of is that they were put in their current forms on their homeworld (Cybertron?) right before they came based on gathered intelligence so they'd fit in. |
| 16:48.41 | levi | I guess Volkswagen wouldn't let them use a Beetle. |
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| 16:55.04 | ^Migs^ | I like that explanation, levi |
| 16:56.14 | ^Migs^ | although I'm not sure the Decepticons would care about "fitting in" |
| 16:56.47 | levi | Well, they're DECEPTicons. They think it's fun to deceive us! |
| 16:56.57 | ^Migs^ | oh right |
| 16:56.58 | ^Migs^ | silly me |
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| 17:09.21 | levi | Ew: http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/world/newsid_1805000/1805342.stm |
| 17:10.51 | ^Migs^ | why are you posting pics of emcnabb? |
| 17:11.59 | maquis_ | ~lart ^Migs^ |
| 17:15.50 | mrpull | i cant believe how slow Sun's web site is! |
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| 17:33.51 | ^Migs^ | this is adorable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGe3X6lAgHQ |
| 17:39.17 | findlay | I'm number 1 today: http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/utah.html.gz |
| 17:39.21 | mrpull | does Dell sell any Itaniums? |
| 17:40.06 | dataw0lf | findlay: I think that's yesterday. |
| 17:40.48 | levi | mrpull: They used to. |
| 17:41.03 | levi | mrpull: But I don't believe they do anymore. |
| 17:41.32 | elg | haha. they got that kid to look a lot like jon |
| 17:41.52 | ^Migs^ | yeah, they did |
| 17:42.10 | levi | The PowerEdge 3250 and 7250 were released in 2004 and discontinued in 2005. |
| 17:44.50 | ^Migs^ | I'm number 3 |
| 17:44.54 | ^Migs^ | that's pretty cool |
| 17:45.24 | dataw0lf | oh, I get it. You must live in the Geek dimension. |
| 17:45.40 | dataw0lf | cuz in this one spending an inordinate amount of time on IRC is about as far from cool as you get. |
| 17:46.09 | ^Migs^ | I don't really have a lot going for me, so I grasp onto whatever I can |
| 17:46.30 | dataw0lf | The prosecution rests. |
| 17:46.34 | dataw0lf | ;-) |
| 17:46.49 | mrpull | I'm not sure why Itanium is required for this project... the other specs just don't add up to Itanium |
| 17:46.54 | ^Migs^ | I was being prosecuted? |
| 17:47.05 | mrpull | Windows 2K3 + 1 GB ram... why waste money on Itanium? |
| 17:48.16 | dataw0lf | Yes, under Bylaw 32, Section 4, of the Uniform Code of IRC Justice, to wit: "Ye shall not declare thyself cool if you're present on IRC and your nick contains a non alphabetical character." |
| 17:51.22 | ^Migs^ | I never said anything about me being cool |
| 17:51.42 | ^Migs^ | you're reading entirely too much into what I said |
| 17:53.30 | dataw0lf | well, due to the fact that you're ranked 3 on the log parser, for lines produced during a single day, and labelled that 'cool', I made the assumption that thereby, you thought you yourself were 'cool', and filed the paperwork for your prompt prosecution under UCIJ. |
| 17:53.47 | ^Migs^ | oh, certainly not. I wouldn't do that. |
| 17:53.49 | dataw0lf | of course, it's out of my hands, you'll have to take it up with the UCIJ investigators. |
| 17:54.26 | dataw0lf | ooh, ILM is hiring a Python programmer. |
| 17:55.11 | levi | Hah, I'm the loudest. |
| 17:55.32 | dataw0lf | didn't need a parser to figure that one out... |
| 17:55.35 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 17:55.37 | dataw0lf | <_< |
| 17:56.07 | levi | findlay uses 'think' too much. |
| 17:56.26 | dataw0lf | I like how 18.7% of atoponce's statements contain either a smiley face or a frown |
| 17:56.46 | levi | "Nobody is foul-mouthed in #Utah! Get out much?" |
| 17:57.09 | findlay | I think I do, that is, thinking about it confirms it |
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| 18:11.15 | findlay | nick125_lappy: do you know of any utility that will autogenerate an ebuild? All you really need to know at first is the package source and ebuild category |
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| 18:14.29 | nick125_lappy | findlay: not off hand |
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| 19:00.53 | levi | Cool, Erlang is getting bitstream comprehensions. |
| 19:01.24 | levi | Makes uuencoding/decoding a one-liner. |
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| 19:04.32 | findlay | what's bitstream? |
| 19:05.11 | dataw0lf | import uu; uu.encode(i, o) |
