| 00:02.30 | Keighvin | Tene: ^Z ; killall -9 installer |
| 00:09.00 | emcnabb | Tene: which repo? |
| 00:09.42 | Tene | I added extras and livna. I'm really unsure which repo has wireshark-gnome in it. |
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| 00:10.40 | emcnabb | that's in core |
| 00:11.43 | Tene | thought it might be, but didn't think there would be such a problem with a core package |
| 00:12.46 | findlay | that's becuase it knows you're supposed to learn how to use libpcap |
| 00:14.37 | findlay | ~java findlay |
| 00:14.38 | ibot | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: findlay |
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| 00:28.18 | graphyx | ~onjoin herlo a/s/l? |
| 00:28.18 | ibot | ok, graphyx |
| 00:28.32 | herlo | graphyx: haha |
| 00:28.49 | graphyx | That's about the only responce I can think of when someone pops into a chat room and just says hi. |
| 00:28.57 | graphyx | cause it is alwasy strang. |
| 00:29.05 | graphyx | new person chat room 100 people and they just say hi. |
| 00:29.06 | mheath[laptop] | I really want to consolidate all my computers and equipment |
| 00:29.19 | mheath[laptop] | into two systems...a nice PC laptop and a Mac desktop. |
| 00:29.20 | graphyx | Are you planning on refinancing them all? |
| 00:29.25 | graphyx | ah.. makes sense. |
| 00:29.35 | herlo | graphyx: findlay set an onjoin, I hadn't cleared it yet |
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| 00:30.53 | graphyx | ~onjoin herlo why do you keep rejoining? |
| 00:30.53 | ibot | ok, graphyx |
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| 00:31.14 | herlo | graphyx, knock it off, I get it cleared, and you guys reset it... |
| 00:31.21 | graphyx | Soryr. |
| 00:31.21 | herlo | >:o |
| 00:31.26 | graphyx | I couldn't help that last one.. |
| 00:31.31 | herlo | that's why I keep rejoining |
| 00:31.34 | herlo | jerk |
| 00:31.37 | graphyx | admin it. It was funny. |
| 00:32.07 | graphyx | You might just have to make your sign on to freenode include a message to ibot to clear your onjoin. |
| 00:32.21 | graphyx | prior to joining the channel. |
| 00:32.38 | herlo | yeah, apparently |
| 00:32.46 | herlo | admin it is right!! |
| 00:32.54 | herlo | I'll never admit it was funny though |
| 00:32.56 | graphyx | what is right? |
| 00:33.30 | herlo | admin |
| 00:33.36 | herlo | that's what you said... |
| 00:33.40 | graphyx | right.. |
| 00:33.42 | herlo | (05:24:20 PM) graphyx: admin it. It was funny. |
| 00:33.46 | graphyx | ~whailslap graphyx |
| 00:33.50 | ibot | ACTION beets graphyx upside and oven the head with a freakishly huge and slightly mispelled kiler whail maned Hue. |
| 00:34.22 | herlo | graphyx: is there an easier way to clear onjoin than ~onjoin #utah -herlo? |
| 00:34.31 | graphyx | not that I know of. |
| 00:34.35 | herlo | k, tx |
| 00:34.36 | graphyx | I didn't even know that one way. |
| 00:34.42 | graphyx | but I do know. |
| 00:34.44 | herlo | how do you do it? |
| 00:34.51 | graphyx | umm.. I haven't. |
| 00:34.58 | graphyx | well I did once, but forgot. |
| 00:35.11 | herlo | ~onjoin graphyx I kill little mice and eat them for dinner |
| 00:35.11 | ibot | ok, herlo |
| 00:35.11 | graphyx | s/but I do know/but I do now/ |
| 00:35.18 | herlo | now figure it out, and let me know |
| 00:35.27 | herlo | ;) |
| 00:35.53 | emcnabb | ~grouphug |
| 00:35.55 | ibot | ACTION hugs everbody and makes it all better... |
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| 00:40.24 | herlo | woohoo |
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| 00:43.08 | graphyx | Anyone looking to get into computer security work with a large company? |
| 00:43.16 | graphyx | We have an opening on the threat team at Acxiom. |
| 00:44.53 | Tene | So, sftp client for MacOS? |
| 00:45.05 | graphyx | I am sure they are out there. |
| 00:45.18 | graphyx | ~google sftp client MacOS X |
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| 00:45.55 | Sargun | j #freenode |
| 00:46.13 | Sargun | ibot, Yes. |
| 00:46.14 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 00:47.02 | emcnabb | graphyx: mheath[laptop] is a hacker |
| 00:47.16 | graphyx | as in he coughs a lot? |
| 00:47.24 | Sargun | Kernel Hacker? |
| 00:47.34 | emcnabb | hurd hacker, computer cracker |
| 00:47.38 | Sargun | If the kernel was written in Java. |
| 00:48.06 | graphyx | oh.. we work with network security mainly. |
| 00:48.54 | emcnabb | this is a very interesting presentation |
| 00:49.22 | Sargun | emcnabb, Link, or some Red Hat classified stuff? |
| 00:49.33 | findlay | ~classify Sargun |
| 00:49.49 | emcnabb | http://linux.duke.edu/~skvidal/misc/yum-talk-slides.odp |
| 00:49.55 | emcnabb | non-Red Hat presentation |
| 00:50.14 | findlay | heh, good old yum |
| 00:50.56 | emcnabb | it has made a lot of progress over the last few releases |
| 00:51.05 | findlay | true |
| 00:51.34 | Sargun | You should really figure out a way to put them out of business. |
| 00:52.09 | graphyx | does anyone have a version of livehttp headers that works with ff 2.0? |
| 00:53.24 | herlo | graphyx: no, but you could use the addon that makes most of the ones that aren't compatible work... |
| 00:53.36 | herlo | it's called the Nightly Tester Tool |
| 00:53.43 | Sargun | Can I get self-destructing tapes from a gag shop? |
| 00:53.46 | graphyx | actually I couldn't get the nightly tested to work. |
| 00:53.52 | herlo | hmm |
| 00:53.53 | herlo | sorry |
| 00:53.55 | emcnabb | Sargun: put who out of business? |
| 00:54.00 | Sargun | emcnabb, hehe |
| 00:54.16 | graphyx | however I just searched and even though ff said there wasn't an update there was. |
| 00:54.16 | graphyx | So I am installing the later version. |
| 00:54.23 | Sargun | Wouldn't the easiest way to make one be to have the tape rip once it hits the end of the clip |
| 00:58.24 | graphyx | no. |
| 00:58.30 | graphyx | cause you can fix that. |
| 00:58.48 | graphyx | I would think you could do one that when the end of the tape jerks it sets off some type of incidiary. |
| 00:58.56 | graphyx | however you couldn't take them on an airplane. |
| 00:59.27 | graphyx | that would be an amusing parody to MI:1, the end of the show he watches the tape and it starts to smoke so the marshal puts a slug into him as a terrorist.. |
| 00:59.38 | Sargun | graphyx, Thats kind of illegal. |
| 00:59.54 | graphyx | you didn't ask for legal, you asked for self destructive tapes. |
| 01:00.01 | graphyx | OK how about this. |
| 01:00.15 | graphyx | It sets off an electro magentic pulse to erase the tape. |
| 01:00.32 | graphyx | That one is a little farther away than an incendiary. |
| 01:01.03 | Sargun | Could you build an EMP that size? |
| 01:01.10 | Sargun | that would fit in a tape? |
| 01:01.20 | graphyx | like I said. A bit harder to do that otherwise. |
| 01:01.28 | graphyx | Other thought would be hear. |
| 01:01.29 | graphyx | heat.. |
| 01:01.43 | graphyx | any other way to destroy the tape from the inside of it? |
| 01:02.56 | Sargun | goozbach would probably know a cool way to do this |
| 01:03.06 | Sargun | Well, I was thinking of the MI:X parody |
| 01:03.30 | graphyx | haven't seen it. |
| 01:03.38 | Sargun | err |
| 01:03.44 | Sargun | of a MI:X parody device |
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| 01:21.26 | harleypig | Can anyone recommend a good and inexpensive financial advisor in Utah County? Preferably in Provo/Orem or even Spanish Fork. |
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| 01:25.10 | emcnabb | harleypig: I would love to volunteer |
| 01:25.12 | emcnabb | I'm free |
| 01:25.24 | emcnabb | so, first, give me your primary checking account number |
| 01:25.32 | emcnabb | then savings |
| 01:25.49 | emcnabb | I'll "reinvest" your 401k and Roth IRA |
| 01:32.27 | Sargun | IN MI why do they put a strip on their throat? |
| 01:32.59 | Tene | Sargun: to change their voices. |
| 01:33.13 | Sargun | Ah. |
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| 01:43.17 | harleypig | emcnabb: uh huh |
| 01:43.32 | calvarez | emcnabb, uh huh |
| 01:43.38 | harleypig | have a good night ... going home. |
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| 02:47.07 | mheath[laptop] | wow, some minor changes to the gmail interface/ |
| 02:51.49 | mheath[laptop] | Hmmm. How bmuch do you think a 2Ghz AMD Sempron with 1GB + 128MB of ram, a 60 GB HDD, 14.1inch widescreen monitor would sell for? |
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| 03:25.34 | findlay | I'll give you $5 for it |
| 03:26.12 | nick125 | screw that, $10! |
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| 03:27.09 | findlay | $11! |
| 03:27.52 | nick125 | $11.02 |
| 03:28.08 | findlay | $1024 |
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| 03:33.42 | findlay | is it possible to buy a laptop without paying the windleblows tax? (even if its more?) |
| 03:35.13 | Chadbryant | There might be one or two notebook companies that will ship a no-OS system. |
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| 03:36.02 | findlay | who, where? |
| 03:36.17 | Chadbryant | I'm not sure. |
| 03:36.28 | Chadbryant | But if there isn't, there should be. |
| 03:36.48 | Chadbryant | I'd like to start a local shop here that does nothing with Windows - all OSS. |
| 03:37.38 | findlay | LS Micro used to have systems in their store that proudly ran FC |
| 03:37.56 | findlay | they were a good store |
| 03:39.31 | Chadbryant | I'm just tired of dealing with Windows, and I know a lot of other people are as well. |
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| 03:41.43 | findlay | me too |
