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| 00:57.37 | elg | what's more boring than doing tedious graphics calculations by hand? |
| 00:57.48 | elg | watching the professor do tedious graphics calculations by hand. |
| 01:11.11 | emcnabb | ~wake elg |
| 01:11.14 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on elg and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 01:15.40 | redbeard2 | fozz isn't here? |
| 01:20.16 | Tene | he's not on IRC very often |
| 01:22.45 | redbeard2 | Tene: didn't he post his slides from the catalyst presentation somewhere? |
| 01:22.50 | emcnabb | used to be |
| 01:22.52 | Tene | yeah |
| 01:23.18 | redbeard2 | Tene: where can i find them? i'm not seeing them on his site |
| 01:23.23 | Tene | redbeard2: he sent a mail to pluglist with a url in it. |
| 01:23.47 | redbeard2 | Tene: thanks, i'll check the archives then |
| 01:24.23 | Tene | Ahh, here we go. |
| 01:24.33 | redbeard2 | Tene: found em, thanks |
| 01:24.33 | Tene | http://castro.iodynamics.com/~fozz/installing_catalyst_fc5.pdf |
| 01:24.38 | Tene | http://castro.iodynamics.com/~fozz/catalyst_modules.pdf |
| 01:24.47 | redbeard2 | i almost beat you to 'em |
| 01:25.31 | redbeard2 | hey thanks tene, i appreciate it |
| 01:27.21 | Tene | np |
| 01:32.15 | redbeard2 | Tene: do i need to run cpan2rpm -i on each package individually, or can i put them all on the same command line? |
| 01:32.53 | Tene | Individually. |
| 01:33.31 | redbeard2 | k thanks |
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| 01:53.33 | maquis | redbeard2: cool cookies |
| 01:54.02 | redbeard2 | maquis: hey thanks! |
| 01:59.42 | maquis | redbeard2: why are you #2? |
| 02:06.26 | graphyx | redbeard2 is the evil twin. |
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| 02:59.22 | friocorte | blargfooblarg |
| 03:07.21 | friocorte | stupid connection |
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| 03:44.22 | tuple | __Art who? |
| 03:46.09 | __Art | art moore, who's askin'? |
| 03:53.27 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 04:01.08 | mrpull- | 'evening... |
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| 04:34.56 | friocorte | ibot_: urls |
| 04:35.14 | friocorte | where is brac? |
| 04:35.53 | Sargun | Why are you using friocorte, and not ooz? |
| 04:35.55 | Sargun | gooz? |
| 04:36.19 | Sargun | Who killed goozbach? |
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| 04:42.43 | friocorte | but he's here |
| 04:43.03 | friocorte | goozbach: speak if you can hear me |
| 04:43.27 | friocorte | and pings respond |
| 04:44.14 | friocorte | ctcp pings however |
| 04:44.34 | friocorte | normal pings do not |
| 04:44.45 | Sargun | What does friocorte mean? |
| 04:44.53 | Sargun | or where'd you get it? |
| 04:45.29 | atoponce | hot cold? |
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| 04:46.48 | friocorte | friocorte: from the frio and corte |
| 04:47.00 | Sargun | oh |
| 04:47.00 | _Snyder_ | oi |
| 04:47.04 | Sargun | That is boring. |
| 04:47.10 | friocorte | WAAAY back in the day, when I was young and impressionable |
| 04:47.27 | friocorte | there was a movie, hackers |
| 04:47.46 | friocorte | zerocool was the handle that the protaginost had |
| 04:47.54 | friocorte | so I got thinking... |
| 04:47.59 | _Snyder_ | i had forgotten all about that movie. Ive not seen it forever |
| 04:48.06 | friocorte | I should have a 'hacker' handle |
| 04:48.31 | atoponce | anjelina jolie is ho..., er, i mean, a great actress. :) |
| 04:48.31 | friocorte | so I came up with coolcut |
| 04:48.36 | friocorte | hot! |
| 04:48.38 | friocorte | wow! |
| 04:48.50 | atoponce | yes. yes she is. |
| 04:48.59 | atoponce | ~seen findlay |
| 04:49.16 | ibot | findlay <n=justin@Brentwood-mikrotik.veracitycom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2d 8h 22m 21s ago, saying: '~whalenuke oct'. |
| 04:49.26 | friocorte | coolcut is translated to friocorte |
| 04:49.30 | friocorte | even better |
| 04:49.34 | atoponce | spanish? |
| 04:51.13 | goozbach | hmm working |
| 04:51.22 | goozbach | yeah spanish |
| 04:51.30 | calvarez | hmm? |
| 04:51.40 | friocorte | tired even |
| 04:51.55 | calvarez | ~seen Angelina_Jolie |
| 04:52.02 | ibot | calvarez: i haven't seen 'angelina_jolie' |
| 04:52.31 | goozbach | ibot_: you should |
| 04:52.32 | calvarez | oh well, I kindof figured... |
| 05:13.15 | Tene | http://b.armory.com/~relsqui/pictures/misc/modernwebdesign.png |
| 05:15.17 | atoponce | Tene: haha. isn't that the truth? |
| 05:15.39 | atoponce | i think i relate more to getting the site layout right without tables using just css. :) |
| 05:15.55 | atoponce | been there. done that *WAY* too many times. :) |
| 05:20.18 | calvarez | rofl |
| 05:20.29 | calvarez | I'm sooo glad I'm pretty much done with web development |
| 05:20.35 | calvarez | I don't want to do that ever again |
| 05:21.28 | calvarez | for me it's graphics, virtual and augmented reality now :) |
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| 05:43.50 | TheTiGuR | Any nfs guru's around? |
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| 05:44.59 | linuxalien | Enjoy the snow! |
