| 00:00.05 | vontrapp | which i probably did, just the wrong one |
| 00:00.06 | levi_home | But, all things considered, $70 isn't huge for a car repair bill. |
| 00:00.07 | vontrapp | the slave was pretty cheap |
| 00:00.19 | vontrapp | the master was more |
| 00:00.22 | levi_home | Yeah, I just got a new slave because they're fairly cheap. |
| 00:00.31 | levi_home | I'd consider a rebuild kit if my master cylinder was bad. |
| 00:01.35 | vontrapp | if it weren't for that stinkin' decoy puddle |
| 00:05.00 | levi_home | Grr. I hope I don't have to write a C++ wrapper for my C wrapper for my OCaml library. |
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| 00:16.51 | levi_home | Gah, programming for Windows sucks. |
| 00:32.35 | tensai | Friends don't let friends code Win32 |
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| 00:38.50 | levi_home | Microsoft has a lot of development documentation, but it pretty uniformly sucks, as far as I can tell. |
| 00:46.39 | levi_home | Okay, instead of having C# pass references, I'm going to have it pass ints directly and have it call other functions to get the result. |
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| 00:58.31 | emcnabb | man, I've had a lot of spam getting through my filters over the last several days (on boxes running both SpamAssassin and dspam) |
| 01:04.13 | graphyx | I heard that a bunch of spam was being used to untrain spam filters instead of pilfering worthless goods. |
| 01:04.21 | graphyx | perhaps you have fallen prey... |
| 01:04.50 | emcnabb | interesting |
| 01:04.59 | emcnabb | where did you read that? |
| 01:05.24 | graphyx | i can't reacall. |
| 01:08.06 | graphyx | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/09/1523207&from=rss |
| 01:18.57 | graphyx | emcnabb: ^^^ |
| 01:23.45 | emcnabb | interesting |
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| 02:22.33 | maquis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-grdpKVqg |
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| 02:31.10 | graphyx | Another interesting thing. |
| 02:31.27 | graphyx | Using google code search to find html similarities between open source projects |
| 02:31.31 | graphyx | And commrecial projects. |
| 02:31.57 | graphyx | I have my suspicions that MoveIT dmz is using open source from the bitrix project. |
| 02:32.10 | graphyx | the html output is similar to what that code generates... |
| 02:37.53 | findlay | ~nuke iprovo |
| 02:37.56 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at iprovo ... B☢☢M! |
| 02:38.04 | findlay | ~bzfrag iprovo |
| 02:38.05 | ibot | ACTION kills iprovo with a shot from his BZTank |
| 02:38.30 | graphyx | iprovo go down on you? |
| 02:38.33 | findlay | yeah |
| 02:38.38 | graphyx | I think your problem is that you are using Veracity. |
| 02:38.45 | graphyx | should have chosen someone else. |
| 02:38.45 | findlay | probably |
| 02:38.50 | findlay | no choice |
| 02:38.55 | graphyx | you sure? |
| 02:39.01 | graphyx | I thought you could have chosen metronet. |
| 02:39.02 | findlay | the apartment complex is in deep with veracity |
| 02:39.08 | graphyx | ahh.. |
| 02:39.12 | graphyx | That explains it then. |
| 02:39.24 | graphyx | convince someone close by to use metronet and set up wireless. |
| 02:39.26 | graphyx | Then resell. |
| 02:39.28 | findlay | besides, veracity owns the infrastructure in the buildings |
| 02:42.31 | graphyx | whose pete? |
| 02:42.38 | maquis | graphyx: pete ashdown |
| 02:43.06 | graphyx | If he gets elected for a second term does that make him RePete? |
| 02:44.54 | Tene | heh |
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| 03:04.47 | goozbach | he's got to get elected once first |
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| 03:30.38 | maquis | oh goody... teaching primary tomorrow |
| 03:31.49 | mheath | hehe |
| 03:32.07 | mheath | A fun thing :) We're carving pumpkins. |
| 03:32.26 | mheath | And I went to a ball tonight :) |