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| 03:42.05 | findlay | and I absolutely refuse to buy a computer with windows preinstalled |
| 03:43.24 | levi_home | Yow. Looks like this is not the book for you if you want to learn OCaml: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-OCaml-Joshua-B-Smith/dp/159059620X |
| 03:44.33 | Chadbryant | I'm hald-tempted to wipe my HD to dump my Windows partition, and be done with Windows on this box. |
| 03:50.16 | Chadbryant | Er, half. |
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| 03:51.54 | levi_home | You could start a computer shop that didn't sell Windows if you wanted to start a stillborn business. |
| 03:52.20 | levi_home | Not my idea of a good way to dispense with my money, though. |
| 03:52.33 | mheath[laptop] | findlay, there are a few notebook companies that ship only linux companies. |
| 03:52.42 | mheath[laptop] | erm |
| 03:52.45 | mheath[laptop] | *ship only linux computers |
| 03:54.16 | levi_home | You could maybe run an online business that only sold Linux machines, but it would be pretty difficult to pay the rent for a local shop that way. |
| 03:54.44 | levi_home | I mean, PC shops that sell Windows boxes have a hard enough time. |
| 03:55.28 | mheath[laptop] | levi_home, I'm sure you could get away with it down in Silicon Valley area. |
| 03:55.32 | mheath[laptop] | Not here, though. |
| 03:55.42 | levi_home | Possibly there. |
| 03:57.48 | *** topic/#utah by mheath[laptop] -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah | Read http://plug.org/node/28 | Thanks for voting, here's the outcome: goozbach: 7 sjansen: -2 | Thank you to all of our veterans, who put it all on the line to make (and keep) this world a better place, and Hoorah to the Marine Corps (10 NOV 1775) |
| 03:58.54 | findlay | there are so many hand held devices out there that get it exactly *wrong* |
| 03:59.48 | Sargun | Yeah. |
| 03:59.50 | Sargun | I know. |
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| 04:01.04 | maquis | ~onjoin tensai /kick tensai |
| 04:01.04 | ibot | maquis: ok |
| 04:01.09 | findlay | Sargun: that means you can give me all your old ones |
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| 04:01.47 | Sargun | hahahah |
| 04:01.49 | Sargun | no. |
| 04:01.58 | Sargun | maquis, Will that work? |
| 04:02.07 | maquis | Sargun: no |
| 04:02.11 | maquis | unfortunately |
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| 04:03.21 | maquis | lol |
| 04:03.23 | Sargun | aw, thats all |
| 04:03.32 | Sargun | Well, add another bot |
| 04:03.37 | Sargun | which takes commands from ibot |
| 04:03.42 | findlay | ok, well why don't you think about it and when you're ready remember that I prefer FedEx |
| 04:05.12 | findlay | heh, ibot's servant |
| 04:05.49 | mheath[laptop] | findlay, just be glad you don't have to put up with faulty and non-intuitive credit card machines |
| 04:05.57 | mheath[laptop] | hand-held credit card machines* |
| 04:06.11 | mheath[laptop] | we have one we use when we go out to cars for the togo orders |
| 04:06.12 | findlay | *? |
| 04:06.17 | findlay | ~* |
| 04:06.26 | ibot | ACTION sings with $who |
| 04:06.26 | mheath[laptop] | But a lot of people seem to have a ton of problems with them... |
| 04:06.53 | findlay | ibot: * is whatever |
| 04:06.55 | ibot | ACTION sings with $who |
| 04:07.08 | findlay | ibot * is broken |
| 04:07.11 | ibot | ACTION sings with $who |
| 04:07.18 | mheath[laptop] | I had an older guy keep bumping the touchscreen today |
| 04:07.27 | mheath[laptop] | Eroneously gave me a $74.88 tip |
| 04:08.07 | mheath[laptop] | Then tried to sign, on the screen that said "ERROR: cannot connect to base device; would you like to store this transaction and authorize it later? Yes/No" |
| 04:08.48 | TimRiker | what did you do with ibot? |
| 04:08.53 | TimRiker | ibot: literal * |
| 04:08.56 | ibot | ACTION sings with $who |
| 04:09.40 | mheath[laptop] | TimRiker, some of them are broken like that |
| 04:10.33 | findlay | ibot: literal \* |
| 04:10.37 | mheath[laptop] | if theres a factoid that is title $var and you try to reassign it with "title is foo" then it assumes you wanted to set $var to "is foo" and outputs the original factoid |
| 04:14.20 | TimRiker | ~* |
| 04:14.23 | ibot | ACTION beats $foo mercilessly with a lead | |
| 04:15.43 | TimRiker | ~* |
| 04:15.45 | ibot | hmm... * is asterisk |
| 04:16.07 | TimRiker | ibot: literal * |
| 04:16.09 | ibot | "*" is "asterisk" |
| 04:16.28 | TimRiker | ok. stop abusing the poor bot. :) |
| 04:16.55 | mheath[laptop] | ~abuse TimRiker |
| 04:16.57 | ibot | ACTION smacks TimRiker across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 04:17.43 | findlay | ~shoot mheath[laptop] |
| 04:17.45 | ibot | ACTION shoots mheath[laptop] in the foot with a phase pistol! |
| 04:17.49 | TimRiker | ~bzfrag mheath[laptop] |
| 04:17.52 | ibot | ACTION squishes mheath[laptop] with a steamroller |
| 04:17.58 | mheath[laptop] | ~whaleslap findlay |
| 04:17.59 | ibot | ACTION beats findlay upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:18.07 | findlay | ~whaleambush mheath[laptop] |
| 04:18.08 | ibot | ACTION ambushes mheath[laptop] with Giovanni, a whale that's a bit too big to be a dagger |
| 04:18.17 | mheath[laptop] | ~whaleparry findlay |
| 04:18.18 | ibot | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry findlay's attacks. |
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| 05:06.13 | mheath | ~noise |
| 05:06.27 | mheath | ~conversation |
| 05:06.29 | ibot | So, how was your day? |
| 05:06.44 | mheath | ibot: Very good, thank you for asking. |
| 05:06.54 | mheath | ibot: How was your day? |
| 05:08.49 | mheath | ibot: How was your day? is <reply>Great, thank you for asking! |
| 05:08.50 | ibot | mheath: okay |
| 05:08.57 | mheath | ibot: How was your day? |
| 05:08.58 | ibot | Great, thank you for asking! |
| 05:09.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:09.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Poor mheath, so bored that he's talking with bots, and likewise teaching bots how to talk back |
| 05:10.44 | mheath | AntiSpamBot has quit ([Excess Flood]) |
| 05:11.24 | Chadbryant | ibot: Who's your daddy? is <reply> Yes, I am! |
| 05:11.27 | ibot | ...but who's your daddy is already something else... |
| 05:11.35 | Chadbryant | LOL |
| 05:11.43 | Chadbryant | ibot: Who's your daddy? |
| 05:11.44 | ibot | YOU are, Mr Sexy Pants! |
| 05:11.45 | mheath | ibot: who's your daddy? |
| 05:11.46 | ibot | YOU are, Mr Sexy Pants! |
| 05:11.49 | mheath | haha |
| 05:11.54 | Chadbryant | Nice. |
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| 05:12.06 | mentax | HI ALL |
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| 05:12.29 | mheath | mentax: HI. HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT? |
| 05:12.49 | mheath | mentax: I JUST FOUND SOMETHING INTERESTING ON MY KEYBOARD. |
| 05:12.54 | mentax | I'm ok |
| 05:13.09 | Sargun | ... |
| 05:13.12 | Sargun | mheath, Are you Ok? |
| 05:13.14 | mentax | I but I have day |
| 05:13.15 | mheath | IT'S THIS BUTTON I'VE NEVER NOTICED BEFORE, RIGHT ABOVE THE SHIFT KEY. IT SAYS "CAPS LOCK". WHAT DOES IT DO? |
| 05:13.35 | Sargun | You know your not supposed to be on IRC after you take your pain killers, right? |
| 05:13.41 | mheath | .... |
| 05:14.31 | mheath | Hmmm. But who is rich and spoiled and interested in technology? |
| 05:14.37 | mheath | Sargun: want to buy a laptop? |
| 05:14.43 | Sargun | I'm not buying a POS Compaq. |
| 05:15.01 | Sargun | I avoid those like the plague |
| 05:15.09 | mheath | A fully linux compatible AMD Sempron 3300+? |
| 05:15.22 | mheath | Everything from the wireless to the dialup modem is natively linux supported |
| 05:15.24 | mheath | I love it :) |
| 05:15.37 | Sargun | I like my IBM T60p better |
| 05:17.17 | mheath | I doubt your IBM T60P can begin to compare with this :) |
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| 05:21.36 | Sargun | Um... |
| 05:21.44 | Sargun | Dual core? |
| 05:21.47 | Sargun | 1.5 GB RAM? |
| 05:21.50 | Sargun | 100 GB HDD? |
| 05:21.52 | Sargun | TPM chip? |
| 05:21.58 | Sargun | Fingerprint reader? |
| 05:22.03 | Sargun | Little light on top? |
| 05:22.04 | Sargun | HDD parking? |
| 05:22.13 | Sargun | Pointing Stick? |
| 05:22.30 | Sargun | Strong enough to survive falling off my bed? |
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| 06:06.44 | Chadbryant | hi maquis |
| 06:09.44 | maquis | findlay: that's pretty impressive... particularly how it ignores spaces |
| 06:09.53 | findlay | YeAh |
| 06:10.21 | findlay | It'S uSeFuL iN oBfUsCaTiNg SeCrEt MeSsAgEs |
| 06:23.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Or just giving people serious headaches |
| 06:24.38 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: heh, just means you have a hard to read font |
| 06:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it's a pretty standard font. |
| 06:25.17 | findlay | why equate standard and easy to read? |
| 06:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | In this case, yes :) |
| 06:37.57 | findlay | Sargun: my laptop can fall all the way around the earth |
| 06:38.26 | vontrapp | anyoya use azureus and know where to find the setting to tell it to report an alternate address as where you're connectable to? |
| 06:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | vontrapp, sec |
| 06:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Tools --> Options, Tracker --> Client iirc |
