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| 00:09.45 | graphyx | findlay What are you doing? |
| 00:10.02 | graphyx | often times it is more important to filter icmp by type rather than completely. |
| 00:10.08 | graphyx | er... more appropriate. |
| 00:20.46 | findlay | graphyx: I wanted to allow icmp via iptables, at least ping, so I allowed all traffic |
| 00:21.00 | findlay | mainly because I was too lazy to research it further |
| 00:21.09 | findlay | all ICMP traffic that is |
| 00:25.55 | graphyx | It can be useful to block icmp time requests. |
| 00:26.15 | graphyx | or potentially echo reply packets outbound. |
| 00:26.35 | graphyx | to prevent network hop analysis to get a map of the network. |
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| 00:39.06 | graphyx | was there a netsplit or something? |
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| 00:41.00 | nick125_lappy | graphyx: yeah |
| 00:41.58 | graphyx | figures. |
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| 00:42.10 | graphyx | it is elg's fault after all... |
| 00:42.16 | elg | -lart graphyx |
| 00:42.28 | graphyx | touche' |
| 00:42.34 | graphyx | or rather touchy!! |
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| 00:42.56 | herlo | did anyone see heroes the other night? |
| 00:43.08 | Jayce^ | a few coworkers did |
| 00:43.25 | herlo | what did they think? |
| 00:43.37 | herlo | I am watching it right now, it has potential |
| 00:43.43 | Jayce^ | mixed results |
| 00:43.48 | Jayce^ | promise, but "issues" |
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| 00:44.03 | herlo | Jayce^: yeah, that's kinda what I think too.... |
| 00:44.21 | herlo | Jayce^: you gonna join us in #utos? |
| 00:44.33 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: You'd better! |
| 00:44.34 | Jayce^ | didn't see things had started.. |
| 00:44.46 | herlo | Jayce^: they haven't quite yet |
| 00:44.54 | herlo | just thought I |
| 00:44.57 | herlo | would ask |
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| 00:46.27 | elg | noooo |
| 00:46.43 | Jayce^ | ahh, what a blessing |
| 00:47.00 | Jayce^ | so elg you'd enjoy our november meeting.. |
| 00:47.26 | Jayce^ | tewk_ is presenting on his Cardinal (ruby on parrot) |
| 00:48.10 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: What's Oct? |
| 00:48.20 | Jayce^ | nothing yet |
| 00:49.29 | graphyx | ~oct |
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| 00:51.38 | tewk_ | elg a ruby fan? |
| 00:53.01 | Jayce^ | yes he is |
| 00:53.05 | Jayce^ | among others |
| 00:53.45 | elg | i'm more than a ruby fan. I'm a ruby wind tunnel |
| 00:53.48 | Tene | Wait, ruby's real? |
| 00:53.58 | Tene | I thought it was just a big joke among open-source hackers. |
| 00:55.00 | Tene | kind of like http://elothtes.pbwiki.com/ |
| 00:55.26 | elg | Jayce^,tewk_: sounds cool but i'll be in New Orleans |
| 00:55.54 | Jayce^ | wha? |
| 00:56.53 | elg | icmc2006.org |
| 01:05.36 | graphyx | elg: When you going to Nola? |
| 01:24.23 | findlay | this is retardedd |
| 01:24.26 | findlay | ~lart oct |
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| 01:31.04 | findlay | ~bzfrag oct |
| 01:31.12 | ibot | ACTION squishes oct with a steamroller |
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| 01:33.36 | redbeard1 | bzfrag? wtf? |
| 01:37.31 | redbeard1 | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 01:37.41 | Jayce^ | ~lart redbeard1 |
| 01:39.09 | redbeard1 | ~phooey Jayce^ |
| 01:49.49 | findlay | what does `traceroute 67.137.24.115` give you? |
| 01:59.45 | fozzmoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.45 | fozzmoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.45 | fozzmoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.09 | fozzmoo | 13 Brentwood-mikrotik.veracitycom.net (208.187.181.35)(H!) 3059.829 ms (H!) 3056.746 ms (H!) 3053.562 ms |
| 02:00.39 | fozzmoo | Looks like ELI is up to no good... again. |
| 02:01.08 | billfur | lovely ping |
| 02:02.11 | nick125_lappy | I get the same.. |
| 02:02.13 | nick125_lappy | 10 208.187.199.14 (208.187.199.14) 30.220 ms 23.719 ms 22.968 ms |
| 02:02.14 | nick125_lappy | 11 63.98.126.82 (63.98.126.82) 23.062 ms 24.108 ms 22.574 ms |
| 02:02.14 | nick125_lappy | 12 Brentwood-mikrotik.veracitycom.net (208.187.181.35) 23.350 ms 24.488 ms 24.315 ms |
| 02:02.17 | nick125_lappy | 13 Brentwood-mikrotik.veracitycom.net (208.187.181.35) 3015.608 ms !H 3018.833 ms !H 3021.195 ms !H |
| 02:02.19 | nick125_lappy | tornado ~ # |
| 02:04.51 | mheath | Wow, every once in a while Wikipedia helps me find some profound piece of wisdom |
| 02:05.00 | mheath | something uncomprehendingly useful in this world |
| 02:05.01 | billfur | 18 Brentwood-mikrotik.veracitycom.net (208.187.181.35) 99.673 ms 107.310 ms * |
| 02:05.01 | billfur | 19 Brentwood-mikrotik.veracitycom.net (208.187.181.35) 3088.319 ms !H 3087.133 ms !H 3020.701 ms !H |
| 02:05.20 | mheath | Like: "Der Washlappen kurvt um die Eier; der Trabbi eiert um die Kurven! |
| 02:05.22 | mheath | Hahaha. |
| 02:05.45 | mheath | "The washcloch curves around your balls; the Trabant wobbles around curves." I'm told this is a joke. |
| 02:05.54 | mheath | O.o |
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| 02:17.26 | mheath | From the FAFSA website: Based on answers to specific questions, we have determined you are an "independent" student. Independent students are not required to answer questions about their parents. |
| 02:17.53 | mheath | I wonder what in the world would give them the impression that I'm independent. Probably that I had to put that I'm a military veteran. |
| 02:19.10 | mheath | Everything else on the form just reflects that I'm a 17 year old highschool graduate who makes no money. =P |
| 02:20.46 | mheath | WHAT? "Note: Housing for the 2006-2007 academic year is currently full. As students notify us that their plans have changed to attend the University of Utah, we will cancel their reservation and contact the next person on the waiting list to see if they're still interested." |
| 02:22.04 | elg | mheath: well the year did already start |
| 02:22.16 | elg | mheath: independent on fafsa is good, that means your parents investments don't count |
| 02:22.36 | mheath | elg, Yeah, but I wanted to start there in spring. Doesn't sound like I'll be able to get housing up there |
| 02:22.52 | mheath | Thats a long ways to commute, and I'm not sure I can afford a normal apartment + food.. |
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| 02:23.32 | harleyjpig | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGH! |
| 02:23.54 | elg | -lart harleyjpig |
| 02:24.13 | mheath | I think it must be the fact that I put down that I was a veteran |
| 02:24.18 | harleyjpig | One of them has a little park around it right in the middle of slc |
| 02:24.26 | elg | the couch ate our universal remote, so I just got another one, with more buttons. :) |
| 02:24.47 | mheath | Thats weird. I don't consider myself a veteran, and because I was given an "Entry Level Seperation" I can legally put down that I never served in the armed forces on job applications, etc. |
| 02:24.54 | mheath | BUt the way they word it on the form |
| 02:25.51 | mheath | "You are a veteran if you: Served in active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces, or served as a member of the National Guard or Reserves and were called to service for purposes other than training, or were a cadet or midshipman at one of the service academies, and were released under a condition other than dishonorable." |
| 02:26.05 | harleyjpig | mheath: you never server active duty |
| 02:26.33 | elg | http://www.amazon.com/Magnavox-PMDVR8-8-Device-Specialty-Universal/dp/B0000ALPB9 |
| 02:26.36 | mheath | harleyjpig, Yes, I did. I was at bootcamp. I was receiving active duty pay. |
| 02:26.47 | harleyjpig | boot camp isn't active duty |
| 02:27.43 | mheath | harleyjpig, according to my dd214 it is. |
| 02:28.14 | mheath | Listed as days in active duty in the table on the right |
| 02:29.08 | mheath | Granted, for Entry Level Seperations, they _Did_ say we could legally say we were never in the military. |
| 02:29.14 | harleyjpig | hm .. well, don't know what to tell you. they have a number you can call |
| 02:29.23 | mheath | I'm just nervous about the language in this document |
| 02:29.55 | mheath | Though, I think the purpose of asking you is to see if you're already receiving GI Bill money (I'm not)....they don't want to give you federal grants and the like if they're _already_ paying for your school |
| 02:29.56 | harleyjpig | call the number |
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| 03:17.42 | maquis | bonez41: howdy |
| 03:17.54 | bonez41 | maquis, howdy.. |
| 03:18.02 | bonez41 | are you a grub girl, or more a lilo girl? |
| 03:18.08 | maquis | bonez41: grub |
| 03:18.11 | maquis | you need help? |
| 03:18.38 | bonez41 | yeah...got a few minutes? |
| 03:18.50 | maquis | sure |
| 03:18.53 | maquis | what's the trouble? |
| 03:19.16 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.24 | Sargun | Grub rocks. |
| 03:19.33 | Sargun | LiLo is for old people. |
| 03:19.47 | bonez41 | ok....in my linux box at work....I HAD...two old noisy and hot running IDE drives..one with the mbr and / (root) which booted the machine..and then an SATA drive, 80gb..upon which all other mount points resided, in 3 partitions....plus one swap partition... |
| 03:19.59 | maquis | uh... ok |
| 03:20.05 | bonez41 | Sargun, my saga continues...anyway, jsut updating maquis on this.. |
| 03:20.20 | maquis | (i'll re-read that for comprehension if it is important to the problem) |
| 03:20.24 | bonez41 | so I thought...unwisely..I'll jsut pull those two old drives out, after nearly burning my fingers on them.... |
| 03:21.18 | bonez41 | once I pulled them....now I can no longer boot the sata drive...the problem is that on the ide drive that booted it...in its mbr, I assume was some small piece of code that fooled my old BIOS, into seeing the entire SATA drive, i.e., past cylinder 1023 |
| 03:21.42 | bonez41 | with me so far? |
| 03:22.03 | maquis | mmk |
| 03:22.15 | maquis | have you tried grub-install? |
| 03:22.16 | bonez41 | today, after creating a grub install disk here at home ..on good floppy media..I was able to boot up my machine.....to a grub > prompt... |
| 03:22.25 | maquis | oh fun |
| 03:22.31 | maquis | grub prompts are icky |
| 03:22.44 | mheath | Heh. And the final result of spending an hour filling out the FAFSA: I'm going to get....(drum roll please)....NOTHING! |
| 03:23.17 | mheath | Your estimated Expected Family Contribute (EFC) is: 70930. Translation: When I go to MIT or Harvard, perhaps I'll get some student aid. |
| 03:23.22 | mheath | *Contribution |
| 03:23.42 | bonez41 | what's lacking now, is the code to allow my BIOS to see the SATA drive......I have a diskette from the BIOS company..who is sending me an updated BIOS chip..here tomorrow hopefully....but until then.....I can't seem to boot the system, with the LBA or translation code , such that grub can see and access the full SATA drive..and thus write to the boot sector on it...and install grub... |
| 03:24.09 | maquis | hmmm |
| 03:25.40 | bonez41 | the problem...I run root (hd2,0) [this is with the two older drives hooked back up and powered up] is that when I point root at the SATA drive, it sees there are 4 partitions, but says it can't access them owing to the BIOS not recognizing their size, as it's too big |
| 03:27.58 | bonez41 | sounds pretty complicated....if I could just combine the code provided by their disk manager with the grub disk....so that grub could tell the BIOS to see everything, to translate it all correctly...I'd be flying....then I believe I could rewrite the mbr on the SATA.....so that it owuld boot up correctly |
| 03:29.43 | bonez41 | sorry, maquis...... |
| 03:29.53 | maquis | bonez41: shot in the dark here, but could you dd the MBR-ish stuff from the original drive to the SATA one? |
| 03:29.58 | maquis | (and then modify it?) |
| 03:30.20 | maquis | bonez41: np... i'm kinda beat from work, but it's an interesting problem |
