| 00:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | levi, you've heard of thedailywtf.com, right? |
| 00:04.41 | levi | ScytheBlade1: Yup. |
| 00:04.53 | ScytheBlade1 | levi, that's where those are from |
| 00:08.56 | goozbach | grrrr |
| 00:08.58 | levi | I figured so. |
| 00:09.09 | goozbach | ~seen sjansen |
| 00:09.17 | ibot | sjansen <n=sjansen@class1-nat.gurulabs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 15d 8h 39m 37s ago, saying: 'http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/09/14/BAGPJL5DHV1.DTL'. |
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| 00:41.33 | goozbach | WAHOO! |
| 00:41.38 | goozbach | got a laptop again |
| 00:41.40 | goozbach | yay |
| 00:45.26 | graphyx | cool |
| 00:59.39 | linuxalien | Coolio! |
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| 01:14.12 | elg | levi: base conversions? |
| 01:14.36 | elg | oh, you got it I guess. |
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| 01:17.08 | goozbach | s/laptop/working laptop/ |
| 01:17.31 | elg | -lart goozbach |
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| 01:25.38 | graphyx | ok who knows mysql really well? |
| 01:26.20 | beandog | define really well |
| 01:31.34 | goozbach | YAY! Dr WHO! |
| 01:35.35 | beandog | who? |
| 01:35.47 | cbrown | Dr. YAY |
| 01:36.56 | beandog | heh |
| 01:39.51 | cbrown | Why would anyone want to watch a show about a guy who has no permanent address, lives in a phonebooth, doesn't have a job, can't stay out of trouble, and seems to have some mental health issues to boot? |
| 01:40.58 | beandog | I'm on TV? |
| 01:41.13 | cbrown | LOL |
| 01:41.56 | beandog | :) |
| 01:42.00 | beandog | what show is that, cbrown |
| 01:42.08 | cbrown | Dr. Who |
| 01:42.35 | cbrown | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who |
| 01:44.44 | beandog | oh |
| 01:44.45 | beandog | duh. |
| 01:44.51 | beandog | he has mental health issues? |
| 01:45.46 | cbrown | He certaintly seems distracted all the time... Perhaps it's voices in his head or something. |
| 01:45.48 | goozbach | somewhat |
| 01:49.48 | elg | he's awesome |
| 01:49.56 | elg | goozbach: old or new? |
| 02:10.53 | mheath | findlay, printer working OK for you? |
| 02:11.01 | mheath | Wow, I love the new sound theme in Ubuntu dapper :) |
| 02:11.20 | mheath | erm, Ubuntu Edgy* |
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| 02:13.18 | Sargun | ~lart ebay |
| 02:13.24 | Sargun | HEy |
| 02:13.26 | Sargun | emcnabb, |
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| 03:01.46 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 03:02.11 | levi_home | mheath: I thought you reinstalled Breezy. |
| 03:02.50 | mheath | levi_home, dapper, you mean. |
| 03:03.02 | mheath | And no, I'm running Edgy now |
| 03:03.31 | Sargun | hi |
| 03:04.27 | levi_home | Er, yeah, whatever the previous one was. |
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| 03:32.34 | mheath | Wow. Its impossible to really tell what someone on IRC is like in person. |
| 03:32.55 | levi_home | Who did you just meet? |
| 03:33.20 | mheath | levi_home, earlier this evening I met findlay. |
| 03:33.29 | levi_home | Ahh. I met him at the Alan Kay lecture. |
| 03:33.43 | mheath | Was that any good/ |
| 03:33.44 | mheath | ? |
| 03:33.49 | levi_home | It was excellent. |
| 03:33.57 | mheath | I wanted to go, but there was something going on at the time... |
| 03:34.02 | mheath | Applebees was working me to death |
| 03:34.12 | levi_home | That's too bad. :/ |
| 03:34.32 | levi_home | I took the day off work to go, but I have a pretty flexible employer. |
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| 03:36.54 | mheath | They were horrible. I couldn't even get a day off of work when I was sick without having to call around to a dozen people trying to get somone to work for me now |
| 03:37.13 | levi_home | Are you going to work while you go to school? |
| 03:37.40 | mheath | levi_home, Yes, I'll need to...but that will probably be down in SLC, as I'm hopefully going to the UoU |
| 03:37.45 | mheath | I'd like to just get an on-campus job |
| 03:38.33 | levi_home | Those are convenient. Hopefully you can find something better than janitorial duty. A lot of people I knew at BYU did that. |
| 03:42.24 | mheath | As long as it pays enough to cover the school-related costs my grants/loans/scholarships won't, and leave me with some spending money. |