| 05:45.34 | TheTiGuR | you can have mine |
| 05:45.36 | linuxalien | I shoulda taken a picture of it. <smacks head> |
| 05:47.41 | jsmith | TheTiGuR: Wanna Fedex it to me? |
| 05:48.00 | TheTiGuR | I'll see what I can do to box some up |
| 05:48.27 | TheTiGuR | I'll make sure to label it 'Not a bomb', so they don't worry about the box being wet |
| 05:49.38 | linuxalien | hahaha |
| 05:50.50 | Sargun | TheTiGuR, Not guru, but what are you trying to do? |
| 05:52.13 | TheTiGuR | Mostly just wondering if there is a limit on the number of connections to an nfs share/server |
| 05:52.46 | Sargun | Yes. |
| 05:52.49 | Sargun | There is |
| 05:53.11 | Sargun | NFSv3 only I think |
| 05:53.32 | Sargun | I think default its 32k |
| 05:53.48 | TheTiGuR | Can you point me towards documentation that might be more specific in this regard? |
| 05:55.16 | Tene | http://l.armory.com/~cerise/pix/flashphoto.jpg |
| 05:55.36 | Sargun | Tene, Heh |
| 05:56.19 | TheTiGuR | Amazing what flash can do for your pictures |
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| 06:43.36 | Tene | ibot: fix your nick |
| 06:43.44 | ibot | ACTION takes your nick to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 06:44.54 | Tene | ibot: that... uh... that's not what I mean. |
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| 14:21.15 | maquis | wow... quote of the day from the news: |
| 14:21.26 | maquis | 5:43 a.m. Microsoft says its entire Redmond campus for the day. |
| 14:21.55 | emcnabb | ? |
| 14:22.05 | maquis | they forgot the word "closed" |
| 14:22.23 | maquis | seattle doesn't handle snow very well |
| 14:22.51 | emcnabb | ah, ok |
| 14:22.52 | maquis | my area of town is far enough out that we don't even get the snow plows until everywhere else gets done with them |
| 14:23.14 | maquis | although, my bus is one of the very few that is still running... |
| 14:23.16 | emcnabb | yeah, I live in a wimpy part of the country now too |
| 14:23.30 | maquis | my manager spent 4 hours trying to get home last night, though... |
| 14:23.40 | maquis | and that wasn't even at rush hour |
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| 14:23.48 | maquis | (he left work at 10pm and got home at 2am) |
| 14:25.15 | goozbach | ha ha snow! |
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| 14:25.21 | maquis | :) |
| 14:25.22 | goozbach | I laugh at the face of snow! |
| 14:25.33 | graphyx | goozbach: Snow doesn't have a face.. |
| 14:25.39 | graphyx | Unless it's the north face. |
| 14:25.46 | graphyx | And I don't think many people laugh at the north face. |
| 14:25.54 | graphyx | especially if it is covered in snow. |
| 14:26.30 | maquis | http://www.king5.com/business/stories/NW_112706BUBcybermondayJM.2de1468b.html |
| 14:46.04 | redbeard1 | ~lart maquis |
| 14:49.54 | maquis | ~lart redbeard1 |
| 14:49.58 | goozbach | very apt lart |
| 14:50.06 | goozbach | cybermonday is trollbait |
| 14:50.23 | maquis | we got mentioned :) |
| 14:51.01 | graphyx | plug got mentioned? |
| 14:51.07 | graphyx | Oh wait you work at amazon. |
| 14:51.09 | graphyx | that's right. |
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| 15:08.09 | goozbach | I blame Canada for the snow |
| 15:08.22 | goozbach | I hope it doesn't rain this afternoon. |
| 15:08.31 | goozbach | I need to haul my new bookshelf home |
| 15:09.01 | goozbach | it's called |
| 15:09.07 | goozbach | Wood You |
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| 15:09.32 | redbeard1 | that's a strange name |
| 15:11.16 | graphyx | how much wood wood a wood you you, if a wood you could you wood? |
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| 15:12.54 | goozbach | it' sells unfinished furniture |
| 15:13.15 | graphyx | like ikea? |
| 15:13.19 | goozbach | it's really pretty cool |
| 15:13.37 | goozbach | no, not particle board unASSEMBLED furniture |
| 15:14.01 | goozbach | real wood, Assembled un stained and un finished furniture |
| 15:14.10 | goozbach | high quality stuff |
| 15:14.53 | goozbach | they've got this great modular entertainment-center/desk/cabinet series |
| 15:15.09 | goozbach | you pick and match the peices you want and they make them fit together |
| 15:15.13 | goozbach | very cool |
| 15:17.08 | graphyx | sweet. |
| 15:17.12 | graphyx | That in Utah? |
| 15:17.21 | goozbach | nope |
| 15:17.23 | goozbach | Tally |
| 15:17.30 | goozbach | mostly the southeast |
| 15:17.50 | goozbach | methinks I'm going to make most my furniture purchaces before I move back |
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| 15:21.47 | scothoser | Morning everyone! |
| 15:22.27 | goozbach | interesting |
| 15:22.45 | goozbach | i suspended irssi instead of switching screen windows |
| 15:25.04 | Sargun | hi |
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| 15:42.48 | levi | There are unfinished furniture places in Utah, too. |
| 15:53.51 | goozbach | levi: but not wood you |
| 15:53.54 | goozbach | :) |
| 15:54.12 | goozbach | I'll have to look into the Utah alternatives |
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| 16:22.46 | emcnabb | you know you work at a cool company when the CEO gets on IRC to do question and answer sessions |