| 03:32.08 | bonez41 | maquis, that's what I originally did..I dd'd it to a floppy, and then thougth I had dd'd it from the floppy to the SATA...... |
| 03:32.29 | maquis | hmmm |
| 03:32.30 | maquis | ok |
| 03:32.30 | bonez41 | not to worry, maquis....don't mean to scramble your brain tonight with my little challenge..... |
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| 03:36.03 | bonez41 | I think my new BIOS chip will arrive tomorrow and hopefully all my woes will vanish when it's installed..... |
| 03:36.56 | bonez41 | is it possible to create a grub disk....and load on a kernel....and root directory, so that I could boot with that floppy, but then once booted, shift the attention and operation over to my linux installation on the SATA drive? |
| 03:37.11 | maquis | bonez41: i dunno |
| 03:41.28 | bonez41 | ok....... |
| 03:41.36 | mheath | bonez41, I'm guessing that at some point, you had the actual kernel on one of those IDE disks. |
| 03:41.59 | mheath | Because, AFAIK, grub only supports booting from BIOS disks |
| 03:42.30 | bonez41 | yeah, I think so...but now, I wonder...cause I run through grub..and find root and then load the kernel but I get kernal panic, since whatever initrd images are there...are NOT matched up with the kernels I am loading... |
| 03:42.35 | bonez41 | despite the same naming |
| 03:42.54 | bonez41 | what is a BIOS DISK? |
| 03:43.10 | bonez41 | BIOS is EPROM, right? |
| 03:45.06 | Sargun | EEPROM IIRC? |
| 03:45.16 | Sargun | ~define EEPROM |
| 03:45.24 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 03:45.24 | Sargun | ~dictionary EEPROM |
| 03:45.28 | ibot | see dict EEPROM |
| 03:45.28 | Sargun | ~dictionary EPROM |
| 03:45.31 | ibot | see dict EPROM |
| 03:45.31 | Sargun | ~dict EPROM |
| 03:45.34 | Sargun | ~dict EEPROM |
| 03:45.51 | Sargun | EPROM = EEPROM |
| 03:46.12 | bonez41 | is it possible for a virus to invade a BIOS and write to it, and corrupt it? |
| 03:46.25 | Sargun | yeah |
| 03:47.15 | Sargun | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIH_virus |
| 03:47.17 | Sargun | Ta-da |
| 03:47.55 | bonez41 | I have an SATA controller card....with which my SATA drive hooks into my system...I assume the controller card software has written to the BIOS..since the controller BIOS info shows up, even if no drives are connected... |
| 04:22.20 | bonez39 | am I still visible here? |
| 04:23.33 | Sargun | sure |
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| 04:26.21 | bonez39 | ok |
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| 04:41.29 | lars-ut | ~assimilate ibot |
| 04:41.32 | ibot | ACTION jams assimilation tubes into ibot's neck and injects Borg nanobots. |
| 04:41.45 | lars-ut | that ought to recurse |
| 04:41.53 | lars-ut | gente! |
| 04:47.41 | lars-ut | coitado - ja nao estou no canal por meses e agora... silencio. |
| 04:47.54 | lars-ut | Volto outra vez |
| 04:48.54 | elg | -lars ut |
| 04:49.00 | lars-ut | yo |
| 04:51.26 | mheath | =\ |
| 04:51.37 | mheath | I don't know if I'll even be able to get housing at the UoU. |
| 04:52.01 | Sargun | that sucks. |
| 04:52.10 | lars-ut | mheath: thought you joined up with the marines |
| 04:52.13 | mheath | Weber State is cheaper, closer, housing is cheaper and available....but their CS department sucks. |
| 04:52.19 | Sargun | lars-ut, I thought your name was lars, not debbie. |
| 04:52.25 | mheath | lars-ut, got discharged for medical reason |
| 04:52.26 | mheath | *reaons |
| 04:52.30 | mheath | agh |
| 04:52.30 | Sargun | ~mheath |
| 04:52.32 | ibot | it has been said that mheath is a cool guy who hasn't set any world records :) |
| 04:52.33 | mheath | *reasons |
| 04:52.43 | lars-ut | sorry it din't work out mheath |
| 04:52.45 | Sargun | mheath, still on the ignore? |
| 04:52.53 | lars-ut | Sargun: I'm on my wife's XP lapptop |
| 04:53.09 | mheath | woah, is Sargun around or did ibot take a fancy to striking up conversation about me. |
| 04:53.28 | mheath | lars-ut, Yeah, it sucks. But I'm trying get setup to go to college right now....starting in spring. |
| 04:53.36 | lars-ut | groovy |
| 04:53.53 | lars-ut | Sargun, I thought you were, ummm Sargun? |
| 04:53.57 | Sargun | heh, that means I am not on the /ignore |
| 04:54.05 | Sargun | lars-ut, sure. |
| 04:54.13 | Sargun | xbmodder/Sargun |
| 04:54.19 | lars-ut | ah. |
| 04:55.05 | mheath | Heh. I wonder what MITs graduate program is like. How hard it is to get accepted. |
| 04:55.11 | mheath | Yet another trivial speculation though |
| 04:55.17 | lars-ut | ~lars-ut |
| 04:55.18 | ibot | [lars-ut] the SoftwareFor.org project manager, and UVLUG co-founder and trustee. http://uvlug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=memberpages:lars_rasmussen |
| 04:55.49 | Jayce^ | lars-ut, faz bastante tempo que nao se visite |
| 04:56.39 | lars-ut | Jayce^: bem, agora sou no mundo de Unisys e Microsoft para meu trabalho |
| 04:56.53 | Jayce^ | *shudder* |
| 04:57.00 | mheath | A question: Would it be at all likely that someone with a perfect GPA at Weber State University would be considered for a graduate program at MIT? |
| 04:57.19 | Jayce^ | you'd probably have to have a lot more than just that |
| 04:57.39 | Sargun | mheath, impossibly hard. |
| 04:57.59 | lars-ut | faz bem a falar o idioma puro |
| 04:58.05 | Sargun | out of 1000people |
| 04:58.43 | Jayce^ | e verdade... tenho vizinho's brasileiros, e outrous que as fizeiram as missoes ai |
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| 04:59.50 | lars-ut | Jayce^: Quero voltar ... preciso procurar mais informacoes a resp. da abertura do templo na Curitiba |
| 05:00.34 | Jayce^ | uai, sera os ultimos dias quando o BH tem um templo |
| 05:00.52 | lars-ut | lol |
| 05:01.06 | mheath | Eu falo o português muito bom do babelfish eu mesmo. |
| 05:01.26 | lars-ut | nice effort mheath |
| 05:01.29 | Jayce^ | *snicker*.... not really :) |
| 05:01.52 | mheath | What does that say? It was supposed to be "I speak very good babelfish portuguese myself." |
| 05:01.59 | lars-ut | I'd like to learn Mandarin |
| 05:02.03 | Jayce^ | kinda, but very broken |
| 05:02.22 | Jayce^ | I'd like norweigan, or welsh.. |
| 05:03.02 | lars-ut | Jayce^: first choice for another language? and you can't choose Perl.... |
| 05:03.12 | lars-ut | you've already got that one down anyway |
| 05:03.33 | mheath | Yo comprendo chicito espaneol (properly butchered spelling...I only spoke, never learned to write) |
| 05:03.35 | Jayce^ | like I said, norweigan or Welsh |
| 05:03.59 | Jayce^ | ich gesprichts deutsch.. |
| 05:04.15 | mheath | Ik wil het Nederlands leren. |
| 05:04.29 | lars-ut | Ich bin ein auslander |
| 05:04.42 | mheath | Ik gekscheer. |
| 05:05.14 | lars-ut | crap - now it's me who's gonna have to go to Babelfish... |
| 05:05.31 | lars-ut | uh oh - I said crap. Is that G? or PG? |
| 05:05.48 | maquis | wo hui shuo yi dian dian di zhongwen |
| 05:05.59 | Jayce^ | WTF.. maquis is back in here |
| 05:06.00 | lars-ut | hun hau! |
| 05:06.03 | Jayce^ | who let her in |
| 05:06.05 | mheath | Rencontrez-moi sur le dock, et apportez de la vodka de piaulement. Nous deviendrons ivres, et vomissons probablement le matin. |
| 05:06.11 | mheath | French is such a beautiful language ;-P |
| 05:06.19 | Jayce^ | bleh |
| 05:06.24 | Jayce^ | now the room is dirty |
| 05:07.23 | mheath | Jayce^ s'habillera dans un équipement français de bonne et le nettoiera pour nous. |
| 05:07.42 | levi_home | lars-ut: You know PWEI did a song called Ich Bin Ein Auslander? |
| 05:08.10 | lars-ut | levi: that's the only reason I knew that bit of German |
| 05:08.31 | levi_home | Heh. |
| 05:08.41 | levi_home | I picked up that CD back when X96 played it a lot. |
| 05:09.22 | mheath | Wow. |
| 05:09.30 | mheath | As an experiment, I tried translating a phrase... |
| 05:09.46 | mheath | English->French->Greek->French->German->English with babelfish |
| 05:09.55 | lars-ut | levi_home: I bought "THE TIMELORDS / KLF - Doctorin' The Tardis" - yet another obsucre one |
| 05:10.07 | lars-ut | probably close to the same time period |
| 05:10.10 | levi_home | lars-ut: Ooh, I love that one. |
| 05:10.12 | mheath | Actually came out more accurate than English->French->English |
| 05:11.09 | lars-ut | workin' on a mix CD for my bro' and I've been buyin' tracks (yes I said "buy") from allofmp3.com, I still need that new Depeche Mode track "Martyr" |
| 05:11.31 | levi_home | Is it from Playing the Angel? |
| 05:11.35 | lars-ut | no! |
| 05:11.46 | levi_home | Ooh, it's even newer than that? |
| 05:11.50 | lars-ut | It's from their forthcoming best of - to be released on Nov 14 |
| 05:11.59 | levi_home | Huh, another best of. |
| 05:12.10 | lars-ut | I caught about 20 sec on X96 - track was released on 9-25 |
| 05:12.32 | lars-ut | limited release to radio stations |
| 05:12.58 | lars-ut | ticks me off thatI'm willing to pay for a track w/o DRM & can't find it |
| 05:13.23 | lars-ut | but such are the perils of buying your music from the Russians |
| 05:13.53 | lars-ut | http://larsrasmussen.blogspot.com/2006/09/how-much-is-that-song-worth-less-than.html |
| 05:14.20 | levi_home | It's on the bittorrent networks, apparently. |
| 05:14.42 | lars-ut | I'll likely steal it & buy it later. |
| 05:15.30 | lars-ut | apathy++ |
| 05:27.44 | levi_home | I'm getting XP set up on a speedy new hard drive. |
| 05:28.06 | lars-ut | I've made some really slick unattended installs for XP at work lately |
| 05:28.13 | lars-ut | ryanvm.net |
| 05:28.20 | lars-ut | excellent tool |
| 05:28.54 | lars-ut | I've also been making switchless installers that execute after the OS gets installed |
| 05:29.53 | lars-ut | hmm.. maybe Sea of Sin(Sensoria Mix) would be better than this new track Martyr... |
| 05:29.59 | lars-ut | for that mix CD |
| 05:30.27 | lars-ut | what was the name of that compilation of DM covers? |
| 05:30.42 | lars-ut | levi_home, Jayce^? |
| 05:31.17 | lars-ut | ~google compilation of DM covers |
| 05:32.06 | lars-ut | levi_home: : how speedy? link? |
| 05:32.31 | levi_home | Not super speedy... it's just a 160gb SATA drive. |
| 05:32.37 | lars-ut | very nice. |
| 05:33.00 | lars-ut | any problems with installing from scratch using XP/SATA? |
| 05:33.03 | levi_home | It's supposed to be 3gb/s SATA, for whatever that's worth. |
| 05:33.06 | levi_home | Nope, no problems. |
| 05:33.16 | lars-ut | SP2 CD? |
| 05:33.21 | levi_home | Yeah. |
| 05:33.59 | lars-ut | I was annoyed when I installed SP2 on this laptop & 56 post-SP2 updates later I was done. |
| 05:34.09 | lars-ut | hence ryanvm |
| 05:34.31 | levi_home | Heh. |
| 05:34.47 | lars-ut | Takes about an hour to roll your own ISO, and maybe 30 minutes to run the install |
| 05:35.03 | levi_home | I hate how every day or two there's a new update. |
| 05:35.21 | lars-ut | MS released out of cycle this week |
| 05:35.41 | lars-ut | ususally it's "patch Tuesday" at the beginning of each month |
| 05:36.47 | lars-ut | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-055.mspx |
| 05:38.02 | lars-ut | think I'm going to watch some eps of The Brak Show & go to bed |
| 05:38.28 | lars-ut | seventh-grade humor works sometimes |
| 05:39.30 | lars-ut | levi_home: You might be surprised to note that my Ashdown for Senate sign was out for about 2 months before my sweetie & I had a discussion about it |
| 05:39.33 | fozzmoo | M$ was still way-late on this one. |
| 05:39.44 | lars-ut | fozzmoo: really? |
| 05:39.58 | lars-ut | levi_home: I lost. |
| 05:40.09 | fozzmoo | Considering the severity of the exploit, yeah. |
| 05:40.18 | fozzmoo | lars-ut: You lost the discussion? |
| 05:40.24 | fozzmoo | How do you lose a discussion? |
| 05:40.32 | lars-ut | I always lose the discussion |
| 05:40.37 | lars-ut | :) |
| 05:40.54 | fozzmoo | What is the the status of the Ashdown For Senate sign? |
| 05:40.59 | lars-ut | Where did I put that neurotranmitter... |
| 05:41.15 | lars-ut | fozzmoo: It has been removed |
| 05:41.25 | lars-ut | :( |
| 05:41.34 | fozzmoo | Because your "sweetie" said so? |
| 05:41.39 | lars-ut | pretty much. |
| 05:41.43 | fozzmoo | I'm confused. |
| 05:42.16 | Sargun | lars-ut, hi sweetie! |