| 03:43.07 | Sargun | jbellis, hey! |
| 03:44.03 | Sargun | what be up? |
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| 03:45.01 | mheath | My dad is really fighting my choice to go to UoU though =\ |
| 03:45.26 | mheath | it's more expensive (particularly because I'll be living on campus), and he doesn't trust me when I say I'd rather take out additional loans than draw on him for cash. |
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| 03:53.21 | mheath | Mmm. Homemade hot chocolate with natural sweetened whipped cream |
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| 03:54.01 | mheath | ~lart elg |
| 03:54.48 | levi_home | It's amazing how much faster this computer got when I added a gig of RAM and a fast hard drive. |
| 03:55.19 | mheath | I want to do a RAM upgrade on my laptop |
| 03:55.24 | mheath | levi_home, what school did you go to? |
| 03:55.51 | levi_home | I went to BYU for a few years, dropped out, and now I'm going to UVSC. |
| 03:56.16 | mheath | Hmm. |
| 03:56.37 | mheath | What programming languages, how indepth, etc.. |
| 03:56.49 | levi_home | A friend of mine at work is taking CS courses there. |
| 03:56.57 | levi_home | From what I hear, it's a pretty decent program. |
| 03:57.13 | levi_home | I suspect the primary languages are Java and C++. |
| 03:57.14 | mheath | Yeah. Everyone recommended I go there rather than Weber State |
| 03:57.37 | mheath | Weber State is horrible. Visual Basic and C#. Very much in Microsoft's pocket. |
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| 03:58.14 | levi_home | I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the UVSC program. It's very practically-oriented, but they have some serious classes. |
| 03:58.31 | levi_home | Of course, I was not expecting much from it. |
| 04:00.27 | mheath | levi_home, did you ever live on-campus? |
| 04:01.01 | mheath | (at BYU, I see UVSC doesn't have any) |
| 04:02.12 | levi_home | Yup, I did for a couple of years. |
| 04:02.24 | levi_home | It was fun, especially as a freshman. |
| 04:02.41 | levi_home | But it was also distracting. |
| 04:03.03 | mheath | Distracting? Just the social aspects / having to deal with a room mate? |
| 04:03.16 | levi_home | Yes, the social aspects were distracting. |
| 04:03.41 | levi_home | Not just a roommate, but the whole hall of people. |
| 04:03.54 | mheath | I think I'm definately going to live in housing for at least a semester. |
| 04:03.56 | levi_home | We all got to know each other very well, and often everyone's doors were open. |
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| 04:04.03 | mheath | Just an experience I really want to have. |
| 04:04.32 | mheath[laptop] | How were your areas arranged? 2-to-a-room-plus-bathroom? |
| 04:04.50 | levi_home | mheath: Two to a room, and a communal bathroom for the whole hall. |
| 04:06.34 | mheath[laptop] | UoU's housing looks like its mostly two to a room, with one bathroom for every two rooms |
| 04:11.50 | mheath[laptop] | levi_home: it seems like me and you are the only ones regularlly awake this time at night. |
| 04:12.23 | levi_home | I'm usually on my computer doing homework, but today I'm working on getting this new hard drive set up. |
| 04:12.36 | mheath[laptop] | sounds fun |
| 04:12.45 | mheath[laptop] | heh. "You may east as many meals per day as you wish." |
| 04:13.00 | mheath[laptop] | What happens if I try to use my meal plan's full weekly allotment of 19 meals in one day? :P |
| 04:15.16 | levi_home | Then you're hungry the rest of the week, I guess. |
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| 04:20.31 | levi_home | http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=854 |
| 04:21.40 | levi_home | Man, I love Dinosaur Comics. |
| 04:22.03 | elg | lol. Tellme more about DISAGREE? |
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| 04:23.05 | levi_home | So funny! :) |
| 04:26.27 | elg | the previous one is good too |
| 04:28.53 | levi_home | "Dude, we have to start it!!" |
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| 04:31.54 | elg | -lart wps |
| 04:32.06 | levi_home | ~lart slow dsl |
| 04:34.14 | *** topic/#utah by mheath[laptop] -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. Read http://plug.org/node/28 . Support your local chapter of Beards over Babies. OALUG Distro discussion on the 30th oalug.com |