| 19:06.01 | levi | dataw0lf: Yes, that's beside the point. The question is, how easily and efficiently can you implement a new algorithm that requires bit-level manipulation? |
| 19:06.54 | dataw0lf | findlay: it's pattern matching on binaries |
| 19:07.06 | dataw0lf | levi: I dunno, but we don't have a coolio Binary type like Erlang. |
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| 19:07.23 | levi | Not many languages do. |
| 19:07.38 | dataw0lf | oh, nevermind, we do. |
| 19:08.14 | dataw0lf | still not as cool as Erlang though. |
| 19:08.32 | levi | Can you treat binary data as a list of bits? If you could, you could probably use list comprehensions. |
| 19:09.42 | dataw0lf | I'm sure you could. |
| 19:09.59 | dataw0lf | that'd be pretty sweet. a list comprehension on binary data. |
| 19:10.43 | levi | That's essentially what Erlang does in this new feature, and it does it fairly efficiently. |
| 19:11.42 | dataw0lf | it's been a while since I played with Erlang, perhaps I should do so again. |
| 19:13.02 | levi | I haven't come up with a project that would really benefit from it yet, so I haven't done anything beyond reading through tutorials and such. |
| 19:13.27 | dataw0lf | yea, I've never used it for any sort of real world usage |
| 19:13.51 | dataw0lf | It always came across as a Python without OOP that leaned a lot more toward Lisp. |
| 19:13.54 | dataw0lf | which is cool. |
| 19:14.12 | levi | Except you can't mutate variables. :) |
| 19:14.21 | levi | Even Lisp lets you mutate variables. |
| 19:14.48 | levi | And the whole pervasive concurrency thing is pretty different. |
| 19:15.35 | dataw0lf | yea, you construct everything around really lightweight 'processes', right? |
| 19:16.56 | levi | Yup. |
| 19:26.33 | findlay | File::Find has the most peculiar dialect |
| 19:27.28 | ^Migs^ | lol @ one of the comments regarding the new Transformers trailer: "My seven year old will get his first nut when he sees this." http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=1709 |
| 19:30.23 | ^Migs^ | "When I was a kid I was given a Transformer for Christmas by an uncle. My Transformer was called Brick. He was brick shaped and coloured and weighed as much as a brick and he could change from Vertical Brick to Horizontal Brick just by tipping him over. I hope Brick's in the movie although I didn't notice him in the trailer. Can't remember ever seeing him in the cartoon either." |
| 19:31.09 | goozbach | heh |
| 19:31.51 | goozbach | he (brick) must have gone to the same place that matchbox went. |
| 19:32.01 | goozbach | he was a smaller t-bird. |
| 19:32.12 | goozbach | he just never wanted to change into a robot |
| 19:32.18 | goozbach | he liked being car form |
| 19:32.24 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 19:33.08 | ^Migs^ | I always used to pit my Go-Bots against my Transformers. The Go-Bots were like the Zerg, they swarmed the larger Transformers, and even used their ships against them. |
| 19:33.39 | ^Migs^ | I don't remember having any Transformer vehicles. That would probably defeat the purpose of the Transformers, anyway. |
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| 20:03.36 | goozbach | I had optimus prime |
| 20:03.40 | goozbach | he rocked |
| 20:03.43 | goozbach | first gen even |
| 20:03.56 | goozbach | chokeable wheels and everything |
| 20:09.58 | findlay | that's nothing |
| 20:10.14 | findlay | when I was a kid my brothers and I had every heman action figure |
| 20:10.22 | findlay | and then some |
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| 20:11.05 | findlay | including a heman castle and some wierd aircraft thing |
| 20:11.47 | ^Migs^ | oh man, I had every he-man thing too |
| 20:12.06 | ^Migs^ | DIDN'T have the aircraft, but I think I had all the characters, including those other four that were introduced later |
| 20:12.19 | ^Migs^ | there was a hairy guy, some lobster man... |
| 20:12.22 | ^Migs^ | can't remember them all |
| 20:12.36 | ^Migs^ | they weren't officially part of skeletor's crew, iirc |
| 20:12.42 | ^Migs^ | time to look it up on wikipedia |
| 20:12.59 | findlay | heh |
| 20:14.52 | ^Migs^ | had both Castle Greyskull and Snake Mountain. Snake Mountain was cool because it had this little microphone thing that echoed your voice |
| 20:16.09 | findlay | we didn't have the snake mountain thing I think |
| 20:16.44 | findlay | and then me and my friend and his brothers had a good amount of the GI Joe toys |
| 20:17.07 | findlay | including an F-14 and an SR-71-like thing |
