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| 00:56.43 | findlay | hello |
| 00:59.44 | jsmith | hello |
| 01:00.09 | elg | do you like my hat? |
| 01:00.16 | jsmith | Is it red? |
| 01:04.47 | elg | wow he really ran |
| 01:21.01 | graphyx | elg do you have kids yet? |
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| 01:41.41 | mheath[laptop] | Is Tylenol PM likely to show up on any kind of drug test? =\ |
| 01:51.51 | maquis-fiance | mheath[laptop]: Tylenol PM will not show up on a drug test. Tylenol 3 with codeine will, but that requires a prescription. |
| 01:52.04 | mheath[laptop] | Just wondering |
| 01:52.15 | mheath[laptop] | last time I shipped off, I had so much trouble sleeping the night before |
| 01:52.18 | mheath[laptop] | and I want to enjoy my sleep |
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| 01:52.30 | mheath[laptop] | But I don't want to do anything that will jepordize my drug test. |
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| 01:53.29 | maquis-fiance | I can't think of any over-the-counter medications that would show up on a drug test. If you stick to those, you should be fine. |
| 02:02.21 | Supaplex | don't eat any poppy seed muffins :P |
| 02:07.47 | levi_home | OTC sleep-enducing drugs can have detrimental effect on the quality of your sleep. |
| 02:07.54 | levi_home | s/enducing/inducing/ |
| 02:09.13 | levi_home | I need to practice cooking more often. My latest efforts have had problems. |
| 02:16.48 | elg | graphyx: one |
| 02:25.34 | mheath[laptop] | http://www.thedailywtf.com/Images/200607/abort.jpg at last they're honost. |
| 02:25.49 | mheath[laptop] | levi_home, last time, though, I got around 3 hours of sleep that night |
| 02:26.02 | mheath[laptop] | And I really honestly needed sleep that night more than any other night of my life |
| 02:41.29 | graphyx | elg: What do you mean? |
| 02:44.09 | elg | one child |
| 02:44.43 | graphyx | Oh ok. |
| 02:44.45 | mheath[laptop] | I adore children |
| 02:44.50 | mheath[laptop] | When they belong to someone else. |
| 02:45.19 | graphyx | guess that you have read go dog go recently. |
| 02:46.20 | graphyx | mheath I agree. Now probably isn't the right time for you to have kids. |
| 02:47.24 | elg | graphyx: bingo. you win the prize :) |
| 02:48.07 | graphyx | elg: I have four kids. That was an easy one. |
| 03:04.33 | graphyx | do you like my book? |
| 03:04.51 | graphyx | hop on pop is another great one. |
| 03:04.57 | graphyx | bleh |
| 03:05.04 | graphyx | hes gone. |
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| 03:42.32 | atoponce | mheath[laptop]: ping |
| 03:42.39 | mheath[laptop] | atoponce, pong |
| 03:43.17 | atoponce | do you have those dapper cds? where ere you going to drop them off? |
| 03:44.57 | atoponce | ok. np |
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| 03:47.09 | atoponce | how many do you have, out of curiosity? |
| 03:48.25 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]: he doesn't have time right now |
| 03:48.31 | emcnabb | I mean atoponce |
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| 03:48.49 | mheath[laptop] | atoponce, I think like 60 x86, 10 64bit |
| 03:49.13 | atoponce | nice |
| 03:49.23 | atoponce | when do you take off, eh? |
| 03:49.40 | mheath[laptop] | tomorrow night, kind of |
| 03:50.15 | atoponce | if you still want me to take them, i can swing by tomorrow... |
| 03:50.41 | mheath[laptop] | We'll see. I'm busy all day tomorrow... |
| 03:50.53 | mheath[laptop] | Perhaps sometime from around 1-5PM I can drop them off =\ |
| 03:51.03 | atoponce | ok. sounds good |
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| 03:53.04 | atoponce | ~lart emcnabb |
| 03:53.49 | emcnabb | ~lart atoponce |
| 03:54.31 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]: enjoy |
| 03:54.39 | atoponce | mheath[laptop]: good luck |
| 03:54.57 | mheath[laptop] | heh, my alarm clock broke |