| 04:38.43 | levi_home | "It's -- it's a symphony of meat and cheese?" |
| 04:41.15 | levi_home | This is really evil: http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2006/09/programming_without_control_sm_1.php |
| 04:41.54 | mheath[laptop] | "Also I couldn't marry a professional housecleaner because she would soon suspect that I'm obsessed with trying to undermine all that she's striving for with every discarded sock and unwashed dish." |
| 04:43.03 | mheath[laptop] | "I also believe all conflicts are solvable through communication, peace is attainable, and that love is a gift that cannot be commodified!" |
| 04:43.11 | mheath[laptop] | "What happens if these turn out not to be true?" |
| 04:43.25 | mheath[laptop] | "Then I mourn the death of childhood and my final loss of innocence, Duh!" |
| 04:43.38 | levi_home | CurlyML: doing for XML what Java did for C++: bringing its users halfway to lisp! http://curlyml.sourceforge.net/intro.php |
| 04:45.24 | mheath[laptop] | hhaha, thats awesome. |
| 04:45.30 | mheath[laptop] | I approve. |
| 04:47.19 | levi_home | Just switch the {}s to ()s and move the tag inside... et voila! S-expressions! |
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| 04:49.00 | levi_home | Heh. Way cool... open up emacs, and do M-x table-insert |
| 04:53.32 | levi_home | It can automatically generate html or latex source for your table, too. |
| 04:56.27 | maquis | cool |
| 04:57.47 | levi_home | There's so much weird but cool stuff hidden in emacs. |
| 04:57.57 | levi_home | Oh, and hi, maquis! |
| 04:58.07 | maquis | levi_home: hi |
| 04:58.10 | maquis | sup |
| 04:58.12 | maquis | ? |
| 04:58.34 | levi_home | Just playing around with my newly-upgraded desktop. |
| 04:58.39 | maquis | fun |
| 04:59.04 | levi_home | http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=lisp&l1=&q2=c%2B%2B&l2=&q3=java&l3=&q4=c%23&l4=&q5=python&l5=&q6=ruby&l6=&q7=smalltalk&l7=&q8=cobol&l8=&tm=1 |
| 04:59.22 | levi_home | I need to get me one of those $85k Lisp jobs. |
| 05:01.30 | maquis | levi_home: ummm... adding a city and state doesn't change the results of the salary search |
| 05:01.42 | maquis | oh... you have to uncheck the box |
| 05:01.53 | maquis | lisp isn't very popular in seattle |
| 05:02.34 | maquis | c++ seems to be the most popular in seattle |
| 05:03.30 | maquis | north dakota? |
| 05:03.52 | linuxalien | goodnight |
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| 05:04.09 | levi_home | maquis: Finally! |
| 05:04.20 | levi_home | maquis: But only by $6k |
| 05:04.52 | maquis | hmmm |
| 05:05.09 | maquis | idaho too |
| 05:05.21 | maquis | but arkansas is better than utah |
| 05:05.39 | maquis | cali beats washington |
| 05:05.40 | levi_home | And Wyoming. |
| 05:05.50 | levi_home | Wyoming pays better than Utah. |
| 05:05.55 | maquis | :) |
| 05:06.06 | levi_home | But not Montana. |
| 05:06.27 | maquis | montana isn't that nice |
| 05:06.47 | maquis | haha... alaska and hawaii pay software people better |
| 05:06.49 | levi_home | Maryland beats California |
| 05:07.10 | levi_home | Virginia is even better. |
| 05:07.17 | maquis | ouch... |
| 05:07.28 | levi_home | New York, even better than that. |
| 05:07.44 | maquis | average salaries: Iraq: 79,000. USA: 47,000. |
| 05:08.24 | levi_home | Mississippi beats Utah. |
| 05:09.00 | maquis | bloggers do better, on average, than journalists and reporters |
| 05:10.06 | maquis | temporarily, speaking arabic is more important than any other languages |
| 05:10.44 | levi_home | Yow, by far. |
| 05:10.48 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:11.18 | maquis | arabic-speaking people can get good money from the NSA and such |
| 05:11.28 | maquis | chinese is good for business, though |
| 05:11.33 | maquis | (as is japanese) |
| 05:11.49 | maquis | http://www.indeed.com/salary?cat=accountant+salary&q1=accountant&l1=&q2=accountent&l2=&q3=accontant&l3=&q4=accountnt&l4=&tm=1 |
| 05:11.53 | maquis | i think that one's my favorite |
| 05:12.23 | Sargun | ~california |
| 05:12.25 | ibot | well, california is Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation |
| 05:12.29 | Sargun | -_- |
| 05:13.34 | Sargun | ibot, no california is split into two sections with completely different culture, norcal obviously being better, the other, socal is crime ridden with rappers and crapp musical rappers. |
| 05:13.35 | ibot | Sargun: okay |
