| 00:00.43 | redbeard2 | i'm trying to set up a wireless bridge with mine at home. the landlord has the same model and has already installed dd-wrt on his |
| 00:00.54 | graphyx | it's redbeard1's evil twin. |
| 00:01.15 | redbeard2 | aye |
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| 00:03.26 | redbeard2 | unfortunately, the landlord doesn't seem to be incredibly familiar with all this |
| 00:04.29 | elg | mrpull: thanks, but I just bought a $15 usb joystick |
| 00:04.51 | elg | i just need to do the physical hookup now. I'm still not quite sure how to best translate the motion to rotating a pot |
| 00:05.18 | mrpull | elg: that is probably a better route anyway |
| 00:06.29 | mrpull | redbeard2: I had a wrt54g (predates the L) in wireless bridge mode several months back. |
| 00:06.48 | mrpull | in the distro I had on it, it was as simple as providing the ESSID and WEP key |
| 00:06.58 | mrpull | in the admin gui |
| 00:07.05 | redbeard2 | mrpull: which distro did you have? |
| 00:07.17 | mrpull | I was using the controversial one which name I can not remember |
| 00:07.48 | mrpull | they charged for it despite being GPL and were slow to release source |
| 00:07.54 | mrpull | shamadi or something like that |
| 00:07.55 | redbeard2 | ah, that one |
| 00:08.10 | redbeard2 | i think i saw something about it |
| 00:08.16 | mrpull | Sveasoft |
| 00:08.19 | mrpull | that is it |
| 00:08.41 | mrpull | surprisingly (or maybe not) wikipedia has a nice page on it |
| 00:08.50 | mrpull | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54gl |
| 00:09.26 | tensai | I have the sveasoft samadhi firmware if anybody wants it, but I don't recommend it |
| 00:09.27 | nick125 | the L series has linux |
| 00:09.40 | nick125 | the Non-L <5 is linux as well and can be hacked |
| 00:09.41 | redbeard2 | tensai: why don't you recommend it? |
| 00:09.47 | elg | redbeard2: http://woz.gs/wifi/openwrtbridge.html might help |
| 00:09.53 | elg | I like openwrt for my wireless routers |
| 00:09.59 | elg | though I've never set up a bridge |
| 00:10.05 | elg | a wireless bridge that is |
| 00:10.20 | tensai | redbeard2: I prefer openwrt as well. besides that samadhi is just plain old. |
| 00:10.23 | mrpull | the last one I upgraded got HyperWRT |
| 00:11.07 | tensai | the v5 routers are complete junk. we have all sorts of issues with the ones we sold. |
| 00:11.23 | tensai | we recommend the wrg54gl to everybody, even non-hackers |
| 00:12.06 | elg | you are talking about bridging the wireless connection to a lan, right? not doing a repeater setup? |
| 00:13.07 | elg | hmm, maybe I do have mine setup as a bridge |
| 00:13.15 | elg | yeah, I do. a bridge with its own IP address |
| 00:13.17 | mrpull | i've never done the repeater stuff (WDS ? ), just a bridging |
| 00:13.29 | elg | I've never succeeded with repeaters, and I've tried twice |
| 00:13.47 | redbeard2 | i'm trying for a repeater thing, with WDS |
| 00:13.55 | elg | are they the same brand? |
| 00:14.01 | tensai | I set up mine in client mode once and it was quite unstable |
| 00:14.24 | elg | if they're not the same brand, fuhgetaboutit |
| 00:14.37 | graphyx | rrawwwr. |
| 00:14.48 | graphyx | I like it rawwrre. |
| 00:14.51 | graphyx | raw? |
| 00:14.57 | elg | unless one has some sort of promise that it will work with the other one in the docs or on the website |
| 00:15.30 | redbeard2 | elg: same model, even |
| 00:15.38 | elg | oh look, you said same model. well then it should work eh |
| 00:16.55 | elg | redbeard2: so basically you don't want to run a wire |
| 00:17.00 | elg | from upstairs to down |
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| 00:17.22 | elg | ? |
| 00:18.39 | redbeard2 | elg: well, the landlord doesn't want to run a wire |
| 00:19.19 | elg | but you want to join forces and share internet I take it? |
| 00:20.05 | elg | you want this instead then: http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration#head-aba1228974499bb5dcaffdb2c3d45b07bcab2013 |
| 00:20.59 | redbeard2 | looking |
| 00:21.26 | elg | if you can get wds working, and you should be able to, you're set |
| 00:21.40 | elg | if not, it's a wire or another AP |
| 00:22.11 | elg | one AP can't serve the upstairs and downstairs? |
| 00:22.49 | redbeard2 | i have a few boxen that aren't going to be able to go wireless anytime soon |
| 00:25.39 | nick125 | anyone here know of a simple yet advanced video editing program for linux that uses gtk2 and can do ieee1394? |