| 03:55.08 | mheath[laptop] | I don't trust it =\ |
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| 04:02.31 | levi_home | Reelg. |
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| 04:32.30 | levi_home | What sucks about Terminal? |
| 04:32.36 | levi_home | I've been quite happy with it. |
| 04:33.02 | atoponce | the random nature of my text going all over the terminal |
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| 04:33.31 | atoponce | sometimes i'm typing where i should be typing, other times, i'm typing in the middle of the screen |
| 04:33.41 | mheath[laptop] | bah |
| 04:33.46 | atoponce | and backspace doesn't behave as you would think it should |
| 04:34.01 | mheath[laptop] | why do people write stupid slogans that don't make sense like "The only number you need to know"....for a vending machine sales company. |
| 04:34.14 | levi_home | atoponce: I have not had any of these problems, except the backspace one for which there was a configuration option to change. |
| 04:34.20 | mheath[laptop] | I think there are plenty of numbers I need to know more than a vending machine dealers phone number |
| 04:34.27 | levi_home | atoponce: What are you doing to trigger these odd behaviors? |
| 04:34.31 | atoponce | levi_home: what are you using for you irc client? |
| 04:34.50 | levi_home | atoponce: I ssh to a Linux box, run screen, and run irssi in there. |
| 04:36.02 | atoponce | same here, and your typing just doesn't pop up to the middle of the screen? |
| 04:36.06 | levi_home | atoponce: A while ago, I used to run Colloquy. I liked it, but I prefer a more persistent connection than a client running on my laptop can provide. |
| 04:36.12 | levi_home | No, it doesn't. |
| 04:36.13 | atoponce | and constantly having to run /redraw |
| 04:36.23 | atoponce | man, it's a never-ending battle |
| 04:36.53 | atoponce | i'm on xterm now (x11 port for mac), but unicode isn't installed with it, and i'm looking at a white screen |
| 04:37.27 | levi_home | You can always change the colors. |
| 04:37.53 | atoponce | levi_home: know how? can't seem to find any tuts online... |
| 04:38.03 | levi_home | Using X resources. |
| 04:38.16 | levi_home | I haven't actually messed with those in ages, though. |
| 04:38.53 | atoponce | brb |
| 04:41.44 | levi_home | I think I had problems where I had to redraw the screen a lot when I was using putty, but Terminal has never given me trouble. |
| 04:52.37 | elg | anyone know of a way to get a memory footprint of a program? i.e. see how much memory it had allocated at the peak? |
| 04:54.18 | elg | atoponce: try rxvt emulation |
| 04:55.07 | elg | terminal is a decent app. something about os x terminal programs and hardcord terminalness doesn't jive though, although it's really pretty good with rxvt emulation |
| 04:55.23 | elg | the same goes for iTerm. A program which I highly recommend you do not get addicted to. |
| 04:55.52 | elg | you'll fight and fight with it, but you won't be willing to go back to non-tabbed Terminal.app |
| 04:56.45 | levi_home | I don't like tabbed terminals. |
| 04:58.49 | elg | I didn't back when I had gobs of screen space |
| 04:59.03 | elg | and didn't mind itsy bitsy fonts |
| 04:59.18 | elg | but these days I like to not strain my eyes and I don't have as much screen |
| 04:59.28 | levi_home | I can still fit 4 terminals non-overlapping on my screen with 10-pt Monaco. |
| 04:59.46 | levi_home | Or 2 terminals and emacs. |
| 04:59.52 | elg | I like to be able to cmd-tab between the browser or whatever other thing and the terminal, and be able to see most of whichever is in the bg too |
| 05:00.06 | elg | with terminal.app, if you cmd-tab to it all the terminals come to the front and obscure everything |
| 05:00.30 | elg | which is a big problem. especiallly if you're tabbing stuff. |
| 05:00.47 | elg | at least, if you work like I do |
| 05:00.48 | elg | :) |