| 05:13.45 | Sargun | ~california |
| 05:13.46 | ibot | rumour has it, california is split into two sections with completely different culture, norcal obviously being better, the other, socal is crime ridden with rappers and crapp musical rappers. |
| 05:14.16 | Sargun | ~socal |
| 05:14.28 | Sargun | Irish people have the awesomest accent ever! :-P |
| 05:19.21 | Sargun | Would someone explain me Doctor Who? |
| 05:20.11 | mheath[laptop] | explain you? |
| 05:20.17 | mheath[laptop] | I'm gonna learn you good, Sargun |
| 05:21.54 | mheath[laptop] | ibot: no, california is Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation |
| 05:21.55 | ibot | okay, mheath[laptop] |
| 05:23.05 | mheath[laptop] | Little girls from sweden dream of silver screen quotations... |
| 05:23.15 | mheath[laptop] | It's californication...... |
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| 05:25.53 | mheath[laptop] | hey, linuxalien. Unless your a reconnecting ghost |
| 05:27.26 | linuxalien | hi mheath[laptop] - I just got on to say hi to #gentoo-osx |
| 05:27.38 | linuxalien | I am doing an emerge -sync |
| 05:27.39 | mheath[laptop] | ah ok |
| 05:27.42 | linuxalien | Then, when that's done, I'm going to bed finally. hehe |
| 05:27.51 | mheath[laptop] | linuxalien: you're coming tomorrow, right? |
| 05:28.20 | mheath[laptop] | To oalug, that is |
| 05:28.22 | linuxalien | I'll try. My brother invited me to breakfast. I hope he's done by 10 |
| 05:28.42 | mheath[laptop] | the meeting isn't until 12 actually. |
| 05:28.50 | linuxalien | I'll definitely try to make it. I'll be sure to take my car so I have a way of escaping the breakfast. :P |
| 05:28.57 | maquis | so, today, i was reading some papers that my manager printed out for me... |
| 05:29.07 | linuxalien | Oh ok...12? Oh yeah, I should make it but will have to leave around 1 or so cuz of work |
| 05:29.11 | maquis | and when i got to the bottom of a page, i tried to use my scroll wheel to get to the next page |
| 05:29.47 | mheath[laptop] | maquis: haha, happens to the best of us :P |
| 05:29.59 | linuxalien | :) |
| 05:30.20 | maquis | mheath[laptop]: yeah... i realized that i'd been sitting in front of the computer a bit too long at that point :) |
| 05:30.43 | Sargun | Why isn't the NOC picking up? |
| 05:30.53 | maquis | Sargun: not good |
| 05:31.04 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: which noc? |
| 05:31.07 | linuxalien | haha Yeah, that happens maquis |
| 05:31.20 | Sargun | of amazon's PC/PT D/C |
| 05:31.33 | maquis | Sargun: huh? |
| 05:31.41 | mheath[laptop] | hmm serious question here: Do you think I could get an exception to UoU's no-swords-on-campus policy for my Iaido? |
| 05:31.41 | mheath[laptop] | I |
| 05:31.44 | maquis | Sargun: why are you trying to get hold of amazon's NOC? |
| 05:31.57 | Sargun | because an amazon IP is DDoSing me. |
| 05:32.00 | mheath[laptop] | I'm sure the policy is just to stop people who think a sword looks cool and buy it on impulse... |
| 05:32.06 | mheath[laptop] | for me, it actually involves a sport... |
| 05:32.47 | mheath[laptop] | Sargun: what kind of DDoS |
| 05:32.48 | mheath[laptop] | ? |
| 05:33.00 | Sargun | an extremely weird kind. |
| 05:34.11 | linuxalien | Being DDoS'd would be annoying |
| 05:35.16 | mheath[laptop] | OK, folks, time for me to really head to sleep. My batteries running low, anyway! |
| 05:35.17 | Sargun | You can load http://xbmodder.us/heh.log into wireshark |
| 05:35.21 | Sargun | its reall really weird. |
| 05:35.22 | nick125_lappy | it looks like they are sending us a ton of XML traffic over HTTP...I don't know how |
| 05:35.24 | levi_home | mheath[laptop]: G'night. |
| 05:35.34 | mheath[laptop] | Night, levi. |
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| 07:51.45 | bonez39 | maquis, good evening |
| 07:51.51 | bonez39 | is anyone up here? |
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| 07:52.02 | bonez39 | howdy wps |
| 07:52.12 | wps | hey |
| 07:53.10 | bonez39 | no rest for the weary, eh? |
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| 09:19.51 | bonez39 | all sleeping? |
| 09:21.05 | billfur | maybe |
| 09:37.10 | bonez39 | billfur, you don't happen to run any SATA drives, under linux, do you? |
| 09:38.18 | billfur | yes |
| 09:38.20 | billfur | I run no ide |
| 09:38.44 | bonez39 | really....are you pretty savvy with linux and grub? |