| 00:27.03 | com4 | i used openwrt and i like dd-wrt a lot better |
| 00:27.14 | com4 | i use dd-wrt to bridge to another dd-wrt and it works like a champ |
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| 00:28.05 | nick125 | I liked the simplicity of kino decently, but, its not as featureful as I would like |
| 00:28.09 | nick125 | w/i3 |
| 00:28.12 | nick125 | er |
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| 00:39.01 | graphyx | herlo: You guys still doing games? |
| 00:39.10 | herlo | graphyx: yep |
| 00:39.11 | graphyx | I may have to show up when I come up there for Christmas. |
| 00:39.16 | herlo | when? |
| 00:39.30 | graphyx | dec 22nd till 4th jan |
| 00:39.32 | graphyx | roughly. |
| 00:39.44 | herlo | yeah, I think we'll be doing one night at least... |
| 00:40.07 | herlo | probably only the 2nd of Jan though... |
| 00:40.14 | herlo | but maybe the 26th will work |
| 00:44.45 | graphyx | Ok. |
| 00:44.49 | graphyx | 26 tuesday? |
| 00:44.52 | graphyx | That may work. |
| 00:46.47 | herlo | graphyx: depends on whether people are working that day or not. I won't be... |
| 00:47.02 | herlo | or if I do, they'll be half days |
| 00:48.04 | graphyx | I see. |
| 00:48.07 | graphyx | I got your number. |
| 00:48.22 | graphyx | If I can convince my wife to let me break away we might have some fun. |
| 00:48.37 | graphyx | BTW, that little kid I brought with me last time is now a crawling starting to talk kid. |
| 00:48.39 | graphyx | amazingly enough. |
| 00:49.04 | tristanbob | is the utah planet not updating? I wrote a blog about 2 hours ago |
| 00:50.30 | graphyx | IS there a way to pull out only specific files from a tar? |
| 00:50.35 | graphyx | or a specific directory? |
| 00:51.24 | levi | tristanbob: Was that the one replying to the comments? |
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| 00:51.40 | tristanbob | levi - a second post replying to comments :) |
| 00:52.41 | levi | tristanbob: The 'Why do we believe in Open Source Software?' one? |
| 00:53.06 | tristanbob | levi: yah - I guess my cache is just old? refresh doesn't work |
| 00:53.55 | levi | I got it on my feed for the planet. |
| 00:57.36 | tristanbob | never mind I think I know the problem - The date is derived from the time you create the post, not from when you finish it and submit it |
| 00:57.40 | tristanbob | levi: thanks for looking! |
| 00:57.57 | levi | My take: Free Software is for people who care about RMS's ideal for software freedom. Evangelizing that to random people isn't going to get you very far, and certainly isn't going to help them deal with the lack of Flash or whatever. Most people simply don't care. Some people, such as those who make money writing and selling software, think it's a pretty rotten idea. |
| 00:58.53 | levi | I should say some of those who make money writing and selling software, since not all of them think Free Software is a rotten idea. |
| 01:00.23 | levi | I don't see why anyone would complain about Open Source, but it doesn't have RMS's idea of software freedom necessarily built into it. |
| 01:02.09 | findlay | I don't. I also don't enjoy using proprietary software. I want a world where I don't have to. I've largely achieved that world already |
| 01:02.36 | levi | findlay: That's fine, but most people aren't very interested in that world. |
| 01:03.05 | findlay | levi: its not the people that aren't interested that I worry about. It's the people who are |
| 01:03.18 | levi | findlay: Elaborate? |
| 01:03.23 | findlay | Microsoft |
| 01:03.28 | findlay | etc. |
| 01:03.58 | findlay | I don't want them to destroy the software Renissance for their own greedy gain |
| 01:04.33 | levi | Hah. |
| 01:05.25 | levi | Linux isn't a Renaissance, and Microsoft couldn't destroy it if they wanted to. |
| 01:05.33 | findlay | why not? |
| 01:05.52 | findlay | there's more to software than a plain old kernel anyway |
| 01:06.02 | levi | Because they can't control what people do in their free time. |
| 01:06.17 | findlay | maybe they can make it illegal |
| 01:06.26 | levi | Nope. |
| 01:06.44 | findlay | well, they'll sure try |
| 01:06.50 | levi | I doubt it. |
| 01:06.55 | findlay | why? |
| 01:07.10 | levi | They may attack the products of some companies, but what's that to you? |
| 01:07.25 | findlay | doesn't sound very convincing |
| 01:07.39 | findlay | maybe I've read too much FUD for one day |
