| 00:09.57 | mheath | Gah, Vista still has that stupid download problem. |
| 00:25.15 | scott | I thought that a 30" or 24" monitor would be really sweet but I don't think they actually are |
| 00:25.22 | scott | they're TOO big |
| 00:25.28 | scott | I thought there was no such thing |
| 00:26.14 | scott | but when all you do is music, web, editor, email, etc, it doesn't actually work very well to have a screen that big |
| 00:26.41 | spr | Maybe then, but when I'm programming and testing code, that much screen reality helps |
| 00:26.54 | spr | At work we use two 19" side-by-side, and that's just wonderful |
| 00:26.57 | scott | I thought it would be cool to have everything on the screen at once, but the area is so big you have to move your head all over the place instead of pressing alt tab |
| 00:27.14 | spr | maybe you should sit farther back from the monitor? |
| 00:27.39 | scott | with a 30" you have to sit pretty far away |
| 00:27.55 | spr | I guess I'd have to try. I'll have to dream for the time being |
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| 01:31.34 | mheath | be back in a bit :) |
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| 01:58.02 | maquis | hmmm computer making odd noise |
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| 02:18.06 | billfur | maquis, ah yes, the fan is attempting to devour your soul |
| 02:18.51 | findlay | just had a fun drive to Heber and back |
| 02:19.09 | findlay | passing everybody in the rain |
| 02:19.18 | findlay | got to love 4 wheel drive |
| 02:22.29 | maquis | billfur: i don't know if that's the type of sound a fan makes |
| 02:22.48 | findlay | ~sound maquis |
| 02:23.19 | billfur | macnewbold, its making a noise, ergo its a fan. |
| 02:23.26 | billfur | unless its a clicking, in which case its the harddrive |
| 02:23.36 | billfur | if it sounds like an explosion, its probably the motherboard |
| 02:25.48 | billfur | but you should only hear the explosion sound once |
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| 02:35.58 | dilvie | I like the size of my 20" monitor. |
| 02:36.01 | dilvie | It's about right. |
| 02:36.20 | dilvie | plenty big to have two readable documents open next to each other |
| 02:36.32 | dilvie | and not so big that I find myself moving my head around |
| 02:36.59 | dilvie | for audio production, I would actually prefer MORE real-estate |
| 02:37.05 | billfur | I have to move my head around =( |
| 02:37.10 | dilvie | maybe 2x20" |
| 02:37.18 | billfur | 2x21 |
| 02:37.26 | billfur | a little bigger for about the same price |
| 02:37.54 | dilvie | I don't have room for that setup on my current desk anyway. |
| 02:38.08 | billfur | well, you could get one of those swordfish like monitor mounts |
| 02:38.16 | dilvie | I'm not sure how I would position my studio monitors and still have good visibility and good accoustics. |
| 02:39.06 | billfur | speakers above the monitors? |
| 02:39.18 | billfur | (like on a shelf) |
| 02:47.53 | dilvie | Billfur: When speakers are mounted above or below ear level, the image is more prone to comb filtering due to head movements. |
| 02:48.31 | dilvie | It's not as big a problem with midfield monitors, but those are much larger, much more expensive, and not an option for my small room. |
| 02:49.15 | dilvie | Currently, my speakers are just about the right distance, and the imaging is pretty clear. |
| 02:50.27 | billfur | dilvie, oh, my hearing is not that great =p |
| 02:51.14 | billfur | hmm, or maybe I've never noticed (decides to set up a test) |
| 02:54.10 | dilvie | billfur: you should be able to notice if you shift your head slightly up or down and listen to the frequency response |
| 02:54.38 | dilvie | you might hear something similar to a phasing effect, where some frequencies get softer while others get louder |
| 02:54.59 | billfur | whats the best genere to try this on? |
| 03:10.29 | billfur | hm |
| 03:10.42 | billfur | maybe |
| 03:11.13 | billfur | I think I'm getting a bit of noise from my system though. |
| 03:12.03 | levi_home | findlay: Good rain tires help more than 4wd in the rain. |
| 03:12.26 | billfur | er, wait, there I hear it |
| 03:12.42 | levi_home | In fact, for any weather condition x, tires optimized for weather condition x make a bigger difference than 4wd. |