| 05:42.29 | fozzmoo | I mean, was it because she's generally unsupportive of being involved in the political realm (understandable) or because she feels Ashdown is not the better candidate? |
| 05:42.32 | lars-ut | xbmodder: don't make me... |
| 05:42.35 | Sargun | heh |
| 05:42.37 | Sargun | :-) |
| 05:42.55 | lars-ut | fozzmoo: Pete didn't really give a straight up reply to my wife's email to him re: her litmus gay marriage test |
| 05:43.06 | fozzmoo | Oh dear. |
| 05:43.11 | fozzmoo | The single-issue voter. |
| 05:43.15 | lars-ut | yep |
| 05:43.26 | lars-ut | I love er & strongly disagree |
| 05:44.29 | lars-ut | I just think Pete more closely represents me |
| 05:44.30 | fozzmoo | I disagree with Pete on a lot of stuff because I'm pretty conservative and he's deluded with socialistic idealism, but I'm still voting for him because he'd still be better for the state than Uncle Orri. |
| 05:44.39 | lars-ut | agreed |
| 05:44.58 | fozzmoo | Besides, he's my friend. :) |
| 05:45.06 | fozzmoo | Orrin's creepy. |
| 05:45.15 | fozzmoo | He hugged my dad once. |
| 05:45.26 | lars-ut | I can't reconcile his funding |
| 05:45.50 | fozzmoo | What is Orrin doin with all the money? I have yet to see a Vote-For-Orrin sign. |
| 05:46.06 | fozzmoo | Does he even know he's up for re-election? |
| 05:46.13 | lars-ut | good point. |
| 05:46.28 | lars-ut | It's in the bag, I guess. |
| 05:46.34 | fozzmoo | Probably. |
| 05:46.44 | fozzmoo | And then, next year, Pete can run for Rocky's seat. |
| 05:46.53 | lars-ut | That would be cool! |
| 05:47.07 | fozzmoo | I agree. It'd be nice to get someone who wasn't a complete crackpot as mayor of SLC. |
| 05:47.18 | lars-ut | lol |
| 05:47.25 | fozzmoo | We've had about three complete jackasses in that office at this point. |
| 05:47.35 | lars-ut | hey now, what was wrong with Corradini? |
| 05:47.40 | lars-ut | :) |
| 05:47.44 | lars-ut | still lol |
| 05:47.50 | fozzmoo | Or Ted Wilson? |
| 05:47.59 | fozzmoo | Don't want to go there. :) |
| 05:48.39 | lars-ut | I think there is some sort of "friends of the Tribune" candidate pool |
| 05:48.56 | lars-ut | with a big shallow end. |
| 05:49.10 | fozzmoo | Every time I hear about Rocky, I think of this Cal Grondahl comic that ran in the Std Examiner the first time Bush came to SLC to speak... |
| 05:49.58 | fozzmoo | The comic showed Rocky with a bandana tied around his forehead, wearing a vest, rallying protesters in Pioneer Park as the Bush motorcade drove by. |
| 05:50.11 | lars-ut | lol |
| 05:50.20 | fozzmoo | The protesters hoisted a sign up which read "STOP LEGACY!" |
| 05:50.32 | fozzmoo | And Rocky's yelling, "No! That's the wrong one!" |
| 05:50.38 | lars-ut | LOL |
| 05:50.40 | fozzmoo | and Bush just has a puzzled look on his face. |
| 05:50.54 | lars-ut | that is awesome |
| 05:51.07 | fozzmoo | It was dang good. |
| 05:51.21 | lars-ut | hecka' good? |
| 05:52.14 | fozzmoo | What was it Lamont and herlo saw the other day? Heck is where you go if you don't believe in Gosh. |
| 05:52.27 | lars-ut | fozzmoo: I had fun reading the notes from UTOS meeting |
| 05:52.28 | levi_home | Heh, yeah. |
| 05:52.29 | Sargun | 'dat be Socal talk! |
| 05:52.38 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, we know you really like rocky... |
| 05:52.55 | fozzmoo | Well, he's not an unattractive man. |
| 05:53.07 | lars-ut | How many assistants has he had fired? or was it another position? |
| 05:53.07 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 05:53.27 | fozzmoo | I don't know how may press secretaries he's gone through. |
| 05:53.40 | lars-ut | maybe that's what I'm thinking... |
| 05:53.56 | fozzmoo | "You talked to the Tribune?!" |
| 05:54.00 | lars-ut | lol |
| 05:54.02 | fozzmoo | "It's my job, sir." |
| 05:54.06 | fozzmoo | "You're FIRED!" |
| 05:54.38 | fozzmoo | lars-ut: I need to read those UTOS notes. |
| 05:54.57 | fozzmoo | I kinda had a weird evening. Didn't get to participate as much as I would have liked to. |
| 05:55.07 | fozzmoo | Having glanced over the notes... |
| 05:55.12 | lars-ut | I think you guys should emulate some of the O'Reilly OSCONs |
| 05:55.47 | fozzmoo | I'm getting a vague notion that Mr. Toponce has some strong opinions which we are required to share. |
| 05:56.08 | fozzmoo | lars-ut: I haven't been to an OSCON. |
| 05:56.16 | fozzmoo | Tell me why they rock your world. |
| 05:56.20 | lars-ut | me neither - just podcasts |
| 05:56.29 | lars-ut | I enjoy them |
| 05:56.42 | Jayce^ | they rock my world.... |
| 05:56.45 | Jayce^ | plain and simple |
| 05:56.48 | lars-ut | http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2006/ |
| 05:57.01 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: We know. |
| 05:57.04 | fozzmoo | WE KNOW! |
| 05:57.07 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 05:57.08 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 05:57.22 | fozzmoo | I should plan on going this next time around. |
| 05:57.30 | fozzmoo | I haven't been to a good conference in about 5 years. |
| 05:57.42 | lars-ut | What, brainshare doesn't count? |
| 05:57.45 | fozzmoo | Wanted to go to ApacheCon when they were in Vegas a couple years ago... but it didn't happen. |
| 05:57.59 | fozzmoo | Never been to BS. |
| 05:58.04 | lars-ut | don't. |
| 05:58.10 | Jayce^ | bs is... |
| 05:59.48 | fozzmoo | So... what aspects of OSCON should we integrate into OSCON? |
| 05:59.55 | lars-ut | social |
| 06:00.00 | lars-ut | fun stuff |
| 06:00.01 | fozzmoo | UTOS. |
| 06:00.08 | fozzmoo | Social fun stuff? |
| 06:00.29 | fozzmoo | it has been suggested that Sons Of Nothing play a show Friday evening at UTOS. |
| 06:00.57 | lars-ut | I have no idea who that is, but, I think that having a band might be a good idea |
| 06:01.26 | fozzmoo | Pink Floyd tribute and prog-rock band that I'm involved in. |
| 06:01.36 | fozzmoo | I do all the visual effects and what-not... |
| 06:01.40 | fozzmoo | All Linux-powered. |
| 06:01.49 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, I was one to suggest that |
| 06:01.54 | lars-ut | fozzmoo: that would be fun |
| 06:02.08 | fozzmoo | I think it would be cool. |
| 06:02.27 | fozzmoo | Now we just need to find a site for this conference that will make it accomplishable... possidoable? |
| 06:02.51 | lars-ut | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/05/where_20_pixie_hunt.html |
| 06:02.59 | lars-ut | I thought this was a great idea |
| 06:03.17 | lars-ut | encouraged geek socialization in a tech scavenger hunt sort of way |
| 06:03.33 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: Paintball? |
| 06:03.55 | lars-ut | that would have to be distanced from the CON |
| 06:04.06 | lars-ut | or can you keep it close by? |
| 06:04.23 | lars-ut | maybe just random snipers |
| 06:04.27 | fozzmoo | heh. Guess it depends on where we end up holding the thing. |
| 06:04.38 | lars-ut | lsiten for the occasional scream... |
| 06:05.01 | fozzmoo | Be cool to do a screening of Revolution OS at the Broadway Theater or something for the UTOSC |
| 06:05.32 | lars-ut | another good idea |
| 06:05.59 | fozzmoo | I know my kids would thrilled about coming to a lan-party if SuperTux or PP/TuxRacer were involved. |
| 06:06.12 | lars-ut | kiosks? |
| 06:06.22 | lars-ut | a small tux room? |
| 06:06.25 | fozzmoo | perhaps |
| 06:06.39 | fozzmoo | A Tux cake tasting. :) |
| 06:06.50 | lars-ut | pains me to hear it |
| 06:06.54 | fozzmoo | Not quite as sophisticated as a wine tasting.. |
| 06:06.59 | lars-ut | only because I didn't attend |
| 06:07.10 | lars-ut | reading about that cake made me ravenous |
| 06:07.23 | fozzmoo | That cake... was... out of this world. |
| 06:07.44 | fozzmoo | The modeling chocolate on the outside was too rich for me... but the cake inside was to die for. |
| 06:08.03 | lars-ut | Joseph is talented. |
| 06:08.05 | fozzmoo | I coulnd't get very much, being diabetic. I wanted more more more more. |
| 06:08.20 | lars-ut | that's what insulin pumps are for! |
| 06:08.28 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 06:08.35 | lars-ut | dial it up... |
| 06:08.45 | Jayce^ | bah, insulin pumps.. |
| 06:08.47 | lars-ut | "That's the stuff" |
| 06:08.51 | Jayce^ | my mom went low again today |
| 06:08.56 | fozzmoo | That sucks. |
| 06:09.00 | lars-ut | sorry |
| 06:09.03 | Jayce^ | had to give her the glucogun again |
| 06:09.05 | fozzmoo | how low? |
| 06:09.06 | Jayce^ | common thing |
| 06:09.15 | Sargun | :-/ |
| 06:09.23 | Jayce^ | she's been a bit better since she got that new monitor, does the real time checkups |
| 06:09.29 | fozzmoo | Is the glucogun some kind of modification you've made to one of your paintball guns? |
| 06:09.31 | Jayce^ | today was only ~35 when I got there |
| 06:09.37 | fozzmoo | OUCH! |
| 06:09.37 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, should be with the amount I use it |
| 06:09.39 | lars-ut | crap |
| 06:09.47 | Sargun | fozzmoo, PP? |
| 06:09.52 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, that's nothing, I've caught her at 11 before |
| 06:09.58 | lars-ut | Jayce^: that's common? |
| 06:10.04 | fozzmoo | I don't think I've ever been below 40 or 50. |
| 06:10.09 | fozzmoo | Sargun: PP? |
| 06:10.12 | Jayce^ | common is in the 30s to 40s |
| 06:10.25 | lars-ut | coma - land |
| 06:10.28 | fozzmoo | I only go that low in the middle of the night. |
| 06:10.36 | Jayce^ | not as much this last year, with some newer equipment, but often before that |
| 06:10.39 | fozzmoo | I wake up dazed and in a cold sweat. |
| 06:10.48 | fozzmoo | One time I had to crawl to the kitchen. |
| 06:10.52 | Jayce^ | you're lucky you wake up at that level |
| 06:10.55 | Sargun | fozzmoo I know my kids would thrilled about coming to a lan-party if SuperTux or PP/TuxRacer were involved. |
| 06:11.05 | fozzmoo | Ate three bowls of capn crunch. |
| 06:11.21 | fozzmoo | Sargun: Ahh, yes... |
| 06:11.31 | Sargun | PP? |
| 06:11.41 | fozzmoo | FC5 extras has some new kind of TuxRacer... |
| 06:11.45 | lars-ut | fozzmoo: that'll tear up the mouth & pur the corn syrup right into the blood stream |
| 06:12.09 | Sargun | hm |
| 06:12.20 | fozzmoo | I don't know what the reason is for the name change. |
| 06:12.23 | Jayce^ | a glucogun is a shot that is easily given, is about 1cc of pure glucosamin, you mix two parts, then load the shot and give it... 10-12 minutes later +150 blood sugar :) |
| 06:12.40 | Jayce^ | wears off real quick though, nasty stomach and headache afterwards |
| 06:12.44 | fozzmoo | Planet Penguin Racer. |
| 06:13.01 | fozzmoo | PPRacer is a simple OpenGL-based racing game featuring Tux. http://projects.planetpenguin.de/racer/ |
| 06:13.02 | Jayce^ | but it sure works when you the person has dropped below the ability to force them to drink some juice or similar |
| 06:13.53 | Sargun | lars-ut, ? |
| 06:13.57 | fozzmoo | So, it's a needle-delivered or is it one of those sub-dermal hypospray things? |
| 06:14.04 | fozzmoo | Sargun: Futurama. |
| 06:14.26 | Sargun | yeah, I know, but who is Laurie? |
| 06:14.34 | lars-ut | House - MD |
| 06:14.43 | fozzmoo | oh. |
| 06:14.55 | fozzmoo | I watched ep 2 of Studio 60 tonight. |
| 06:15.05 | Jayce^ | needle |
| 06:15.05 | fozzmoo | Not bad. Not bad. |
| 06:15.26 | Jayce^ | small red box comes with the needle holding one chemical, and a glass with the other |
| 06:15.39 | fozzmoo | Sounds expensive. |
| 06:15.39 | Jayce^ | you inject into the bottle, shake around a second, then draw it all back out |
| 06:16.06 | Jayce^ | yeah, not too cheap, and yet we keep several on hand |
| 06:17.40 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: You're a good, good son. |
| 06:26.46 | *** join/#utah southsky (n=southsky@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 06:26.53 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, you do what you have to |
| 06:28.58 | lars-ut | tracks for mix CD: |
| 06:29.07 | lars-ut | Massive Attack - Teardrop |
| 06:29.31 | lars-ut | Smashing Pumpkins - Tonight, Tonight |
| 06:29.51 | fozzmoo | Nice - Massive Attack. |
| 06:30.08 | lars-ut | I love "What Your Soul Sings" |
| 06:30.41 | Jayce^ | Orbital - Chime |
| 06:30.48 | fozzmoo | Very nice. :) |
| 06:31.13 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: what's that from? |