| 01:07.51 | atoponce | where is the appropriate place to put user-built perl modules on a linux system? |
| 01:07.58 | levi | findlay: I think so. |
| 01:08.28 | atoponce | i know i can do it in the same dir as the perl script, but is there a universal directory? |
| 01:09.06 | findlay | atoponce: you should probably make sure it adheres to common practices so you can install it in the usual way |
| 01:09.13 | Tene | atoponce: perl -e 'print @INC' oslt |
| 01:09.30 | findlay | oslt -> or salt? |
| 01:09.50 | findlay | guess you need salt |
| 01:11.01 | atoponce | Tene: thx |
| 01:11.18 | findlay | ~thx |
| 01:11.26 | ibot | np |
| 01:12.24 | findlay | ibot: thx is also eeeerrruuusssshhhwwwaaaaaAAAAAAAAA!!!!11 |
| 01:12.26 | ibot | okay, findlay |
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| 01:43.21 | graphyx | why does ftp have to differential between binary and normal? |
| 01:44.29 | graphyx | does it speed it up to do ascii for only using 7 out of 8 bits? |
| 01:44.37 | graphyx | so you get a 12% speed increace? |
| 01:44.39 | graphyx | or what? |
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| 02:29.47 | graphyx | Ok how do I do a vim match and delete the line it is on command? |
| 02:29.48 | graphyx | findlay? |
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| 02:38.01 | epp | i have something i want to accomplish. But i dont know where to start. |
| 02:38.17 | epp | anyone up for hel;ping me? |
| 02:38.32 | epp | s/;p/p |
| 02:38.35 | epp | eh |
| 02:39.34 | mrpull- | epp: start by clearly stating the problem :) |
| 02:44.03 | epp | ok, well. I want to setup a proxy. So when i type wget "whatever" i can type "-http-proxy gh0st:66" and it will go through proxy |
| 02:45.21 | mrpull- | what do you hope to gain from using the proxy? |
| 02:46.27 | epp | anoniminity |
| 02:47.06 | mrpull- | epp: where will you be running the proxy? |
| 02:47.13 | epp | on my shell |
| 02:47.31 | mrpull- | who is your shell account with? |
| 02:47.40 | epp | geekshells |
| 02:47.40 | mrpull- | do they offer a proxy? |
| 02:48.09 | epp | doubtfuil |
| 02:48.24 | graphyx | Are you looking for a cli proxy? |
| 02:48.25 | epp | eh nevermind. its pointless |
| 02:48.30 | mrpull- | i've used xmission's proxy by using ssh + port forwarding |
| 02:48.36 | graphyx | That is what one Iuse. |
| 02:48.50 | epp | how do i set that up? |
| 02:49.07 | graphyx | turn on port forwarding on the server. |
| 02:49.21 | epp | im just going to do it from my house. |
| 02:49.22 | graphyx | you can either setup putty to store the opinions all the time. |
| 02:49.27 | epp | and i can port forward |
| 02:49.32 | graphyx | Or just use ssh to specify the ports that you need. |
| 02:49.46 | graphyx | There are tons of write ups on how to do this. |
| 02:49.53 | graphyx | google a little and I am sure you will find something about it. |
| 02:49.54 | epp | well. I want to be able to get on youtube at school |
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| 02:50.27 | graphyx | what prevents you from getting there? |
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| 02:50.31 | graphyx | firewall/proxy at school? |
| 02:50.35 | epp | filter/firewall |
| 02:50.41 | epp | yes |
| 02:50.59 | graphyx | do you have to use the proxy or is the standard port closed? |
| 02:51.13 | graphyx | ie if you telnet youtube.com 80, does it work? |
| 02:51.22 | epp | yeah 80 is open |
| 02:51.29 | epp | its what everything connects on |
| 02:51.30 | graphyx | Then you aren't forced through the proxy. |
| 02:51.38 | graphyx | 80 to youtube? |
| 02:51.43 | epp | well i know im forced through a proxy |
| 02:51.44 | graphyx | which is the question I asked. |
| 02:51.53 | graphyx | but is the forcing from the browser or the network? |
| 02:52.05 | graphyx | You could just get a live cd, boot from cd and browse it that way. |
| 02:52.07 | graphyx | reboot when done. |
| 02:52.09 | epp | network |
| 02:52.12 | graphyx | Eject cd and walk away. |
| 02:52.14 | levi_home | If you can't figure this out yourself, you probably shouldn't be trying to evade the filtering. |
| 02:52.28 | mrpull- | epp: it isn't worth the pain of getting caught |
| 02:52.30 | levi_home | I imagine it's there for a reason. |
| 02:52.30 | epp | i have setup a web based proxy that works. |
| 02:52.33 | mrpull- | do you browsing at home |
| 02:52.40 | graphyx | vnc your home system. |
| 02:52.42 | mrpull- | s/you/your/ |
