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| 00:00.28 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
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| 00:02.14 | Sargun | it takes a long time to search through 200k of text! |
| 00:02.18 | Sargun | er |
| 00:02.22 | Sargun | 200k lines |
| 00:02.44 | Sargun | email=kelly_marie_wevill@yahoo.com&password=babylucy |
| 00:02.47 | Sargun | errr |
| 00:02.49 | Sargun | wrong room. |
| 00:03.28 | elg | woohoo! I can read kelly marie wevill's email |
| 00:04.02 | Tene | It's surprisingly tempting to try to log into that yahoo account with that password. |
| 00:04.41 | Sargun | um |
| 00:04.48 | Sargun | thats not e-mail |
| 00:04.50 | Sargun | thats myspace |
| 00:05.01 | Sargun | feel free to |
| 00:05.15 | Sargun | just DO NOT mention the words "David" "adler" "Did it" |
| 00:05.19 | Tene | I didn't think that was an actual "log into email" string, but people often use the same password in multiple places. |
| 00:05.44 | Sargun | hmm |
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| 00:21.09 | err0r | Sargun sucks the penis |
| 00:21.50 | macnewbold | ~language err0r |
| 00:21.58 | ibot | ACTION grabs err0r by the ear and washes err0r's mouth out with soap |
| 00:21.58 | macnewbold | -language err0r |
| 00:22.00 | err0r | fuck you and your language |
| 00:22.01 | err0r | BITCH |
| 00:22.12 | macnewbold | elg, goozbach, Jayce^, anyone around? |
| 00:22.18 | err0r | nope |
| 00:22.22 | err0r | there under my desk |
| 00:22.24 | *** mode/#utah [+b *!*i=ownage@*.lu.dl.cox.net] by elg |
| 00:22.25 | *** kick/#utah [err0r!n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net] by elg (elg) |
| 00:22.30 | macnewbold | thanks elg |
| 00:22.34 | macnewbold | weirdo |
| 00:24.10 | mheath[laptop] | so, my chocolate souffle is in the oven |
| 00:24.18 | mheath[laptop] | (and my pants are in the washer to remove the chocolate souffle) |
| 00:24.25 | Sargun | elg, thanks |
| 00:24.31 | Sargun | we got a troll on atarack |
| 00:24.58 | mheath[laptop] | ~lart atarack |
| 00:25.32 | mheath[laptop] | I'm wondering how the puff will be on this souffle |
| 00:25.37 | mheath[laptop] | the dish I had was too big |
| 00:26.35 | macnewbold | mheath[laptop]: getting back to our earlier conversation, (sorry I got interrupted), yeah some friends and I put it together |
| 00:26.54 | macnewbold | we've been working on gradefix for over a year and launched it last month |
| 00:27.02 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: its awesome, and, yeah, I'm defiantely going to use it! |
| 00:27.17 | macnewbold | sweet! |
| 00:27.23 | mheath[laptop] | Back when I was in highschool, I was trying to find something to actually help _manage_ assignments |
| 00:27.39 | macnewbold | let me know what you think of it, and especially if you see things that could be fixed or improved |
| 00:27.50 | mheath[laptop] | All I could find were traditional task managers built into calendar apps....those don't do the trick :P |
| 00:27.58 | mheath[laptop] | Anyone here ever live in UoU housing? |
| 00:28.27 | mheath[laptop] | I was wondering......when downloading from mirrors located at the UoU, will the speeds be very fast if I'm at the UoU? |
| 00:29.26 | [Utah]tristanbob | mheath[laptop]: http://www.schooltool.org/ ? |
| 00:30.08 | mheath[laptop] | [Utah]tristanbob: thats not at all what me and macnewbold were discussing. |
| 00:30.15 | mheath[laptop] | [Utah]tristanbob: we were talking about a task manager for homework. |
| 00:30.24 | macnewbold | better, tristanbob: http://www.gradefix.com/ |
| 00:30.28 | [Utah]tristanbob | I just started reading that site |
| 00:30.33 | [Utah]tristanbob | thanks |
| 00:30.58 | macnewbold | oh, and your internet connection to campus from the dorm is ethernet, mheath |
| 00:31.07 | macnewbold | 10 or 100mbps, not sure which they're using these days |
| 00:31.15 | macnewbold | it connects out to the internet too |
| 00:31.22 | [Utah]tristanbob | macnewbold: nice looking website |
| 00:31.26 | macnewbold | thanks |
| 00:31.33 | macnewbold | you in school? |
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| 00:35.26 | [Utah]tristanbob | macnewbold: no, work for WSU |
| 00:35.33 | macnewbold | ah |
| 00:35.40 | macnewbold | you probably know some students then :) |
| 00:35.52 | [Utah]tristanbob | but of course! :) |
| 00:36.09 | [Utah]tristanbob | (pun not intended, if there is one) |
| 00:36.11 | macnewbold | it's great for procrastinators who really want to try to get better grades, and for really busy students |
| 00:36.23 | macnewbold | no, I'm not a very punny person sometimes |
| 00:37.01 | [Utah]tristanbob | I always try to hard - usually I am the only one that gets it and that is no fun |
| 00:37.18 | [Utah]tristanbob | too bad I wasn't multi-personalitied, then I could appreciate it |
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| 00:40.49 | Sargun | YES IT FINISHED! |
| 00:48.00 | mheath[laptop] | mmm turkey pot pie with chocolate souffle for dessert. |
| 00:48.44 | macnewbold | do you need my address? |
| 00:49.37 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: yes...I know the connection is ethernet....but does it connect on an intranet to other stuff up there? IE, will connections to mirrors hosted at UoU be faster? |
| 00:50.26 | macnewbold | you're connected at 10 or 100Mbps straight to the campus network, which would connect to any of the mirrors on campus at very high speeds, as well as to the internet along the UofU's redundant connections |
| 00:51.13 | macnewbold | they'd be as fast as your computer and the other computer could handle, probably, |
| 00:51.26 | macnewbold | cause the network inbetween would be pretty darn fast |
| 00:52.00 | mheath[laptop] | yah :) |
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| 00:52.30 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: welcome. |
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| 00:52.34 | SlackwareKid | hello |
| 00:54.18 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: is this your first time using IRC? |
| 00:55.28 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: answer me the way you first answered "hello" with. The other way you're communicating with me is private messaging; its normal to answer things said in a channel by typing in the channel. |
| 00:56.02 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/mheath2/IMAGE016.jpg |
| 00:56.18 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: I'm afraid I didn't have a proper souffle dish |
| 00:57.13 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: Please answer me in here. Theres no reason to talk to me in a private message. Its also considered a bit rude by many people to private message them without persmission. |
| 00:57.50 | macnewbold | SlackwareKid: in Chatzilla, you'll probably need to click on #utah again to get focus back in here |
| 00:58.08 | macnewbold | if you're typing /msg in front of what you say, stop |
| 00:58.32 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: and I think one of the hallmark attributes of being mature is not trying to introduce yourself by talking about how much you've matured. :) |
| 00:58.54 | macnewbold | dude, yeah, that's what I'm talking about |
| 00:59.24 | mheath[laptop] | heh, I hate sitting infront of two sets of keyboards. I keep trying to use the wrong keyboard for the wrong computer :P |
| 00:59.38 | macnewbold | I'm here at the office working late, and could really use something tasty to keep me awake... too bad chocolate doesn't email well |
| 00:59.51 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/mheath2/IMAGE016.jpg sitting upstairs, waiting for me to finish my dinner. |
| 00:59.54 | macnewbold | KVM's are a little better, but not always |
| 01:00.07 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: nah, its a laptop and a desktop. |
| 01:00.16 | macnewbold | heh, why wait :) |
| 01:00.38 | macnewbold | unless your mother is there, who says you can't have chocolate souffle for dinner, and the turkey for dessert? |
| 01:00.46 | mheath[laptop] | hahah |
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| 01:01.20 | mheath[laptop] | again, this is going to bother me the most about living in a dorm |
| 01:01.26 | mheath[laptop] | not having a good kitchen to cook things in |
| 01:02.47 | SlackwareKid | what age did everyone start using linux? |
| 01:04.45 | Tene | 96 |
| 01:04.59 | mheath[laptop] | The Third Age. |
| 01:05.08 | mheath[laptop] | (The age of man) |
| 01:05.43 | mheath[laptop] | Bah, I just found out why the recipe said to "Serve immediately" |
| 01:05.43 | mheath[laptop] | My souffle has a large crater :( |
| 01:05.43 | Tene | :( |
| 01:05.43 | SlackwareKid | i'm currently 13, and i've been using it(not really at the begining, just playing games on KDE) since 3rd grade |
| 01:06.10 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: awesome! You're off to a great start. |
| 01:06.16 | levi | mheath[laptop]: There's a program that lets you share a keyboard and mouse between two computers with separate monitors. |
| 01:06.26 | levi | mheath[laptop]: Including copy/paste between them. |
| 01:06.26 | Tene | synergy |
| 01:06.31 | levi | Right, that's the one. |
| 01:06.41 | mheath[laptop] | levi: nah, the two computers are together so infrequently that its not worth setting things up like that. |
| 01:06.56 | levi | It's not very hard, but whatever you want to do. |
| 01:07.15 | SlackwareKid | what distro does everyone use |
| 01:07.17 | mheath[laptop] | hmmm. I think that next time, I will definately use a sweeter chocolate. |
| 01:07.50 | macnewbold | SlackwareKid: you should try FreeBSD, it's the best distro |
| 01:08.03 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: LFS, Gentoo, Slackware, Ubuntu, and Debian and various times |
| 01:08.12 | Tene | Eww. Very bad experiences with FreeBSD recently. |
| 01:08.24 | Tene | Although the negative part was more the maintainer... |
| 01:08.26 | macnewbold | what happened, Tene? was it FreeBSD's fault? |
| 01:08.29 | macnewbold | ah, maintainers |
| 01:08.33 | macnewbold | they can be great, or a real pain |
| 01:08.35 | macnewbold | what port? |
| 01:08.46 | Tene | I don't understand the question. |
| 01:08.57 | Tene | I probably don't know. |
| 01:09.33 | macnewbold | what maintainer or what program's maintainer were you trying to deal with? |
| 01:09.44 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: Please don't private message me! I reserve private conversations for people who need my attention or have a reason to talk in private, not to make casual conversation that carries over from something in the channel. |
| 01:09.46 | Tene | No, the problem was with the administrator of the box. |
| 01:09.56 | Tene | He had qmail set up all stupid. |
| 01:09.57 | Sargun | SlackwareKid, HEY! |
| 01:10.05 | Sargun | SlackwareKid, mheath[laptop] hates me |
| 01:10.14 | Sargun | and everryone else |
| 01:10.17 | Sargun | :-P |
| 01:10.19 | Sargun | Just kidding |
| 01:10.20 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: I don't know what you're doing, but you don't have to double click on my name or type /msg or anything. Just talk in the room. |
| 01:10.21 | Tene | He didn't use ports or anything, he just downloaded the source separately and followed some strange installation guide he found on the internet. |
| 01:10.26 | macnewbold | ah |
| 01:10.32 | macnewbold | yeah, that might do it |
| 01:10.46 | mheath[laptop] | ~praise ports |
| 01:10.57 | ibot | All hail ports! |
| 01:11.06 | macnewbold | hear hear, ports are the r0x0r |
| 01:11.15 | macnewbold | or whatever someone 1337 would say |
| 01:11.30 | mheath[laptop] | "ports are 31337 like me" perhaps? :-P |
| 01:11.37 | macnewbold | possibly |
| 01:11.44 | macnewbold | ~nickometer SlackwareKid |
| 01:11.50 | mheath[laptop] | Sargun: go to marine corps basic training for a while. You'll hate everyone, too. |
| 01:11.58 | Sargun | it was a joke |
| 01:12.01 | macnewbold | ~nickometer ^Migs^[Away] |
| 01:12.05 | Sargun | you don't hate everyone. |
| 01:12.12 | Sargun | Just non-java developers |
| 01:12.29 | mheath[laptop] | Sargun: I hate everyone, I just control said hatred. |
| 01:12.44 | mheath[laptop] | I think most people in this world are lazy dirty slobs. :-) |
| 01:12.54 | SlackwareKid | hate leads to anger |
| 01:13.14 | macnewbold | and anger leads to the Dark Side... |
| 01:13.31 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: yes, and anger is what the Marine Corps tried to instill in me so I could beat the crap out of people with my M16A2 service rife. |
| 01:13.33 | mheath[laptop] | *rifle |
| 01:13.39 | SlackwareKid | ~nickometer Sargun |
| 01:13.39 | macnewbold | SlackwareKid: you in school? you might like www.gradefix.com to help keep track of all your homework and help you be a really good student |
| 01:13.57 | Sargun | macnewbold, do you run gradefix.com? |
| 01:14.08 | macnewbold | yeah, but not alone |
| 01:14.14 | Sargun | very cool |
| 01:14.23 | Sargun | Who is your webhoster? |
| 01:14.25 | macnewbold | like I'm not responsible for the cool graphic design, just the functionality |
| 01:14.25 | Sargun | Xmission? |
| 01:14.28 | mheath[laptop] | The souffle is quite yummy. But it needs to be sweeter. |