| 03:16.30 | levi_home | Also, good evening, everyone. :) |
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| 03:18.52 | levi_home | Hey, elg. |
| 03:22.21 | elg | hi |
| 03:22.26 | levi_home | How goes the academics? |
| 03:23.18 | elg | pretty good. I realized today looking over the qualifying exam study topics for the algorithms exam, that we covered not even half of the topics in the algorithms class |
| 03:23.22 | elg | that's fun |
| 03:23.44 | elg | i saw some of them in 252, a long time ago. some studying to do before January. i have a study partner though, so that's good |
| 03:24.15 | levi_home | So, you're going to have to do some independant study of algorithms to take the qual? |
| 03:24.30 | levi_home | Apparently yes. |
| 03:24.56 | levi_home | What sort of things does your class not cover? |
| 03:27.10 | elg | did is the key word. I think (and thought at the time) that he was going way too slow and not covering what he ought |
| 03:27.17 | elg | it was his first time teaching it |
| 03:27.28 | levi_home | Ahh, that's unfortunate. |
| 03:27.37 | elg | anyway, various classes of algorithms. |
| 03:28.05 | elg | we did cover the core of complexity and so on |
| 03:28.12 | elg | the rest is just details |
| 03:28.18 | levi_home | On a related topic, I saw a '10 minute' explanation of Judy trees today. Yow. |
| 03:28.43 | elg | basically the topic list says "chapters 2 through 25" |
| 03:28.52 | elg | there's a few chapters left out |
| 03:29.14 | levi_home | Oh. Well, at least you have a specific text to work from. |
| 03:30.02 | elg | which is about half the text. :) |
| 03:30.12 | levi_home | Yow. |
| 03:30.21 | elg | yeah. although quals are more about creative thinking, applied knowledge |
| 03:30.45 | levi_home | I'm enjoying my AI text, Russel & Norvig's AIMA. |
| 03:31.05 | elg | is that the red one? or I think the latest edition is green |
| 03:31.26 | elg | I know norvig is a coauthor |
| 03:33.07 | levi_home | Yup, it's green. |
| 03:33.33 | levi_home | I have Norvig's other AI book, too, which is also a Common Lisp book. |
| 03:40.05 | levi_home | Anyway, as far as textbooks go, it's excellent. Clear prose, just the right level of detail, good explanations of topics, and just a bit of humor. :) |
| 03:42.05 | levi_home | elg: You should look at this 'How to Solve It' book on Amazon; you might find it useful. |
| 03:42.34 | levi_home | Some of the pages in the 'inside the book' excerpt deal with teaching. |
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| 03:55.34 | mheath[laptop] | I wish GAIM integrated with IRC better |
| 03:55.47 | mheath[laptop] | I really like the idea of having all my accounts integrated into one client.... |
| 03:55.52 | Tene | how can something integrate with a protocol? |
| 03:56.34 | mheath[laptop] | You can't idle in a channel with GAIM... |
| 03:56.38 | mheath[laptop] | Can't get GAIM to autojoin channels |
| 03:58.46 | elg | yeah, I love the norvig ai book |
| 03:59.21 | elg | gaim is an IM protocol. IRC is not IM. so I don't use gaim for irc |
| 03:59.50 | levi_home | I like the example in the First-Order Logic chapter regarding Colonel West and the missiles he sold to the nation of Nono. |
| 04:00.33 | mheath[laptop] | elg: If I could just get it to conveniently hide chat rooms rather than exit when I close the window, and to handle things like nickserv identification, it would be great. |
| 04:01.32 | elg | mheath[laptop]: the thing with using programs that weren't designed for purposes which they almost fit, is that there's always one more "if it just did this" around every corner |
| 04:02.32 | mheath[laptop] | elg: ? IRC _IS_ an instant messaging protocol. |
| 04:02.59 | mheath[laptop] | The only difference is that IRC tends to be more room-centric whereas other instant messenging services are more private message centric |
| 04:03.03 | mheath[laptop] | be right back. |
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| 04:06.48 | Tene | mheath: it *can* do nickserv identification |
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| 04:08.19 | mheath[laptop] | OK, nevermind. Screw GAIM. Hmmm. |
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| 04:08.32 | tene_ | omg gaim! |
| 04:09.03 | mheath[laptop] | What would be really cool would be if chat rooms could be displayed on the buddy list along with buddies |