| 06:40.23 | vontrapp | ScytheBlade1: thanks man, don't know why i couldn't find that, i went through every settings page about 10 times |
| 06:40.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I *think* that's it |
| 06:40.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Been a while since I've needed to use it though |
| 06:41.01 | vontrapp | it is, just where you said |
| 06:41.19 | vontrapp | do i have to use a 50xxx port? |
| 06:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 06:41.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Can use any port you so please |
| 06:41.55 | vontrapp | so 2286 will be fine |
| 06:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
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| 07:22.44 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.48 | Sargun | well |
| 07:22.58 | Sargun | How would you incorporate a black rose into a bouqet? |
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| 13:21.15 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
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| 15:25.11 | mheath | Good morning. |
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| 15:32.06 | mentax | Hi all |
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| 15:34.18 | emcnabb | mheath: good morning |
| 15:35.46 | mheath | Hmm. If anyone is interested in this laptop, let me know. |
| 15:36.35 | mentax | <mheath> how laptop you have? |
| 15:38.33 | mheath | mentax: An AMD Mobile Sempron 3300+ 2.0Ghz, 1152MB of RAM, ATI Radeon XPress 200M, 15.4" Widescreen |
| 15:38.39 | mheath | 801.11G Wireless, 60 GB HDD |
| 15:38.45 | mheath | $600. |
| 15:39.15 | mentax | Do you may send laptop to Kazakhstan? |
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| 15:41.58 | mheath | Yes, but I'm afraid I don't accept payment in Tenge. |
| 15:42.13 | mentax | dollars |
| 15:42.19 | mentax | or uero |
| 15:42.25 | mentax | euro |
| 15:43.32 | mheath | mentax: with customs fees, import charges, and a decent insurance on the package, it would probably cost another $150 for me to ship it there. It's not worth it. |
| 15:43.52 | vontrapp | i wouldn't mind that laptop, unfortuanatly my financial situation is very tight right now :( |
| 15:44.53 | graphyx | mheath: I then mentax wants a p-p-p-p-p-p-powerbook. |
| 15:44.54 | graphyx | http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/ |
| 15:45.06 | mheath | yeah, I've seen it :) |
| 15:45.11 | graphyx | Ok.. |
| 15:45.21 | mheath | I thought he was joking about being from Kazakhstan. Until I looked up his IP. |
| 15:45.29 | mheath | Thought we had a Borat impersonation. Hmmm. |
| 15:51.08 | mentax | I make payment with visa |
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| 15:53.18 | elg | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/47333937/article.pl |
| 15:53.25 | elg | ~bacon harleypig |
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| 15:55.46 | mheath | mentax: It is NOT WORTH IT. You'd be paying much more than this laptop is worth. |
| 15:56.07 | mheath | If you really live in Kazakhstan, jewel of economic growth and recovery, go buy a laptop. |
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| 16:00.03 | mheath | elg: thats awesome! |
| 16:00.06 | mheath | redbeard1: morning. |
| 16:00.16 | redbeard1 | morning |
| 16:01.30 | mheath | Hmmm. How good is the battery life on an Intel Core 2 Duo? |
| 16:01.33 | mheath | erm |
| 16:01.42 | mheath | Hmmm. How good is the battery life on a MacBook with Intel Core 2 Duo* |
| 16:02.09 | jsmith | No clue... buy me one and I'll let you know ;-) |
| 16:02.28 | mheath | I think I'm going to get one, after I sell my current laptop and save up a bit of money :) |
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| 16:15.57 | erins | asdf |
| 16:16.49 | Lone_Wanderer | jkl; |
| 16:17.44 | redbeard1 | xyzzy |
| 16:19.46 | graphyx | A hollow voice says, "Fool." |
| 16:20.47 | jsmith | graphyx: Talking to yourself again, eh? |
| 16:21.04 | graphyx | I have to tell myself that on a daily basis to remember to learn. |
| 16:21.09 | redbeard1 | i love the new ubuntu live cd's |
| 16:21.26 | redbeard1 | i gave one to the secretary at the dentist's office this morning |
| 16:21.39 | redbeard1 | she was pretty excited about it |
| 16:22.13 | atoponce | redbeard1: at the dentist? haha. wow. that's cool |
| 16:22.55 | redbeard1 | yeah... at my last appt, i brought ubuntu hacks to read in the waiting room, and it sparked discussion |
| 16:23.06 | atoponce | that's awesome. |
| 16:23.21 | redbeard1 | she'd actually heard of linux... her son told her to try it, but she didn't want to wait to download all the cd's for a regular distro |
| 16:23.55 | atoponce | Lone_Wanderer: aoeuidhtns |
| 16:23.57 | redbeard1 | so i promised i'd bring her a copy... and at plug on wed, christer edwards brought in _stacks_ of 6.10 discs |
| 16:24.21 | atoponce | yeah. i'm looking forward to getting them. are they pressed? |
| 16:24.29 | redbeard1 | yeah |
| 16:24.30 | mheath | I have about 100 6.6 disks :P |
| 16:24.33 | mheath | Obsolete |
| 16:24.47 | atoponce | mheath: 6.06? not at all |
| 16:25.00 | atoponce | they're still available on shipit |
| 16:25.10 | redbeard1 | i even gave harley a copy of kubuntu 6.10 to try and recover his notebook, which he so gracefully hosed |
| 16:25.11 | atoponce | and will be until the next lts |
| 16:25.18 | mheath | atoponce: want some? |
| 16:25.37 | atoponce | heck yeah! i'll take 'em all, if you want |
| 16:25.47 | atoponce | 6.06 or 6.06.1? |
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| 16:26.00 | mheath | 6.06 I believe |
| 16:26.13 | atoponce | cool. how many? |
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| 16:26.29 | maquis | good |
| 16:26.40 | mheath | ~kick maquis |
| 16:26.44 | ibot | bugger off, mheath! |
| 16:26.44 | atoponce | maquis: aoeuidhtns |
| 16:26.48 | maquis | atoponce: huh? |
| 16:27.01 | atoponce | 09:14 < erins> asdf |
| 16:28.03 | maquis | ah |
| 16:28.27 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 16:28.38 | maquis | me was going to learn dvorak... but then it seemed like it'd be too much trouble with the vim movement stuff not being all together |
| 16:29.08 | atoponce | you can rebind the keys, although, i use the arrows to get around... |
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| 16:30.28 | mheath | yah. I'll have a MacBook in just a few weeks :) |
| 16:30.28 | atoponce | in vim anyway. i don't use vi |
| 16:30.28 | mheath | Dual booting Mac OS X and Linux :) |
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| 16:34.56 | atoponce | thank you christel... :S |
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| 16:34.57 | mheath | If I can sell this current laptop first :( |
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| 16:38.04 | atoponce | it's like an earthquake |
| 16:38.04 | maquis | yeah... except the aftershocks are just as bad as the earthquake itself |
| 16:38.04 | atoponce | redbeard1 broke the tubes |
| 16:38.05 | graphyx | -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, just a quick note to let you know I will be doing some quick rehubbing of our European servers in a moment. It should all be quick and painfree. Please hang in there while we jump and thank you for using freenode! |
| 16:38.05 | graphyx | That is what caused all that. |
| 16:38.05 | atoponce | yeah |
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| 16:39.15 | graphyx | I never said that I didn't blame redbeard1 |
| 16:39.58 | atoponce | graphyx: he's guilty. the whole "cooking" thing is just a coverup of his ties to the gnaa |
| 16:41.03 | mheath | ~blame redbeard1 |
| 16:41.05 | ibot | ACTION blames redbeard1 (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 16:42.05 | graphyx | and canada!! that's rich. |
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| 16:43.47 | scothoser | Morning all! |
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| 16:50.23 | redbeard1 | ~lart neybar |
| 16:50.44 | graphyx | ~rlart |
| 16:52.13 | mheath | My dad is trying to make me feel guilty for wanting to sell something he gave to me as a present (this laptop) and use the money to upgrade to someting nicer. |
| 16:53.56 | mheath | "So you think my present is worthless, right?" |
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| 17:03.58 | elg | quass must have stopped working for the church? http://csaa.byu.edu/article/2006-10-23-computer_science_alum_honored_by_the_college_of_physical_and_mathematical_sciences_during_homecoming_week |
| 17:04.05 | elg | or do they let them have beards? |
| 17:12.09 | Lone_Wanderer | RewriteRule ^/invoices/?([^/]*)/?([^/]*)/?([^/]*)/?([^/]*)/? /invoices/index.php?year=$1&month=$2&day=$3&detail=$4 [PT] |
| 17:12.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Anyone see a problem with that? |
| 17:14.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Actually maybe the way I'm going about this is completely wrong. |
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| 17:29.18 | Keighvin | ~lart SB I-15 |
| 17:31.20 | findlay | ~shoot WB I-15 |
| 17:31.22 | ibot | ACTION shoots WB I-15 in the head with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 17:31.36 | Keighvin | WB? When does I-15 ever go West? |
| 17:36.06 | ^Migs^ | IAW Keighvin |
| 17:38.33 | scothoser | Doesn't I-15 head west down in Nevada? Or is that south-west? |
| 17:39.16 | herlo | scothoser: southwest |
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| 17:56.39 | ^Migs^ | hahaha: Two US students are suing a film studio claiming they were duped into appearing in spoof movie Borat starring Sacha Baron Cohen as a Kazakh journalist. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6136944.stm |
