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| 00:15.37 | EpP | i second that |
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| 00:23.24 | Tene | Sargun: what exactly do you want in terms of linux/bonjour interaction? |
| 00:23.50 | Tene | avahi works great for me. |
| 00:24.37 | Sargun | Chat. |
| 00:24.44 | Sargun | and IP auto-assignment |
| 00:25.45 | mheath | Wow. OSUOSL is giving me download speeds of 1.1-1.5 MB/s. |
| 00:27.47 | Tene | Sargun: get a bonjour plugin for your IM client |
| 00:27.51 | Tene | gaim-bonjour works well |
| 00:27.55 | Sargun | hm |
| 00:27.57 | Tene | dunno about support in other IM clients. |
| 00:28.20 | Sargun | does that work through avahi> |
| 00:28.25 | Sargun | or through mdnsresponder? |
| 00:28.48 | Tene | avahi, I believe. |
| 00:29.10 | Sargun | cool |
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| 00:33.53 | mheath | hmm. Time for dinner. |
| 00:34.06 | mheath | Not sure what to go get, though. |
| 00:34.35 | Tene | I suggest pine. |
| 00:35.04 | mheath | Does anyone have any suggestions on a movie to rent? |
| 00:35.42 | Tene | what sort of movie? |
| 00:36.04 | mheath | Something common enough that I can rent it from blockbuster. |
| 00:36.10 | mheath | But...anything, really. |
| 00:36.20 | Tene | Waking Ned Devine |
| 00:40.46 | Sargun | Brick |
| 00:53.35 | mheath | be back later, running to the store |
| 00:59.43 | graphyx | i love huckabees? |
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| 01:04.06 | Sargun | i heart huckabees was a horrible movie. |
| 01:06.57 | graphyx | It did have its moments. |
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| 01:34.27 | mheath | This is rediculous |
| 01:34.31 | fozzmoo | I agree. |
| 01:34.46 | mheath | last time I tried to purchase a move and download it from amazon.com, download speeds were at around 700 KB/s |
| 01:34.58 | mheath | Took about an hour to download the movie |
| 01:35.07 | EpP | Thats about what i get all the time |
| 01:35.13 | mheath | This time, 147 KB/sec, and the movie is twice as long. |
| 01:35.29 | EpP | whats your connection speed? |
| 01:36.07 | mheath | EpP, They're the bottleneck, not me. I was just downloading stuff from OSUOSL at 1.5 MB /sec. |
| 01:36.30 | mheath | I have residental comcast. Speeds spike at 1.5 MByte / sec |
| 01:36.45 | EpP | hmm... shoulda dled in the morning. |
| 01:36.55 | fozzmoo | Oh man, I remember when I had @Home back in the day and got 30MB/sec at times. |
| 01:37.55 | EpP | fozzmoo, ? |
| 01:37.59 | EpP | @home? |
| 01:38.18 | fozzmoo | @Home is the great-grandaddy to Comcast. |
| 01:38.27 | fozzmoo | Before it was Comcast, it was AT&T Broadband |
| 01:38.31 | fozzmoo | And before that, it was @Home |
| 01:38.55 | EpP | how much was it back in the day? |
| 01:39.06 | mheath | That would be...Grandaddy. Not Great-Granddady |
| 01:39.12 | mheath | AT&T Broadband was daddy. :) |
| 01:39.23 | fozzmoo | I may have forgotten one. :) |
| 01:39.27 | mheath | Thats all relative to what area you're in, too |
| 01:39.33 | mheath | Comcast was the first thing in some areas |
| 01:40.38 | mheath | I swear, there is nothing in this world BETTER than malted milkshakes. |
| 01:41.49 | EpP | malted milkshakes and a cheeseburger. |
| 01:41.55 | EpP | i win. |
| 01:42.35 | mheath | Malted Milkshakes and a PIZZA! |
| 01:42.57 | mheath | No, wait |
| 01:42.57 | EpP | i lose. |
| 01:43.43 | mheath | There is nothing in this world better than NOT having to wake up to "LIGHTS, LIGHTS, LIGHTS! GET YOUR LAZY _____ OUT OF THE RACK. 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, YOU SHOULD BE (DONE, SIR!)" |
| 01:44.20 | EpP | man, ur seriously mesesd up now. |
| 01:44.27 | EpP | messed* |
| 01:44.30 | mheath | Which is slightly better than NOT having to drink huge amounts of water until you vomit as punishment. |
| 01:45.12 | mheath | And having to dump out ones gear on said vomit because a Drill Instructor decided that the perfect moment for a gear check would be immediately after said vomit inducing water drinking. |