| 09:39.35 | billfur | eh.... |
| 09:39.36 | bonez39 | I have an older machine, my primary linux box....it used to have two ide drives...which ran windows 98se at one point, but later linux....debian 3.0.....I then added an SATA drive..using an SATA controller card.....and the drive worked JUST FINE..... |
| 09:39.49 | billfur | I tend to plug random numbers into grub until it works =p |
| 09:40.45 | bonez39 | well, I run root (hd0,0) and I get Error 18: selected partition is a size greater than is supported by the BIOS...thus it disallows me from seeing the drive.......and working on it... |
| 09:41.16 | billfur | eek no idea |
| 09:41.19 | billfur | never seen that |
| 09:41.21 | bonez39 | ok...... |
| 09:42.05 | billfur | what if you use a different root drive? |
| 09:42.20 | bonez39 | I discovered that my SATA controller card is NOT supposed to support linux, yet it has run just fine for over a year.....I believe because one of the old IDE drives. had the translation code in the mbr...to allow the system to see the SATA drive.... |
| 09:42.41 | billfur | you could put the boot partition and kernel on an ide drive and boot it off that |
| 09:43.23 | bonez39 | ah, I am installing debian 3.1 to an old IDE drive that I believe is workable..it's old but if I can just get it to boot up, installed on the ide..and then run grub..and such..I think this might work... |
| 09:45.48 | bonez39 | except,. during the installation from floppy, which jumps over to network installation, every drive I try in that machine....while "Starting up the partitioner" seems to halt at 38% ... Scanning Disks |
| 09:47.29 | billfur | how about if you yank the sata card during installation? |
| 09:47.54 | bonez39 | yank it out? |
| 09:48.04 | bonez39 | how then would my system talk to the SATA drive? |
| 09:48.18 | billfur | hm, install to an ide harddrive and later copy the install to a sata drive? |
| 09:48.24 | billfur | if the sata card is indeed the problem |
| 09:48.29 | bonez39 | are you saying to pull the data cable to the SATA |
| 09:50.27 | billfur | well, I don't know why the debian is having issues |
| 09:50.29 | billfur | is it the CD? |
| 09:50.40 | billfur | I thought you meant it was the sata card |
| 09:51.27 | bonez39 | well, not sure if it's the SATA card or not..I am thinking I should find a SATA card that specifically WORKS under linux.... |
| 09:52.14 | billfur | wouldn't hurt =p |
| 09:52.15 | bonez39 | when I boot with a grub disk...it simply can not see the SATA drive...or rather can't read directly.....can't mount the driive....... |
| 09:54.12 | bonez39 | do you know what ACPI is ? |
| 09:55.38 | billfur | at 4 am? no |
| 09:56.24 | bonez39 | ok...... |
| 09:56.26 | bonez39 | sorry |
| 09:56.44 | billfur | let me look it up |
| 09:57.02 | billfur | ah right, its power management |
| 09:57.16 | billfur | I couldn't remember if I was thinking of the APIC or the ACPI =) |
| 09:58.12 | bonez39 | hmmm ok |
| 09:58.21 | billfur | powermanagement is somtimes buggy |
| 09:58.25 | billfur | often |
| 09:58.27 | billfur | always =p |
| 09:59.30 | bonez39 | hmmmmmm it's like my BIOS is suddenly all screwed up |
| 09:59.53 | bonez39 | not recognizing my drive......evening though according to the BIOS people..the BIOS only deals with IDE drives... |
| 10:03.44 | bonez39 | could a BIOS just go bad one day and stopp responding appropriately, and stop seeing or recognizing a specific drive type? |
| 10:04.15 | billfur | I've had it happen to me |
| 10:04.27 | billfur | it kindof took half my computer with it... =p |
| 10:04.51 | bonez39 | but the BIOS recognizes everything else..every other type drive.. |
| 10:05.03 | bonez39 | maybe I should take this drive and controller home and try and run it on my machine at hoem |
| 10:05.06 | bonez39 | at home |
| 10:06.23 | billfur | that was a few months after a lightning strike though.. |
| 10:06.39 | bonez39 | well, we have had those here..but not recently.... |
| 10:07.03 | billfur | no, like a direct hit =p |
| 10:09.29 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.33 | bonez39 | I am heading home |
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| 13:33.32 | atoponce | ogdenites: meeting at 12 noon today at wsu ogden campus |
| 13:34.06 | atoponce | free schwag and cds |
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| 13:56.13 | redbeard2 | ha ha! |
