| 00:01.34 | Tene | atoponce: must be the fault of whatever graphic environment you're using. |
| 00:02.18 | atoponce | maybe it's because i am using a windows-connected keyboard with synergy |
| 00:02.32 | Tene | perhaps |
| 00:03.38 | atoponce | hmm. yup. that's the problem, although, ctrl+shift still doesn't work... :( |
| 00:05.01 | findlay | I think it's pango's fault |
| 00:05.14 | atoponce | ~blame maquis |
| 00:05.24 | ibot | ACTION blames maquis (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 00:07.04 | atoponce | ah hah! |
| 00:08.03 | atoponce | findlay: beandog: hold down ctrl+shift. while holding down, press 'u' followed by the hex value |
| 00:08.15 | beandog | how do you find out the hex value? |
| 00:08.27 | atoponce | unicode.org |
| 00:08.40 | beandog | buh |
| 00:08.42 | beandog | rockin rollie. |
| 00:08.42 | atoponce | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite/HOWTOs?action=edit |
| 00:08.45 | atoponce | bah |
| 00:08.56 | atoponce | http://www.unicode.org/charts/ |
| 00:09.31 | beandog | wow |
| 00:09.33 | beandog | that eez cool. |
| 00:12.38 | atoponce | ｯ |
| 00:13.48 | macnewbold | atoponce: wa? |
| 00:13.50 | atoponce | ツ |
| 00:13.53 | atoponce | w00t |
| 00:14.02 | macnewbold | nice |
| 00:14.09 | macnewbold | you're even using katakana |
| 00:14.14 | atoponce | wait for it... |
| 00:14.35 | atoponce | ジ |
| 00:14.57 | atoponce | macnewbold: yeah. cool, eh? |
| 00:15.07 | macnewbold | very nice |
| 00:15.45 | atoponce | now to set that smile to an irssi alias... |
| 00:19.00 | atoponce | wow. a whole new world has been opened to my new irssi experience... i'm going to have to blog about this... ツ |
| 00:19.44 | Phishy | your only now using irssi? |
| 00:20.16 | atoponce | Phishy: heavens no. i've been using it for a while now... |
| 00:21.03 | Phishy | I love irssi. I just putty into a box in the back of the lab, log-in, then sneak into the back of the lab for hours acting like theres a problem. |
| 00:21.16 | Phishy | lynx is useful too |
| 00:21.18 | atoponce | Phishy: using it with screen? |
| 00:21.25 | Phishy | ya |
| 00:21.37 | Phishy | We have a ton of KVM monitors back there. |
| 00:21.49 | Phishy | I just like to have it ready when I walk back. |
| 00:22.47 | atoponce | it's the only way to go. ssh+screen+irssi=♡ |
| 00:23.58 | vontrapp | does anyone know how to get additional font things into xterm? |
| 00:24.10 | vontrapp | like, perhaps a khmer font |
| 00:24.27 | Phishy | Dell has this new thing call DRAC. Dell Remote Access Client. You can take control of the server via a any web browser and see the screen, control reboot, power cycling, remote media, stats, logs galore. |
| 00:24.30 | Phishy | I love it. |
| 00:24.48 | Phishy | You never have to see your server again once you plug it in and assign an ip. |
| 00:25.18 | vontrapp | so things like សួ​ស្ដី |
| 00:25.25 | vontrapp | will show up? |
| 00:25.30 | Phishy | It even lets your do LDAP authentication |
| 00:25.44 | Phishy | Not sure what សួ​ស្ដá is? |
| 00:26.31 | vontrapp | Phishy: i guess you didn't see boxes? |
| 00:26.59 | vontrapp | Phishy: what about this: µ? |
| 00:28.14 | goozbach | Dracs are nice |
| 00:28.37 | goozbach | just finished fixing a boot problem from across the country |
| 00:28.41 | goozbach | wahoo |
| 00:28.44 | atoponce | Tene: synergy actually causes a problem with the compose key, but not ctrl+shift+U. just fyi |
| 00:29.05 | Phishy | vontrapp, they just look like arabic symbols. |
| 00:32.40 | findlay | atoponce: gnome-character-map |
| 00:34.13 | atoponce | findlay: cool. |
| 00:35.47 | findlay | only down side is it doesn't remember your preferences |
| 00:36.21 | findlay | every time I open it I have to change the font, font size, "snap columns to powers of two", and "sort by unicode block" |
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| 02:47.31 | levi_home | http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/28/nutcracker-suite-played-exclusively-on-bicycle-parts/ |
| 03:01.53 | mrpull-_ | nick125: i don't know, but I bet it has some obscure military acronym he'd expect everybody to know |
| 03:04.16 | levi_home | Must not have been anything bad, since he's not here complaining about it. |
| 03:05.27 | Newsome | yet |
| 03:05.46 | levi_home | Yeah, he's probably still at work. |
| 03:25.38 | mheath[laptop]_ | nick125, sorry, our little idea isn't going to work out, apparently. |
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| 03:28.20 | levi_home | Heh, ought to have nice weather there. :P |
| 03:28.29 | mheath[laptop]_ | haha. |
| 03:28.43 | mheath[laptop]_ | It shocked me that they told me 11 days |
| 03:28.59 | mheath[laptop]_ | The recruiter said it would probably be 4 - 6 months |
| 03:29.02 | mrpull-_ | mheath[laptop]: ever been to Illinois in the winter? |
| 03:29.08 | mrpull-_ | it's not very warm |
| 03:29.14 | mheath[laptop]_ | mrpull-_, ever seen a USN peacoat? |
| 03:29.15 | levi_home | So you're going to train to be a nuke? |
| 03:29.19 | mheath[laptop]_ | It's very warm. |
| 03:29.34 | mheath[laptop]_ | levi_home, yep. After boot, I go to nuclear tech school in Charleston, South Carolina. |
| 03:29.36 | mrpull-_ | Does a peacoat cover your ears and nose? |
| 03:29.50 | mheath[laptop]_ | mrpull-_, no, but a scarf and a wool hat does. |
| 03:30.36 | mrpull- | The Chicago area is a blast. Sounds like fun. |
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| 03:42.52 | Newsome | just hope we've dug out of tonight's storm by the time you get here in 11 days. |
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| 03:43.37 | levi_home | mheath[laptop]_: Well, congrats on getting back into the military, though I still think you should have gone to the U instead. :) |
| 03:43.55 | Newsome | 8-12 inches of snow before noon tomorrow, and 45-mph winds |
| 03:44.17 | mrpull- | Newsome: dang. where at? |
| 03:44.22 | Newsome | Chicago. |
