| 00:03.05 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]: dad stole the meal you made? |
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| 00:38.25 | Sargun | Pok. |
| 00:38.35 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], Your back from the hotspot? |
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| 01:20.45 | mheath[laptop] | Hmm. Is there any open source file format that is particulary adept at storing forms? (to print) |
| 01:21.14 | mheath[laptop] | Like this form: http://resources.seacadets.org/forms/forms_admin/nscadm001.pdf |
| 01:21.30 | mheath[laptop] | They just did theres in Word |
| 01:21.34 | mheath[laptop] | Using tables |
| 01:21.46 | mheath[laptop] | and I'm having a lot of problem laying out forms like those in Open Office |
| 01:22.06 | mheath[laptop] | Openoffice seems to get easily confused about what cells are on the same row, etc. |
| 01:22.22 | mheath[laptop] | It told me two simple, empty cells right next to each other were too complex to merge |
| 01:22.39 | mheath[laptop] | And I somehow made it so splitting a sell into 2 would create 10 new cells. I don't know what I did...But I'm looking for a better format. |
| 01:28.21 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]: how was Thanksgiving? |
| 01:28.28 | emcnabb | dinner good? |
| 01:31.21 | graphyx | yeah. |
| 01:31.23 | graphyx | Good food. |
| 01:31.51 | graphyx | and I have an especially tasty blind sql injection on this server I am pen testing. |
| 01:32.02 | graphyx | yummy.. full username/passwords for the application! |
| 01:32.08 | graphyx | too bad there wasn't any credit card data.. |
| 01:32.36 | mheath[laptop] | No suggestions on a form layout program? |
| 01:33.36 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]: did your turkey turn out well? |
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| 02:15.31 | goozbach | turkey jerkey++ |
| 02:15.37 | goozbach | ~seen elg |
| 02:16.07 | ibot | elg <n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 4h 7m 26s ago, saying: 'try chinese. worked on the Christmas Story'. |
| 02:17.32 | graphyx | ibot your time is off... |
| 02:17.39 | ibot | okay, graphyx |
| 02:17.40 | graphyx | (4:07:54 PM) elg: try chinese. worked on the Christmas Story |
| 02:17.55 | graphyx | ~onjoin timriker Master, check my time. |
| 02:17.55 | ibot | ok, graphyx |
| 02:25.40 | goozbach | ibot: your time? |
| 02:25.46 | ibot | methinks your time is off... |
| 02:26.15 | graphyx | ~time |
| 02:26.16 | ibot | time is probably 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2006.11.24 2:26:16 GMT |
| 02:26.27 | goozbach | ahh |
| 02:26.32 | goozbach | he's running gmt |
| 02:26.42 | graphyx | right. |
| 02:27.01 | graphyx | But how is 16:14 today 4h 7m 26s ago? |
| 02:34.14 | goozbach | I'm betting that the seen time-math may not be aware of that |
| 02:34.24 | graphyx | could be. |
| 02:34.46 | graphyx | nvm.. |
| 02:34.50 | graphyx | I'm off myself. |
| 02:34.59 | graphyx | ~onjoin -timriker |
| 02:34.59 | ibot | ok, graphyx |
| 02:35.06 | graphyx | It is fine. |
| 02:35.12 | graphyx | I read it as 4 days |
| 02:35.15 | graphyx | not 4 hours |
| 02:35.25 | goozbach | I see it off by an hour |
| 02:35.46 | graphyx | No.. |
| 02:35.51 | graphyx | I quoted the time CDT |
| 02:35.53 | graphyx | not MST |
| 02:36.03 | graphyx | since I am CST currently. |
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| 06:01.05 | Sargun | Anyone wanna listen to my teenage rants? |
| 06:10.07 | nick125 | no |
| 06:10.59 | Sargun | shutup. |
| 06:11.32 | Tene | dance like an onion. |
| 06:12.39 | Sargun | How? |
| 06:13.32 | mheath[laptop] | like an onion. |
| 06:13.55 | mheath[laptop] | I want to learn middle english. =P That would be awesome. |
| 06:14.22 | mheath[laptop] | Actually very similar to modern English. Just grammatically a bit bizzare, and pronounciation is completely different. |
