| 00:07.56 | harleypig | Can anyone tell me where to put my shiny new libflashplayer.so? |
| 00:08.44 | harleypig | I've tried ~/.mozilla/plugins, ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins, ~/.mozilla/firefox/randomtext/plugins, /opt/netscape/plugins ... |
| 00:09.09 | harleypig | firefox is still telling me no plugins have been installed. |
| 00:14.06 | findlay | ~conversation |
| 00:14.08 | ibot | So, how was your day? |
| 00:14.43 | findlay | harleypig: you need an accompanying entry in libplugins.xml.file.whatever |
| 00:16.33 | harleypig | ? Nothing in any docs I can find on that ... where is the libplugins.xml? |
| 00:17.15 | findlay | ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat |
| 00:17.40 | harleypig | Oh ... that one says its generated and I shouldn't edit it ... |
| 00:17.50 | findlay | doesn't the installer work? |
| 00:19.18 | findlay | about:plugins |
| 00:19.56 | harleypig | findlay: there isn't an installer .. it's the flashplayer 9 beta |
| 00:20.09 | Sargun | harleypig, Why don't you use the installer? |
| 00:20.21 | harleypig | Sargun: see above |
| 00:20.37 | harleypig | unless I'm missing something (entirely possible) |
| 00:20.47 | Sargun | your missing something |
| 00:20.50 | harleypig | The only files included in the tar were a readme and a .so file. |
| 00:20.54 | Sargun | Readme.htm Readme.txt flashplayer-installer flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so |
| 00:20.56 | Sargun | I got those |
| 00:21.07 | Sargun | I mean: |
| 00:21.08 | Sargun | flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55: |
| 00:21.08 | Sargun | libflashplayer.so readme.txt |
| 00:21.17 | harleypig | For which version of flashplayer and which platform? |
| 00:21.38 | Sargun | Copy or move libflashplayer.so into your plugins directory (usually located): ~/.mozilla/plugins |
| 00:21.43 | Sargun | thats all I got |
| 00:21.46 | Sargun | your using FF? |
| 00:21.46 | harleypig | Yeah ... I got just those two files. |
| 00:21.48 | harleypig | yeah |
| 00:21.52 | harleypig | 1.5.0.5 |
| 00:22.00 | findlay | no registry update? |
| 00:22.08 | Sargun | umm |
| 00:22.12 | Sargun | quit out of FF |
| 00:22.16 | harleypig | I did |
| 00:22.18 | Sargun | delete all your flashplayer.so |
| 00:22.21 | Sargun | then move back |
| 00:22.24 | harleypig | New install |
| 00:22.27 | harleypig | of the os |
| 00:23.01 | harleypig | flash wasn't installed |
| 00:23.12 | Sargun | Just: find /|grep libflash |
| 00:23.43 | harleypig | I've tried ~/.mozilla/plugins ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins ~/.mozilla/firefox/8y.../plugins /opt/netscape/plugins /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins |
| 00:23.49 | harleypig | with a restart of firefox each time. |
| 00:23.52 | Sargun | ok |
| 00:23.58 | Sargun | umm |
| 00:24.00 | harleypig | Sargun: flash wasn't installed to begin with. |
| 00:24.01 | Sargun | Just |
| 00:24.10 | Sargun | Just: "find /|grep libflash" (For the open source flash lib) |
| 00:24.42 | harleypig | find / -name "*libflash*" -print |
| 00:24.45 | harleypig | woops |
| 00:24.46 | Sargun | or that |
| 00:25.33 | harleypig | the only file that's found is the one I just downloaded. |
| 00:25.44 | Sargun | ok |
| 00:25.49 | Sargun | killall -9 firefox-bin |
| 00:26.12 | Sargun | cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins |
| 00:26.37 | Sargun | firefox & |
| 00:26.48 | Sargun | cat ~/.mozilla/pluginreg.dat |
| 00:26.50 | Sargun | err |
| 00:26.54 | Sargun | scratch that command |
| 00:27.07 | Sargun | grep swf ~/.mozilla/pluginreg.dat |
| 00:27.20 | nick125 | you could try rm -rf'ing that pluginreg.dat file |
| 00:27.33 | Sargun | nick125, mv it out rather |
| 00:27.44 | Sargun | harleypig, then what does that last command give you? |
| 00:28.38 | Sargun | ? |
| 00:29.03 | Sargun | Aren't you hagrad's stunt double? |
| 00:29.07 | harleypig | yeah |
| 00:29.09 | harleypig | :] |
| 00:29.12 | harleypig | I'll try that |
| 00:29.37 | Sargun | What stunts did you pull? |
| 00:32.32 | harleypig | The pluginreg.dat file is regenerated, and it's still empty. |
| 00:32.46 | harleypig | heh ... I pulled a lot of stunts |
| 00:32.47 | Sargun | then you have a problem |
| 00:32.48 | Sargun | brb |
| 00:33.08 | harleypig | Oh ... you mean for the movie ... I signed an nda ... i can't talk about it. |
| 00:33.09 | harleypig | :> |
| 00:33.17 | Sargun | heh |
| 00:33.37 | findlay | harleypig: why don't you try installing an older flash to activate the database then overwrite the old file with the new one |
| 00:36.17 | harleypig | I'm on amd64 platform ... flash hasn't worked |
| 00:36.23 | harleypig | Nothing will install |
| 00:36.34 | findlay | oh |
| 00:36.34 | harleypig | Nothing flash related will install I mean |
| 00:36.34 | findlay | no multilib? |
| 00:36.47 | harleypig | Hmmm ... I haven't tried that |
| 00:36.48 | findlay | try gnash? (-: |
| 00:37.35 | harleypig | ? Hadn't heard of that ... |
| 00:37.35 | harleypig | checking it out |
| 00:38.14 | harleypig | well, hey ... something is compiling |
| 00:44.51 | Sargun | lol |
| 00:45.02 | findlay | ~lol Sargun |
| 00:47.39 | Sargun | Gnash is ugly. |
| 00:49.05 | findlay | I can fit my entire music collection in about 0.25 Tib |
| 00:52.13 | mheath | Hey, can anyone recommend a good place to look for used cars (online) in the greater SLC area? |
| 00:52.33 | findlay | government auctions |
| 00:52.39 | findlay | there's one in NSL |
| 00:52.44 | findlay | probably others |
| 00:52.54 | mheath | No, thank you. |
| 00:52.59 | findlay | decomissioned rental cars |
| 00:53.02 | findlay | why not? |
| 00:53.11 | mheath | I prefer to not find illegal drugs in the inside the panels of my door. |
| 00:53.24 | mheath | A normal car shopping place, please. |
| 00:53.28 | mheath | A website, with pictures etc. |
| 00:53.28 | findlay | mheath: it's a bonus, you can sell it |
| 00:53.34 | findlay | craiglist |
| 00:53.55 | mheath | ~lart findlay |
| 00:54.28 | nick125 | Sargun: ping |
| 00:55.08 | mheath | Holy crap |
| 00:55.13 | mheath | if I went into the Nuclear field in the Navy... |
| 00:55.18 | mheath | Signing bonus of $60,000 |
| 00:56.37 | mheath | Plus, a rank advancement to E-5 ($1759.50 per month versus $1235.17) |
| 00:56.42 | harleypig | that's called hazard pay |
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| 00:58.53 | mheath | harleypig: that is A TON of money, though |