| 13:57.19 | elg | -lart redbeard2 |
| 14:00.49 | elg | anyone know christopher douglas? |
| 14:14.06 | mheath | Good morning! |
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| 15:22.46 | elg | sigh. what is move play and is there any hope in linux? |
| 15:22.49 | elg | http://www.byu.tv/ |
| 15:23.16 | redbeard2 | byu.tv? |
| 15:23.21 | redbeard2 | that scares me |
| 15:24.04 | redbeard2 | ah, and it works so well in linux, as you noted |
| 15:24.42 | beandog | atoponce: schwag? |
| 15:25.02 | beandog | oy, what are the chances NWN is going to work correctly today. -_- |
| 15:25.51 | atoponce | schwag baby! yeah!! |
| 15:25.58 | atoponce | from xmission |
| 15:26.04 | elg | oh well, I'll just do audio |
| 15:26.42 | *** topic/#utah by elg -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. Read http://plug.org/node/28 . Support your local chapter of Beards over Babies. OALUG Distro discussion on the 30th oalug.com . General Conference: pick a language at http://tinyurl.com/kpj69 and do mplayer -playlist <url> |
| 15:29.15 | atoponce | elg: thx for the topic change! :-)ยป |
| 15:31.12 | beandog | oh good grief |
| 15:31.20 | beandog | I just updated and then I see theres another point release. |
| 15:32.44 | beandog | and its even in portage |
| 15:32.45 | beandog | man, Im blind. |
| 15:38.19 | elg | np |
| 15:38.24 | mheath | billfur, around? |
| 15:56.11 | maquis | morning all... |
| 15:56.14 | maquis | conference time :) |
| 16:01.39 | beandog | huh thats cool |
| 16:01.39 | beandog | kbyu is broadcasting in english + spanish |
| 16:01.39 | beandog | nice. |
| 16:08.50 | elg | both at the same time? |
| 16:09.04 | elg | -lart maquis |
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| 16:32.10 | elg | that's a short workday |
| 16:33.52 | redbeard2 | must work for the government |
| 16:34.12 | mheath | you have no idea how true that is >.> |
| 16:34.37 | mheath | Waiting in line at the DMV does not begin to compare with the amount of government laziness and stupidity I have had to put up with -.- |
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| 17:01.52 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 17:12.09 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
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| 18:10.30 | bonez39 | any here in Salt Lake? Sandy Area..... |
| 18:11.03 | levi_home | Yes. |
| 18:12.14 | elg | glad we got that cleared up |
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| 18:27.33 | bonez39 | what utility or tool is available for linux....that compares with or likely exceeds Ontrack's Data Advisor? |
| 18:27.56 | bonez39 | what can I run that will look at my hard drives..including my SATA drives...to find out how healthy or sick they might be? |
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| 18:29.29 | mheath[laptop] | Are only people in Sandy able to answer that question? :P |
| 18:31.00 | bonez39 | mheath, no one yet.....I can't figure out if it's my hard drive..or what |
| 18:31.17 | bonez39 | it just ran fine, without any suggestion/hint/hiccup, that it would go south... |
| 18:31.32 | bonez39 | I think it's ok...I think its mbr is just hosed and I need to figure out how to restore that |
| 18:34.34 | mheath[laptop] | well, if you're in Ogden, you should be _here_ right now |
| 18:34.55 | bonez39 | mheath, well, I live in Sandy..... |
| 18:35.27 | mheath[laptop] | Yes, I feel happy for you. |
| 18:36.05 | levi_home | As I said, I also live in Sandy. But I don't know anything about Ontrack's Data Advisor or what Linux utilities might compare to it. |
| 18:39.44 | bonez39 | levi_home, ok.... |
| 18:39.50 | bonez39 | I didn't see that you live here too.... |
| 18:40.18 | bonez39 | I have fdisk /dev/sda open..and it shows 4 partitions...I don't remember now what the partition scheme was, but this looks different... |
| 18:41.04 | bonez39 | levi_home, and it doesn't appear to be set up with the sizing and such like I had it..I think the partition table and/or mbr are screwed up........how can I peer into the drive and rectify this? |
| 18:41.15 | levi_home | This looks interesting... http://www.dcs.qmul.ac.uk/cs4fn/ |
| 18:41.29 | levi_home | bonez39: Well, you can attempt to mount the partitions. |
| 18:41.33 | bonez39 | Expert command (m for help): v |
| 18:41.33 | bonez39 | Total allocated sectors -606348327 greater than the maximum 156301488 |