| 06:31.13 | lars-ut | Red Jump Suit Appartus - some song I might not include |
| 06:31.34 | Jayce^ | Halcyon Single |
| 06:31.56 | fozzmoo | Oh man, I don't have that! |
| 06:32.11 | lars-ut | Chime (7" Single Version)? |
| 06:33.08 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 06:35.27 | Jayce^ | hehe :) |
| 06:35.34 | fozzmoo | allthemp3s? |
| 06:35.41 | Jayce^ | now lars-ut has it, and fozzmoo doesn't |
| 06:35.47 | lars-ut | allofmp3.com, of course. |
| 06:36.00 | lars-ut | listening to it now |
| 06:36.39 | fozzmoo | Ahh. but I belong to an exclusive society of FLAC traders. :) |
| 06:37.03 | lars-ut | I didn't have the patience. |
| 06:38.18 | lars-ut | another track - Mat_Kearney\Nothing_Left_To_Lose (2006)\02-Nothing_Left_To_Lose.mp3 |
| 06:38.36 | lars-ut | yes, I ejoy some of the pop |
| 06:39.18 | Sargun | nobody here likes RAP, right? |
| 06:39.23 | lars-ut | Dreams by Fleetwood Mac is gonna go in there too. |
| 06:40.02 | Jayce^ | Sargun, well, I like White and Nerdy! |
| 06:40.18 | lars-ut | Death_Cab_For_Cutie\Plans (2005)/05-I_Will_Follow_You_Into_The_Dark.mp3 |
| 06:40.26 | Sargun | Jayce^, its so funny :-D |
| 06:40.29 | fozzmoo | Yeah- W&N is good. |
| 06:40.36 | lars-ut | Blue October - Into the Ocean |
| 06:40.41 | fozzmoo | Watched the Al DVD last night. |
| 06:41.01 | fozzmoo | Pretty good stuff on there. That CD/DVD is worth a buy. |
| 06:41.14 | fozzmoo | Unfortunately, the W&N video (as seen on YouTube, etc.) isn't on the DVD. |
| 06:41.26 | Jayce^ | neither is a "california idiot" |
| 06:41.37 | lars-ut | Oh, that reminds me, bitmetv.org has got 1920x1080 of Battlestar galactica miniseries & seasons 1&2 (1080i) |
| 06:41.48 | fozzmoo | Whoa. |
| 06:42.04 | Jayce^ | nice, now if my laptop could play them |
| 06:42.18 | fozzmoo | I'm so mad at them for pricing the S2 (.0 and .1) DVDs so high. |
| 06:42.19 | Jayce^ | how long has the torrent been up? |
| 06:42.23 | nick125_lappy | you pirates! |
| 06:42.27 | Jayce^ | don't want to get in on it late |
| 06:42.32 | lars-ut | Jayce^: about 3 weeks |
| 06:42.53 | Jayce^ | ah, I'd nto get any up from it then |
| 06:43.01 | lars-ut | nope |
| 06:43.13 | Jayce^ | should jsut get a burn from you then :) |
| 06:43.17 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 06:43.26 | lars-ut | can do. |
| 06:43.30 | lars-ut | well not really |
| 06:43.30 | fozzmoo | How big are those?! |
| 06:43.35 | lars-ut | 11GB |
| 06:43.42 | lars-ut | for the miniseries |
| 06:43.53 | lars-ut | That's all I wanted. |
| 06:43.54 | fozzmoo | Whew. |
| 06:43.56 | Jayce^ | 3 dvd |
| 06:44.11 | lars-ut | one portable 2.5" hdd |
| 06:44.15 | Jayce^ | oh, just that part :) |
| 06:44.23 | lars-ut | yep. |
| 06:44.26 | Jayce^ | yeah, I'd want to get all of them at that size |
| 06:44.38 | lars-ut | I don't have the ratio for that - sorry |
| 06:44.38 | Jayce^ | my server drive is full, so I can't grab them |
| 06:44.48 | Jayce^ | I have ratio, just no disk space |
| 06:45.05 | lars-ut | I can get ya' the miniseries, though |
| 06:45.33 | fozzmoo | Looks like tvtorrents has some of that stuff too. |
| 06:45.45 | lars-ut | no ratio probs there if I remember right |
| 06:46.19 | fozzmoo | No mini-series, but a bunch of S2 is HR-HD |
| 06:46.44 | fozzmoo | Might not be 1080i |
| 06:46.44 | lars-ut | oh yeah... I found a device that can play 1080p mpeg2 transport streams - need some extra cash... getting link |
| 06:47.42 | lars-ut | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xpcgear.com%2Fmg350hd.html&ei=928bRcnKGaiUgAOOo-3_BQ&sig=__LTNAG-W1ytJq08eIynE79XfYMx0=&sig2=IKuMkMvRilSa6xHYGJG9Fw |
| 06:47.47 | lars-ut | D'oh! |
| 06:47.52 | lars-ut | sorry - wait |
| 06:47.53 | fozzmoo | xheh |
| 06:48.04 | lars-ut | http://www.xpcgear.com/mg350hd.html |
| 06:48.09 | lars-ut | that's better |
| 06:48.46 | fozzmoo | Will it do xvid/divx-encoded stuff? |
| 06:48.49 | lars-ut | add your own 3.5" drive. |
| 06:48.52 | lars-ut | yes. |
| 06:48.53 | Jayce^ | $250 |
| 06:48.57 | Jayce^ | nice |
| 06:48.59 | lars-ut | + drive |
| 06:49.22 | fozzmoo | Hmmm. HMMM! |
| 06:49.45 | lars-ut | it is the best media device I've seen |
| 06:49.50 | Jayce^ | oooh, can stream off the network too |
| 06:50.00 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 06:50.08 | fozzmoo | I am.. getting all excited and stuff about this thing. |
| 06:50.12 | Jayce^ | supports ogg!!!!!! |
| 06:50.16 | lars-ut | :) |
| 06:50.17 | fozzmoo | OMG! |
| 06:50.37 | lars-ut | If you guys buy one I get to see it. |
| 06:50.52 | Jayce^ | os supported includes linux :) |
| 06:51.07 | lars-ut | It runs linux under the covers |
| 06:51.11 | fozzmoo | I was over at a neighbors house... |
| 06:51.20 | Jayce^ | really? says it does NTFS |
| 06:51.20 | fozzmoo | Actually one of "my families" on Sunday... |
| 06:51.32 | Jayce^ | doesn't mention PATA or SATA |
| 06:51.41 | lars-ut | PATA I think |
| 06:51.42 | fozzmoo | he's got a nice Panasonic projector set up in his basement. |
| 06:51.59 | fozzmoo | he's got an XBox360 down there with a cat-5 cable running to a windows box in the other room. |
| 06:52.10 | fozzmoo | PLayed some HD content on the screen for us. Pretty impressive. |
| 06:52.22 | fozzmoo | It was first time seeing an XBox360, actually. :) |
| 06:52.28 | fozzmoo | my first time, I mean. |
| 06:52.33 | fozzmoo | I lead a sheltered life. |
| 06:53.04 | fozzmoo | He said he liked the XBox setup, but acknowledged that Microsoft only lets him play WMV files. |
| 06:53.15 | fozzmoo | he can't play MPEG or AVI or MOV or anything else. |
| 06:54.23 | Jayce^ | hrm, they have the version without wireless for a lot cheaper? what else is different? |
| 06:54.30 | Jayce^ | http://www.xpcgear.com/altechmg35.html |
| 06:54.32 | lars-ut | chipset |
| 06:54.37 | lars-ut | no 1080p |
| 06:54.48 | lars-ut | and no .ts support |
| 06:54.49 | Jayce^ | ah, 1080i though |
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| 06:56.06 | fozzmoo | Hmmmm. |
| 06:56.25 | fozzmoo | I think I may have found a Christmas gift for each of my employees. :) |
| 06:56.32 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, hire me :-p |
| 06:56.43 | fozzmoo | Last year was the iAudio X5 |
| 06:56.46 | Jayce^ | that's a sexy thing, for sure |
| 06:56.58 | lars-ut | Sigma Design EM8621 Chip is in the $250 one |
| 06:57.11 | Jayce^ | well, my rollout is done, I'm heading home for some sleep now |
| 06:57.13 | Jayce^ | later y'all |
| 06:57.27 | lars-ut | night Jayce^ |
| 06:58.00 | fozzmoo | Maybe I'll check out the MG-35 now. |
| 06:58.27 | fozzmoo | For $120, it'd be a pity or a sin or something if I didn't get one for "evaluation purposes." :) |
| 06:59.51 | lars-ut | fozzmoo, Jayce^: there's a yahoo forum dedicated to hacked firmware for that model(MG-35) |
| 07:00.10 | lars-ut | I have the MG-25 |
| 07:00.25 | fozzmoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:00.27 | fozzmoo | How is it? |
| 07:00.29 | lars-ut | OEMed as Vantec Avox jukebox |
| 07:00.40 | lars-ut | I'm happy with it. |
| 07:00.52 | lars-ut | At least I was until I saw the MG-350HD |
| 07:00.55 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 07:01.32 | lars-ut | Most of the HD content I d/l is only 720p |
| 07:02.02 | lars-ut | And I rarely watch it on an HD capable device, but it scales well to my crap TV |
| 07:03.32 | lars-ut | http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=15509 |
| 07:05.07 | lars-ut | fozzmoo: I should warn you that the remotes on these are crap - you'll want to program them into a learning remote |
| 07:05.15 | lars-ut | no range |
| 07:05.57 | lars-ut | Mine cannot playback & do file copy operations at the same time |
| 07:06.10 | lars-ut | think that's about it on the negatives |
| 07:07.09 | lars-ut | latest firmware releases are here: |
| 07:07.09 | lars-ut | http://www.airlinktek.com/english/atboard.php?param=e_sw |
| 07:07.28 | lars-ut | signing off.. |
| 07:18.12 | Sargun | http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/Misc/electricity.txt |
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| 13:14.51 | emcnabb | I saw a funny bumper sticker in the parking lot at work today: |
| 13:15.03 | emcnabb | "Frodo Failed - Bush has the ring" |
| 13:16.53 | maquis | lol |
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| 13:24.41 | graphyx | Whats up with slashdot? |
| 13:27.50 | atoponce | what isn't up with slashdot? |
| 13:28.00 | graphyx | the website? |
| 13:28.30 | elg | maybe it's been slashdotted? |
| 13:28.40 | atoponce | what about it? it's up here. |
| 13:28.47 | graphyx | Ok. |
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| 13:44.11 | graphyx | ~cook emcnabb |
| 13:44.13 | ibot | ACTION throws emcnabb in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks emcnabb on 350 for an hour |
| 13:44.16 | graphyx | ~fry emcnabb |
| 13:44.17 | ibot | ACTION grabs emcnabb and fries him on his BFCooker9000 |
| 13:44.20 | graphyx | ~steam emcnabb |
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| 13:53.29 | atoponce | emcnabb: i saw a funny political cartoon with karl malone sitting on the bench next to gollum. karl says, reaching out with his hand "my precious". |
| 13:54.58 | atoponce | (during the time when karl went to the lakers) |
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| 14:22.22 | scothoser | Morning everyone! |
| 14:22.38 | graphyx | morning. |
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| 15:34.01 | watrmouse | no, just the 128bit |
| 15:34.49 | synic | watrmouse: ?! |
| 15:35.07 | synic | whater you blathering about? |
| 15:35.23 | watrmouse | I thought i would contribute since i have idled in here for a week and havent said a thing |
| 15:35.35 | synic | heh |
| 15:35.54 | mheath | Wow. WSU took 3 days to reply to my housing inquiry....UoU took a few hours. |
| 15:36.26 | mheath | UoU wrote with proper English, whereas WSU wrote horribly and very intelligibly. |
| 15:36.39 | mheath | *and barely intelligibly |
| 15:38.50 | fozzmoo | I guess that means WSU sucks crap and UofU rules the universe. :) |
| 15:39.28 | mheath | and the good news is: UoU website said their housing was full and that there was a waiting list. Apparently, though, this doesn't apply for spring semester :) |
| 15:39.54 | ^Migs^ | no, it means WSU needs better webmasters |
| 15:40.29 | tensai | I thought it meant the planet was about to implode |
| 15:40.33 | mheath | ^Migs^, It wasn't the webmasters |
| 15:40.38 | mheath | it was an e-mail to their housing office |
| 15:40.47 | fozzmoo | That's beside the point. |
| 15:40.51 | ^Migs^ | maybe the recipient was on vacation |
| 15:41.14 | ^Migs^ | whenever I go on vacation, I'm usually backed up with a week of emails |
| 15:41.22 | mheath | ^Migs^, maybe the recipient make english words good. |
| 15:41.26 | ^Migs^ | and sometimes I just ignore some emails because they're asking stupid questions |
| 15:41.27 | mheath | The grammer was uneblievable. |
| 15:41.32 | elg | grammar |
| 15:41.34 | ^Migs^ | copy and paste it into a pastebin |
| 15:41.36 | ^Migs^ | unbelieveable |
| 15:41.49 | ^Migs^ | we need a quote bot in here |
| 15:42.04 | elg | no, it's believable |
| 15:42.11 | elg | er, unbelievable |
| 15:42.14 | ^Migs^ | actually, I think both are acceptable |
| 15:42.15 | elg | the spelling |
| 15:42.20 | elg | not according to my dictionary |
| 15:42.39 | ^Migs^ | your dictionary is outdated |
| 15:42.53 | bonez41 | mheath, though you do write the word 'blievable' as Elder McKonkie preferred pronouncing it.....with no 'e' after the b or before the l |
| 15:42.53 | elg | if you say so |
| 15:43.05 | fozzmoo | Grammer is the guy who played Fraiser on TV. |
| 15:43.06 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 15:43.07 | ^Migs^ | dictionaries don't set the rules for spelling. They examine current trends in spelling. The instant after dictionaries go to print, they become out of date. |
| 15:43.16 | mheath | bonez41, indeed, I write in Utahnian :P |
| 15:43.39 | mheath | Erm, I guess that would be "Utetoeneean" |
| 15:43.48 | elg | and the rules of spelling don't change just because dictionaries are outdated by your definition |
| 15:43.58 | mheath | elg, Yes they do. |