| 04:09.13 | Tene | they can |
| 04:09.18 | mheath[laptop] | How? |
| 04:09.37 | Tene | well, I have the dialog up right now by clicking 'conversation->add' while showing a chat |
| 04:10.03 | Tene | put your nickserv password in the 'password' box in the account thing |
| 04:10.19 | mheath[laptop] | Tene: That doesn't cause it to autojoin a channel, though, does it? |
| 04:10.23 | mheath[laptop] | Adding it to the buddy list. |
| 04:10.51 | tene_ | right-click on it in the buddy list and there's an 'auto join' checkbox |
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| 04:11.43 | mheath[laptop] | Hmm. one sec. |
| 04:11.49 | tene_ | omg autojoined! |
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| 04:11.57 | Sargun | anyone wanna translate: |
| 04:11.57 | Sargun | Aw, Sargun...I was really afraid of that. ): Not because I don't like you, or I don't think you're "worth anything" or whatever nonsense you said, but...I mean, I seriously haven't been attracted to anyone since seventh grade so it's not about you. I think you're a great guy. I think you're the greatest guy I've met in a really long time. I think you're smart and sweet and attractive and eloquent. But...I mean, I looked really hard because I |
| 04:11.59 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.04 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], perfect timing |
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| 04:12.28 | Sargun | And...I would really, honestly like it if we still be good friends. I like talking to you. You're one of my favorite people to talk to. |
| 04:12.42 | Tene | Sargun: what is there to translate? |
| 04:12.51 | Tene | it's really direct and straightforward. |
| 04:13.01 | Sargun | is that a nice way to say |
| 04:13.03 | mheath[laptop] | Tene: Bah, thats no good, I want to be able to hide the channel into the systray icon like I can in X-Chat |
| 04:13.06 | Sargun | "I don't like you" |
| 04:13.17 | Tene | Sargun: no, it means what it says |
| 04:13.39 | Sargun | *relaxes* |
| 04:13.41 | Tene | mheath[laptop]: systray is stupid anyway. |
| 04:13.50 | Tene | Also, I think there might be a gaim plugin to do that. |
| 04:13.56 | mheath[laptop] | tene: not when I'm stuck on a Windows system. |
| 04:14.13 | mheath[laptop] | Tene: Theres no decent workspace apps for Windows, screen realestate is limited |
| 04:14.34 | Tene | If it's so painful, why are you using it? |
| 04:14.45 | tensai | redbeard1: you awake? |
| 04:15.14 | mheath[laptop] | Tene: Family used machine now. One of the big uses is to scan in pictures, and the scanner doesn't work with SANE. |
| 04:15.24 | mheath[laptop] | Tene: Also my gaming machine |
| 04:15.38 | mheath[laptop] | Tene: And I do _some_ programming in Visual Studio |
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| 04:17.03 | mheath[laptop] | Sargun: the sooner you stop stressing about everything a girl says or does, and the sooner the stop trying to form a lifelong relationship by the age of 15, the sooner you'll be able to freakin RELAX, enjoy your time around women, and be more likely to actually meet 'the one'. |
| 04:17.21 | Sargun | mheath, thanks. |
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| 04:17.56 | mheath[laptop] | be right back. |
| 04:17.59 | Sargun | cya |
| 04:18.32 | tensai | ~convert 83000 square miles to acres |
| 04:18.58 | tensai | ibot: unknown unit? what good are you? |
| 04:19.09 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 04:19.23 | tensai | -lart ibot |
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| 04:19.52 | tensai | 83,000 square miles is 53 million acres for those of you following along at home |
| 04:19.52 | mheath^2 | I figured this nick would sufficiently drive people insane trying to tab complete it when mheath is here too :) |
| 04:20.03 | mheath^2 | that and tenebrackets wants to be annoying. |
| 04:20.19 | mheath^2 | tensai, what did I miss? |
| 04:20.22 | tenebrackets | No, I just can't connect to my office anymore to log into my screen session |
| 04:20.53 | tenebrackets | it's on a trashy connection. I need to move it out to xmission sometime. |
| 04:25.51 | mheath^2 | hmm. Is there any place that will rent a tuxedo with only one week notice? |
| 04:25.52 | mheath^2 | =\ |
| 04:37.14 | Sargun | wow, I think my luck has gone from complete crap |