| 01:14.28 | Sargun | lol |
| 01:14.37 | macnewbold | I host it myself, but our servers are coloc'd at XM, yes |
| 01:14.45 | com4 | Sweet, slackware kid... i used to use slackware but i got tired of compiling everything by hand :) |
| 01:14.51 | com4 | best distro ever though |
| 01:14.51 | macnewbold | mheath[laptop]: bring some over, I'll be the judge of that... |
| 01:14.54 | Sargun | SlackwareKid, how old are you? |
| 01:14.57 | macnewbold | 13 |
| 01:15.10 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: it tastes like dark chocolate. |
| 01:15.13 | Sargun | very cool |
| 01:15.24 | Sargun | I think you need a VPS! |
| 01:15.27 | mheath[laptop] | Wow. 13 seems like so long ago. |
| 01:15.37 | mheath[laptop] | The things I've been through since then... |
| 01:15.48 | Sargun | you dissapeared |
| 01:15.52 | Sargun | like last year? |
| 01:15.57 | Sargun | you were here, right? |
| 01:16.37 | SlackwareKid | ya |
| 01:16.50 | Sargun | why was there such a big gap? |
| 01:16.55 | Sargun | you use AOL? Lagging? |
| 01:16.56 | Sargun | :-P |
| 01:17.04 | mheath[laptop] | I remember being that young and always thinking I was exceptionally intelligent, mature, and wise. |
| 01:17.16 | mheath[laptop] | A few years down the road I can always look back and realize how utterly stupid I was at the time |
| 01:17.22 | mheath[laptop] | I'm sure the same will be true of now, too. |
| 01:18.00 | SlackwareKid | no, i don't use AOL, i have Iprovo(although it isn't very good after my brother passed the bandwith limit) |
| 01:18.16 | Sargun | hey |
| 01:18.21 | Sargun | how old is your brother |
| 01:18.26 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: the texture of this is amazing. You know cakes that advertize "A cup of pudding in the mix", but they always turn out to be really...normal? This is like what you'd dream a cake like that would turn out like |
| 01:18.30 | mheath[laptop] | Light, fluffy, moist, rich. |
| 01:18.48 | mheath[laptop] | The flavor is like dark chocolate...somewhat bitter, but nice (I used premium ghiradelli's baking chocolate) |
| 01:18.51 | SlackwareKid | my brother is 21 |
| 01:19.05 | macnewbold | sounds very tasty, mheath |
| 01:20.00 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: tell your brother to move out and get his own internet connection. |
| 01:20.29 | SlackwareKid | hopefully he's moving out next july, after he goes back to school at BYU and gets a job |
| 01:21.25 | SlackwareKid | with Slackware 10.2, it's a pain to install stuff that needs the GNOME libraries, because they aren't there(for the most part) |
| 01:21.33 | mheath[laptop] | I should be moving out in 3 months. Hopefully. |
| 01:22.01 | mheath[laptop] | "Starting my life", take 2.... |
| 01:22.02 | SlackwareKid | has anyone here successfully put Linux on a PocketPC? |
| 01:22.32 | SlackwareKid | like an IPAQ, or some other similiar model |
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| 01:23.36 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: Yep, theres lots of supported things like that. |
| 01:23.38 | macnewbold | SlackwareKid: I know a bunch of people did it on Zaurus PDAs |
| 01:24.01 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: Some manufacturers are even selling cellphones with Linux as the included operating system. |
| 01:24.07 | SlackwareKid | has anyone heard of/experienced Lucid Dreaming |
| 01:24.17 | macnewbold | heard of it |
| 01:24.21 | macnewbold | you trying to do it? |
| 01:24.26 | macnewbold | cause we're all awake here |
| 01:24.28 | SlackwareKid | i read about how to put Linux on the IPAQ, but i never got all the stuff |
| 01:24.30 | macnewbold | well, mostly |
| 01:24.45 | SlackwareKid | ya, i like the idea of Lucid Dreaming, i tried to do it last night, but it didn't work |
| 01:24.46 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold will be a great test study in a few minutes, I think :) |
| 01:25.28 | macnewbold | be very sure before you do the linux thing on the pda, SlackwareKid, otherwise you'll end up with a very expensive paperweight |
| 01:25.58 | mheath[laptop] | Yep. PDAs aren't like computers, where you can just pop in a CD and reformat. |
| 01:26.16 | mheath[laptop] | You have to have something that will let you reflash the drive. |
| 01:27.03 | SlackwareKid | i don't know if the Factory Reset switch(all the Ram and Rom are stored in the battery, and when the switch is flipped, it disconnects the battery and erases the memory) |
| 01:27.08 | SlackwareKid | would wokr |
| 01:27.12 | macnewbold | no, usually not |
| 01:27.25 | macnewbold | cause you'll be erasing almost everything it uses to reset it :) |
| 01:27.38 | SlackwareKid | well, it's hard to explain what it does |
| 01:27.40 | macnewbold | you should be able to back it up though before you put the linux on it |
| 01:27.50 | SlackwareKid | i've actually had to use it to fix an error with it |
| 01:28.11 | SlackwareKid | i got it for christmas(an old model of Ebay, the Ipaq 3600, perfect size to fit in my big hands) |
| 01:29.14 | SlackwareKid | does anyone have any idea on how to get a VGA monitor working for a PowerPC, so i can put linux on it? |
| 01:29.31 | mheath[laptop] | SlackwareKid: yep, they make cheap adapters to do that. |
| 01:29.38 | mheath[laptop] | You can find one on the net. |
| 01:31.50 | mheath[laptop] | OK, I'm going to go and watch a movie. If someone really needs me, priv msg me |
| 01:32.14 | macnewbold | what movie? anything fun? |
| 01:36.16 | SlackwareKid | did anybody read the November 2005 article about the 16-node Cluster in a Toolbox in LInuxJournal? |
| 01:37.49 | macnewbold | what hardware were they using? |
| 01:38.08 | macnewbold | MacMinis would work well for that if you can keep them cool when they're densely packed |
| 01:39.51 | SlackwareKid | Advance Digital Logic boards with 277 MHz Pentium processors |
| 01:40.00 | Sargun | nice |
| 01:40.08 | Sargun | wait, wht are we talking about |
| 01:42.39 | SlackwareKid | a 16-node cluster in a toolbox |
| 01:42.41 | SlackwareKid | which i wish i had enough money to do that |
| 01:43.15 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 01:46.07 | SlackwareKid | i'm tired, i'm gonna go watch tv until i fall asleep... |
| 01:47.25 | macnewbold | a little early, maquis, no? |
| 01:47.31 | macnewbold | or are you coming off an all-nighter? |
| 01:48.08 | maquis | macnewbold: just feeling a bit worn out... |
| 01:48.24 | macnewbold | understandable |
| 01:48.26 | maquis | jet-lag + brand-new job + waking up too early |
| 01:48.35 | macnewbold | remind me, did you graduate last year, or still in school? |
| 01:48.42 | macnewbold | how's the new job treating you? |
| 01:48.47 | maquis | graduated in mid-august |
| 01:48.51 | Sargun | cool |
| 01:48.54 | macnewbold | very nice |
| 01:49.00 | macnewbold | congrats |
| 01:49.02 | maquis | new job is treating me well, but there's a million things to learn and way too much information ;) |
| 01:49.06 | maquis | thx |
| 01:49.06 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 01:49.12 | macnewbold | what kind of job is it? |
| 01:49.25 | maquis | development |
| 01:49.43 | macnewbold | what language(s)? |
| 01:50.16 | maquis | supposedly c++... probably won't be doing any coding for about 3 more weeks, though |
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| 01:50.42 | maquis | they're giving me that time to come to understand how the exissting stuff works first |
| 01:51.10 | maquis | anyway, i've got some stuff i've got to do, so i'd better run for a bit... bbiab |
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| 01:54.26 | SlackwareKid | hey maquis\ |
| 01:55.02 | graphy1 | hey maquis |
| 01:55.10 | graphy1 | (is there an echo) |
| 02:15.58 | Sargun | hey maquis |
| 02:32.43 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 02:35.11 | levi_home | So, I just got a rack set up to receive 8 dual-processor dual-core Woodcrest Xeon machines. |
| 02:35.36 | levi_home | I also have a dual-Opteron machine in it. |
| 02:36.09 | levi_home | Despite the coolness of the hardware going into it, setting up a rack and installing rails and running cables is not fun. |
| 02:45.52 | elg | amen |
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| 02:47.22 | Sargun | hey |
| 02:49.36 | billfur | hey |
| 02:50.19 | graphyx | levi_home: It's work, but pays off if you do it right. |
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| 02:54.43 | levi_home | graphyx: Well, I would be happier about it if I was going to be doing more than just turning them on and off remotely via ipmi and similar things. |
| 02:55.32 | levi_home | And shortly after I use them for a demo, all but two of the Xeon boxes will be going back to other people. |
| 02:55.47 | levi_home | And my poor rack will be nearly empty again. |
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| 03:01.56 | graphyx | Just make sure the time is all billable, and you've got no problems. |
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| 03:05.15 | findlay | ~static ibot |
| 03:05.20 | findlay | ~static |
| 03:05.22 | ibot | i guess static is a stud |
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| 03:07.23 | Sargun | how do you set your hostname in debian? |
| 03:07.35 | findlay | I think it's /etc/hostname |
| 03:07.46 | maquis | hello to all the people that said hi earlier |
| 03:08.10 | findlay | ~hello maquis |
| 03:11.41 | findlay | ibot: say hello |
| 03:11.44 | ibot | hello |
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| 03:16.57 | *** part/#utah Kuyaedz-Office (i=Kuyaedz@gateway/tor/x-bb6dc377ff170de0) |
| 03:18.18 | mheath[laptop] | Why is it that my logitech wireless mouse will work from across the room, but my Microsoft mouse barely works when the mouse is on the right side of the laptop and the receiver is plugged into the left side? |
| 03:18.34 | mheath[laptop] | Is it really possible for Microsoft to fail that fundamentally at _hardware_, too? |
| 03:20.25 | bonez39 | anyone here right now running on any machine with only SATA drives, running linux? |
| 03:20.42 | Sargun | bonez39, jahaha! |
| 03:20.51 | billfur | mheath[laptop], heck if I know. My logitech mouse has more problems then my microsoft |
| 03:20.52 | Sargun | (yes) |
| 03:21.18 | mheath[laptop] | I bought this mouse to use with presentations with my laptop |
| 03:21.25 | mheath[laptop] | (it has some of the office buttons on it) |
| 03:21.41 | mheath[laptop] | Doesn't do me much good when the mouse doesn't work at more than 1 foot from the receiver. |
| 03:21.43 | Sargun | you were supposed to be in the military |
| 03:21.45 | Sargun | not the office. |
| 03:22.44 | findlay | bonez39: I am |
| 03:23.01 | mheath[laptop] | Sargun says things like this, then wonders why I think he's a disgusting specimen of a human being. |
| 03:24.06 | Sargun | findlay, what controller? |
| 03:24.13 | findlay | JMicron |
| 03:24.16 | Sargun | findlay, did you try IDE emulation |
| 03:24.26 | findlay | what's the point? |
| 03:24.57 | findlay | I experimented a lot when I first got this MB and nothing really works except in the current configuration |
| 03:24.57 | Sargun | how are you booting linux now? |
| 03:25.20 | findlay | from a sata drive |
| 03:26.05 | findlay | glad to be rid of IDE |
| 03:26.07 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], thanks for being honest! |
| 03:26.32 | mheath[laptop] | Sargun: don't feel too special. Like I've said, I already think most people are disgusting specimens of human beings. |
| 03:26.39 | findlay | and the inconvenient ribbon |
| 03:27.05 | Sargun | findlay, SATA has 4 laters, one more letter than IDE, it must be better! |
| 03:27.09 | mheath[laptop] | I was just commenting on your particularly interesting way of showing your complete and total disgusting personality :) |
| 03:27.13 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], what ever happened to leilas? |
| 03:28.14 | mheath[laptop] | findlay: I remember that before SATA started to really take hold, a lot of manufacturers started making cable-style IDE ribbons |
| 03:28.47 | mheath[laptop] | Still, the plugs were the nasty long ribbons. |
| 03:28.56 | findlay | it's not really the ribbons as much as the plugs |
| 03:29.43 | findlay | Sargun: having trouble finding girls? |
| 03:29.44 | mheath[laptop] | IDE is like Intel processors.......A standard that really isn't any good, but the manufacturers still cling to for some pointless backwards compatability reasons. |
| 03:29.51 | Sargun | findlay, |
| 03:29.52 | Sargun | no. |
| 03:29.59 | mheath[laptop] | haha. |
| 03:30.03 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 03:30.06 | Sargun | now the problem is having a very crazy girl liking me. |
| 03:30.10 | Sargun | who scares me slightly |
| 03:30.13 | findlay | Sargun: yeah, there's like 20 million girs in Cal |
| 03:30.34 | Sargun | findlay, but smart, sane ones = difficult to find |
| 03:30.40 | mheath[laptop] | findlay: hmm, I should move to california! :-P |
| 03:30.44 | Sargun | I found one (that sorta likes me), but she is mormon. |
| 03:30.53 | findlay | oh no |
| 03:30.55 | Sargun | heh |
| 03:31.23 | findlay | well, 19.999999 million left |
| 03:32.19 | findlay | Sargun: I think you should advertize on myspace |