| 01:45.55 | mheath | EpP, I'm a half baked United States Marine. |
| 01:46.09 | mheath | Didn't make it all the way through the cooking process :P |
| 01:46.19 | EpP | i have heard. |
| 01:46.28 | EpP | So hows the knee? |
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| 01:46.48 | mheath | Horrible today. I had the fun experience of helping someone that I really hate move furniture up 3 flights of stairs. |
| 01:47.01 | mheath | Initially, when I first injured it, I could barely walk on it |
| 01:47.18 | mheath | Now, it just feels stiff and really unstable....and doing things like heavy lifting up stairs provoke the condition. |
| 01:48.47 | EpP | im sure. Do they have you on any painkillers? |
| 01:51.29 | mheath | EpP, Nah. My condition right _now_ doesn't warrant them at all. |
| 01:51.37 | mheath | Its just stiff and feels very unstable. |
| 01:51.41 | mheath | Theres usually no pain. |
| 01:52.52 | mheath | Ready to watch in 02:58:35 |
| 01:52.54 | mheath | :( |
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| 02:00.50 | EpP | i sucessfully got my irc bot eworking thanks to atoponce. |
| 02:01.41 | mheath | ...Please tell me Dapper06 isn't your bot. |
| 02:01.46 | mheath | 606 |
| 02:04.48 | EpP | no |
| 02:05.25 | mheath | Ah. |
| 02:05.39 | mheath | Theres a bot someone has in the #oalug channel. I know someone said something about him being broken... |
| 02:06.15 | mheath | Given that it started singing the Oscar Meyer song in the channel, if that was the bot you were talking about, I was about to say.."For some definitions of 'working'....." |
| 02:06.34 | EpP | nah mine is in #epfiles |
| 02:06.38 | mheath | Hmm. I have a question. Will student loans and such cover off-campus housing? |
| 02:06.59 | findlay_ | student loans are like free money |
| 02:07.11 | findlay_ | except you have to pay it back later |
| 02:07.36 | mheath | So, assuming that I'm attending college full time, I can use money from student loans to pay for an off-campus apartment? |
| 02:07.46 | findlay_ | certainly |
| 02:08.09 | findlay_ | you can use it to pay for that date with that girl you're always wanted |
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| 02:14.52 | vontrapp | ~onjoin elg -lart elg |
| 02:14.52 | ibot | ok, vontrapp |
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| 02:19.29 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 02:19.48 | vontrapp | hah! beat you |
| 02:20.02 | findlay_ | that reminds me, I haven't tried any new window managers lately |
| 02:20.47 | findlay_ | is there one called hypertension? |
| 02:21.55 | elg | probably |
| 02:22.00 | elg | if not you can write it |
| 02:22.17 | elg | try this one http://fvwm-crystal.org/ |
| 02:22.20 | findlay_ | sweet, my own window manager that roxorz |
| 02:22.29 | vontrapp | i think i'll write one called portholes |
| 02:24.06 | mheath | The amazon download rate keeps _dropping_ too |
| 02:24.20 | mheath | so even though its making progress, the time until ready to watch keeps getting longer |
| 02:36.52 | findlay_ | potholes? |
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| 02:42.45 | mheath | <mheath> Ready to watch in 02:58:35 |
| 02:42.48 | mheath | I said that ages ago |
| 02:42.58 | mheath | Ready to watch in 03:09:32 |
| 02:46.02 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 02:46.34 | levi_home | Woo, I just ordered a 1gb of RAM and a 150gb hd for my home computer with my birthday money. |
| 02:50.33 | mheath | Now: Ready to watch in 03:08:15 |
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| 02:51.13 | linuxalien | more memory rocks |
| 02:52.13 | mheath | ~lart amazon.com |
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| 02:52.31 | beandog | ? |
| 02:52.32 | beandog | que pasa |
| 02:52.46 | findlay_ | ~hug gentoo |
| 02:52.47 | ibot | ACTION hugs gentoo |
| 02:52.50 | mheath | Well, My movie is now officially not going to be ready until after midnight. |
| 02:52.58 | findlay_ | see? ibot loves gentoo |
| 02:53.07 | linuxalien | hehehe |
| 02:53.12 | linuxalien | hi beandog |
| 02:53.22 | beandog | linuxalien: lo lo |