| 04:37.25 | Sargun | mheath^2, do you have a standard size? |
| 04:38.07 | mheath^2 | Sargun, -.- No, and I doubt you could tell me what places in Utah would carry a tuxedo a week in advance. |
| 04:38.14 | mheath^2 | San Fransico wouldn't be any problem |
| 04:38.34 | mheath^2 | Places around here don't have a huge inventory; you have to preorder and get your tux shipped from a central facility |
| 04:38.57 | Sargun | one of my friends got his overnighted to him |
| 04:39.08 | Sargun | he sent his measurements + standard sizes |
| 04:39.15 | Sargun | and the next day he got them |
| 04:42.01 | mheath^2 | I'm still involved with my old youth group, the USNSCC.... |
| 04:42.27 | mheath^2 | they're going to the "navy ball" this year, which is a big thing the CPOC at the local reserve center puts together annually to honor the birthday of the navy |
| 04:42.42 | mheath^2 | I didn't realize it, but the uniforms the military personnel going are Dinner Dress Blues, which are quite formal |
| 04:42.59 | mheath^2 | and the nicest thing I have is trousers and a nice button up long sleeve shirt with tie. |
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| 04:50.51 | mheath | Heh, my first day of work today...my brother works there...I was talking to him... |
| 04:51.04 | mheath | I said something along the lines of "Yeah, this is really easy compared to what I was doing before" |
| 04:51.04 | Tene | Can anyone recomment a bluetooth adapter for use under linux? |
| 04:51.16 | mheath | And one of the other hosts glared at me like I was being hideously disrespectful to her job |
| 04:52.10 | maquis | ok. i don't get it... i installed network-manager, and even network-manager-gnome, but i still can't find the executable |
| 04:52.34 | levi_home | In Ubuntu? |
| 04:52.42 | maquis | levi_home: yes |
| 04:52.47 | maquis | am i doing something wrong here? |
| 04:52.59 | mheath | maquis: its something non-obvious, iirc |
| 04:53.07 | mheath | it should be added to the gnome session startup automatically though |
| 04:53.12 | mheath | its like nmapplet or something |
| 04:53.16 | maquis | hmmm |
| 04:53.17 | maquis | i'll try that |
| 04:53.18 | levi_home | Try dpkg -L <pkgname> |
| 04:53.34 | mheath | maquis: but, like I said, it should start automatically...in dapper, at least... |
| 04:53.38 | maquis | i don't use gnome, so it adding to the gnome startup doesn't help |
| 04:54.09 | maquis | i don't actually have gnome installed. just the pieces that this forced to have installed |
| 04:54.50 | mheath | maquis: thats an odd way of doing things |
| 04:54.59 | mheath | You don't like gnome, yet you like things like network-manager O.o |
| 04:55.50 | maquis | mheath: i want to give it a try because i saw a screenshot that had some features i wanted to check out |
| 04:56.19 | mheath | maquis: like what? I've had some bad experiences with NM |
| 04:57.08 | maquis | mheath: like the checkbox for "just crack the key and use the network" |
| 04:57.31 | mheath | O.o |
| 04:57.49 | mheath | I guess I never saw that because I never used it with anything other than my home network |
| 04:58.24 | mheath | maquis: All I'm going to do is warn you: I don't know if it was the wireless drivers or what, but network manager kept putting my wireless hardware into a weird state that made it unusable by any app unless I rebooted |
| 04:58.25 | perry753 | HELLO |
| 04:58.33 | mheath | ELLO |
| 04:58.42 | perry753 | HOW R U |
| 04:58.43 | levi_home | Hi, perry753 |
| 04:59.07 | levi_home | Mind hitting your capslock key? |
| 04:59.10 | maquis | please? |
| 04:59.38 | maquis | we use inside voices here |
| 04:59.55 | mheath | perry753: see that key on the far left of your keyboard? |
| 05:00.00 | mheath | The one that says "Caps Lock" |
| 05:00.04 | mheath | Press it. |
| 05:00.06 | mheath | Just once will do. |
| 05:00.22 | maquis | or any odd number |
| 05:00.25 | levi_home | I'm doing fine, though. Thanks for asking. |
| 05:00.57 | perry753 | OK |
| 05:01.41 | mheath | Ugh. My teacher used to discuss a theory in a philosophy class that things we've found from ancient civilizations weren't realy the important religious or historical artifacts we found, but toys or entertainment things |
| 05:02.10 | mheath | Kinda like if, a million years from now, someone found a Mickey Mouse stuffed animal and figured that this civilization must have worshipped the thing |