| 03:32.30 | Sargun | ~lart findlay for saying myspace |
| 03:32.51 | findlay | Sargun: check out WWW::Myspace |
| 03:33.00 | findlay | for all your myspace automation needs |
| 03:33.03 | Sargun | perl myspace module |
| 03:33.09 | mheath[laptop] | findlay: Like the message my sister got.....Looking for a 'female companion'..... |
| 03:33.16 | Sargun | I got like 200 passwords |
| 03:33.19 | Sargun | I need to check |
| 03:33.21 | mheath[laptop] | Went on to say such profound and romantic words as 'basically I'm looking to pay a woman to have sex with me' |
| 03:33.34 | Sargun | lol |
| 03:33.36 | findlay | surely you can cobble together a decent perl script with that to sift out the smart, sane california girls |
| 03:33.37 | Sargun | how old is she? |
| 03:33.40 | Sargun | like 12? |
| 03:33.47 | mheath[laptop] | Oops, thats right. Not sure Sargun knows what 'sex' means yet...hasn't had that discussion with his parents.... |
| 03:33.57 | Sargun | uhh... |
| 03:33.57 | Sargun | no |
| 03:34.08 | Sargun | knowing myspace, and all the pervs on there |
| 03:34.20 | Sargun | a 12 year old sounds like a perfect target |
| 03:34.34 | mheath[laptop] | findlay: you're still going to drop by and get that printer, right? Friday? |
| 03:34.35 | Sargun | I mean what else would all the myspace weirdos do. |
| 03:34.41 | findlay | mheath[laptop]: yes |
| 03:34.51 | Sargun | I thought I was on /ignore. |
| 03:35.16 | mheath[laptop] | Haven't used it in a bit. I'm going to plug it in and print out a test page just to make sure everythings in order. |
| 03:36.02 | mheath[laptop] | findlay: want a sun computer with monitor for free? |
| 03:36.12 | findlay | mheath[laptop]: not really |
| 03:36.31 | mheath[laptop] | Trying to get rid of it; I'm nervous about donating it to the DI for fear that some old grandmother is going to buy it and then wonder whats going on when it doesn't startup with Windows. |
| 03:36.42 | findlay | ha |
| 03:36.56 | Sargun | findlay, I tend to have horrible luck when pertaining to girls... |
| 03:37.08 | Sargun | The girl with the crazed friend who wants to kill me.. |
| 03:37.16 | Sargun | The girl who thinks guys are total idiots. |
| 03:37.32 | Sargun | The girl on IRC who I am sure is an FBI sting, and keeps wanting to talk to me. |
| 03:37.32 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: gee, I don't think its just her that wants to kill you.. |
| 03:37.36 | Sargun | lol |
| 03:37.40 | bonez39 | findlay, ok, ... ever have any trouble in getting your SATA set up/ ? |
| 03:37.46 | Sargun | bonez39, nope. |
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| 03:38.03 | nick125_lappy | SATA has been really easy to setup for me |
| 03:38.12 | Sargun | SATA is easy |
| 03:38.22 | nick125_lappy | just remember, if you compile your own kernel, don't forget scsi support, and support for your sata chipset |
| 03:38.42 | bonez39 | nick125, good point to remember |
| 03:38.52 | mheath[laptop] | Maybe Sargun will become a Marine someday, and become un-nasty. :) |
| 03:38.59 | beandog | what kind of nerds compile their own kernel? |
| 03:39.03 | mheath[laptop] | Maybe pigs will fly someday |
| 03:39.04 | findlay | Sargun: trust me, there are not nearly as many girls out there trying to avoid you as me at least by virtue of me having more chances to freak girls out |
| 03:39.14 | findlay | because I'm older |
| 03:39.19 | Sargun | you just roll an initrd, and install grub with the use of dd, and have to initrd rapidly download, compile and install your SATA drivers. Then it searches all your SATA drives for your root partitions, and mounts the best one. |
| 03:39.21 | mheath[laptop] | beandog: I know! Jeez! These hackers trying to break into my computer and steal the internet.... |
| 03:39.24 | Sargun | bonez39, its that simple. |
| 03:39.32 | beandog | wont someone think of the tubes? |
| 03:40.14 | findlay | mheath[laptop]: it's a conspiracy that has to do with the production of ethanol fuel from corn kernels |
| 03:40.33 | mheath[laptop] | findlay: I'm glad I buy nice, safe, gasoline then! |
| 03:40.41 | findlay | they're compiling kernels from all over the world to crush the American economy! |
| 03:40.42 | billfur | Sargun, well just ask if shes over 18... FBI can't exactly lie about that and have a case |
| 03:40.44 | bonez39 | Sargun, just that easy.... |
| 03:41.02 | findlay | bonez39: I haven't had a problem with it |
| 03:41.14 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: sargun is...what...13 years old? |
| 03:41.19 | Sargun | uhh.. |
| 03:41.22 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], shut up. |
| 03:41.36 | billfur | mheath[laptop], I see, why does it matter then? |
| 03:41.37 | billfur | =p |
| 03:41.40 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: In which case she needs to ask the girl if she's allowed out after 7 o'clock. |
| 03:41.44 | findlay | really? I thought Sargun was like 70 |
| 03:41.45 | mheath[laptop] | *In which case he |
| 03:41.49 | Sargun | heh |
| 03:42.18 | mheath[laptop] | When I was that young, I wasn't concerned about girls yet. |
| 03:42.25 | mheath[laptop] | Plenty of time for that later :P |
| 03:42.37 | bonez39 | I think my troubles revolve around crappy diskettes...which work intermittently...but faily at boot up...despite seeming to write ok |
| 03:42.53 | mheath[laptop] | I was just having fun, being a kid still (before the crushing weight of how mucht he world sucks sets in) |
| 03:42.58 | findlay | bonez39: can you get around having to use floppy disks? |
| 03:43.45 | mheath[laptop] | bonez39: if you're going to use floppy disks, BIG tip: Don't just write over the old floppy disk thats been sitting around for who-knows-how-long. |
| 03:43.54 | mheath[laptop] | Go out and buy a fresh box. Their dirt cheap now. |
| 03:43.56 | bonez39 | well, I have an IOMEGA zip drive..I COULD load all my tools on it..and tell my BIOS to boot from it first.... |
| 03:44.15 | findlay | why not just use a CDR? |
| 03:44.15 | bonez39 | mheath[laptop], that's excactly what I did and now I realize how foolish that is |
| 03:44.24 | bonez39 | getting a fresh box tomorrow.. |
| 03:44.38 | mheath[laptop] | bonez39: ah. Yeah, floppy disks/drives suck in general. I was just giving that tip because old floppy disks suck even more |
| 03:44.48 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], The average age of a causalty in Iraq is nearly 27. You'd have less than 12 years. |
| 03:44.48 | mheath[laptop] | I had a GIANT box of old floppy disks |
| 03:44.57 | mheath[laptop] | around 300 |
| 03:45.04 | mheath[laptop] | I spent a day doing testing on all of them |
| 03:45.07 | Sargun | er, and considering the mormon religion doesn't allow dating until 16... |
| 03:45.13 | Sargun | You'd have 11 years. |
| 03:45.24 | mheath[laptop] | all but around 20 were bad |
| 03:46.14 | findlay | ~bad |
| 03:46.15 | ibot | ACTION whines like a puppy and sulks |
| 03:46.24 | findlay | ooh, that's bad |
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| 03:47.03 | Sargun | how many girls did you guys go through before finding "the one" |
| 03:47.15 | findlay | about 1024 |
| 03:47.21 | mheath[laptop] | ibot: sargun $blah is <reply>Want a VPS, $blah ?! How about it? I think you need a VPS, $blah ! Come on, lets get you a VPS, $blah ! Oh, by the way, do you know any 13 year old girls who live in San Fransisco?? |
| 03:47.23 | ibot | mheath[laptop]: okay |
| 03:47.27 | findlay | actually, I think it was exactly 1024 |
| 03:47.32 | beandog | $blah? |
| 03:47.44 | mheath[laptop] | ~sargun beandog |
| 03:47.45 | ibot | Want a VPS, beandog ?! How about it? I think you need a VPS, beandog ! Come on, lets get you a VPS, beandog ! Oh, by the way, do you know any 13 year old girls who live in San Fransisco?? |
| 03:47.57 | beandog | VPS? |
| 03:48.06 | mheath[laptop] | beandog: Sargun will tell you all about them. |
| 03:48.11 | beandog | -_- |
| 03:48.22 | macnewbold | Sargun: the woman that is now my wife was about the third person I ever kissed, and that was that. |
| 03:48.30 | findlay | >-> |
| 03:48.33 | findlay | <-< |
| 03:48.36 | findlay | ^-^ |
| 03:48.38 | mheath[laptop] | ^_^ |
| 03:48.42 | findlay | -_- |
| 03:48.44 | mheath[laptop] | darn, you beat me. |
| 03:48.47 | Sargun | lets say you meet girls at parties (I doubt this), and there are 3 parties every week. There are 52 weeks in the year. Thats 156 girls a year. thats about 6.5 years before you find 'the one' |
| 03:48.54 | findlay | o_o |
| 03:49.03 | findlay | O_O |
| 03:49.08 | findlay | my eyes are tired |
| 03:49.10 | beandog | youre supposed to go the parties AND meet them? |
| 03:49.16 | beandog | Why doesnt anyone tell me these things. |
| 03:49.23 | beandog | findlay: heh. |
| 03:49.28 | findlay | 3 parties a week? where?! |
| 03:49.33 | findlay | ~party |
| 03:49.35 | ibot | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 03:49.37 | mheath[laptop] | beandog: I thought the parties were for the drunkiness part. |
| 03:49.48 | Sargun | findlay, pleasanton, number 8 high school party city in america. |
| 03:49.49 | Sargun | :-D |
| 03:49.51 | mheath[laptop] | I mean... |
| 03:49.51 | billfur | Sargun, thats assuming that you party with different people every year |
| 03:49.55 | billfur | day |
| 03:49.55 | billfur | blah |
| 03:50.09 | Sargun | and after you find "the one" |
| 03:50.17 | Sargun | you have 4.4358974358974379 |
| 03:50.19 | Sargun | years. |
| 03:50.21 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: ? Is he discussing the statistics of dating or something? :P |
| 03:50.24 | Sargun | heh |
| 03:50.25 | findlay | I thought "the one" was a credit card |
| 03:50.29 | billfur | apparently |
| 03:50.56 | findlay | I have a debit card, don't need any credit cards |
| 03:50.57 | billfur | I'm not sure where the odds came from though =p |
| 03:50.57 | mheath[laptop] | Well, theres the #1 reason he has trouble meeting women: he looks at them like an equation. :P |
| 03:51.20 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: odds? Sorry, I've got him on ignore. |
| 03:51.30 | Sargun | equation.. |
| 03:51.31 | Sargun | no. |
| 03:51.42 | Sargun | epa set of variables. |
| 03:51.47 | billfur | mheath[laptop], lol |
| 03:51.49 | macnewbold | Speaking of odds... some people might thing Sargun is pretty odd |
| 03:51.58 | Sargun | some people, many people? |
| 03:52.06 | macnewbold | close enough |
| 03:52.11 | beandog | I wonder what the odds of me meeting the one are. |
| 03:52.30 | billfur | well I just want to know where you find the stat that you have to date 1000 girls to find the one |
| 03:52.34 | billfur | it seems like a bad argument =p |
| 03:52.57 | macnewbold | it gets even worse if you're looking for that "one in a million" girl |
| 03:53.23 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: ah, but all you've got to do is meet 100 girls at a party and....... |
| 03:53.24 | mheath[laptop] | =P |
| 03:53.47 | mheath[laptop] | 1. Meet 100 girls |
| 03:53.51 | mheath[laptop] | 2. ???? |
| 03:53.53 | mheath[laptop] | 3. Profit! |
| 03:54.05 | Sargun | lol |
| 03:54.10 | billfur | 2. Do something else. |
| 03:54.35 | mheath[laptop] | Moving on.... |
| 03:54.52 | Sargun | billfur, your VPS is taking a long time to come up with random data |
| 03:55.22 | mheath[laptop] | I actually just got an excellent business idea. Clicks with an idea my sister in law had. :) |
| 03:55.27 | billfur | this is not my fault |
| 03:55.36 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], what? |
| 03:56.01 | Sargun | billfur, run some stuff |
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| 03:56.34 | mheath[laptop] | She wants to open a very, very high scale bed and breakfast on our property near Telluride. Catering to celebrities and the like. I was thinking of going to a culinary institute some time in my life....the ideas click nicely. |
| 03:56.42 | findlay | "R" stands for "Retarded", right? |
| 03:57.25 | mheath[laptop] | findlay: No, its "Really, the changes are quite low that this movie will be any good, and they are quite high that it will be filled with a worthless and large amount of stupid violence." |
| 03:57.38 | mheath[laptop] | s/changes/chances/g |
| 03:57.45 | elg | talking about the new pirate movie? |
| 03:57.46 | *** join/#utah billfur (n=billfur@dhcp-201-215.housing.utah.edu) |
| 03:58.13 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: how's the connection to UoU mirrors? |
| 03:58.32 | Sargun | V for Vendatta, and Brick were pretty good. |
| 03:58.39 | findlay | what does it look like to see into a UU mirror? |
| 03:59.00 | billfur | nice |
| 03:59.03 | mheath[laptop] | I was curious what connections to stuff on the UoU intranet were like |
| 03:59.05 | billfur | its like 10mbs |
| 03:59.06 | findlay | can you see the boogie man? |
| 03:59.13 | beandog | Brick? |
| 03:59.15 | billfur | my tcp connection is unstable as heck though |
| 03:59.35 | billfur | looks like a bad router, and dealing with netcom here isn't exactly a userfriendly experiance |
| 03:59.36 | findlay | billfur: can you not get a static addr? |
| 03:59.45 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: Do they have wireless in the dorms? |
| 03:59.47 | billfur | pseudo-static |
| 03:59.51 | billfur | mheath[laptop], no |