| 05:01.10 | levi_home | That is sometimes annoying, but it's also sometimes good at keeping me from getting distracted by the browser or whatever non-terminal thing I've got open. :) |
| 05:01.13 | elg | I uses Anonymous 12 these days |
| 05:01.47 | levi_home | I've got Monaco 10 in my terminals and Lucida Sans Typewriter 10 in emacs. |
| 05:03.13 | elg | on a related note, gnome-terminal drives me nuts |
| 05:03.39 | levi_home | Why's that? |
| 05:03.42 | elg | here is a terminal with many features that is lauded by the gnomes, and has the primary feature I'm looking for (tabs) |
| 05:03.59 | elg | but is completely unusable with regard to tabs from the keyboard |
| 05:04.03 | levi_home | Hmm, Anonymous looks like a good screen font, though expensive. |
| 05:04.39 | elg | I have tried a half dozen times to get gnome/gtk/whatever to accept the key settings I want for navigating between tabs |
| 05:04.50 | elg | and opening new tabs, etc. and it refuses to takes |
| 05:04.55 | elg | expensive? |
| 05:05.12 | levi_home | Perhaps it's not the same one I found. |
| 05:06.00 | levi_home | http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/marksimonson/anonymous/ |
| 05:07.12 | elg | Hmm. that looks like the same font |
| 05:07.25 | levi_home | Oh, heh, it's freeware on the author's page. |
| 05:07.32 | elg | but I know I didn't pay for it |
| 05:07.33 | elg | heh |
| 05:07.52 | levi_home | Interesting. I wonder if he knows they're selling his font. |
| 05:08.19 | elg | "copyrighted freeware" - I'd wager he doesn't unless he's getting a cut |
| 05:08.29 | levi_home | Apparently he didn't even originally design it. |
| 05:08.49 | levi_home | He just did a TrueType version of it. |
| 05:09.00 | elg | ya |
| 05:09.42 | elg | hmm, maybe I could live with 11pt |
| 05:09.58 | elg | I oscillate back and forth in point sizes :) |
| 05:10.14 | elg | although I never even approach the miniscule scale vontrapp uses |
| 05:10.55 | levi_home | Yow, Anonymous 12 is huge. |
| 05:11.13 | elg | yup |
| 05:11.28 | elg | i'm old now, you know ;-) |
| 05:11.34 | elg | I turn 29 on Friday |
| 05:12.07 | levi_home | I'm older than you! :) |
| 05:12.18 | levi_home | I turned 30 in September. |
| 05:12.49 | elg | You should be using 13 pt then ;-) |
| 05:13.22 | atoponce | elg: how to do rxvt emulation with Terminal or iTerm, for that matter? |
| 05:14.17 | levi_home | Anonymous 9 with antialiasing is nice. |
| 05:16.26 | elg | atoponce: cmd-i |
| 05:16.30 | elg | in Terminal anyway |
| 05:16.51 | elg | iTerm's preferences are scattered across a bunch of dialogs and I can never keep them straight |
| 05:16.57 | elg | it's always hide and seek |
| 05:17.25 | levi_home | Terminal has two preference boxes. It's in the Preferences one rather than Window Settings. |
| 05:17.58 | atoponce | command not found |
| 05:18.00 | levi_home | With Anonymous at any size larger than 9, the window is too wide to have two side by side on my screen. |
| 05:18.41 | levi_home | atoponce: Go to Preferences in the Terminal window and select rxvt in the 'Declare terminal as type' box. |
| 05:19.07 | atoponce | got it, but still yptyping in the milleddle of my screen |
| 05:19.21 | atoponce | and dealing with the stupid backsapace key... |
| 05:19.27 | atoponce | drrrr |
| 05:19.35 | atoponce | s/drrr/grrr/ |
| 05:20.13 | atoponce | why me? |
| 05:21.07 | levi_home | atoponce: You have to create a new terminal before that takes effect, since it's just setting $TERM |
| 05:21.59 | atoponce | yeah. figured that out. however, still typing in some random spot on the terminal, rather that where i should be typing... |
| 05:21.59 | levi_home | atoponce: And you can click 'delete key sends backspace' in the Keyboard section of the Window Settings box. |
| 05:22.09 | atoponce | found that too |
| 05:22.21 | levi_home | And you're still having backspace issues? |
| 05:23.03 | atoponce | no, the backspace is fine now, just the placement of my typing text |