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| 03:34.59 | mheath | maquis: you need to learn to be more evil to small innocent children. |
| 03:35.05 | mheath | How dare you be nice to them. |
| 03:35.25 | maquis | actually, it's more being nice to the primary president |
| 03:36.31 | mheath | ~lart the primary president |
| 03:36.36 | mheath | maquis: you are avenged. |
| 03:36.48 | maquis | lol |
| 03:37.12 | mheath | This date will never work out |
| 03:37.17 | mheath | hopefully it will be fun at least |
| 03:37.22 | mheath | the girl is like 3 years older than me |
| 03:37.41 | mheath | But she is very cute :) |
| 03:38.10 | mheath | I've got a meeting in the morning, followed by clothes shopping with my sister-in-law, followed by a blind date :) |
| 03:38.43 | levi_home | Not too blind, if you already know she's cute. |
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| 03:47.02 | Tene | The girl is blind. |
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| 03:57.12 | linuxalien | bbl |
| 05:14.54 | findlay | a GNU/date? |
| 05:16.10 | findlay | well, the batteries started going out on my calculator so I got new ones and now it won't turn on |
| 05:16.13 | findlay | ): |
| 05:16.26 | levi_home | Whoops. |
| 05:16.39 | findlay | what |
| 05:16.51 | levi_home | Your calculator. |
| 05:17.23 | findlay | yes, but what did I do wrong? Why did the gods decide to punish me like this? |
| 05:18.10 | findlay | heh, so I put the old ones in and it turns on? |
| 05:20.15 | vontrapp | sacrifice the calculator to the angered gods lest you find you don't turn on in the morning |
| 05:20.51 | vontrapp | where does an svn working copy store where it came from? |
| 05:21.16 | findlay | vontrapp: it's proprietary ): |
| 05:21.56 | findlay | heh, one old battery and two new ones and it turns on |
| 05:22.15 | vontrapp | so it stores it in who knows where land? |
| 05:22.29 | findlay | nope |
| 05:22.55 | findlay | looks like I need one of these old batteries for as long as I intend to use the calculator |
| 05:30.43 | findlay | if I were wealthier I would use this as occasion to finally buy that ideal multi function handheld device with a full qwerty keyboard so I can vim on it |
| 05:31.08 | findlay | vim+ginac+gnuplot |
| 05:33.44 | findlay | what more could you want? |
| 06:01.24 | Tene | a toaster |
| 06:02.52 | findlay | hmm, that's something I haven't considered |
| 06:06.40 | Tene | http://glench.com/projects/test/firefoxbug.html |
| 06:08.40 | nick125_lappy | I personally don't see that as a bug |
| 06:09.17 | findlay | whatever debian dev came up with that is witty and brilliant |
| 06:09.40 | findlay | clever too |
| 06:10.02 | findlay | ~ebuild nick125_lappy |
| 06:10.17 | findlay | ~ebuild nick125_lappy compile |
| 06:14.04 | nick125_lappy | someoen should write an x86 emulator in BF |
| 06:19.10 | levi_home | Woo! My chess program at least partially works with the graphical board now. |
| 06:19.15 | levi_home | And it thoroughly trounced me. |
| 06:26.01 | maquis | lol |
| 06:28.28 | findlay | heh |
| 06:28.42 | findlay | ~converge the grammar nazis on maquis |
| 06:44.03 | maquis | findlay: why? |
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| 06:47.17 | levi_home | I've still got work left to do, but at least my major obstacle is behind me. |
| 06:47.20 | levi_home | Time for sleep. |
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| 12:26.18 | mheath | Good morning. |
| 12:26.39 | nick125_lappy | morning mheath |
| 12:28.49 | mheath | nick125_lappy: you are awake at all the wrong times. |
| 12:29.26 | nick125_lappy | hah |
| 13:53.50 | nick125_lappy | anyone here know of a "basic" x86 emulator? |
| 14:15.50 | elg | written in basic? |
| 14:18.28 | nick125_lappy | no, I'm talking about a low-end x86 emulator, that doesn't include a bunch of stuff with it (something that you coudl easely grab the source and start picking at it and figure it out) |
| 14:25.24 | nick125_lappy | something I could read to start getting a more technical understanding of x86 |