| 03:59.59 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: darn, so I'll have to buy my own AP :( |
| 04:00.01 | billfur | also they get really upset if you start hooking up wireless routers. |
| 04:00.14 | mheath[laptop] | What about a simple AP? |
| 04:00.14 | billfur | they require you to logon before they will let you connect to the internet |
| 04:00.30 | billfur | also, this logon is removed if you shutdown... so you can't use AP's |
| 04:00.33 | Sargun | beandog, yeah, did you see it? |
| 04:00.37 | billfur | you'd have to use a computer with a wireless network card |
| 04:00.37 | beandog | no |
| 04:00.40 | beandog | Ive never heard of it. |
| 04:00.59 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: I thought there wireless connection points that, in essence, simulated as if you were directly connected to the line |
| 04:01.13 | mheath[laptop] | I've only personally dealt with full routers, though, so maybe I was wrong. |
| 04:01.37 | mheath[laptop] | That's rediculous that my wireless will be worthless :( |
| 04:01.44 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: is there wireless on campus anywhere? |
| 04:01.47 | billfur | mheath[laptop], well, yeah. |
| 04:02.35 | billfur | mheath[laptop], seriously, they are pita's about internet connections here |
| 04:02.40 | billfur | they even lie about blocking ports. |
| 04:02.43 | Sargun | ~say hi world! |
| 04:02.45 | ibot | hi world! |
| 04:02.59 | elg | billfur: sounds like utah all right |
| 04:03.04 | mheath[laptop] | Sigh. I knew it would only be a short while before Sargun tried to talk through ibot :( |
| 04:03.04 | Sargun | lol |
| 04:03.11 | billfur | ftp is blocked for instance, but if you call and ask them for a list of whats blocked, they claim they don't block anything |
| 04:03.15 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], iBot is fun. |
| 04:03.15 | elg | NMSU has excellent wireless coverage |
| 04:03.26 | elg | and you only have to register your mac once |
| 04:03.27 | Sargun | billfur, are you going to tunnel everything through your VPS? |
| 04:03.28 | billfur | so you can't complain about something that doesn't officially exist |
| 04:03.31 | billfur | Sargun, heck no |
| 04:03.33 | billfur | just IRC. |
| 04:03.34 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: what about their login policy? Linux-friendly, or does it require some weird software? |
| 04:03.36 | billfur | irc is unstable as heck |
| 04:03.40 | billfur | linux works fine |
| 04:03.43 | Sargun | billfur, why not? |
| 04:03.44 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: _outgoing_ FTP? |
| 04:03.45 | billfur | wireless on linux is a bit iffy |
| 04:03.49 | billfur | mheath[laptop], incoming |
| 04:03.50 | Sargun | tunnel FTP! |
| 04:03.57 | elg | tunnel wireless! |
| 04:04.07 | Sargun | elg, people do |
| 04:04.11 | Sargun | microwave channel! |
| 04:04.14 | Sargun | FTW! |
| 04:04.19 | macnewbold | so why can't you set up the router/AP and do the login dance using a computer behind it? |
| 04:04.20 | elg | people tunnel wireless? |
| 04:04.31 | billfur | macnewbold, hm, I guess that could work =p |
| 04:04.34 | elg | that's a trick. the whole point is to be without wires |
| 04:04.52 | Sargun | elg, not that hard. |
| 04:04.52 | billfur | I don't like wireless anyway |
| 04:04.54 | elg | macnewbold: in bridge mode you mean? probably would work |
| 04:04.54 | macnewbold | or set up an AP, hook up your linux box as a router, then hook your linux box to their network and do the login dance |
| 04:04.55 | billfur | too easy to crack/intercept |
| 04:05.05 | elg | billfur: vpn |
| 04:05.08 | mheath[laptop] | Are there any CS-themed floors / dorm areas? |
| 04:05.10 | mheath[laptop] | :P |
| 04:05.10 | findlay | and wireless wires get tangled more easily |
| 04:05.14 | billfur | mheath[laptop], no |
| 04:05.20 | elg | no need to throw the bath water out with the baby |
| 04:05.24 | macnewbold | they don't segregate |
| 04:05.39 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: rats. Are you a CS major? |
| 04:05.42 | elg | Sargun: right, when you figure out how to get wireless without wireless so you can tunnel wireless, you let me know |
| 04:05.52 | billfur | mheath[laptop], eh....complicated subject |
| 04:06.08 | billfur | that I'll be glad to talk about in PM's |
| 04:06.24 | mheath[laptop] | Hehe. Well, have your experiences with the CS department / classes been positive? |
| 04:06.57 | Sargun | elg, why not? |
| 04:07.03 | Sargun | I don't like the baby |
| 04:09.11 | macnewbold | elg: you can tunnel wireless communications over wired networks, it isn't that hard. you just need wireless APs at both ends, and a wired network inbetween that connects them |
| 04:09.28 | macnewbold | kind of like if my wireless laptop was talking to mheath's wireless laptop over the internet |
| 04:09.52 | *** join/#utah Tene_ (n=tene@poipu/supporter/slacker/tene) |
| 04:09.58 | Sargun | Tene, Hey! |
| 04:10.00 | Sargun | sup? |
| 04:10.25 | elg | macnewbold: sure, but the joke was in the context of tunneling stuff to get around the nazi-ism |
| 04:10.28 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: Implement a tunnel protocol that accepts raw 802.11g low level language, and sends it over TCP/IP =P |
| 04:10.42 | macnewbold | ew |
| 04:11.10 | macnewbold | I bet you could tunnel around the nazi-ism |
| 04:11.12 | macnewbold | or through it |
| 04:11.15 | macnewbold | or under it maybe |
| 04:11.28 | Sargun | heh |
| 04:11.54 | elg | i bet that if you can do authentication to their system with linux, you could set up a WAP with openwrt that will auth |
| 04:11.55 | macnewbold | if you had a collaborator on the outside, you could use encapsulation and tunneling to get full, unfettered access to the internet |
| 04:12.03 | elg | and then you have wireless. whether they get mad at you is your problem. :) |
| 04:12.07 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 04:12.29 | beandog | mheath[laptop]: CS-themed floors? wt ... ? |
| 04:12.38 | elg | but even bridging mode would probably work fine |
| 04:13.03 | elg | and then you'd not be providing any more access than the port on the wall - don't see how they could justifiably get mad |
| 04:13.08 | mheath[laptop] | beandog: Yes. I know some universities have that. Its common for dorms to have some floors/areas reserved for special categories....Honor studies groups, or particular majors. |
| 04:13.09 | billfur | yeah this isn't mit p |
| 04:13.10 | elg | although I'm sure they might. this is utah after all |
| 04:13.27 | beandog | MIT isnt that exciting. |
| 04:13.32 | billfur | I never said it was. |
| 04:13.43 | billfur | I just said don't confuse these dorms for MIT. |
| 04:13.52 | beandog | heh |
| 04:14.07 | elg | what about a hawaiian school? |
| 04:14.13 | elg | can you confuse it for one of those? |
| 04:14.48 | mheath[laptop] | I want to go to MIT eventually. |
| 04:14.51 | mheath[laptop] | =P |
| 04:14.57 | mheath[laptop] | Yet another dream |
| 04:15.00 | mheath[laptop] | I have too many dreams |
| 04:15.11 | billfur | why |
| 04:15.15 | billfur | what does MIT buy you? |
| 04:15.25 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: respect. |
| 04:15.25 | Sargun | billfur, it sounds cool. |
| 04:15.27 | elg | heh. check out this feature list |
| 04:15.27 | elg | http://codeforpeople.com/lib/ruby/acgi/acgi-0.1.0/README |
| 04:15.32 | Sargun | :-P |
| 04:15.43 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: People respect an MIT CS degree more than that of other universites |
| 04:15.50 | Sargun | true, dat. |
| 04:16.15 | elg | I get the feeling he doesn't want apache modules |
| 04:16.33 | billfur | people respect what you've done. |
| 04:16.46 | Sargun | like start-up a VPS provider :-P |
| 04:16.52 | beandog | ruby's weerd. |
| 04:16.53 | billfur | startup's always look good imo |
| 04:17.24 | billfur | Any big name school is unequivabley a huge waste of money for undergrad |
| 04:17.25 | Sargun | billfur, job isn't difficult. |
| 04:17.33 | billfur | except maybe olin, it looks like it would be worth it |
| 04:17.47 | Sargun | the asian need to go to a amazing college is. |
| 04:17.50 | billfur | Sargun, and? Initative and responsibilty are more important then anything they teach you. |
| 04:18.00 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: I know, hence the reason I'm not going to MIT as an undergrad :P |
| 04:18.23 | mheath[laptop] | billfur: Saying that people respect what you do is a lie. The respect education, and they respect official work experience. |
| 04:18.23 | Sargun | mheath[laptop], also the fact that you cannot get in :-P |
| 04:18.27 | billfur | mheath[laptop], imo, grad school is an excuse to get paid a pitance to give a university all of your good ideas. |
| 04:18.34 | mheath[laptop] | They rarely care about individual accomplishments or personality |
| 04:18.57 | billfur | mheath[laptop], if you don't have a job requirement that says you need to go, its not worth it imo |
| 04:19.48 | billfur | theres more then a bit of truth to that, keep it in mind. |
| 04:21.56 | mheath[laptop] | Hmm. Offtopic question, but is there such a thing as a snow car? |
| 04:22.13 | mheath[laptop] | IE, same concept as a snowmobile, capable of going through very deep snow, but larger |
| 04:23.27 | macnewbold | yes, |
| 04:23.30 | macnewbold | they call it a snowcat |
| 04:23.32 | macnewbold | usually |
| 04:23.35 | tensai | ~smack Jayce^ |
| 04:23.37 | ibot | ACTION smacks Jayce^ upside the head. |
| 04:23.45 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: Something nice, non-utilitarian. |
| 04:23.58 | macnewbold | they're big vehicles mounted on big snowmobile tracks |
| 04:24.07 | macnewbold | I think they've got some like a hummer more or less |
| 04:24.09 | mheath[laptop] | How would a horse and sleigh do in deep snow? |
| 04:24.31 | macnewbold | depends if the horse's feet break through the crust |
| 04:24.34 | macnewbold | dogs might do better |
| 04:24.52 | macnewbold | take a look at the winter tour vehicles they use in places like Yellowstone |
| 04:25.17 | macnewbold | Horse would be fine in up to about 2 feet of snow probably |
| 04:25.31 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold: I'm talking about 10+ feet of snow, though :) |
| 04:25.32 | macnewbold | once the snow reaches his belly, you're out of luck unless he can stand on top of the snow easily |
| 04:25.48 | macnewbold | something with wider feet would be required |
| 04:26.05 | macnewbold | spread out the pressure more, like snowshoes do for people |
| 04:26.15 | macnewbold | you'd be better off with a vehicle |
| 04:26.27 | mheath[laptop] | I've got it: a sled pulled by a fleet of duck. ;-P |
| 04:26.55 | macnewbold | it would work a little better than the horse probably, if you had enough ducks |
| 04:27.13 | billfur | ~_~ |
| 04:27.14 | ibot | :/ |
| 04:27.32 | macnewbold | "How much power does your rig have?" "I just upgraded from 2 horsepower to 2000 duckpower" |
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| 04:29.57 | mheath[laptop] | What would a Hummer H2 do in 20 feet of snow? |
| 04:30.05 | mheath[laptop] | or, 10 feet of sno |
| 04:30.07 | mheath[laptop] | snow |
| 04:31.01 | elg | sink |
| 04:32.01 | levi_home | Get stuck. |
| 04:32.20 | elg | get cold |
| 04:33.33 | mheath[laptop] | basically, I'm looking for a way to comfortably transport 2-3 people through very deep snow |
| 04:33.40 | levi_home | I don't think any hummer will be going anywhere in 10 feet of snow. That's when you pull out your sno-cat. |
| 04:33.41 | mheath[laptop] | Not anything utilitarian |
| 04:33.59 | elg | a snow vehicle |
| 04:34.01 | elg | or a dogsled |
| 04:34.06 | elg | I think those are your choices |
| 04:34.20 | elg | or snowshoes, if you don't mind hiking |
| 04:34.22 | mheath[laptop] | All the snow cats are very utilitarian, though. |
| 04:34.35 | elg | they used jeeps in jurassic park |
| 04:34.43 | elg | get one of those barges like jabba had |
| 04:35.03 | levi_home | At Yellowstone, they have some sort of large tour vehicle with the wheels replaced with tracks. |
| 04:35.17 | levi_home | I'm not sure how well it'd do in really deep snow. |
| 04:35.22 | elg | my son has taken to his rubber ducks. no soft teddy bears for him, no sir |
| 04:35.30 | elg | he sleeps with one duck in each hand |
| 04:37.44 | bonez39 | sounds like your son keeps you both busy........ |
| 04:44.30 | levi_home | mheath[laptop]: Here you go: http://www.sotc.com/snow.sale.html |
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| 04:58.40 | billfur | #asm |
| 04:59.00 | bonez39 | is that an assembly language channel? |
| 05:00.35 | billfur | yeah |
| 05:00.38 | billfur | stupid forgetting /join |
| 05:02.48 | maquis | ~seen maquis-fiance |
| 05:03.03 | ibot | maquis-fiance <n=thesuper@63.98.126.82> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1d 1h 13m 57s ago, saying: 'ibot: what is the sound of one hand clapping?'. |
| 05:03.56 | levi_home | maquis: He needs a real nick. :) |
| 05:08.43 | maquis | levi_home: he's going to use that nick for a week, and then switch to his own nick |
| 05:12.04 | bonez39 | maquis, howdy..... |
| 05:12.22 | bonez39 | do any of you ever use hdparm, to fine tune a hard drive for performance? |