| 05:02.38 | mheath | I have nightmares of people finding stupidity like "HOW R U" and thinking thats what we were like, or how we wrote =P |
| 05:02.40 | maquis | perry753: do you use AOL? |
| 05:02.50 | perry753 | maquis: YES |
| 05:02.54 | perry753 | WHY |
| 05:03.10 | mheath | I've never heard perry753 talk before. Is he usually this obnoxious, or he is he joking? |
| 05:03.15 | maquis | perry753: lucky guess |
| 05:03.28 | maquis | mheath: i don't think i've seen perry753 in here before |
| 05:03.30 | perry753 | JK |
| 05:03.32 | perry753 | I DONT USE AOL |
| 05:03.33 | perry753 | LOL! |
| 05:03.54 | maquis | perry753: i would highly recommend not shouting anymore |
| 05:04.03 | nick125_lappy | feel free to kickban perry753 btw, he deserves it |
| 05:04.15 | perry753 | ???? |
| 05:04.27 | mheath | perry753: I don't know if you're trying to be funny, but you're not. Please talk normally. |
| 05:04.28 | maquis | perry753: you're ignoring our requests to stop shouting |
| 05:04.35 | *** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ |
| 05:04.38 | *** part/#utah perry753 (n=airwave@unaffiliated/perry753) |
| 05:04.47 | Tene | Well, nevermind, then. |
| 05:04.50 | mheath | What the heck? |
| 05:04.57 | mheath | That person just confused me O.o |
| 05:05.04 | maquis | nick125_lappy: there was no need to duck after that comment |
| 05:05.09 | maquis | i was already thinking about it... |
| 05:05.09 | tensai | [Whois] perry753 is n=airwave@unaffiliated/perry753 (Perry) |
| 05:05.12 | Tene | checking his information, he doesn't look like someone very clueless. |
| 05:05.21 | tensai | Tene: just what I was noticing |
| 05:05.27 | maquis | although i was actually planning a kick, not a ban |
| 05:05.51 | mheath | Just a troll, it seems. |
| 05:07.13 | maquis | apparently he's experienced enough to know what +o means |
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| 05:07.37 | mheath | perry753: Please stop being a troll. |
| 05:08.07 | dilvie | trolls are crunchy and good with milk |
| 05:08.17 | perry753 | mheath: I'm not a troll. |
| 05:08.26 | mheath | perry753: then please stop behaving like one. |
| 05:08.34 | mheath | Or, like dilvie says, I will have to eat you. With milk. |
| 05:08.38 | maquis | perry753: fooled me |
| 05:08.38 | perry753 | mheath: ok |
| 05:09.01 | perry753 | my eyes are hurting so the monitor looks all bright and stuff. |
| 05:10.25 | mheath | perry753: I have nice gray text on a black background. |
| 05:10.27 | mheath | My eyes are quite fine. |
| 05:11.43 | perry753 | I changed my Windows theme to the shiny silver/green one and I'd rather have it blue/green. |
| 05:11.50 | perry753 | now my eyes are watery. |
| 05:12.01 | maquis | hmmm |
| 05:18.34 | mheath | .... |
| 05:18.38 | mheath | Yes. Troll. |
| 05:23.31 | nick125_lappy | He's a troll |
| 05:24.23 | levi_home | http://www.numag.neu.edu/0301/programming.html |
| 05:27.31 | Tene | Hmm. |
| 05:27.44 | Tene | I've had a new debit card for four months now... |
| 05:28.05 | Tene | It says "NOT VALID UNLESS SIGNED" on the back, and I still haven't signed it, but nobody has noticed. |
| 05:28.14 | Tene | What are the implications of not signing it? |
| 05:28.24 | tensai | it might not be honored |
| 05:28.44 | tensai | I used to write "ASK FOR ID" on that line. I'd say maybe 10% of the time they would. |
| 05:33.08 | mheath | Tene: no one cares, but they might not honor it. Everyone does though. |
| 05:33.26 | mheath | Heh, I had a bad habit of putting it outside of my wallet, just loose in my pocket, where the card got worn a lot |
| 05:33.31 | mheath | That signing strip thing rubbed off |
| 05:33.39 | mheath | And undernet it says VOID VOID VOID VOID VOID |
| 05:33.42 | mheath | *underneath |
| 05:33.45 | mheath | Poeple still took it. |
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| 05:50.22 | dilvie | why Duke Nukem Forever will never be released: http://www.3drealms.com/news/2006/08/a_retelling_of_prey.html |
| 05:51.13 | nick125_lappy | I guess the "Forever" part means how long it will take |
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| 06:32.02 | levi_home | It strikes me as very odd that the Linspire programmers are all functional programmers. |
| 06:35.55 | Sargun | lol |