| 03:44.50 | mrpull- | So I guess you have a better handle on winter weather than I do from my one vist :) |
| 03:48.29 | findlay | wow, that's almost enough to drift over the Sears tower |
| 03:50.48 | Newsome | well, if we do get that much snow overnight, I don't think I'll be traveling downtown to find out. I'll probably work from home |
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| 04:15.01 | levi_home | Mmm, my wife made me some hot apple cider. |
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| 04:44.20 | atoponce | man... i'm overweight. :( |
| 04:54.11 | levi_home | Too much turkey and pie? |
| 04:58.38 | atoponce | more lack of exercise and proper nutrition |
| 04:58.47 | atoponce | aka: desk job and 2 dr peppers a day |
| 05:05.35 | levi_home | Well, you could always cut out the dr peppers. :) |
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| 05:10.51 | mheath[laptop]_ | levi: This Nuclear program is better than college. |
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| 05:11.13 | levi_home | mheath[laptop]_: Sure, if you want to learn nuclear physics. |
| 05:11.28 | mheath[laptop]_ | Two very advanced bachelors degrees, in less time than it would take to earn one at the U. |
| 05:12.11 | mheath[laptop]_ | levi_home, no...those two bachelors degrees are missing about 30 credits to complete |
| 05:12.31 | levi_home | What are you saying 'no' to? |
| 05:12.33 | mheath[laptop]_ | and depending on what credits I complete them with, one can be some non-nuclear-related engineering degree. |
| 05:12.47 | levi_home | Ahh, okay. |
| 05:13.03 | levi_home | So, you get to learn nuclear physics and some sort of engineering. |
| 05:13.42 | levi_home | That's not too bad, though you're going to go through the calculus wringer. |
| 05:18.56 | mheath[laptop]_ | haha |
| 05:19.06 | mheath[laptop]_ | Those of you who are wondering why USMC basic is really like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LY31AYUdkg&mode=related&search= |
| 05:20.46 | mheath[laptop]_ | Its a short clip. Take a look |
| 05:20.54 | mheath[laptop]_ | Max your volume for effect. :P |
| 05:21.13 | levi_home | Nah, I'm listening to Beethoven's symphonies. |
| 05:21.36 | mheath[laptop]_ | levi_home, take a look. It's 37 seconds |
| 05:21.48 | levi_home | No. |
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| 05:31.48 | mheath[laptop]_ | Sargun, take a look at this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LY31AYUdkg&mode=related&search= |
| 05:31.53 | mheath[laptop]_ | Tell me what you think it would feel like to be the guy in the center of the cluster. |
| 05:32.53 | Sargun | uh. |
| 05:34.16 | Sargun | buffering |
| 05:34.49 | Sargun | Is that you? |
| 05:35.04 | mheath[laptop]_ | No |
| 05:35.11 | mheath[laptop]_ | I've been in that exact situation before, though :P |
| 05:35.33 | Sargun | Wondering what everyone was saying |
| 05:36.00 | Sargun | and why they are yelling at me |
| 05:36.03 | Sargun | and when they'll stop |
| 05:36.25 | mheath[laptop]_ | Sargun, the guy that walks into the room at the very beginning is an officer |
| 05:36.50 | mheath[laptop]_ | And the guy getting yelled at is a recruit who was supposed to say something ("Good evening, sir!" then report his post) when the guy walks in, but he didn't |
| 05:37.01 | mheath[laptop]_ | So the Drill Instructors swarm is nice drill instructor fashion |
| 05:37.54 | mheath[laptop]_ | That room is just down the street from where my barracks was, anyway. |
| 05:38.43 | Sargun | So you forgot to say "good evening, Sir!" to an officer? |
| 05:39.07 | Sargun | Do the drill instructors just hang out, waiting for this. |
| 05:39.41 | mheath[laptop]_ | Sometimes |
| 05:39.46 | mheath[laptop]_ | That was probably early in training. |
| 05:39.55 | mheath[laptop]_ | IE, during the first couple weeks |
| 05:40.14 | mheath[laptop]_ | At first, ALL of your drill instructors are there almost all the time, and they're all watching for stuff like that |
| 05:40.39 | mheath[laptop]_ | Later on, you'll have 1 or 2 on deck at a given time |
| 05:41.05 | mheath[laptop]_ | Sargun, but the Drill Instructors may not have even noticed. If you listen carefully, the officer says something when the recruit doesn't say anyhting. |
| 05:44.18 | mheath[laptop]_ | Sargun, but thats what Drill Instructors are like |
| 05:44.33 | mheath[laptop]_ | You can't figure out, for the life of you, how they saw you doing something wrong |
| 05:44.38 | mheath[laptop]_ | They are the All Seeing Eye |
| 05:54.46 | mheath[laptop]_ | Goodnight |
| 06:03.09 | findlay | hello |
| 06:03.19 | levi_home | Hello, findlay |
| 06:03.48 | findlay | my computer is boring. It works |
| 06:03.53 | findlay | there's nothing to tinker with |
| 06:03.55 | nick125_lappy | break it! |
| 06:04.01 | nick125_lappy | take it out and set it on fire |
| 06:04.07 | findlay | my car, however doesn't work that well |
| 06:04.28 | findlay | I have to excercize great restraint against the temptation to rebuild the engine |
| 06:04.55 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 06:04.57 | findlay | OSS is a lot cheaper to hack on than cars |
| 06:04.59 | nick125_lappy | you could do that for fun :p |
| 06:05.00 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 06:05.33 | findlay | I tinkered around with the transmission one week and it cost me too much to be fun |
| 06:05.35 | levi_home | findlay: So write some new software instead of tinkering with other software. |
| 06:06.02 | findlay | well, it was fun, but the cost of the fun at the time of reconing tinctured the fun |
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| 06:18.15 | Sargun | findlay, your a gentoo user, right? |
| 06:19.28 | Sargun | Why is my mom having me snoop on my sister, this is not good. |
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| 06:40.33 | findlay | ~gentoo Sargun |
| 06:40.34 | ibot | ACTION recompiles Sargun again |
| 06:41.10 | Sargun | Do this 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="-*" emerge -e world' |