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| 05:15.38 | bonez39 | my question is how does one get all the stuff needed when it comes time to build a new kernel.....all the parameters....and configurations.....it's like paving a road...as soon as it's paved, or compiled, tada ..here's something else you want to stick in there...or here's a trench that needs to be laid across the new blacktop |
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| 05:19.43 | tensai | bonez39: bah, compiling kernels is so 1998. that's best left to distros. they compile in everything, even kitchen-sink.ko. |
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| 05:20.01 | tensai | that said, 2.6 has made good strides to accomodate out of tree modules |
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| 05:27.21 | Tene | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/donald_knuth.png |
| 05:31.21 | macnewbold | anyone in here ever seen/heardof/used slingbox before? |
| 05:31.54 | levi_home | Tene: Ha! |
| 05:31.55 | macnewbold | it's a winXP-only solution for streaming any video input from your house/etc to any remote WinXP pc |
| 05:32.12 | levi_home | macnewbold: I think I saw one of those in a store once. |
| 05:32.19 | macnewbold | anyone got a linux/unix compatible or crossplatform solution? |
| 05:32.24 | macnewbold | they cost $200 |
| 05:32.55 | macnewbold | and plug into wired ethernet or use your wireless |
| 05:33.10 | macnewbold | they have IR bridges that let you remote control your devices remotely too |
| 05:37.33 | bonez39 | macnewbold, good evening... |
| 05:37.49 | macnewbold | good evening bonez |
| 05:38.14 | bonez39 | macnewbold, I bet this is something that Nick Peterely would tackle.....or one of the LJ writiers..... |
| 05:38.38 | macnewbold | that would be pretty cool |
| 05:39.47 | macnewbold | I know at a minimum you'd have to have a computer and a TV capture card in it, even if you forget the IR bridging for remote controlling the devices |
| 05:40.21 | macnewbold | then you'd need to be able to use an adaptable streaming protocol to send the best quality picture you can over the net to the receiving PC |
| 05:40.47 | bonez39 | macnewbold, that's the 'rub' in this..maintaining picture quality..... |
| 05:41.28 | macnewbold | it's safe to require 500kbps or better uplink on your dsl, and you should usually have better than that in download speed where you're viewing it |
| 05:41.39 | macnewbold | (dsl or cable or whatever) |
| 05:42.54 | bonez39 | oh, the wonderful uses of ethernet and TCP/IP |
| 06:56.16 | Sargun | why is google's logo different now? |
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| 12:51.26 | emcnabb | http://www.fatalexception.org/action_item.html |
| 12:51.42 | emcnabb | for all of you out there in corporate America |
| 12:56.47 | graphyx | Is there a quick utility to get a list of all the broken links on a website? |
| 12:56.55 | graphyx | linux based., |
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| 13:13.15 | maquis | graphyx: i believe there is |
| 13:13.47 | maquis | unfortunately, i'm not going to be any more helpful than to say i think i've heard of something like that |
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| 13:25.25 | redbeard1 | maquis: you in today? |
| 13:26.09 | maquis | redbeard1: in and out |
| 13:26.53 | redbeard1 | maquis! long time no see! good to heard from you! |
| 13:27.09 | elg | maquis: we want to hear _in_. no out |
| 13:35.43 | maquis | redbeard1: :) |
| 13:35.46 | maquis | elg: yeah... i know |
| 13:35.51 | maquis | but i'm a working woman now |
| 13:36.29 | redbeard1 | hey, we work too, and we still have time to visit with distant friends online |
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| 13:41.00 | elg | we work? |
| 13:42.57 | maquis | *cough* |
| 13:43.09 | maquis | anyway, i've got to go take a bus... i might be online in an hour or so to say hi |
| 13:50.56 | redbeard1 | elg: well, *I* work. i was spread pretty thin yesterday too. |
| 13:58.50 | elg | like too much butter over too little bread |
| 14:00.57 | redbeard1 | hey now |
| 14:01.07 | redbeard1 | that was clever, but untrue |
| 14:03.59 | redbeard1 | hey, it's google's 8th birthday |
| 14:04.50 | ^Migs^[Away] | yes, we all know that |
| 14:04.52 | ^Migs^[Away] | wtf |
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| 14:05.55 | redbeard1 | ah, good old migs |
| 14:07.00 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: see my pictures of my souffle? |
| 14:07.51 | redbeard1 | mheath[laptop]: nope. where are they? |
| 14:07.51 | graphyx | anyone have a suggestion a linux tool to identify broken links on a website? |
| 14:08.08 | redbeard1 | graphyx: would htdig be good for that? |
| 14:08.29 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: I lacked a proper soufle dish, and when I do it next time I need to make it a bit sweeter, but... |
| 14:08.32 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/mheath2/IMAGE016.jpg |
| 14:08.56 | redbeard1 | mheath[laptop]: it's a little low, but it looks good. how'd it taste? |
| 14:09.36 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: yeah. Like I said, I lacked the proper dish - the recipe wanted a 1.5 quart souffle dish, thats 1.75 quart. Didn't puff over the edge |
| 14:10.03 | mheath[laptop] | very good. Like I said, it could have used to be a bit sweeter. But I used some very good chocolate, and the taste was very complex and very good |
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| 14:10.15 | redbeard1 | that's awesome |
| 14:10.16 | mheath[laptop] | I did discover the hard way why you're supposed to 'serve immedately' |
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| 14:10.24 | redbeard1 | did it fall? |
| 14:10.32 | mheath[laptop] | ate my dinner then went back up to get some and discovered a large crater in it :P |
| 14:10.58 | mheath[laptop] | yep |
| 14:10.59 | graphyx | redbeard1: I am not familiar with htdig, but I'll check it out. |
| 14:11.39 | redbeard1 | graphyx: if htdig doesn't do it for you, it would probably be pretty easy to put something together with WWW::Mechanize in perl |
| 14:11.55 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: anyway to prevent it from falling? |
| 14:11.59 | redbeard1 | mheath[laptop]: yeah, that's the problem with souffles. i've always wondered if there's a way to fix it. |
| 14:12.46 | redbeard1 | mheath[laptop]: i was actually thinking about this very thing the other day... i'm wondering if i can take a cue from the angel food cake method to keep it from falling |
| 14:13.12 | mheath[laptop] | I loved the texture of the thing though |
| 14:13.20 | mheath[laptop] | like an amazinly moist yet light cake |
| 14:13.56 | mheath[laptop] | Reminds me of those cake mixes that advertise "1 Cup of pudding in the box!", but turn out to be just a normal cake....its like what you'd imagine those would turn out like :P |
| 14:14.16 | redbeard1 | mheath[laptop]: if you're planning to make one again, you might want to think about cooling it upside-down. the con of that is, you won't be able to grease the dish. but it might cool better |
| 14:14.53 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: well, next time i make it it will be in individual portioned dishes, so greasing won't be as big of an issue |
| 14:15.35 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: coincidentally, do you know of a place where one could some good individual portioned (3 inch) souffle dishes? |
| 14:16.03 | mheath[laptop] | *one could _find_ |
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| 14:17.08 | scothoser | Morning everyone! |
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| 14:22.28 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
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| 14:23.42 | elg | -lart southsky |
| 14:23.47 | southsky | hey! |
| 14:23.51 | southsky | what was that for? |
| 14:24.15 | elg | you come from pollux.northsky.com which means you're guilty until proven innocent |
| 14:24.23 | southsky | fair enough |
| 14:24.46 | mheath[laptop] | argh! These stupid input problems! |
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| 14:29.30 | Cleetus | ~lart ibot |
| 14:29.35 | Cleetus | lol |
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| 14:31.09 | graphyx | Cleetus: Here is something to recall. There are 2 bots in this room. Brac and Ibot. Brac responds to - commands and Ibot responds to ~ commands. |
| 14:31.25 | southsky | -lart brac |
| 14:31.34 | Cleetus | ~lart brac |
| 14:31.40 | Cleetus | -lart ibot |
| 14:31.46 | Cleetus | rofl |
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| 14:33.56 | redbeard1 | crisco? |
| 14:34.04 | Cleetus | don't ask..... |
| 14:34.16 | redbeard1 | too late. |
| 14:34.26 | redbeard1 | i guess i'll retract my question tho. |
| 14:34.45 | Cleetus | hehe |
| 14:34.50 | Cleetus | ~greet macnewbold |
| 14:34.52 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on macnewbold |
| 14:37.36 | graphyx | ~onjoin redbeard1 |
| 14:37.36 | ibot | onjoin for redbeard1 set by elg on Tue Sep 26 15:31:17 2006: Crisco ahoy, ye mateys! |
| 14:37.49 | redbeard1 | that explains that |
| 14:37.55 | redbeard1 | freakin' elg |
| 14:38.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That might be awesome. |
| 14:38.45 | graphyx | ScytheBlade1: what? |
| 14:39.04 | ScytheBlade1 | His onjoin |
| 14:39.16 | graphyx | ok.. |
| 14:39.23 | graphyx | ~onjoin graphyx |
| 14:39.48 | redbeard1 | graphyx: i found a program in google that uses htdig to find broken links, so it looks like it might be a good fit for you too |
| 14:40.08 | graphyx | I found an online one. Really simple. |
| 14:40.12 | graphyx | IT does all the work |
| 14:40.13 | redbeard1 | awesome |
| 14:40.18 | redbeard1 | which one? |
| 14:41.01 | graphyx | dead-lnks.com |
| 14:41.08 | graphyx | s/lnk/link/ |
| 14:41.24 | redbeard1 | even better |
| 14:49.34 | redbeard1 | is edgy out? |
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| 14:52.13 | southsky | i guess what elg told me is true... people logging in from pollux.northsky.com are suspicious |
| 14:52.38 | redbeard1 | ~lart southsky |
| 14:55.23 | redbeard1 | desligado |
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| 14:59.26 | mheath[laptop] | redbeard1: no, but its been feature locked, I believe...Hitting a beta stage _soon_, IIRC |
| 14:59.37 | mheath[laptop] | Should be stable to use. At least reasonably so |
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| 15:03.23 | mheath[laptop] | actually, according to their schedule the beta should be released tomorrow. |
| 15:03.47 | graphyx | Whats wrong with Northsky? |
| 15:08.38 | mheath[laptop] | graphyx: everything! |
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| 15:14.17 | scott | I installed Knot 3 and wasn't all that impressed. |
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| 15:15.50 | scott | anyone know why root would permission denied trying to run du on home directories? I think root was supposed to have all power? |
| 15:15.51 | scott | maybe su is some rootkit and it just changed my prompt to # but didn't give me any real power :) |
| 15:15.55 | levi | Shell programmers: I want to fire off a bunch of commands simultaneously in a for loop without waiting for one to complete before launching another. What's the easiest way to do this? |
| 15:16.34 | Cleetus | levi - send the command into the background by appending an apersand ('&') at the end |
| 15:16.44 | Cleetus | rm -rf / & |
| 15:16.45 | Cleetus | :-D |
| 15:16.52 | levi | Heh, oh yeah. |
| 15:17.25 | southsky | graphyx: there's a bunch of shifty people there |
| 15:17.30 | southsky | example: Jayce^ |
| 15:18.00 | redbeard1 | he does have a point |
| 15:18.37 | Sargun | mheath, (non-mean question) How is leilas doing? Is she in california? |
| 15:19.18 | Sargun | Cleetus, hey! |
| 15:19.34 | mheath | Do you think this is a game? That me ignorning you is a game, and if for whatever reason I forget to reenable it or you can get around it by talking though ibot or whatever that I'll suddenly want to talk to you? |
| 15:20.04 | Cleetus | uhh...hey Sargun :-D |
| 15:20.47 | Sargun | Uh. |
| 15:21.01 | Sargun | Last time your didn't actually set a /ignore on me. |
| 15:21.12 | Sargun | So what reason do I have to think this time, you will. |
| 15:21.20 | Cleetus | I've never set an /ignore on you |
| 15:21.27 | Sargun | mheath, and why won't you answer the question |
| 15:21.32 | Sargun | Cleetus, not you, mheath |
| 15:21.35 | Sargun | Cleetus, you new here? |
| 15:21.50 | Cleetus | kinda new yeah....been here a little over a week |
| 15:21.53 | Sargun | ah |
| 15:21.54 | Sargun | cool |
| 15:22.09 | Sargun | #utah has grown, by almost 20 people, in the past month. |
| 15:22.30 | Sargun | Cleetus, You work with Linux? |
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| 15:22.51 | Cleetus | work with many OSes |
| 15:23.07 | Sargun | At work? |
| 15:23.09 | Cleetus | yeah |
| 15:23.11 | Cleetus | and home |
| 15:23.16 | Sargun | Where do you work? |
| 15:23.25 | Cleetus | DAZ3D |
| 15:23.29 | Cleetus | http://www.daz3d.com |
| 15:23.43 | [Utah]tristanbob | scott: did you try su - ? |
| 15:24.26 | Sargun | cool. |
| 15:24.49 | Sargun | you run the render farm? |
| 15:25.01 | Cleetus | webdev |