| 02:53.11 | epp | well i have a gnarly video of me parkouring and shattering my heel i want to show peeps |
| 02:53.39 | mrpull- | load it up on your laptop or ipod or whatever and show them there |
| 02:53.51 | mrpull- | if it isn't your network, you shouldn't tinker with it |
| 02:54.09 | epp | gah, i dont want to take my laptop to school. |
| 02:54.29 | mrpull- | and your school doesn't want your video on their network :) |
| 02:54.31 | epp | well i just want to be able to connect to "myip":66 and have it go to youtube |
| 02:54.41 | epp | myhomeip* |
| 02:55.51 | epp | ah, nevermind. i got it |
| 02:58.06 | epp | will someone try this? 67.182.211.240:666 |
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| 03:14.04 | graphyx | I love for i in `` shell stuff. |
| 03:14.12 | graphyx | It just makes me want to hug the person who taught me it |
| 03:14.23 | graphyx | the current usage of this. |
| 03:14.25 | graphyx | for i in `cat ../targets `; do nmap -P0 -p 1-65535 -sTU -A $i > U$i & done |
| 03:14.58 | graphyx | I just loaded my system up with 58 simultaneous nmap port scans. |
| 03:16.17 | emcnabb | ~hug the person that taugh graphyx for i in `` shell stuff |
| 03:16.23 | ibot | ACTION hugs the person that taugh graphyx for i in `` shell stuff tightly until the person that taugh graphyx for i in `` shell stuff turns slightly blue |
| 03:17.24 | graphyx | that works. |
| 03:17.27 | graphyx | thanks evan. |
| 03:17.37 | graphyx | It might have been you that taught me that. |
| 03:18.27 | emcnabb | I much prefer the `` syntax over $() |
| 03:18.38 | graphyx | Whats $()? |
| 03:18.43 | emcnabb | the same thing |
| 03:18.44 | graphyx | $(do stuff)? |
| 03:18.49 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 03:18.51 | graphyx | oh. |
| 03:18.54 | graphyx | didn't know about that one. |
| 03:18.59 | graphyx | I think I prefer the `` myself. |
| 03:20.09 | emcnabb | graphyx: so what do you do at work every day? I know you're a "security" guy, but what does that boil down to? |
| 03:21.00 | emcnabb | and if you can't talk about it, that's fine :-) |
| 03:21.05 | graphyx | I can talk about it. |
| 03:21.11 | graphyx | I am not govt. |
| 03:21.15 | graphyx | I am part of the Threat team. |
| 03:21.28 | graphyx | We are supposed to identify and help aliviate any threat to the companies business. |
| 03:21.36 | graphyx | but in practice we just focus on network threats. |
| 03:21.58 | emcnabb | interesting |
| 03:22.15 | emcnabb | some companies are pretty tight lipped though |
| 03:22.44 | graphyx | We plan, implement and maintain the IPS and IDS devices on the network. |
| 03:23.04 | graphyx | And manage the ArcSight ESM product we have. |
| 03:23.17 | graphyx | To help identify network threats. |
| 03:23.50 | emcnabb | do you guys use snort any? |
| 03:24.01 | graphyx | I specifically am one of the main security analysts at work, I help to plan out the additional feeds which we are going to being into the manager and have helped design the layout for the IDS/IPS for the network. |
| 03:24.13 | graphyx | and am currently helping to set out the over all network plan for the future. |
| 03:24.27 | graphyx | We don't use snort specifically, but do use sourcefire. (Commercial beefed up snort) |
| 03:24.36 | graphyx | And Intrushield (Mcafee's IPS) |
| 03:24.56 | graphyx | And we also have some Symantec IPS (we don't manage or monitor those though) |
| 03:25.11 | graphyx | 2 different types of IPS is good enough for me. |
| 03:25.14 | emcnabb | very cool |
| 03:25.25 | graphyx | That answer your question? |
| 03:25.45 | emcnabb | yup |
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| 06:43.37 | findlay | graphyx: I don't understand the question |
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| 07:47.51 | findlay | so I went into compusa today, well, yesterday, to get an SD card and selected an innocent looking 1 Gb sandisk model that didn't have any price listed |
| 07:48.34 | findlay | I took it up to the register and discovered it's going rate of sale was *sixty* dollars! |
| 07:48.56 | findlay | I can buy an equivalent one from newegg for $15 |
| 07:49.17 | findlay | including shipping |
| 07:49.56 | nick125 | haha |
| 07:50.11 | nick125 | compusa sells everything at 50x the cost of elsewhere |
| 07:50.32 | findlay | 20 inch usb cables for $20 |
| 08:28.48 | Sargun | god ~ # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 08:28.48 | Sargun | -su: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy |
| 08:28.48 | Sargun | god ~ # fuser -v /dev/dsp |
| 08:28.50 | Sargun | any ideas? |
| 08:44.38 | goozbach | mrpull-: RC collins?! |
| 08:44.52 | goozbach | that's AWESOME! I never made the connection |
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| 13:27.38 | Sargun | emcnabb, Poke |
| 13:41.45 | emcnabb | emcnabb: Poke |
| 13:42.00 | bonez41 | don't you guys sleep? |
| 13:44.53 | Sargun | I'm on the phone tonight |
| 13:46.52 | emcnabb | bonez41: I'm on the east coast |
| 13:47.01 | emcnabb | off to work, later |
| 13:47.58 | Sargun | I'm on the west coast |
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| 14:30.24 | graphyx | findlay: Looking to delete a line that had a pattern on it. :g/pat/d did what I wanted. someone in #vim helped me out. |
| 14:36.09 | emcnabb | Sargun: so what did you want? |
| 14:36.52 | emcnabb | graphyx: cool |
| 14:39.31 | emcnabb | graphyx: actually, very cool :-) |
| 14:54.10 | graphyx | the vim thing? |
| 14:54.42 | ^Migs^ | http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/blood-tests-debunk-cat-dog-birth-claim/20061117154009990003 |
| 14:55.29 | emcnabb | graphyx: yeah |
| 14:55.54 | graphyx | I thought you would have known that already. |
| 14:56.20 | graphyx | I had a word document that wouldn't open properly probably a unix to dos over ftp bin mode issue or something. |
| 14:56.22 | graphyx | so I just stringed it. |
| 14:56.35 | graphyx | and wanted to clear out some garbage lines. |
| 14:58.41 | ^Migs^ | you know what I don't understand. All these people ridicule PS3 fans for standing in lines for hours just to buy a PS3. But then the ridiculers get into the Black Friday madness and stand in lines for hours just to save a few bucks on some things. |
| 14:59.11 | graphyx | I ridiculed the ps3 people alittle, but I wo'nt be in any line this weekend. |
| 14:59.20 | emcnabb | graphyx: I use vim quite a bit, but am in no way an expert |
| 14:59.59 | ^Migs^ | you know what I want to do is go to a store, buy out the hottest item that everyone's going to want, then do like smashmyps3 and just destroy it in front of everyone |
| 15:00.30 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: do it |
| 15:00.55 | ^Migs^ | well, I'd need donations. Maybe I'll do that next year. |
| 15:01.02 | emcnabb | donations? |
| 15:01.11 | ^Migs^ | I'm not paying for all that out of my pocket |
| 15:01.33 | emcnabb | why would I waste my money on something like that? |
| 15:01.35 | graphyx | yeah the smashps3 guys got donations to pay for it. |
| 15:01.42 | graphyx | yoiu don't get it. |
| 15:01.49 | ^Migs^ | yeah, you don't get it, emcnabb |
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| 15:01.52 | graphyx | ^Migs^ just wants to waste everyone else's money on it. |
| 15:02.05 | graphyx | and make the money back in adwords for his website traffic. |
| 15:02.05 | ^Migs^ | it's not a waste. It demonstrates a point. |
| 15:02.11 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: I do, but I just wnated to give you a hard time |
| 15:02.21 | ^Migs^ | well, you're failing. Miserably. |
| 15:03.54 | emcnabb | hey everyone, I'm a failure! (according to ^Migs^) |
| 15:04.50 | ^Migs^ | no, I said you're failING |
| 15:05.06 | ^Migs^ | you're not yet a failure, but you're dangerously close |
| 15:07.12 | emcnabb | haha, that means a lot coming from you |
| 15:18.17 | emcnabb | ugh, power flickers |
| 15:19.22 | emcnabb | we've had about 24 straight hours of hard rain here |
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| 15:28.49 | Lone_Wanderer | ~seen emcnabb |
| 15:28.58 | ibot | emcnabb is currently on #utah (20h 47m 47s). Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 9m 36s, last said: 'we've had about 24 straight hours of hard rain here'. |
| 15:29.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Where are you emcnabb? |
| 15:30.39 | emcnabb | North Carolina |
| 15:30.42 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh ok |
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| 15:42.54 | graphyx | he came he saw he laughed. and left. |
| 15:46.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay, how do I (using subversion) get rid of all my changes since the last revision? |
| 15:47.15 | graphyx | did you commit? |
| 15:47.18 | Lone_Wanderer | nope |
| 15:47.27 | graphyx | just delete the file and check it back out? |
| 15:47.32 | Lone_Wanderer | well |