| 05:23.49 | levi_home | Are you using some funky font or window size or something? |
| 05:24.09 | atoponce | not that i know of. i haven't changed anything but the color |
| 05:25.12 | atoponce | monoco regular size 10 |
| 05:25.36 | elg | here's another screenshot of the final product http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/t38.png |
| 05:25.46 | elg | now with jet! |
| 05:25.49 | levi_home | Beats me. My screen/irssi combo works just fine with Terminal. |
| 05:25.55 | elg | same here |
| 05:26.05 | elg | I had issues with iTerm and the combo rxvt/utf-8 this morning |
| 05:26.54 | atoponce | ~lart Terminal |
| 05:27.43 | atoponce | and DarwinPorts is broken, so i can't get any cool software from there... |
| 05:27.49 | atoponce | haven't tried fink yet |
| 05:27.58 | elg | i like ports better |
| 05:29.43 | elg | atoponce: as for xterm, |
| 05:29.45 | elg | http://pastie.caboo.se/26811 |
| 05:29.54 | elg | put that in ~/.Xresources |
| 05:30.15 | elg | with your favorite font/colors |
| 05:30.46 | atoponce | what good is a terminal without unicode, though? |
| 05:30.54 | elg | hence uxterm |
| 05:31.06 | elg | though I'm not sure if it is on os x |
| 05:31.17 | elg | i haven't used xterm on os x much |
| 05:32.11 | elg | yeah, it's there |
| 05:32.18 | elg | it's not the default xterm in the menu |
| 05:32.29 | elg | but fire up uxterm et voilá |
| 05:33.37 | atoponce | what version of os x are you on? |
| 05:33.48 | elg | tiger |
| 05:34.38 | atoponce | and ports doesn't give you an error, eh? |
| 05:34.47 | elg | i haven't fired it up in a few days |
| 05:34.57 | elg | but last I tried it it worked fine |
| 05:35.20 | levi_home | I don't have enough hard drive space to install much stuff via darwinports or fink. |
| 05:36.57 | atoponce | dyld: /usr/bin/tclsh can't open library: /usr/lib/libcurl.3.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2) |
| 05:37.07 | atoponce | when i try to run 'port' |
| 05:47.52 | atoponce | i don't know why i bother. i just need to get on my linux box... |
| 05:53.31 | atoponce | i wonder if it's a script that i have loaded in irssi that's conflicting with it |
| 05:53.44 | atoponce | so far, my typing is how it should be |
| 05:53.57 | atoponce | hmmmm |
| 05:55.52 | atoponce | it looks like nicklist.pl is actually the culprit with it's hackish redrawing |
| 05:56.02 | atoponce | interesting... i'll have to blog about it |
| 05:57.56 | levi_home | Heh. And all this time you've been blaming Terminal... ;) |
| 05:58.28 | atoponce | ツ |
| 05:58.37 | atoponce | well, you can never be too sure |
| 05:59.51 | Supaplex | apt-get install omniscience |
| 06:00.51 | atoponce | Supaplex: already tried. insufficient disk space... :( |
| 06:32.25 | levi_home | What's weechat? |
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| 14:40.35 | atoponce | levi_home: weechat is another text-based irc client |
| 14:41.00 | atoponce | it has some interesting features that extend past irssi |
| 14:41.58 | atoponce | like builtin nicklist, python/perl/ruby scripting, horizontal and vertical window splits... |
| 14:43.04 | atoponce | it was still pretty wet behind the ears, last i tried it. irssi just is more mature |
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| 18:00.03 | Supaplex | am I blind, or does it say 5 reams of paper = free? http://officemax.shoplocal.com/officemax/Default.aspx?action=browsepagedetail&storeid=2420478&rapid=345667&listingid=-2093998360&pretailerid=-99861 |
| 18:00.14 | Supaplex | I bet it's a glitch :-/ |
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| 21:07.57 | Sargun | Supaplex, Try it. |
| 22:11.14 | encryptz | i just tried it, and it's charging me 21.99 per case |
| 22:17.35 | Tene | aww... no free paper. |
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| 22:40.44 | Supaplex | pity *sniff* |
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