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| 16:37.24 | findlay | ~lol |
| 16:37.32 | ibot | i heard lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
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| 17:38.42 | atoponce | so how long until we see ext4 mainstream? |
| 17:38.54 | atoponce | seeing as though it was just released 5 days ago... |
| 17:43.18 | findlay | why is TimRiker never around when I need to talk to him? |
| 17:50.04 | Tene | atoponce: in the mainstream kernel or widely used? |
| 17:50.57 | atoponce | widely used. eg: how long before debian, rhel, ubuntu, suse, etc put it in as the default? |
| 17:51.10 | atoponce | 18mo maybe? |
| 17:52.58 | atoponce | i just want exents, really. and i don't think i want to go reiser 4 to get it, following the latest news... |
| 17:53.47 | Kuyaedz | yeah, any idea what is going to happen to reiser now? |
| 17:55.04 | atoponce | novell moved from reiser to ext3, which means sled 10 will be using it. |
| 17:55.32 | atoponce | i hope the guy is not guilty. i'd hate to see the linux computing industry take a hit like that. |
| 17:56.51 | findlay | for Christmas I want an HP 50g and a Nokia 770 |
| 17:57.29 | findlay | hm, maybe I should have joined #santa first |
| 17:58.27 | Kuyaedz | what was he arrested for? I never read |
| 17:58.41 | atoponce | findlay: i hate to be the one to tell you this, but parents = santa; |
| 17:58.49 | findlay | nuh uh |
| 17:59.24 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: he's a suspect in his wife missing |
| 17:59.25 | findlay | well, you can get me either one of those things if you want |
| 17:59.31 | atoponce | findlay: ok. |
| 18:01.34 | atoponce | i had no idea hp put out *another* calc. now i have the urge to get that one too |
| 18:03.08 | atoponce | my wife jokes that i'll be a graduate of calculator science, not computer science... :( |
| 18:04.24 | Tene | Heh. |
| 18:04.29 | atoponce | 131x80 pixels? what's wrong here? still stuck in 1983? it should be able to support 4 times that easy... |
| 18:04.58 | findlay | yeah |
| 18:05.07 | findlay | hp49g+ was way buggy |
| 18:05.23 | atoponce | agreed. the latest rom isn't bad though |
| 18:05.41 | Tene | cordless drill! |
| 18:06.12 | findlay | but does it run linux? |
| 18:06.28 | atoponce | i don't get as many missed keystrokes, and my battery lasts |
| 18:07.24 | findlay | I got the 49g+ having confidence that HP wouln't release another calculator and then they turn around and put out the 50g? |
| 18:08.00 | atoponce | yeah. that's what i was thinking. is the keyboard like the traditional hp's, or like ti? |
| 18:08.02 | findlay | must be all that scandal at the top that forced hp to think that the wholesome calculator business wasn't for them |
| 18:08.29 | findlay | no TI keyboard, thankfully |
| 18:08.36 | atoponce | i like the tactile feedback of the 49g+, but it is a little noisy |
| 18:09.34 | findlay | truly though I'd love to let go of my 49g+ for the "ideal" device. I haven't really seen anything that works though |
| 18:09.41 | atoponce | ooooh. a new rom upgrade since my last. i'm upgrading... |
| 18:09.53 | Tene | Enumerate the characteristics of your ideal device, findlay. |
| 18:09.59 | findlay | the nokia 770 is attractive, but it doesn't have a qwerty keyboard |
| 18:10.05 | findlay | kn |
| 18:10.17 | findlay | um, I meant ok (: |
| 18:10.21 | Tene | Heh. |
| 18:10.24 | Tene | :) |
| 18:12.18 | findlay | completely open hardware well supported by GNU/linux (see OGP), 802.11g/n, usb2, full keyboard, high resolution color display |
| 18:13.06 | findlay | might as well settle for a small laptop |
| 18:15.14 | findlay | the Nokia wastes all that space with big, ugly buttons when it should have a full size display and keyboard. Forget this clunky mouse/cursor/stylus concept |
| 18:18.25 | atoponce | man, the upgrade takes it's time... |
| 18:20.04 | atoponce | w00t! done. now if i can find the bugs they fixed, and the features they added |