| 06:41.20 | findlay | sure |
| 06:41.34 | findlay | I run ~amd64 |
| 06:42.09 | findlay | back in the 2004-2005 era I discovered that all the fun stuff had shifted to testing |
| 06:42.44 | nick125_lappy | -* is fun |
| 06:42.45 | nick125_lappy | :p |
| 06:42.45 | brac | alright |
| 06:43.18 | findlay | stable became stable, just like debian. Debian is boring like that because it is stable |
| 06:43.39 | findlay | -* |
| 06:43.45 | findlay | ~* |
| 06:43.47 | ibot | hmm... * is asterisk |
| 06:44.19 | findlay | I do better than *- actually |
| 06:44.25 | findlay | I run ... *= |
| 06:45.32 | findlay | the code is so bleeding edge, it auto syncs to each developer's code tree every 5 seconds and recompiles them into the system |
| 06:46.05 | findlay | oh, man I got it backwards |
| 06:46.29 | findlay | oh well. +* is actually beyond bleeding edge. It grabs code from the future |
| 06:47.27 | findlay | somebody laugh to make me feel as if I'm funny |
| 06:47.32 | findlay | ibot: laugh |
| 06:47.33 | ibot | ACTION rolls around on the floor laughing |
| 06:47.43 | findlay | thanks ibot |
| 06:53.33 | findlay | and then there's ** and ^* |
| 06:58.39 | levi_home | findlay: An OS /should/ be stable. The fun stuff is what you do with the computer, not fixing stupid OS bugs. |
| 06:59.20 | levi_home | For example, I am writing a neural network to recognize handwritten digits in OCaml. |
| 07:05.59 | findlay | levi_home: sure and you're car is supposed to run perfectly |
| 07:06.15 | findlay | because fixing it is pointless |
| 07:07.20 | levi_home | findlay: I hate fixing my cars. Upgrading them is kind of fun, but only because of the results, not the process itself. |
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| 13:18.20 | elg | I know how I'd feel. I'd ask myself why I was so stupid to sign up for going deaf lessons |
| 13:19.25 | bonez41 | elg, ever use the Gimp? trying to figure out how to run a plugin.... |
| 13:19.35 | elg | I have but I'm never any good at it |
| 13:20.32 | bonez41 | it's pretty complex....I am trying a tutorial.and as with some FOSS resources, it's poorly documented... |
| 13:20.43 | bonez41 | too many assumptions are made about prior knowledge of the user |
| 13:21.34 | elg | what are you trying to do? |
| 13:25.03 | bonez41 | well, I installed joomla...to manage my web page....... and now I want to take out the various graphics that are with the default page, and change them to reflect my office name and such.....so I am using a tutorial...which tells me to use the plasma plugin....to add some color to a new layer..... |
| 13:28.08 | bonez41 | I think I found it..... |
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| 13:43.59 | goozbach | ~rot13 Dr, co yd. Ekrpat jrmcbiZ |
| 13:43.59 | ibot | Qe, pb lq. Rxecng wezpovM |
| 13:45.04 | elg | i think it's dvorak |
| 13:45.57 | graphyx | ~onjoin graphyx |
| 13:45.57 | ibot | onjoin for graphyx set by vontrapp on Wed Nov 29 19:10:42 2006: Dr, co yd. Ekrpat jrmcbiZ |
| 13:46.29 | graphyx | it isn't Dvorak |
| 13:46.47 | graphyx | I dont know what it is either |
| 13:47.06 | graphyx | ask vontrapp |
| 13:49.14 | goozbach | ~dedvorak Dr, co yd. Ekrpat jrmcbiZ |
| 13:49.29 | goozbach | dang |
| 13:49.32 | goozbach | ~dang |
| 13:50.15 | graphyx | goozbach: I already tried it. |
| 13:50.55 | graphyx | It is the following: Epw jr fev >nplay hpmxc: |
| 13:53.02 | graphyx | Well last night, I work on a new toy. |
| 13:53.19 | graphyx | I got my NSLU2 unslung. |
| 13:53.24 | elg | you must happy |
| 13:53.49 | graphyx | now I have a little server to play with. |
| 13:54.33 | graphyx | and it is always on and my wife doesnt care that it is always on. |
| 13:59.35 | graphyx | It can even run asterisk. |
| 14:00.54 | graphyx | How do I make bash be the default shell? |
| 14:02.18 | goozbach | http://the.inevitable.org/anism/2006/11/29.html#a825 |
| 14:05.02 | graphyx | that is bad |
| 14:05.06 | graphyx | xad |
| 14:05.09 | graphyx | bad bad bad |
| 14:05.56 | goozbach | lojban? |
| 14:12.07 | goozbach | nope not lojban |
| 14:28.02 | redbeard1 | http://www.dilbert.com/ |
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| 15:09.09 | ^Migs^ | can anyone recommend a good FOSS for tracking web traffic, other than Analog? |
| 15:10.27 | atoponce | graphyx: how's dvorak coming along? |
| 15:11.59 | atoponce | ^Migs^: i know of an online service. not foss, but the best i've seen: http://statcounter.com |
| 15:12.47 | redbeard1 | ^Migs^: i'm a pretty big fan of awstats... but that's not quite what you need, is it? |
| 15:13.11 | ^Migs^ | how would statcounter work with a portal application? |
| 15:13.17 | ^Migs^ | since every page requires a login... |
| 15:13.20 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 15:13.24 | ^Migs^ | since every page is behind a login |
| 15:13.37 | ^Migs^ | that didn't make sense either. What's awstats? |
| 15:14.05 | ^Migs^ | haha, awstats doesn't let me view the site with IE |
| 15:15.35 | graphyx | atoponce: Well I am getting better, but it takes time. |
| 15:16.00 | atoponce | ^Migs^: you just put javascript code in your template |
| 15:17.03 | atoponce | in the root of the domain that is, and it will track anything beneath the root domain |
| 15:17.13 | redbeard1 | ^Migs^: awstats is a log analyzer, but it also supports adding a .js script to pages to collect additional information |
| 15:17.30 | ^Migs^ | ah, nice |
| 15:17.49 | atoponce | caveat though, it is designed to see how people are reaching your site, where they come from, and what system/browser they are using |
| 15:17.51 | ^Migs^ | however, I don't like the fact it connects to a remote service. I'm dealing with sensitive info here. |
| 15:18.31 | atoponce | hmmm. yeah. statcounter may not be what you need. really good service though. ツ |
| 15:18.49 | ^Migs^ | yeah, it looks sweet |
| 15:18.57 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 15:19.12 | ^Migs^ | and awstats looks nice, too |
