| 00:25.58 | levi | elg: Westfield is releasing a Lotus-7 replica that takes its guts from a wrecked Miata. It's somewhere in that price range, too. |
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| 00:26.35 | levi | Of course you end up with a little sports car instead of a little airplane, but both would be fun toys. |
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| 01:03.14 | Sargun | Cops are scary. |
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| 01:07.36 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: how do you know that? |
| 01:12.47 | linuxalien | Probably cuz they shoot back. :) |
| 01:16.37 | Sargun | lol |
| 01:28.42 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, nervous, why? |
| 01:28.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Because she's cute and all that. |
| 01:28.59 | Sargun | I mean, your not going to freeze up |
| 01:29.02 | Sargun | are you? |
| 01:29.05 | Sargun | and if she is cute |
| 01:29.09 | Lone_Wanderer | Nah, I've done too much public speaking for that. |
| 01:29.13 | Sargun | whats the worst that could happen. |
| 01:29.13 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 01:29.15 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, lol |
| 01:29.17 | Lone_Wanderer | If I start feeling the freeze up coming I switch to auto mode. |
| 01:29.19 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, are you a guru? |
| 01:29.28 | Lone_Wanderer | what kind of guru? |
| 01:29.33 | Lone_Wanderer | I guess it doesn't matter 'cause the answer is no |
| 01:29.37 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, the kind that redhat employees |
| 01:29.47 | Lone_Wanderer | nope |
| 01:30.19 | Lone_Wanderer | What brought that question up? |
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| 01:32.17 | Sargun | oh |
| 01:32.21 | Sargun | nevermind |
| 01:32.50 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, are you going to ask her out for dinner? |
| 01:32.56 | Sargun | or lunch tommorow? |
| 01:33.04 | Lone_Wanderer | No... I should. Lunch would be good |
| 01:33.12 | Sargun | lunch is good for first |
| 01:33.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I haven't actually called yet. |
| 01:33.18 | Sargun | though |
| 01:33.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, it's less pressure. |
| 01:33.29 | Sargun | its me |
| 01:33.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Honestly, I'd be happy just being friends with her. |
| 01:33.30 | Sargun | :-) |
| 01:33.33 | Sargun | ya. |
| 01:33.44 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: Who are you asking? |
| 01:33.46 | Sargun | but girls automagically think when your asking them out to a place |
| 01:33.54 | Lone_Wanderer | But it's hard to say that convincingly when you just asked for their number. |
| 01:33.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Exactly. |
| 01:33.58 | Sargun | your looking for a relationship |
| 01:34.02 | Sargun | numbers are easy... |
| 01:34.19 | Sargun | um |
| 01:34.34 | Sargun | "You seem cool, and I'd like to talk to you more. Whats your number?" |
| 01:34.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Well |
| 01:34.50 | Lone_Wanderer | I used to work with her but she quit and her friend told me to go to her new workplace and talk to her. |
| 01:34.58 | Lone_Wanderer | It's kind of a long story. |
| 01:35.09 | Sargun | uh |
| 01:35.13 | Lone_Wanderer | But we were in training together and whatnot. |
| 01:35.58 | Sargun | ah |
| 01:36.03 | Sargun | is she a geek too? |
| 01:36.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Her Mom is... |
| 01:36.13 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: But if you got into a relationship you would have to change you handle... |
| 01:36.37 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 01:36.50 | Lone_Wanderer | Good point. That'd be quite nice. |
| 01:37.08 | Sargun | Whats her name? |
| 01:37.12 | Sargun | :-P |
| 01:37.43 | Lone_Wanderer | Delia |
| 01:39.14 | graphyx | obviously a good choice. |
| 01:39.33 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: I may make snide remarks, but don't get me wrong being in a good relationship is nice. |
| 01:39.48 | Lone_Wanderer | it's cool :) we're geeks, snide remarks are expected |
| 01:39.52 | graphyx | I was so socially backwards if my wife hadn't asked me to marry her, I don't know what would have happened. |
| 01:39.56 | Sargun | lol |
| 01:39.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Lucky guy! |
| 01:40.00 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 01:40.11 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, I didn't expect you to give her name |
| 01:40.15 | Lone_Wanderer | oh ok |
| 01:41.23 | linuxalien | Here's a good Halloween Present: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xW7lykf6XII |
| 01:41.48 | nick125_lappy | linuxalien: ugh! do you have a google video link? |
| 01:41.56 | nick125_lappy | (youtube is totally broken here :( ) |
| 01:42.01 | graphyx | yeah that is what I was thinking.. |
| 01:42.14 | linuxalien | Oh ok |
| 01:42.16 | linuxalien | Lemme find one |
| 01:42.20 | nick125_lappy | level(3) is broken (as usual) :( |
| 01:43.24 | nick125_lappy | (level3 in dallas has been b0rked to LA for least a week here) |
| 01:43.46 | Sargun | lol |
| 01:43.47 | linuxalien | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5477477756459784400&q=lordi |
| 01:44.34 | Lone_Wanderer | That guy playing the guitar is awesome. |
| 01:45.47 | linuxalien | They're from Norway, I believe. Quite entertaining and perfect for Halloween. |
| 01:45.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Err, the drums. |
| 01:46.00 | linuxalien | Yeah, I like the drummer too |
| 01:46.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Those guys look like they'd fit right in with any given WoW character. |
| 01:46.53 | nick125_lappy | ugh |
| 01:46.53 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, when you guna call? |
| 01:46.57 | Sargun | gunna |
| 01:46.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, right. |
| 01:47.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Maybe tomorrow >.> |
| 01:47.15 | Sargun | don't be a wimp :-P |
| 01:47.21 | Lone_Wanderer | I just got her number today. |
| 01:47.26 | Lone_Wanderer | She's probably at a halloween party right now. |
| 01:47.34 | Sargun | you should have joined her. |
| 01:47.36 | Sargun | :-P |
| 01:47.58 | vontrapp | i have a halloween party tonight |
| 01:48.03 | vontrapp | it's called physics homework |
| 01:48.10 | Sargun | vontrapp, lol, more fun than my night. |
| 01:48.34 | vontrapp | queue, cue, whatever |
| 01:48.38 | Sargun | btw: happy halloween |
| 01:54.07 | graphyx | vontrapp: Queues is correct. |
| 01:54.12 | graphyx | cue is more an an indicator. |
| 01:54.15 | graphyx | ~define cue |
| 01:54.17 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 01:54.20 | graphyx | ~dict cue |
| 01:55.02 | Lone_Wanderer | It could be queue too. A queue is a line, so if you're queieng up songs in Winamp (or the media player of your choice) that'd be accurate. |
| 01:55.57 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: That is what I said.. cue isn't appropriate for the statement. |
| 01:56.44 | Lone_Wanderer | ohh, I thought he was queieng (sp?) it up to listen to |
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| 02:08.53 | levi_home | graphyx: "cue the scary music" would be like a stage direction to start scary music. So, it could fit, though it would be a stretch. |
| 02:11.12 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: That is what I thought as well. |
| 02:12.21 | graphyx | levi_home: Yeah, that would fit. |
| 02:14.43 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: How old are you? |
| 02:14.48 | Lone_Wanderer | 27 |
| 02:14.51 | Lone_Wanderer | why? |
| 02:16.20 | Lone_Wanderer | 'cause I'm hopelessly socially inadequate and you're wondering how long I've been this way? ;) |
| 02:16.35 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 02:18.28 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: You just seemed to be getting along really well with sargun. |
| 02:18.36 | graphyx | wanted to make sure you were still of legal age... |
| 02:18.38 | Lone_Wanderer | oh. who's Sargun? |
| 02:18.40 | graphyx | you know.. |
| 02:18.55 | graphyx | he's like 15 |
| 02:19.05 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm not into boys. |
| 02:19.13 | graphyx | That isn't quite what I intended... |
| 02:19.29 | graphyx | He has calmed down quite a bit recently. |
| 02:19.38 | graphyx | but in the past he has been rather interesting to endure.. |
| 02:19.45 | Sargun | haha |
| 02:19.52 | Sargun | graphyx, almost 16 |
| 02:19.57 | Sargun | yeah, I've got off my meds. |
| 02:21.02 | graphyx | Is that what it was? |
| 02:21.16 | graphyx | Sargun: I was guessing, but glad to know I was correct. |
| 02:21.24 | graphyx | BTW, I approve of the nick change.. |
| 02:21.24 | Sargun | haha |
| 02:21.55 | Sargun | I like the new nick. |
| 02:22.02 | graphyx | much better. |
| 02:22.10 | Lone_Wanderer | what was the old one? |
| 02:22.12 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh |
| 02:22.14 | Lone_Wanderer | were you xboxmodder? |
| 02:22.20 | graphyx | and It is good that there is only one of them and not like you and your six million clones.. |
| 02:22.40 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: you are catching on.. |
| 02:23.01 | Lone_Wanderer | :D |
| 02:23.24 | graphyx | see why I was worried... |
| 02:23.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, definitely. |
| 02:25.55 | levi_home | Lone_Wanderer: Are there any social opportunities to run across this girl without calling her? |
| 02:26.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Nope. Not really. |
| 02:26.15 | graphyx | Dude, just call her. |
| 02:26.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Except going to see her at work which is transparent. |
| 02:26.19 | graphyx | Give it a couple days. |
| 02:26.22 | graphyx | And then call her. |
| 02:26.34 | graphyx | Have something to do in a group enviroment. |
| 02:26.36 | graphyx | and go do it. |
| 02:26.53 | levi_home | Group stuff is good. |
| 02:27.01 | Lone_Wanderer | Aye, groups indeed. |
| 02:27.02 | graphyx | If you have to get a group together to do it. |
| 02:27.04 | graphyx | Do it. |
| 02:27.13 | graphyx | Not that I am the best date guru... |
| 02:27.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Hey, I'll take what I can get. |
| 02:27.24 | graphyx | You already heard my story. |
| 02:27.33 | Lone_Wanderer | I did? |
| 02:27.35 | levi_home | Inviting her to a party you're throwing or something is good. |
| 02:27.39 | Lone_Wanderer | Ha! |
| 02:27.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Me throwing a party. |
| 02:27.46 | Sargun | lol |
| 02:30.21 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll get some friends together though. People she knows from work. |
| 02:30.42 | Sargun | Ice skating? |
| 02:31.05 | levi_home | There you go. |
| 02:31.19 | Sargun | ? |
| 02:31.22 | levi_home | You need a nice ice-breaking situation so you're not cold-calling her. |
| 02:31.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Ice skating? |