| 06:36.48 | Sargun | mheath, how much does your bank charge to replace the card? |
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| 08:37.17 | Tene | dilvie: isn't that video about something completely unrelated? |
| 08:38.16 | dilvie | Tene: No, it's how the company has been spending its time. |
| 08:38.51 | Tene | ahh |
| 08:39.12 | Tene | Hence, "spending its time on conpletely unrelated things" |
| 08:39.14 | Tene | Okay. |
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| 16:58.58 | tensai | ~lart maquis |
| 16:59.22 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 16:59.45 | elg | anyone know a way (linux or osx) to liberate m4p files? |
| 17:00.03 | elg | let me rephrase. a semi-automatic (or scriptable) way to do it without losing tag info |
| 17:00.09 | elg | I know how to exploit the analog hole |
| 17:00.10 | tensai | jhymn? |
| 17:00.29 | tensai | http://hymn-project.org/ |
| 17:00.32 | elg | last update was 2004 and the web page says it doesn't work with itunes 7 |
| 17:00.36 | elg | er, itunes 65 |
| 17:00.37 | elg | 565 |
| 17:00.38 | elg | 6 |
| 17:00.39 | elg | shseesh |
| 17:00.41 | elg | and I have 7 |
| 17:05.05 | JoshH | anyone know the url for the logs for this channel? |
| 17:06.27 | mheath^2 | ~logs |
| 17:06.29 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 17:07.25 | JoshH | thanks |
| 17:16.06 | elg | -lart sourceforge |
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| 18:26.58 | goozbach | purl, say hi |
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| 19:00.48 | mheath^2 | you all need to talk me out of playing world of warcraft. =P |
| 19:00.51 | mheath^2 | Waste of money... |
| 19:02.58 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, you're no help! You're supposed to say "It's a bad game and a waste of money, don't play it" |
| 19:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a bad game and a waste of money, don't play it |
| 19:04.24 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, what realm are you on? |
| 19:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Doomhammer |
| 19:04.42 | mheath^2 | Maybe I will join you. |
| 19:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:04.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Bad idea if you're leveling |
| 19:05.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It's probably the best geared and furthest progressed server out there |
| 19:05.26 | mheath^2 | Bah. |
| 19:05.36 | mheath^2 | I want to finish playing Warcraft 3 too |
| 19:05.45 | mheath^2 | It has an interesting story line, and I never finished it. |
| 19:06.06 | Sargun | Either of you play SL? |
| 19:06.17 | ScytheBlade1 | SL? |
| 19:06.29 | mheath^2 | Sargun, Your a teenager. The Secondlife teen grid is a piece of crap. |
| 19:07.03 | mheath^2 | The world is either exactly how it started, or filled with random crap. |
| 19:07.05 | Sargun | well, you don't say your a teenager |
| 19:07.34 | mheath^2 | Sargun, oh, thats right, you use your daddy's credit card. |
| 19:07.41 | Sargun | Isn't SL free? |
| 19:07.57 | mheath^2 | .....Not if you want do do anything usefulf |
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| 19:08.20 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, how much is WoW per month? |
| 19:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | $15 |
| 19:08.42 | mheath^2 | hmm. |
| 19:08.43 | ScytheBlade1 | slightly more in Utah due to a retarded tax that only exists in three states |
| 19:09.27 | mheath^2 | I dunno. WoW takes obsessive playing to amount to anything. |
| 19:09.32 | mheath^2 | Its not a casual play game |
| 19:09.45 | mheath^2 | and I don't have the time or the inclination to play it obsessively |
| 19:10.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Not compared to EQ, from what I've heard. |
| 19:10.26 | ScytheBlade1 | And that said, I *am* a casual player. I "play" WoW twice a week really |
| 19:11.19 | Sargun | ScytheBlade1, sales tax? |
| 19:11.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Sargun, aka xbmodder, no, a different tax :P |
| 19:12.01 | Sargun | I hate people who say "Oh, its sales tax" on a service |
| 19:12.03 | Sargun | or cold food |
| 19:12.05 | mheath^2 | I found it more interesting to explore the world and find out about story lines than to sit and level by doing mundane quest after quest |