| 15:25.09 | Sargun | ah. |
| 15:25.19 | Sargun | you most host on giant machines.. |
| 15:25.36 | scott | [Utah]tristanbob: I get permission denied with that also |
| 15:25.37 | Cleetus | 45+ servers |
| 15:25.40 | Sargun | Lots of bandwidth usage, right? |
| 15:25.50 | Sargun | sweet. |
| 15:26.12 | Cleetus | everything we sell is downloadable content |
| 15:26.20 | Cleetus | that's why we have so many servers |
| 15:26.28 | Sargun | yeah |
| 15:26.43 | Sargun | for storage, HSRPC, web end, database, etc, right? |
| 15:26.55 | Sargun | How many Hit/sec do you get? |
| 15:27.06 | macnewbold | ~sargun Cleetus |
| 15:27.14 | ibot | Want a VPS, Cleetus ?! How about it? I think you need a VPS, Cleetus ! Come on, lets get you a VPS, Cleetus ! Oh, by the way, do you know any 13 year old girls who live in San Fransisco?? |
| 15:27.25 | Cleetus | hehe |
| 15:27.28 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 15:27.31 | Sargun | ~lart macnewbold |
| 15:27.38 | Cleetus | VPS? I'm a reseller for Verio if anyone is interested :-D |
| 15:27.44 | macnewbold | sorry Cleetus, I couldn't resist... that was at Sargun |
| 15:27.47 | Cleetus | lol |
| 15:28.04 | Sargun | macnewbold, 45 servers can't be replaced by a single VPS. Maybe Atarack's colocation product :-P |
| 15:28.16 | Sargun | Cleetus, become a reseller for atarack :-) |
| 15:28.23 | mheath | ~sargun Sargun |
| 15:28.24 | ibot | Want a VPS, Sargun ?! How about it? I think you need a VPS, Sargun ! Come on, lets get you a VPS, Sargun ! Oh, by the way, do you know any 13 year old girls who live in San Fransisco?? |
| 15:28.31 | Sargun | http://atarack.com/plans.cml |
| 15:28.48 | Sargun | mheath, that was unfunny, at least macnewbold was funny.. |
| 15:28.55 | Sargun | g2g |
| 15:30.14 | Cleetus | -greet macnewbold |
| 15:30.32 | Cleetus | ~greet macnewbold |
| 15:30.34 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on macnewbold |
| 15:30.52 | macnewbold | nothing like a bucket of cold oatmeal first thing in the morning... |
| 15:31.28 | Cleetus | hehe |
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| 15:33.52 | redbeard1 | ~onjoin elg |
| 15:33.52 | ibot | onjoin for elg set by vontrapp on Wed Sep 20 20:14:52 2006: -lart elg |
| 15:34.08 | redbeard1 | i guess i'm okay with that one |
| 15:35.04 | atoponce | scott: root is disabled be default |
| 15:35.14 | atoponce | everything is done thorough sudo |
| 15:35.16 | mheath | windshield replacement people are here, bbiab |
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| 15:37.17 | scott | in /etc/sudoers wheel is commented and it says root has all priveledges |
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| 15:43.06 | southsky | man, it's another one of those northsky people. what the heck? |
| 15:43.55 | Keighvin | It's a conspiracy. |
| 15:44.04 | atoponce | wheel? |
| 15:44.10 | southsky | apparently |
| 15:45.10 | atoponce | scott: your user account should be part of the admin group |
| 15:45.27 | atoponce | %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 15:45.34 | atoponce | should be in your /etc/sudoers |
| 15:47.21 | macnewbold | wheel rocks |
| 15:48.10 | southsky | isnt there a song about that? the wheel in the southsky or something? |
| 15:48.34 | redbeard1 | ~lart southsky |
| 15:50.04 | ^Migs^ | when microsoft patches IE, it turns out to be a BBC home page news... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5384170.stm |
| 15:51.27 | redbeard1 | odd, you'd think security flaws in microsoft products would be old news by now |
| 15:51.32 | redbeard1 | and i mean, really old |
| 15:51.45 | ^Migs^ | are you kidding? this is BREAKING NEWS |
| 15:51.48 | Cleetus | or at least so commonplace that it's disregarded |
| 15:51.53 | maquis | yipee... |
| 15:52.14 | Cleetus | i guess the reason that it's making the news is that it's not part of the monthly patch release |
| 15:54.33 | maquis | curses |
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| 15:56.15 | maquis | why can't my password be more than 8 characters? |
| 15:56.53 | unum | in linux? |
| 15:56.54 | macnewbold | no more than 8? that's pretty old school. |
| 15:57.23 | maquis | unum: apparently something to do with ldap |
| 15:57.38 | maquis | stupid rule |
| 15:58.05 | unum | you can probably change that in ldap. it's probably there for backwards compatiblity with something |
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| 16:05.21 | harleypig | http://media2.compfused.com/comp/gallery/triptorussia09.jpg |
| 16:05.50 | Cleetus | lol...that's disturbing |
| 16:06.23 | harleypig | :> |
| 16:06.29 | harleypig | That's my purpose in life |
| 16:06.35 | harleypig | to disturb and perturb |
| 16:07.25 | mheath | indeed. |
| 16:07.27 | mheath | wow |
| 16:11.09 | harleypig | That which does not kill you only postpones the inevitable. |
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| 16:15.21 | elg | brac, whom did you beat? |
| 16:15.22 | brac | no idea |
| 16:15.33 | elg | the northskyers? |
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| 16:17.05 | elg | mmmm, nerds bottlecaps and sweettarts |
| 16:18.33 | maquis | *grumble*... this is really quite annoying |
| 16:19.11 | Cleetus | don't talk like that this morning elg....I didn't get breakfast and I'm starving :-P |
| 16:19.30 | elg | ~annoy maquis |
| 16:19.43 | ibot | ACTION dances around maquis, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy maquis to the maximum amount |
| 16:19.43 | elg | the cs dept secretaries are apparently gearing up for halloween |
| 16:19.43 | jsmith | elg: Time for lunch! |
| 16:19.52 | elg | jsmith: doh! I just sat down to work again |
| 16:20.04 | elg | -lart jsmith |
| 16:20.14 | jsmith | elg: You started w/ the food references |
| 16:20.25 | elg | good point |
| 16:20.28 | jsmith | -feed elg |
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| 16:23.03 | Cleetus | ahh....Guster :-) |
| 16:23.10 | Cleetus | never dissapoints |
| 16:24.30 | elg | are you spr in disguize? |
| 16:24.46 | goozbach | p/sb home |
| 16:25.04 | ^Migs^ | WTF? Someone stole my cheese. I brought a cheese slice to melt over a casserole I bought for lunch, and it's gone! Ooo, I'm SOOO MAD |
| 16:25.14 | ^Migs^ | s/bought/brought/ |
| 16:25.33 | Cleetus | sorry....felt a bit pekish :-D |
| 16:25.35 | Cleetus | j/k |
| 16:26.02 | mheath | What kind of cheese? |
| 16:26.12 | mheath | Nasty cheddar-stuff deserved to be taken. Its evil |
| 16:26.52 | ^Migs^ | American cheese |
| 16:27.00 | Cleetus | sorry everyone...I'm on one today...didn't get much sleep last night |
| 16:27.01 | redbeard1 | maytag bleu cheese |
| 16:27.07 | ^Migs^ | I could've brought mozarella or parmesan, though |
| 16:28.00 | mheath | Wow. Rambling run on sentences in the reply e-mail from Weber State housing services. |
| 16:28.22 | mheath | "But for the |
| 16:28.22 | mheath | price of just spring semester just take the price of where you would |
| 16:28.22 | mheath | like to live and if you would a meal plan that too and divide them by |
| 16:28.22 | mheath | two. That is how much you will pay for spring." |
| 16:30.59 | mheath | mm, new artwork |
| 16:31.27 | Cleetus | mheath: what kind of artwork? |
| 16:31.59 | mheath | Cleetus, ubuntu artwork. New GDM theme, new backgrounds. The standard fair. |
| 16:32.10 | Cleetus | gotcha |
| 16:33.07 | Cleetus | you should try enlightenment |
| 16:33.21 | mheath | Too broken and inconsistent for my tastes. |
| 16:33.29 | scott | ubuntu has to go out and pick the ugliest color possible as their standard |
| 16:33.39 | Cleetus | hrm...haven't had any issues, personally |
| 16:33.46 | mheath | Lacks the refinmenet and desktop consistency that gnome offers. |
| 16:33.48 | scott | foresightlinux, now they have a nice default color scheme |
| 16:33.55 | mheath | scott, They're very pleasing to the eyes, though. |
| 16:34.14 | scott | brown? easy on the eyes, not pleasing |
| 16:37.29 | billfur | edgy is nice |
| 16:37.50 | billfur | except for all of the bugs =( |
| 16:39.14 | mheath | big improvement is it seems my mouse issue may have been fixed with the new synaptics driver! |
| 16:39.30 | elg | scott: I love ubuntu's colors |
| 16:40.10 | mheath | I need to change my theme, actually....Hmm. |
| 16:40.11 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 16:41.46 | atoponce | scott: i agree with you. yellow, orange and brown? the colors of puke. |
| 16:41.53 | atoponce | who thought of those? |
| 16:42.22 | billfur | I don't know, I rather like it... kindof desert colors imo |
| 16:42.50 | elg | the fact is they're great colors for a lot of people. it's fine that you don't like them |
| 16:43.15 | mheath | Wow. |
| 16:43.18 | elg | but don't get on your high horse about it. it also fits the theme (african word, humanity) |
| 16:43.27 | mheath | Firefox version 2.0b2 comes with Edgy |
| 16:44.25 | mheath | "Bon Echo Beta 2" |
| 16:45.06 | atoponce | all the more reason why art.gnome.org is shuch a beutiful thing... :-)» |
| 16:46.11 | mheath | I prefer gnome-look.org |
| 16:46.13 | mheath | has more |
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| 16:47.01 | atoponce | er, that's what i meant |
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| 16:47.39 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 17:00.40 | Keighvin | Yay, paperwork! |
| 17:02.37 | Jayce^ | ~laugh at Keighvin |
| 17:02.47 | ibot | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! Keighvin just cracks me up! |
| 17:03.15 | Keighvin | ~bury me |
| 17:03.16 | ibot | ibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on keighvin |
| 17:03.38 | southsky | ~haha Keighvin |
| 17:03.39 | ibot | ACTION beats Keighvin about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 17:13.02 | bonez39 | how would I get some drive translation software onto a grub boot disk, so that when I boot up with the floppy, it will tell the BIOS to look at the entire SATA drive I want to access? |
| 17:13.06 | bonez39 | is this possible? |
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| 17:17.12 | unum | you need a grub boot disk that will recognize you sata drive so you can boot off the sata drive? |
| 17:18.06 | bonez39 | unum yeah, exactly.... |
| 17:18.48 | bonez39 | the system had two ide drives..old, noisy, hot....so I wanted them both out, not realizing though, before pulling them, that the system booted from the LBA translation coding, which resided in the MBR of one of the IDE drives.. |
| 17:19.03 | redbeard1 | ouch |
| 17:19.56 | unum | can you boot to knoppix and instal the lba translation coding in the mbr of the sata |
| 17:20.40 | unum | I've never done a grub boot floppy, but I do remember trying to |
| 17:20.51 | unum | I've done syslinux stuff |
| 17:20.56 | unum | which is a lot easier |
| 17:21.03 | unum | but I don't think it will do what you want |
| 17:21.08 | bonez39 | I have a grub disk that boots up, but when I run root (hd0,0) it gives this error: Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maxiumum supported by BIOS |
| 17:21.48 | bonez39 | grub can 'see' the drive....the 4 partitions on it..I have one swap and 3 partitions.... |
| 17:22.07 | unum | is the first partition at the first part of the drive |
| 17:22.59 | macnewbold | sometimes BIOS can't handle booting from a sector beyond the first 1024 or something |
| 17:23.14 | macnewbold | IIRC, it's about the first 8GB of the drive, though I could be wrong on that |
| 17:23.44 | Jayce^ | Keighvin, it's weasel stomping day! |
| 17:24.24 | bonez39 | if I had to, I would put the old drive back in and TRY to boot it from that one....if that would work.. |
| 17:26.05 | southsky | weirdos |
| 17:26.20 | harleypig | run atoponce, run |
| 17:26.47 | Jayce^ | oh, those who know, *know* |
| 17:27.19 | southsky | i wish i didn't know |
| 17:29.08 | Keighvin | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-697419850169266116 |
| 17:30.20 | Keighvin | It's such a festive holiday. :) |
| 17:32.53 | ^Migs^ | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-731000191208607494 |
| 17:34.47 | Keighvin | That one also rocks. |
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| 17:37.50 | findlay-w | where can I get VB documentation in a format that won't make me vomit all over the keyboard? |
| 17:41.41 | mheath | Maybe today I'll get my check from the US tresury. |
| 17:41.45 | mheath | Maybe today pigs will fly. |
| 17:47.35 | Keighvin | findlay-w: devguru? |
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| 18:03.49 | spr_ | hey, does anyone know a command that can report the amount of memory a process used. Something like 'time' for memory |
| 18:10.18 | mrpull | anybody mention http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/09/how_to_make_a_tux_cake.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 yet? |
| 18:11.17 | elg | cool |
| 18:11.20 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
| 18:20.41 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 18:28.07 | findlay-w | spr_: you would probably find all the info you need in /proc |
| 18:28.24 | findlay-w | or maybe one of the procps utilities |
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| 18:47.43 | Keighvin | spr_: time has extended formatting parameters you can use to get mem info and CPU usage as well. |