| 02:31.32 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: Yeah, the wife asked me to marry her, not the other way around. |
| 02:31.36 | Sargun | oh |
| 02:31.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Ohh right. |
| 02:31.38 | Sargun | yah. |
| 02:31.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I hadn't really considered ice skating... |
| 02:32.21 | graphyx | and if she gives you the cold shoulder you can just blame it on the ice... |
| 02:32.47 | Lone_Wanderer | clever! |
| 02:32.48 | levi_home | If you can carry on a good conversation with her in the group, maybe you can find a common interest that you could build an activity together around. |
| 02:32.49 | Sargun | lol |
| 02:32.55 | Sargun | Ice skating is fun |
| 02:32.56 | Sargun | group fun |
| 02:33.03 | Sargun | and its easy to break off from the group. |
| 02:33.05 | Lone_Wanderer | I worked with her for about four months, Levi, we know each other reasonably well. |
| 02:33.10 | levi_home | Ahh, okay. |
| 02:33.27 | levi_home | Well, what common interests do you have? |
| 02:33.35 | Lone_Wanderer | shakespeare |
| 02:33.41 | Lone_Wanderer | philosophy |
| 02:33.44 | Sargun | cool. |
| 02:33.45 | levi_home | I used my wife-to-be's library as an excuse to drop by. |
| 02:33.47 | Sargun | Those are good. |
| 02:33.51 | graphyx | long range potential date... |
| 02:33.54 | Lone_Wanderer | Kissing, I hope. |
| 02:33.58 | levi_home | Heh. |
| 02:33.59 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 02:34.01 | graphyx | Ashland shakespear feastival.. |
| 02:34.09 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh |
| 02:34.17 | levi_home | Find a book you want to read that she has, and borrow it. |
| 02:34.27 | Lone_Wanderer | And then never give it back? |
| 02:34.50 | levi_home | It's especially good if it's one she loves and would love to talk about. |
| 02:34.57 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 02:35.03 | graphyx | No, but when you give it back accidentally leave something of yours there. |
| 02:35.24 | graphyx | dating is a game. |
| 02:35.46 | Sargun | kissing? |
| 02:36.00 | graphyx | That's not a game. |
| 02:36.04 | Sargun | no |
| 02:36.05 | Sargun | lol |
| 02:36.11 | levi_home | Alas, it is a game. |
| 02:36.11 | graphyx | It's a full contact sport. |
| 02:36.18 | Sargun | graphyx, hahaha |
| 02:37.48 | Sargun | I have terrible luck. |
| 02:38.17 | levi_home | It doesn't have to be a bad game, but there are some motions you have to go through. |
| 02:38.20 | Lone_Wanderer | You're also 15, dude. Give it a time. |
| 02:38.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Give it time rather. |
| 02:38.27 | graphyx | Sargun, you're 15. Best advice I can give you is this. Just don't worry about girls yet. Figure out how to relate to them and keep them at arms length for now. |
| 02:38.34 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, luck has no relation with my age. |
| 02:38.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Seriously. |
| 02:38.51 | graphyx | They will only befuddle, confuse, mess with, screw with, and waste your money. |
| 02:38.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes it does. I've been 15 before, it's way different when you get older. |
| 02:38.59 | Sargun | luck = people believing other people over me, getting really random diseases, etc.. |
| 02:39.05 | graphyx | Just put it on hold and stick with the group dates. |
| 02:39.14 | Sargun | graphyx, I'm not talking about girls |
| 02:39.19 | Sargun | I'm talking about random stuff |
| 02:39.22 | graphyx | ah... |
| 02:39.23 | Lone_Wanderer | oh |
| 02:39.23 | Sargun | in general. |
| 02:39.28 | graphyx | You make your own luck. |
| 02:39.35 | graphyx | but for the girls I am dead on.. |
| 02:39.36 | graphyx | trust me. |
| 02:39.44 | Tene | Yeah, he's right. |
| 02:40.02 | levi_home | Anyway, just a couple of opportunities to get chatting about stuff in a friendly setting can kick-start a relationship. |
| 02:40.04 | graphyx | Wish I had had someone I trusted to set me straight 15 years ago.. |
| 02:40.25 | Sargun | Girls are easy if you have time and resources |
| 02:40.25 | graphyx | My mom probably tried, but my dad didn't really talk to us kids. |
| 02:41.04 | Sargun | graphyx, my shrink wants me to get a girlfriend. |
| 02:41.08 | Sargun | *sigh* |
| 02:41.23 | Lone_Wanderer | That sounds like terrible advice to me. |
| 02:41.27 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, heh. |
| 02:41.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Is he fully licensed? |
| 02:41.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Or is he just encouraging you to spend more time with girls and make an effort at dating? :p |
| 02:41.56 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, the best in pleasanton (my uber tiny city which has an amazingly large amount of shrinks) |
| 02:42.02 | Sargun | spend more time with people. |
| 02:42.05 | Lone_Wanderer | That may be a sign. |
| 02:42.14 | Sargun | well real people. |
| 02:42.33 | Lone_Wanderer | To get out of Pleasanton. Even it's name sounds like something out of a creepy sitcom where people disappear randomly and at the end of the series you find out they're all cannibals. |
| 02:42.39 | Sargun | hahaha |
| 02:42.47 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, 3 more years |
| 02:42.51 | Sargun | 2 more. |
| 02:43.00 | Sargun | + like 1 semester and 3 months |
| 02:43.06 | Lone_Wanderer | But spending more time with people is good advice and it's not the same as getting a girlfriend :p |
| 02:43.31 | levi_home | Hanging out with people (in the real world, not irc) is a good thing. |
| 02:43.53 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, well, I hate school, and he said you need to deal with it, or find something interesting at school |
| 02:44.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Why do you hate school? |
| 02:44.06 | Sargun | which he said were clubs, and maybe a girlfriend or something |
| 02:44.14 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, because it doesn't interest me |
| 02:44.21 | Sargun | and I get treated like crap there |
| 02:44.30 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, so he wasn't actually ordering you out onto the dating warpath or anything |
| 02:44.47 | Sargun | I like IRC/phone because nobody knows your age |
| 02:45.06 | Sargun | or they don't care |
| 02:45.08 | levi_home | A lot of people get treated like crap at school at your age. It gets better as you get a little older. |
| 02:45.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, high school is rough. |
| 02:45.51 | Sargun | levi_home, Lone_Wanderer, yeah, I'm going to apply for the GEDs in janurary, hopefully I can go to a JC for two years after that |
| 02:45.58 | Lone_Wanderer | The nasty secret of high school is that it doesn't really matter. |
| 02:46.01 | Sargun | maybe transfer into a UC from JC |
| 02:46.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Getting good grades might be kind of important, but honestly... it's not the big deal they make it out to be, unless you're shooting for Harvard. |
| 02:46.20 | Sargun | and maybe, just maybe I'll graduate college at 20. |
| 02:46.43 | Sargun | Lone_Wanderer, my parents want me to go to an Ivy league. I'm fine with a CSU |
| 02:47.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, you can't please everyone. Do what you want first. |
| 02:47.03 | Tene | I was accepted into BYU with pretty trashy grades, despite everone always telling me that grades were so very important. |
| 02:47.13 | Tene | for reference |
| 02:47.20 | Sargun | I qualify for a CUS |
| 02:47.21 | Sargun | er |
| 02:47.22 | Sargun | CSU |
| 02:47.30 | Lone_Wanderer | what's a CSU? |
| 02:47.41 | Lone_Wanderer | I mean even if your grades suck and you don't go to college |
| 02:47.42 | Sargun | California state university |
| 02:47.49 | Tene | yeah |
| 02:47.50 | Lone_Wanderer | you can get ASE certified and become a mechanic |
| 02:47.55 | Lone_Wanderer | or do something else |
| 02:48.05 | Lone_Wanderer | so long as you make enough to support yourself and are happy, who cares? |
| 02:50.20 | Sargun | A job isn't the problem |
| 02:50.40 | Sargun | I'm asian and my parents expect me to stick to the family standard of an Ivy league with a 4.0+ GPA and top 10% of graduating class. |
| 02:50.43 | Sargun | like my sister |
| 02:50.49 | Sargun | I can easily get a decent job. |
| 02:50.57 | Lone_Wanderer | ahhh, okay |
| 02:51.01 | Sargun | I've done multiple phone interviews for sysadminning |
| 02:51.18 | Sargun | and got'em |
| 02:52.17 | Lone_Wanderer | So it's just your parents and putting up with high school that's killing you? |
| 02:54.56 | Sargun | If it were upto me |
| 02:54.56 | Sargun | I'd be in a JC right now |
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| 02:55.57 | graphyx | Sargun: high school was the absolute worst for me... |
| 02:56.10 | Sargun | graphyx, what did you have to put up with? |
| 02:56.14 | Sargun | Same? |
| 02:56.17 | Sargun | or worse? |
| 02:56.23 | graphyx | I was the one everyone picked on. |
| 02:56.26 | Sargun | :-( |
| 02:56.28 | graphyx | Didn't have any really good friends. |
| 02:56.32 | graphyx | no social skills. |
| 02:56.40 | graphyx | Even my older sister kicked me out of the mormon group. |
| 02:56.44 | Sargun | :-( |
| 02:56.48 | graphyx | so I didn't have any one to really hang with. |
| 02:56.58 | graphyx | Just some math geeks and what not for a bit. |
| 02:57.25 | Sargun | Sadly our school doesn't have any math geeks. |
| 02:57.25 | Sargun | All my geeky friends graduated last year :-( |
| 02:58.06 | Sargun | Did you teachers like you? |
| 02:58.16 | graphyx | some. |
| 02:58.25 | graphyx | but that wasn't good enough for me. |
| 02:58.39 | Sargun | What did you do? |
| 02:58.42 | graphyx | I mean was sufficient for me to like it. |
| 02:58.54 | graphyx | I suffered till about my senior year when I realized a lot of ti didn't matter. |
| 02:58.58 | graphyx | and did some fun stuff anyway. |
| 02:59.07 | graphyx | then I went to college. |
| 02:59.13 | graphyx | And found friends, and stuff. |
| 02:59.20 | graphyx | I was married then too so things were a bit different. |
| 02:59.30 | graphyx | mind you there was a gap between college and high school. |
| 02:59.31 | Sargun | when'd you get married? |
| 02:59.58 | graphyx | right before getting to college. |
| 03:00.02 | graphyx | chat me tomorrow. |
| 03:00.05 | graphyx | I do'nt have a lot of time to talk. |
| 03:00.09 | graphyx | tring to get a report for work done now. |
| 03:00.12 | graphyx | sorry. |
| 03:00.42 | Sargun | cya. |
| 03:02.42 | graphyx | Well I am still here, but have to focus mainl on this other task. |
| 03:05.50 | Sargun | I hate trick or treaters. |
| 03:07.01 | herlo | Sargun, my son is a trick or treater, you'd better give out all your candy |
| 03:07.26 | Sargun | lol |
| 03:08.01 | graphyx | Lone_Wanderer: good luck with the girl. |
| 03:08.05 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks |
| 03:08.10 | graphyx | Sure. |
| 03:08.17 | graphyx | If you want any dumb date ideas just shout it to the channel. |