| 15:20.12 | ^Migs^ | I think I'm just going to use Analog, though |
| 15:20.42 | scott | After my computer has been on for about 4 hours (very rough estimate) it will start making a lot of noise and the power source fan moves very slowly. If I shut it off and turn it back on it the sound goes away. Anyone seen this? sound like the power source, or at least its fan, is going out? It's a dell, can I buy a replacement from any local shops (utah valley) or are the dell ones special sizes? |
| 15:24.29 | ^Migs^ | actually, I'm going to use Analog + Awstats. OMGWOW |
| 15:24.31 | Jayce^ | likely going out, possibly just dust.. |
| 15:25.21 | ^Migs^ | that's not going to cause any conflicts, is it? |
| 15:25.28 | tristanbob_ | shouldn't |
| 15:25.38 | tristanbob_ | I think awstats reads the apache logs |
| 15:26.10 | tristanbob_ | I haven't used analog |
| 15:26.15 | graphyx | That is right. |
| 15:27.06 | graphyx | awstats will have you use an apache combined log file. |
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| 15:29.52 | ^Migs^ | Analog reads the apache logs too, but since they're just reading, it shouldn't be a problem, I think |
| 15:32.42 | redbeard1 | ^Migs^: shouldn't be a problem. i use awstats + google analytics, plus i get a few stats from the google adsense and amazon ads that i use on my site. if you're using two different log analyzers tho, you probably want to run them at different times just to reduce load. |
| 15:33.56 | graphyx | good advice |
| 15:34.09 | ^Migs^ | um |
| 15:34.20 | ^Migs^ | how are these going to work with a J2EE app I deploy from an EAR? |
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| 15:42.12 | ^Migs^ | namely, from WebLogic |
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| 16:06.10 | levi | Morning, everyone. |
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| 16:16.47 | mheath[laptop]_ | Sigh. |
| 16:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | U of U for you? |
| 16:17.55 | findlay | levi: I enjoy repairing things as long as it's instructive. When I'm not learning anything I don't like it at all |
| 16:18.06 | mheath[laptop]_ | ScytheBlade1, no. I'm in the Navy now. |
| 16:18.10 | mheath[laptop]_ | I leave a week from Monday. |
| 16:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | So, then why the "Sigh." ? |
| 16:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Or not |
| 16:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | afk, heading to work |
| 16:26.29 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 16:26.50 | ^Migs^ | are we going to be hearing about how awesome the Navy is now? |
| 16:27.07 | ^Migs^ | ;) |
| 16:30.42 | graphyx | Ok, which of these packages is most likely to include a cli mail command for sending email like "echo "Backup completed at `date`." | mail mike@klingler.us -s "? |
| 16:30.49 | spr | hm. 10000 email messages takes a long time to scp. |
| 16:31.23 | graphyx | mutt nail postfix sendmail ? |
| 16:32.01 | spr | I think postfix and sendmail both will |
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| 16:34.07 | graphyx | ok |
| 16:34.14 | graphyx | thanks |
| 16:34.25 | goozbach | which mail returns /bin/mail |
| 16:34.36 | elg_ | you're welcome |
| 16:34.38 | goozbach | which is owned by the package mailx on fedora |
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| 16:36.30 | mheath[laptop]_ | ScytheBlade1, just shocked I'm leaving so soon, again! |
| 16:36.39 | mheath[laptop]_ | This is like it was when USMC called me up to ship early |
| 16:36.42 | mheath[laptop]_ | I have so little to do |
| 16:36.43 | mheath[laptop]_ | erm |
| 16:36.49 | mheath[laptop]_ | So much to do in so little a time |
| 16:39.44 | mheath[laptop]_ | Christmas shopping for everyone, cleaning, getting some last minute bills payed.... |
| 16:39.46 | elg | kind of like finals week |
| 16:40.04 | mheath[laptop]_ | Don't even make me think about finals |
| 16:40.13 | mheath[laptop]_ | I'm trying to not even think how hard my training will be after bootcamp |
| 16:40.18 | mheath[laptop]_ | and just focus on boot camp right now |
| 16:40.25 | elg | this will be my last two weeks of full-load classwork. evar |
| 16:40.49 | elg | up until this semester I'd say I'd miss it. but I'm really truly done with taking classes now |
| 16:45.31 | graphyx | spr: nope. neither one did. |
| 16:45.52 | spr | well, you can use the sendmail binary from either in a pinch |
| 16:46.56 | graphyx | how can I find out which package a given file is from? |
| 16:47.05 | graphyx | in debian |
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| 16:49.17 | spr | dpkg can tell you. You'd have to look at the man page, don't have my debian box handy at the moment. |
| 16:50.10 | ^Migs^ | OMGFRIDAY |
| 16:50.18 | graphyx | spr: I found it. |
| 16:50.55 | levi | elg: So, that was just one full year of classes? |
| 16:51.14 | elg | 3 semesters, yeah |
| 16:51.18 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]_: good luck, stay tough |
| 16:51.18 | elg | at 9 credit hours each |
| 16:51.31 | elg | ibot: sing hangin' tough |
| 16:51.53 | elg | i did squeeze in a little bit of research, but mostly classes |
| 16:51.54 | findlay | so I called oct (again). They claim (again) that there's no firewall |
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| 16:52.17 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]_: so what will you be doing in the Navy? |
| 16:52.18 | findlay | I should have said, "Look, nmap doesn't lie" |
| 16:52.28 | cww | mheath[laptop] I heard you got into the Navy |
| 16:52.56 | findlay | everybody portscan this address: |
| 16:53.04 | findlay | nmap -T5 -P0 67.137.24.115 |
| 16:53.09 | findlay | tell me what you get |
| 16:53.23 | levi | elg: You've still got classes to take, don't you? Just not a full load? |
| 16:53.31 | elg | just one |
| 16:53.55 | maquis | http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/parentalcontrols.mspx |