| 19:12.12 | Sargun | and just pocket it themselves |
| 19:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | The world is nothing short of amazing |
| 19:13.00 | mheath^2 | Well, let me reprhase |
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| 19:13.29 | mheath^2 | quests are OK, but not the stupid ones that require you to go and kill X number of beasts, or walk a long long ways, grab something, and walk way back |
| 19:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | What level are you, and faction? |
| 19:14.22 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, last time I played (which was ages ago; I haven't had a subscription in months, and thats why you were supposed to talk me out of getting one) I was around 18 |
| 19:14.31 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 19:14.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that's nothing |
| 19:14.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus you're too low to really have enough talents for the game to be enjoyable |
| 19:15.29 | mheath^2 | I think I will get a new subscription. |
| 19:15.33 | mheath^2 | Start off with a fresh new character. |
| 19:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh, and blow another $50? |
| 19:16.19 | mheath^2 | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:17.00 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, I have a job and I'm not in college yet. This is the last few months I'll be able to put money towards something so worthless with a good concious =P |
| 19:17.17 | ScytheBlade1 | You could just use your existing account though... |
| 19:17.35 | mheath^2 | Yeah, the same ACCOUNT |
| 19:17.38 | mheath^2 | Just a fresh character |
| 19:17.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. |
| 19:17.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, your time and effort. What class was the 18? |
| 19:18.09 | mheath^2 | Uh, Elven Druid. |
| 19:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Try a caster |
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| 19:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | See if you like it better |
| 19:18.34 | mheath^2 | Well, druids were casters, somewhat |
| 19:18.37 | perry753 | hello |
| 19:18.39 | mheath^2 | I kinda liked the animal transformations. |
| 19:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | No, they're healbots and backup tanks :) |
| 19:19.28 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah, they're incredibly flexible |
| 19:20.14 | mheath^2 | hmm. Maybe I will stick with that account. |
| 19:20.26 | mheath^2 | It was on a No-PvP server, though, and I kinda like PvP |
| 19:20.43 | mheath^2 | RolePlaying PVP servers are my favorite. |
| 19:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | . . . |
| 19:21.09 | mheath^2 | :) |
| 19:21.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I might ruthlessly insult and harass RPPvP players |
| 19:21.43 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, Like I said, I like my game to have more storyline and such |
| 19:21.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not storyline, that's retard :) |
| 19:22.08 | mheath^2 | I don't like the repetive keep-killing-crap-until-you-level stuff |
| 19:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | And that said, the *real* storyline happens when you hit 60 |
| 19:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Before that, the only real storyline would be the Deadmines quest chain |
| 19:23.35 | mheath^2 | You can't transfer characters between servers, can you? |
| 19:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | You can |
| 19:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | For $25 a char |
| 19:23.36 | mheath^2 | bah |
| 19:23.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Once per 6 months |
| 19:23.36 | mheath^2 | That's expensive |
| 19:23.55 | mheath^2 | maybe I'll play a bit on the non-PVP server, then switch it over after I get a paycheck |
| 19:24.50 | mheath^2 | If I remember correctly, though, I left that character out in the middle of nowhere......Somewhere to the Northwest of Ironforge. Maybe that was anohter character, though... |
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| 19:55.56 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, what kind of server do you recommend then? Plain PVP? |