| 06:17.06 | mheath[laptop] | Holy crap. Theres an ISO code for old english? Haha. |
| 06:17.13 | mheath[laptop] | ISO 63-2 - enm |
| 06:17.21 | mheath[laptop] | erm, middle english* |
| 06:18.04 | mheath[laptop] | 639-2 - enm * |
| 06:23.42 | Tene | lojban! |
| 06:48.23 | Sargun | Thanks Dan! |
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| 08:03.14 | Sargun | The Wii controllers should have reinforced carbon fiber |
| 08:03.19 | Sargun | straps :-P |
| 08:03.53 | nick125 | lol |
| 08:03.58 | nick125 | they should |
| 08:05.06 | nick125 | but, that would add cost |
| 08:05.14 | nick125 | more |
| 08:05.56 | nick125 | Sargun: see notice |
| 08:06.32 | Sargun | I didn't get it |
| 08:06.42 | Sargun | neverminf |
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| 14:03.52 | emcnabb | good morning all |
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| 16:01.56 | mheath[laptop] | man, christmas shopping for little kids is a chore |
| 16:02.11 | mheath[laptop] | so many weird presents compared to even when I was a kid, and everything is so expensive |
| 16:02.44 | emcnabb | mheath[laptop]: you never told us how dinner turned out |
| 16:05.13 | maquis | emcnabb: sup? |
| 16:05.29 | emcnabb | not much - how's black friday at Amazon? |
| 16:05.48 | maquis | hasn't been too bad yet |
| 16:05.56 | maquis | better than wednesday |
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| 16:31.20 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah | Read http://plug.org/node/28 | Deck the Halls with paintball pellets. Fa la la la la, la la la la. Creme brulee with turkey giblets. Fa la la la laa, la laa la laaa |
| 16:33.39 | mheath[laptop] | emcnabb, you were quite obviously here when I said I HAD no dinner yesterday. But, please! Bring it up over and over again! It's obviously a subject I want to discuss! |
| 16:36.25 | mheath[laptop] | What would be a good program for laying out a table-based form (to print)? |
| 16:42.58 | elg | html? |
| 16:46.38 | graphyx | elg: technically html wouldn't be a program. I think you mean 1st note, or frontpage. |
| 16:47.10 | jnielsen | notepad + HTML |
| 16:47.31 | elg | well I was just curious if html was the intended format, or exactly what he's thinking about |
| 16:47.40 | graphyx | I understand. |
| 16:47.50 | elg | or does he want pdf or postscript |
| 16:48.01 | elg | does he want a word processor or a spreadsheet |
| 16:48.06 | elg | or just a text editor |
| 16:48.12 | elg | he wasn't very specific |
| 16:48.16 | graphyx | indeed. |
| 16:48.50 | elg | lacking follow up too. maybe eating leftover turkey |
| 16:49.02 | elg | my turkey is still frozen in the center |
| 16:49.06 | elg | stupid bird |
| 16:49.11 | graphyx | or creme brulee with turkey giblets. |
| 16:49.23 | graphyx | didn't you get your wife to cook it? |
| 16:49.41 | elg | we got invited somewhere else so decided to cook it today |
| 16:49.55 | elg | plus we were a day late taking it out of the freezer. but we thought it would be thawed today for sure |
| 16:50.15 | graphyx | sorry. |
| 16:50.25 | elg | hopefully it will thaw in the brine |
| 16:50.32 | elg | or at least in the oven. ;) |
| 16:52.05 | mheath[laptop] | elg, No I'm talking talking about the end format |
| 16:52.14 | mheath[laptop] | I'm talking about a program+format to design in |
| 16:52.30 | elg | but you haven't said what the end format is |
| 16:52.38 | mheath[laptop] | I'm working on creating some forms for the USNSCC unit I participate in. |
| 16:52.39 | elg | other than it's printed |
| 16:53.02 | mheath[laptop] | Similar to http://resources.seacadets.org/forms/forms_admin/nscadm001.pdf |
| 16:53.10 | mheath[laptop] | They used Word and tables to design that |
| 16:53.27 | mheath[laptop] | the thing is, OpenOffice.org really sucks at complex table layouts....It gets really confused really fast |
| 16:54.02 | elg | so why not a spreadsheet? |