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| 01:02.08 | mheath_shutit | youre talking about it again |
| 01:03.21 | findlay | ~convert 1 ton to money |
| 01:03.34 | mheath | Wow, what the heck is a Volkswagen Thing? |
| 01:03.55 | mheath | It's like...Jeep meets Station Wagon |
| 01:05.28 | harleypig | mheath: meh ... when you start producing little monsters that $60k is gonna seem awfully measly. |
| 01:06.19 | findlay | but not to worry if you have a Volkswagon Thing |
| 01:13.41 | mheath | Holy crap |
| 01:13.48 | mheath | I think I just found my dream car on the internet. |
| 01:13.56 | mheath | On ebay. And I might just be able to afford it |
| 01:14.29 | mheath | Its a Porsche 914-6. It's in poor shape. But the good thing is, since my dad just upgraded the engine in his porsche 914-6, we've got TONS of spare parts for one. |
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| 01:19.17 | mheath | And since its in poor shape, it's likely to stay in my price range :) |
| 01:19.30 | mheath | (It's an ebay auction) |
| 01:23.50 | mheath | oh, bah. I misread. |
| 01:23.59 | mheath | It's a 914, not a 914-6 |
| 01:29.30 | nick125 | this is fun...qwest said it could take up until midnight to get DSL line up |
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| 01:34.44 | Tene | Yay, wireless works! |
| 01:34.51 | Tene | not with bcm43xx, though |
| 01:34.54 | Tene | had to use ndiswrapper |
| 01:45.14 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.18 | nick125 | hmm |
| 01:46.05 | Sargun | lol |
| 01:47.51 | nick125 | knowing my luck, Covad soldered the phone line to their DSLAM |
| 01:49.22 | Sargun | nick125, Can pygame do sound? |
| 01:49.29 | graphyx | anyone know of a digital camera that could survive the worst a 4 year old could give it? |
| 01:49.30 | nick125 | yeah.. |
| 01:49.44 | nick125 | Sargun: it can |
| 01:49.46 | Sargun | graphyx, um, yeah, why? |
| 01:49.59 | Sargun | pygame how do you do sound generation? |
| 01:50.00 | graphyx | Cause I am thinking about getting a simple one for my 5 year old daughter. |
| 01:50.28 | Sargun | My recommendation is to get one of those $30 Polaroid ones |
| 01:50.36 | Sargun | its only VGA |
| 01:50.41 | vontrapp | graphyx: just the other day i saw a fisher price commercial for one |
| 01:50.43 | graphyx | That is fine. |
| 01:50.45 | graphyx | got a link? |
| 01:50.52 | vontrapp | indestructible, marketed to 2 year olds |
| 01:50.53 | nick125 | Sargun: I don't know how well it works, but, its pygame.mixer.music |
| 01:51.02 | Sargun | I don't know, I picked mine up at wal-mart |
| 01:51.13 | graphyx | did you get it for yourself? |
| 01:51.22 | Sargun | yeah |
| 01:51.29 | nick125 | ahha! we now know Sargun's real age! |
| 01:51.34 | graphyx | Just wanted to make sure it could last? |
| 01:51.38 | graphyx | nick125: he's 16. |
| 01:51.38 | Sargun | It was on sale for $9.99 |
| 01:51.41 | graphyx | cool. |
| 01:51.43 | nick125 | graphyx: I know :P |
| 01:51.47 | graphyx | at walmart? recently? |
| 01:51.53 | Sargun | a few months ago |
| 01:52.03 | Sargun | Pre-june |
| 01:52.53 | Sargun | I wonder if they still have it |
| 01:53.32 | findlay_ | linuxalien: no! stay in this alien world! |
| 01:53.40 | Sargun | graphyx, Your in Utah, right? |
| 01:53.46 | graphyx | conway, AR |
| 01:54.17 | Sargun | Aww: http://www.polaroid.com/global/detail.jsp;jsessionid=FVtHQEz8d8RPN4blIzNth9PbadwrGOT6fzPo9eiDqweYfBNw13l3!-990801771!-1979950386!7005!8005!NONE?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441760067&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574488338434&bmUID=1163209992011&bmLocale=en_US |
| 01:54.23 | Sargun | No Longer Manufactured |
| 01:54.47 | graphyx | I wouldn't mind something I could use USB with. |
| 01:54.55 | graphyx | I don't know if i want to deal with serial ports and such.. |
| 01:55.13 | graphyx | I see. |
| 01:55.16 | graphyx | Is that the one you got |
| 01:55.17 | graphyx | ? |
| 01:55.21 | Sargun | yeah |
| 01:55.48 | graphyx | ok |
| 01:56.02 | Sargun | What about the male equivalent of the barbie digital camera? |
| 01:56.13 | graphyx | well it is for my daughter. |
| 01:56.25 | graphyx | so barbie, while not prefered, would probably be ok. |
| 01:56.30 | graphyx | it has to endure her little brother. |
| 01:56.33 | graphyx | as well as her. |
| 01:56.59 | findlay_ | Sargun: doesn't mean you can't find it on ebay |
| 01:57.18 | Sargun | yeah |
| 02:22.53 | findlay_ | at this rate it will take a solid, coninuous 555 days to flac encode all of my music |
| 02:22.55 | findlay_ | \: |
| 02:23.09 | findlay_ | anybody want to donate some CPU cycles? |
| 02:23.12 | findlay_ | (: |
| 02:27.37 | nick125 | haha |
| 02:38.46 | mheath | ~convert 1 megahertz to megawatts |
| 02:38.47 | mheath | :P |
| 02:39.42 | mheath | redbeard1: ping |
| 02:40.12 | graphyx | all your megahertz are belong to us |
| 02:46.28 | findlay_ | oh, nevermind. You're too young to remember old slashdot catch-phrase nonsense |
| 02:46.58 | vontrapp | what kind of hard drive enclosure should i get? |
| 02:47.09 | findlay_ | the red one |
| 02:47.17 | vontrapp | there's some 2.5 ones for as low as $8 |
| 02:47.22 | mheath | findlay always provides such useful advice. |
| 02:47.35 | findlay_ | anything that's not usb |
| 02:47.37 | vontrapp | but alas, standard hard drives are 3.5, no? |
| 02:47.41 | findlay_ | usb is teh slow |
| 02:52.25 | vontrapp | usb is teh prevalent |
| 02:52.51 | vontrapp | maybe one that's usb and firewire |
| 02:53.18 | vontrapp | (my desktop has no firewire, but he stays off most of the time anyway to save electricity) |
| 02:55.07 | vontrapp | ethernet? |
| 02:55.13 | vontrapp | there's ethernet enclosuers? |
| 02:55.23 | findlay_ | hm, all SATA/SCSI interfaces combined are less popular than IEEE1394 according to newegg |
| 02:57.01 | nick125 | ... |
| 02:57.19 | vontrapp | the ethernet ones are to pricey :( |
| 02:58.32 | maquis | ~logs |
| 02:58.34 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 03:00.24 | findlay_ | as are eSATA |
| 03:08.50 | vontrapp | why would an enclosure have two firewire ports? |
| 03:09.03 | findlay_ | to fight fire with fire? |
| 03:09.13 | vontrapp | can you really hook it up to two computers simultaneuously? |
| 03:09.23 | findlay_ | heh |
| 03:10.05 | vontrapp | or is it to chain them? |