| 19:56.06 | ScytheBlade1 | RP is kinda retarded |
| 19:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Just due to it's nature |
| 19:56.25 | mheath^2 | How so? |
| 19:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not about the game |
| 19:56.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It's about the grammar :P |
| 19:56.58 | mheath^2 | eh? |
| 19:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | One sec as I find this |
| 19:58.16 | ScytheBlade1 | here's a good example |
| 19:58.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13691370&sid=1 |
| 19:59.55 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, thats just a story. |
| 19:59.57 | mheath^2 | O.o |
| 20:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it's a small novel |
| 20:00.16 | ScytheBlade1 | By a single RP person |
| 20:00.20 | ScytheBlade1 | They're *all* like that |
| 20:00.48 | mheath^2 | ScytheBlade1, So? I'm not, and the nature of those people makes the storyline more interesting. |
| 20:03.07 | mheath^2 | Oh, come on |
| 20:03.39 | mheath^2 | there was a smudge on the CD-ROM, so the install fails |
| 20:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | "Interesting" is a good word for it |
| 20:03.47 | mheath^2 | but does it give you a retry option? No, just exits |
| 20:04.23 | mheath^2 | spent almost an hour copying and decompressing massive amounts of data off of the CD-ROM |
| 20:04.47 | mheath^2 | *CD-ROMS |
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| 20:16.33 | dna3e8 | hay |
| 20:20.30 | dna3e8 | Any one set up a linux server to be a network attached storage |
| 20:21.06 | dna3e8 | What distro do you recommend |
| 20:21.20 | findlay | levi_home: why do you think so? |
| 20:23.09 | mheath | hahah |
| 20:23.45 | mheath | My brothers name is Brian. And he as as his answering machine recording a sound clip from Monty Python's "Life of OBrian" |
| 20:24.03 | mheath | "We worship you, obrian! We love you, obrian! Thank the lord our father..." |
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| 20:24.31 | mheath | ~lart elg |
| 20:24.35 | mheath | brac is too slow |
| 20:24.46 | mheath | brac: who is them? |
| 20:24.46 | brac | who knows? |
| 20:24.57 | mheath | brac: who are you? |
| 20:24.57 | brac | dunno |
| 20:25.11 | mheath | brac: are you mentally competent? |
| 20:25.12 | brac | who knows? |
| 20:30.24 | Sargun | no |
| 20:31.00 | mheath | Sargun: he can apparently pass the turing test, assuming your conversing with an invalid also. |
| 20:31.29 | dna3e8 | Nothing on Network attached storage? |
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| 21:26.31 | levi_home | findlay: Why do I think what? |
| 21:26.42 | findlay | about the rain tires |
| 21:27.39 | levi_home | Oh. Because I've had 4wd, fwd and rwd cars and several varieties of tires. |
| 21:28.27 | levi_home | And rain tires definitely make a bigger difference than 4wd. |
| 21:28.50 | levi_home | And real snow tires make a bigger difference than 4wd in the snow. |
| 21:30.25 | levi_home | Weight of the vehicle also makes a pretty significant difference. |
| 21:31.49 | levi_home | Having a poor alignment makes a bigger difference still. |
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| 21:35.55 | findlay | levi_home: how did you get all this experience with different kinds of power trains? |
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| 21:38.49 | tensai | anybody know how to use an elk call? |
| 21:39.12 | levi_home | findlay: Owning lots of cars. |
| 21:39.19 | levi_home | findlay: I have 4 right now. |
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| 21:53.39 | mheath^2_ | I can't make heads or tails over my military pay information =\ |
| 21:54.01 | mheath^2_ | I'm looking at an account statement, and it just doesn't make any sense to me |
| 21:54.25 | levi_home | Speaking of which, anyone want to buy a Toyota Solara? It's a 2-door Camry, essentially. |
| 21:55.24 | perry753 | so... are you guys from utah? |
| 21:55.39 | mheath^2_ | sounds like I'll be making a trip out to Hill AFB's finance department |
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| 23:13.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap Asterisk is amazingly useful |
| 23:36.52 | macnewbold | oh yeah |