| 02:53.36 | beandog | heh |
| 02:53.37 | findlay_ | mheath: why are you even bothering with that amazon thingy? |
| 02:53.42 | beandog | what movie? |
| 02:53.45 | beandog | the downloadable kind? |
| 02:53.51 | mheath | yes. |
| 02:53.54 | beandog | meh. |
| 02:53.57 | beandog | use ... rhapsody's |
| 02:54.00 | beandog | whatever they call it. |
| 02:54.05 | mheath | findlay_, I was going to give it one more try |
| 02:54.07 | beandog | Youll get today's top never-before-heard-of flicks |
| 02:54.12 | beandog | all 73 of them. |
| 02:54.17 | mheath | Of course, last time I used it I download 7 times faster than I am right now. |
| 02:54.22 | linuxalien | hehe |
| 02:54.25 | beandog | And the speed is incredible, because youre the only one using it! |
| 02:54.45 | mheath | The speed keeps getting SLOWER, too. |
| 02:54.45 | findlay_ | I like well seeded torrents |
| 02:54.54 | mheath | I was at 176 KB/sec earlier |
| 02:55.00 | mheath | now I'm at 133. |
| 02:55.13 | findlay_ | the multiple connections seem to get through the isp's traffic shaping much better |
| 02:57.21 | mheath | hmmm, now the speed is climbing. |
| 02:57.25 | mheath | STOP PLAYING GAMES WITH ME. |
| 02:57.42 | findlay_ | hehe |
| 02:57.45 | findlay_ | ~game mheath |
| 02:58.41 | findlay_ | ~mheath mheath |
| 02:58.43 | ibot | ACTION impresses mheath into the US military. Serve your country, dang it! |
| 02:58.55 | mheath | gah. |
| 02:59.03 | mheath | that was just mean :( |
| 02:59.07 | findlay_ | ~mheath ibot |
| 02:59.08 | ibot | ACTION impresses ibot into the US military. Serve your country, dang it! |
| 03:00.14 | findlay_ | ~Tene ibot |
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| 03:04.39 | beandog | hmm |
| 03:04.46 | beandog | Its times like this I wish I had a Doris Day CD |
| 03:07.20 | beandog | now aint that a kick in the head? :) |
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| 03:26.41 | mheath | Now it's down to 00:46:16. |
| 03:26.52 | mheath | With my luck, the download rate will probably drop to 1 KB/s |
| 03:27.06 | mheath | Then it will be......20:55:00 |
| 03:40.34 | levi_home | Why are you still trying to watch movies with Amazon's service? |
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| 04:00.08 | mheath | Meh, thought I'd give it one more try out of good faith. |
| 04:00.30 | mheath | If this fails or is a negative experience (as the download rate suggests it will be), then I'll never use it again and try to impress on others how bad it is. |
| 04:01.01 | mheath | Time to retire to my room, though. Good evening. |
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| 04:13.45 | mheath[laptop] | This player tries to buffer the movie...That is, download enough of it that it thinks it can let you start watching and download fast enough that you never run out of video |
| 04:13.54 | mheath[laptop] | The problem is, the download rate keeps changing |
| 04:14.14 | mheath[laptop] | And the timer is horrible inaccurate. It will drop off 2 seconds for every 4 seconds of actual time |
| 04:14.30 | mheath[laptop] | I'm worried it's going to stop my movie, halfway through. |
| 04:18.11 | levi_home | I'm not sure that downloadable movies are quite ready for the masses yet. |
| 04:19.16 | levi_home | Poor Steve Dibb, moving from PHP to C++. I see much pain in his future. |
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| 04:20.20 | mheath[laptop] | I've decided to start work on an X-Chat clone in more elegantly portable Java with some feature enhancements of my own. |
| 04:20.32 | mheath[laptop] | I've undertaken a lot of projects..... |
| 04:20.43 | mheath[laptop] | Things that grow out of preportion and I never complete |
| 04:21.05 | mheath[laptop] | I wanted something simpler and more managable, something I'll actually finish. |
| 04:22.42 | mheath[laptop] | the most notable feature is the addition of a ghost client daemon. That is, you can run the ghost client daemon on a reliable server......then configure your client to connect to this ghost client daemon rather than directly to a server, and your backlog will be populated with conversations as if you had never left the channel. |