| 03:18.03 | findlay_ | if I had all of LANL working for me how long would it take to encode 1 Tib of music? |
| 03:18.59 | nick125 | not too long |
| 03:19.07 | nick125 | maybe an hour..:P |
| 03:19.16 | findlay_ | actually, I meant LLNL |
| 03:19.25 | vontrapp | what do the flaming eggs mean? |
| 03:19.30 | findlay_ | I bet actual computation time might be less than that |
| 03:19.46 | findlay_ | probably means they sell well |
| 03:20.01 | findlay_ | this product is 'hot'? |
| 03:20.20 | vontrapp | didn't i hear on this channel before that western digital was not-so-flaming? |
| 03:20.39 | findlay_ | if flac were distributable, that is |
| 03:20.40 | vontrapp | ~distribute findlay_ |
| 03:20.55 | findlay_ | I have a WD and it's a rock solid drive. Although it is rather loud |
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| 03:21.25 | findlay_ | I don't think HD manufacters are either all good or all bad, but it depends more on the model |
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| 03:36.59 | vontrapp | -lart elg elg_ |
| 03:37.20 | elg_ | -lart vontrapp |
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| 03:37.49 | vontrapp | mmm, that smells fresh! |
| 03:37.59 | findlay_ | ibot: where am I |
| 03:38.00 | ibot | You exist only in my mind |
| 03:39.23 | mheath | It makes me nervous when someone does a ~logs |
| 03:39.39 | mheath | You know they're just trying to dig up dirt :P |
| 03:40.17 | findlay_ | or undig down air? |
| 03:40.28 | mheath | ~lart findlay_ |
| 03:41.26 | maquis | mheath: actually, it usually means that an op has received a complaint and is verifying its authenticity by getting as accurate of a view as possible of the situation |
| 03:43.30 | mheath | maquis: OK? |
| 03:43.47 | mheath | Wow, I feel horrible now. No idea my joking, lighthearted comment would be taken so insanely seriously. |
| 03:43.59 | vontrapp | ~kick maquis |
| 03:44.00 | ibot | bugger off, vontrapp! |
| 03:44.01 | maquis | mheath: just making a comment |
| 03:44.01 | findlay_ | ibot: complain |
| 03:44.12 | findlay_ | ibot: complain to maquis |
| 03:44.21 | maquis | ~lart findlay_ |
| 03:44.28 | vontrapp | ~whine |
| 03:44.29 | ibot | i heard whine is saying "I want you to hold my hand while I install debian because I'm too lazy to read the docs!" |
| 03:44.43 | findlay_ | hehe |
| 03:45.03 | findlay_ | double edged ibot factoid, that one |
| 03:45.13 | maquis | mheath: well, i wasn't going to dig up dirt... |
| 03:45.25 | findlay_ | she was going to dig down air |
| 03:46.12 | mheath | maquis: uh, great? |
| 03:46.43 | maquis | ~pick on mheath because he seems to think that everyone is picking on him anyways |
| 03:46.44 | ibot | ACTION teases mheath because he seems to think that everyone is picking on him anyways until mheath because he seems to think that everyone is picking on him anyways starts to cry |
| 03:47.42 | mheath | Lately they really seem to be :P |
| 03:48.43 | emcnabb | maybe that's saying something about what most people think about him :-) |
| 03:49.22 | mheath | But.......The truth really is out there! |
| 03:49.25 | mheath | </paranoia> |
| 03:55.49 | mheath | maquis: seriously, though, relax. I'll behave. I promise :) |
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| 03:58.14 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 03:58.23 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 04:00.29 | elg | hey emcnabb wassupppp? |
| 04:04.30 | emcnabb | not much elg |
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| 04:08.28 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 04:11.00 | linuxalien | I'm back findlay_ - had to rent bad movies for my fam |
| 04:11.17 | vontrapp | _._ |
| 04:16.26 | maquis | ok....there has *got* to be a way to get sloppy-focus on winXP |
| 04:17.19 | elg | maquis: http://hans.fugal.net/XMouse2000.exe |
| 04:17.28 | elg | i think it works in xp |
| 04:17.48 | maquis | elg: does it require admin access to install? |
| 04:17.53 | elg | probably |
| 04:17.59 | elg | only one way to find out |
| 04:18.05 | vontrapp | TweakUI had a sloppy mouse option |
| 04:18.07 | elg | it might just run, actually |
| 04:18.11 | maquis | no wget? |
| 04:18.16 | maquis | gah! |
| 04:18.48 | elg | where do you keep going to torture yourself so? |
| 04:19.07 | maquis | elg: i'm using my work laptop |
| 04:19.10 | elg | ok, so my hotel has complementary wireless. works great on the first floor |
| 04:19.19 | elg | in my other room, the neighbor's wireless worked great |
| 04:19.22 | maquis | elg: you rock!!!! |
| 04:19.34 | maquis | this just made my day! |
| 04:19.38 | elg | but in this new room I can't get reception |
| 04:19.45 | elg | but there's a repeater just down the hall |
| 04:19.53 | elg | I think the repeaters aren't working. either of them |
| 04:20.54 | elg | I'm betting they don't have a new password and I could hook up with my ethernet cable and reconfigure them to work |
| 04:21.08 | elg | but I debate whether I should, without offering to help first |
| 04:21.12 | elg | but that would have to wait until morning |
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| 04:24.39 | cww | emcnabb no word yet |
| 04:25.05 | maquis | hmmm... |
| 04:25.16 | maquis | the mysterious person who drops in and leaves a message... |
| 04:25.21 | maquis | cww: how are you today? |
| 04:27.51 | elg | what's that thing where some site has a lot of those stupid free registration username/password pairs, like for the NYT? |
| 04:29.06 | cww | maquis, quite well, and you? |
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| 04:46.58 | maquis | cww: doing pretty well |
| 04:47.12 | maquis | just doing some stuff for my work |
| 04:47.40 | maquis | elg: i don't remember, but i know i've used it before, and i wish i knew where it was |
| 04:47.49 | maquis | there was a firefox plugin for a while |
| 04:48.10 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 04:48.25 | levi_home | elg: You thinking of bugmenot? |
| 04:48.33 | elg | levi_home: yup |
| 04:48.38 | elg | found something else through google thoug |
| 04:48.44 | levi_home | Ahh, cool. |
| 04:48.52 | maquis | levi_home: bugmenot! that's what it is! |
| 04:50.22 | levi_home | We went to Thanksgiving Point today. |
| 04:51.16 | levi_home | They've got a really cool art building where they've got a glass blowing shop, a photography/painting studio, silversmithing, ceramics, and a pretty big stained glass production. |