| 15:47.32 | graphyx | this is a guiess. |
| 15:47.35 | Lone_Wanderer | I changed a LOT of files |
| 15:47.38 | graphyx | s/guiess/guess/ |
| 15:47.43 | Lone_Wanderer | with :bufdo in vim |
| 15:48.01 | Lone_Wanderer | so I'm not entirely certain what all got changed tbh |
| 15:48.16 | Lone_Wanderer | ahhhh, I needed to use the -R flag with revert |
| 15:49.22 | Lone_Wanderer | and it's taking forever on this slow old server... |
| 15:52.51 | Lone_Wanderer | NOOOO |
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| 16:03.00 | findlay | graphyx: #vim's a fun channel |
| 16:03.35 | findlay | I didn't know about the :g// command |
| 16:07.02 | Lone_Wanderer | How do I find out what distro I'm on? uname -a doesn't give me anything helpful |
| 16:08.12 | Lone_Wanderer | grrr, no locate. I bet this is that weirdo Novell version of Red Hat |
| 16:08.24 | Lone_Wanderer | yep, SuSE |
| 16:08.35 | elg | see if there is an /etc/issue |
| 16:08.46 | elg | Lone_Wanderer: our pity is with you |
| 16:08.56 | ^Migs^ | how much would it cost to lay optic cable in a home? |
| 16:08.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Thank you. They claim they're moving it back on Friday but still |
| 16:09.15 | Lone_Wanderer | that seriously puts me behind until then. maybe I should just go home. |
| 16:10.24 | Lone_Wanderer | What package manager does suse use? |
| 16:10.35 | ^Migs^ | I'm tired of playing Oblivion. I wish that game would end so I can move on to something else |
| 16:10.36 | Lone_Wanderer | and dear God why doesn't it have locate installed? |
| 16:10.44 | Lone_Wanderer | You don't have to finish it Migs. |
| 16:10.56 | ^Migs^ | yes I do. I'm committed now. |
| 16:11.00 | ^Migs^ | I've already logged in almost 150 hours. |
| 16:11.10 | ^Migs^ | and I've just barely started the main storyline. |
| 16:11.18 | Lone_Wanderer | oh wow |
| 16:11.25 | Lone_Wanderer | that's nuts |
| 16:11.46 | ^Migs^ | yeah, no kidding |
| 16:12.01 | Lone_Wanderer | great, it uses rpm's. Another package system to learn. |
| 16:12.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe I should just spend the day working on something else. |
| 16:17.08 | findlay | cat /etc/*release* |
| 16:17.22 | findlay | cat /proc/version |
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| 16:37.53 | Lone_Wanderer | Well when they moved everything over they didn't get subversion with it |
| 16:43.53 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: I feel your pain. I've had to learn enough SuSE recently to get by on it. |
| 16:44.29 | Lone_Wanderer | That's not even the main problem |
| 16:45.02 | Lone_Wanderer | the main problem is that they just moved "everything" (by which they mean nothing other than the database and the contents of the htdocs directory) from one server to another withhout telling me about it |
| 16:45.29 | levi | Ow. |
| 16:45.50 | Lone_Wanderer | So I come in this morning, try to use subversion, and... hmm it's breaking. |
| 16:46.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Try to log in to fix it... hmm, putty's complaining about the key on the server... |
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| 16:46.16 | Lone_Wanderer | hmmm, my password isn't working... |
| 16:52.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Drat, there's no #psychology channel |
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| 16:59.54 | ^Migs^ | I love Thanksgiving. You get to stuff your gut while millions of people are starving. |
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| 17:03.21 | elg | so don't |
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| 17:05.33 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 17:06.06 | ^Migs^ | Maybe I'll go throw some leftovers at some homeless people or something after I'm done engorging myself. Leftovers wrapped in the classifieds section of the newspaper. |
| 17:06.27 | elg | or you could just move to a third world country |
| 17:07.04 | elg | and give food away or starve yourself |
| 17:07.05 | ^Migs^ | uh no, that would be dumb |
| 17:07.38 | ^Migs^ | then I can be thankful I'm so much better than them. |
| 17:09.49 | emcnabb | elg is right, if you think it's wrong to "stuff your gut while millions of people are starving", don't do it |
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| 17:10.22 | levi | You're assuming he thinks its wrong. :) |
| 17:10.36 | emcnabb | levi: true :-) |