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| 16:33.03 | ^Migs^ | question and answer sessions for whom? |
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| 16:37.58 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: employees |
| 16:40.02 | tensai | emcnabb: was it scott mcnealy at sun who wanted to do blog posts for q&a? |
| 16:40.50 | tensai | I think he was petitioning the ftc so that blogs could be used instead of teleconferences |
| 16:46.10 | emcnabb | tensai: interesting |
| 16:46.27 | emcnabb | everyone here uses IRC, so that's the natural place to do it |
| 16:48.56 | graphyx | makes sense to me. |
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| 16:52.18 | redbeard1 | note: much easier to use the cat-install script to install catalyst than to try and do all the dependencies manually |
| 16:54.04 | levi | note: much easier to not install catalyst at all. ;) |
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| 17:08.00 | redbeard1 | levi, sure, but what fun is that? |
| 17:08.31 | levi | Plenty! It means you can do something more fun than web programming. ;) |
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| 17:10.13 | redbeard1 | there's more to life than web programming? |
| 17:11.02 | macnewbol1 | that better be rhetorical... |
| 17:11.21 | redbeard1 | oh, fudge |
| 17:11.33 | redbeard1 | i guess i could make fudge instead of web programming |
| 17:11.33 | macnewbold | where? |
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| 17:19.46 | levi | Not very complete, eh? |
| 17:29.44 | macnewbold | elg: is that "every piece is not present" or "not every piece is present"? |
| 17:30.05 | elg | well, it's got almost everything |
| 17:30.12 | elg | it's just that I keep picking songs that aren't there |
| 17:30.42 | elg | some of them are spurious/doubtful attribution and so I understand, but it's still annoying |
| 17:32.33 | ^Migs^ | you know what would be cool? Getting some Christmas piano gigs at restaurants or department stores or malls or stuff |
| 17:32.58 | ^Migs^ | sounds like you need to expand your repertoire, elg |
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| 17:35.38 | Lone_Wanderer | What does wsdl stand for? |
| 17:35.52 | levi | Pure evil. |
| 17:35.59 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 17:36.21 | Lone_Wanderer | "So what do you do for work?" "I write programs which automatically generate pure evil." |
| 17:37.18 | levi | It stands for 'web services definition language', but you can tell it means 'pure evil' by the first two letters. |
| 17:38.32 | levi | http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple/ |
| 17:38.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Because web services are the very spawn of Be'elzebub? |
| 17:40.23 | ^Migs^ | whoa |
| 17:40.30 | ^Migs^ | we're ordering lunch from La Ferrovia today |
| 17:42.16 | levi | Because 'web services' refers to an ever-changing morass of overly-complex, poorly-specified XML-heavy ways to make your web-based software subtly (or obviously) broken. |
| 17:43.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmmm, I see. |
| 17:44.12 | Lone_Wanderer | This worries me a bit. |
| 17:44.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Especially given what I know about the people on the receiving end of my SOAP/WSDL/POC requests. |
| 17:47.09 | levi | It's like CORBA all over again, except less efficient and less standardized. |
| 17:47.57 | levi | I predict failure in a few years as the whole thing collapses under its own weight and people implement simple things that actually work instead. |
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| 17:50.02 | levi | piece of crap? |
| 17:50.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Bingo |
| 17:50.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, pile. But the sentiment is the same. |
| 17:51.32 | atoponce | http://www.dvzine.org/ |
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| 18:00.16 | ^Migs^ | A double amputee has been jailed for a year after leading police on a high-speed car pursuit, using modified broom handles to control the vehicle. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wear/6192628.stm |
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| 18:02.13 | redbeard1 | did i miss anything? |
| 18:05.10 | atoponce | Lone_Wanderer: yes. qwerty is evil. good observation |
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| 18:07.08 | __Art | hey is anyone out there? Trying to figure out why my computer keeps freezing everytime I put an audio CD in. |
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| 18:11.17 | Keighvin | ~lart redbeard1 |
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| 18:13.42 | elg | ^Migs^: I need to expand my repertoire because the songs I want to learn to expand my repertoire are not in the "complete works" CD? |
| 18:13.49 | elg | that's logic for you |
| 18:16.47 | ^Migs^ | too logical, in fact |
| 18:18.55 | emcnabb | elg: you've forgotten that ^Migs^ is the 3rd most logical person on #utah, after mheath and sargun |
| 18:19.57 | elg | for all he knows I already know everything on the CD already |