| 04:51.27 | levi_home | Apparently they do a lot of stained glass for temples there. |
| 04:51.58 | levi_home | We watched them put together some stained glass for the Rexburg temple. |
| 04:52.07 | levi_home | Very cool stuff. |
| 04:52.35 | levi_home | Also, for $20 you can make your own glass flower. |
| 04:53.08 | maquis | doh! |
| 04:53.10 | maquis | stupid thing |
| 04:53.16 | levi_home | You get to pull the motlen glass on the tube with these big tweezers. |
| 04:53.56 | levi_home | So, if anyone here is actually in Utah and wants something cool to do for a date... |
| 04:55.32 | elg | my dad may be the engineer at the rexburg temple |
| 04:55.35 | elg | he interviewed for it |
| 04:55.43 | levi_home | Cool. :) |
| 04:56.48 | elg | not all my brothers are excited, but I think rexburg can only be a step up from vernal |
| 04:58.16 | levi_home | Rexburg isn't too bad of a place. |
| 04:58.46 | levi_home | Definitely a strong rural flavor, though. |
| 04:59.21 | levi_home | Nice and close to lots of cool natural stuff. |
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| 05:32.19 | linuxalien | An American Haunting is a cool movie |
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| 06:17.56 | findlay_ | ibot: I am not at gatech |
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| 06:44.37 | Mystery_Mark | Okay, so i'm on a internet personals site for mormons. |
| 06:44.59 | Mystery_Mark | It's ironic though, half these girls probably don't act mormon once they meet you. |
| 06:45.28 | Chadbryant | LOL |
| 06:45.50 | Chadbryant | To some of them, "CTR" stands for "Choose Trojan Ribbed". |
| 06:47.25 | Mystery_Mark | lol |
| 06:47.27 | JoshH | in that case, what site is it? |
| 06:47.28 | Mystery_Mark | awsome |
| 06:47.32 | Mystery_Mark | ldsmingle |
| 06:47.55 | Chadbryant | Someone should just be honest. |
| 06:48.02 | Chadbryant | And start ldsmeatmarket.com. |
| 06:48.06 | Mystery_Mark | Okay |
| 06:48.18 | Mystery_Mark | I've met some of the girls off ldsmingle.com |
| 06:48.24 | Mystery_Mark | yes, I did get lucky |
| 06:48.38 | JoshH | did you have to go to church with them first? |
| 06:48.46 | Mystery_Mark | i'm not mormon |
| 06:48.54 | Mystery_Mark | i'm an athiest |
| 06:49.29 | JoshH | did you tell them that? |
| 06:50.04 | Mystery_Mark | no, i posed as a lost mormon boy. |
| 06:50.13 | Mystery_Mark | it's Utah |
| 06:50.23 | Mystery_Mark | The girls here are so easy. |
| 06:50.41 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.42 | Sargun | Crap. |
| 06:50.56 | Sargun | Wow, did I see someone in here commenting on girls being "easy" |
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| 06:51.31 | JoshH | heh ya, they all want a strapping "rm" |
| 06:53.45 | Chadbryant | I dated a BYU grad who couldn't handle the fact that I'd been married before, and that I had kids. |
| 06:54.07 | Chadbryant | "I can't be, you know...intimate...with a guy who has been...you know...intimate...with another woman." |
| 06:54.47 | JoshH | she wouldn't be cut out for polygamist life then |
| 06:54.54 | Sargun | Chadbryant, How old are you? |
| 06:55.03 | Chadbryant | I'm 30. |
| 06:55.17 | Sargun | Ah. |
| 06:56.36 | Chadbryant | Got married at 21. |
| 06:56.42 | Chadbryant | Got divorced at 26. |
| 06:56.44 | JoshH | i never dated a mormon except for my current gf, who was barely mormon when i met her and now isn't at all, but i know a lot of people who really were in deep relationships/marriages with mormon women and it always ended horribly because the women wanted the mormon lifestyle and they didn't and it couldn't be reconciled. but i guess if you aren't actually looking for a relationship it wouldn't matter. |
| 06:58.06 | Sargun | Mormon girls are too prudent. |
| 06:59.05 | JoshH | to an extent |
| 06:59.24 | Chadbryant | I think you mean "prudish". |
| 06:59.49 | JoshH | at my high school the hot mormon girls would make out, heavy pet, etc with just about anyone, but they usually wouldn't go any further |
| 07:00.25 | Chadbryant | What do you call a Mormon girl that hasn't petted heavily? |
| 07:00.37 | JoshH | of course some were mega sluts though |
| 07:00.39 | Chadbryant | Ugly. |
| 07:00.51 | JoshH | haha |
| 07:01.23 | JoshH | so true |
| 07:01.43 | Sargun | Chadbryant, Language btw. |
| 07:02.09 | Chadbryant | I apologize if I offend. |
| 07:02.23 | JoshH | late night is when #utah is no holds barred |
| 07:02.37 | Chadbryant | Oh, kind of like Conemax |
| 07:02.39 | Chadbryant | er |
| 07:02.41 | Chadbryant | Cinemax |
| 07:02.52 | levi_home | Skinemax? |
| 07:03.11 | JoshH | during the day it's just all the provo people talking about programming |
| 07:03.30 | Chadbryant | And we knkw sex is illegal in Provo. |
| 07:04.01 | Chadbryant | Unless it's to concieve child #7. |
| 07:04.25 | JoshH | or #12 |
| 07:04.33 | JoshH | i think gayle ruzicka has about 13 now |
| 07:04.35 | levi_home | Well, Freenode is ostensibly about programming. :P |
| 07:05.19 | JoshH | heh, nothing wrong with that levi, just not quite as scintillating :P |
| 07:06.31 | Chadbryant | I discovered Freenode through Wikipedia. |
| 07:07.32 | Sargun | King Kong was a horrible, long movie. |
| 07:08.05 | Sargun | Did I mention how bad it was? |
| 07:08.09 | Sargun | :-P |
| 07:08.28 | Chadbryant | You know what movie I can not sit through for more than 10 minutes before I want to kill myself and everyone connected with making it? |
| 07:08.38 | Chadbryant | "Blues Brothers 2000". |
| 07:08.42 | Sargun | Anyone here watched Borat? |
| 07:09.25 | Chadbryant | I want to see that. |
| 07:09.31 | Chadbryant | I have heard it is hysterical. |
| 07:11.50 | JoshH | i haven't liked any of the ali g stuff i've seen |
| 07:12.00 | JoshH | so i think i'll skip borat unless i get talked into going to it with a group |
| 07:13.28 | Chadbryant | I think you have to be into that style of comedy to like it. |
| 07:13.33 | Chadbryant | And many people aren't. |
| 07:14.06 | JoshH | i do understand the appeal of it |
| 07:14.24 | JoshH | it just doesn't make me laugh out loud very often |
| 07:14.42 | Sargun | I might see it with a group. |
| 07:14.59 | Sargun | Too many teenagers are into that kind of movie |
| 07:15.13 | JoshH | i mean, it's not that i don't like it, i just don't like it enough to actually go down to the theater and pay for it |
| 07:15.22 | Sargun | yeah |