| 18:01.23 | findlay | debian is wonderful |
| 18:04.16 | findlay | ~shoot SWB I-15 |
| 18:04.17 | ibot | ACTION shoots SWB I-15 in the head with a cork gun! |
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| 18:07.24 | maquis | if i'm using ColorfulTabs extension in firefox, is there a way to make it shrink the tabs so they're not so big? |
| 18:07.46 | maquis | (long, i mean) |
| 18:07.50 | maquis | (firefox 2.0) |
| 18:07.54 | maquis | or is that theme-related? |
| 18:08.16 | Keighvin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRo |
| 18:11.27 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 18:16.33 | emcnabb | very cool |
| 18:20.10 | Keighvin | And another time waster: http://www.vidly.net/video-poor-mans-ipod.html |
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| 18:20.25 | elg | does uphill down still make excellent backpacks? |
| 18:20.52 | elg | the zippers on my 10-year-old pack are finally too shot. Either need to fix the zippers or replace the pack |
| 18:21.02 | redbeard1 | http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2006/11/robot_identifie.html |
| 18:21.17 | Keighvin | Yay! Bacon! |
| 18:21.20 | elg | is that the bacon one? |
| 18:21.21 | nick125 | damnit! I want them to hook my new xmission line up...like...now!! |
| 18:21.22 | elg | mmmmm, bacon |
| 18:21.26 | redbeard1 | yeah, did you see it already? |
| 18:21.35 | nick125 | hahah silly robots :P |
| 18:21.41 | elg | yeah. i think they're missing an important detail |
| 18:21.44 | elg | it's reporters that taste like bacon |
| 18:21.49 | Keighvin | Or cheese. |
| 18:21.57 | elg | camera men taste like prosciutto |
| 18:21.58 | Keighvin | Wait, I guess that's camera men. |
| 18:22.05 | redbeard1 | well, only the reporter tasted like bacon. the cameraman was prosciutto |
| 18:22.07 | redbeard1 | yeah |
| 18:22.09 | elg | wonder what coders taste like |
| 18:22.16 | nick125 | caffiene? :P |
| 18:22.25 | redbeard1 | pork soda |
| 18:22.29 | nick125 | lol |
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| 18:22.41 | redbeard1 | oh man. now i need to listen to primus. |
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| 18:36.53 | graphyx | So what does the beatbox guy do if he wants to play more than one sound at a time? |
| 18:36.59 | graphyx | I mean other than two windows.. |
| 18:38.30 | Keighvin | It's similar to the old MOD/S3M tracker method of creating pseudo PCM synth, replaying the snippet of the digitized source to create the desired tone. |
| 18:38.31 | graphyx | "I can neither play the piano nor the drums.." awesome. |
| 18:39.05 | Keighvin | Only with tasty video overlay. :) |
| 18:39.39 | graphyx | right.. |
| 18:40.14 | graphyx | very? |
| 18:42.36 | emcnabb | very |
| 18:43.04 | elg | which would you get? http://www.uphill.com/product.php?prodcode=368&category=professional+cases&subcategory=shoulder+bags or http://www.uphill.com/product.php?prodcode=316&category=professional+cases&subcategory=shoulder+bags#ProductDescription |
| 18:43.09 | elg | ? |
| 18:45.09 | nick125 | I personally like #368 better |
| 18:48.46 | Sargun | pelican.com |
| 18:49.35 | Sargun | Zero Haliburton looks cool too. |
| 18:49.41 | Sargun | mezzi too. |
| 18:50.22 | Sargun | http://mezzi.com/product.php?id=1&prodid=66 < I just need handcuffs |
| 18:52.23 | Jayce^ | elg, you have the 12 or 14" ibook? |
| 18:52.29 | elg | 13" macbook soon |
| 18:52.34 | Jayce^ | oooh, special :-p |
| 18:52.41 | elg | soon = who knows when |
| 18:52.46 | Jayce^ | heh |
| 18:52.53 | elg | I have the 12" now |
| 18:53.04 | Jayce^ | so the smaller bag is technically the same size then, but probably just a little too small |
| 18:53.15 | Jayce^ | well, wait, that's height.. nm |
| 18:53.25 | elg | I realize now my question was moot. I didn't notice the fatal design flaw of the princeton bag. I will not tolerate having to clip silly clips just so I can pick up the bag by the top handle |
| 18:53.58 | Jayce^ | clips for the top handle? |
| 18:53.59 | elg | thanks for your help :) I hope this new bag lasts 10 years like the last one did |
| 18:54.10 | Jayce^ | you mean the two handles? |
| 18:54.22 | elg | see how 316 has a handle connected to that top flap |
| 18:54.29 | Jayce^ | oh yeah, that woudl bug me too |
| 18:54.32 | elg | if the clips aren't in place you can't pick it up by that handle |
| 18:54.36 | elg | without dumping your bag. :) |
| 18:54.46 | Jayce^ | or just swinging it funny |
| 18:54.48 | elg | my current bag has two handles like the 368 |
| 18:56.50 | Sargun | I need to get a dual locked briefcase, aluminum, bunch of loose wires, a counter, and a beeper when the counter hits 0 |
| 18:57.34 | Sargun | http://www.zerohalliburton.com/computers/aluminum/deluxe/DZ7LSI.jsp < oooh |
| 18:57.36 | Sargun | perty! |
| 18:58.38 | Sargun | oh, no, don't look at the price. |
| 18:59.01 | Keighvin | ~weaselstomp Jayce^ |
| 18:59.10 | ibot | ACTION dons a viking helm, spreads some mayonnaise, and gives Jayce^ a good hard STOMP. Repeatedly. |
| 18:59.10 | emcnabb | look at the price! |
| 18:59.12 | jsmith | Sargun: Nice, but not *that* nice. |
| 18:59.44 | Sargun | yeah. |
| 19:00.01 | Sargun | I want something thats preferably bullet proof |
| 19:00.12 | Sargun | Teenager-proof. |
| 19:00.27 | Sargun | even harder |
| 19:01.59 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:03.18 | nick125 | Sargun: pm |
| 19:03.30 | Sargun | didn't get any |
| 19:03.48 | nick125 | Sargun: get it yet? :P |
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| 19:04.16 | Sargun | haha |
| 19:05.25 | ^Migs^ | Sargun: YOU |
| 19:05.40 | ^Migs^ | aren't you that guy I don't like? |
| 19:06.01 | ^Migs^ | I have too many nemeses |
| 19:06.18 | nick125 | ^Migs^: probably :p |
| 19:06.24 | Sargun | Everyone loves me. |
| 19:06.42 | elg | -lart Jayce^ |
| 19:06.51 | Sargun | Its probably mheath, he makes all sorts of enemies. Keeps poisoning his customer's food. |
| 19:06.53 | ^Migs^ | well, gth at any rate |
| 19:07.09 | elg | goth? |
| 19:07.13 | ^Migs^ | diaf and all that |
| 19:07.46 | elg | sure |
| 19:07.47 | elg | whatever |
| 19:08.18 | elg | mheath: you'll be happy to know my new backpack is of the model titled Semper Fi |
| 19:09.32 | Sargun | I saw that |
| 19:16.30 | Sargun | How do you free swap up, I remember there was a utility for it. |
| 19:16.55 | Keighvin | Preferably, by killing anything which was using it. |
| 19:16.58 | elg | swapoff? |
| 19:17.10 | Keighvin | Terminating the processes and cleaning up behind them. |
| 19:17.53 | elg | i expect reports on everyone's no-knead bread |
| 19:18.00 | elg | in latex |
| 19:18.05 | elg | with graphs |
| 19:18.22 | elg | especially redbeard1 |
| 19:18.24 | elg | ~glare redbeard1 |
| 19:18.25 | ibot | ACTION glares at redbeard1 |
| 19:21.59 | Jayce^ | lol |
| 19:22.06 | Jayce^ | elg, you'd like my ward activity this weekend |
| 19:22.16 | Jayce^ | it's kinda a food storage challenge |
| 19:22.24 | elg | oh, I'm good at storing food |
| 19:22.37 | Jayce^ | the 'teams' have to carry sacks of wheat etc through obstacle courses.. |
| 19:22.41 | Jayce^ | water too |
| 19:22.54 | Jayce^ | once at the end, they ahve to use everything they brought to make bread from scratch |
| 19:23.16 | elg | sweet. do they have to grind the flower with rocks? |
| 19:23.44 | elg | and make fire from nothing? |
| 19:23.52 | elg | and build an oven... |
| 19:23.54 | Jayce^ | well, they do have to hand grind |
| 19:23.59 | elg | hmm, that would be quite the event. :) |
| 19:25.58 | Keighvin | Jayce^ will be helping to provide "motivation" during the obstacle course by laying down suppressing fire. |
| 19:26.11 | Sargun | lol |
| 19:26.55 | elg | "keep the wheat safe! Don't let him get any paint on it. Do you want pink bread!? |
| 19:26.56 | Sargun | Jayce^, who came up with this idea/ |
| 19:27.01 | elg | keep the lid on the water!" |
| 19:30.32 | atoponce | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/100851.aspx |
| 19:30.58 | Jayce^ | Sargun, not sure, think a hybrid of emergency prep group, and activities committee |
| 19:31.11 | Jayce^ | they wanted something with food storage, that didn't actually say it |
| 19:31.21 | Jayce^ | titled as "Strongman Competition" |
| 19:33.31 | Sargun | lol |
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| 19:40.16 | Keighvin | You think your strong soldier!? Let's see if you can stomach your own cooking! |
| 19:42.10 | Sargun | Haha. |
| 19:43.35 | *** join/#utah bonez41 (n=aint@c-67-166-77-14.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:52.02 | bonez41 | boo |
| 19:52.53 | Sargun | ? |
| 19:54.00 | bonez41 | just feel caged....boys are off school....I can't leave and go to my office....can't see patients until this afternoon....frustrated |
| 19:56.13 | Sargun | Why not? |
| 19:57.29 | elg | he's in a cage |
| 19:57.31 | Sargun | Why can't you leave until later today? |
| 19:58.03 | bonez41 | they are 10, 8 and 6...if I leave them all at home...alone...I might come home to find they are gone, or they burned the house down, so I can't leave them |
| 19:58.11 | bonez41 | Sargun, no kids yet, I take it? ? |
| 19:58.19 | elg | ok, now WHY will it take unison half an hour to copy 100 MB to my mp3 player? |
| 19:58.28 | Sargun | I'm kind of 15... |
| 19:59.50 | Sargun | X25-216-1534 |
| 19:59.51 | Sargun | ok. |
| 20:00.06 | Sargun | bonez41, Well, if they are off to school....? |
| 20:00.08 | bonez41 | Sargun, you are 15? wow...I am jealous...wish I knew the little bit I now know, at age 15 |