| 18:20.33 | atoponce | emcnabb: he must type on dvorak then. :) |
| 18:20.42 | atoponce | s/on/using/ |
| 18:24.08 | graphyx | In hacker/security terms poc means proof of concept, or piece of code. |
| 18:25.56 | emcnabb | :-) |
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| 18:27.28 | graphyx | elg: I really enjoyed that sciencefriday podcast. The topic of the ig noble awards is amuzing, but I really enjoyed the presentation that they put together for it. The humor meets science mixture that they put together kept me on my toes. |
| 18:27.42 | elg | yeah, it was neat. |
| 18:27.54 | elg | the podcast isn't usually funny, but it is informative and interesting |
| 18:28.03 | elg | the ig nobel awards were just plain funny |
| 18:28.04 | graphyx | elg: I liked there 247 section. |
| 18:28.12 | graphyx | s/there/their/ |
| 18:28.32 | ^Migs^ | I thought it was only 10% funny |
| 18:28.35 | graphyx | and the little voice, please stop, I'm bored if the speaker didn't get any laughter for a while was interesting. |
| 18:28.39 | Keighvin | What's wrong with using dvorak? |
| 18:28.44 | graphyx | ^Migs^: 10% on what scale? |
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| 18:28.54 | elg | the ^Migs^ scale of bitterness |
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| 18:34.06 | Lone_Wanderer | "Because PHP is dynamically typed, there is no need to compile the package..." |
| 18:34.29 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 18:35.09 | Lone_Wanderer | That's where I stopped reading and put the site on the "My God, it's full of idiots!" list. |
| 18:35.14 | ^Migs^ | hahahahaha |
| 18:35.34 | macnewbold | hehe |
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| 18:35.58 | xbmodder | hey |
| 18:36.09 | ^Migs^ | omghai |
| 18:37.37 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: Wow talk about mixing orthogonal topics with an air of authority. |
| 18:43.42 | ^Migs^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.42 | ^Migs^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.42 | ^Migs^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.42 | ^Migs^ | | Y Y \ / /_/ >___ \ |
| 18:43.42 | ^Migs^ | |__|_| /__\___ /____ > |
| 18:43.43 | ^Migs^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.12 | Lone_Wanderer | What exactly is this? |
| 18:45.00 | macnewbold | try it in a monospaced font... |
| 18:45.41 | macnewbold | it looks much better that way |
| 18:46.04 | graphyx | cut and paste to vim/notepad |
| 18:46.18 | rsimpkins | Hi all. I'm looking for a shell util that returns the number of new messages in an mbox I can specify. Does anyone know of something? |
| 18:46.23 | graphyx | In short it is an idol to his own selfworth. |
| 18:46.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Still not doing it for me. |
| 18:46.44 | graphyx | in notepad? |
| 18:46.47 | ^Migs^ | actually, I accidentally pasted my clipboard |
| 18:46.48 | graphyx | It says migs |
| 18:46.50 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah, in Cairo |
| 18:46.52 | Lone_Wanderer | ok |
| 18:46.56 | Lone_Wanderer | err, courier |
| 18:46.58 | ^Migs^ | found an ASCII art generator site |
| 18:47.28 | graphyx | have you see the starwars IV in ascii telnet site? |
| 18:47.39 | ^Migs^ | haha, where is it? |
| 18:47.51 | SB1-Work | telnet blinkenlights.nl |
| 18:47.52 | rsimpkins | that is so old, where has ^Migs^ been? |
| 18:47.53 | SB1-Work | I think |
| 18:48.05 | SB1-Work | hmm, not quite |
| 18:48.15 | graphyx | telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl |
| 18:48.20 | SB1-Work | There we go |
| 18:49.18 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.18 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.19 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.19 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.19 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.23 | graphyx | From the telnet.. |
| 18:49.52 | mrpull | I hear the DVD version is pretty good too |
| 18:49.59 | graphyx | LOL |
| 18:50.31 | mrpull | but you might need to buy a "dvd player" instead of a "compact disc" player |
| 18:50.41 | ^Migs^ | lol @ Princess Leia |
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| 19:02.58 | emcnabb | http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-8658065268222085253&hl=en-AU <-- warning, there is a swear word (phrase) |
| 19:03.12 | emcnabb | but it is funny |
| 19:04.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Fine! |
| 19:04.59 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll do it! I'll read the WSDL spec! |
| 19:05.23 | mrpull | emcnabb: hehehe. i had to tone it down a bunch since having kids. |
| 19:05.37 | mrpull | emcnabb: I haven't heard them cuss... yet |
| 19:05.43 | levi | I want to try out a Wii. |
| 19:05.52 | mrpull | the Wii looks like a blast |
| 19:06.12 | emcnabb | mrpull: you don't realize how much kids listen sometimes |
| 19:06.13 | mrpull | I don't want to sit down and play marathon sessions of FPS's anymore |
| 19:06.22 | emcnabb | levi: mrpull it does look fun |
| 19:06.48 | mrpull | emcnabb: I do realize. my kids repeat things that amaze me. and the crap they pick up from tv is nuttier |