| 07:15.29 | Sargun | Stupid humour sucks |
| 07:15.37 | Sargun | Its good while coding though |
| 07:17.23 | Chadbryant | I "get" stuff like "South Park" and "Family Guy". |
| 07:17.44 | Chadbryant | Because I know that the writers are making a statement while trying to offend as many people as possible, |
| 07:17.52 | Sargun | heh |
| 07:18.02 | JoshH | i like good episodes of south park, but most of family guy is meh |
| 07:18.07 | Chadbryant | And I'm not easily offended, and can laugh at myself & my surroundings. |
| 07:18.15 | JoshH | nothing offends me |
| 07:18.33 | Chadbryant | It's all about intent with me. |
| 07:19.09 | Chadbryant | A stereotypical redneck using the 'n-word' (which I encountered too many times while on active duty) is offensive. |
| 07:19.20 | JoshH | i don't care for stuff that tries to be offensive just for the sake of being offensive |
| 07:19.25 | Chadbryant | OTOH, "Blazing Saddles" is one of the greatest movies ever. |
| 07:20.50 | JoshH | history channel had a show on nazism in america the other day, it showed some of the aryan rallies up in idaho, yelling white power and screaming stuff about jews and minorities. it didn't offend me, but it really made me pity them just for their stupidity and ignorance. |
| 07:21.27 | JoshH | most of them have probably never seen a black person besides on tv |
| 07:21.48 | Chadbryant | There are these twin girls from the town in California where I spent far too many of my formative years. |
| 07:21.51 | JoshH | and of course most black people on tv fit the stereotypes |
| 07:22.09 | Chadbryant | They started a vocal group to sing about "Aryan pride". |
| 07:22.15 | JoshH | oh, i've heard about those girls |
| 07:22.21 | JoshH | it's pretty sad |
| 07:22.36 | Chadbryant | It is both hilariously stupid and depressingly stupid. |
| 07:22.58 | JoshH | mostly depressing imo |
| 07:23.09 | JoshH | the world would be so much better without all the morons out there |
| 07:24.06 | Chadbryant | To an extent, yes. |
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| 07:37.18 | Sargun | So, who is still alive in here? |
| 07:37.32 | bmidgley | still... alive... |
| 07:46.47 | vontrapp_ | actually, i'm feeling much better now. I think i'll go for a walk |
| 07:47.11 | Chadbryant | I'm here. |
| 07:47.21 | Chadbryant | Just not always in this window. |
| 07:48.22 | Sargun | Chadbryant, So how is it going? |
| 07:48.33 | Sargun | Why aren't you enjoying your friday night with some girl? |
| 07:48.53 | Sargun | JoshH, California girls are awesome |
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| 07:49.26 | JoshH | as long as they aren't plastic |
| 07:49.43 | JoshH | or silicone |
| 07:49.55 | Sargun | Just stay away from LA |
| 07:50.39 | Sargun | JoshH, What area? |
| 07:50.52 | Sargun | of cali? |
| 07:50.53 | Sargun | er |
| 07:50.55 | Sargun | I mean Chadbryant |
| 07:51.20 | Sargun | so bmidgley what brings you here? |
| 07:51.34 | JoshH | insomnia? |
| 07:51.50 | Chadbryant | It's going OK...just up playing around w/ Ubuntu. |
| 07:52.07 | Sargun | Chadbryant, You lived in California? |
| 07:52.24 | Chadbryant | Yeah, I lived there for many of my first 21 years. |
| 07:52.30 | Sargun | What area? |
| 07:52.53 | Sargun | Socal, or norcal? |
| 07:53.28 | Chadbryant | Bakersfield. |
| 07:53.38 | Sargun | A.k.a. middle of nowhere |
| 07:53.43 | Chadbryant | Two hours north of L.A. |
| 07:53.49 | Chadbryant | Two hours south of Fresno. |
| 07:53.58 | Sargun | Yeah, I know where Bakersfield is... |
| 07:53.58 | Chadbryant | Two hours from the beach. |
| 07:54.08 | Chadbryant | Two hours from the desert. |
| 07:54.18 | Chadbryant | In short, I was two hours from anything interesting. |
| 07:54.33 | Sargun | San Francisco? |
| 07:55.17 | Chadbryant | No, I was about 5 hours from SF. |
| 07:58.11 | Sargun | Me: 45 minutes from SJ, 45 minutes from SF, 1 hour from MV, 2 hours from the beach, 2 hours from the snow |
| 07:59.10 | atoponce | http://qdb.us/53151 |
| 08:01.39 | bmidgley | Sargun, I pulled up irc to see if the bluez guys were awake |
| 08:02.10 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 08:02.23 | Sargun | bmidgley, Ah, what are you doing over bluetooth? |
| 08:02.53 | bmidgley | working on audio drivers |
| 08:03.42 | Chadbryant | OK, I'm out for tonight. |
| 08:03.57 | Chadbryant | Take care, all. |
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| 08:05.48 | Sargun | I doubt the executives of McDonalds eat McDonalds. |
| 08:07.02 | maquis | the execs of amazon.com buy stuff at amazon.com |
| 08:07.07 | maquis | and sometimes their orders get messed up |
| 08:07.10 | maquis | :) |
| 08:07.28 | JoshH | i've never had an amazon order messed up :) |
| 08:08.05 | JoshH | fast food orders though... different story |
| 08:08.29 | Sargun | heh |
| 08:17.07 | atoponce | http://qdb.us/35410 |
| 08:20.43 | Sargun | lol |
| 08:22.17 | atoponce | last one: http://qdb.us/57267 |
| 08:22.42 | atoponce | some people are just so dumb |
| 08:23.40 | atoponce | but that job rocks |
| 08:25.44 | Sargun | Heh. |
| 08:27.28 | maquis | yeah |
| 08:29.12 | bmidgley | I posted a few pictures of my nokia trip |
| 08:29.23 | bmidgley | http://flamebot.com/blog |
| 08:56.51 | Sargun | I should watch Dr. Who. |
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| 15:50.21 | cww | emcnabb 92.9 |
| 16:04.07 | elg | dilvie! |
| 16:04.11 | elg | I have got something for you |
| 16:04.16 | elg | dilvie: http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~zadel/differentstrokes/ |
| 16:08.16 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 16:09.56 | findlay_ | hey, I want a ride too |
| 16:11.36 | elg | ~bury findlay_ |
| 16:38.38 | emcnabb | cww: congrats! |
| 16:41.31 | elg | is that his body temp? |
| 16:42.01 | emcnabb | elg: I hope not :-) |
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| 16:53.38 | findlay | findlay is such a boring nick |
| 16:54.18 | cool_nick | ibot: I'm cool |
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| 17:40.28 | bonez39 | any openoffice writer mailmerge wizards in here today? #openoffice.org doesn't seem to have anyone around today |
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| 17:46.54 | mheath | ~warm emcnabb |
| 17:49.10 | bonez39 | do any of you subscribe to LinuxJournal ? digital edition? |
| 17:49.27 | nick125 | I'm subscribed to the paper edition here... |