| 16:54.03 | maquis | anyone notice anything funny on the first screenshot? |
| 16:54.09 | elg | one elective |
| 16:54.09 | levi | Your Ph.D program consists of a total of 10 classes? |
| 16:55.03 | levi | maquis: Yeah, that's not going to be very effective. |
| 16:55.06 | maquis | yeah |
| 16:55.16 | maquis | i find that rather entertaining |
| 16:56.15 | cww | what do you mean? I NEVER use passwords on my privileged accounts |
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| 16:56.24 | cww | ever, never ever |
| 16:56.34 | SB1-Laptop | findlay, :22, :25, :80, and :2000 tcp open |
| 16:57.04 | findlay | interesting, I don't get :2000 |
| 16:57.05 | elg | i see 22, 25, 80 135, 137, 138, 139, 445, 1434, 2000, and 4444 |
| 16:57.20 | SB1-Laptop | elg: but all of the SMB ports are filtered ;) |
| 16:57.28 | elg | true. filtered |
| 16:57.40 | elg | I guess that's a bug in vgrep |
| 16:57.47 | elg | levi: yeah |
| 16:58.12 | levi | elg: For some reason, I thought there would be more actual classes involved. |
| 16:58.13 | findlay | elg: strange. How did you get all those ports? |
| 16:58.16 | elg | that's basically the masters courseload. phd is "have a masters and take so many research hours and do the research" |
| 16:59.03 | elg | it might be different at different schools. I had expected more too, but I've asked my advisor several times to make sure I have it straight |
| 16:59.21 | elg | they don't really have all that many more classes I could take, in any case |
| 16:59.23 | findlay | SB1-Laptop: what command did you use? |
| 16:59.39 | elg | certainly nothing relevant to my topic |
| 16:59.48 | SB1-Laptop | findlay, -sS -T Insane -P0 |
| 17:00.12 | SB1-Laptop | Also, apparently, your hostname is jfindlay.us |
| 17:01.03 | elg | findlay: http://pastie.caboo.se/pastes/create |
| 17:01.05 | elg | er argh |
| 17:01.26 | elg | http://pastie.caboo.se/25296 |
| 17:01.51 | levi | elg: I guess you teach yourself now. :) |
| 17:02.02 | elg | yup :) |
| 17:02.11 | elg | read lots of papers |
| 17:02.16 | graphyx | You getting your phd? |
| 17:02.35 | findlay | SB1-Laptop: did you get lots of these: |
| 17:02.37 | findlay | sendto in send_ip_packet: sendto(5, packet, 44, 0, 67.137.24.115, 16) => Operation not permitted |
| 17:03.16 | SB1-Laptop | findlay, I sure did not |
| 17:03.23 | elg | yup |
| 17:03.30 | findlay | what does that mean? |
| 17:05.26 | findlay | SB1-Laptop: can you paste yours as well for posterity? |
| 17:05.33 | SB1-Laptop | findlay, uhh, sec |
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| 17:06.15 | SB1-Laptop | findlay, http://pastey.net/2892 |
| 17:06.21 | findlay | thanks |
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| 17:17.17 | tristanbob | I have a question about hardware appliance who use GPL software - do they have to release source code? |
| 17:19.11 | SB1-Laptop | Only if they modify it |
| 17:19.43 | tristanbob | there are so many appliance that do this, but none release source |
| 17:19.43 | levi | elg: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=246 |
| 17:19.54 | SB1-Laptop | So sue them! ;) |
| 17:20.07 | SB1-Laptop | That said, it is possible that they don't modify the source |
| 17:20.10 | tristanbob | SB1-Laptop: I don't think it is illegal - in gpl v2 |
| 17:20.18 | elg | levi: exactly :) |
| 17:20.35 | tristanbob | what is the definition of "derivitave works" |
| 17:20.58 | mrpull | tristanbob: tivo ships GPL software with their appliances |
| 17:21.01 | mrpull | see http://www.tivo.com/linux/linux.asp |
| 17:21.56 | tristanbob | how about barracuda, or any of the DNS/DHCP appliances? |
| 17:22.02 | SB1-Laptop | ~wiki Derivative work |
| 17:22.06 | tristanbob | Bluecat adonis (debian based) |
| 17:22.09 | mrpull | i think the "good guys" that ship GPL software (linksys, tivo, panasonic's new HD-DVD player) have GPL notices |
| 17:22.43 | tristanbob | mrpull: thanks for the links |
| 17:23.01 | mrpull | remember, they only have to provide source for the GPL 'ed software, there is nothing that prevents them from mixing closed software and GPL software on the same appliance |
| 17:23.30 | elg | levi: http://www.printmojo.com/PHD/Store/Product.php?ProductID=7105 |
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| 17:24.44 | vontrapp | where do you get that lorem ipsum filler text stuff? |
| 17:24.48 | mrpull | tristanbob: send their support an inquiry. it might be a canned response, but I bet they'll send something back. |
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| 17:27.17 | elg | http://www.lipsum.com/ |
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| 17:36.20 | mheath[laptop]_ | OK, I'm going to go get my Christmas Shopping done. |
| 17:36.27 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]_: you excited? |
| 17:36.35 | emcnabb | you kind of don't sound that way |
| 17:36.42 | mheath[laptop]_ | emcnabb, Still just kinda in shock |
| 17:36.48 | emcnabb | when do you leave? |
| 17:37.00 | mheath[laptop]_ | The recruiter told me the wait would be 4 to 6 months. I told them I wanted to leave ASAP, but I wasn't expecting this |
| 17:37.02 | maquis | mheath[laptop]_: in shock about? |
| 17:37.12 | mheath[laptop]_ | emcnabb, 10 days. |
| 17:37.24 | mheath[laptop]_ | maquis: Being in the USN, and leaving in 10 days. |
| 17:37.37 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]_: that's quick |
| 17:37.38 | mheath[laptop]_ | But, I've got to go. I need to go get _all_ of my Christmas shopping done. |
| 17:37.45 | cww | mheath[laptop]_ what rate did you get |
| 17:38.08 | mheath[laptop]_ | cww, not sure on the rate yet. I went into the Nuclear Field; it will either be MM, EM, or ET. That gets decided while I'm at RTC. |
| 17:38.42 | cww | ZOMG, you're gunna be a nuke... didn't I warn you about that? |
| 17:39.06 | mheath[laptop]_ | cww, yeah, and I'm going in witht he full expectation that I'll probably struggle with the training and get reassigned |