| 19:06.54 | Lone_Wanderer | I think that reading these specs calls for some coke and licorice. |
| 19:07.08 | Keighvin | It goes both ways, though - us parents have to pick up kid-related things. |
| 19:07.10 | levi | I've got a PS2, but I never play it. The only game I played on it is GT3, and my wife is not at all interested in that. |
| 19:07.17 | Keighvin | I can recite multiple Barbie movies by heart. |
| 19:07.19 | mrpull | my son will only say a couple of words in spanish... he watches way too much Dora & Diego |
| 19:07.23 | Keighvin | Not a claim I ever thought I could make. |
| 19:07.30 | Keighvin | s/could/would/ |
| 19:07.34 | levi | Not many games on the PS2 interest my wife, though she plays some computer games frequently, like the Sims. |
| 19:07.59 | mrpull | levi: i think I could get my wife to play with a Wii (is that too racy to say in #utah) |
| 19:08.20 | SB1-Work | lol |
| 19:08.23 | SB1-Work | Only if you want it to be it is |
| 19:08.44 | mrpull | we killed a lot of time playing the warioware game on GBA |
| 19:08.53 | mrpull | i wonder if the Wii version is as fun |
| 19:09.26 | Newsome | I don't want to hear about your wife playing with your wii |
| 19:09.41 | mrpull | oh man.... how could nintendo not think of that |
| 19:09.56 | ^Migs^ | what makes you think they didn't think of that? |
| 19:09.59 | graphyx | My wife likes pokemon. |
| 19:10.02 | graphyx | she is really into the games. |
| 19:10.02 | SB1-Work | mrpull, trust me, they did |
| 19:10.11 | graphyx | She has a character up to 60 horus in like 3 weeks. |
| 19:10.14 | SB1-Work | mrpull, as did just about every web comic out there (gaming related) |
| 19:10.17 | ^Migs^ | the lame jokes are free advertising |
| 19:10.54 | graphyx | how is this. My company has a server with the subdomain name of https |
| 19:11.03 | graphyx | which, BTW, doesn' |
| 19:11.11 | graphyx | doesn't have an https server on it. |
| 19:11.42 | graphyx | sounds like a spammer technique. |
| 19:11.50 | graphyx | IT's secure. it has https on the browser line. |
| 19:11.54 | graphyx | https.ebay.com |
| 19:13.25 | SB1-Work | Sounds like a sammer technique indeed |
| 19:13.39 | graphyx | I am not saying I work for ebay, that was just an example. |
| 19:13.52 | SB1-Work | Yeah |
| 19:16.08 | graphyx | 100Gb or 100 GB? |
| 19:16.21 | graphyx | I could probably live with 100Gb currently. |
| 19:16.33 | levi | gigabyte, I believe. |
| 19:16.36 | graphyx | Especially if I got the download/upload speed that utopia gives out. |
| 19:17.06 | graphyx | I scurrently suffer with 384KB/64KB speeds. |
| 19:17.11 | Keighvin | ~lart Sandy for not opting into UTOPIA. |
| 19:17.25 | graphyx | But it takes multiple hours to upload my digital photos to my website. |
| 19:17.26 | levi | "I can download so much faster, so I should be able to download so much MORE than those lame DSL people!" |
| 19:17.35 | graphyx | 5.0 megapixel camera. |
| 19:17.43 | graphyx | shouldn't take all night to upload a cd's worth of data. |
| 19:17.50 | ^Migs^ | I usually recompress all my pictures to be half the size |
| 19:17.59 | ^Migs^ | megabyte-wise, not dimension-wise |
| 19:18.30 | ^Migs^ | "OMG YOU'RE RUINING THE QUALITY" |
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| 19:18.38 | ^Migs^ | Right, but I really don't notice a significant difference. |
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| 19:20.16 | mrpull | all of the videos and photos of flying WiiMotes make me laugh |
| 19:20.24 | mrpull | somebody is going to put an eye out |
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| 19:20.40 | SB1-Work | People have already destroyed some very expensive TVs |
| 19:20.45 | levi | That's what they get for not using the safety wrist-strap! |
| 19:20.53 | findlay-w | hello |
| 19:21.00 | SB1-Work | The safety wrist strap breaks ;) |
| 19:21.05 | graphyx | ^Migs^: The gallery program I have will do thumbnails, and reduce the size to 1024x768 for causal viewing and allow full sized downloads later on. |
| 19:21.16 | graphyx | I have 60 gigs on space, so it is just transfer time that is the only issue. |
| 19:21.23 | graphyx | If it gets really bad I can just upload them here from work. |
| 19:21.47 | graphyx | we only have a 150 mbps 220mbps dual failover uplinks. |
| 19:25.54 | KickerDog | My Wii is itching too |
| 19:26.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Make sure nobody's watching when you scratch it. |
| 19:26.28 | findlay-w | ~asteroids |
| 19:26.57 | findlay-w | what? ibot_ doesn't have a factoid on asteroids? :0 |
| 19:27.19 | KickerDog | I'm sure I could fill it in on the details |
| 19:27.43 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot, asteroids are miniscule compared to the size of findlay's Wii |
| 19:27.45 | ibot | Lone_Wanderer: okay |
| 19:28.08 | ^Migs^ | my pictures usually end up at 2MB each, so I just reduce them to 1MB, but keep the same dimensions |
| 19:28.13 | findlay-w | ~wii |
| 19:28.14 | ibot | The toilet is thataway ... |
| 19:28.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Given the context, that was more or less inevitable :p |
| 19:28.23 | Lone_Wanderer | ~asteroids |