| 20:19.25 | ^Migs^ | http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Canada/2006/12/20/2895818.html |
| 20:19.29 | ^Migs^ | Women born in 2004 are expected to live about 4.8 years longer than their male counterparts, according to Stats Canada report. |
| 20:19.35 | ^Migs^ | 2004? i wouldn't exactly call them "women" just yet... |
| 20:23.41 | findlay | boy I'm stupid |
| 20:24.48 | ^Migs^ | findlay: I know there's a wikipedia article because I've seen it before |
| 20:25.03 | elg | findlay: (to the side) he wrote it |
| 20:25.05 | ^Migs^ | and yes, it's quite detailed |
| 20:25.05 | findlay | but I was *sure* |
| 20:25.09 | findlay | hehe |
| 20:25.21 | findlay | elg: ah |
| 20:25.36 | elg | ^Migs^: only 4.8? is the gap going down? |
| 20:26.35 | ^Migs^ | probably |
| 20:26.44 | ^Migs^ | evolution is realizing men are more awesome and therefore need to live longer |
| 20:37.15 | findlay | ~evolve ^Migs^ |
| 20:38.11 | levi | Mmmm, Ramen noodles. |
| 20:41.13 | goozbach | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6191197.stm |
| 20:41.20 | goozbach | bombard migs with radiation |
| 20:41.25 | goozbach | that'll make him evolve |
| 20:41.31 | goozbach | according to that article |
| 20:48.34 | dataw0lf | or kill him. |
| 20:49.11 | dataw0lf | oops |
| 20:49.26 | findlay | ~oops |
| 20:49.28 | ibot | rumour has it, oops is "aw damn, i messesd up and deleted <entry>" |
| 20:49.51 | findlay | ibot_: you made us lose our clean language status |
| 20:51.25 | maquis_ | ~no, opps is "aw darn, i messed up and deleted <entry>" |
| 20:51.38 | maquis_ | ~no, oops is "aw darn, i messed up and deleted <entry>" |
| 20:54.06 | dataw0lf | no, no, this is evolution: http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061218/full/061218-7.html |
| 20:56.35 | findlay | ~oops maquis_ |
| 20:56.37 | ibot | oh bother, I messed up and deleted maquis_ |
| 21:01.23 | ^Migs^ | that sounds like a load of bunk |
| 21:07.16 | elg | why? |
| 21:14.29 | ^Migs^ | pretty soon, we won't need women |
| 21:14.37 | ^Migs^ | I guess the only solution, according to the article, is to increase breeding activities |
| 21:14.39 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 21:14.45 | ^Migs^ | *pretty soon, women won't need men |
| 21:14.53 | ^Migs^ | wow, I butchered that statement |
| 21:15.16 | elg | well they gave birth only to males |
| 21:15.30 | elg | can't find a mate? I'll make me own! |
| 21:16.03 | elg | if the new males didn't mate with the old females, then they'd just keep making more males |
| 21:16.10 | elg | until the females died |
| 21:16.22 | elg | and then the males would be pretty much at the end of their rope |
| 21:18.21 | levi | elg: Well, there were the flies that were all female and had female offspring. |
| 21:22.14 | elg | yes, that's true |
| 21:22.17 | elg | but those were flies |
| 21:22.57 | elg | i mean, if we can start taking cues from any animals, why not the all male dinosaurs in jurassic park? |
| 21:27.57 | levi | Well, it does raise the question of whether the all-maleness of the lizard kids was a necessary feature of animal parthenogenesis or whether it was just a quirk of the lizard biology. |
| 21:29.07 | levi | If the latter, and the DNA coding of the 'feature' was deciphered, it is conceivable that human DNA could be hacked to add the 'feature' as well. |
| 21:29.38 | elg | i think the only group that would be interested in that would be NOW |
| 21:29.55 | elg | actually I take that back. I can think of another |
| 21:29.59 | levi | Of course, with that sort of technology, it is also conceivable that men could be given wombs and parthenogenesis. |
| 21:33.01 | levi | But it would be much cooler if you could make the children spring fully-formed from your forehead. |
| 21:33.13 | levi | Then the name would be quite apt! |
| 21:33.16 | maquis_ | levi: like athena's birth? |
| 21:33.33 | levi | I believe that is the source of the name 'parthenogenesis' |
| 21:33.49 | maquis_ | i suppose that kind-of makes sense |
| 21:34.23 | maquis_ | although... i dunno... having the fully grown person spring from your forehead sounds even more painful than the existing process |
| 21:34.51 | maquis_ | particularly since, at least in zeus's case, it involved putting his head on an anvil and having a blacksmith crush his skull... |
| 21:35.40 | elg | i'd prefer a different method, thanks |
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| 21:48.18 | ^Migs^ | I think that's how my atheist neighbors reproduce |