| 17:50.00 | mheath | I never saw much of a reason to subscribe. |
| 18:00.37 | bonez39 | nick125, I subscribe to the digital edition and am thinking I should switch it to paper now.... |
| 18:00.59 | bonez39 | the digital comes in a .pdf and takes forever to jump around in that..at least on my machine |
| 18:04.04 | mheath | Is the network manager in Edgy broken? |
| 18:04.09 | mheath | Doesn't work with my wireless card |
| 18:04.16 | mheath | Though I can connect via the command line using dhclient |
| 18:04.21 | mheath | Or by the gnome network settings panel |
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| 18:19.39 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah | Read http://plug.org/node/28 | Thanks for voting, here's the outcome: goozbach: 7 sjansen: -2 | Thank you to all of our veterans, who put it all on the line to make (and keep) this world a better place, and Hoorah to the Marine Corps (10 NOV 1775) |
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| 18:20.05 | mheath | ibot: welcome back |
| 18:20.07 | ibot | Howdy, back! |
| 18:20.21 | mheath | ibot: Wrong |
| 18:20.23 | ibot | somebody said wrong was http://people.trustcommerce.com/~adam/top10/wrong.html |
| 18:20.36 | mheath | ibot: How was your day? |
| 18:20.38 | ibot | Great, thank you for asking! |
| 18:28.07 | cool_nick | ~conversation |
| 18:28.08 | ibot | So, how was your day? |
| 18:28.15 | cool_nick | whatever |
| 18:30.46 | cool_nick | why would cdfs be more reliable for reading data off from an optical disc than cdparanoia? |
| 18:38.16 | mheath | I'm looking for a recomendation for a simple WM |
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| 18:38.37 | mheath | That makes doing the same simple tasks (opening a couple different applications or documents) simple and easy for someone who isn't at all familiar with Linux or WMs or any of that junk |
| 18:39.22 | mheath | It's just a computer that will be preconfigured for doing the same simple tasks or running the same applications. Just need a WM to do that which is pretty intuative. |
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| 19:00.32 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah | Read http://plug.org/node/28 | Thanks for voting, here's the outcome: goozbach: 7 sjansen: -2 | Thank you to all of our veterans, who put it all on the line to make (and keep) this world a better place, and Hoorah to the Marine Corps (10 NOV 1775) |
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| 19:21.34 | epp | why do my fonts change when i install the ATI drivers? |
| 19:22.05 | cool_nick | because ATI is teh suxorz |
| 19:22.23 | epp | really? |
| 19:22.42 | epp | well thats not what lenovo thinks |
| 19:22.50 | Tene | is ndiswrapper supposed to be broken on xen? |
| 19:22.55 | cool_nick | no, but I've had fonts change by things like that |
| 19:23.08 | epp | ever fixed it? |
| 19:23.13 | cool_nick | Tene: with xen, nothing is certain |
| 19:23.30 | cool_nick | I think it requires a knowledge of fonts and X above my understanding |
| 19:23.54 | epp | hmm |
| 19:24.10 | cool_nick | try playing around with the gnome/kde font dialog |
| 19:24.21 | cool_nick | or /etc/X11/xorg.conf font settings |
| 19:24.26 | epp | kk |
| 19:24.26 | cool_nick | that's where I'd start |
| 19:24.56 | cool_nick | it may be that the ATI driver has replaced your default serif and sans serif font families |
| 19:25.12 | epp | i think so |
| 19:25.31 | cool_nick | or turned on/off hinting or other font black magic |
| 19:27.46 | epp | how would i go about "repairing" my default fonts? |
| 19:28.04 | cool_nick | that's where my knowledge ends |
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| 19:58.24 | maquis | stupid question: does anybody know how to stop windows from logging me out every time i'm idle for more than 10 minutes? |
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| 20:10.05 | cool_nick | ibot: say hi |
| 20:10.08 | ibot | hi |
| 20:10.32 | cool_nick | maquis: dig through the control panel guis? |
| 20:13.23 | Sargun | install Linux? |
| 20:13.39 | Sargun | Reinstall? |
| 20:14.21 | cool_nick | linse, rather, repeat |
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| 20:14.35 | nick125 | brb guys (detaching so I don't get an IP collision when I setup my firewall) |
| 20:14.56 | cool_nick | later nick125. It was fun while it lasted |
| 20:21.07 | Tene | maquis: it's in the screensaver preferences, oslt |
| 20:22.19 | cool_nick | wow. 5^5^5^5 is huge |
| 20:23.12 | cool_nick | it hasn't even reached the first symmetric tetration and it's swapping |
| 20:25.33 | graphyx | cool_nick: yep 25^2 is big too.. |
| 20:25.37 | graphyx | er.. hvm.. |
| 20:25.47 | graphyx | nvm you said 5^5^5^5 not 5*5*5*5 |
| 20:26.55 | cool_nick | 5 + 5 => 10 , 5*5 => 25 , 5^5 => 3125 , 5>5 => HUGE |
| 20:31.57 | graphyx | right. |
| 20:32.42 | graphyx | 5^5^5^5 = 3125^3125 |
| 20:34.28 | cool_nick | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_function |
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| 20:44.43 | Sargun | Anyone in here own a teenager? (12-18) |
| 20:44.52 | emcnabb | own? |
| 20:45.00 | Sargun | Um |
| 20:45.04 | cool_nick | I'm 11. Does that count? |
| 20:45.05 | Sargun | Are responsible for |
| 20:45.14 | emcnabb | not me |
| 20:45.19 | Sargun | cool_nick, What do you spend most of your time on the computer doing? |
| 20:45.41 | cool_nick | trying to get Sargun to laugh at my stupid hyperbole |
| 20:45.53 | Sargun | No. |
| 20:45.57 | cool_nick | or in this case, um, parabole |
| 20:46.04 | Sargun | Stupid findlay. |
| 20:46.18 | cool_nick | discovered! |
| 20:48.41 | Sargun | Anyone responsible here for children (>5 years) |
| 20:49.03 | graphyx | yes |
| 20:49.07 | graphyx | I have 4 kids 5 and under. |
| 20:50.07 | Sargun | graphyx, Greater than 5, but do they use the internet? |
| 20:50.19 | graphyx | no. |
| 20:50.34 | Sargun | Is that because your afraid of letting them use the internet? |
| 20:51.17 | Sargun | Fear, doubt, disbelief clear your mind |
| 20:52.48 | Sargun | no response? |
| 20:53.25 | cool_nick | graphyx: it's OK, Sargun is just trying to sell you his latest internet service (: |
| 20:53.33 | Sargun | heh |
| 20:53.37 | Sargun | cool_nick, No. |
| 20:53.49 | Sargun | I want to know why he doesn't let them use the intarweb. |
| 20:53.52 | emcnabb | Sargun: you sound like a predator looking for prey |