| 20:00.28 | bonez41 | no school, see the district likes to punish parents..and let them out several days during the year......for no good reason |
| 20:01.00 | Sargun | Heheh. |
| 20:01.34 | Sargun | Have you tried the baby sitters? |
| 20:01.43 | Sargun | (a.k.a. the teenage girl down the street) |
| 20:03.13 | bonez41 | my wife spoiled them all..they want 7 bucks an hour...I am better off hanging out here...besides..can't find anyone at this late date...to watch them |
| 20:03.20 | bonez41 | no teenage girls down my street |
| 20:04.00 | Sargun | Your city is in serious lack of teenage girls |
| 20:04.09 | Sargun | its usually $2 a kid here. |
| 20:04.28 | bonez41 | well, we have three kids..so that's at minimum $6 per hour |
| 20:04.54 | *** join/#utah Mystery_Mark (n=none@63.194.187.135) |
| 20:04.57 | Mystery_Mark | BONG!!!! |
| 20:04.58 | Sargun | thats not even minimum wage -_- |
| 20:05.02 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, hiya |
| 20:05.10 | Mystery_Mark | oops |
| 20:05.23 | Sargun | 6.75 minimum wage.... |
| 20:05.24 | Mystery_Mark | Shoot |
| 20:05.30 | bonez41 | Sargun, so paying 6 per hour for three boys to watch them..is ripping off the sitters? |
| 20:05.30 | Sargun | I'm sure you don't wanna be sued :-P |
| 20:05.32 | Mystery_Mark | who's using my Phishy name!!! |
| 20:05.55 | Mystery_Mark | I'm going to hunt him/her/bot down and stab it in the eye! |
| 20:05.58 | bonez41 | sued? the law has no hold on issues about paying someone to tend one's children......dang...lawyer talk..... |
| 20:06.16 | Sargun | bonez41, All my friends who baby sit have NO idea that minimum wage applies to them |
| 20:06.22 | Mystery_Mark | Actually, it you get state assistance it's a minimum of 4 dollars an hour. |
| 20:06.31 | Mystery_Mark | I'm a single father, I know that mcuh. |
| 20:06.49 | Sargun | As long as its all cash they can't really find out... |
| 20:07.09 | Sargun | Get a contract written up. |
| 20:07.24 | Mystery_Mark | Contracts are awsome. |
| 20:07.27 | Sargun | :-P |
| 20:07.31 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, No, they aren't. |
| 20:07.42 | Mystery_Mark | Yes, they are. Contracts and Protective Orders. |
| 20:07.45 | Sargun | bonez41, Whats utahnian minimum wage? |
| 20:07.49 | bonez41 | not sure for utah |
| 20:07.52 | Mystery_Mark | 5.15 |
| 20:08.07 | Sargun | OUCH! |
| 20:08.26 | Mystery_Mark | Although McD's will give you 7.50 |
| 20:08.34 | Sargun | again, ouch. |
| 20:08.35 | Sargun | again, ouch. |
| 20:08.47 | Mystery_Mark | I can't believe I used to work for that much. Seems like a joke compared to my current salary. |
| 20:08.49 | Sargun | Its $13.00 here at in-and-out. |
| 20:09.10 | Sargun | I'd get fired working at McDonalds |
| 20:09.16 | Sargun | I suck at fast food services |
| 20:09.23 | Sargun | mainly the fast part. |
| 20:09.26 | Mystery_Mark | I couldn't pay my utility bill on 7.50 / 40 hours a week. |
| 20:09.43 | Sargun | Google Ads pay better than that |
| 20:09.46 | mheath | Mystery_Mark: Since when does McD's pay their workers 7.50? |
| 20:09.47 | bonez41 | in an out burger? |
| 20:09.48 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, What are you now? |
| 20:09.56 | Sargun | bonez41, Yes sir. |
| 20:09.58 | mheath | Mystery_Mark: my friend made 6.50 there. |
| 20:10.05 | bonez41 | I wish in-n-out would come to utah..... |
| 20:10.06 | Mystery_Mark | I manage a Developement Lap for Network General. |
| 20:10.09 | Sargun | mheath, Maybe your friend wasn't well qualified. |
| 20:10.19 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, Thats a small jump ;-) |
| 20:10.20 | Mystery_Mark | in-n-out will never come to Utah. |
| 20:10.28 | mheath | Sargun: Well, unless he was taking about a management position, theres not much to be qualified in. |
| 20:10.28 | bonez41 | What does one develop in a development Lap............or was that a Lab? |
| 20:10.34 | Sargun | bonez41, Move up to california. |
| 20:10.45 | bonez41 | I know a few things one can cook up in one's lap... |
| 20:10.50 | Sargun | mheath, Patty frying. |
| 20:10.57 | mheath | Yes, bonez41, move to California, where your money can be worth half as much! |
| 20:11.03 | Sargun | mheath, Yes! |
| 20:11.19 | Mystery_Mark | I manage a "computer farm" aka Lab, that developers in Utah, San Jose, and Bangelor all use for developement and QA testing. |
| 20:11.36 | Sargun | San Jose -- I was supposed to go there today, but nooooo! my 'rents wouldn't let me |
| 20:12.10 | mheath | Would it have have been too difficult to press those two additional keys, Sargun? |
| 20:12.29 | Sargun | No, but I like 'rents better than parents |
| 20:12.47 | mheath | Sargun: where do you work? |
| 20:12.49 | Mystery_Mark | I want to kill my "rents" |
| 20:13.03 | Mystery_Mark | I pay my rent late by one day and I get a $100 late fee. |
| 20:13.17 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, That gets you arrested |
| 20:13.40 | Mystery_Mark | More of a figure of irspeech. |
| 20:13.56 | Sargun | If you live in oakland |
| 20:14.00 | Sargun | they'd take that seriously |
| 20:14.03 | mheath | Sargun: where do you work? |
| 20:14.14 | Mystery_Mark | Have you guys seen the LA Cops beating on YouTube? |
| 20:14.23 | Sargun | I own Atarack, thats my "job" |
| 20:14.35 | mheath | Heh. |
| 20:14.41 | Mystery_Mark | Atarack? wtf |
| 20:14.42 | Sargun | mheath, and I on retainer for a small restaurant company for their computer systems |
| 20:14.47 | mheath | Mystery_Mark: The "famous decades ago" LA Cops beatings? |
| 20:14.50 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, VPS provider |
| 20:15.02 | Mystery_Mark | No, the famous several months ago LA beating. |
| 20:15.14 | nick125 | yeah, Sargun and myself run atarack.. |
| 20:15.23 | Mystery_Mark | .com? |
| 20:15.30 | Sargun | yessir |
| 20:15.32 | mheath | "<Sargun> mheath, and I on retainer for a small restaurant" == "My dad's friends with the owner, and he calls me when their one computer won't start." |
| 20:15.54 | Sargun | mheath, more like when they run out of HDD space |
| 20:16.03 | Sargun | so I can install another TB raid array |
| 20:16.19 | mheath | Since when does a restraunt need 1TB of space? |
| 20:16.20 | Mystery_Mark | are you guys using cpanel? |
| 20:16.24 | Sargun | I converted their office to paperless, but its about 50 MB for each report they scan. |
| 20:16.27 | Mystery_Mark | or what is your backend? |
| 20:16.35 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, Its a VPS, not a shared host. |
| 20:16.37 | nick125 | Mystery_Mark: we're using Xen to control the VPSes |
| 20:16.43 | nick125 | well, xen is the technology |
| 20:16.54 | Mystery_Mark | What kind of hardware are you using? |
| 20:16.57 | nick125 | we have our custom control panel to control the VPSes (reboot, etc) |
| 20:17.09 | nick125 | dual xeons |
| 20:17.18 | Mystery_Mark | Dell, IBM, Custom? |
| 20:17.19 | bonez41 | is you use xen..do you have to pay licensing to Novell? |
| 20:17.54 | nick125 | bonez41: Xen is open-source |
| 20:17.54 | Sargun | Mystery_Mark, 6GB Ram/4x3.8 Xeons/Sata HDD |
| 20:17.54 | nick125 | Mystery_Mark: Dell |
| 20:17.54 | bonez41 | Sargun, sounds like a killer set |
| 20:18.02 | Sargun | bonez41, If you go with XenSource's professional product you gotta pay. |
| 20:18.22 | nick125 | and XenEnterprise wouldn't fit our needs |
| 20:18.30 | nick125 | it has a windows interface to xen, thats it |
| 20:18.32 | bonez41 | Sargun, but why would one have to go with the pro product? |
| 20:18.36 | nick125 | (basically) |
| 20:18.41 | Sargun | mheath, First of all its a 7 million dollar restaurant chain... |
| 20:18.54 | Sargun | bonez41, and support, and early patches, and custom patchery, etc.. |
| 20:18.57 | nick125 | bonez41: the xenenterprise product is a "point and click" xen |
| 20:19.11 | Mystery_Mark | What kind of customer demo uses VPS? |
| 20:19.26 | mheath | Sargun: funny, because you said it was a small restraunt just a second ago. |
| 20:19.39 | bonez41 | Sargun, so if one is OK with getting one's hands dirty..then it's ok to jsut use the open source xen .... |
| 20:19.46 | Sargun | mheath, that is VERY small |
| 20:19.48 | nick125 | bonez41: pretty much |
| 20:20.11 | mheath | Sargun: 7 million dollars in profits? Not really. |
| 20:20.22 | bonez41 | nick125, does xen include email server.....to compete with the likes of exchange server? |
| 20:21.04 | nick125 | bonez41: xen gives you root access |
| 20:21.14 | nick125 | so you can install whatever kind of email server you want |
| 20:21.16 | Sargun | mheath, 7 million in assets |
| 20:21.34 | nick125 | all Xen is a virtualization product |
| 20:21.42 | mheath | Mystery_Mark: You're talking to a rich 15 year old who got some money from his dad to rent out a few servers in a colocation facility. I'm not sure he can answer questions about customer demographics and such. |
| 20:21.51 | Sargun | bonez41, Its like taking your computer, and selling it to a hosting company |
| 20:22.12 | Sargun | mheath, I am not supposed to disclose information about the customers |
| 20:22.16 | mheath | ..... |
| 20:22.19 | nick125 | mheath: why are you arguing with Sargun? |
| 20:22.25 | Sargun | and by the way: Atarack is totally self-sufficient |
| 20:22.36 | mheath | Sargun: do you even understand what a demographic is? |
| 20:22.41 | Sargun | I poured my savings into it... |
| 20:22.48 | mheath | I fail to see how discussing customer demographics would be a violation of customer privacy. |
| 20:22.54 | nick125 | guys, do each other a favor: /ignore |