| 18:41.41 | bonez39 | I get that..when in fdisk |
| 18:42.06 | levi_home | bonez39: I'm afraid I don't have much in the way of data recovery skills. |
| 18:42.40 | bonez39 | ok...... |
| 18:44.13 | bonez39 | root@1[knoppix]# fdisk /dev/sda |
| 18:44.13 | bonez39 | The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 11718. |
| 18:44.13 | bonez39 | There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, |
| 18:44.13 | bonez39 | and could in certain setups cause problems with: |
| 18:44.18 | bonez39 | I get this when in fdisk |
| 18:48.24 | bonez39 | levi_home, got a sore back, neck? any kids or wife with same? I'll pay direct or trade services..if I could get someone to revive my drive...... |
| 18:49.34 | bonez39 | levi_if you know ANYONE here locally who would be interested in helping me..and having me help them..here's my number: 566.5428 |
| 18:49.43 | bonez39 | I have to run, but am seeking assistance... |
| 18:49.56 | levi_home | Sorry I can't be of much help. |
| 18:50.08 | bonez39 | levi_home, no worry.... |
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| 20:00.10 | goozbach_gaim | anybody got your ears on? |
| 20:00.25 | goozbach_gaim | if so, what are the settings for the plug jabber server? |
| 20:00.38 | maquis | -lart goozbach_gaim |
| 20:01.06 | maquis | "Use TLS if available, port 5222, server talk.google.com |
| 20:01.25 | goozbach_gaim | talk.google.com? |
| 20:01.26 | maquis | i thikn the rest of it is pretty simple |
| 20:01.30 | maquis | yup |
| 20:01.36 | maquis | that's what i've got at least |
| 20:01.41 | goozbach_gaim | hmm |
| 20:01.41 | maquis | and it works |
| 20:01.56 | goozbach_gaim | with your plug jabber account? |
| 20:02.07 | goozbach_gaim | ~pop maquis |
| 20:02.15 | ibot | ibot offers maquis a thin mint. |
| 20:02.21 | goozbach_gaim | heh |
| 20:03.35 | goozbach_gaim | hmm I should install an ssh client on this box |
| 20:06.25 | redbeard2 | goozbach_gaim: jabber,plug.org |
| 20:06.44 | redbeard2 | port 5222 |
| 20:07.13 | redbeard2 | i guess that should be jabber.plug.org (no comma) |
| 20:07.39 | redbeard2 | in gaim, just choose a username and password, and click the register button |
| 20:08.29 | redbeard2 | goozbach_gaim, is that enough info for you? |
| 20:09.24 | elg | goozbach_gaim: did you get it to work? I'm here now |
| 20:09.36 | elg | if I can't help you nobody (but maybe ibot) can |
| 20:10.12 | goozbach_gaim | I just tried my username and it didn't seem to be registered |
| 20:10.25 | goozbach_gaim | but when I sign in under linux it works just fine |
| 20:10.40 | redbeard2 | you have registered already? |
| 20:10.41 | Sargun | emcnabb, did you ever fix your problem |
| 20:13.21 | goozbach_gaim | yup |
| 20:13.26 | goozbach_gaim | anyone have my username? |
| 20:13.39 | goozbach_gaim | maybe I'm using the wrong one? |
| 20:13.53 | redbeard2 | no clue |
| 20:14.17 | goozbach_gaim | I hate windows FTR |
| 20:14.23 | redbeard2 | FTR? |
| 20:17.27 | goozbach_gaim | for the record |
| 20:17.59 | redbeard2 | gotcha |
| 20:18.09 | goozbach_gaim | bah conference started, /me disconnects. I'll just reboot and get my settings |
| 20:19.15 | elg | goozbach: goozbach@jabber.plug.org |
| 20:19.50 | goozbach | elg: thanks |
| 20:22.48 | goozbach | thanks folks |
| 20:23.21 | redbeard2 | np |
| 20:23.32 | goozbach | redbeard2: there's a second one? |
| 20:23.43 | goozbach | are you like a time lord or something? |
| 20:23.47 | redbeard2 | goozbach: a second what? |
| 20:24.01 | goozbach | redbeard1 -> redbeard2 |
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| 20:24.32 | redbeard2 | goozbach: redbeard1 => work, redbeard2 => home |
| 20:25.21 | goozbach | hmm gaim.exe crashes when trying to connect to msn |
| 20:25.32 | redbeard2 | you don't need msn anyway |
| 20:25.52 | goozbach | if I want to chat with my mother or grandmother i do |
| 20:26.01 | redbeard2 | you could get them on jabber |
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| 20:26.32 | mheath | linuxalien, were you one of the people at the meeting? |
| 20:26.52 | linuxalien | Nopers. Sorry, I took a short nap and didn't wake up in time. |
| 20:27.13 | Sargun | hey mheath |
| 20:27.40 | mheath | I think I might go rent a movie and get some lunch |
| 20:27.49 | mheath | Not sure what movie to rent, though |
| 20:27.56 | redbeard2 | bubbahotep |
| 20:28.01 | redbeard2 | i hear it's a good one |