| 04:25.07 | mheath[laptop] | Plus, I'd like to have just one .jar to take around with me, rather than having to deal with X-Chat and GTK and such from system to system. |
| 04:33.46 | mheath[laptop] | I also want to eventually work oon a theme interface. I'm tired of the mundane generic look and feel of IRC clients. |
| 04:34.42 | levi_home | Or you could run screen and irssi on a Linux box somewhere. But that sounds like a more reasonable idea than most of yours, though still a pretty big undertaking. |
| 04:35.12 | mheath[laptop] | levi_home, yeah :) |
| 04:35.26 | mheath[laptop] | irssi is fine, but users who want a graphical client really can't do the screen thing. |
| 04:35.31 | levi_home | IRC is text. What are you going to do, add cartoon bubbles and avatars? |
| 04:36.09 | mheath[laptop] | levi: No. I'd like users and themers to have more control over the GUI of an IRC client. |
| 04:36.19 | mheath[laptop] | For the purpose of desktop integration and customization |
| 04:37.24 | mheath[laptop] | anyway, I'm going to head to sleep. I'll watch my movie tomorrow, I guess. |
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| 06:21.37 | Sargun | Anyone tracking atlantis? |
| 07:43.54 | Sargun | Anyone tracking atlantis? |
| 07:43.59 | Sargun | ~atlantis |
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| 12:45.39 | goozbach | Sargun: I'm waiting for the dvds to come out. |
| 12:45.42 | goozbach | :) |
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| 13:46.04 | graphyx | goozbach: I'll donate - $5. (Hopes he doesn't do sanity checking..) |
| 13:58.04 | goozbach | donate? |
| 13:58.06 | goozbach | oh yeah |
| 13:58.08 | goozbach | ok |
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| 14:00.03 | goozbach | make the check or money order to my charity: Children Against Sjansen's being a Hostage |
| 14:00.15 | goozbach | or C.A.S.H. |
| 14:00.48 | goozbach | http://www.bash.org/?331258 |
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| 14:07.09 | graphyx | ~destroy Cleetus |
| 14:07.10 | ibot | no |
| 14:07.17 | Cleetus | MWAHAHAHA |
| 14:07.21 | Cleetus | ~lart graphyx |
| 14:08.15 | graphyx | ~say -lart Cleetus |
| 14:08.16 | ibot | -lart Cleetus |
| 14:08.56 | goozbach | ~funkybomb sjansen's captors |
| 14:08.57 | ibot | ACTION blows away sjansen's captors in a psychedelic flash |
| 14:08.58 | graphyx | That would be my famous cascade lart. |
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| 14:17.51 | Sargun | goozbach,no, the shuttle |
| 14:20.35 | elg | -lart goozbach |
| 14:21.06 | goozbach | Sargun: the puddle jumpers? |
| 14:21.10 | Cleetus | God invented SCO so that we'd have something to hate more than Micro$soft |
| 14:21.26 | goozbach | or one of the X-305's |
| 14:21.27 | goozbach | ? |
| 14:24.00 | Sargun | ? |
| 14:27.52 | Sargun | Anyone tracking the space shuttle? |
| 14:28.13 | Cleetus | still up there |
| 14:31.09 | Sargun | doubtful: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts115/060921landing/ |
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| 14:32.01 | Cleetus | haven't got around to the news today |
| 14:38.07 | goozbach | Sargun: the "X" desigination is for black projects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_projects) |
| 14:38.29 | Sargun | yeah |
| 14:38.35 | Sargun | puddle jumpers was the ? |
| 14:39.05 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puddle_jumper_(Stargate) |
| 14:39.24 | Sargun | oh |
| 14:39.54 | goozbach | I'm mixing my mythologies |
| 14:41.44 | Sargun | ah |
| 14:41.51 | Sargun | ~lart goozbach |
| 14:42.10 | Sargun | I really should take advantage of my web proxy |
| 14:42.13 | Sargun | datamine it |
| 14:42.47 | Sargun | SCHOOLQ! |
| 14:42.50 | findlay | ~proxy Sargun |
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| 14:51.39 | mheath[laptop] | Well, that sucks. |
| 14:51.43 | mheath[laptop] | ~lart Amazon.com |
| 14:52.06 | mheath[laptop] | ~lart Amazon.com |
| 14:52.31 | mheath[laptop] | IT RIPPED ME OFF, AGAIN. |