| 20:53.57 | Sargun | Haha |
| 20:54.07 | emcnabb | "do you have any young daughters I can chat with? |
| 20:54.08 | emcnabb | " |
| 20:54.18 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 20:54.21 | cool_nick | and ~onjoin Sargun |
| 20:54.22 | emcnabb | as long as they're not undercover FBI agents |
| 20:54.26 | cool_nick | interesting |
| 20:54.40 | Sargun | emcnabb, I think I've been hit up by a couple FBI agents on freenode |
| 20:54.53 | cool_nick | like emcnabb for one |
| 20:54.58 | emcnabb | no thanks |
| 20:55.40 | cool_nick | emcnabb: it's no use denying your afilliation with the FBI |
| 21:01.31 | graphyx | Sargun: Just rtying to keep them away from people like you. |
| 21:01.42 | Sargun | hahah |
| 21:04.01 | Sargun | If you own a child |
| 21:04.06 | Sargun | I am your worst nightmare |
| 21:06.30 | atoponce | anyone know why postfix would cause kjournald to go crazy? |
| 21:06.49 | atoponce | i'm getting a lot of read/writes- more than i would think would be normal |
| 21:07.22 | atoponce | from top: 1862 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 15.8 0.0 40:40.53 kjournald |
| 21:07.32 | atoponce | several times / day |
| 21:08.06 | emcnabb | is it on a busy mail server? |
| 21:09.13 | atoponce | no |
| 21:09.13 | Sargun | or on a server at all |
| 21:09.16 | atoponce | yes |
| 21:09.23 | Sargun | that might be why |
| 21:09.41 | Sargun | Consider using XFS |
| 21:09.47 | Sargun | or ext2 |
| 21:09.52 | atoponce | but postfix is definitely the culprit. stopping postfix, and it only runs once / day |
| 21:10.14 | atoponce | start postfix, and it goes nuts several times / day. |
| 21:10.28 | atoponce | there has to be a setting to tweak it. |
| 21:11.10 | emcnabb | anything in the logs? |
| 21:11.28 | Sargun | heh |
| 21:11.52 | atoponce | hmm. let me look |
| 21:13.19 | atoponce | where are the logs for postfix? /var/log has none |
| 21:13.44 | emcnabb | one thing I've seen before is on a busy mail server, mail log messages are synchronous written to disk by syslog |
| 21:14.00 | emcnabb | kjournald gets bogged down because of so many writes |
| 21:14.04 | emcnabb | /var/log/maillog |
| 21:14.29 | Sargun | /var/log/mail for me |
| 21:14.39 | emcnabb | yeah, depends on the distro |
| 21:16.14 | atoponce | oooh. found an error. i should check the logs more often |
| 21:18.09 | atoponce | i'm not finding anything that would identify the heavy read/writes |
| 21:19.51 | emcnabb | atoponce: which distro? |
| 21:21.02 | atoponce | ubuntu. and i found the logs |
| 21:21.31 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 21:21.51 | nick125 | haha, I've done that a few times |
| 21:22.21 | atoponce | you get something in your mind, and your blind to everything else... |
| 21:22.34 | atoponce | kjournald is still chugging away... |
| 21:22.47 | emcnabb | it's happening right now? |
| 21:22.49 | atoponce | that's almost 20 min so far |
| 21:23.02 | atoponce | lots of read/writes to the hdd |
| 21:23.07 | atoponce | it's going nuts |
| 21:23.07 | emcnabb | do 'ps aux |grep D' |
| 21:23.10 | Sargun | post a lsof / |
| 21:23.41 | emcnabb | is postfix listed, or just kjournald? |
| 21:24.21 | atoponce | emcnabb: http://pastebin.ca/246090 |
| 21:25.06 | emcnabb | interesting |
| 21:25.17 | emcnabb | this process seems to be the culprit |
| 21:25.18 | emcnabb | postfix 1780 0.3 0.8 4688 1540 ? D 14:21 0:00 bounce -z -n defer -t unix -u -c |
| 21:25.29 | Sargun | bounce baby bounce :-P |
| 21:25.39 | emcnabb | it's in uninterruptable sleep |
| 21:26.13 | atoponce | good eye. how to stop it? |
| 21:26.24 | atoponce | or put it to sleep? |
| 21:26.33 | emcnabb | try running 'strace -p 1780' |
| 21:26.54 | atoponce | 'no such process' |
| 21:27.20 | emcnabb | looks like it already finished |
| 21:27.25 | atoponce | changed processes on me |
| 21:27.31 | Sargun | atoponce, Hire me! |
| 21:27.49 | atoponce | Sargun: no thx. have to learn one way or the other... |
| 21:28.13 | Sargun | atoponce, minimum wage teenager vs. precious atoponce time? |
| 21:28.14 | atoponce | emcnabb: caught the process, now i'm getting text just scrolling and scrolling |
| 21:28.25 | emcnabb | hit ctrl-c |
| 21:28.29 | atoponce | ahh. stopped. 'detatched' |
| 21:28.33 | emcnabb | what are the last several lines? |
| 21:28.44 | Sargun | atoponce, push to file strace -p XXXX 2> dump.log |
| 21:29.39 | atoponce | emcnabb: http://pastebin.ca/246092 |
| 21:30.14 | Sargun | post your postfix configuration files |
| 21:30.17 | Sargun | main and master |
| 21:32.16 | emcnabb | atoponce: hum |
| 21:32.23 | atoponce | Sargun: main.cf: http://pastebin.ca/246094 |
| 21:33.14 | Sargun | Ah |
| 21:33.17 | Sargun | and master |
| 21:33.38 | atoponce | master.cf: http://pastebin.ca/246098 |
| 21:36.04 | atoponce | kjournald is still going. noting outlasts the energizer. it keeps going, and going, and going... |
| 21:36.08 | atoponce | :-)ยป |
| 21:36.52 | atoponce | anything? i appreciate your help on this btw emcnabb and Sargun. thx! |
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| 21:37.10 | epp | anyone use atheros? |
| 21:37.39 | emcnabb | sorry, doing 3 things at once |
| 21:37.47 | atoponce | emcnabb: np. :) |
| 21:38.04 | atoponce | maybe i should just reinstall from scratch |
| 21:38.26 | atoponce | remove cf files, drop databases, and redo |
| 21:38.27 | emcnabb | well, it pretty much comes down to two things that could be happening |
| 21:38.42 | emcnabb | 1) postfix or some app is doing a lot of writes |
| 21:38.57 | emcnabb | 2) the disks or filesystems can't keep up |
| 21:39.27 | Sargun | No problem. |
| 21:39.29 | atoponce | i'm stopping it. it worries me |
| 21:39.48 | atoponce | it's on a pentium 400 192MB |
| 21:39.55 | Sargun | oh |
| 21:39.56 | emcnabb | try this |
| 21:39.58 | Sargun | get a VPS :-P |
| 21:40.00 | atoponce | phew. stopped |
| 21:40.09 | Sargun | epp, why? |
| 21:40.10 | emcnabb | vmstat 2 |
| 21:40.50 | emcnabb | (run that when you're seeing the problem) |
| 21:41.00 | emcnabb | check out the si, so, bi, and bo fields |
| 21:41.09 | atoponce | my swap is shrinking... |
| 21:41.16 | emcnabb | with that much RAM there's a good chance you're swapping a lot |
| 21:41.22 | atoponce | yeah |
| 21:41.32 | epp | Sargun, because im installing linux a a friends computer and he has a AR5005G. its unsupported so i cant get on encrypted networks with it. It doesnt show up with network manger |