| 03:08.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, dumb date ideas would be fantastic. |
| 03:08.39 | graphyx | how about the adventurous. |
| 03:08.48 | graphyx | go to DI and buy outfits for each other for 2$ or under |
| 03:08.53 | graphyx | and wear it bowling or something. |
| 03:08.56 | graphyx | that's unusual. |
| 03:09.04 | Sargun | Do you think size 30 font is good? |
| 03:09.09 | Lone_Wanderer | Good for what? |
| 03:09.24 | Sargun | this sign: |
| 03:09.24 | Sargun | We don't have candy |
| 03:09.24 | Sargun | ??? ????? ???? |
| 03:09.24 | Sargun | Nous ne prenons pas la sucrerie |
| 03:09.24 | Sargun | Wir haben nicht S??igkeit |
| 03:09.25 | Sargun | Non abbiamo caramella |
| 03:09.26 | Sargun | N?s n?o temos o doce |
| 03:09.28 | Sargun | No tenemos caramelo |
| 03:09.30 | graphyx | a book -> too bid. skywriting -> too small |
| 03:09.44 | graphyx | Sargun: Just turn off the porch/garage light |
| 03:09.48 | graphyx | And close the curtains. |
| 03:09.58 | graphyx | That's the standard sign that you aren't giving out candy. |
| 03:10.04 | graphyx | no sign needed. |
| 03:10.16 | Tene | No sargunos caramelo |
| 03:10.22 | Sargun | skywriting is very expensive |
| 03:10.29 | Sargun | lol |
| 03:10.32 | Lone_Wanderer | It's also not really specific to your house. |
| 03:10.50 | Lone_Wanderer | People would think the sky has no candy. But you'd be putting the lie to those Skittles commercials. |
| 03:10.52 | mheath | Non abbiamo caramella |
| 03:10.55 | mheath | what language is that? |
| 03:11.02 | Sargun | italian I think |
| 03:11.06 | Lone_Wanderer | "Nous n'avons pas les bonbons" would probably be better for French too. |
| 03:11.07 | graphyx | italian. |
| 03:11.08 | graphyx | indeed. |
| 03:11.12 | Lone_Wanderer | I think anyway. |
| 03:11.14 | graphyx | since I speak it. |
| 03:11.15 | mheath | All the languages I've known, caramella is caramel. Or related to caramel. Not just 'candy'. |
| 03:11.19 | mheath | Weird. |
| 03:11.37 | Sargun | dulces |
| 03:12.09 | graphyx | It's candy. |
| 03:12.46 | herlo | http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/10/how_to_make_a_c_6.html |
| 03:12.57 | herlo | it's a cylon jack-o-lantern |
| 03:13.12 | graphyx | That rocks.. though a bit late. |
| 03:13.14 | Sargun | graphyx, ya, I know |
| 03:13.27 | Sargun | I wonder what the people I know are doing |
| 03:13.35 | Sargun | (people in this city) |
| 03:13.40 | graphyx | some of them are just hanging out on IRC. |
| 03:13.42 | mheath | ..... |
| 03:14.07 | Sargun | graphyx, you think there is another decently intelligent pleasantonian on IRC? |
| 03:14.21 | Sargun | or one at all? |
| 03:14.22 | mheath | I don't know about the 'another' part. |
| 03:14.24 | graphyx | somewhere.. |
| 03:14.25 | Sargun | from my city. |
| 03:14.32 | graphyx | mheath: be nice |
| 03:14.33 | Sargun | mheath, haha |
| 03:14.36 | Sargun | very funny. -_- |
| 03:15.18 | herlo | Sargun: I am heading out to some bars in downtonw SF, figure I can catch a bit of the crazy nightlife here.... |
| 03:15.33 | graphyx | herlo taking a camera? |
| 03:15.34 | Sargun | herlo, yeah, just STAY OUT of castro |
| 03:15.57 | Sargun | this time of year there is usually one homicide |
| 03:16.02 | Sargun | and a few assualts |
| 03:16.02 | mheath | Listen to Sargun. Because, you know, he knows all about SF nightlife. |
| 03:16.11 | Sargun | mheath, remember I got a sister. |
| 03:16.16 | graphyx | and newpaper. |
| 03:16.25 | herlo | Sargun: just going up to grant and green area |
| 03:16.32 | herlo | graphyx: I can, why a newspaper? |
| 03:16.59 | mheath | Sargun: I am not sure what language you are speaking; I don't understand 'I got'. |
| 03:17.05 | graphyx | well if the newspaper says someone died in a bar... you don't have to have been there to know it. |
| 03:17.33 | herlo | graphyx: that'd make sense, but I don't think it does... |
| 03:17.46 | mheath | Usually the kind of bars that people regularly die in are ones that a decent person would know to avoid anyway. |
| 03:17.50 | graphyx | now you are just picking at threads. |
| 03:17.57 | herlo | graphyx: exactly |
| 03:17.59 | herlo | :0 |
| 03:18.01 | herlo | :) |
| 03:19.01 | Sargun | mheath, sorryz |
| 03:19.24 | Sargun | Iz amz soz sorryz becausez Iz can'tz speakz englishz likez otherz teenagerz |
| 03:19.38 | Sargun | rightz? |
| 03:20.44 | mheath | Using phrases like "I got" is worse than that, because it makes you sound like an uneducated hillbilly. |
| 03:20.50 | Sargun | hehe |
| 03:21.13 | graphyx | mheath: I was raised with the phrase, "I got". |
| 03:21.22 | graphyx | It came from being in New york area for 5 years. |
| 03:21.31 | graphyx | I have it more correct, but it still creeps into my language. |
| 03:21.38 | graphyx | so cut him some slach. |
| 03:21.50 | graphyx | it is proper for the UK, but not typically in america. |
| 03:22.04 | graphyx | but based on region it can be commonly used. |
| 03:22.34 | mheath | graphyx: based on region, 'ain't' can be commonly used, too. |
| 03:22.39 | graphyx | yep. |
| 03:24.04 | graphyx | very astute of you. |
| 03:38.39 | Sargun | I just realized I haven't been out of the house for a social reason (for people my age) in the past 4 months |
| 03:39.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay guys I need your help. |
| 03:39.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Who's the most famous troll on the internet? |
| 03:39.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Asian guy, lives in Houston |
| 03:40.15 | graphyx | n3tdev? |
| 03:40.19 | graphyx | n3td3v? |
| 03:40.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Doesn't sound familiar... |
| 03:40.40 | graphyx | I dunno. |
| 03:40.46 | graphyx | well g2g |
| 03:40.48 | graphyx | nite guys |
| 03:42.15 | Sargun | holy-crap |
| 03:43.59 | Sargun | my dad just spend a reasonable fortune on a freaking watch! |
| 03:44.05 | Sargun | think of how many cores that is |
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| 04:01.08 | Keighvin | ~lart swedishchef1's manhood |
| 04:01.44 | Sargun | ? |
| 04:02.33 | levi_home | Sargun: What kind of watch? |
| 04:05.25 | mheath | 150 year old pocket watch with a solid silver casing. |
| 04:06.16 | levi_home | That's pretty sweet. |
| 04:06.38 | levi_home | Not something you really want to carry around all the time, I'd imagine. |
| 04:06.43 | mheath | levi_home: nope :P |
| 04:06.52 | mheath | We actually just got it back |
| 04:06.58 | mheath | Spent 5 years at a repair shop. |
| 04:07.21 | mheath | Some brilliant guy who takes on too many repair projects, so theres a giant wait. |
| 04:07.40 | levi_home | It's nice to have a classy wristwatch or two. Expensive, but not so much that you can't wear them. |
| 04:07.48 | mheath | levi_home: it's pretty easy to have a very nice looking watch for very cheap now, too. |
| 04:07.54 | mheath | Thanks to modern materials and production |
| 04:08.11 | levi_home | Yeah, it is. |
| 04:08.57 | mheath | Hmm, along these lines: Does anyone know of a good place to buy a Tuxedo? |
| 04:09.22 | levi_home | I love my Seiko watch. It's got an analog face, it's made of titanium, and it keeps track of how many days in each month (including leap years and such). |
| 04:09.41 | levi_home | The only adjustments I have to make to it are backward and forward for daylight savings time. |
| 04:10.36 | levi_home | Men's Wearhouse has a small selection. Mr. Mac may have one kind of tux. Those are the only two places I looked at buying from, and then I decided to rent. |
| 04:11.25 | mheath | I wonder how much it would cost to buy one. |
| 04:11.55 | mheath | My occasions for wearing one are relatively few and far between, but when such occasions present themselves I always find myself under dressed. |
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| 04:15.23 | levi_home | I'd wait a while to buy one. |
| 04:16.12 | mheath | levi_home: what do you think of this: http://www.marlowwhite.com/images/catalog/96-010.jpg I have a dress uniform for my roll as an adult leader with that Sea Cadet group...I was thinking of getting an aditional jacket, sans-insignia, to have |
| 04:16.22 | mheath | That way I could have a normal civilian tux without having to buy the entire set |
| 04:16.31 | mheath | As the base set would double as the USNSCC dress uniform |
| 04:17.22 | levi_home | I'm no tuxedo expert; I've only rented them a couple of times, for weddings. |
| 04:18.02 | levi_home | That one's not really my style. Not crazy about the brass buttons or the cut on the front. |
| 04:18.21 | Sargun | levi_home, rolex |
| 04:18.33 | mheath | .... |
| 04:18.35 | levi_home | Sargun: Ahh, that must have been pretty expensive. |
| 04:18.42 | Sargun | freaking neighbors, need to kill'em |
| 04:19.13 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: hey, it could be worse...want to trade neighbors? |
| 04:19.34 | Sargun | mheath, status symbol |
| 04:19.50 | mheath | I don't think its a very effective one. |
| 04:19.57 | mheath | I don't think people notice watches |
| 04:20.05 | levi_home | mheath: www.buy4lesstuxedo.com looks to have pretty good prices. |
| 04:20.05 | mheath | OR care about them enough to realize that someone is wearing a rolex |
| 04:20.18 | Sargun | mheath, when your doing business and someone sees your wearing nice jewlery they are slightly more likely to give you the deal |
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| 04:21.07 | mheath | My point is, I can buy a watch at walmart with Nickel and Brass finish rather than Platinum and Gold, and you wouldn't notice the difference. |
| 04:21.21 | mheath | I really don't think people look closely at your watch. |
| 04:21.24 | elg | sure you would. one makes you poor |
| 04:21.26 | Sargun | I was looking at buying an old watch casing and putting an electronic watch parts in there |
| 04:21.34 | levi_home | mheath: There's a pretty clear difference between the two. I notice when people wear nice watches. |
| 04:21.41 | Sargun | I notice that my friends are wearing omegas |
| 04:21.45 | Sargun | and rolexes |
| 04:21.51 | mheath | ... |
| 04:21.53 | Sargun | they look much different than a walmart watch |
| 04:22.01 | mheath | you have 14 year old friends with Rolex's? |
| 04:22.20 | Sargun | How many times do I have to say I'm 15. |
| 04:22.22 | Sargun | ? |
| 04:22.47 | elg | 365 |
| 04:23.01 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 04:23.06 | elg | unless it's a leap year |
| 04:23.10 | mheath | How the heck does a 15 year old get money for a Rolex? |
| 04:23.10 | Sargun | mheath, what is your e-mail address? |
| 04:23.19 | Sargun | mheath, I live in pleasanton, remember? |
| 04:23.24 | mheath | Yes. |
| 04:23.38 | levi_home | mheath: One doesn't need money if one's parents buy it for you. |
| 04:23.48 | elg | you al missed out on some delicious spudnuts |
| 04:23.51 | Sargun | The place of psycologists, nuclear weapons engineers, and plastic surgeons. |
| 04:23.55 | mheath | Sargun: And my family holds land in an area wher ethe land value is far more than than that in Pleasanton. You don't see me having a rolex, though. |
| 04:24.08 | mheath | levi_home: are there kids who are really that spoiled? |
| 04:24.13 | levi_home | mheath: Yes. |
| 04:24.15 | mheath | *shudder* |