| 19:28.24 | ibot | asteroids are miniscule compared to the size of findlay's Wii |
| 19:28.33 | findlay-w | ~dict wii |
| 19:28.35 | atoponce | findlay-w: where have you been mr?! |
| 19:28.43 | findlay-w | nowhere |
| 19:28.47 | atoponce | oh. ok. |
| 19:29.22 | atoponce | hey- your dad and roslyn are planning a family get-together, but i don't think everyone will be there. |
| 19:29.32 | atoponce | just your family and my in-laws |
| 19:29.33 | elg | he's been playing wii |
| 19:29.41 | elg | findlay-w: you don't happen to have BWV 751 do you? |
| 19:29.44 | findlay-w | what's wil? |
| 19:29.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone here want to buy a car stereo? |
| 19:30.03 | elg | $5 |
| 19:30.06 | findlay-w | elg: what's the name? |
| 19:30.11 | elg | in dulci jubilo |
| 19:30.23 | findlay-w | is it one of the chorales? |
| 19:30.24 | elg | but not 729 or 608, though those are fine versions too |
| 19:30.27 | elg | yes, it's a chorale |
| 19:30.32 | elg | but "spurious" |
| 19:30.44 | emcnabb | elg: one of my favorites |
| 19:30.53 | findlay-w | hm, the Bach keyboard cd sheet music is supposed to have all the corales |
| 19:31.04 | findlay-w | or maybe it was the organ one |
| 19:31.05 | elg | yeah but this is spurious |
| 19:31.17 | elg | organ. I have the bach organ cd sheet music and it does have lots of choralse |
| 19:31.25 | elg | it has 750 and 752 |
| 19:31.30 | elg | but not 751 :( |
| 19:31.34 | findlay-w | probably not then |
| 19:31.55 | findlay-w | elg: just go to the local university library and look it up in the Bach Gesselschaft or something (: |
| 19:32.16 | findlay-w | if it's not there, I'll get it from BYU and scan it for you |
| 19:32.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay, we've established that wsdl is one of the purest forms of evil available on the mass market |
| 19:33.06 | Lone_Wanderer | but can someone explain to me what it's supposed to do? |
| 19:33.50 | Keighvin | Dynamic network service discovery and mapping, iirc. |
| 19:34.29 | Keighvin | Or maybe not so dynamic, but very SOAPish and all XML. |
| 19:34.31 | Lone_Wanderer | So it tells me where to send SOAP requests? |
| 19:34.38 | mrpull | Lone_Wanderer: if you aren't joking, the wikipedia page has a nice executive summary |
| 19:34.49 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 19:35.51 | findlay-w | atoponce: sorry, just now recovering from the novelty of all things. My intarnets have been b0rk for some time and will for some time to come |
| 19:40.29 | elg | hey loook, byu does have it |
| 19:40.40 | elg | findlay-w: are you going to be on campus already anytime soon? |
| 19:43.10 | findlay-w | today, but my internets don't work |
| 19:43.27 | findlay-w | and probably won't be working for the next two weeks |
| 19:43.33 | findlay-w | or two months |
| 19:44.26 | findlay-w | what's the call #? |
| 19:49.19 | elg | it's call number M 13 .B23 O73 1953 Quarto |
| 19:49.28 | elg | but it looks like it might just be an arrangement. hm |
| 19:51.25 | bonez39 | elg, have you cooked up any new midi music lately? |
| 19:52.04 | elg | electronic music? no |
| 19:52.10 | elg | but I like to do something every christmas |
| 19:52.15 | elg | just as soon as finals is out |
| 19:52.17 | elg | over |
| 19:54.23 | bonez39 | cool..I'll hit your site now and then, to see what you have |
| 19:55.09 | bonez39 | what's that called, when you post an article on a web site and then include a link, and/or icon, to allow printing a printer-friendly version of the article? How does one incorporate such a link and mechanism? |
| 19:55.41 | macnewbold | it depends how you're making it "printer friendly" |
| 19:55.59 | elg | i'll post it on my blog |
| 19:56.08 | macnewbold | sometimes you can just set up a style sheet for printing that fixes everything, and you don't need anything special, it just works |
| 19:56.19 | macnewbold | sometimes the link will download a pdf or something |
| 19:56.42 | macnewbold | or you'll have a special html file that looks better when printed |
| 19:56.46 | macnewbold | in the latter two cases, it's just a normal html link to a different file |
| 19:57.01 | bonez39 | macnewbold, for example, take any reputable trade journal...linuxjournal for example...you find an article..and it usually has a link, or icon...click it and the article is there, ready to print, without all the ads and graphics around it |
| 19:57.04 | macnewbold | the CSS way is by far preferred, and can usually do a good job |
| 19:57.23 | macnewbold | yes, I know exactly what you're talking about - but there are several mechanisms for accomplishing that |
| 19:57.28 | macnewbold | generally, it is just a link, |
| 19:57.47 | macnewbold | or with the CSS method, you can make the doc both look good on screen and be printer friendly at the same time |
| 19:57.48 | bonez39 | macnewbold, so you have two versions of the file...one that displays on the page, the other in the back, or served from from db...to print nicely |
| 19:57.54 | macnewbold | so you don't need anything special |
| 19:58.11 | macnewbold | you can generate the friendly page however you want, db or html or whatever |