| 21:41.56 | epp | I want to be able to use netowrk manager with iut |
| 21:42.26 | atoponce | emcnabb: http://pastebin.ca/246104 |
| 21:42.33 | emcnabb | epp: does it show up at all when you run iwconfig? |
| 21:43.12 | emcnabb | it |
| 21:43.21 | epp | yes. |
| 21:43.23 | emcnabb | 's writing out a lot to disk |
| 21:43.36 | atoponce | yeah. i can hear it churnning |
| 21:44.10 | emcnabb | but it's not really swapping |
| 21:44.43 | emcnabb | lots of interrupts and context switches too |
| 21:44.57 | epp | so what do i have to do to get it to work with nwm? |
| 21:44.58 | emcnabb | atoponce: I don't know what to say |
| 21:45.07 | atoponce | grrr! |
| 21:45.11 | atoponce | emcnabb: thx for your help |
| 21:45.24 | atoponce | i'm going to throw my server out the window now |
| 21:45.25 | emcnabb | is this a production server? |
| 21:45.33 | atoponce | no. personal server |
| 21:45.41 | atoponce | i may start from stratch |
| 21:46.54 | emcnabb | what else is running on the box? |
| 21:46.59 | emcnabb | just postfix? |
| 21:47.27 | atoponce | apache2, mysql mainly |
| 21:48.05 | epp | emcnabb, what does it mean that its working but not in nwm? |
| 21:51.51 | emcnabb | go to go, sorry guys (date night w/ the wife, she's waiting at the door) |
| 21:51.58 | emcnabb | atoponce: sorry I wasn't much help |
| 21:52.25 | Sargun | emcnabb, have fun |
| 21:52.32 | Sargun | atoponce, disk is still killing you? |
| 21:52.58 | atoponce | emcnabb: thx for your help. i'm heading to a meeting anyway |
| 21:53.09 | Sargun | atoponce, on a saturday? |
| 21:53.18 | atoponce | Sargun: i've stopped it. i'm thinking i'm just going to install postfix from scratch |
| 21:53.28 | atoponce | yeah. the ubuntu-utah meet in slc |
| 21:53.30 | Sargun | get rid of bounce |
| 21:53.37 | Sargun | oh |
| 21:53.44 | Sargun | I thought you meant company sponsored |
| 21:53.46 | Sargun | :-P |
| 21:53.56 | atoponce | oh. nope |
| 21:55.08 | Sargun | not good: Last login: Wed Dec 31 1969 16:00:00 -0800 |
| 21:57.50 | atoponce | isn't that about the time unix epoch time started |
| 21:58.06 | Sargun | yeah |
| 21:58.11 | nick125 | 2 |
| 21:58.12 | nick125 | er |
| 21:58.13 | Sargun | I think thats pre-epoch |
| 21:58.19 | Sargun | nick125, pickup your phone |
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| 22:08.49 | epp | does ndiswrapper work with network-manager? |
| 22:12.17 | Sargun | I don't know |
| 22:12.22 | Sargun | I hate network-manager |
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| 22:51.12 | synic | epp: yeah |
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| 22:56.04 | epp | synic, k thanks |
| 22:56.48 | Goran | hi |
| 23:06.30 | Goran | mormons suck |
| 23:06.45 | epp | why is this? |
| 23:06.58 | Goran | because i can't buy a fucking beer in utah |
| 23:07.09 | epp | agreed |
| 23:07.13 | epp | when i run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" it says "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure you have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel" |
| 23:09.07 | epp | im using the 386, shouldi just use the generic? |
| 23:09.12 | synic | Goran: you might want to watch what you say and where you say it. |
| 23:09.20 | epp | for the restricted modules? |
| 23:09.38 | synic | did you install the restricted modules? |
| 23:09.47 | epp | yeah, the 386. |
| 23:10.03 | synic | what happens if you just modprobe nvidia ? |
| 23:11.17 | epp | not loading nvidia module |
| 23:11.37 | synic | that's all it says? |
| 23:11.47 | synic | what does uname -a say? |
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| 23:11.55 | epp | and that its not present in xorg.conf |
| 23:13.08 | Sargun | Goran, I'd shutup before goozbach/maquis/other op shows up. |
| 23:13.19 | epp | i think i might have messed it up by using the nvidia.com *.run. It did some kernel module stuff thats messing it up? |
| 23:13.56 | synic | epp: .. Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change 'nv' to 'nvidia' in the video driver section |
| 23:14.15 | epp | thought of that, when i do that x fails to start. |
| 23:14.41 | Goran | hey, free speech you fucking mormon |
| 23:14.55 | synic | Goran: IRC is not a democrazy, moron. |
| 23:14.59 | synic | er.. democracy. |
| 23:14.59 | epp | hey man, im not active but that still offends me. |
| 23:15.22 | epp | true. they will just ban you now. |
| 23:15.57 | *** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ |
| 23:15.57 | Goran | hey, having more than 1 wife is cool |
| 23:15.59 | Goran | but still |
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| 23:16.58 | epp | so synic, is there anything i can do to reverse the changes i made to the kernel? |
| 23:17.05 | Sargun | I don't think Goran knows I am the furthest thing from Mormon in here... |
| 23:17.18 | maquis | :) |
| 23:17.22 | synic | epp: you should give more details when you describe an error. "X fails to start" doesn't really help. |
| 23:17.30 | Sargun | synic, paste Xorg.0.log |
| 23:17.33 | Sargun | er |
| 23:17.35 | Sargun | pastebin |
| 23:17.46 | Sargun | If you paste it feel free to earn a +q |
| 23:18.44 | synic | epp: you can run this: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*nvidia*" -exec rm -rf {} \; |
| 23:19.00 | synic | then apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` |
| 23:19.06 | synic | apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx |
| 23:19.10 | epp | ok, ill give it a shot |
| 23:21.22 | epp | that modules folder has two. 386 and generic |
| 23:21.34 | synic | that's what the `uname -r` is for |
| 23:22.03 | epp | says no suck folder. |
| 23:22.11 | epp | err... such. |
| 23:22.29 | synic | what does uname -r return if you just type it alone? |
| 23:22.29 | epp | ill just do it to both |
| 23:22.41 | epp | 386 :) |
| 23:23.05 | synic | are you using backquotes? |
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| 23:23.28 | epp | ill just substitute 386. |
| 23:24.18 | epp | it doesnt exist |
| 23:24.46 | synic | just copy/paste what I typed. |
| 23:24.49 | epp | ok |
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| 23:26.33 | epp | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.45 | epp | ok |
| 23:28.35 | epp | still an error |
| 23:28.41 | epp | same one |
| 23:33.57 | epp | synic, do you want to look? |
| 23:35.41 | epp | i have ssh on that computer forwarded. |
| 23:38.03 | epp | anyone? |