| 21:51.49 | dataw0lf | no, we reproduce the same as you guys, just not as often. |
| 21:57.40 | ^Migs^ | atheists don't like reproducing |
| 21:58.01 | ^Migs^ | evolutionarily speaking, religionism is more viable |
| 22:01.31 | dataw0lf | reproducing a lot doesn't have as much impact on the longevity of a species as, say... well, I won't be antagonistic. But, especially amongst mammals, not too huge a deal, especially if your gestation period is 9 months. |
| 22:01.34 | emcnabb | actually, I think all people enjoy reproducing, it's just that some people are less interested in raising the offspring they create |
| 22:01.53 | dataw0lf | well, the act of reproducing, we do perform quite a bit more. |
| 22:02.23 | emcnabb | I was referring to the act |
| 22:02.39 | dataw0lf | yea. we love that. |
| 22:02.48 | emcnabb | the initial act, but one gender doesn't like the end of the process |
| 22:05.12 | dataw0lf | really? how so? |
| 22:07.21 | emcnabb | most women consider giving birth a painful, unpleasant experience |
| 22:07.38 | dataw0lf | ooh, gotcha. |
| 22:07.39 | emcnabb | they're happy about the end result, which usually makes it worth it |
| 22:12.02 | ^Migs^ | my wife's birth wasn't painful at all |
| 22:12.17 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 22:12.22 | ^Migs^ | my kids' births |
| 22:13.14 | dataw0lf | what's that called? drugs? |
| 22:13.48 | ^Migs^ | I think women complain about birth too much |
| 22:13.48 | emcnabb | epidural |
| 22:13.56 | ^Migs^ | it's probably not that bad |
| 22:14.00 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 22:14.27 | ^Migs^ | I think it's just because women are less pain-tolerant |
| 22:14.32 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 22:14.38 | ^Migs^ | generally speaking, of course |
| 22:14.59 | emcnabb | ... |
| 22:15.19 | emcnabb | let's see |
| 22:15.24 | emcnabb | ~lart maquis_ |
| 22:15.30 | dataw0lf | wrong, wrong, wrong? |
| 22:15.31 | ^Migs^ | uh oh |
| 22:15.41 | emcnabb | ~lart maquis_ |
| 22:15.49 | maquis_ | ~lart emcnabb |
| 22:16.03 | emcnabb | ibot_: it's just a flesh wound! |
| 22:16.10 | maquis_ | ~lart emcnabb |
| 22:16.15 | emcnabb | yummy |
| 22:16.22 | emcnabb | thanks ibot_! |
| 22:16.48 | dataw0lf | maquis_: After you have a kid, you can borrow my baseball bat to hit ^Migs^ with, if you want. |
| 22:17.11 | maquis_ | dataw0lf: thanks... i may take you up on that in a couple years |
| 22:17.26 | dataw0lf | I'll keep Ole Bessy ready. |
| 22:18.15 | emcnabb | maquis_: if you want you can borrow Billy |
| 22:18.16 | emcnabb | the club |
| 22:18.41 | maquis_ | emcnabb: i'll let lisa use billy... |
| 22:19.40 | goozbach | dreidel |
| 22:21.54 | goozbach | dreidel dreidel dreidel |
| 22:21.59 | goozbach | I made it out of clay |
| 22:24.10 | [phoenyx] | when it's dry and ready, with dreidel you shall play? |
| 22:27.02 | dataw0lf | shin, hey, gimel, nun! |
| 22:31.04 | goozbach | DRY and ready! |
| 22:31.04 | goozbach | thanks [phoenyx] |
| 22:31.07 | goozbach | I couldn't remember that one word |
| 22:31.32 | goozbach | this song has been stuck in my head since I heard it on the radio coming to work this morning |
| 22:37.35 | dataw0lf | it's the Jewish conspiracy that controls the media getting to you, duh. |
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| 22:48.46 | findlay | of course |
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| 23:03.54 | tensai | mysql question coming at you |
| 23:04.18 | tensai | I want to do a search and replace. Find any instance of "INBOX." and replace it with "INBOX/". |
| 23:05.58 | dataw0lf | UPDATE <table> SET <field> = replace(<field, "INBOX.", "INBOX/"); |
| 23:06.00 | dataw0lf | I think |
| 23:06.19 | dataw0lf | or just do it client side. :) |
| 23:06.40 | tensai | dataw0lf: trying it out now |
| 23:07.05 | tensai | I would do it manually but A) I have a ton of tables and B) I can't find a decent gui client that won't hang on my database |
| 23:07.11 | tensai | er, not table. rows |
| 23:08.10 | tensai | dataw0lf: perfect! |
| 23:09.02 | dataw0lf | sweet |
| 23:09.44 | Tene | dataw0lf: so how would you do it in pg? |
| 23:10.25 | dataw0lf | bout the same way |
| 23:12.46 | dataw0lf | actually, it'd probably work as described in pg. |
| 23:12.50 | dataw0lf | I think. |
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| 23:56.07 | jbellis | is there a way to reset iostat's since-boot numbers? |