| 04:24.31 | levi_home | mheath: Your family doesn't appear to have a that kind of /liquid/ assets, though. |
| 04:24.45 | levi_home | You can't buy a watch with real estate. |
| 04:24.46 | Sargun | levi_home, consider that one of the seniors bought a porchse 911, the next day crashed it, and it was replaces in 3 weeks |
| 04:24.56 | mheath | levi_home: it does, it's just not spent in frivelous things like that. |
| 04:24.57 | Sargun | he crashed it into his freaking garage! |
| 04:25.06 | mheath | ..... |
| 04:25.11 | nick125_lappy | .......... |
| 04:25.19 | mheath | People actually live like this? |
| 04:25.22 | elg | I shyudder when I think there are people who *want* to be n the militaryy. *shrug* |
| 04:25.23 | Sargun | yes. |
| 04:25.26 | Sargun | Its called california |
| 04:25.30 | Sargun | elg, yah. |
| 04:25.36 | mheath | Sargun: you and everyone around you are spoiled brats. That is absolutely rediculous. |
| 04:25.37 | levi_home | There are families in Utah like that. |
| 04:26.04 | mheath | levi_home: Not common at all. I'm in one of the better neighborhoods in the Ogden area, and I don't see that happening. |
| 04:26.17 | mheath | A very LUCKY kid in my area will maybe get a new honda as a graduation present. |
| 04:26.20 | mheath | And I considered that bad. |
| 04:26.37 | elg | ogden isn't exactly the money pit |
| 04:26.48 | mheath | My dad does have a Porsche, though :) |
| 04:26.54 | mheath | He bought that 30 years ago |
| 04:26.58 | mheath | And spent 10 years paying it off |
| 04:27.10 | levi_home | The family of a friend of mine lives in Alpine, and some stuff like that happens there. |
| 04:27.38 | elg | me if I had the cash: porsche, airplane, por... airplane |
| 04:27.38 | levi_home | I could own a Porsche if I wanted to. It wouldn't be new, and probably wouldn't be in great shape... ;) |
| 04:27.45 | Sargun | My family isn't like that, but I'd say about 10% of the population here lives like that |
| 04:27.59 | mheath | levi_home: no, it would probably be new. Most older porsches are worth quite a bit |
| 04:28.08 | mheath | Whereas boxters and the like are pretty cheap. |
| 04:28.25 | levi_home | mheath: Um, I know what I'm talking about. It wouldn't be a classic, but it wouldn't be new either. |
| 04:29.25 | mheath | levi_home: I was just pointing out that one of the cheapest options in buying a porsche is a boxter, which are very new. |
| 04:30.02 | levi_home | There are used Porsches that are a lot cheaper than a new Boxter, but Boxters are indeed fairly affordable, as far as Porsches go. |
| 04:30.16 | mheath | I just find this odd, though. My family comes with a strong example of working hard, saving money, and not buying extravagant, uneeded things. |
| 04:30.25 | levi_home | I'm thinking more like a 924. |
| 04:30.59 | Sargun | watching toothpicks burn is fun. |
| 04:31.12 | mheath | My Grandpa started off as a boy on a farm in Colorado. Retired as a well educated man, and one of the main chemists for a major oil company. |
| 04:31.15 | levi_home | Watching (and hearing) black plastic combs burn is more fun. |
| 04:31.36 | elg | watching aol CDs microwave is fun |
| 04:31.37 | mheath | My Grandma was literally born in a single room house in the middle of nowwhere. She died with assets in excess of a million dollars. |
| 04:31.38 | Sargun | whats something fun, and quick to light on fire? |
| 04:31.44 | elg | aol cd |
| 04:31.46 | Sargun | mheath, cool. |
| 04:32.48 | levi_home | Yeah, probably a used 944 is the only Porsche I could afford right now. :) |
| 04:32.54 | mheath | It just kind of bugs me to see these young Californian couples who get a decent paying job, and spend extravegently. Well outside their means. |
| 04:33.07 | levi_home | There are currently 3 for sale in the area, ranging from $6k to $10k. |
| 04:33.13 | Sargun | mheath, why? |
| 04:33.16 | Sargun | Let them spend |
| 04:33.24 | Sargun | economy++; |
| 04:33.29 | Sargun | credit card companies++; |
| 04:33.49 | mheath | Wildly spending your money as soon as you earn it is not the best thing for the economy. |
| 04:34.10 | levi_home | This'd be a sweet little ride: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=208359992&dealer_id=58342890&car_year=1986&search_type=used&num_records=&keywordsfyc=&make=POR&transmission=&model=&distance=25&make2=&address=84070&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=10000&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=5000&body_code=0&end_year=2007&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=5 |
| 04:34.11 | Sargun | and its not limited to california only |
| 04:34.18 | levi_home | Yow, holy URL, batman. |
| 04:34.50 | Sargun | lol |
| 04:34.50 | mheath | yeah, no kidding. |
| 04:35.05 | mheath | My dad has a Porsche 914/6 body with a 911T engine in it |
| 04:35.30 | mheath | Given that the 911T engine was made for a car that weighs much, much more than my dad's 914/6 body......it is now a very, very fast car. |
| 04:35.43 | levi_home | That would be a far sweeter ride, of course, but way out of my price range. |
| 04:35.58 | mheath | meh. Probably only $30,000. |
| 04:36.21 | levi_home | One can apparently get into a used Boxter for $16-$20k right now. |
| 04:36.34 | levi_home | Like I have $30k to spend on a car. |
| 04:36.59 | mheath | It's just a rather low end, common 1970-era Porsche, modified with a very common 911 engine. |
| 04:37.43 | levi_home | It would take a lot of money to aquire said car, said engine, and the necessary parts and tools and time to assemble them properly and get it fixed up and looking good. |
| 04:37.54 | Sargun | marshmallows are fun |
| 04:38.08 | levi_home | It would be a fun project to take on some day, though. |
| 04:38.44 | mheath | levi_home: Yeah. My dad usually does all of our car repairs, and said engine transition he didn't feel comfortable with |
| 04:38.53 | mheath | Paid a very, very experienced Porsche mechanic to do it |
| 04:39.00 | mheath | even then, it ran into a lot of snags and problems |
| 04:39.08 | levi_home | I'll bet. |
| 04:39.14 | mheath | Took about a month to acquire all the parts, from a few dozen providers |
| 04:39.18 | levi_home | I used to read stories of Miata engine conversion projects online. |
| 04:39.26 | mheath | Had a few engine parts shipped off for refurbishing / refinishing |
| 04:39.53 | mheath | Then the engine modification took about 4 months to get everything done and all the snags worked out |
| 04:40.05 | levi_home | And I assembled a semi-custom turbo system for my Miata and installed it myself. |
| 04:40.18 | mheath | The car is amazing now, though |
| 04:40.37 | mheath | You really have to be careful accelerating down in first, because it pops up to redline before you even notice |
| 04:41.04 | mheath | Top speed of probably 180 now (never had it that fast, because the tires, suspension, and transmission aren't built for that) |
| 04:41.15 | levi_home | Yeah, the gearing was not designed for such a big motor. |
| 04:41.48 | levi_home | The 914 is really rather similar to the Miata, though a bit more refined and I think a little smaller and lighter. |
| 04:41.55 | elg | didn't the original porsche have the same engine as a vw bug? or vice versa? |
| 04:42.14 | levi_home | They were similar engines, at least. |
| 04:42.18 | mheath | No such thing as a VW bug back then :P |
| 04:42.18 | levi_home | air-cooled. |
| 04:42.27 | mheath | Yes, it was a modified VW engine. |
| 04:42.43 | elg | which is it? no vw bugs or modified vw engine? |
| 04:42.44 | mheath | Some careful refinement gave it some 10 HP more than the VW original, though |
| 04:43.18 | elg | http://flickr.com/photos/fugalh/285363282/ <-- our frankenpumpkin |
| 04:43.25 | mheath | elg: It was a VW engine, but not from a "VW Bug". This was back in the 1920's or 1930's, IIRC. There was no VW bug. |
| 04:43.39 | mheath | VW was a German government project to develop a very cheap, easy to produce car. |
| 04:43.57 | levi_home | Yeah, you can often coax a lot more out of the same engine by tweaking your intake, exhaust, valve timing, etc. |
| 04:44.27 | Sargun | electric FTW |
| 04:44.54 | mheath | elg: http://www.theautobahn.com/forum/f6_attachment.php?&attachmentid=119&twidth=320 |
| 04:44.56 | levi_home | Altering compression ratios, increasing volume by modifying the bore and stroke of the cylinders/pistons, etc. |
| 04:45.13 | mheath | It was a very weak car, even with the engine improvements, but very beautiful |
| 04:45.22 | mheath | I'd kill to have that car |
| 04:45.31 | levi_home | A given engine block and head can have massivly different outputs depending on the setup. |
| 04:45.54 | mheath | 40 hp @ 4000 rpm |
| 04:46.05 | mheath | Compression Ratio: 6.5 : 1 |
| 04:46.09 | mheath | Air Cooled Flat 4 |
| 04:46.26 | elg | the early VWs were basically KdF wagon ancestors (bug ancestors) |
| 04:46.33 | levi_home | Yeah, that's pretty slow. :) |
| 04:46.38 | elg | and built by porsche |
| 04:46.57 | elg | not exactly bugs, but quite similar |
| 04:47.25 | elg | e.g. the pics on this page: http://people.westminstercollege.edu/staff/bknorr/html/history2.htm |
| 04:47.33 | levi_home | Engines commonly have 9-10:1 compression ratios today, though higher ratios require premium gas. |
| 04:48.14 | levi_home | I've got some Need for Speed: Porsche Unlimited game. It's fun to putter around in the old ones. |
| 04:50.25 | mheath | http://www.buscatuning.com/blog/wp-content/fotos/marcas/porsche/carrera-gt/porsche-carrera-gt-mirage-gtr.jpg |
| 04:50.29 | mheath | That is my dream car. |
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| 04:51.20 | roscivs | Easy perl question for all you gurus ... |
| 04:51.43 | mheath | http://perso.numericable.fr/~gabuzo38/cars/Porsche%20Carrera%20GT_2%20800.jpg |
| 04:51.50 | levi_home | The Porsche 356 B got a significant power bump from the initial model... 110 HP. |
| 04:51.55 | roscivs | foreach my $foo (@bar) { |
| 04:51.55 | roscivs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.55 | roscivs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.55 | roscivs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.55 | roscivs | } |
| 04:52.14 | roscivs | This doesn't work ... what am I doing wrong? |
| 04:52.30 | levi_home | Using perl. |
| 04:52.35 | roscivs | lol |
| 04:52.48 | roscivs | do you have a better suggestion levi? I don't particularly like perl :) |
| 04:52.53 | mheath | levi_home: remember 40 HP at 8000? Porsches current street legal car has 605. :) |
| 04:53.18 | elg | do you need a comma on line 3? |
| 04:53.20 | mheath | 0-62 MPH in 3.9 seconds. mmmm. |
| 04:53.29 | mheath | Top speed of 205 |
| 04:53.45 | roscivs | elg: the error I'm getting is |
| 04:53.45 | roscivs | print() on closed filehandle FP at [program].pl |
| 04:53.47 | mheath | and, lmao, 10 MPG fuel efficiency :P |
| 04:53.59 | levi_home | mheath: Someone recently took a 1.8L Miata motor, bored/stroked it to 2.0L, and put 26lbs of turbo boost on it. Somewhere around 600hp, as well. |
| 04:54.26 | mheath | levi_home: but is the car stable at at speed? |
| 04:54.41 | mheath | Does it drive well, stay cooled, preform well, and handle the strain? |
| 04:54.57 | levi_home | Some crazy guy in England somewhere has a Vauxhall Victor with >1000hp that goes 0-60 in 1 second, and is street legal. |