| 15:44.09 | bonez41 | it's also like how our beloved Prez...pronounces that strange notion of Nu Que... Lurr..... versus the correct Nu Kleee Urrrrrr |
| 15:44.16 | ^Migs^ | "rules of spelling" (whatever that means) has nothing to do with dictionaries |
| 15:44.16 | mheath | Find a 200 year old dictionary and its going to say Colour, whereas Color is perfectly acceptable now. |
| 15:44.20 | fozzmoo | Oh dear. Do I have to pull my LInguistics buddy in here? |
| 15:44.27 | ^Migs^ | yeah, only retards spell it like "colour" and "honour" |
| 15:44.39 | elg | fozzmoo: please do |
| 15:44.44 | ^Migs^ | your linguistics buddy doesn't know as much as we do |
| 15:44.44 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 15:44.48 | elg | I can't stand armchair linguistics |
| 15:44.57 | fozzmoo | My buddy has a masters in it. |
| 15:45.02 | ^Migs^ | how quaint |
| 15:45.06 | mheath | Such eloquently worded phrases as "But for the price of just spring semester just take the price of where you would like to live and if you would a meal plan that too and divide them by two. That is how much you will pay for srping." |
| 15:45.12 | elg | "the ever changing state of language" is no excuse for misspelling or bad grammar usage |
| 15:45.14 | mrpull | elg: what about trained linguists? |
| 15:45.24 | elg | i like trained linguists |
| 15:45.29 | ^Migs^ | holy crap |
| 15:45.29 | elg | they make great linguini |
| 15:45.31 | ^Migs^ | that's awful |
| 15:45.36 | ^Migs^ | I agree with elg |
| 15:45.53 | ^Migs^ | paste the rest into a pastebin, mheath |
| 15:45.56 | ^Migs^ | or link to it |
| 15:46.10 | fozzmoo | mheath: I find myself writing terrible verse like that if I am listening to something like a podcast while I'm composing e-mail. :) |
| 15:46.15 | mrpull | bonez41: something about their cunning ways? |
| 15:46.22 | [phoenyx] | it became 'color' and 'honor', etc. when Webster decided that Americans needed to have their one language and so he changed the spellings for his dictionary |
| 15:46.34 | [phoenyx] | s/one/own |
| 15:46.40 | bonez41 | mrpull, oh, indeed.....despite how trite so many of the lines...some are just perfect |
| 15:47.08 | mheath | ^Migs^, Its not bad. Thats the worst bit...the only too other really bad sentences are "Yes you can come and live with us for the Spring that is not problem." |
| 15:47.15 | ^Migs^ | right, [phoenyx]. Now only retards spell it the other way. |
| 15:47.23 | elg | bonez41: you're right. I can't figure out why GW refuses to take the five minutes to learn how to say nuclear correctly |
| 15:47.23 | [phoenyx] | lol |
| 15:47.28 | mheath | And "Where you would like to live it where you can live." |
| 15:47.28 | [phoenyx] | you mean the english? |
| 15:47.35 | elg | or do his aides really not tell him he's pronouncing it wrong? |
| 15:47.45 | ^Migs^ | do they outsource their writing department to India or something? |
| 15:47.56 | bonez41 | elg, they are likely afraid of crossing him...... |
| 15:47.58 | ^Migs^ | I rest my case, [phoenyx] |
| 15:47.59 | elg | Indians write better |
| 15:48.02 | mrpull | heh... moneypenny's real name is samantha bond? |
| 15:48.05 | fozzmoo | "Sir, that will be forty five dollours." |
| 15:48.19 | fozzmoo | Or is that dolleurs? :) |
| 15:48.34 | fozzmoo | I declare it perfectly valid grammer because I said so. |
| 15:48.42 | elg | bonez41: surely he has _someone_ in charge of public speaking whose job it is to do things like write speaches and oh, correct chronic mispronunciations |
| 15:48.48 | ^Migs^ | I usually coin a new word a week. |
| 15:48.55 | bonez41 | my problem is in having attended private school where they pounded correct spelling and pronunciation and diction into us all with a huge hydraulic hammer.....it made us all intolerable when reading the printed word or listening to presidential speeches |
| 15:48.56 | ^Migs^ | Just because it's not in the dictionary, doesn't mean it's not a valid word. |
| 15:48.56 | mheath | ^Migs^, Remember, "If you look at [the] application, [you will] see that you [can] just check which place you want to live and that is where you will live." |
| 15:49.10 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 15:49.11 | elg | at the least he should dictate that dictionaries change the spelling to nucular |
| 15:49.12 | fozzmoo | ^Migs^: :) One of my recent creations: possidoable. |
| 15:49.36 | bonez41 | elg, I think the speak and language folks at the white house have simply resigned to the fact that he likes to say nu cu lar instead of nu cle ar.... |
| 15:49.38 | ^Migs^ | as long as you put "quotes" around the word you're creating, and make it clear what it means, either implicitly or explicitly, you're fine |
| 15:49.46 | ^Migs^ | and "possidoable" is a great word! |
| 15:49.56 | mheath | ^Migs^, See, Weber State University is leaving a lot lacking in their public relations department. |
| 15:50.05 | [phoenyx] | a perfectly cromulent word |
| 15:50.10 | fozzmoo | leaving a lot lacking? |
| 15:50.17 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 15:50.29 | atoponce | that's an understatement! |
| 15:50.43 | atoponce | wsu is lacking |
| 15:50.45 | mheath | atoponce, look at my quotes from my e-mail I got in reply from the housing department. |
| 15:50.46 | ^Migs^ | I feel it embiggens the verbosical breadth |
| 15:51.09 | fozzmoo | I'm feeling embiggened right now! |
| 15:51.19 | ^Migs^ | I'm always embiggened. |
| 15:51.32 | fozzmoo | Your head is embiggened. |
| 15:51.38 | mheath | I also am embiggened! My Verbosical breadth is embiggened! |
| 15:51.42 | fozzmoo | hee hee. |
| 15:51.44 | mheath | ;-P |
| 15:51.51 | bonez41 | is embiggended made big or does it describe an exiting bigg end? |
| 15:52.08 | atoponce | wsu's #1 problem? communication |
| 15:52.11 | ^Migs^ | Your mom is embiggened |
| 15:52.21 | bonez41 | ^Migs^, I think you want Paso Doble instead.... |
| 15:52.42 | atoponce | what's that you say? communicatiotn between faculty and students? whatever in the world for? |
| 15:53.03 | bonez41 | ^Migs^, dissin my momma, eh? :) |
| 15:53.32 | mheath | The UoU's reply: "Actually, if you are going to come for the Spring, there is not a waiting list. Our applications for the spring will be available in mid-October. You will just log on to Housing U then and choose a room for the spring." |
| 15:53.41 | mheath | No missing words. No odd placement of words. |
| 15:53.49 | mheath | Normal communication. It's amazing. |
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| 15:54.01 | mheath | But an art that Weber States University is missing, apparently. |
| 15:54.38 | atoponce | no it's not. they spent millions on the new art building that just *had* to be built |
| 15:54.41 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 15:55.14 | mheath | UoU also managed to properly quote my original message, wereas WSU's person put triple quote marks on the first couple of lines and displayed the rest inline.. |
| 15:55.15 | atoponce | and now millions (around 11) are going into renovating the shepherd union building |
| 15:55.39 | atoponce | forget making the 4'6" stalls in the mens room taller! |
| 15:55.45 | mheath | erm, does the shepherd union building need renovating? Every time I've been in there, it's seemed pretty nice. |
| 15:55.58 | atoponce | or cleaning out the lime from all the sinks |
| 15:56.13 | atoponce | or fixing cracked sidewalks and stairs |
| 15:56.19 | atoponce | or replacing railings |
| 15:56.30 | ^Migs^ | um |
| 15:56.34 | ^Migs^ | why not fix the CS building? |
| 15:56.44 | ^Migs^ | that building is old and falling apart |
| 15:56.51 | mheath | ^Migs^, Like, get a department head that doesn't refer to Solaris 9 as "Unix 9"? |
| 15:56.52 | ^Migs^ | plus, it could look 10x nicer |
| 15:56.58 | ^Migs^ | haha, who's the department head now? |
| 15:57.04 | atoponce | mheath: does it need it? no! are they doing it anyway! yes! well you pay for it? double yes!! |
| 15:57.12 | mheath | I don't know what his name was |
| 15:57.21 | mheath | I went to an IBM robocode competition thing when I Was in highschool |
| 15:57.22 | atoponce | greg anderson |
| 15:57.35 | ^Migs^ | greg anderson referred to it as Unix 9? I find that hard to believe. |
| 15:57.35 | mheath | They had some free old solaris boxes they were trying to pawn off on the schools |
| 15:57.45 | mheath | He kept calling it "Unix 9" |
| 15:57.47 | atoponce | he's actually the only ½ decent one there |
| 15:57.51 | ^Migs^ | it's good he's the department head |
| 15:57.52 | ^Migs^ | yeah, he is |
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| 15:58.23 | ^Migs^ | well, that's not true. Rob Hilton and Kirby McMaster are good, too |
| 15:58.32 | ^Migs^ | and I actually grew to like Ron Peterson after awhile |
| 15:58.38 | atoponce | never had either |
| 15:58.42 | atoponce | ron is a joke |
| 15:58.46 | mheath | Yep, Greg Anderson was the one. |
| 15:58.51 | mheath | "Unix 9". |
| 15:59.05 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 15:59.11 | ^Migs^ | whadda noob |
| 15:59.27 | atoponce | ? |
| 15:59.30 | mheath | I'm not saying he's not a great guy! Or that, when it comes to teaching the WSU CS curriculum, he doesn't know what he's talking about. |
| 15:59.42 | atoponce | ahh |
| 15:59.54 | atoponce | mheath: yeah he does |
| 15:59.54 | mheath | Just...I want a CS department with better overall knowledge. Better teachers. |
| 16:00.04 | ^Migs^ | I didn't like Hoggan or Capener that much |
| 16:00.19 | ^Migs^ | not that they didn't know the subject matter. They're just crappy teachers. |
| 16:00.31 | ^Migs^ | what happened to Capener? Did he retire? He's not listed on the faculty list |
| 16:00.43 | atoponce | not sure |
| 16:01.09 | ^Migs^ | Dona's not the advisor anymore either? |
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| 16:01.18 | mheath | atoponce, Greg Anderson's published works are almost entirely about Visual Basic. |
| 16:01.21 | atoponce | no, thank heavens |
| 16:01.36 | atoponce | mheath: yeah. he's bought and paid for |
| 16:01.54 | ^Migs^ | nothing wrong with that. Many people use Visual Basic |
| 16:01.54 | atoponce | but he knows his stuff, and he's a great teacher and even better dept chair |
| 16:02.20 | atoponce | the previous dept chair was a waste of space |
| 16:02.22 | ^Migs^ | that's good to know |
| 16:02.31 | ^Migs^ | yeah, he was |
| 16:02.32 | atoponce | and even worse as a teacher |
| 16:02.44 | ^Migs^ | yet everyone managed to get As in his class. :) |
| 16:02.56 | atoponce | but i don't like the new network admin |
| 16:03.02 | atoponce | i miss nate |
| 16:03.06 | ^Migs^ | who's the new admin? |
| 16:03.12 | atoponce | patrick beck |
| 16:03.31 | ^Migs^ | hmm, used to work at ARUP |
| 16:03.52 | atoponce | nate younger was great. patrick is over protective and anal |
| 16:04.13 | ^Migs^ | wtf is up with those completely irrelevant ramblings on his current field of study? http://www.weber.edu/CS/Beck_Patrick.html |
| 16:04.43 | atoponce | i acidentally ran 'sudo' on the server, and i got a series of nasty emails from him, rather than asking why i ran it |
| 16:04.53 | atoponce | i thought i was on my home server |
| 16:05.13 | mheath | "I like the fact that computers are not like people. If you tell a computer to do something, it does it." |
| 16:05.25 | mheath | Does this guy live in his mothers basement? |
| 16:05.50 | mheath | (Yes, I live in my Dad's basement...I'm 17 and recovering from an injury) |
| 16:06.07 | ^Migs^ | <mheath> (Yes, I live in my Dad's basement...I'm 17 and recovering from an injury) |
| 16:06.08 | ^Migs^ | ??? |
| 16:06.11 | ^Migs^ | What was the point of that? |
| 16:07.02 | mheath | To avoid people calling me a hypocrite. |
| 16:07.27 | mheath | Hmm, is "Brian Rague" any good at WSU? |
| 16:07.35 | ^Migs^ | yeah, who's this Brian Rague guy? |
| 16:07.39 | ^Migs^ | I don't remember him |
| 16:07.45 | ^Migs^ | mheath: You're still a minor. |
| 16:07.51 | mheath | Hes a graduate of MIT. |
| 16:08.21 | mheath | ^Migs^, I'm also a veteran of the United States Marine Corps. And I feel like crap that, despite numerous attempts to leave and be independent, I'm still stuck at home. |