| 20:23.08 | bonez41 | demographics.....who, where, what.....when..it's about people...who they are and keeping track of them |
| 20:23.22 | Sargun | mheath, What do you have against me? |
| 20:24.06 | mheath | Sargun: not a thing. |
| 20:25.02 | Sargun | Ok. |
| 20:25.28 | Sargun | bonez41, Its like colocation, except your not responsible for the hardware |
| 20:25.32 | nick125 | Sargun: more like a dedicated |
| 20:25.38 | mheath | Sargun: There is a problem with this website's security certificate. We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this website." |
| 20:25.43 | bonez41 | is it fair to say that xen is like vmware or win4lin on steroids? |
| 20:26.03 | nick125 | bonez41: you could say that, yeah |
| 20:26.04 | Sargun | VMWare on Speed |
| 20:26.11 | Sargun | Speed with a very very long half-life |
| 20:26.21 | Sargun | something like a 14 day half-life |
| 20:28.57 | Sargun | mheath, Just because your parents weren't as successful as mine doesn't mean you can't do great things too. |
| 20:29.28 | mheath | ...... |
| 20:30.10 | Sargun | 25 * 1000 * 360 = approximate profits. |
| 20:30.23 | mheath | Holy crap. I believe I just had a 15 year old who's never even had a real job in his life and goes to highschool talk down to me in the most condenscending, snobbish attitude I've ever heard. |
| 20:30.42 | mheath | And you ask why I don't like you. |
| 20:30.46 | mheath | I'm freakin amazed. Just...wow. |
| 20:30.47 | Sargun | mheath, Does age really matter? |
| 20:30.56 | Keighvin | mheath: We know exactly how you feel, although it's more typically a 17-year-old. |
| 20:30.57 | mheath | I've never heard anything that rude and stupid at the same time. |
| 20:31.22 | nick125 | mheath, Sargun: just use /ignore |
| 20:31.24 | Keighvin | Really? I'm sure we could pull some of your statements out of the logs... |
| 20:32.02 | mheath | Keighvin: Except I've had a real job. And made real money. I work 40+ hours a week, and I'm totally self sufficient. |
| 20:32.14 | Sargun | and you live with your parents |
| 20:32.21 | bonez41 | mheath, I think you misunderstand sargun.... |
| 20:32.22 | Sargun | Like me |
| 20:32.26 | Sargun | and your a minor, like me... |
| 20:32.31 | mheath | Keighvin: And when do I talk down to people like I'm royalty trying to be encouraging to the proletariat that I really hate? |
| 20:32.41 | bonez41 | age is irrelevant in today's world.......when it comes to intelligence...and computer knowledge... |
| 20:33.27 | bonez41 | only time age matters is when it's a 45 year old idiot, chatting with another 45 yo with a badge and a tendancy to DECEIVE...at the point they meet at the airport..a.nd the idiot finds out his friend is a guy and not a 13 year old girl...then age matters |
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| 20:34.57 | Mystery_Mark | lol |
| 20:35.00 | Mystery_Mark | thats awsome |
| 20:35.20 | mheath | Oh, don't worry, worthless piece of scum! I know you don't have a nice pile of cash to play in in the back yard, but theres still plenty of opportunities! |
| 20:35.30 | Sargun | Ok. |
| 20:35.58 | Keighvin | mheath: Just because the exact circumstances haven't been reproduced doesn't mean you haven't failed to be condescending and insulting. |
| 20:36.04 | bonez41 | what I never can understand is why, after so much publicity is showered on such cases..do old pervy men, still trot off to the airport...thinking they will meet their dream girl...of 13....it's always 13 years old....ever notice in every story.... |
| 20:36.34 | bonez41 | mheath, what the hell..you are usually nice and courteous and not easily ruffled... |
| 20:37.38 | emcnabb | bonez41: he is easily ruffled |
| 20:37.40 | mheath | bonez41: Do you talk to me on here? |
| 20:37.41 | Keighvin | bonze41: You're being sarcastic, right? |
| 20:38.08 | mheath | People I know in person would definately agree with that, but your the only person I know on IRC that would say that |
| 20:38.16 | emcnabb | mheath: I find it funny how condescending you are to Sargun; most people here see you two as very similar |
| 20:38.23 | mheath | And I'm fine. I'm a lot more blunt, to the point, and opinionated on IRC than I am in person. |
| 20:38.35 | mheath | It's OK with me of I ruffle some feathers. |
| 20:38.38 | Mystery_Mark | ROFL |
| 20:38.38 | Mystery_Mark | <DebsD> sorry |
| 20:38.38 | Mystery_Mark | <DebsD> but LMAO |
| 20:38.38 | Mystery_Mark | <Phishy> Yah |
| 20:38.38 | Mystery_Mark | <Phishy> Then last night she was yelling at me because we signed a bi-weekly rotating agreement for when amd who has Sawyer, but she wants me to take him on the same days every week so that she can work. I told her if she didn't like the mediation agreement, she needed to get a new one. Then she went on to say that if I didn't pick him up right then she would leave him on my doorstep, and that she didn't want to be his mother because of me. |
| 20:38.43 | Mystery_Mark | <Phishy> She said she regrets ever getting back with me, and that "maybe it was a blessing that I took custody". |
| 20:38.44 | Mystery_Mark | <Phishy> LOL |
| 20:38.46 | Mystery_Mark | <Phishy> She's soooo fucked up. |
| 20:38.48 | Mystery_Mark | damn sorry |
| 20:38.50 | Mystery_Mark | wrong window |
| 20:38.55 | Sargun | language! |
| 20:39.14 | Mystery_Mark | i said sorry |
| 20:39.24 | Mystery_Mark | I ment to put that in the other window. |
| 20:39.28 | bonez41 | mheath, I have in the past....occasionally |
| 20:39.37 | bonez41 | Keighvin, a little sarcasm |
| 20:40.07 | mheath | I think a lot of you would be surprised if you met me in person, though |
| 20:40.18 | mheath | Because I _am_ a polite, curteous, friendly, and very nice person. |
| 20:40.28 | mheath | Or try to be, at least. |
| 20:40.35 | emcnabb | mheath: then why aren't you here? |
| 20:40.38 | Sargun | Your nice? You told your X-girlfriend to F*** off in IRC |
| 20:40.54 | Keighvin | mheath: The quality of a person is gestalt - if you lack the integrity to be honest (with yourself and others) in all circumstances I have to seriously doubt your character. |
| 20:41.39 | mheath | Keighvin: still basing that on a misinterpretation of something I said late one night when I had a little too much to drink? |
| 20:41.43 | mheath | I AM honest on here, too. |
| 20:42.12 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 20:42.52 | bonez41 | 1. Ge|stalt, die; -, -en [mhd. gestalt = Aussehen, Beschaffenheit; Person, Substantivierung von: gestalt, ahd. gistalt, 2. Part. ... |
| 20:45.14 | mheath | Keighvin: I was in intense pain and barely able to walk when I went to the doctors. My point was that, in hindsight, that was exageration, weakness. If I had just kept my mouth shut for a tiny bit, things would have gotten better and there would be no problem. By reporting it, I exagerated it into something that would get me sent home, when it turns out there wasn't any need for that. |
| 20:46.11 | nick125 | mheath: here's my question: why do you keep commenting and bashing Sargun/Atarack when he isn't even talking to you? |
| 20:46.42 | mheath | I really don't want to talk about that. I promised to not bring up anything about what happened to me in the Marine Corps, or down in San Diego, but people keep bringing it up, mostly in attacks and accusations against me. |
| 20:47.07 | nick125 | that's completely unrelated |
| 20:47.08 | mheath | So, if it would please everyone, can we discuss something else? |
| 20:47.33 | Sargun | No comment about Leilas, I see? |
| 20:48.05 | mheath | nick125: I wasn't answering your question, merely continuing my monologue. |
| 20:50.07 | nick125 | I'm wondering why you continually attack Sargun, even if he doesn't state a word to you |
| 20:50.14 | Lone_Wanderer | mheath: you seem to attract attacks and accusations. It also appears that you set the topic to something about the Marines. |
| 20:50.53 | Mystery_Mark | I'm lobbying for a +v or +o |
| 20:51.03 | Mystery_Mark | I prefer a +o |
| 20:51.14 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: I never brought up the Marines. If you'd been here for a lot of the conversations, it would have been obvious to you too that Keighvin's comment was related to the Marine Corps. |
| 20:51.32 | *** mode/#utah [+v Mystery_Mark] by ChanServ |
| 20:51.43 | Keighvin | mheath: I base my observation on your output over the course of the few weeks I've been in here. |
| 20:52.01 | findlay | I want a +z! |
| 20:52.08 | findlay | ChanServ: give me a +z |
| 20:52.13 | elg | what's +z? |
| 20:52.25 | findlay | don't know, but it's got to be way better than +v |
| 20:52.42 | elg | you're thinking of +q |
| 20:52.47 | findlay | it's probably the best +? there is |
| 20:52.48 | Keighvin | And I have no idea what you're talking about with the intense pain Dr. exaggeration bit, either. |
| 20:53.09 | findlay | ~exaggerate |
| 20:53.22 | mheath | Keighvin: Oh, then I appologize. I misinterpreted your comments as being related to something that emcnabb keeps bringing up. |
| 20:53.38 | Keighvin | Don't apologize, I'm still raggin' on ya. |
| 20:53.52 | Lone_Wanderer | mheath: All I know is that whenever I see you talking, it's about the marines. |
| 20:53.56 | Keighvin | This only means that there are multiple illustrative statements to draw from in coming to this conclusion. |
| 20:54.31 | mheath | Keighvin: While I am very headstrong and oppinionated, more so on here than in person; I do not lie, however, and I ask you to call me on it if you think I am lieing. |
| 20:54.45 | Keighvin | Here should be analagous to "in person." |