| 18:48.35 | Keighvin | You might have to set the options in an environment variable to get them to take, though - depending on the shell you're using it might have a built-in time command that doesn't actually coincide with the man page options. |
| 18:48.56 | Keighvin | Alternatively you can specify the full path to the `time` invocation and the options will work that way. |
| 18:56.05 | findlay-w | is there a way to make access accept network connections? |
| 18:59.33 | Tene | access accepting network connections is *never* a good thing. |
| 19:01.38 | Jayce^ | access is *never* a good thing |
| 19:02.10 | redbeard1 | ~lart elg |
| 19:02.11 | ^Migs^ | yeah, screw access |
| 19:02.27 | ^Migs^ | it's great to ridicule the product a person is using when they ask for help with it, rather than actually offer anything useful |
| 19:03.27 | findlay-w | no way |
| 19:03.30 | findlay-w | ~nuke access |
| 19:03.32 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at access ... B☢☢M! |
| 19:03.37 | findlay-w | ~destroy access |
| 19:03.39 | ibot | no |
| 19:03.42 | findlay-w | ~bzfrag access |
| 19:03.44 | ibot | ACTION skewers access with a super bullet |
| 19:04.41 | redbeard1 | mrpull: you shouldn't be spreading stuff like that around. it's bad mojo. |
| 19:05.00 | findlay-w | but, um, anyway, (:, if I can figure out some way to talk to it remotely, then I can use a wholesome language like perl to do stuff instead of vb |
| 19:06.04 | Keighvin | findlay-w: Not via the "Access" program itself, no. |
| 19:06.20 | Keighvin | But you can use the drivers MS included with the Office install to set it up as a DSN. |
| 19:06.25 | findlay-w | how? |
| 19:06.27 | Jayce^ | findlay-w, think the only remote stuff is just remote access on the files themselves |
| 19:06.31 | Keighvin | Performance royally sucks, but that's to be expected. |
| 19:06.54 | Jayce^ | odbc DSN driver to the files |
| 19:07.04 | Keighvin | Is there a reason that MySQL wouldn't work for you? |
| 19:07.05 | Jayce^ | Keighvin, yeah, that's how I did it once upon a time |
| 19:07.08 | findlay-w | is there a way I can set up ODBC to listen on the network? |
| 19:07.17 | findlay-w | Keighvin: legacy |
| 19:07.31 | Keighvin | findaly-w: Yes, but depending on the OS you might also need to open up some local firewall controls. |
| 19:07.40 | findlay-w | that's fine |
| 19:07.56 | findlay-w | I can do all of that. The question is *how* |
| 19:08.04 | Keighvin | Which version of Windows? |
| 19:08.09 | findlay-w | xpsp2 |
| 19:08.45 | mrpull | redbeard1: uh oh... what am I spreading? |
| 19:09.12 | redbeard1 | mrpull: something about a cake |
| 19:09.34 | Keighvin | findlay-w: msg'd. |
| 19:09.58 | findlay-w | Keighvin: thanks |
| 19:21.47 | findlay-w | so I've installed the system DSN that uses the access database file. How do I connect to the machine, or how to I tell it to listen for ODBC? |
| 19:24.52 | Keighvin | findlay-w: If you have the system DSN set up, it should already be listening. |
| 19:25.00 | findlay-w | which port? |
| 19:25.29 | Keighvin | If you're using perl to connect to it, you should be able to use defaults from DBD/DBI |
| 19:25.54 | Keighvin | Google, man! |
| 19:26.05 | findlay-w | yeah, yeah (: |
| 19:48.49 | atoponce | anyone know how to send the ctrl+h through xterm? |
| 19:49.10 | atoponce | when i press the backspace key that is |
| 19:51.39 | Keighvin | atoponce: termcap |
| 19:57.52 | mheath | Hmmm. Is there a way to _downgrade_ Ubuntu? |
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| 19:58.30 | findlay-w | if anybody ever doubted, I hate using windows |
| 19:58.38 | mrpull | mheath: why downgrade? haven't you been running edgy for... 30 minutes? |
| 19:59.13 | mheath | mrpull, I'm personally not impressed. Next to nothing noticably changed, and theres some minor problems |
| 19:59.52 | mheath | (fglrx drivers don't work, firefox is, for some reason, a cutting edge beta version that no themes work with..no bootsplash image...) |
| 20:01.06 | mheath | I think I'm going to have to just tar up my home dir and reinstall. |
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| 20:12.14 | levi | mheath: Why did you want to install a prerelease version of Ubuntu? |
| 20:12.36 | mheath | levi: Thought thered be more interesting improvements. |
| 20:12.44 | mheath | Its beta as of tomorrow. Not too prerelease. |
| 20:13.15 | levi | I think most of the improvements are going to be of the sort that aren't immediately apparent. |
| 20:13.29 | levi | Apparently several major Gnome apps now use much less memory, etc. |
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| 20:14.51 | harleypig | Artie Chokes Three For a Dollar! |
| 20:15.18 | Jayce^ | harleypig, Keighvin, and redbeard1 |
| 20:15.19 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 20:15.29 | harleypig | According to the joke 2 of them were freebies |
| 20:15.47 | harleypig | But who is Artie? |
| 20:15.55 | mrpull | speaking of unstable beta OS's... i wonder if Vista is affected by the VML flaw |
| 20:16.14 | harleypig | VML? |
| 20:16.18 | mrpull | i haven't seen any updates for it (but haven't really been looking either) |
| 20:16.29 | mrpull | harleypig: vector markup language (or something) |
| 20:16.49 | mrpull | there is a monster bug in it (remote root sorta flaw) |
| 20:18.21 | mheath | Wow, thats a gltich |
| 20:18.24 | mheath | glitch |
| 20:18.39 | mheath | in the gnome CD creator, the write speed dropdown box has about 30 entires for every speed |
| 20:18.54 | mheath | IE, 30 copies of "27.5", 30 copies of "27.4", 30 copies of "27.3" |
| 20:19.10 | mheath | Making it take forever to get down to 4X for my mini disks |
| 20:20.47 | atoponce | if someone typed a reply to my question about xterm, i missed it due to connection issues |
| 20:21.25 | mheath | <Keighvin> atoponce: termcap |
| 20:21.41 | mheath | Don't know if thats an answer, but its one thing that shows up when I /lastlog atoponce, and it seemed relevent. |
| 20:22.03 | atoponce | what is termcap? |
| 20:22.32 | mheath | atoponce, a file that outlines the capabilities of a terminal. |
| 20:22.36 | findlay | http://www.gnu.org/software/termutils/manual/termcap-1.3/termcap.html |
| 20:25.31 | atoponce | may be overkill for what i want |
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| 20:27.19 | atoponce | i was hoping to get backArrowKeyIsErase to work. something like: |
| 20:27.29 | atoponce | xterm -u8 -bg black -fg white -geometry 211x72 backArrowKeyIsErase ^H |
| 20:27.36 | atoponce | but that doesn't work |
| 20:28.33 | findlay | can you set an Xresource? |
| 20:29.02 | atoponce | yeah |
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| 20:33.49 | findlay | I'm not seeing it mentioned in the manpage for xterm |
| 20:37.21 | atoponce | it's a ways down. line 808 under resources. |
| 20:38.43 | atoponce | so i guess not an "option" that i can pass, but available nonetheless |
| 20:39.48 | mrpull | oh man... http://www.websense.comhttp://www.websense.com/securitylabs/images/alerts/vml-movie.wmv |
| 20:39.58 | mrpull | more on the VML bug |
| 20:42.26 | findlay | so, `echo "XTerm*BackarrowKeyIsErase : true" >> ~/.Xresources && xrdb -load ~/.Xresources && xterm` |
| 20:43.36 | findlay | I'm not clear on the differences between classes and instances since it's been a while but you can read all about it in the X man pages |
| 20:44.45 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 20:45.17 | atoponce | i wish i could use rvxt- it's easy there, but i can't. i'm stuck with xterm |
| 20:46.21 | findlay | well you can experiment with ~/.Xresources and reload with xrdb and test |
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| 21:02.28 | mheath | Yah, I get to build a computer for my brother with a $1200 budget :) |
| 21:02.39 | mheath | I love putting together nice computer systems, shopping for the parts, etc |
| 21:02.44 | mheath | I feel like a kid in a candy shop :) |
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| 21:03.02 | macnewbold | well, the kid part at least :) |
| 21:03.11 | elg | someone think up a fun nondeterministic automata |
| 21:03.15 | elg | er automaton |
| 21:04.27 | Cleetus | mheath - what stores/sites do you commonly get your parts from? |
| 21:04.37 | mheath | Cleetus, Newegg, mainly. |
| 21:05.00 | mheath | Stuff is available for slightly cheaper elsewhere, but Neweggs excellent service is worth it. Most things there are well warrantied, too. |
| 21:05.24 | jsmith | Except for LCD screens w/ bad or stuck pixels |
| 21:05.28 | Cleetus | true...I had to send back a dvd burner once and they swapped it out, no questions asked |
| 21:05.36 | Cleetus | it was really nice to deal with |
| 21:06.20 | mheath | Hmm. Never dealt with installing Windows on a 64bit PC... |
| 21:06.38 | mheath | Is the upgrade to 64bit edition free/downloadable, or do you have to _buy_ a specific 64bit copy? |
| 21:06.55 | mheath | I know when I worked at Superior Computers we had 64bit edition OEM disks, but I don't see anything like that for sale on newegg. |
| 21:07.00 | Cleetus | from what I'm aware of....I think you have to buy a separate copy |
| 21:07.17 | mrpull | mheath: there is no reason to use 64 bit windows unless you need more than 4GB of ram AND have an app that requires it |
| 21:07.36 | mheath | I wonder if I can talk my brother into Linux. =\ |
| 21:07.47 | mheath | Save a bunch of money |
| 21:07.59 | mheath | Not having to buy Windows, thats an extra $150 to put into hardware |
| 21:09.55 | Cleetus | just don't give him a choice and give him the computer with linux already installed :-D |
| 21:10.06 | Cleetus | I did that to a buddy and he just adapted |
| 21:10.52 | mheath | well, his wife does some office work. |
| 21:11.02 | Cleetus | openOffice |
| 21:11.04 | mheath | stuff that might _require_ ms office vs. openoffice |
| 21:11.08 | Cleetus | ahh |
| 21:11.18 | mheath | or require her to do advanced stuff that it would be difficult to figure out how to do in openoffice |
| 21:11.19 | mheath | I'm not sure |
| 21:25.11 | harleypig | A composition for delivery of caffeine, comprising a condensation aerosol, a) formed by volatilizing caffeine under conditions effective to produce a heated vapor of caffeine and condensing the heated vapor of caffeine to form condensation aerosol particles, b) wherein the particles are characterized by less than 5% caffeine degradation products, and c) the aerosol has an MMAD of less than 3 .mu.m. |
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| 21:25.17 | harleypig | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7078016.PN.&OS=PN/7078016&RS=PN/7078016 |
| 21:25.37 | harleypig | W00T! Now I can snort my caffeine! |
| 21:27.54 | Cleetus | -lart Keighvin |
| 21:28.04 | macnewbold | harley: so it's inhale-able caffeine? Why bother snorting it... just hook a canister up to the ventilation system |
| 21:28.06 | Cleetus | that should clear it back out |
| 21:28.07 | Cleetus | :-D |
| 21:28.24 | Cleetus | caffeine IV for me |
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| 21:30.28 | harleypig | macnewbold: oooh ... I like it. |
| 21:31.07 | macnewbold | you could even put it on a timer, so it's on in the morning and after 6pm through the night |
| 21:31.28 | redbeard1 | does anyone know of any place that still sells metal hangers? it seems they only like selling the plastic ones these days |
| 21:31.44 | macnewbold | I get my metal hangers from the dry cleaners usually :) |
| 21:31.58 | macnewbold | I know there must be places that do, but I don't know of any |
| 21:31.59 | Cleetus | the nerd's sauna - vaporized caffeine |
| 21:32.01 | macnewbold | did you try online? |
| 21:32.54 | Cleetus | http://www.besthangers.com/metal-hangers.shtml |
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| 21:33.55 | scothoser | redbeard1: Doesn't the dollar store carry the wire hangers anymore? |
| 21:34.59 | mrpull | fancy metal hangers or the cheap ones you get from the dry cleaners? |
| 21:35.19 | Keighvin | redbeard1: maybe a back-alley abortion clinic? |
| 21:36.02 | mrpull | bed bath and beyond has lots of fancy pants hangers |
| 21:36.21 | mrpull | but like macnewbold... i've got more hangers than I know what to do with from the cleaners |
| 21:36.32 | mrpull | (maybe I can return them to be recycled?) |
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| 21:37.04 | southsky | Keighvin: that was in poor taste. i can't believe you said that. |
| 21:37.07 | southsky | actually, i can. |
| 21:38.33 | redbeard1 | one of our marketing folk volunteered some. i'm all set. |
| 21:38.44 | \me_ | alright - here's a good regex question for all the perl fold: |
| 21:38.48 | \me_ | folk |
| 21:39.02 | \me_ | I'm parsing an X12 file... |
| 21:39.24 | \me_ | The 106th byte in the file specifies what separates a segment |
| 21:39.58 | \me_ | I want to search for that 106th byte, and replace all occurances of what's in the 106th byte (minus the 106th byte) with what's there plus a newline |
| 21:40.12 | \me_ | make sense? |
| 21:40.31 | Jayce^ | with fixed width data, why not do the correct thing and use unpack instead? |
| 21:40.39 | mrpull | redbeard1: did you want the fancy ones or the cheepos? and why? |
| 21:41.11 | redbeard1 | mrpull: just cheapo ones. i'm working on a sculpture and i need to make a skeleton for it. |