| 17:10.48 | levi | And that he has some desire to act in accordance with the moral standard that says it is. |
| 17:22.57 | ^Migs^ | if starving people don't want to starve, they should eat something. Problem solved. |
| 17:23.26 | ^Migs^ | which is what I'll be doing tomorrow, in abundance. |
| 17:23.48 | findlay | ~eat ^Migs^ |
| 17:23.50 | ibot | ACTION eats ^Migs^ and falls over dead |
| 17:28.40 | ^Migs^ | there's no excuse to starve in this day and age. Just start a garden or something. It just amounts to laziness. |
| 17:28.50 | ^Migs^ | Laziness and zero incentive. |
| 17:29.26 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, climate has nothing to do with it. |
| 17:29.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Or soil quality. Or access to seeds. |
| 17:29.47 | graphyx | or access to tools, etc.. |
| 17:29.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Or protection from roaming bands of hungry mercenaries. |
| 17:30.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh wait, you were being sarcastic. |
| 17:30.22 | graphyx | (as ^Migs^) They just need to eat the food before the roving bands of mercenaries get there. |
| 17:30.28 | graphyx | They rove.. |
| 17:35.17 | ^Migs^ | if their climate is unsuitable for harvesting crops, they need to move to a new climate. Plenty of bums roam around. I always see them holding up signs like "NEED MONEY TO GET TO _____". I usually toss them a $1 or two. |
| 17:51.56 | synic | I think it's zero incentive (people provide for them) and the fact that food is a priority second to an addiction. |
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| 17:58.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Who are you talking about synic? |
| 17:58.30 | Lone_Wanderer | I was talking about people in Africa |
| 17:58.49 | synic | that's what I get for only reading what was visible in my screen. |
| 17:59.06 | synic | I feel sheepish. |
| 17:59.18 | Lone_Wanderer | well I never actually said that :) |
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| 18:01.40 | mheath | Mmm. Turkey's in to marinade, some pies are cooked, cranberry sauce is in the fridge. |
| 18:01.44 | mheath | I wish I didn't have to work tonight. |
| 18:01.48 | mheath | I can't wait for tomorrow. |
| 18:02.17 | mheath | The lady at Walmart looked at me like I was crazy buying 15 cans of Vegetable Broth, though. |
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| 18:04.43 | ^Migs^ | crazy.....or jealous? |
| 18:05.09 | mheath | Haha |
| 18:05.22 | mheath | I'm not sure why more people don't marinade their turkey like this |
| 18:05.48 | mheath | From what I can tell, variants of exactly what I'm doing is what all the good chefs recommend doing with your turkey |
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| 18:09.00 | emcnabb | mheath: you'll have to let us know how it turns out |
| 18:09.59 | elg | what's that? deep frying it? |
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| 18:12.06 | bonez39 | have to keep the flame away from the oil, eh? else we'll see you on TV..... |
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| 18:17.54 | emcnabb | elg: marinading it |
| 18:18.04 | emcnabb | we're frying one of ours tomorrow |
| 18:18.13 | emcnabb | deep fried that is |
| 18:19.38 | elg | marinading or brining? |
| 18:20.08 | elg | bonez39: it's all the rage, apparently. if you want to do it I suggest you check out the good eats episode on it |
| 18:20.11 | elg | for safety |
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| 18:22.00 | emcnabb | elg: my inlaws have been deep frying for years - it's a southern thing :-) |
| 18:22.19 | elg | cool |
| 18:22.44 | elg | don't let migs know you're using all that oil. he might want to send it to the poor oilless people in the sahara desert |
| 18:23.28 | emcnabb | haha |
| 18:23.44 | emcnabb | good ol' Migs |
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| 18:53.27 | mrpull | elg: re the oilless, that is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time |
| 18:57.13 | mheath | elg, Marinading / Brining. |
| 18:57.21 | mheath | Salt heavy liquid, but also spiced. |
| 18:58.22 | mheath | Using peppercorns, allspice, candied ginger, and brown sugar to flavor. |
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| 19:31.15 | tensai | ~lart broken raid arrays |
| 19:31.36 | tensai | ~praise fail-over devices |
| 19:31.41 | ibot | All hail fail-over devices! |