| 17:39.29 | mheath[laptop]_ | $18,000 and an average starting salary of $80,000 in the civilian world really attracted me :P |
| 17:40.09 | mheath[laptop]_ | Hmm. How to handle my money today..... |
| 17:40.33 | mheath[laptop]_ | I don't want to deposit all my paychecks, because I need to spend it today and theres too much turnaround time for my debit card |
| 17:40.33 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]_: so whatcha getting me for Christmas? |
| 17:40.34 | cww | well, the training is difficult, but very good, but you're going to be a slave to that reactor. 2:00am reactor startups, when the restof the crew is going on liberty, you'll be doing reactor shutdowns... and OMG, the drills, the inspections. |
| 17:40.56 | mheath[laptop]_ | but I don't want to carry around $1,000 in cash, either. |
| 17:41.04 | mheath[laptop]_ | cww, haha. |
| 17:41.09 | findlay | emcnabb is getting me a Strad viola |
| 17:41.17 | mheath[laptop]_ | I'm just thinking about Navy boot right now. Wondering what it will be like |
| 17:41.20 | emcnabb | findlay: sure... |
| 17:41.28 | cww | in the long run, it will be good, but expect to devotwe your life to nuclear power while you are in |
| 17:41.39 | cww | BTW, congrats |
| 17:41.52 | maquis | mheath[laptop]_: it sounds interesting... congrats |
| 17:41.52 | mrpull | mheath[laptop]: sign up for a department store credit card for each store you go to |
| 17:41.56 | mheath[laptop]_ | Everyone tells me I'll have an easy time with it, having done USNSCC and gone through part of USMC boot.....but, then again, everyone told me they couldn't swear at you at USMC boot. So...I don't know how to believe. |
| 17:42.00 | mrpull | then never pay them back |
| 17:42.03 | maquis | emcnabb: what do i get for christmas???? |
| 17:42.18 | mheath[laptop]_ | maquis, cww, thanks :) |
| 17:42.22 | mheath[laptop]_ | It surprises me how fast things progressed |
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| 17:42.58 | mheath[laptop]_ | I went from, two months ago, thinking I'd never be in the military to, a month ago, having some hope, to yesterday, being pretty sure I'm going in but nervous, to now....leaving in a week :P |
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| 17:43.16 | SB1-Laptop | Oops, wrong button |
| 17:43.22 | mheath[laptop]_ | Are Wii's still really hard to find? |
| 17:43.27 | emcnabb | maquis: not sure, what do you think your parents will get you? :-) |
| 17:43.40 | SB1-Laptop | htp://uncyclopedia.com/wiki/Image:Wp_ayb.gif <-- that is AWESOME. |
| 17:43.43 | cww | the Holy grail is easier to find than a Wii |
| 17:43.44 | maquis | emcnabb: lol |
| 17:43.44 | mheath[laptop]_ | That is, I wouldn't be able to find one on the shelf at Walmart, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. wouuld I? |
| 17:43.53 | SB1-Laptop | s/htp/http/ |
| 17:44.08 | mheath[laptop]_ | uh |
| 17:44.15 | mheath[laptop]_ | I get a godaddy.com park page |
| 17:44.16 | findlay | huh |
| 17:44.24 | SB1-Laptop | doh |
| 17:44.25 | SB1-Laptop | .com |
| 17:44.32 | SB1-Laptop | erm |
| 17:44.34 | SB1-Laptop | ................... |
| 17:44.38 | SB1-Laptop | <-- still waking up |
| 17:44.39 | SB1-Laptop | .org |
| 17:46.11 | mheath[laptop]_ | 8 months from now, I will be Petty Officer 3rd Class Michael Heath, USN |
| 17:46.30 | mheath[laptop]_ | lmao |
| 17:46.44 | mheath[laptop]_ | they gave me a couple pages with printed job information, about the Nuke field |
| 17:46.55 | mheath[laptop]_ | but it was obviously cut-and-pasted from some other article, to use the template |
| 17:47.06 | mheath[laptop]_ | Because theres randomly a paragraph that talks about training to be in a band. |
| 17:48.24 | mheath[laptop]_ | anyway |
| 17:48.26 | mheath[laptop]_ | be back later. |
| 17:48.27 | cww | mheath[laptop]_ well, you'll start out as a Seaman Recruit, every one in basic is... are you going subs or surface? |
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| 18:17.55 | *** kick/#utah [^Migs^!n=erins@166.70.63.216] by maquis (you're scaring me) |
| 18:17.59 | elg | hey ho nobody home |
| 18:18.57 | elg | eat nor drink nor money have I none |
| 18:19.11 | elg | then shall we be merry! |
| 18:19.24 | elg | ~scare maquis |
| 18:19.26 | ibot | ACTION puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at maquis |
| 18:19.40 | elg | (wait for it) |
| 18:22.22 | macnewbold | elg, that's a great song |
| 18:23.07 | elg | BYU Singers does a great job |
| 18:24.06 | Jayce^ | PP&M |
| 18:24.20 | elg | never heard their version |
| 18:24.27 | elg | but i'm glad they wrote it |
| 18:25.00 | emcnabb | http://finance.google.com/finance?q=SCOX |
| 18:25.01 | emcnabb | nice |
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| 18:25.16 | emcnabb | down 40% so far today |
| 18:25.36 | maquis | emcnabb: sweet... what happened? |
| 18:26.01 | elg | maquis: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061129165103775 |
| 18:26.16 | elg | emcnabb: anything happen today or yesterday additinoal? |
| 18:26.58 | emcnabb | don't think so |
| 18:27.41 | emcnabb | and it's down 98.79% since March 31th 2000 |
| 18:27.46 | maquis | sweet |
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| 18:50.33 | levi | Heh, 'SCO Gets TKO'ed' precipitated quite a drop there... |
| 18:50.50 | maquis | TKO? |
| 18:50.59 | maquis | ~TKO |
| 18:51.09 | levi | Boxing term, technical knock out |
| 18:51.09 | maquis | ah |
| 18:51.23 | maquis | levi: so, what does that mean? |
| 18:51.40 | levi | Clearly you didn't play enough Punch Out! |
| 18:51.50 | levi | It means you lose. |
| 18:52.16 | elg | whenever I played punch out, I wished it had ear biting programmed in |
| 18:52.30 | maquis | levi: i figured that much out.. |
| 18:52.37 | maquis | but... is it like a technical foul? |
| 18:52.44 | elg | total knock out |
| 18:52.51 | elg | iirc |
| 18:53.01 | levi | Well, it means you didn't really get knocked out, but you can't continue to fight. |