| 20:54.55 | elg | does misspelling count? |
| 20:54.59 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: I know, and I appologize. My promise to not bring it up anymore was a recent one, and I don't think I've talked to you since. |
| 20:55.05 | Keighvin | I've never said anything about lying, just being a condescending jerk and hypocrite. |
| 20:55.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Cool, that works then. |
| 20:55.32 | Keighvin | And, based on the projective nature of the statements you tend to make, that you are attempting to exempt yourself from a position of responsibility for your own happiness. |
| 20:56.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Keighvin: The hippies used to just say "Wherever you go, there you are." |
| 20:56.26 | mheath | I won't deny being a condescending jerk (When I'm talking on here), but, again I ask you to call me on it if you think I'm being hypocritical. |
| 20:56.27 | Mystery_Mark | Wow, common people, irc isn't supposed to be this deep. |
| 20:56.55 | Lone_Wanderer | "come on" |
| 20:56.56 | mheath | Hmm, how that Vista's been RTM'd, maybe Lexmark will release a working Vista driver for my printer. |
| 20:57.00 | Lone_Wanderer | unless you're calling us common |
| 20:57.04 | Keighvin | mheath: can't do that "again," because before it was about lying. |
| 20:57.18 | Keighvin | The hypocracy is in terms of calling out someone else for being condescending. |
| 20:57.25 | Keighvin | Especially in pointing out their age in doing so. |
| 20:57.58 | mheath | Keighvin: My point was more related to position. He is younger, and still in school, whereas I am out of school and working a solid job. |
| 20:58.02 | Keighvin | The majority of the participants in this channel have had to put up with a great deal of "I know better" and "you can't possibly comprehend the nature of my situation" coming from your direction, also while being a great deal older and more experienced than you. |
| 20:58.16 | mheath | I don't put much basis on age, but I think that the transition from the former position to the latter is a big one. |
| 20:58.34 | Keighvin | mheath: Position is irrelavant. |
| 20:59.04 | elg | you are younger and not even in school yet |
| 20:59.10 | elg | what's the difference? |
| 20:59.35 | Keighvin | If the situation is being broken down into "but I only did it in THIS situation" the point is already lost. I'm arguing the fact that "it" was done at all. |
| 20:59.38 | mheath | OK, point taken. |
| 21:01.39 | Keighvin | Is it really? Or only a statement to say "alright, quick ganging up on me! I'll shut up already." |
| 21:01.46 | Keighvin | Has anything actually been realized or changed? |
| 21:02.16 | mheath | No, I realize that I shouldn't have said what I said. You're right. |
| 21:02.19 | findlay | I realize that I haven't eaten anything today |
| 21:02.28 | Mystery_Mark | Keighvin, I think thats a question for your bishop. |
| 21:02.41 | mheath | Hah. |
| 21:03.18 | elg | -lart harleypig |
| 21:03.22 | Sargun | Jayce^, Hello |
| 21:03.26 | Sargun | goozbach, Poke. |
| 21:03.29 | Sargun | maquis, Poke. |
| 21:03.37 | findlay | Sargun: me, pick me! |
| 21:04.51 | findlay | I have +z, whatever that is |
| 21:05.02 | nick125 | findlay: +z is a channel mode |
| 21:05.13 | findlay | ): |
| 21:05.17 | maquis | Sargun: hello |
| 21:06.04 | findlay | oh, no. Not issues |
| 21:07.12 | mheath | I really like Windows Vista. |
| 21:07.15 | mheath | I feel evil for saying that... |
| 21:07.36 | Mystery_Mark | ~pimpslap mheath |
| 21:07.45 | ibot | mystery_mark pimpslaps mheath. ouch! |
| 21:07.45 | mheath | Microsoft is starting to get smarter, apparently, about security. |
| 21:07.48 | mheath | And filesystem hierarchy. |
| 21:08.03 | Mystery_Mark | mheath, come back to Linux, I'll give you a cookie! |
| 21:08.08 | nick125 | mheath: how about you just put a chain on the computer, and don't turn it on |
| 21:08.12 | nick125 | it would be really secure then |
| 21:09.06 | mheath | nick125: Have you seen the new security features in Vista? |
| 21:09.22 | nick125 | the one where it takes 9 steps to delete a file? |
| 21:09.43 | ^Migs^ | It's been rumored that Vista doesn't need anti-virus software, it's so secure |
| 21:09.44 | mheath | It doesn't take 9 steps to delete a file. |
| 21:09.52 | ^Migs^ | it takes 20? |
| 21:10.11 | elg | only if you're happy with it going to the trash |
| 21:10.40 | mheath | ^Migs^: Thats BS. But as long as you don't mindlessly click through any dialog boxes, its theoretically impossible for a virus to do anything really bad without your knowledge. |
| 21:11.16 | Keighvin | Right - and that describes the average consumer. |
| 21:11.42 | nick125 | mheath: dude, you didn't see the article on that (on the RC1 I think, might have been a beta) |
| 21:12.12 | mheath | http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/10/medal.honor/index.html?eref=rss_topstories |
| 21:12.59 | mheath | ^Migs^: It's still easy to make a virus. Just really hard to make one that doesn't produce a box saying that it's making weird changes to the core of your operating system. |
| 21:13.16 | nick125 | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=151250154&size=o |
| 21:13.19 | mheath | And really hard to make one that will run on a limited account |
| 21:15.39 | mheath | nick125: thats deleting something that the operating system (incorrectly, granted) regards as being an integral part of itself. |
| 21:15.58 | mheath | You still get one dialog for deleting a normal file under normal circumstances. |
| 21:16.08 | ^Migs^ | just give it up, mheath. We all know Vista blows. |
| 21:16.20 | ^Migs^ | we don't even have to use it to know that! |
| 21:16.37 | elg | methinks it's stockholm syndrome |
| 21:16.52 | mheath | ^Migs^: haha |
| 21:18.05 | mheath | wow, a new medal of honor |
| 21:18.24 | mheath | They've only awarded two during the Iraq war |
| 21:18.32 | mheath | Both posthumously, though :( |
| 21:18.42 | Mystery_Mark | Medal of Honor: Iraqi Slaughter? |
| 21:18.45 | Mystery_Mark | I'll buy it |
| 21:19.07 | Keighvin | The point of a virus is rarely to delete files anyway. |
| 21:19.10 | ^Migs^ | you have to die awesomely to earn one |
| 21:19.20 | Mystery_Mark | Awsomely how? |
| 21:19.30 | Mystery_Mark | Like fall onto a bomb? |
| 21:19.33 | Keighvin | There's more money to be made in creating a network of zombies for distributed spam and/or DOS. |
| 21:19.37 | findlay | how do I extract rar archives? |
| 21:19.38 | Mystery_Mark | or run naked into a mosk? |
| 21:19.41 | ^Migs^ | with winrar |
| 21:19.43 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 21:19.50 | mheath | ^Migs^: my greatest hero didn't die. (Though he went through something that would easily kill an average man) |
| 21:19.50 | ^Migs^ | a mosk? |
| 21:19.54 | Mystery_Mark | die awsomely using winrar. |
| 21:19.56 | Mystery_Mark | sounds good |
| 21:20.40 | ^Migs^ | I'm glad you think of me as your hero, mheath |
| 21:20.57 | mheath | Roy Benavidez |
| 21:21.00 | mheath | The guy was in Vietnam |
| 21:21.04 | mheath | Steps on a landmine |
| 21:21.27 | mheath | They say he'll never walk again, but he recovers and becomes a green beret |
| 21:21.35 | mheath | brb |
| 21:21.38 | ^Migs^ | uh |
| 21:21.40 | ^Migs^ | how is that a hero? |
| 21:21.44 | ^Migs^ | he's just some guy who stepped on a landmine |
| 21:21.54 | mheath | ^Migs^: didn't get to the actual part yet |
| 21:22.03 | ^Migs^ | I could go out and step on a landmine right now. Would I be your hero then? |
| 21:22.05 | mheath | While the guy is later carrying out a rescue mission |
| 21:22.17 | mheath | The rescue helicopter (two of them) gets shot down, twice. |
| 21:22.46 | mheath | By the time the entire thing is done, he'd had about 6 direct bullet hits, numerous shrapnel wounds, and a bayonnet wound |
| 21:22.53 | findlay | ^Migs^: I don't use windows |
| 21:23.04 | mheath | And the entire affair lasted for like 4 hours |
| 21:23.11 | mheath | He kept going and carying for other people |
| 21:23.20 | mheath | later, on the helicopter, he finally collapsed |
| 21:23.26 | ^Migs^ | I'd love to have Roy Benavidez as my party's tank |
| 21:23.34 | mheath | and he was declared dead by the doctors |
| 21:23.57 | ^Migs^ | oh no! He died!? |
| 21:24.14 | mheath | Heres the really awesome part: He's barely concious, and they're litterally putting him in a body bag. He can't move; he's in two much pain....so how does he let them know he's alive? Spits on 'em. |
| 21:24.31 | mheath | It's like something right out of a hollywood movie, but it actually happened. |
| 21:25.02 | mheath | Even then, they didn't think he'd stay alive |
| 21:25.10 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 21:25.23 | mheath | They awarded him some kind of Distinguished Service ribbon at first, because they didn't think he'd stay alive long enough to go through the process of getting a Medal of Honor |
| 21:27.56 | mheath | Lasted 6 hours. Minutes into it, he was shot in the face, head, and right leg. He was later shot in the stomach, and the thight, and hit in the back with grenade fragments. He was also struck with a bayonnet. |
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| 21:28.59 | mheath | Ronald Reagan is quoted as saying that if this story was ever made into a movie, no one would ever believe it really happened as they depicted it :P |
| 21:29.23 | graphyx | well knowing holliwood, they way that they would depict it wouldn't be possible in reality. |
| 21:29.44 | graphyx | s/holli/holly/ |