| 19:58.23 | macnewbold | the icon just needs to be a regular link to it |
| 19:58.27 | macnewbold | then they print that one |
| 19:58.47 | elg | findlay-w: my bro's gonna pick it up |
| 19:59.14 | bonez39 | macnewbold, Ok, this is what I need..found a css page about setting this up with two style sheets.... |
| 19:59.41 | macnewbold | yes, you put in one style sheet for general use, |
| 19:59.52 | macnewbold | then add a special style sheet for media type "print" |
| 19:59.57 | macnewbold | and it gets used when you print it |
| 20:00.05 | macnewbold | firefox's print preview is really helpful for testing it out |
| 20:00.33 | macnewbold | you can use the print style sheet to remove certain areas from the page, change fonts, colors, remove background images, etc. |
| 20:00.34 | findlay-w | elg: ok |
| 20:00.39 | macnewbold | note that background images and colors don't usually print |
| 20:00.41 | elg | thanks anywho |
| 20:00.50 | macnewbold | so if they're significant, try adding borders or something |
| 20:03.54 | findlay-w | man, why does it always end up that I do web development? |
| 20:04.09 | bonez39 | macnewbold, do you suggest any particular content management package? I am lookinga t joomla right now....I used mambo a bit in the past... |
| 20:04.12 | findlay-w | stupid web |
| 20:05.14 | macnewbold | I haven't used either of them. There are a ton, and there's a place, I think called cms matrix, that has comparisons of features for all of them. Everyone wants something different. |
| 20:19.37 | scothoser | Argh! My house isn't going to have access to Utopia until 2008-2009! |
| 20:19.58 | levi | Poor scothoser. |
| 20:20.09 | macnewbold | yikes |
| 20:20.18 | macnewbold | my house won't likely have it until much longer than that |
| 20:20.24 | macnewbold | ~lart SLC for not joining Utopia |
| 20:20.48 | scothoser | There are times I hate living on the west side... We always get passed over for high bandwidth options. |
| 20:21.44 | findlay-w | elg: BYU does have a large music library |
| 20:22.05 | scothoser | ~lart richer areas in WVC |
| 20:24.16 | Lone_Wanderer | I need to get an IV with a mild sedative in it. |
| 20:24.39 | Lone_Wanderer | So that I don't stress out at work so much. |
| 20:25.53 | macnewbold | don't they have a patch for that? |
| 20:26.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe. |
| 20:26.54 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm beginning to think that there is no company on earth that really has it together, software development wise. |
| 20:27.57 | macnewbold | well, there's at least one... |
| 20:28.09 | macnewbold | if I do say so myself |
| 20:31.16 | levi | No one really has it together yet, software development wise, anywhere. It's incredibly complicated and a fairly new thing, to boot. |
| 20:32.16 | levi | Plus the mindspace tends to balkanize around 'religious' issues. |
| 20:34.04 | Lone_Wanderer | I was thinking of that when I said it Mac ;) |
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| 20:36.53 | redbeard1 | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 20:41.15 | elg | hehe. this is ironic |
| 20:41.23 | elg | "In this article (click below - subscribers only) LWN looks at some of these tactics and asks whether we really want to split up our community at this time." |
| 20:44.17 | elg | woohoo http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061127112844.htm |
| 20:45.21 | graphyx | That's how I sit when I work.. |
| 20:45.23 | graphyx | about 135. |
| 20:46.16 | goozbach | and RHN users around? |
| 20:47.09 | graphyx | does emcnabb count? |
| 21:02.35 | emcnabb | goozbach: what's up? |
| 21:04.42 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 21:08.40 | goozbach | emcnabb: two things, a new "click here to aggree to the terms" page |
| 21:08.49 | goozbach | I was wondering what changed |
| 21:09.04 | goozbach | and the AS 4 channel seems to be broken |
| 21:09.15 | goozbach | missing "kernel-ib" package metadata |
| 21:09.25 | goozbach | Just wanted to see if it was a local problem |
| 21:09.55 | goozbach | manually fixing the second led me to discover the first |
| 21:10.57 | goozbach | it was just the VERY FIRST TIME that up2date -u failed with a server that points only to RHN |
| 21:11.03 | goozbach | for me anyhow |
| 21:11.25 | goozbach | I've come to expect broken dependancy trees when I'm using a hodgepoge of repos |
| 21:11.36 | goozbach | not using stock RHN |
| 21:14.58 | emcnabb | goozbach: not sure about the license agreement |
| 21:15.46 | goozbach | I didn't see anything different, and I read it all |
| 21:15.55 | goozbach | nothing stood out, |
| 21:16.05 | goozbach | perhaps it was just a new look |
| 21:16.16 | elg | perhaps emcnabb will own your firstborn |
| 21:16.18 | emcnabb | hum, about the second thing |
| 21:16.19 | goozbach | and that's why it struck as "new" |
| 21:16.35 | graphyx | perhaps there was a timestamp update on it. |
| 21:16.41 | emcnabb | I think kernel-ib was renamed recently |
| 21:16.53 | emcnabb | maybe to openib? |
| 21:17.03 | goozbach | openib is the src.rpm |
| 21:17.11 | goozbach | it creates kernel-ib and another package |