| 18:53.06 | maquis | ok |
| 18:53.07 | levi | elg: No, it's technical, not total. |
| 18:53.12 | elg | technical knock out then :) |
| 18:53.27 | maquis | so, when's the bbq? |
| 18:56.13 | elg | indoor bbq? |
| 18:56.43 | maquis | no... the one in the sco parking-lot |
| 18:57.19 | elg | summer? :) |
| 18:57.55 | maquis | i dunno... |
| 18:58.18 | maquis | it's supposed to be whenever sco crashes to the ground |
| 18:58.42 | elg | they're only mostly dead at this point |
| 18:58.48 | maquis | yeah... |
| 18:58.55 | maquis | but with any luck, it won't be long... |
| 18:59.23 | elg | the sco/ibm case won't be heard until after novell/sco which will be in september |
| 19:01.32 | maquis | hmmm |
| 19:01.44 | maquis | so, we have to just sit here and watch for another year? |
| 19:02.07 | levi | Who's watching? |
| 19:02.15 | maquis | i suppose the watching could be entertaining... |
| 19:02.17 | ^Migs^ | my coworker is making me feel self-conscious about talking to myself. He keeps coming over asking "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING TO YOURSELF ABOUT CAN I SEE?" |
| 19:07.19 | levi | Aww, this poor student from Russia wants me to send him a sleeping bag or clothes or other stuff like that! Or money, if it's more convenient.... |
| 19:08.12 | levi | Mmm, doritos: http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=115267&ran=146714 |
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| 19:10.43 | graphyx | For sendmail on commandline, how do I get it to use a from header? |
| 19:12.20 | graphyx | nvm got it |
| 19:18.54 | elg | my wife makes fun of me for talking to myself all the time |
| 19:19.48 | macnewbold | my wife sometimes makes fun of me, because she feels like she's talking to herself |
| 19:20.44 | elg | :) |
| 19:21.35 | levi | Hah. |
| 19:21.51 | levi | My wife just talks enough for both of us. :) |
| 19:22.07 | graphyx | macnewbold: Sounds like a different problem to me. |
| 19:22.17 | macnewbold | slightly |
| 19:22.31 | macnewbold | often I'm talking to myself, at least inside my head, while she's talking to herself |
| 19:22.40 | macnewbold | it gets me in trouble from time to time |
| 19:22.44 | macnewbold | but I'm working on it |
| 19:24.43 | mheath | cww, no, I will start off as a Seaman. |
| 19:25.00 | mheath | cww, I won't wear the insignia in boot, but I will be an E-3. |
| 19:25.08 | mheath | I am ALREADY an E-3 (in the IRR / DEP) |
| 19:30.05 | mheath | cww, But, I'm doing surfac |
| 19:30.08 | mheath | *surface |
| 19:30.15 | mheath | Aircraft Carrier for me :) |
| 19:31.45 | mheath | cww, They didn't ask me, though. My contract says "Non-Submarine Volunteer", and I Didn't notice that until today, but they never asked me. |
| 19:31.53 | cww | mheath: ah, so you'll be gettign paid as an E3 while in boot, interesting |
| 19:31.54 | graphyx | will you get much time on irc? |
| 19:32.13 | mheath | graphyx, not for two months. |
| 19:32.33 | mheath | During A school and Nuke school, I'll have my laptop and internet access. |
| 19:32.37 | cww | mheath, are you familiar with the operations tempo of a CVN? |
| 19:32.55 | cww | you are going to be one salty dog |
| 19:33.23 | mheath | cww, Yes. I spent some time working kind of as a crew member of the Reagan during a training I went to with the Sea Cadets. |
| 19:35.24 | mheath | cww, I don't mind being on a CVN |
| 19:37.09 | tensai | redbeard1: your prose is much more readable than that review was. still not quite sure what he said. |
| 19:38.56 | levi | tensai: I think he said 'food is hard', or something. |
| 19:41.27 | redbeard1 | heh. |
| 19:41.53 | redbeard1 | i was just blathering. but then again, my native language isn't russian |
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| 19:47.04 | mheath | Time to go wrap presents. |
| 19:56.29 | tristanbob | Does anyone perform personal backups to a secondary site, such as a family member's house? |
| 19:56.47 | tristanbob | I have considered a backup service, such as Mozy.com, but I bet I can do it cheaper myself |
| 19:57.02 | tristanbob | (a 500 GB hard drive only costs $150) |
| 19:57.53 | tristanbob | I wonder what software would work best - I think an rsynch-type software is necessary since we are backing up tens of GB of data on a slow cable internet |
| 19:58.09 | goozbach | bacula looks cool |
| 19:58.09 | graphyx | tristanbob I do it. |
| 19:58.23 | tristanbob | goozbach: isn't that for tapes? |
| 19:58.28 | tristanbob | graphyx: do tell! |
| 19:58.43 | graphyx | tristanbob not that much data thou. |
| 19:59.05 | goozbach | tristanbob: just like tar|dump|amanda etc it uses a tape "device" which can be ANYTHING |
| 19:59.05 | tristanbob | I want to backup all my photos, songs, videos, and documents |
| 19:59.17 | goozbach | including a pipe through ssh to a remote server. |
| 19:59.32 | graphyx | I got a NSLU2 hacked with a 40 gig USB drive on it. |
| 19:59.59 | graphyx | You could put a larger drive |
| 20:00.12 | tristanbob | NSLU2? |
| 20:00.18 | graphyx | yes |
| 20:00.24 | tristanbob | ok, I will google it |
| 20:01.27 | graphyx | I put some linux firmware on it. |
| 20:01.38 | graphyx | unslung |
| 20:01.44 | graphyx | it is called |
| 20:01.54 | tristanbob | do you backup to it remotely? |
| 20:02.51 | graphyx | tristanbob I have the local system tar in all up and do cronjob downloads |
| 20:19.13 | ^Migs^ | the word cronjob always makes me giggle for some reason |
| 20:21.49 | tensai | bacula is cool. it does not handle large numbers of files well though. when I say large, I mean large. like a few million. |
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| 20:22.11 | tristanbob | tensai: it would work well for a personal backup, right? |
| 20:22.19 | tensai | tristanbob: yeah, I'm sure |
| 20:22.45 | tensai | we found limitations with it for our mail server and I wouldn't recommend it for that purpose |