| 21:29.57 | mheath | graphyx: listen to that story. Would you think that would be possible in reality, without knowing that it actually happened? |
| 21:30.11 | graphyx | That isn't my point. |
| 21:30.32 | mheath | 5 bullet wounds, a knife wound, two shrappnel wounds, and still running around helping for 6 hours. |
| 21:30.55 | mheath | graphyx: ah, I see. |
| 21:31.24 | mheath | He's my personal idol though. |
| 21:31.36 | mheath | He's the perfect example of unselfishness, valor, and heroism. |
| 21:31.44 | mheath | Like he stepped out of a movie :) |
| 21:31.58 | graphyx | an acxiom about hollywood is this. An audience will believe the impossible, but not the merely improbable. |
| 21:40.44 | Keighvin | mheath: A blaze of glory isn't all it's cracked up to be. |
| 21:41.45 | findlay | usually it's just hot |
| 21:41.55 | findlay | and bright |
| 21:44.12 | findlay | wow. I didn't realize how much a difference clean code would make |
| 21:44.26 | findlay | it's so much nicer on the eyes |
| 21:45.43 | Mystery_Mark | as opposed to php and ruby code. |
| 21:45.54 | Mystery_Mark | which makes your eyes bleed. |
| 21:46.11 | findlay | I'm just looking at different C sources |
| 21:48.41 | ^Migs^ | there's a Roy P. Benavidez Elementary School in Houston, Texas |
| 21:49.04 | macnewbold | did he end up dying after the 6 hours? |
| 21:49.13 | bonez39 | xmission? closed? holiday? the holiday is tomorrow... |
| 21:49.16 | macnewbold | or is he still alive? |
| 21:49.19 | ^Migs^ | he died in 1999 |
| 21:49.22 | ^Migs^ | or 1998, something like that |
| 21:50.37 | nick125 | bonez39: you can probably get ahold of someone in their IRC channel |
| 21:51.16 | Mystery_Mark | I think 99.9% QoS should include holidays because what "if" .01% happens on vetrans day/ |
| 21:51.19 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 21:52.49 | emcnabb | only 30 more minutes 'til the weekend! |
| 21:53.08 | Mystery_Mark | what? |
| 21:53.31 | findlay | nick125: heh good luck with qworst |
| 21:53.41 | nick125 | findlay: thanks, I'm going to need it |
| 21:54.56 | Lone_Wanderer | How do you enter the vim tutorial? |
| 21:55.18 | Tene | run vimtutor |
| 21:56.00 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 21:58.09 | Tene | np |
| 22:02.18 | Mystery_Mark | I just created a new word. |
| 22:02.29 | Mystery_Mark | antidomainistic remarks |
| 22:02.42 | Mystery_Mark | well, words |
| 22:02.53 | Mystery_Mark | I cant take credit for the last one though |
| 22:03.04 | Mystery_Mark | But the first .... oh yah! |
| 22:03.05 | findlay | if this drive spins the disc any faster the bits will fly off |
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| 22:05.22 | emcnabb | ~spin findlay |
| 22:05.23 | ibot | ACTION spins findlay |
| 22:05.32 | Tene | ~remix findlay |
| 22:05.43 | emcnabb | Tene: how's your new laptop? |
| 22:05.45 | Tene | ibot: libfindlay |
| 22:05.55 | Tene | emcnabb: still can't get wireless working. |
| 22:06.04 | emcnabb | what card? |
| 22:07.41 | Tene | broadcom something. |
| 22:08.09 | Tene | Chip IS 4311, PCI-E, listed as Unstable support with the bcm43xx driver |
| 22:08.27 | emcnabb | ah, fun |
| 22:08.37 | Tene | I haven't tried ndiswrapper yet |
| 22:09.04 | emcnabb | at least the driver is making progress |
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| 22:11.07 | Tene | I think that choosing this model was a bad idea. I went to look at prices and such at my local CompUSA and was talked into buying this as it was the last in stock of a discontinued line, so discounts etc. |
| 22:11.34 | findlay | Tene: nah, the driver will be functional eventually |
| 22:11.38 | emcnabb | besides the wireless card, is there anything else you don't like? |
| 22:12.04 | emcnabb | Tene: that's the exact thing that happened when I bought my Sony Vaio laptop |
| 22:12.14 | emcnabb | I liked it at first and then found it was crap |
| 22:12.26 | Tene | There was the silliness trying to install Fedora on it, and I still have to run it with noapic. I'm unsure of the consequences of noapic. |
| 22:12.34 | emcnabb | then my wife wanted a laptop, so I gave her mine, and I got a new one :-) |
| 22:13.14 | findlay | emcnabb: what do you have now? |
| 22:15.39 | Keighvin | ~whaleambush emcnabb |
| 22:15.46 | ibot | ACTION ambushes emcnabb with Giovanni, a whale that's a bit too big to be a dagger |
| 22:15.46 | Tene | the expandy-card slot thingy is a different shape than the external wifi card I have. It has a chunk taken out of it. One of the justifications I used WRT broadcom was that if all else failed, I could just use the external card I had. |
| 22:15.52 | emcnabb | findlay: Thinkpad T43 |
| 22:16.27 | emcnabb | Tene: sounds like it is an ExpressCard slot |
| 22:16.48 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 22:16.49 | nick125 | yeah, it sounds like a EC slot |
| 22:16.54 | Tene | 'kay |
| 22:18.46 | Keighvin | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 22:21.00 | bonez39 | anyone here work with btrieve.....pervasive record manager? |
| 22:22.26 | Tene | No, I haven't. You have a problem? |
| 22:23.30 | emcnabb | Tene: do you only have one card slot? my laptop supports both |
| 22:23.45 | Tene | Yep, only one. |
| 22:24.31 | Sargun | -short circuits- |
| 22:24.56 | bonez39 | Tene, well, I run a program called Lytec Medical.and it contains a base of about 6000 patients....address, etc..I'd like to extract the data and make it in comma delimited format....so I could put it in mail merges and such |
| 22:24.56 | findlay | ~reboot Sargun |
| 22:24.58 | ibot | ACTION pushes Sargun's reset button |
| 22:26.19 | Tene | what is the data stored in right now? |
| 22:26.42 | Sargun | Organic Media Storage System. |
| 22:26.47 | redbeard1 | o/~ take me down to the paradise city, where the grass is green and the girls are pretty o/~ |
| 22:26.47 | Sargun | OMSS |
| 22:27.04 | Sargun | redbeard1, song? |
| 22:27.44 | redbeard1 | Sargun: paradise city, by guns and roses |
| 22:28.16 | Sargun | Isn't guns and roses one of those primitive rock bands :-P |
| 22:28.26 | Keighvin | ~shoot Jayce^ |
| 22:28.27 | ibot | ACTION shoots Jayce^ in the foot with a glue gun! |
| 22:28.29 | findlay | am I crazy to be sha512summing each track on the CD and verifying exact data intregity? |
| 22:28.48 | redbeard1 | man, i remember when GNR came out... all bets were off, man. too bad axel is such a mess. |
| 22:31.06 | Lone_Wanderer | OMSS = your brain? |
| 22:31.30 | Sargun | yeah |
| 22:32.09 | Lone_Wanderer | Man, all this time I had an organic media storage system and I didn't know it. |
| 22:32.10 | Jayce^ | ~beat Keighvin |
| 22:32.12 | ibot | ACTION beats Keighvin with a very wet, sticky noodle |
| 22:32.15 | ^Migs^ | dang, I got a lot of work done today |
| 22:32.19 | Lone_Wanderer | grats |
| 22:32.27 | Jayce^ | what? it's friday, you shouldn't be doing that |
| 22:32.35 | ^Migs^ | at this rate I'm going to preempt my deadline by a whole month |
| 22:32.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Don't do that. |
| 22:32.54 | Lone_Wanderer | Play some minesweeper. |
| 22:33.03 | ^Migs^ | You make an excellent and convincing point. |
| 22:35.50 | findlay | ~minesweeper (5,12) |
| 22:35.53 | bonez39 | Tene, yeah, that's 3where the data resides now |
| 22:36.14 | bonez39 | it does an fine job of keeping the records straight, but it's a pain to extract specific data out for a mailing list.... |
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| 22:36.36 | Tene | bonez39: where does that program store its data? |
| 22:40.59 | Mystery_Mark | I think "scurry" is an awsome word. |
| 22:41.04 | Mystery_Mark | "leap" is cool too. |
| 22:55.24 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.58 | findlay | you want your guns controlled? |
| 22:56.26 | Sargun | I want your guns controlled. |
| 22:56.36 | findlay | I don't have any guns |
| 22:56.41 | Jayce^ | what a joke of setup |
| 22:56.43 | Sargun | Isn't someone in here really into weapons? |
| 22:56.48 | Jayce^ | quite a few of us |
| 22:57.18 | findlay | but I reserve the right (the Bill of Rights right) to own them, even to take up arms against a tyrannical government |
| 22:57.54 | Jayce^ | there is a reason it's the 2nd amendment... |
| 22:58.19 | Sargun | you do realise that the government could fly a stealth bomber over you at the speed of sound within 36 minutes and take you out, without any civilian being able to stop them |
| 22:58.21 | Sargun | right? |
| 22:59.22 | Jayce^ | and yet what keeps them from doing it.... |
| 23:00.13 | Sargun | It'd look bad |
| 23:00.22 | Sargun | and it costs them money |
| 23:00.28 | Jayce^ | you really think that's all? |
| 23:00.29 | Sargun | and findlay does not pose a sizable threat |
| 23:01.24 | findlay | oh sure |
| 23:01.28 | Sargun | no, but those are a few of the reasons. |
| 23:01.32 | findlay | you just say that because you're afraid |
| 23:01.39 | Sargun | Could findlay stop the government? |
| 23:01.50 | findlay | afraid of my ultra hacking skills |
| 23:01.51 | Sargun | Well, yes, probably, but without his guns. |
| 23:02.08 | Sargun | Rather his horrible perl code will cause them to bleed from their eyes :-P |
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| 23:03.21 | findlay | perl -e 'print "ph34r M3 Sargun!\n"' |
| 23:04.20 | Sargun | Run away! |
| 23:05.55 | findlay | lol |
| 23:06.42 | Keighvin | findlay: What's up with that? I mean, it was legible! |
| 23:06.51 | findlay | really? |
| 23:06.55 | findlay | oh |
| 23:07.55 | Keighvin | Pfft. That was NOT the work I would expect from yaph. :( |
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