| 21:18.30 | emcnabb | http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_58_8726.shtm |
| 21:18.32 | emcnabb | ? |
| 21:20.27 | goozbach | that makes sense |
| 21:20.30 | goozbach | thank you emcnabb |
| 21:20.35 | emcnabb | goozbach: np |
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| 21:36.14 | KickerDog | LOL |
| 21:36.16 | KickerDog | - When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunky dunk." |
| 21:38.35 | KickerDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.34 | ^Migs^ | my car must have special melting powers, because it's the only one in the parking lot without snow on it |
| 21:46.54 | goozbach | ^Migs^: are you growing pot in your car? |
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| 21:54.40 | SB1-Work | That would explain a bit if so |
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| 21:58.36 | graphyx | ^Migs^: You must have a HOT car. |
| 22:07.59 | emcnabb | http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/hula-general/2006-November/002084.html |
| 22:11.25 | jsmith | emcnabb: Interesting... |
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| 22:46.02 | mrpull | hula looked promising. were there a lot of contributors outside of Novell? |
| 22:47.08 | mrpull | hrrmmm... looking at the site, there are still netmail features that haven't been released into the hula project (http://www.hula-project.org/Scrub_List) |
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| 22:55.31 | mheath[laptop] | Someone with a big buffer want to /lastlog mheath for me? |
| 22:56.51 | *** part/#utah ^Migs^ (i=Migs@205.122.50.21) |
| 22:58.46 | macnewbold | mheath[laptop]: I'm not sure my client has a /lastlog command, but what is it you wanted to know? I've got a big buffer that logs to disk |
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| 22:59.08 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold, someone said my name while I was off at MEPS; just wondering who it was. |
| 23:00.29 | macnewbold | yesterday nick125 poked you, Supaplex tasered you, emcnabb and ibot stabbed you |
| 23:00.29 | mheath[laptop] | ah. |
| 23:00.37 | macnewbold | emcnabb said elg: you've forgotten that ^Migs^ is the 3rd most logical person on #utah, after mheath and sargun |
| 23:00.46 | macnewbold | and that was it |
| 23:00.50 | mheath[laptop] | 24 hours to go! Bah. This is driving me insane |
| 23:00.58 | macnewbold | I think you were online for the emcnabb comment though |
| 23:01.02 | macnewbold | 24 hrs to what? |
| 23:01.37 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold, till I find ou if I'm going back into the Navy |
| 23:01.56 | mrpull | back? |
| 23:02.01 | mheath[laptop] | well, into the Navy |
| 23:02.03 | mheath[laptop] | I worded that wrong |
| 23:02.09 | mheath[laptop] | back into the Military, into the Navy* |
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| 23:03.26 | mheath[laptop] | I was at MEPS this morning. MEPS sent me to a consultant visit, an orthopedic doctor in the St. Marks hospital complex (guy kind of scared me). His results were dropped off at MEPS tonight |
| 23:03.59 | mheath[laptop] | Tomorrow, a MEPS doctor reviews those results as well as their own notes of my physical this morning. They make a recommendation to BuMed. BuMed makes the final call on if I should go back in or not. |
| 23:04.23 | mheath[laptop] | BTW: Your tax dollars at work! |
| 23:04.30 | mrpull | do they do a psychological eval? |
| 23:04.47 | mheath[laptop] | The United States government got charged today for an x-ray of my knee |
| 23:04.51 | SB1-Work | lol |
| 23:04.58 | mheath[laptop] | When the doctor had a full report of an MRI infront of him |
| 23:04.58 | SB1-Work | lol @ mrpull that is |
| 23:05.48 | mheath[laptop] | mrpull: Not an evaluation. |
| 23:06.03 | mheath[laptop] | Any kind of mental illness, counseling, etc. disqualifies you, though. |
| 23:07.27 | mheath[laptop] | GAH |
| 23:07.40 | mheath[laptop] | Powder Mountain charges $750 for an adult season pass? |
| 23:07.44 | mheath[laptop] | AHhhhhh |
| 23:08.04 | mheath[laptop] | The ortho said I was good to go, but recommended I work on developing my quad muscles some more |
| 23:08.23 | mheath[laptop] | So I think "Hey, maybe I'll get a skii pass. I love skiing, and thats really good for quad muscle development." |
| 23:08.36 | mheath[laptop] | $750? AHHHHHHH. |
| 23:10.02 | mheath[laptop] | mrpull: Don't worry. I assure you that, no matter how loopy and annoying I am on here, I am a very mentally sound individual |
| 23:10.26 | mrpull | joining the navy sounds crazy to me! |
| 23:13.30 | levi | mheath[laptop]: So, are you going to the U or not? |
| 23:20.29 | SB1-Work | TimRiker! PURL IS EMPTY! |
| 23:20.39 | SB1-Work | TimRiker, ~roulette over and over just yields 'click'... |
| 23:20.54 | SB1-Work | I think you need to reload it |
| 23:21.15 | SB1-Work | There we go |
| 23:21.34 | SB1-Work | Never mind, it fixed itself |
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| 23:21.42 | SB1-Work | Or you truly are just that amazing, take your pick |
| 23:23.31 | mheath[laptop] | levi: I'll answer that tomorrow |
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