| 19:35.07 | elg | mrpull: if you liked that, then you will like this too: http://media.podshow.com/media/229/episodes/37861/digitalflotsam-37861-11-19-2006.m4v |
| 19:35.28 | elg | yet another way to save the planet and/or share your TP wealth with the rest of the world |
| 19:36.52 | mrpull | ewwww ... screw the planet |
| 19:36.56 | mrpull | i'm a 50 sheet guy |
| 19:37.28 | elg | i try to balance my TP usage between two conflicting constraints |
| 19:37.35 | elg | one is that if I use too much the toilet will clog |
| 19:38.15 | mrpull | we may have taken #utah to an unprecedented low today |
| 19:38.26 | mrpull | ~seen goozbach |
| 19:38.54 | ibot | goozbach is currently on #utah (4d 10h 21m 29s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 10h 54m 2s, last said: 'that's AWESOME! I never made the connection'. |
| 19:38.54 | elg | invoke goozbach |
| 20:09.20 | emcnabb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dutmzHSW7tc |
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| 20:20.43 | emcnabb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqDAf_lg9Xs |
| 20:24.03 | graphyx | yes, that is a cool one. |
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| 20:44.51 | nobell | lars used to hang out in here. anybody see him lately? |
| 20:48.18 | emcnabb | he got eaten by a yeti last week |
| 20:48.59 | nobell | I was suspicious that they existed. |
| 20:49.20 | emcnabb | we told him not to go to Tibet, but he wouldn't listen |
| 20:49.32 | emcnabb | honestly though, I haven't seen him around recently |
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| 21:06.21 | graphyx | it's true lars hasn't been seen in a while. |
| 21:06.21 | graphyx | perhaps we need to put up a ransom note like we did with sjansen. |
| 21:06.21 | graphyx | If I stopped showing up would anyone notice? |
| 21:07.32 | mrpull | graphyx: I've never seen you around here... when did you start hanging out in #utah? |
| 21:08.02 | mrpull | isn't it a little odd that google reader doesn't have a search function? |
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| 21:34.42 | maquis | ok... let's say i want to copy all of the files from 'ls | head' into a different dir. i'm fairly certain this can be done with xargs...... |
| 21:48.05 | nobell | ls |head |xargs -IX cp X /home/me/stuff |
| 21:48.34 | nobell | man xargs - it might be a lowercase i in some systems to determine what character to use. |
| 21:50.08 | maquis | nobell: thanks... i had actually determined it would take less time to just copy/paste :) |
| 21:50.15 | maquis | since there were only 10 files in the head |
| 21:50.16 | maquis | :) |
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| 22:11.34 | Sargun | Is the owner of ArrivalTel present? |
| 22:22.00 | Sargun | I'll take that as a no. |
| 22:22.36 | Sargun | Can someone make the speed of light about 15 times as fast as it is currently? |
| 22:22.39 | Sargun | Please. |
| 22:22.49 | Sargun | I'm having some issues regarding cross-country latency. |
| 22:22.56 | Sargun | So, god, please do this. |
| 22:23.07 | Sargun | Uhh, Amen? |
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| 22:37.33 | synic | anyone know gmail fairly well? How do I mark an address as "not spam no matter what" ? |
| 22:38.39 | synic | or maybe a way to see why it was marked as spam so I can fix it |
| 22:39.26 | Sargun | http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=9009&query=spam&topic=&type=f&ctx=search |
| 22:39.28 | Sargun | :-) |
| 22:39.39 | Sargun | RTFM |
| 22:40.05 | plainkeyman | wow i didn't know google and py scripts |
| 22:40.39 | Sargun | Google and python have been in bed together a long time. |
| 22:40.56 | Sargun | They've hired almost the entire python head dev team |
| 22:41.46 | plainkeyman | sweet |
| 22:41.58 | synic | Sargun: yeah, that doesn't help. Some of the email addresses have me in the From: header. |
| 22:42.08 | synic | as in, they appear to be from my address |
| 22:42.10 | Sargun | yeah, add yourself as a contact? |
| 22:42.10 | nobell | haven't they hired almost every head of every company? |
| 22:42.14 | synic | even though it's a web app sending them |
| 22:42.23 | Sargun | nobell, Python is an NPO |
| 22:42.38 | Sargun | synic, Adding yourself as a contact? |
| 22:43.28 | plainkeyman | vb sux :( |
| 22:48.48 | synic | Sargun: yeah, not possible. |
| 22:49.09 | Sargun | :-/ |
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