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| 21:04.38 | emcnabb | -lart elg |
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| 21:08.46 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 21:09.42 | emcnabb | elg: how much organ practice do you get in per week? |
| 21:09.52 | elg | approximately 0 |
| 21:10.05 | emcnabb | that's about how much piano time I've been getting |
| 21:10.20 | elg | i'm going to be the ward organist soon, and then I'll get approximately 4 hymns and 15 minutes of prelude per week |
| 21:10.33 | emcnabb | very cool |
| 21:10.41 | elg | I do occasionally play something at home, so some weeks it's up to an hour or so |
| 21:10.45 | elg | but I'm pretty lazy |
| 21:10.55 | emcnabb | my (new) goal is to get 20 minutes a day in |
| 21:11.04 | emcnabb | we'll see how long it lasts |
| 21:11.29 | elg | cool |
| 21:11.52 | elg | i am usually more motivated when I'm working on at least one piece that is fun to play _now_ |
| 21:12.08 | elg | and a harder piece that will be fun to play when I finally get it learned in 30 years |
| 21:12.58 | emcnabb | I've played piano for 15 years now, but I feel like I need to take lessons to get to the next level |
| 21:13.13 | emcnabb | that would help force me to practice too |
| 21:13.21 | emcnabb | but that costs money... |
| 21:15.33 | elg | lessons certainly can't hurt |
| 21:16.03 | elg | but you can make some progress. maybe not next level, but what about a lateral jump? |
| 21:16.14 | elg | like I've been poised to learn Jazz piano |
| 21:16.29 | elg | if I ever get it in gear I'll do it too |
| 21:16.38 | emcnabb | I played piano in high school Jazz band for a bit; didn't do well though |
| 21:16.43 | emcnabb | jumped right back to trumpet :-) |
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| 21:17.33 | elg | http://www.amazon.com/Jerry-Cokers-Jazz-Keyboard-Coker/dp/0769233236/sr=1-3/qid=1160947037/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/104-7739765-2658348?ie=UTF8&s=books |
| 21:17.42 | elg | that's the book I have, looks really good |
| 21:17.52 | elg | what I've done so far with it has been good |
| 21:25.46 | emcnabb | nice |
| 22:19.41 | maquis | hmm... cube-root 0f 64 |
| 22:20.30 | findlay | ~eval 64^(1/3) |
| 22:20.35 | maquis | i got it |
| 22:20.44 | findlay | ~get it |
| 22:20.59 | findlay | ibot doesn't get it |
| 22:22.36 | findlay | levi_home: do you think a functional language is/can be well suited for high performance computing? |
| 22:30.38 | levi_home | findlay: Of course it can. |
| 22:50.03 | emcnabb | the big earthquake in Hawaii happened about 10 miles from the house of a guy I do consulting for |
| 22:51.18 | findlay | emcnabb: your brother is in my ward |
| 22:51.27 | emcnabb | oh yeah? |
| 22:51.28 | emcnabb | which one? |
| 22:51.35 | findlay | Peter |
| 22:51.49 | emcnabb | man, I feel sorry for him ;-) |
| 22:52.04 | findlay | afraid I'll indoctrinate him in gentoo? |
| 22:52.15 | emcnabb | don't worry about that |
| 22:52.19 | findlay | heh |
| 22:52.31 | emcnabb | as an ex-gentoo addict I can tell you there is an escape |
| 22:52.47 | findlay | what's your 12 step plan? |
| 22:52.56 | emcnabb | download Fedora |
| 22:52.57 | emcnabb | install it |
| 22:52.59 | emcnabb | done |
| 22:53.06 | emcnabb | 12 / 6 plan |
| 22:53.11 | findlay | heh, fedora |
| 22:54.00 | emcnabb | I've actually spent less time getting it working on my laptop than Ubuntu on my wife's laptop |
| 22:54.00 | findlay | emcnabb: did they give you one of those red fedoras? |
| 22:54.07 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 22:54.12 | findlay | cool |
| 22:54.19 | emcnabb | it's actually pretty nice (solid, high quality) |
| 22:54.40 | findlay | would you buy one if you didn't work for RedHat? |
| 22:55.02 | emcnabb | I probably wouldn't, but that's because I'm a cheapskate |
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| 22:55.43 | emcnabb | haha |
| 23:32.07 | findlay | um, OK. ballet west has the stupidest site on the web, but what can you expect from a bunch of dancers |