| 20:24.14 | tristanbob | I wonder if I can manage the bandwidth usage, so that it doesn't bog down web surfing |
| 20:26.48 | tensai | I don't know that bacula can handle that itself, but I'm sure there's some qos you could do |
| 20:48.33 | ^Migs^ | how do I set up awstats to work with a non-Apache server, like WebLogic? |
| 20:48.59 | tensai | that's awesome. from the kde desktop pager I can move windows around. |
| 20:49.24 | levi | tensai: You can drag them between desktops with the gnome pager, too. |
| 20:49.36 | graphyx | ^Migs^: it is possible that awstats stands for Apache web stats. |
| 20:50.02 | tensai | I don't know how anybody can work without multiple desktops. I'd go crazy. |
| 20:50.23 | graphyx | ^Migs^: So just do a log style converson |
| 20:50.28 | tensai | levi: I kinda figured but I don't have gnome installed to test |
| 20:50.59 | ^Migs^ | it's not that |
| 20:51.20 | ^Migs^ | WebLogic generates Apache-style logs, but in the config, it says "Enter full config file path of your Web Server. Example: /etc/httpd/httpd.conf" |
| 20:51.24 | ^Migs^ | it's looking for httpd.conf |
| 20:51.51 | ^Migs^ | and I don't have an httpd.conf to give it |
| 20:51.52 | graphyx | ^Migs^: you can do it all by hand. |
| 20:52.28 | ^Migs^ | do what by hand? |
| 20:53.24 | maquis | ^Migs^: do you have an apache2.conf? |
| 20:54.06 | ^Migs^ | uh, probably |
| 20:54.10 | maquis | you might be able to give it the apache2.conf... if not, you might be able to create an httpd.conf that just sources apache2.conf |
| 20:54.50 | graphyx | ^Migs^: I can't recall it all, but I installed it without pointing it to my config. |
| 20:55.18 | maquis | graphyx: it might've found your config where it was expecting it |
| 20:56.20 | graphyx | maquis no I have my server on debian and it splits the config into many parts. |
| 20:57.03 | maquis | graphyx: yeah... but those all get sourced by something, right? |
| 20:57.49 | maquis | man... i've got all my apache2 config brain-cells getting destroyed... |
| 20:58.19 | ^Migs^ | Hey, today's International AIDS day |
| 20:58.21 | graphyx | It seems to we now that a lot of typing is learning the different transistions between all of the different letter combinations. |
| 20:59.14 | ^Migs^ | the day when people can proudly pronounce how sexually promiscuous they are |
| 21:04.27 | ^Migs^ | not me, of course |
| 21:11.56 | tristanbob | tensai, goozbach, graphyx: it also looks like amanda is a pretty nice solution |
| 21:21.40 | goozbach | I lost my config can I have yours? |
| 21:27.14 | ^Migs^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PZbb0fkoP0&NR |
| 21:28.38 | mheath[laptop]_ | What would be the correct way to pluralize a title and a name when theres two people with the same name and the same title? |
| 21:28.56 | mheath[laptop]_ | IE, there is Lieutenant Commander Almaguer, and his wife, Lieutenant Commander Almaguer. |
| 21:29.14 | mheath[laptop]_ | Lieutenant Commanders Almaguer? |
| 21:32.41 | ^Migs^ | yes |
| 21:36.32 | graphyx | do name and name |
| 21:37.12 | mheath[laptop]_ | "Lieutenant Commander Almaguer and Lieutenant Commander Almaguer"? |
| 21:37.24 | atoponce | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/search/index.php?q=magical+trevor |
| 21:37.24 | mheath[laptop]_ | or "Lieutenant Commanders Almaguer and Almaguer"? |
| 21:37.28 | graphyx | 2 |
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| 21:46.29 | ^Migs^ | http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/30/magazines/fortune/obrienseagate.fortune/ |
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| 21:46.45 | ^Migs^ | SAN FRANCISCO (Fortune) -- Sitting at the arm of a tech CEO during a corporate dinner is rarely as interesting as you might imagine. Usually, the CEO stays on message throughout the meal as a PR flak hovers, smiles, nods and prods the conversation along. Just keep the drinks coming, guys. |
| 21:46.50 | ^Migs^ | Not so with Bill Watkins, the mercurial, salty-mouthed Texan who runs the $15 billion hard-drive king Seagate Technology. At a San Francisco dinner on Tuesday evening, he was candid about his company's ultimate mission: "Let's face it, we're not changing the world. We're building a product that helps people buy more crap - and watch porn." |
| 21:46.54 | ^Migs^ | hahahaha |
| 21:50.01 | maquis | oops |
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| 22:53.45 | elg | sweet. my opengl view actually looks like mountains |
| 22:53.58 | elg | not a black screen. not a strange alien crystal |
| 22:59.20 | findlay | ~rot13 Dr, co yd. Ekrpat jrmcbiZ |
| 22:59.20 | ibot | Qe, pb lq. Rxecng wezpovM |
| 22:59.24 | findlay | ah ha! |
| 22:59.44 | elg | ".w lx n'v Pq.jbi ,.;lrkM |
| 23:01.36 | atoponce | findlay: i have it decoded |
| 23:02.00 | atoponce | good encryption scheme, although weak |
| 23:04.32 | atoponce | ~onjoin graphyx |
| 23:04.32 | ibot | onjoin for graphyx set by vontrapp on Wed Nov 29 19:10:42 2006: Dr, co yd. Ekrpat jrmcbiZ |
| 23:04.49 | atoponce | ~onjoin vontrapp |
| 23:06.01 | atoponce | ~onjoin vontrapp yd. Ekrpat co lprxaxnf jrmcbi anrbi bcj.nfv |
| 23:06.01 | ibot | ok, atoponce |
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| 23:19.21 | emcnabb | I'm so ready for bed tonight |
| 23:19.26 | emcnabb | and it's only 6:20 |
| 23:21.11 | herlo | nice |
| 23:31.10 | bonez39 | I don't run mozilla-thunderbird often, but every now and then, I open it up...it's been about a week..and now, when I open, it is blank..no accounts there..any suggestions how to revive it? |
| 23:34.09 | bonez39 | I found the -profilemanager option...I see two options now...default and default user....default won't run, says another instance is already running, and default user...wants to start up blank |
| 23:52.58 | bonez39 | E F HUTTON here....I pose question, and everyone's silent..hehe |
| 23:56.02 | macnewbold | bonez: if you're completely sure no other process is running, you can check for a lock file and get rid of it if you find one. |