| 04:54.57 | elg | here's my dream car: http://powersports.honda.com/assets/images/model/model_hero_shot/motorcycles/2007/large/Shadow_Aero.jpg |
| 04:55.00 | levi_home | mheath: Probably not, but it only cost a fraction of the money. :) |
| 04:55.44 | mheath | levi_home: The Carrera GT is actually relatively cheap, compared to competeing comparable cars by Ferrari and the like. |
| 04:55.53 | levi_home | Here's a sweet old Porsche: http://www.1motormart.com/gallery/53por01.jpg |
| 04:56.01 | mheath | $484,000 |
| 04:56.09 | levi_home | mheath: Yes, it's all relative. |
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| 04:56.52 | mheath | Porsche was a brilliant engineer |
| 04:56.56 | mheath | made the first hybrid car |
| 04:57.20 | levi_home | The Miata I mentioned was surely less than $50k. |
| 04:57.26 | levi_home | And most of the cost was probably the engine. :) |
| 04:57.51 | levi_home | Anyway, there's no real comparison between the two cars aside from the HP numbers. |
| 04:58.05 | elg | I could get one of these for $480K http://cirrusdesign.com/aircraft/gallery/srgts/20gts-1.jpg |
| 04:58.05 | mheath | mmm, the 356/1...I LOVE It. |
| 04:58.07 | levi_home | The point was to illustrate the meaninglessness of HP numbers. |
| 04:58.56 | mheath | levi_home: well, I doubt the miata can go 0 to 62 in 3.9 :) |
| 04:59.05 | levi_home | I watched a video on youtube or google video or something of a guy going to the McLaren dealership to pick up his new F1. |
| 04:59.39 | levi_home | mheath: I dunno what the Miata drag record is. |
| 05:00.31 | mheath | ]I want a 1963 904 Carerra GTS |
| 05:00.39 | elg | or http://stationair.cessna.com/pricelist.chtml |
| 05:00.52 | mheath | What I love about that car is, except for some slgiht characteristics of the cab shape, it easily fits in with modern sports cars |
| 05:00.56 | mheath | Despite being made 40 years ago |
| 05:01.53 | elg | er, http://stationair.cessna.com/exterior.chtml |
| 05:02.17 | mheath | http://www.seas.rochester.edu/~gort/lacarrera/LaCarrera_2002/LCP/118-1833_IMG.JPG |
| 05:02.49 | mheath | Only 120 were ever built, though |
| 05:02.54 | mheath | Doesn't seem like something I'm likely to ever own |
| 05:03.27 | levi_home | No, that totally looks like a 60s car. But I like it. :) |
| 05:03.57 | mheath | levi_home: thats not a good view. You should see the tail end. |
| 05:04.24 | mheath | It is VERY modern in appearance compared to other era Porsches |
| 05:04.53 | levi_home | Compared with other Porsches perhaps, but it totally looks like a 60s car. |
| 05:06.12 | levi_home | The tail especially looks 60s. |
| 05:07.07 | mheath | I want a Porsche airplane :P |
| 05:07.13 | mheath | they made airplane engines for a short while |
| 05:11.03 | mheath | I really want a cheap, fun little prosche cabriolet |
| 05:16.34 | levi_home | mheath: A friend of mine recently sold his 944 cabriolet. |
| 05:17.39 | levi_home | For cheap, fun convertibles, you can't beat Miatas, though. I got mine for $5k several years ago. |
| 05:20.23 | levi_home | There are currently four for sale in Utah for $4k or less. |
| 05:21.13 | levi_home | One of them has a 1.8l engine and only 88k miles. |
| 05:22.44 | levi_home | That's the most fun car you can buy for $4k, I'm pretty sure. :) |
| 05:24.47 | levi_home | Plus it's reliable, easy to work on, has a great online community for support, will run well for another 100k miles, and has lots of upgrade potential. |
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| 05:26.31 | levi_home | findlay: You missed me singing praises to the Miata. No one seemed to be listening. |
| 05:32.33 | findlay | levi_home: veracity magnaminously decided in the wisdom of their august prerogative to disable my internet access for a few hours tonight |
| 05:32.51 | findlay | without telling me, of course |
| 05:32.51 | levi_home | Fun for you. |
| 05:33.11 | findlay | probably working on the network again |
| 05:33.25 | findlay | but I can't really know because they don't tell me |
| 05:35.12 | findlay | why is it that every time my address is part of a multi To: field message I feel compelled to reply to the sender and educate them about the Bcc: field? |
| 05:51.55 | levi_home | These still shots from the movie look absolutely gorgeous: http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2006/Fountain/ |
| 05:55.06 | Tene | findlay: there are plenty of times when I want everyone I've emaild to know that I'm also emailing several other people. |
| 05:55.29 | findlay | Tene: me too |
| 05:55.52 | Tene | But more often than not it's mis-used in the emails you recieve? |
| 05:56.22 | findlay | but when you're sending out an official announcement to a bunch of people you shouldn't be giving away all those addresses |
| 05:56.31 | Tene | Ahh. Eww. |
| 05:56.44 | findlay | especially when not everybody knows everybody else |
| 05:57.07 | findlay | if anything, I always err on the side of Bcc |
| 05:57.21 | findlay | just because it's cleaner |
| 05:57.25 | Tene | nodnod |
| 06:03.12 | findlay | I'm in the mood for the lyric pieces of Grieg |
| 06:03.21 | findlay | excellent stuff |
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| 06:12.04 | findlay | yes, that means I've moved on to the piano music |
| 06:12.21 | findlay | which means I have only the sacred music and vocal music left |
| 06:12.34 | findlay | then I'm moving on to Beethoven (-: |
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| 08:09.17 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah | Read http://plug.org/node/28 | goozbach went to Texas de Brasil and all I got was this lousy topic |
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| 08:09.43 | Sargun | noooo! |
| 08:21.04 | Tene | ibot: dance |
| 08:21.05 | ibot | [dance] ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive.. |
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| 13:55.23 | goozbach | morning folkses |
| 13:55.36 | jsmith | Morning... |
| 13:55.42 | swedishchef1 | morning |
| 13:58.57 | goozbach | swedishchef1: it's not halloween anymore |
| 14:00.25 | goozbach | besides, muppet costumes don't wear well when they've been slept in |
| 14:04.10 | goozbach | your face is all scrunched up |
| 14:04.15 | goozbach | it's not pretty |
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| 14:07.13 | emcnabb | ~lart goozbach |
| 14:08.18 | goozbach | hmm |
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| 15:22.30 | vontrapp | ~onjoin - elg |
| 15:22.30 | ibot | ok, vontrapp |
| 15:25.07 | mheath | Hmmm. Wow, this vendor gave open source drivers with their USB wireless NIC |
| 15:26.12 | ^Migs^ | which vendor? |
| 15:26.23 | mheath | ^Migs^: Gigafast. |
| 15:26.27 | mheath | cheap, low end products |
| 15:26.30 | mheath | but I'm really impressed |
| 15:26.32 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 15:26.34 | ^Migs^ | that's cool |
| 15:29.48 | emcnabb | I guess the real question is... is it giga fast? |
| 15:30.49 | ^Migs^ | probably only megafast |
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| 15:35.53 | ^Migs^ | hey mheath. We're ordering in from Applebee's today. I told them you could hook us up with a great deal. |
| 15:36.13 | ^Migs^ | actually, I didn't, but it's fun putting people on the spot |
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| 15:57.59 | levi | Good morning. |
| 15:58.57 | Sargun | hi |
| 15:59.11 | vontrapp | i have one of those |
| 15:59.17 | mrpull | good morning! |
| 15:59.17 | Sargun | A morning? |
| 15:59.22 | vontrapp | drops the association a lot :/ |
| 15:59.24 | Sargun | Bad morning. |
| 15:59.41 | vontrapp | works well enough to my ap in my own appartment though |
| 16:00.05 | vontrapp | mheath: is this something that just came out? |
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| 16:02.55 | Sargun | hiya atoponce |
| 16:03.02 | atoponce | hello |
| 16:03.04 | Sargun | your not here to kill me or anything? |
| 16:03.16 | Sargun | That angel of death stuff was just a temporary job, right? |
| 16:03.19 | atoponce | nah. i had my rounds yesterday... |
| 16:03.26 | atoponce | once a year |
| 16:03.43 | Sargun | ah |
| 16:03.45 | Sargun | cool. |
| 16:03.46 | atoponce | it's not your time to go yet |
| 16:03.54 | Sargun | :-) |
| 16:03.59 | Sargun | At least until next year. |
| 16:04.06 | Sargun | Cars seem to hate me though |
| 16:04.26 | atoponce | sorry to hear that |
| 16:04.34 | Mecworks | Now this is cool: http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/009070.php |
| 16:04.43 | Mecworks | Maybe a bit eccentric but cool IMO... |
| 16:06.18 | Sargun | Sweet. |
| 16:06.48 | levi | My cars hate me lately, too. |
| 16:07.05 | levi | One has expired registration as of yesterday and didn't pass the emissions test while I tried to renew it. |
| 16:07.16 | levi | And another one has a dead battery because I haven't driven it in weeks. |
| 16:07.30 | mrpull | speaking of car trouble... |
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| 16:07.54 | mrpull | can anyone suggest a shop in northern utah county to take my Durango to? |
| 16:08.12 | mrpull | I think i've get a bad bearing (sp?) on the front left side |
| 16:09.14 | Jayce^ | wtf Mecworks what are you doing in here.... :) |
| 16:12.00 | Sargun | Are there any decent CDMA/EV-DO compatible Smartphones out there? |
| 16:13.33 | Mecworks | Jayce^, yeah, I really don't know....a bit like a duck out of water...!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:14.02 | Jayce^ | must be job fishing again :-p |
| 16:14.10 | Jayce^ | or you broke up :) |
| 16:14.47 | Mecworks | suck! You totally know me. But amazingly, none of those things happend (yet). |
| 16:14.56 | Jayce^ | wow! |
| 16:15.07 | Mecworks | Yeah, wow! |
| 16:15.16 | Mecworks | Jayce^, do you snowboard? |
| 16:15.18 | Jayce^ | how goes novell? |
| 16:15.23 | Mecworks | good |
| 16:15.27 | Jayce^ | Mecworks, I enjoy, but am a beginner |
| 16:16.21 | Mecworks | ah, same here. I just got a board yesterday. I'm just looking for some people to go with a bit this year. I'm jsut starting out so you'll probably walk all over me. |
| 16:16.33 | Mecworks | but I used to skate a lot (if you can beleive that!) |
| 16:16.57 | Jayce^ | no, I'm a beginner :) so we'd both crash a lot |
| 16:17.28 | vontrapp | i'm a board, i'm a go with you |
| 16:17.42 | Jayce^ | I can probably go, but the wife can't this winter :) |
| 16:17.45 | Jayce^ | of course, she's a skiier |
| 16:18.57 | vontrapp | although i'm a ski instructor and not a board instructor, i feel pretty comfortable giving board pointers |
| 16:19.04 | goozbach | I'll be making a snow-sports trip in jan or feb this next year |
| 16:19.27 | goozbach | we should have a #utah ski trip |
| 16:19.48 | vontrapp | yay! #utah ski trip on goozbach!! |
| 16:20.03 | Jayce^ | awesome, thanks goozbach :) |
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| 16:21.05 | vontrapp | i just hope goozbach gets enough snow this year |
| 16:23.00 | goozbach | I'm hoping that brekenridge has enough snow in three weeks |
| 16:24.29 | goozbach | doesn't look too promsing |
| 16:28.00 | mheath | I haven't been in years |
| 16:28.03 | vontrapp | ~spell inproportionately |