| 20:31.42 | elg | get monster in law |
| 20:31.59 | linuxalien | yes, it's funny |
| 20:32.23 | redbeard2 | what's wrong with bubbahotep? |
| 20:32.32 | redbeard2 | other than the obvious, of course |
| 20:32.54 | elg | dunno |
| 20:32.56 | elg | never heard of it |
| 20:33.03 | goozbach | "How to annoy people." |
| 20:33.11 | redbeard2 | ooh, that's a good one |
| 20:33.38 | goozbach | " |
| 20:33.51 | goozbach | "Life of Brian" |
| 20:34.14 | mheath | Seen them both, many times |
| 20:34.24 | redbeard2 | so, anyone familiar with the nntp protocol? |
| 20:34.34 | mheath | They closed my favorite video rental store :( It was right next to subway, where I want to get my lunch, too. |
| 20:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | redbeard2, http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0977.txt |
| 20:37.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 20:37.20 | redbeard2 | ScytheBlade1: thanks man, but i already have that very link up |
| 20:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 20:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's about all I've got :) |
| 20:37.55 | redbeard2 | i used to use Net::NNTP, but it's so slow |
| 20:38.17 | redbeard2 | so i've been hacking apart nzbperl and adapting it instead, since it's so much faster |
| 20:39.54 | redbeard2 | but nzbperl uses the socket directly, and i'm a little rough |
| 20:41.49 | redbeard2 | bbiab |
| 20:42.44 | goozbach | ohh socket programming |
| 20:42.46 | goozbach | fun |
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| 21:14.52 | redbeard2 | goozbach: yeah, love the socket programming |
| 21:16.38 | goozbach | use bash socket programming to build an IMAP implemtation then we'll talk :) |
| 21:17.17 | redbeard2 | now you're just showing off |
| 21:20.52 | goozbach | yeah, so? |
| 21:21.14 | goozbach | actually I was just "sargun"'ing |
| 21:21.25 | goozbach | ~sargun redbeard2 |
| 21:21.27 | ibot | Want a VPS, redbeard2 ?! How about it? I think you need a VPS, redbeard2 ! Come on, lets get you a VPS, redbeard2 ! Oh, by the way, do you know any 13 year old girls who live in San Fransisco?? |
| 21:21.27 | Sargun | lol |
| 21:21.50 | goozbach | whaddayasay? hmmm.... |
| 21:25.05 | redbeard2 | ~lart goozbach |
| 21:25.12 | redbeard2 | take that! |
| 21:27.21 | billfur | Sargun lol |
| 21:28.40 | goozbach | ohh hot grits |
| 21:28.54 | goozbach | can't wait for them to petrifiy |
| 21:29.04 | goozbach | while thinking about natile portman |
| 21:29.41 | redbeard2 | dude |
| 21:29.42 | redbeard2 | TMI |
| 21:30.22 | goozbach | thankyouverymuch |
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| 21:53.51 | linuxalien | lol |
| 21:57.39 | maquis | goozbach: oh... sorry... i thought you wanted the google-talk account |
| 21:57.48 | maquis | did you get the jabber one? |
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| 22:30.57 | Sargun | Does SMB/CIFS encrypt data? |
| 22:32.08 | elg | probably not? |
| 22:49.01 | billfur | um, no. |
| 22:49.09 | billfur | its smb/cifs |
| 22:49.36 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: you could do it over a VPN tunnel |
| 22:50.05 | Sargun | hmm... |
| 22:50.31 | Sargun | hm |
| 22:50.56 | Sargun | Are there any tools out there to reassemble CIFs files/passords? |
| 22:51.42 | billfur | Sargun, rainbow tables. |
| 22:51.50 | billfur | for sufficiently hard passwords. |
| 22:51.52 | Sargun | thats a cracking method. |
| 22:52.05 | billfur | well... you could use it to reassemble passwords =p |
| 22:52.24 | Sargun | Well, I think someone reassembled some "private" data |
| 22:52.40 | billfur | Why? |
| 22:52.49 | billfur | well I mean the data isn't encrypted |
| 22:52.53 | billfur | thats not hard at all |
| 22:52.55 | billfur | I can do that by hand. |
| 22:53.02 | billfur | for sufficiently small packets =p |
| 22:56.39 | billfur | if your using cifs for anything important your insane |
| 22:56.59 | nick125_lappy | agreed |
| 22:57.10 | nick125_lappy | if your using cifs for anything not touching a windows box, you are insane |
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| 23:08.18 | levi_home | Just finished washing/waxing my Miata, which it was long overdue for. |
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| 23:12.08 | rsimpkins | goozbach: activated plug.org acct. |
| 23:12.30 | rsimpkins | and one for Jacob A. - if he is in here. |