| 16:54.54 | mheath[laptop] | Hmm, Good idea. Can you get OpenOffice.org Calc to display page ends? |
| 17:00.37 | elg | display who? |
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| 19:12.13 | maquis | ~lart Newsome |
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| 20:16.08 | mheath[laptop] | Hmm. OpenOffice.org Writer seems to have problems working with complex tables imported from Microsoft Word format |
| 20:16.42 | mheath[laptop] | It will, for example, get confused about which cells are on a row together: you hit tab and it will create a new cell below your current one, but not replicate any of the other cells on the row. |
| 20:45.31 | maquis | *grumble* |
| 21:15.25 | Tene | So, I need to find things to do in NYC until Tuesday. |
| 21:16.15 | maquis | Tene: i'm sorry... well... actually i'm not... |
| 21:16.20 | maquis | but i can try to sound sorry |
| 21:16.50 | Tene | I appreciate the effort! |
| 21:18.23 | Tene | I came out here to visit my sister for thanksgiving, and when I planned the trip, staying that long seemed like a good idea. |
| 21:19.50 | Tene | I now remember that I'm not really interested in travel in general and don't really have anything to do, and it would be awkward to sit around her apartment for four days |
| 21:19.53 | maquis | hmmm... sometimes emails come out really wrong... |
| 21:20.13 | maquis | "is there anything we can do to kill the blocker? thanks and warm regards" |
| 21:20.27 | Tene | heh |
| 21:20.58 | maquis | there's just something really funny about talking about killing something and immediately talking about "warm regards" |
| 21:27.22 | levi_home | Yay, I've figured Scala out enough to make progress on my genetic algorithm assignment. |
| 21:27.28 | nick125 | I'm finally online with my new ISP :) |
| 21:28.01 | nick125 | 40ms first hop, 1309/725kbps |
| 21:28.22 | levi_home | Good for you. |
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| 21:47.22 | bonez41 | if I have a directory in its own partition, and want to move it instead to branch off / root.... would I use cp /usr / and then change my /etc/fstab? would that get the job done, freeing up the now emptied partition? |
| 21:48.42 | bonez41 | I assume that first I need to switch run level to 2..., and then umount /usr..and them move it? |
| 21:49.54 | bonez41 | xterm |
| 22:00.30 | bonez41 | boo |
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| 22:05.19 | tristanbob_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.28 | mheath[laptop] | I agree. |
| 22:08.32 | mheath[laptop] | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.12 | mheath[laptop] | bonez41, no |
| 22:09.18 | mheath[laptop] | umount /usr |
| 22:09.37 | mheath[laptop] | mkdir /mnt/tempusr |
| 22:09.43 | mheath[laptop] | mount /dev/hdawhatever /mnt/tempusr |
| 22:10.02 | mheath[laptop] | cp -R /mnt/tempusr* /usr |
| 22:10.03 | mheath[laptop] | erm |
| 22:10.08 | mheath[laptop] | cp -R /mnt/tempusr/* /usr |
| 22:10.20 | Tene | erm |
| 22:10.57 | mheath[laptop] | run level 2 might not do the trick |
| 22:11.14 | mheath[laptop] | you'll probably need to start with init=/bin/bas |
| 22:11.17 | mheath[laptop] | you'll probably need to start with init=/bin/bash |
| 22:11.38 | mheath[laptop] | And that might not even work, because on some systems /bin/bash is a symlink to /usr/bin/bash |
| 22:11.53 | mheath[laptop] | Though, after you have bash running, you should be theoretically OK. |
| 22:12.02 | bonez41 | ah....so I should load knoppix from cd and do it that way instead? |
| 22:12.14 | bonez41 | would that a be a better way to attempt it? |
| 22:12.39 | mheath[laptop] | bonez41, yes. |
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| 23:34.39 | herlo | testing |
| 23:35.08 | emcnabb | test successful |
| 23:35.40 | herlo | tx |
| 23:53.14 | emcnabb | switching servers stinks |
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