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| 16:30.21 | elg | Mecworks: the wacky parking lot is cool. the pseudo-zen analysis is not |
| 16:31.48 | graphyx | the parking lot is interesting.. |
| 16:32.51 | Mecworks | elg, true. |
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| 16:33.38 | Mecworks | goozbach, I agree. I think we could get some nightskiing in at Brighton too. |
| 16:34.25 | mrpull | ah man! bob barker is retiring? |
| 16:35.04 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 16:35.05 | ^Migs^ | 83 years old |
| 16:35.17 | ^Migs^ | been on the show for 35 years or so |
| 16:35.21 | ^Migs^ | that's insane |
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| 16:37.52 | herlo | that'll mean the end to "The Price is Right" |
| 16:38.39 | mrpull | i hope they keep barker's beauties! |
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| 16:44.36 | ^Migs^ | why would it end? Why not get another host? |
| 16:44.53 | graphyx | cause the price was wrong... |
| 16:45.07 | levi | http://www.nicbommarito.com/drawing/shurikenjive/003.html |
| 16:45.07 | mrpull | barker wasn't the first host IIRC |
| 16:46.22 | elg | he's the only host that matters |
| 16:46.34 | elg | they could show reruns and nobody would notice |
| 16:46.49 | elg | who's going to remember a price is right episode from 35 years ago? |
| 16:47.16 | elg | it's like peanuts |
| 16:47.48 | ^Migs^ | no, he was the first and only host |
| 16:48.00 | graphyx | elg: The stuff on it might give it away. |
| 16:48.08 | ^Migs^ | on The New Price Is Right anyway |
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| 16:48.19 | graphyx | And we have a 21" black and white tv from intelliview. |
| 16:48.28 | graphyx | Bob, I think it costs 2399 |
| 16:48.36 | graphyx | linda, you guessed too low.. |
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| 16:52.28 | Keighvin | ~lart Jayce^'s manhood |
| 16:55.39 | graphyx | soulds like something his wife could do.. |
| 17:05.46 | vontrapp | is it better to save as .doc of older versions (6.0) of word or newer versions (word 2000)? |
| 17:06.27 | levi | In Word itself? |
| 17:06.32 | mrpull | vontrapp: who is the audience? how 'bout RTF or PDF? |
| 17:06.37 | levi | Or are you saving from something else to open in Word? |
| 17:07.30 | levi | Newer versions of Word have a 'compatibility report' for your document, so you can see what kind of loss to expect when saving/opening in different formats and versions. |
| 17:07.31 | vontrapp | it has to be doc (assignment requirement) |
| 17:07.39 | vontrapp | just wondering what's the most portable one |
| 17:08.14 | mrpull | wikipedia claims the original TPIR was hosted by Bill Cullen |
| 17:08.56 | elg | what if you make an rtf named .doc? |
| 17:08.57 | vontrapp | i'm going with the oldest |
| 17:09.35 | mrpull | vontrapp: if it is a basic document it isn't going to matter |
| 17:10.26 | mrpull | if it has extravagant formatting it might matter. but if someone requires you to submit a .doc, they should be willing to accept any version of .doc (and there are free viewers for every version of .doc) |
| 17:13.45 | elg | you should find an odd version of word and make a .doc that doesn't work in whatever version he has |
| 17:14.59 | mrpull | an old 1.0 version would be fun |
| 17:24.04 | levi | This is pretty clever: http://www.uselesspickles.com/triangles/demo.html |
| 17:26.20 | ^Migs^ | wow |
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| 17:31.04 | Keighvin | I'm impressed! |
| 17:31.57 | ^Migs^ | me 2 |
| 17:32.12 | ^Migs^ | more impressed than u |
| 17:36.08 | vontrapp | darn, i can't rotate it |
| 17:36.39 | ^Migs^ | yeah, that sucks |
| 17:36.57 | ^Migs^ | too bad it's not VRML |
| 17:40.10 | mrpull | ^migs^: it is a shame VRML didn't take off. browsing the web would have been soooo much more natural if it was Three DEEE! |
| 17:42.53 | ^Migs^ | I agree mrpull |
| 17:43.04 | ^Migs^ | everything is better when it's 3-d |
| 17:43.15 | ^Migs^ | like in movies |
| 17:43.53 | ^Migs^ | how they alway show routine computer tasks taking place with nifty 3d interfaces, like file browsing, program loading |
| 17:43.55 | ^Migs^ | etc |
| 17:43.58 | ^Migs^ | ubercool |
| 17:45.47 | ^Migs^ | I normally don't hit the ENTER button that much |
| 17:46.01 | ^Migs^ | in the middle of sentences at least |
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| 17:46.47 | emcnabb | just got a flu shot; I'm surprised at how little it hurt |
| 17:46.59 | ^Migs^ | I'm getting flu shots in a few days |
| 17:47.26 | levi | I've never bothered with flu shots. |
| 17:47.42 | ^Migs^ | sucks to be you |
| 17:47.52 | ^Migs^ | getting flu shots is the COOL thing to do. Everybody's doing it. |
| 17:49.13 | emcnabb | levi: it's my first one (that I remember at least) |
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| 17:59.31 | xbmodder | Flu shots never hurt. |
| 17:59.34 | xbmodder | Unless you get sick |
| 17:59.38 | xbmodder | after them. |
| 18:00.38 | Keighvin | ~lart findlay the super human |
| 18:01.10 | mrpull | have you guys got the "flu mist"? |
| 18:01.11 | mrpull | that is a trip |
| 18:01.23 | findlay | I wonder what it's like to be shot because of flu |
| 18:03.45 | emcnabb | findlay: or what's it's like to be shot regardless of if you have the flu or not |
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| 18:03.58 | emcnabb | ~shoot findlay |
| 18:04.05 | ibot | ACTION shoots findlay in the ear with a quantum singularity weapon! |
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| 18:05.57 | levi | Does it really matter where someone is hit with a quantum singularity weapon? |
| 18:06.39 | findlay | hey guys, I just figured out how to download the internet: `tar cf - www | gzip -9v > ~/www.tar.gz` |
| 18:09.50 | manithree | e-mail me a copy when you get it downloaded, k? |
| 18:13.06 | jsmith | findlay: Isn't that what AOL was sending me in the mail for the past 5 years? |
| 18:13.38 | manithree | No wonder they switched from floppies to CDs |
| 18:14.03 | ^Migs^ | now if only we could figure out how to delete the Internet |
| 18:14.52 | ^Migs^ | whoa: http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_305004735.html |
| 18:17.08 | findlay | those shoot commands are great |
| 18:17.12 | findlay | ~shoot ^Migs^ |
| 18:17.16 | ibot | ACTION shoots ^Migs^ in the eye with a phase pistol! |
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| 18:18.21 | ^Migs^ | ~lart findlay |
| 18:18.27 | findlay | ~shoot emcnabb |
| 18:18.29 | ibot | ACTION shoots emcnabb in the foot with a cork gun! |
| 18:18.33 | ^Migs^ | ~pwndsauce findlay |
| 18:18.34 | ibot | A ginormous opened bottle of Pwnsauce in the sky tips over and engulfs findlay in a torrent of pwnsauce, leaving them with a shirt stain that reads "Pwned". |
| 18:19.03 | findlay | ~shoot pwn |
| 18:19.04 | ibot | ACTION shoots pwn in the foot with a glue gun! |
| 18:20.00 | ^Migs^ | ~pwn findlay |
| 18:20.07 | ^Migs^ | how could there not be a ~pwn command? |
| 18:22.22 | goozbach | ^Migs^: make one |
| 18:23.40 | goozbach | ~pwn $sjansen is <action> logs into the machine $sjansen is sitting at and pulls a fast one. |
| 18:23.41 | ibot | okay, goozbach |
| 18:23.48 | goozbach | ~pwn migs |
| 18:23.50 | ibot | ACTION logs into the machine migs is sitting at and pulls a fast one. |
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| 18:24.01 | findlay | $sjansen. |
| 18:24.03 | findlay | (-: |
| 18:26.57 | goozbach | I use him as my foo varible |
| 18:27.16 | goozbach | seeing as how he uses me as his |
| 18:32.08 | xbmodder | FOO! |
| 18:33.07 | findlay | D? |
| 18:37.49 | Keighvin | ~tick |
| 18:37.56 | ibot | Yeah, well, don't count your weasels before they pop, dink! |
| 18:41.16 | findlay | ~htmltidy++ |
| 18:41.35 | findlay | ~htmltidy+=alot |
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| 18:56.29 | ^Migs^ | http://www.drudgereport.com/irak.jpg |
| 18:57.03 | Mister_Ed | lol |
| 18:57.03 | graphyx | That's amuzing.. |
| 18:58.41 | Keighvin | ~pwndsauce ^Migs^ |
| 18:58.42 | ibot | A ginormous opened bottle of Pwnsauce in the sky tips over and engulfs ^Migs^ in a torrent of pwnsauce, leaving them with a shirt stain that reads "Pwned". |
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| 19:00.06 | ^Migs^ | NO. |
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| 19:01.56 | xbmodder | jio |
| 19:01.58 | xbmodder | ji |
| 19:01.59 | xbmodder | i |
| 19:02.01 | xbmodder | hi |
| 19:03.05 | Keighvin | ^Migs^: While there wasn't a ~pwn command directly, there was at least the ~pwndsauce cmd. |
| 19:03.25 | ^Migs^ | Yes, I'm aware of the ~pwndsauce command. |
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| 19:03.49 | ^Migs^ | I did, after all, use it on findlay. |
| 19:03.51 | xbmodder | whats the ignition temperature of black power |
| 19:03.58 | xbmodder | powder? |
| 19:05.11 | ^Migs^ | a million degrees |
| 19:05.31 | jsmith | xbmodder: Hotter than the temperature required to singe eyebrows |
| 19:07.08 | xbmodder | good. |
| 19:07.35 | xbmodder | I wanna build a not-as-destructive version of the MI:1 gum. |
| 19:07.40 | xbmodder | as a gag. |
| 19:07.47 | xbmodder | maybe a smoke poof |
| 19:08.12 | Keighvin | xbmodder: literal black powder is highly combustable - can be set off by a spark. |
| 19:08.42 | xbmodder | uh, bad. |
| 19:08.59 | xbmodder | What something a little safer, but easily set off? |
| 19:09.11 | xbmodder | I already found a good method for delay |
| 19:09.32 | goozbach | safer and easier to set off are most of the times mutually exclusive |
| 19:09.42 | xbmodder | mhm. |
| 19:09.55 | goozbach | MI:1 gun? |
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| 19:10.35 | goozbach | FYI any explosion you cause will be treated as a felony |
| 19:10.45 | goozbach | new federal law |
| 19:10.50 | xbmodder | Great. |
| 19:10.54 | goozbach | I found that out the hard way |
| 19:11.06 | xbmodder | even if its on private property? |
| 19:11.09 | xbmodder | like my own? |
| 19:11.14 | xbmodder | or... |
| 19:11.14 | goozbach | xbmodder: AB flash powder is relatively safe |
| 19:11.27 | goozbach | when used in SMALL quanites |
| 19:11.53 | goozbach | but I wouldn't be too close, or use gunpowder fuses :( |
| 19:12.42 | goozbach | I now have only %30 of my hearing in my left ear which taught me that. |
| 19:12.43 | Keighvin | Or something with a lot less punch and very predictable ignition, like nitrocellulose. |
| 19:13.10 | goozbach | nitrocelluose has less punch than black powder? |
| 19:13.19 | goozbach | Keighvin: who you trying to kill? |
| 19:13.24 | goozbach | or at least maim |
| 19:13.33 | xbmodder | I'm really only looking forsmoke |
| 19:13.35 | xbmodder | goozbach: ouchy. |
| 19:13.39 | xbmodder | me. |
| 19:13.46 | goozbach | smoke |
| 19:13.53 | xbmodder | yes. |
| 19:13.58 | goozbach | A-B flash with smoke pellets |
| 19:14.02 | xbmodder | cool. |
| 19:14.06 | goozbach | s/pellets/flakes/ |
| 19:14.37 | goozbach | you have to have a good mortar, and electric ignition is the only method I'd use |
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| 19:15.00 | goozbach | good luck finding a place that will sell YOU that however |
| 19:15.25 | xbmodder | I'll assume a minor can't get this |