| 16:08.21 | atoponce | he's great, but he teaches a little above the average iq of the class |
| 16:08.22 | ^Migs^ | and who's Nicole Anderson? |
| 16:08.34 | ^Migs^ | what's wrong with living with your parents, anyway? |
| 16:08.41 | ^Migs^ | it's a wise move financially |
| 16:08.57 | atoponce | she's great. one of the best. used to work at hp writing printer drivers |
| 16:09.00 | mheath | ^Migs^, You sound like my dad, trying to prevent me from going to the UoU because I'd have to live on campus. |
| 16:09.36 | ^Migs^ | WSU > UofU |
| 16:09.59 | atoponce | slcc > wsu |
| 16:10.00 | mheath | Hah. |
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| 16:10.55 | atoponce | heck, * > wsu |
| 16:11.20 | mheath | BTW, can anyone recommend a local school with a vetrinary tech program? |
| 16:11.27 | elg | awesome. I've always wanted cybernetic implants |
| 16:11.30 | mheath | My sister commented that she might want to go into such a program |
| 16:11.35 | elg | gonna be a vet now? |
| 16:11.45 | elg | jsmith: I just sat down to work. that's your cue |
| 16:11.53 | ^Migs^ | this would be a good IT program: http://www.wgu.edu/index.asp |
| 16:12.01 | ^Migs^ | http://www.wgu.edu/online_it_degrees/programs.asp |
| 16:12.12 | elg | mheath: what happened to northface? |
| 16:12.26 | elg | er, neumont I guess they go by now |
| 16:12.34 | mheath | elg, they've went way, way, way downhill since I last looked at them |
| 16:12.43 | mheath | They were always advertising in my programming class at my highschool |
| 16:12.46 | ^Migs^ | since it's competency-based (and you can earn certifications as you go) if you already know your stuff, you can finish the degree in half the time and for half the cost of a regular degree, but still get the hands-on training you need |
| 16:12.52 | atoponce | mheath: were they ever on a hill? |
| 16:12.55 | mheath | They've lost like half their endorsements....and they're way expensive. |
| 16:13.05 | elg | pity. |
| 16:13.12 | elg | they were looking good back when |
| 16:13.26 | mheath | atoponce, When they first opened, they received MASSIVE ammounts of funding from IBM and Microsoft. They were supposed to be a huge success - they IBM and Microsoft funded western equiv. of MIT. |
| 16:13.34 | ^Migs^ | that's one thing I didn't like about regular school. Going to class with a bunch of idiot undergrads, having dumb professors who would just sit there and ramble and confuse the heck out of everone |
| 16:13.34 | mheath | *the |
| 16:14.07 | mheath | ^Migs^, No, This looks like a good CS program: http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ |
| 16:14.08 | findlay-w | ~destroy windows |
| 16:14.10 | ibot | no |
| 16:14.13 | mheath | haha |
| 16:14.16 | ^Migs^ | yeah, but can you afford it? |
| 16:14.21 | findlay-w | ibot: do it! |
| 16:14.23 | ibot | ACTION does it!. |
| 16:14.28 | sontek | neumont is still around, They actually have a pretty decent curriculum |
| 16:14.33 | mheath | ^Migs^, If I could get _accepted_ there, I'd find a way to afford it =P |
| 16:14.42 | ^Migs^ | I wouldn't want to get accepted there |
| 16:14.43 | atoponce | mheath: i've been there, although never enrolled, and a friend of mine is a recruiter. they are also bought and paid for, and are really just stephens-henneger with a CS emphasis |
| 16:14.47 | ^Migs^ | not my kind of curriculum |
| 16:14.54 | findlay-w | ~lart windows |
| 16:15.08 | \me | ~lart findlay-w |
| 16:15.18 | atoponce | it software development with arrogance |
| 16:15.20 | findlay-w | hey |
| 16:15.23 | atoponce | s/it/it's/ |
| 16:15.26 | mheath | atoponce, Yeah. How long has your friend been a recruiter? I heard they kept firing them and getting new ones, because they could never keep up wtih the enrollment quotas. |
| 16:15.34 | findlay-w | there's no good bots around when you need them |
| 16:15.44 | atoponce | since day 1 |
| 16:15.52 | \me | #perl needs an ibot |
| 16:16.01 | mheath | Isn't there a perlbot or something? |
| 16:16.02 | mheath | ~ibot |
| 16:16.03 | ibot | well, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 16:16.19 | mheath | ~perlbot |
| 16:16.21 | ibot | An IRC bot in Perl written with simplicity in mind. URL: http://www.pas.rochester.edu/~burke/perlbot/ |
| 16:16.24 | findlay-w | and sadly, ibot is just really a false sense of dissipation |
| 16:16.28 | atoponce | they have fired a lot of teachers |
| 16:16.40 | atoponce | www.jasonbunting.com was one of them |
| 16:16.50 | atoponce | he sucked though |
| 16:17.17 | \me | mheath: yes - I like ibot better though |
| 16:17.17 | mheath | ~lart ibоt |
| 16:17.47 | mheath | hehe, I alone have mastered the method getting ibot to lart himself :) |
| 16:18.09 | findlay-w | I'll give somebody some real money to solve all of my problems for me |
| 16:18.14 | findlay-w | like $5 |
| 16:18.20 | findlay-w | anybody? |
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| 16:18.33 | elg | give me your $5 and all your problems will solve themselves |
| 16:18.43 | \me | sweet!: s/(??{substr($_,105,1)})/$1\n/g |
| 16:18.44 | mheath | findlay: whats the point? new problems will just creep up by lunchtime tomorrow. |
| 16:18.57 | \me | and (?{}) |
| 16:19.01 | elg | the point is I'm $5 richer |
| 16:19.10 | mheath | hmmm, I need to set a mouse trap |
| 16:19.17 | findlay-w | and now I'm problem deficient |
| 16:19.34 | elg | is that a problem? |
| 16:19.45 | elg | just follow the scurrying |
| 16:19.53 | TimRiker | ~dict dissipation |
| 16:20.10 | atoponce | he spoke! |
| 16:20.16 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 16:20.18 | TimRiker | ~lart atoponce |
| 16:20.26 | TimRiker | ~bzfrag atoponce |
| 16:20.29 | ibot | ACTION makes atoponce feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 16:20.31 | ^Migs^ | wtf, I don't get any prompts when SuSE 10.1 boots up. Invalid screen resolution it seems like. |
| 16:20.47 | atoponce | ~whaleslap TimRiker |
| 16:20.49 | ibot | ACTION beats TimRiker upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 16:20.54 | TimRiker | ~whaleblock |
| 16:21.00 | TimRiker | aw.... |
| 16:21.11 | atoponce | for teh win! ;) |
| 16:21.30 | TimRiker | ~whaleblock atoponce |
| 16:21.32 | ibot | ACTION shields atoponce with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
| 16:21.53 | TimRiker | ah well. guess that didn't do what I expected. :) |
| 16:21.56 | elg | any iTunes freaks in here? |
| 16:22.18 | elg | I want to get rid of all the stupid long-gone podcasts in its lib |
| 16:22.22 | atoponce | s/ollywaf/willy/ ? |
| 16:22.25 | elg | as in the files are gone |
| 16:22.36 | elg | and itunes won't clean up its library |
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| 16:23.52 | mheath | atoponce, 'huger' ollywag is a bigger whale than Hugh. |
| 16:24.38 | Jayce^ | elg, isn't that part of the preferences? an option for it to delete those? |
| 16:24.50 | elg | to delete podcasts it does, yes |
| 16:24.57 | elg | but I don't use iTunes to download podcasts |
| 16:25.00 | elg | I use juice |
| 16:25.03 | elg | which is marginally better |
| 16:25.05 | atoponce | s/ollywag/flipper/ |
| 16:25.08 | elg | -lart juice |
| 16:26.39 | elg | this isn't just podcasts anyway. sometimes I copy some music over and listen to it for awhile, then delete it from the laptop |
| 16:26.48 | elg | and itunes carries over the library entries |
| 16:27.35 | mheath | atoponce, that just reminds me of the censored TV copy of The Matrix |
| 16:27.53 | mheath | rather than saying "How about I show you the finger", it says "How about I show you the flipper" (and then doesn't show his hand) |
| 16:29.16 | atoponce | ~flipper mheath |
| 16:29.26 | findlay-w | ~flip |
| 16:29.28 | ibot | Page-flipper for previewing TIFF sequence animations.. URL: http://www.reptilelabour.com/. FLIP |
| 16:29.33 | findlay-w | ~flop |
| 16:29.34 | ibot | it has been said that flop is floating point operation |
| 16:29.37 | findlay-w | ~flap |
| 16:29.38 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, flap is vt. 1. To unload a DECtape (so it goes flap, flap, flap...). Old-time hackers at MIT tell of the days when the disk was device 0 and microtapes were 1, 2,... and attempting to flap device 0 would instead start a motor banging inside a cabinet near the disk. 2. By extension, to unload any magnetic tape. See also macrotape. ... |
| 16:29.58 | findlay-w | ibot sure carries around a lot of ecclectic cruft |
| 16:30.07 | atoponce | no ~flep, ~flyp and ~flup? |
| 16:30.14 | findlay-w | that's what makes him so unique |
| 16:30.25 | elg | not really |
| 16:30.28 | elg | it's just a jargon file plugin |
| 16:30.34 | findlay-w | ): |
| 16:30.45 | elg | ~findlay |
| 16:30.47 | ibot | from memory, findlay is wanting a SuSE-10.0 rock, or ibot is wierd, or asking too much of you, or crazy |
| 16:30.54 | elg | that's what makes ibot unique |
| 16:31.10 | findlay-w | ibot thinks I'm his friend |
| 16:31.22 | findlay-w | we've been through too much together otherwise |
| 16:31.24 | mheath | ~friends |
| 16:31.25 | ibot | friends are people to smoke weed with |
| 16:31.34 | findlay-w | heh |
| 16:31.36 | findlay-w | whatever |
| 16:31.38 | mheath | findlay-w, does he now? |
| 16:31.54 | findlay-w | ~smoke mheath |
| 16:31.55 | ibot | ACTION smokes mheath |
| 16:32.03 | findlay-w | so there |
| 16:32.10 | atoponce | s/weed/shrooms/ |
| 16:32.10 | mheath | ~pass mheath |
| 16:33.20 | elg | * jsmith goes to lunch |
| 16:39.12 | harleypig | I'm looking for a subversion hosting solution that will provide me with a Trac setup and the ability to point a subdomain to my account. Anyone know of a service that does this? |
| 16:39.35 | elg | i'll do it for a price |
| 16:39.52 | harleypig | Also, having codestriker setup would be a plus |
| 16:40.42 | \me | having a counterstrike setup is also a plus |
| 16:41.04 | Jayce^ | uhm, harleypig, just put in a box here |
| 16:41.08 | harleypig | elg: :] Well, if I did that then I might as well put it on my server ... I'm looking for a separate location |
| 16:41.31 | tensai | sorry to be late. here's why GW speaks so poorly. http://www.otisproductions.com/Harlan_McCraney/harlan.html |
| 16:41.37 | harleypig | Jayce^: I still don't have the money or the time to purchase and put a box together. |
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| 16:44.23 | \me | GW = George Washington? |
| 16:47.12 | mheath | \me, George W. [Bush] |
| 16:47.26 | elg | tensai: thanks :) |
| 16:47.41 | findlay-w | harleypig: maybe think outside the box? |
| 16:47.53 | findlay-w | so invert the box |
| 16:47.59 | findlay-w | 1/[box] |
| 16:48.00 | \me | I thought he was called dubya |
| 16:48.05 | findlay-w | dub |
| 16:48.05 | harleypig | eh? |
| 16:48.12 | \me | or just W |
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| 16:51.32 | tensai | dub huh? |
| 16:51.52 | mheath | Dub, Yah. |
| 16:54.03 | findlay-w | I bet the computer lives in a universe in inverse mode where it thinks things that really are outside the box are inside. After all it is a topological transformation that is perfectly normal and legal |
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| 16:56.32 | harleypig | Put the quantum mechanics book and down and step back. |
| 16:57.00 | findlay-w | no way, I'm just getting into it |
| 16:57.01 | findlay-w | heh |
| 16:57.12 | harleypig | or out of it |
| 16:57.29 | harleypig | perception is all in our heads |
| 16:58.30 | findlay-w | so I have a XP sp2 box that I've turned "winders firewall" completely "off" whatever that means, yet when I portmap the port I'm interested in it says it's closed. What did I do wrong? |
| 16:58.50 | tensai | you're sure the daemon is listening? |
| 16:58.57 | tensai | try netstat |
| 16:59.57 | tensai | kids are the embodiment of entropy |
| 17:02.40 | mheath | kids are wonderful.. |
| 17:02.45 | mheath | When they belong to someone else. |
| 17:06.31 | findlay-w | tensai: how do I run netstat on a windows box? |
| 17:06.51 | tensai | findlay-w: I forget the exact syntax. try netstat /? |
| 17:07.04 | findlay-w | ok |
| 17:07.21 | mheath | Ew, I forgot about nasty /? switches |
| 17:07.31 | mheath | I think a mouse died inside the wall of my room. |