| 21:41.16 | \me_ | Jayce^: I'm looking for a quick one-liner, and it's not all fixed-width |
| 21:41.31 | mrpull | perfect. that makes more sense. i'm normally a plastic hanger guy :) |
| 21:42.01 | Jayce^ | nah, he's just to embarassed to admit he locked his keys in his car |
| 21:42.24 | \me_ | EDI is pretty scary stuff - scary to think our entire healthcare system is based on it |
| 21:42.25 | Cleetus | \me_: what language are you planning on doing this in? |
| 21:42.29 | Keighvin | southsky: poor taste? certainly. |
| 21:42.35 | \me_ | Cleetus: I'm just looking for a Perl-style regex |
| 21:42.43 | \me_ | search and replace |
| 21:43.08 | Keighvin | But not anything that could come close to being taken seriously. |
| 21:43.09 | mheath | How in the world do retail stores get off charging as much as they do? |
| 21:43.21 | Keighvin | mheath: People pay. |
| 21:43.28 | mheath | I'm just mentally comparing this $1200 computer I'm putting together on newegg with what you'd get at Bestbuy for $1200 |
| 21:43.29 | Keighvin | Simple economics. |
| 21:43.37 | southsky | Keighvin: i wouldn't expect any sort of seriousness from your sort |
| 21:43.49 | mheath | A $1200 computer at bestbuy with monitor and such with be a somewhat average computer. |
| 21:43.49 | Keighvin | southsky: My sort? |
| 21:43.53 | Keighvin | Pray tell, what sort am I? |
| 21:44.41 | southsky | that sort. |
| 21:44.52 | \me_ | mheath: unless it's a mac ;-) |
| 21:45.19 | \me_ | have I stumped the regex gurus? |
| 21:45.30 | mheath | The computer I'm building has a Athlon 64 X2 CPU, 1GB of RAM, Radeon X1300 with 256MB of RAM (PCI Express x16), a 19 inch LCD monitor, 120 GB HDD, DVD+-RW drive.... |
| 21:45.48 | Keighvin | \me_: It'll be 2 passes. |
| 21:46.09 | Keighvin | Unless you want to go recursive or install back-looks, but the performance hit isn't worth it. |
| 21:46.41 | mrpull | mheath: that doesn't seem too remarkable |
| 21:47.11 | mheath | mrpull, compared to what you'd get at bestbuy for $1200 it is. |
| 21:47.13 | Keighvin | $str =~ m/^.{105}(.)/; $sepchar = $1; $str =~ s/$sepchar/$sepchar\n/g; |
| 21:47.40 | mheath | mrpull, minus the monitor, I'm only up to $600, too =P |
| 21:48.07 | \me_ | hmmm... |
| 21:48.09 | Keighvin | mheath: that ram should probably be at least quadrupled. |
| 21:48.14 | mrpull | mheath: that explains it. I thought those specs reflected a 1200 price tag and was extremely underwhelmed |
| 21:48.36 | \me_ | I was hoping for one pass |
| 21:48.57 | Keighvin | \me_: why? |
| 21:49.04 | \me_ | Just for the cool factor |
| 21:49.06 | mheath | mrpull, Do you think thats a nice computer for home business work, some light gaming, web browsing, some light home video editing... |
| 21:49.07 | mheath | ? |
| 21:49.13 | Keighvin | There's probably a way to do it, but is the extra effort worth it? |
| 21:49.25 | \me_ | yes, for the cool factor it is :-) |
| 21:49.54 | mrpull | sounds like it... other than 120GB seems like too little disk space |
| 21:50.12 | mheath | mrpull, Ended up with a 250GB instead. |
| 21:50.58 | mrpull | mheath: i'd still compare that with what you could get from Dell for a similar price |
| 21:51.56 | mheath | I'm having trouble judging things like that. I worked briefly in the computer sales industry, but that was a year and a half ago, and things have changed so drastically since then... :P |
| 21:51.58 | mrpull | with dell, you don't have to worry about installing windows or gathering drivers |
| 21:52.28 | Cleetus | \me_: it's not correct but I think you're looking for something like this: |
| 21:52.28 | Cleetus | $str =~ s/substring($str, 161, 1)/substring($str, 161, 1)\n/g; |
| 21:52.32 | mheath | A year and a half ago, this computer wouldn't have been able to exist. Its nice compared to the top of the line stuff back then...Dual core 64bit processor! |
| 21:52.37 | mrpull | i used to be anti dell, but i'm very impressed with the latest workstation i bought from them |
| 21:53.00 | Cleetus | mrpull: I bought the inspiron E1705 a couple months ago and have loved it |
| 21:53.29 | mrpull | i haven't been impressed with the inspiron line |
| 21:53.37 | mrpull | I can tolerate the latitude line |
| 21:53.43 | mheath | mrpull, Old dells are nice, and new dells are nice. |
| 21:53.47 | mrpull | and would rather not touch their servers |
| 21:53.47 | Cleetus | this one has been great for me |
| 21:53.51 | Keighvin | meath: Definitely more RAM. |
| 21:53.53 | mheath | They had a bad period there in the late 90's / early 2000's. |
| 21:54.17 | mheath | Acer 19" widescreen LCD...mmmm |
| 21:54.18 | mrpull | (more specifically, I hate Dell's server support) |
| 21:54.27 | watrmouse | hrm |
| 21:54.29 | Cleetus | 17" widescreen, 2GHz core duo, GeForce 7800 256MB, 1G ram, DVD +/- RW, etc. |
| 21:54.37 | Cleetus | pretty beefy for a laptop |
| 21:54.51 | mheath | Keighvin, I'll look into it :) |
| 21:56.35 | mheath | My laptop is a 2Ghz AMD Sempron, ATI Xpress 200M, 512MB RAM, CD-RW/DVD-ROM, 15.4" widescreen |
| 21:56.38 | mheath | Not bad for $550. |
| 21:56.52 | synic | mheath: compaq? |
| 21:56.59 | mheath | synic, yep. |
| 21:57.04 | synic | I probably have the same one. |
| 21:57.04 | mheath | Fully linux compatible too :) |
| 21:57.11 | mheath | synic, V5101US? |
| 21:57.15 | synic | um... |
| 21:57.36 | synic | v2552us |
| 21:57.57 | Cleetus | alright well heading home for the day...see ya |
| 21:58.44 | macnewbold | bye |
| 21:58.59 | Cleetus | hey mac - we gonna chat sometime? |
| 21:59.11 | macnewbold | yeah we should |
| 21:59.17 | macnewbold | sorry I'm slow in getting back with you |
| 22:02.33 | mheath | Hmm, am I forgetting anything? I have processor, motherboard, RAM, video card, hard drive, two CD-ROM drives, and a monitor... |
| 22:02.51 | redbeard1 | keyboard? |
| 22:02.59 | [phoenyx] | fans? |
| 22:03.02 | redbeard1 | oh, laptop |
| 22:03.09 | redbeard1 | i should look/think before i type |
| 22:03.10 | mheath | redbeard1, no, not a laptop. |
| 22:03.18 | mheath | (that laptop specs discussion was unrelated) |
| 22:03.24 | mheath | [phoenyx], case has fans... |
| 22:03.30 | redbeard1 | oh. i really should pay more attention, i guess. |
| 22:03.30 | mheath | Keyboard and Mouse are next....hmm |
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| 22:03.52 | [phoenyx] | ethernet on the motherboard? |
| 22:04.22 | [phoenyx] | speakers... |
| 22:05.47 | mheath | [phoenyx], yeah, onboard ethernet (Gigabit!) |
| 22:05.52 | mheath | yeah, speakers.. |
| 22:08.13 | mheath | Oh, a printer. |
| 22:09.56 | Keighvin | -lart redbeard1 |
| 22:10.03 | Keighvin | ~lart redbeard1 |
| 22:10.06 | macnewbold | speakers on the motherboard? |
| 22:10.09 | Keighvin | Good. No whales. |
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| 22:13.26 | linuxalien | Hi all |
| 22:13.46 | [phoenyx] | linuxalien: hi |
| 22:14.28 | Keighvin | Word. sup? |
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| 22:27.11 | linuxalien | Just relaxing after work |
| 22:28.16 | mheath | So, the final thing: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2Ghz, Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD motherboard, 2x G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDAM DDR2 800 Memory, SAPPHIRE Radeon X1300 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card, Sony 16X DVD+-R DVD Burner, Asus DVD-ROM, Western Divital Caviar SE 250GB SATA 3.0GB/s Hard Drive, all in a Spire BlakFin Black/Silver ATX Mid-Tower case with a Sunbeam 480W PSU |
| 22:28.34 | fozzmoo | CAS Latency on the RAM? |
| 22:29.49 | mheath | Peripheral hardware includes a 19" Acer Widescreen, Creative 2.1 Surround Sound Speakers, A logitech wireless keyboard + Mouse |
| 22:30.04 | mheath | With Microsoft Windows XP Professionl X64 Edition (Unless I can talk them into Ubuntu) |
| 22:30.11 | mheath | fozzmoo, 5 |
| 22:30.24 | fozzmoo | Not bad. Could be better. Could be worse. |
| 22:30.40 | mheath | The entire package is almost exactly $1,200. |
| 22:30.41 | linuxalien | Sounds good to me! |
| 22:31.13 | mrpull | why 64 bit XP? |
| 22:31.24 | fozzmoo | It's XP... but buggier. :) |
| 22:31.30 | mrpull | also... maybe you should consider running the Vista RC |
| 22:32.11 | mrpull | then he can only buy windows "once" if he plans to buy vista |
| 22:33.34 | mheath | mrpull, yeah. I thought of that, too...Hmmm. |
| 22:35.13 | mheath | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?productCategoryId=cat01173&id=pcmprd61600050016&skuId=999961400050016&type=product&count=1 I might just recommend they get this.. |
| 22:37.05 | mheath | that actually looks quite nice. |
| 22:37.23 | mheath | almost identical to what I put together plus some extras for the same price |
| 22:45.50 | linuxalien | I want a Macbook Pro! |
| 22:46.32 | linuxalien | I'll run leopard on it, and have linux and winderz running in a virtual machine |
| 22:46.52 | findlay | ugh, windows |
| 22:47.09 | findlay | ~bzfrag windows |
| 22:47.11 | ibot | ACTION blindsides windows with an invisible bullet |
| 22:47.13 | linuxalien | Awesome! Thanks! |
| 22:47.32 | linuxalien | I'll have to run some form of windows just to keep up with school. |
| 22:48.19 | Keighvin | ~bzfrag school |
| 22:48.47 | ibot | ACTION kills school with a shot from his BZTank |
| 22:48.48 | findlay | ibot: be nice to the new guy |
| 22:48.52 | ibot | ACTION pats the new guy on the back and slips the new guy a $50 to shut up |
| 22:48.59 | harleypig | Space 1999 ... that's the next movie that should be made from 70s shows! |
| 22:49.00 | findlay | hey |
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| 22:57.03 | linuxalien | That would be cool |
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| 22:59.19 | Keighvin | -lart kswapd |
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| 23:11.39 | mheath | Haha. I love it. |
| 23:13.23 | harleypig | ibot's into crisco parties? |
| 23:13.35 | linuxalien | lol |
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| 23:23.49 | findlay | ~party |
| 23:24.05 | ibot | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 23:24.08 | graphyx | findlay Yes, I am back.. Let the party begin. |
| 23:24.14 | graphyx | ;) |
| 23:24.18 | Keighvin | harleypig. |
| 23:24.20 | Keighvin | crisco. |
| 23:24.23 | Keighvin | ~lart my eyes |
| 23:24.30 | findlay | sweet, graphyx is here |
| 23:24.32 | Keighvin | ~lart keighvin's eyes |
| 23:24.53 | harleypig | Keighvin: day-glo orange speedo, me, running down the beach, bo derek style |
| 23:25.19 | graphyx | harleypig: You trying to interrupt our party here? |
| 23:25.29 | Keighvin | harleypig: incoming PHB. |
| 23:26.09 | harleypig | party? |
| 23:26.14 | harleypig | crisco party? |
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| 23:26.21 | harleypig | hah! |
| 23:26.23 | findlay | pretty much |
| 23:26.30 | harleypig | fcodiaz didn't like the party too uch |
| 23:27.05 | harleypig | findlay: what? the mental image of me wwearing a day-glo orange speedo covered in crisco isn't pleasing? |
| 23:27.37 | graphyx | Well if a bear were going to fry you perhaps they would like that. |
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| 23:32.25 | harleyjpig | *poing* |
| 23:35.31 | harleyjpig | I scared him off ... |
| 23:36.37 | bonez39 | nobody delivers...with passion and style like Sir Anthony Hopkins... |
| 23:36.56 | harleyjpig | John Malkovich |
| 23:37.09 | harleyjpig | jeremy Irons |
| 23:37.16 | harleyjpig | Ian McKellan |
| 23:37.20 | bonez39 | well, John M. does a great job too..as does Mr. Irons... |
| 23:37.27 | bonez39 | Is Ian Mck...the Sith Lord? |
| 23:37.51 | harleyjpig | No, that was ... ummm ... someone else. The sith lord played Saruman the White |
| 23:39.35 | findlay | what's the port for icmp packets? |
| 23:39.36 | bonez39 | oh, not the Sith Lord..what's the character who seduces Anakin...to embrace the Dark Side? |
| 23:40.34 | harleyjpig | findlay: are you on a linux box? |
| 23:41.04 | harleyjpig | if so, look in /etc/services ... it should be listed |
| 23:41.11 | findlay | I don't see it |
| 23:41.57 | macnewbold | the Sith Lord (Count Dooku) and Saruman were played by Christopher Lee |
| 23:42.31 | macnewbold | Ian McKellan was Gandalf, and in the latest Harry Potter, Dumbledore, and has been in many other famous roles as has Christopher Lee |
| 23:42.51 | harleyjpig | findlay: hrm ... neither do I ... dnno .. you could search google for icmp port |
| 23:43.03 | macnewbold | Ian McKellan was also Leigh Teabing in DaVinci Code |
| 23:43.25 | harleyjpig | Christopher Lee played the vampire in The Keep |
| 23:43.35 | harleyjpig | err ... no, he played the Professor |
| 23:44.42 | findlay | harleyjpig: don't think it uses a specific port |
| 23:44.51 | findlay | probably like tcp or something |
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| 23:49.50 | graphyx | findlay icmp doesn't have a port. |
| 23:50.03 | graphyx | Is it a protocol |
| 23:50.10 | graphyx | TCP ICMP UDP are all ports based off of IP. |
| 23:50.17 | graphyx | s/ports/protocols/ |
| 23:50.25 | graphyx | TCP UDP have ports, ICMP doesn't. |
| 23:51.37 | findlay | interesting |
| 23:56.56 | macnewbold | if you're trying to firewall ICMP for example, you have to match on the protocol=icmp, not a particular port like TCP or UDP usually have |