| 19:15.31 | xbmodder | lol |
| 19:15.51 | xbmodder | I found that my hardware store has some sort of potassium solution that you can mix |
| 19:15.56 | xbmodder | and it burns |
| 19:15.57 | xbmodder | quite wel |
| 19:16.04 | xbmodder | but that is VERY danfgersou |
| 19:16.58 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_powder |
| 19:17.07 | goozbach | mag+potNitrate |
| 19:17.37 | xbmodder | ah. |
| 19:17.39 | goozbach | I claim no responsiblity for your actions |
| 19:17.53 | xbmodder | It won't light my hand on fire the second the two solutions contant? |
| 19:17.55 | xbmodder | contact? |
| 19:18.01 | goozbach | I suggest you get a pyrotechnition to do anything you want to |
| 19:18.21 | xbmodder | Hm. |
| 19:18.42 | xbmodder | Where can I find one on the cheap? |
| 19:18.58 | xbmodder | like $50 for the device? |
| 19:25.20 | Keighvin | goozbach: nitrocellulose = flashcotton. |
| 19:25.35 | Keighvin | Commonly used in magic shows for a controllable pyrotechnics in close proximity. |
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| 19:31.10 | goozbach | Keighvin: in high enough conentrations guncotton can be MORE explosive than black powder |
| 19:31.35 | goozbach | making it is pretty messy and dangerous |
| 19:32.15 | Keighvin | But can be purchased in low-concentrations on the cheap and is easy to contro. |
| 19:32.18 | Keighvin | control, rather. |
| 19:32.35 | goozbach | as a matter of fact nitrocellous is used in non black-powder gunpowder |
| 19:32.51 | Keighvin | Not as likely to accidentally do damage to oneself unless gross amounts of stupidity are applied. |
| 19:33.55 | elg | in which case no explosives are necessary |
| 19:35.36 | goozbach | and we are talking about xbmodder here... |
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| 19:49.55 | rsimpkins | FYI - plug.org updated with meeting details for next week. |
| 19:50.06 | rsimpkins | bang the gong. |
| 19:50.10 | goozbach | boom! |
| 19:50.12 | goozbach | flash |
| 19:50.15 | goozbach | bang! |
| 19:50.16 | goozbach | woot |
| 19:50.23 | hckrSid | Any ubuntu experts here? |
| 19:52.15 | hckrSid | I'm having this strange problem on edgy that I didn't have with dapper... as soon as I connect an external display (CRT/Projector) to my laptop, it brings me to the login screen. |
| 19:52.15 | rsimpkins | hckrSid: What's up? |
| 19:52.26 | rsimpkins | Cool. |
| 19:52.41 | rsimpkins | That is probably a feature. :) |
| 19:52.49 | rsimpkins | Does it restart X windows? |
| 19:53.07 | hckrSid | I think thats what it is doing... |
| 19:53.28 | rsimpkins | It probably detects the new monitor and is restarting so the new monitor will work. |
| 19:53.49 | hckrSid | On dapper I could plug in an external display at any time, and it would simply show whatever was on the laptop LCD |
| 19:54.07 | hckrSid | So... this is really a step back. :-| |
| 19:56.04 | rsimpkins | Have you tried #ubuntu ? |
| 19:56.06 | hckrSid | I suspect it could be ACPI, or it could be an ATI driver issue. |
| 19:56.37 | rsimpkins | It may be acpi dirven - boot with it off and see what happens. |
| 19:56.48 | hckrSid | Yea... #ubuntu is a mess... no one seems to know. |
| 19:57.32 | hckrSid | Do I just turn it off in services? |
| 19:57.59 | rsimpkins | hckrSid: I think there is a kernel boot option for it. You might have to do a quick google on it. |
| 19:58.02 | manithree | noacpi |
| 19:58.24 | hckrSid | Ah... ok... thanks! |
| 19:58.48 | hckrSid | brb |
| 19:59.01 | rsimpkins | I don't mess with acpi too much. |
| 20:07.34 | Tene | Hmm. I believe that's my first post to plug. |
| 20:08.21 | Tene | Yeah, I think it is. |
| 20:14.01 | graphyx | Ok I need some help learning pcre stuff. |
| 20:14.09 | graphyx | Can anyone help me decypher this: !"/^\w+\s+[^\n\s\?]*\.jsp/smi? |
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| 20:16.42 | hckrSid | It was acpi after all. |
| 20:17.38 | hckrSid | I restarted with acpid turned off... and now plugging in an external display works as before. :) |
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| 20:22.40 | hckrSid | Anyone know how to set up acpi to ignore an event? |
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| 20:29.05 | redbeard1 | ~lart neybar |
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| 20:33.47 | vontrapp | ibot, i thought i told you to take off that onjoin |
| 20:33.55 | ibot | You thought i told you to take off that onjoin? |
| 20:34.02 | vontrapp | ibot, yes |
| 20:34.03 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 20:34.12 | vontrapp | ibot, why didn't you do it? |
| 20:36.46 | vontrapp | ibot, do it |
| 20:36.47 | ibot | ACTION does it. |
| 20:37.13 | vontrapp | ibot, do a jig |
| 20:37.14 | ibot | ACTION does a jig. |
| 20:40.17 | goozbach | ohh |
| 20:40.20 | goozbach | jigs |
| 20:44.43 | emcnabb | ~jig goozbach |
| 20:53.25 | rsimpkins | anyone here go to BYU? The CEO of Omniture is speaking there today. |
| 20:53.54 | rsimpkins | It is actually open to the public. |
| 20:55.27 | macnewbold | rsimpkins: have an URL to the info? |
| 20:55.41 | macnewbold | I'm not going, but I bet someone from #uphpu might be interested |
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| 21:08.30 | levi | rsimpkins: If it's part of the colloquium series, it is open to the public. |
| 21:09.44 | macnewbold | rsimpkins, levi: do either of you know a URL that gives the relevant details about the event? |
| 21:13.32 | levi | Not off the top of my head, no. |
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| 21:25.09 | elg | if it's a colloquium, check www.cs.byu.edu |
| 21:25.20 | ^Migs^ | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061101/ap_on_fe_st/costume_hitler |
| 21:25.20 | elg | if it's not, use your uberpsychic powers |
| 21:26.38 | elg | what the heck. it's called halloween |
| 21:26.52 | elg | you're supposed to dress up like evil people/animals/monsters/things |
| 21:27.15 | elg | I don't get his argument about parody though |
| 21:27.55 | ^Migs^ | "He was doing it in the spirit of Monty Python and Mel Brooks." |
| 21:28.16 | ^Migs^ | it's okay, because the kid has Jewishness in the family |
| 21:28.26 | ^Migs^ | if he didn't, it would be wrong. Very wrong. |
| 21:28.53 | ^Migs^ | the other day a kid in one of my schools got kicked out for wearing a kilt |
| 21:29.37 | graphyx | wow... |
| 21:29.44 | graphyx | Way to kick scottish ancestry in the nuts... |
| 21:30.33 | ^Migs^ | the kid sent me an email and I forwarded it to someone I knew would discipline the principal who kicked him out |
| 21:30.34 | elg | ^Migs^: are you serious? or sarcastic? |
| 21:30.42 | ^Migs^ | I'm serious. |
| 21:30.50 | ^Migs^ | wait, serious about what? |
| 21:31.05 | elg | 14:28 < ^Migs^> if he didn't, it would be wrong. Very wrong. |
| 21:31.19 | elg | I believe the kilt story, sadly |
| 21:31.24 | ^Migs^ | I'm commenting on how people generally think |
| 21:32.00 | ^Migs^ | like how black people can say the "n" word. |
| 21:32.24 | elg | good, because I think it's wholly ridiculous |
| 21:33.04 | ^Migs^ | I think YOU'RE ridiculous |
| 21:37.54 | levi | How come it's okay to dress up as the devil, but not Hitler? |
| 21:38.43 | graphyx | it's redundant hitler was the devil. |
| 21:38.47 | graphyx | just kidding. |
| 21:39.05 | graphyx | cause the media can worship the devil, but not hitler yet. |
| 21:39.53 | Jayce^ | Tene, no fair reading the rules ! |
| 21:40.05 | Tene | hehehe |
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| 21:41.07 | manithree | ^Migs^: Or a suicide bomber? http://www.teambio.org/2006/10/halloween-costume-what-on-earth-have-we-become/ |
| 21:41.22 | Tene | according to google, the way to read from stdin in php is fopen('php://stdin'); |
| 21:41.28 | manithree | I think they're all funny |
| 21:41.51 | levi | php://stdin? How bizarre is that. |
| 21:41.58 | Jayce^ | nasty |
| 21:42.57 | levi | Crap, I may not be able to make it to this month's PLUG meeting. :/ |
| 21:43.01 | levi | My parents are flying in that evening. |
| 21:43.20 | graphyx | manithree: How irresponsible. Might as well dress up as mahommad (SP!!!) with a bomb in your turbin. |
| 21:43.46 | Jayce^ | levi, have your wife pick them up :) |
| 21:43.51 | Jayce^ | you of all people should love this one |
| 21:44.07 | elg | just say it's a professional meeting |
| 21:44.10 | Tene | another part of google claims that a file descriptor STDIN is globally available |
| 21:44.19 | elg | levi: that's what I want to know |
| 21:44.22 | Jayce^ | elg, that's what works for my wife :) |
| 21:44.48 | elg | your wife doesn't know plug meetings from work meetings/ |
| 21:46.16 | levi | Hmm, my parents' flight arrives at 9:45pm. |
| 21:46.22 | Jayce^ | only when she has to make a cake for one :) |
| 21:46.35 | elg | need an airplane book |
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| 21:47.10 | mheath | gah, I hate some people at my work |
| 21:47.18 | elg | any recommendations? I'm in the mood for something like clancy |
| 21:47.29 | elg | and I'm sure there's some clancy I haven't read. lots probably |
| 21:47.34 | graphyx | 4th of july? |
| 21:47.38 | graphyx | The book based off of the movie? |
| 21:47.39 | levi | So, I could probably go to PLUG, but not stay for the whole thing. |
| 21:47.40 | graphyx | j/k. |
| 21:47.46 | emcnabb | mheath: hey there Sea Cadet |
| 21:47.59 | jsmith | elg: Cardinal of the Kremlin |
| 21:48.09 | mheath | The "You suck at everything, and I'm god, and I feel so vindicated because you're not doing a very good job (lets just ignore the fact that this is your first day doing this job)" guy |
| 21:48.10 | jsmith | elg: One of Clancey's earlier books, and one of my favorites |
| 21:48.38 | mrpull | dang mheath, where do you work? |
| 21:48.58 | mheath | apleebees. I was working as a host today (usually work as ToGos) |
| 21:49.22 | mrpull | how badly could you screw up as a host? |
| 21:49.42 | mheath | this this moronic kid who I've just had a personality clash. What annoys me is that while he's acting like he's god compared to me, he's really lazy and doesn't do a good job |
| 21:50.00 | graphyx | mheath: I would like to point out that there are tons of jerks out there. But on the other hand being able to handle people like these and sometimes getting them to like you is one of the invaluable skills to have. |
| 21:50.23 | mheath | mrpull: Its the first day I've worked at seating tables. We are a VERY busy restraunt with a fast turnaround, and it can be a bit tricky to seat properly |
| 21:50.43 | mheath | IE, seat without giving a server two new tables in a row, and making sure all the servers have an equal number of tables |
| 21:50.58 | mheath | And doing all that when you have the people that demand a certain type of table.. |
| 21:51.07 | mheath | Not bad, just takes a bit of experience. Experience I lack. |
| 21:51.49 | mheath | graphyx: Yeah. I'm usually very good with everyone |
| 21:52.14 | graphyx | mheath: no offence, but it doesn't seem that way when you chat in here #utah.. |
| 21:52.31 | mheath | graphyx: I am very different online, I promise you |
| 21:52.39 | graphyx | mheath: Good to know. |
| 21:52.51 | mheath | I am usually just a very reserved person, and very polite to everyone |