| 17:07.43 | elg | before or after the scurrying? |
| 17:08.00 | mheath | Somewhat after, I imagine. |
| 17:09.10 | tensai | did this mouse enter of his own accord or did you go all Cask of Amontillado on him? |
| 17:09.10 | harleypig | someone curried a mouse? |
| 17:10.16 | elg | mheath: Wall -> Mouse -> Smell |
| 17:11.23 | ^Migs^ | I hate mice |
| 17:11.32 | ^Migs^ | I have a bunch of them in my house, and they're taking dumps everywhere |
| 17:12.01 | elg | where's levi_home when you need him |
| 17:12.09 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 17:12.11 | levi | Right here. |
| 17:12.24 | levi | Well, not at home. |
| 17:12.26 | mheath | seriously, though, anyone have any idea on how I could get rid of the smell? |
| 17:12.32 | ^Migs^ | get the mouse out |
| 17:12.34 | mheath | Air freshener the only option, really? |
| 17:12.36 | elg | get rid of the mouse |
| 17:12.42 | elg | then air out the room |
| 17:12.45 | tensai | my favorite Elvis song. http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/tmp/Elvis%20Presley%20-%20Such%20A%20Night.mp3 |
| 17:12.46 | mheath | elg, it could be anywhere in the wall. |
| 17:12.52 | elg | indeed |
| 17:13.01 | elg | buy an amphibious pirhana |
| 17:13.01 | ^Migs^ | send in a tiny robot with a camera attached |
| 17:13.10 | elg | ~spell pirahna |
| 17:13.12 | emcnabb | knock the wall down |
| 17:13.16 | ^Migs^ | maybe it's soiled underwear |
| 17:13.22 | ^Migs^ | it's piranha |
| 17:13.24 | ^Migs^ | duh |
| 17:13.33 | elg | in the wall? |
| 17:13.36 | elg | how did that happen? |
| 17:13.39 | mheath | my soiled underwear doesn't smell like particularly nasty sourkraut. |
| 17:13.42 | emcnabb | elg: you should be as smart as ^Migs^ |
| 17:13.54 | elg | I can't, sorry. I'm bound by dictionaries |
| 17:13.55 | ^Migs^ | ~spell sauerkraut |
| 17:14.01 | emcnabb | maybe you have sourkraut in your wall |
| 17:14.11 | mheath | ^Migs^, I speak English, sorry. |
| 17:14.16 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 17:14.16 | ^Migs^ | I bet it does after you eat sauerkraut |
| 17:14.21 | tensai | do you have sauerkrauted underwear in the wall? |
| 17:14.31 | mheath | Hmmm. Maybe. |
| 17:14.35 | emcnabb | tensai: the mouse snuck it in |
| 17:14.39 | elg | do you have a german roommate? |
| 17:15.23 | ^Migs^ | the best way to get rid of mice is with mousetraps, not poison traps |
| 17:15.23 | tensai | did the mouse leave you any sausages in his will? |
| 17:15.57 | ^Migs^ | the mice in my house are breeding too. The whole house is stinky. |
| 17:15.57 | elg | it's hard to get rid of a dead mouse with a mousetrap, though |
| 17:16.05 | elg | I suppose it can be done, but it takes active effort |
| 17:16.23 | levi | But a poison trap could give you a dead mouse in an unknown location. |
| 17:17.03 | elg | do you have a cat? can the cat fit in the wall? |
| 17:17.28 | tensai | time to get a new house, I'm afraid |
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| 17:18.06 | ^Migs^ | I say we head over to mheath with sledge hammers and have a house-wrecking party |
| 17:18.16 | ^Migs^ | s/mheath/mheath's house |
| 17:18.19 | ^Migs^ | s/mheath/mheath's house/ |
| 17:18.25 | ^Migs^ | meh |
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| 17:19.58 | harleypig | http://blip.tv/file/74348 |
| 17:20.00 | harleypig | sfw |
| 17:26.12 | findlay-w | Keighvin: I set up a DSN per the instructions you sent me yesterday but it looks like odbc isn't listening on port 8888 |
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| 17:26.39 | findlay-w | about it |
| 17:26.48 | nick125- | about what? |
| 17:27.12 | findlay-w | it |
| 17:27.36 | nick125- | "it"? |
| 17:28.05 | findlay-w | nick125-: it involves winders |
| 17:29.22 | findlay-w | sure scared him |
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| 17:42.33 | Keighvin | findlay-w: Did you set up a machine or system DSN, or what? |
| 17:42.42 | Keighvin | Are you accessing it from a separate box? |
| 17:43.15 | findlay-w | system DSN, and yes |
| 17:44.24 | findlay-w | man doing math homework all night while listening to Bruckner's symphonies will do interesting things to your brain |
| 17:45.26 | elg | yes, but is it the math or the bruckner that does it? |
| 17:45.41 | findlay-w | is there a seperate mechanism to make it listen on the network? I haven't dug through the registry yet |
| 17:45.52 | findlay-w | elg: both together |
| 17:46.00 | Keighvin | findlay-w: None of it is as deep as a registry change. |
| 17:48.28 | Keighvin | Although, given that you're on XP SP2, there's a good chance you'll need to open it in the firewall. |
| 17:50.45 | findlay-w | firewall is "off" |
| 17:52.48 | Keighvin | How are you testing whether or not it's listening on that port? |
| 17:53.27 | findlay-w | I've been running netstat on the windows box |
| 17:53.34 | findlay-w | and port scaning it from the linux box |
| 17:53.57 | Keighvin | Dumb question, but have you actually tried connecting to it from perl? |
| 17:54.02 | findlay-w | yes |
| 17:54.34 | findlay-w | well, not yet. I'm getting another error on the unixODBC side that I'm also working on |
| 17:56.36 | Keighvin | You shouldn't have to set up any kind of ODBC on the unix side - not unless you're exporting data services from there as well. |
| 17:58.41 | findlay-w | but I thought DBD::ODBC needed either iODBC or unixODBC in order to talk to the windows ODBC |
| 17:59.26 | findlay-w | but perhaps you're right |
| 18:03.18 | levi | Geez, Steve Yegge is verbose. |
| 18:05.42 | mrpull | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5388182.stm |
| 18:07.28 | mrpull | "Society is important because of Ubuntu." Bill Clinton |
| 18:07.34 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I know |
| 18:07.45 | ^Migs^ | his article seemed to be more rambling than anything of substance |
| 18:07.55 | ^Migs^ | or his blog post, rather |
| 18:08.03 | ^Migs^ | whatever those bloggers call them |
| 18:08.11 | Keighvin | findlay-w: ODBC is only needed to export. |
| 18:09.08 | levi | It certainly reinforces the view that it would be cool to work at Google, though. |
| 18:09.33 | ^Migs^ | yeah, no kidding. Being able to work on whatever you want? wtf? |
| 18:09.52 | ^Migs^ | just switching development teams when you feel like it |
| 18:09.56 | ^Migs^ | and actually being ENCOURAGED to do so? |
| 18:10.17 | ^Migs^ | zomgomgomgomgomgmomgz |
| 18:11.17 | findlay-w | Keighvin: so you're saying I can connect to the database like DBI->connect('dbi:ODBC:<something>');? |
| 18:18.33 | Keighvin | Assuming that you have modules for both DBI and DBD::ODBC, yes. |
| 18:19.19 | findlay-w | but what goes in the <something> part? server:port:DSN or what? |
| 18:19.44 | Keighvin | Yes, you will need a DSN string. |
| 18:20.20 | findlay-w | but how does DBI know where to find it if I don't tell it the computer where it lurks? |
| 18:20.59 | Keighvin | The DSN string is specifically for the remote ODBC driver to use in identifying its source. |
| 18:22.38 | findlay-w | where can I learn about what a properly formed DSN looks like? |
| 18:23.06 | Keighvin | Google. |
| 18:23.28 | Keighvin | perl odbc dbi microsoft access |
| 18:24.17 | findlay-w | oh, right. I forgot |
| 18:24.32 | findlay-w | there was something useful in the DBD::ODBC pod (: |
| 18:24.41 | findlay-w | thanks Keighvin |
| 18:25.41 | Keighvin | Careful though, many of those will be specific to connecting to Windows from Windows |
| 18:44.47 | elg | what's a halfop? |
| 18:45.13 | Tene | +h |
| 18:45.25 | Tene | most op powers, but can't affect +o |
| 18:45.29 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
| 18:45.45 | *** mode/#utah [-o Jayce^] by elg |
| 18:45.57 | elg | hmm, looks like freenode doesn't do that |
| 18:46.27 | Tene | huh |
| 19:00.29 | mheath | I'm happy. My application to UoU is in the mail, and I found out that there _is_ housing available there for the spring semester :) |
| 19:00.44 | levi | Nice. |
| 19:01.12 | mheath | The bad news is, my dad keeps trying to talk me out of it. |
| 19:01.22 | mheath | Wants me to live at home and go to Weber State to save money. |
| 19:01.46 | levi | Saving money is a good thing, too. |
| 19:02.17 | mheath | I know it is. I'm not looking to spend money worthlessly - I'm just embarking on a traditional college experience. |
| 19:02.28 | mheath | Cheaper than many peoples college, infact, because I'm going in-state. |
| 19:02.30 | tensai | either one would be a perfectly reasonable course to take. there's definitely something of value in moving out of the house. |
| 19:03.00 | mheath | Yeah. I really do have a desire to be out and on my own. |
| 19:03.17 | mheath | I made one big attempt to get independent, and that failed in a big way. |
| 19:03.57 | tensai | just remember, Babe Ruth struck out more times than he hit home runs |
| 19:04.41 | ^Migs^ | WGU is even cheaper |
| 19:05.18 | ^Migs^ | what are you going to study at the U of U? |
| 19:05.35 | tensai | besides girls ;) |
| 19:06.12 | mheath | ^Migs^, CS probably. |
| 19:06.43 | maquis | :( |
| 19:06.46 | ^Migs^ | how boring |
| 19:07.12 | ^Migs^ | someone needs to invent an EXTREME CS field |
| 19:07.17 | ^Migs^ | like, CS at terminal velocity |
| 19:07.44 | graphyx | Can you write a perl script to deploy your parachute after being droped from a plane at 10,000 ft altitude??? |
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| 19:07.55 | Jayce^ | that's what every startup claims to provide ^Migs^ |
| 19:07.58 | graphyx | With NO API help whatsoever!!! |
| 19:08.14 | ^Migs^ | OMG |
| 19:08.20 | ^Migs^ | yeah! |
| 19:11.04 | ^Migs^ | the CS department would need lots of flashy gizmos and blinking lights |
| 19:11.11 | ^Migs^ | cuz that would be l33t |
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| 19:22.00 | elg | ~nurse maquis |
| 19:24.56 | herlo | ~soup maquis |
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| 19:27.18 | elg | ~blinkenlights |
| 19:27.31 | elg | maquis: it's official, ibot doesn't care for you |
| 19:27.58 | levi | -lart ibot |
| 19:28.19 | levi | maquis: brac will stick up for you, though. |
| 19:29.41 | mheath | Maybe _today_ I'll get a paycheck. |
| 19:29.56 | mheath | Maybe _today_ pigs will fly. |
| 19:30.34 | elg | no, they're scheduled for tomorrow |
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| 19:51.04 | mheath | Hmmm. UoU DOES have campus wireless access :) |
| 19:51.13 | mheath | It will be ubiquitous by Fall 2008 too |
| 19:53.49 | sontek | The local coffee shop has wireless, its not that special ;) |
| 19:54.14 | sontek | and neumont university has wireless throughout their campus and gives laptops to all their students. Doesn't say anything about the education :D |
| 19:55.49 | mheath | sontek, thats because the Neumont University campus is roughly the size of my house. |
| 19:56.07 | sontek | Your house is a 3 story office building? :P |
| 19:56.25 | mheath | Erm....Would you believe me if I said yes? |
| 19:56.53 | sontek | I would but then it wouldn't make any sense of why your dad was trying to save money =) |
| 19:57.53 | mheath | mmm, I want to get linux on my nintendo ds |
| 19:57.59 | mheath | use it as a nice little wireless terminal |
| 19:58.15 | mheath | costs about 40 to get all the hardware needed to do it |
| 19:59.24 | levi | Can you hook a keyboard up to a Nintendo DS? |
| 19:59.40 | mheath | levi: DS Linux makes a keyboard on the touchscreen portion of the screen |
| 20:00.34 | graphyx | ~dict salle |
| 20:00.38 | levi | That is, alas, only a rough approximation of a keyboard. |
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| 20:01.54 | mheath | levi: It's fully functional, including support for keystroke combinations, apparently. |
| 20:02.21 | macnewbold | yeah, but my fingers aren't small enough to do all that on the touchscreen of a nintendo DS |
| 20:02.43 | mheath | macnewbold, theres a stylus =P |
| 20:03.05 | macnewbold | then how do I do keystroke combos with only one "finger"? |
| 20:03.31 | macnewbold | in other words, it's basically like the "keyboard" on a PDA |
| 20:03.33 | mheath | macnewbold, I think it probably has delays before it forgets that you pressed down ctrl |
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| 20:11.47 | ^Migs^ | GREETINGS TACOJOCKEY! |
| 20:17.54 | mheath | oh, wow... |
| 20:19.20 | mheath | http://static.flickr.com/98/246291630_f3be334e28_o.png |
| 20:24.49 | graphyx | mheath: Whats so special about that? |
| 20:24.59 | levi | Nothing that physically fits on a Nintendo DS would be anything more than a rough approximation of a keyboard, in my book. |
| 20:25.28 | levi | Touch typing takes long enough as it is. |
| 20:25.57 | mheath | graphyx, the GTK patch that allows menubars to be at the top of the screen like OS X. |
| 20:26.22 | graphyx | mheath: Oh I thought you were surprised about the website or something. |
| 20:26.42 | mheath | levi: Theres a limited keyboard (for the builtin pictochat) on the DS, infact. Its quite nice... |
| 20:26.51 | mheath | two languages, full ASCII character set.. |
| 20:27.02 | levi | mheath: You aren't understanding what I'm saying, apparently. |
| 20:27.10 | levi | But the gtk with the menubar on top is cool. |
| 20:27.15 | elg | I thought he just liked Celine Dion |
| 20:27.26 | levi | A few more years, and Gnome may actually be as usable as OS X. |
| 20:27.39 | mheath | I'm about to give kubuntu a try |
| 20:27.48 | mheath | Apparently KDE has had something similar to that built in for a while |
| 20:27.53 | mheath | (menubars at the top of the screen |
| 20:27.59 | elg | i don't mind menu bar at the top, but it does complicate sloppy focus |
| 20:28.24 | levi | elg: It does; I don't use sloppy focus much anymore, though. |
| 20:28.33 | TacoJockey | Hi ^Migs^ |
| 20:28.36 | TacoJockey | It's me linuxalien |
| 20:28.36 | TacoJockey | Gotta relogin |
| 20:28.50 | levi | Since I do window switching with the keyboard so much more than with the mouse on OS X. |
| 20:28.57 | mheath | So, how about that /nick command, huh? |
| 20:29.02 | mheath | -.- |
| 20:29.31 | mheath | levi: Its limiting, yes, but I like the idea of a cheap solution for a simple pocketsized wireless terminal. |
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| 20:31.22 | mheath | levi: That also doubles as a fun little gaming platform |
| 20:31.41 | mheath | (Not serious gaming, but the DS is great for sitting and playing a classic game of Mario or tetris) |
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| 20:38.01 | levi | mheath: No, it's a fun little game platform that could also function as a totally emasculated terminal if you had no other means available to access your systems. |
| 20:39.59 | levi | I have both a treo and a Zaurus 5500, both of which have 'keyboards', and both of which are totally inadequate as terminals beyond the most simple interactions. Unless I happen to be bored out of my mind and have nothing better to do than type characters at a ridiculously low rate. |
| 20:43.29 | levi | Given the choice, I would probably play a game of tetris instead. |
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| 21:02.10 | ^Migs^ | there's an idiot here who wants me to give him the dinky little images we have of our schools on the web, so he can turn them into 8" x 10" prints. Great idea. I'd love to see him take the 160x100 72dpi pictures and do that. |
| 21:02.50 | ^Migs^ | seriously, how stupid are people? |
| 21:04.33 | graphyx | ^Migs^: Send it to him. |
| 21:04.39 | graphyx | Let him figure that out. |
| 21:04.53 | graphyx | Just had the email ready for when he asks.. Um.. do you have a bigger one that than? |
| 21:04.59 | ^Migs^ | no, I'm going to find someone to forward this to. |
| 21:05.06 | ^Migs^ | so it's not my problem anymore |
| 21:05.08 | elg | it's not at all obvious to anybody without experience in digital photography that that won't work |
| 21:05.30 | graphyx | Perhaps he is expecting you to send him the photo that the thumbnail came from. |
| 21:05.33 | elg | and it's even less obvious what good numbers are |
| 21:05.46 | graphyx | Since he may know that he can just get the picture off of the website each time he browses it.. |
| 21:05.56 | ^Migs^ | no, I explained to him exactly why this wasn't a good idea and why it wouldn't work for him, and his response was, "Send me the pictures and I'll see what I can do" |
| 21:05.56 | graphyx | Ok elg.. got one for you. |
| 21:06.04 | elg | if he has any experience in blowing up photos it's probably with analog technology, where a little negative can give you a decent blowup |
| 21:06.05 | graphyx | Next number in the sequence. 1,3,11,67 |
| 21:06.22 | ^Migs^ | more importantly, the guy who's asking me is the one who SHOULD have the large-scale pictures in the first place |
| 21:06.29 | elg | graphyx: 11 |
| 21:06.38 | graphyx | 11? |
| 21:06.48 | graphyx | nope. |
| 21:06.50 | elg | ^Migs^: ah, then it's different. :) |
| 21:06.54 | elg | I thought it was a parent or something |
| 21:07.20 | elg | graphyx: and after that 3, then 1 |
| 21:07.26 | ^Migs^ | if it was a parent, I would've just ignored them. I don't like parents. |
| 21:07.35 | elg | I hate those questions. they're so stupid. the answer is "whatever I want it to be" |
| 21:07.43 | elg | or whatever you want it to be |
| 21:07.50 | ^Migs^ | well, I wouldn't have ignored it. I would've ignored them for a few days, then probably forwarded it to someone else |
| 21:07.50 | graphyx | he... |
| 21:08.41 | ^Migs^ | yeah, no kidding |
| 21:09.27 | ^Migs^ | is it 535? |
| 21:09.40 | ^Migs^ | the next number in the sequence, graphyx |
| 21:09.42 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 21:09.44 | elg | he's gone. but I say sure |
| 21:09.46 | elg | why not? |
| 21:09.47 | ^Migs^ | oh |
| 21:10.23 | ^Migs^ | well, I thought that 1 * 2 + 1 = 3. Then 3 * 4 - 1 = 11. Then 11 * 6 + 1 = 67. Then 67 * 8 - 1 = 535 |
| 21:10.31 | ^Migs^ | so you increment the multiplier by 2, then alternate the plus and minus |
| 21:10.44 | Keighvin | ~lart harleypig for HE KNOWS DARN WELL! |
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| 22:09.42 | harleypig | revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.6 && revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.6 |
| 22:09.57 | harleypig | woops |
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| 22:10.23 | harleypig | was wondering why the rebuild wasn't starting |
| 22:11.55 | Keighvin | ~mock harleypig |
| 22:11.59 | ibot | ACTION pulls harleypig's pants down and shows the world harleypig's pink spotted underwear |
| 22:12.15 | Keighvin | Ouch, now that was just painful imagery for the rest of us. |
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| 22:39.34 | atoponce | harleypig wears pink spotted underwear? o_0 |
| 22:40.13 | harleypig | no, day-glo orange thongs |
| 22:40.25 | TacoJockey | lol |
| 22:40.32 | findlay | this is good |
| 22:41.02 | findlay | neither me nor the isp can figure out why I can't get a static network configuartion |
| 22:41.19 | findlay | ~blame tomatoes |
| 22:41.20 | ibot | ACTION blames tomatoes (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 22:41.57 | harleypig | ~blame the tubes |
| 22:41.59 | ibot | ACTION blames the tubes (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 22:42.22 | harleypig | findlay: the tubes are cracked in your area ... you'll need to get them replaced |
| 22:42.37 | findlay | harleypig: that's way too expensive |
| 22:44.00 | harleypig | Well, you might try that stuff they use for tires. Just unplug your cable from both the computer and the wall, spray some of that stuff in the plugs and wait an hour ... you should be good to go for awhile. |
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| 23:00.11 | findlay | this is weired. I can see packets destined for my IP with tcpdump but I'mnot getting them |
| 23:01.02 | linuxalien | Weird. |
| 23:01.52 | macnewbold | findlay: firewall problem? |
| 23:02.04 | findlay | macnewbold: I turned it off |
| 23:02.23 | macnewbold | maybe that's why nothing's getting through :-D |
| 23:02.35 | macnewbold | just kidding |
| 23:03.05 | macnewbold | is it linux, or something else? |
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| 23:03.26 | Sargun | Who here votes bush, over al gore, and kerry? |
| 23:03.49 | macnewbold | you might try tcpdump without going into promiscuous mode, and see if you still see them |
| 23:04.10 | macnewbold | have you recently changed network topology or devices, anything that would invalidate your neighbor's arp caches? |
| 23:04.55 | findlay | I'm thinking the router has the wrong MAC for this NIC |
| 23:05.03 | macnewbold | ah, that could be the problem |
| 23:05.10 | findlay | yeah |
| 23:05.25 | macnewbold | if you've got another box around, you could try deleting your entry from its' arp cache, then force it to rearp |
| 23:05.33 | macnewbold | that might wake the router up, |
| 23:05.42 | macnewbold | or reboot the router (or flush it's cache if it has that option) |
| 23:06.55 | findlay | what if I can see them in non promiscuous mode? |
| 23:07.41 | macnewbold | then they ought to have the write address written on them |
| 23:08.12 | macnewbold | if you can see them promiscuously but not non-prom. then they've got an ethernet address other than yours on them (i.e. they've got the wrong thing in their arp cache) |
| 23:08.47 | macnewbold | doh, write was supposed to be right - was thinking about written when I was supposed to be typing right |
| 23:09.15 | findlay | heh |
| 23:13.20 | harleypig | http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&t=k&q=Germany&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=48.857699,10.205451&spn=0.002404,0.006738&om=1 |
| 23:13.24 | harleypig | What the heck is that? |
| 23:14.00 | macnewbold | germany, I think |
| 23:14.18 | atoponce | haha |
| 23:14.20 | atoponce | that's great |
| 23:14.48 | atoponce | earwig seeing a man about a horse |
| 23:14.50 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 23:16.25 | macnewbold | must be a space bug, since those are satellite photos... |
| 23:16.49 | macnewbold | it is probably a lot smaller than an earwig |
| 23:16.58 | macnewbold | it's on the images for about the next 10 zoom levels out |
| 23:17.15 | atoponce | i dunno. it looks likes it's a acre or two long |
| 23:17.58 | atoponce | well, ~200ft, using google's scale, anyway |
| 23:18.33 | atoponce | attack from the killer earwigs from outer space |
| 23:18.39 | macnewbold | I wonder how much of a camera lens the little thing actually obscures |
| 23:18.42 | atoponce | or germany |
| 23:18.47 | macnewbold | it looks different than a real earwig though |
| 23:20.32 | atoponce | it's not casting a shadow, and the detail is different from the rest of the area |
| 23:20.55 | atoponce | so it can't be a large sculpture or man-made object |
| 23:21.14 | atoponce | i bet the google devs are having a bit of gimp fun |
| 23:21.23 | Tene | Can someone interpret some C++ for me? |
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| 23:21.31 | Tene | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.31 | Tene | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.45 | Tene | this is inside of: |
| 23:21.47 | Tene | class EST_Chunk { |
| 23:22.44 | findlay_ | ok, so I have this MAC setup as eth1 (with another on eth0) and since stopping eth0 only then did the packets start coming in |
| 23:23.02 | findlay_ | so it was a routing issue, but one with this local machine |
| 23:23.35 | Tene | Hmm. |
| 23:23.46 | Tene | EST_ChunkPtr is declared a page or two down... |
| 23:24.27 | Tene | The problem is several of these: |
| 23:24.27 | Tene | ../include/EST_Chunk.h:133: error: ‘EST_ChunkPtr’ does not name a type |
| 23:24.27 | Tene | ../include/EST_Chunk.h:135: error: ‘EST_ChunkPtr’ has not been declared |
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| 23:30.50 | findlay_ | thanks for the help macnewbold |
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| 23:40.32 | macnewbold | findlay_, does it work now? |
| 23:40.51 | findlay | it seems to |
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| 23:58.30 | mheath | Is there a way to get apt-get to ignore depends while installing a single package? |
| 23:58.42 | mheath | Or do you have to download the .deb and use dpkg to do that? |