| 21:53.01 | mheath | I get a long with everyone really well |
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| 21:53.26 | mheath | What I didn't understand is how this guy could act like I'm doing such a horrible job when I was very open about the fact that I am very inexperienced and that I myself didn't think I was doing a good job |
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| 21:54.11 | graphyx | mheath: umm... that's the way jerks are. |
| 21:54.15 | mheath | Me: "What table do you think I should take them to?" Him: *GLARE* "Your the genius, go figure it out. |
| 21:54.23 | graphyx | mheath: don't bother trying to analyze it, just accept it and move on. |
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| 21:55.06 | mheath | My paycheck wasn't nearly as much as I was hoping it would be today. |
| 21:55.39 | mheath | I worked 10 shifts in one week, but with ToGos the shifts are very short. Apparently I only averaged 2.9 hours per shift.. |
| 21:55.55 | mheath | Paycheck only came out to $200 |
| 21:56.21 | mheath | But that's without tips. tips make it more worthwhile |
| 21:58.09 | mheath | mmm, I really need to go eat at Carls Jr. more |
| 21:58.30 | mheath | They're very good for fast food. |
| 21:58.34 | emcnabb | yummy |
| 21:59.01 | mheath | They've got these new Malted Milkshakes |
| 21:59.01 | SB1-Work | I really just might have to go buy a bag of them |
| 21:59.01 | emcnabb | it was king sized |
| 21:59.05 | mheath | fresh made, with handscooped ice cream |
| 21:59.09 | mheath | and real whipped cream |
| 21:59.09 | emcnabb | 240 calories |
| 21:59.21 | mheath | ~eat Tene |
| 21:59.24 | ibot | ACTION eats Tene and falls over dead |
| 21:59.31 | findlay | how do you change the UI theme in firefox? |
| 21:59.44 | mheath | findlay: Tools -> Theme or something like that? |
| 21:59.51 | mheath | You can download more in .xpi files |
| 22:00.26 | findlay | there is no such menu |
| 22:00.40 | mheath | hmm, what is it... |
| 22:00.44 | mrpull | tools addons? |
| 22:00.59 | mheath | sorry, I don't have a computer with firefox on it infront of me, and I'm bad at remembering these things. One sec. |
| 22:01.01 | findlay | that's it |
| 22:01.12 | mrpull | I think it was Tools | Extensions before 2.x |
| 22:01.21 | mheath | mrpull: I think before 2.x it was seperate |
| 22:01.28 | mheath | there was Tools | Extensions and Tools | Themes |
| 22:01.52 | findlay | unfortunately the default theme in 2.0 wastes incredible amounts of space on the locaion and search bars and around the tabs |
| 22:02.09 | mheath | indeed. |
| 22:03.33 | findlay | and it's quite slow |
| 22:04.58 | mheath | This laptop is dieing |
| 22:05.05 | mheath | I should have never remoted Windows 98SE from it |
| 22:05.22 | mheath | I can't seem to get anything else on it, now, though 98SE wasn't having any problems |
| 22:05.41 | mheath | Weird problem with the IDE controller, I think, because both the CD-ROM and the HDD cause lots of errors in Linux |
| 22:18.12 | findlay | anybody know how to get rid of those stupid buttons that hang off the right of the location and search bars? |
| 22:18.38 | Keighvin | findlay: white-out. |
| 22:18.39 | mheath | Edit the theme |
| 22:18.49 | mheath | I know thats a themeable attribute |
| 22:19.02 | mheath | I don't think theres an easy way to change that with an existing theme, though |
| 22:19.15 | findlay | mheath: why don't you do it for me? |
| 22:19.25 | mheath | I'll pass |
| 22:19.29 | mheath | thanks for the offer, though :) |
| 22:19.34 | findlay | fine |
| 22:19.49 | findlay | ~shoot mheath for not serving my needs |
| 22:19.51 | ibot | ACTION shoots mheath for not serving my needs in the eye with a phase pistol! |
| 22:21.42 | mheath | you remind me of a bad customer at applebees |
| 22:21.49 | mheath | the difference is, there I have to appologize and suck up to them :( |
| 22:22.16 | mheath | be back later |
| 22:22.22 | emcnabb | later |
| 22:24.47 | findlay | retal |
| 22:26.53 | Jayce^ | no, retail is where he'll be working next... |
| 22:27.36 | mheath | no, government is hopefully whre I'll be working next |
| 22:28.06 | findlay | ~govern mheath |
| 22:28.36 | emcnabb | mheath: aren't you going to college? |
| 22:28.51 | mheath | emcnabb: Maybe. |
| 22:29.22 | mrpull | findlay: are you looking for this? http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/firefox_internet_explorer/ |
| 22:29.23 | mrpull | ;-) |
| 22:39.44 | elg | rsimpkins: how many times are you going to change the new user registration emails? |
| 22:41.24 | rsimpkins | elg: huh? |
| 22:41.37 | elg | every time I turn around my procmail rule isn't working again |
| 22:41.47 | rsimpkins | I've not made any changes - let's chat. |
| 22:43.24 | findlay | mrpull: I so want that |
| 22:49.23 | Jayce^ | / PHP has a limit of 8192 bytes on fread ?? wow, that sucks... |
| 22:50.10 | SB1-Work | Kind of. You can still read files >8192 bytes with fread |
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| 22:50.42 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 22:50.54 | Jayce^ | chopped up like that example in plug? |
| 22:51.01 | SB1-Work | fread() reads up to length bytes from the file pointer referenced by handle. Reading stops when up to length bytes have been read, EOF (end of file) is reached, (for network streams) when a packet becomes available, or (after opening userspace stream) when 8192 bytes have been read whichever comes first. |
| 22:51.20 | SB1-Work | If you're not looping fread() until EOF, you're using it wrong |
| 22:52.00 | SB1-Work | It's the same kinda thing with fgets() iirc, only that also stops at a newline |
| 22:52.49 | Jayce^ | is there a "just read to EOF" or slurp in STDIN? |
| 22:53.45 | SB1-Work | Don't think so, though I'm uncluear what "slurp" is |
| 22:53.51 | SB1-Work | (Note that I don't read plug) |
| 22:54.03 | Jayce^ | slurp = just read in everything... |
| 22:54.21 | SB1-Work | Nope |
| 22:54.45 | SB1-Work | General rule of thumb for any file reading in PHP: always, always loop it until feof($handle) == TRUE |
| 22:54.51 | Jayce^ | plug was just having some code discussion, posted php examples first had trouble because the req said to read from STDIN, they didn't, the fix had that loop read, was wondering if they had something better |
| 22:55.03 | SB1-Work | Not really, no |
| 22:55.04 | SB1-Work | :/ |
| 22:55.27 | SB1-Work | PHP was never made to do that kind of thing ;) |
| 22:55.30 | SB1-Work | It shows ;) |
| 22:55.41 | Jayce^ | yup |
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| 23:02.13 | macnewbold | Jayce^: there are also ways in php to slurp the entire file at once, if youwant |
| 23:03.10 | Jayce^ | macnewbold, I was wondering, just looking at the examples they gave seemed, less than optimal |
| 23:03.30 | macnewbold | like perl, there are a lot of ways to do most things |
| 23:03.35 | jsmith | file_get_contents() comes to mind |
| 23:03.39 | rsimpkins | With 4000+ global functions in PHP, there is almost always 90 ways to do something. ;) |
| 23:03.46 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Amen! |
| 23:03.58 | macnewbold | Jayce^: the list is here: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.filesystem.php |
| 23:04.06 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Praise the namespace pollution and pass the potatoes |
| 23:04.11 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Hey man. Rich and Aaron said they had fun watchin' the foosball wit ya. |
| 23:04.34 | macnewbold | also, see www.php.net/file and www.php.net/readfile |
| 23:04.37 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Yeah, it was fun, even if the Cowboys lost. Aaron wasn't feeling too well... |
| 23:04.51 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Yeah, I heard he fell asleep. |
| 23:04.57 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Hey, is Aaron around? Tell him I'll ping him on IM |
| 23:05.02 | rsimpkins | k |
| 23:05.44 | rsimpkins | jsmith: done |
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| 23:27.22 | Keighvin | Jayce^: There are 2 ways to do it in PHP. |
| 23:27.34 | elg | the wrong way and the really wrong way? |
| 23:27.35 | Keighvin | file(): returns the entire contents as an array. |
| 23:27.45 | Keighvin | file_get_contents(): returns the entire contents as a string (scalar) |
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| 23:28.06 | Tene | Keighvin: does that work with stdin? |
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| 23:28.34 | Keighvin | Tene: Nope. |
| 23:29.05 | Tene | Keighvin: the issue being discussed is how to do it with stdin |
| 23:30.30 | Keighvin | You'll have to use a filter: |
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| 23:31.17 | Tene | what is a filter:? |
| 23:31.22 | Keighvin | i.e., readfile( "php://filter/resource=php://stdin" ); |
| 23:31.29 | Keighvin | Basically it's a read-through wrapper. |
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| 23:32.57 | Keighvin | Caveat: that's untested code right there, from memory on stuff I haven't used in a while. |
| 23:33.09 | Keighvin | It may also be possible to use php://input as an alias. |
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| 23:34.58 | calvarez | hullo |
| 23:36.24 | Keighvin | The best answer though is, unfortunately, to loop. |
| 23:37.00 | Keighvin | while( $tmp = fgets( STDIN ) ){ $content.= $tmp; }; /* then the rest of the code */ |
| 23:37.04 | Keighvin | Or thereabouts. |
| 23:37.25 | calvarez | ok guys, I need team brainstorming for a sec |
| 23:37.26 | Keighvin | Which is, honestly, all that happens under the hood for the all-at-once functions. |
| 23:38.06 | calvarez | a guy I know is talking to some UVSC faculty members about using FOSS, and I need a hand coming up with names of education-related free software |
| 23:38.17 | calvarez | all suggestions are greatly appreciated |
| 23:39.00 | rsimpkins | isn't there a kedubuntulivecdthingy out there? |
| 23:39.11 | rsimpkins | I'm sure you can find someone who has already done all the footwork. |
| 23:39.28 | calvarez | I'm talking about software for professors to use |
| 23:39.29 | rsimpkins | just download the iso, and give it to the faculty |
| 23:39.38 | rsimpkins | to use for what? |
| 23:39.48 | calvarez | for tasks such as creating exams, evaluating students, or other classroom use |
| 23:39.49 | rsimpkins | What kinda faculty are they? |
| 23:39.56 | rsimpkins | Humm - dunno. |
| 23:40.08 | calvarez | what about notetaking software? |
| 23:40.21 | calvarez | you know, something along the lines of Microsoft OneNote |
| 23:41.05 | rsimpkins | http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=notetaking§ion=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 |
| 23:41.34 | rsimpkins | http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=faculty§ion=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 |
| 23:41.49 | rsimpkins | http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=students§ion=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 |
| 23:42.02 | rsimpkins | I think that'll give you a fair start. |
| 23:42.28 | rsimpkins | Looks like you'll have over 100 to look at. |
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