| 14:52.41 | elg | sounds ready to put netflix out of business |
| 14:53.45 | mheath[laptop] | what makes me the maddest is, they refuse to give me a refund for this |
| 14:53.58 | mheath[laptop] | I've paid for TWO MOVIES that I never watched, that I cannot watched |
| 14:54.06 | levi | mheath[laptop]: It was rather silly of you to pay money again to a service that ripped you off and wouldn't refund your cash. |
| 14:54.15 | mheath[laptop] | I wasted Gigabytes of my bandwidth to download them |
| 14:54.44 | mheath[laptop] | Yet, all they tell me when I call them up is how they're WORKING TO FIX THE ISSUE and how much amazon.com values their customers! |
| 14:54.53 | tensai | so I got another netflix movie yesterday. came just like it always does. played in my dvd player even. |
| 14:55.09 | levi | Imagine that. |
| 14:55.36 | elg | there's still no bandwidth like a truck |
| 14:55.45 | levi | Indeed. Latency's a killer, though. |
| 14:55.50 | tensai | I fear (the good kind of) that drm will be its own executioner |
| 14:55.53 | elg | yup |
| 14:56.06 | elg | i agree |
| 14:57.10 | elg | people's tolerance/interest in your product is inversely proportional to the DRM surrounding it |
| 14:57.13 | elg | or will be |
| 14:57.20 | levi | I wrote to Sen. Bennett about DRM issues. |
| 14:57.21 | tensai | cory doctorow's speech to microsoft on drm explains it quite well |
| 14:57.36 | levi | He even replied. |
| 14:57.39 | elg | link? |
| 14:57.46 | tensai | hang on |
| 14:57.52 | mheath[laptop] | elg, it's not excessive DRM. Just makes sure you don't rip them off. |
| 14:58.00 | elg | riiight |
| 14:58.04 | tensai | http://www.craphound.com/msftdrm.txt |
| 14:58.04 | elg | that's why you can't watch what you payed for |
| 14:58.27 | mheath[laptop] | elg, The DRM isn't the issue. |
| 14:58.35 | mheath[laptop] | Their player is a piece of crap, thats the issue |
| 14:58.37 | tensai | s/don't/do/; s/you/they/; s/them/you/; |
| 14:58.46 | mheath[laptop] | It spends hours downloading the movies, then seems to delete them. |
| 14:58.51 | tensai | "Just makes sure they do rip you off" |
| 14:58.57 | mheath[laptop] | IE, they're not on the hard drive. Not in the download location. |
| 14:59.00 | levi | mheath[laptop]: They only have their own player because of the drm. Thus, drm is the issue. |
| 14:59.15 | mheath[laptop] | levi: No, its wmv DRM. |
| 14:59.19 | mheath[laptop] | they're wmv files |
| 14:59.25 | levi | Your failure to see this is disturbing. |
| 14:59.26 | Jayce^ | so, even with the 'reality tv' angle, who thinks they could find this interesting... http://www.armchaircommandos.com/ |
| 14:59.35 | mheath[laptop] | They have their own player to look cool and facilitate big downloads. |
| 14:59.47 | Jayce^ | our team has been helping with this some |
| 15:00.13 | mheath[laptop] | Just, their player is unfortunately a broken piece of crap |
| 15:00.19 | tensai | did you see that Microsoft's new Zune player apparently won't support DRM WMA and WMV? |
| 15:00.31 | elg | oh yeah? |
| 15:00.38 | mheath[laptop] | that, like I said, spends nearly 24 hours downloading a 2.5 GB file only to delete it when it reaches 100% completion |
| 15:00.39 | Jayce^ | tensai, wonderfully fitting I thought |
| 15:00.55 | Jayce^ | they even suggested a way to get around the drm :) |
| 15:01.03 | tensai | let's compare and contrax Unbox with Bittorrent, shall we? |
| 15:01.27 | mheath[laptop] | tensai, I don't break the law, sorry. |
| 15:01.41 | levi | ... |
| 15:01.50 | levi | One can use bittorrent without breaking the law. |
| 15:02.06 | mheath[laptop] | levi: To download linux distributions and open source applications. |
| 15:02.11 | tensai | let's use ctrlaltchicken as an example |
| 15:02.19 | mheath[laptop] | No one uses bittorrent to distribute commercially purchased applications or media. |
| 15:02.21 | Jayce^ | you see that osx should have bittorrent built into leopard... |
| 15:02.40 | Jayce^ | people have been commenting about it's usage in updates, and media |
| 15:02.41 | levi | Or, conceivably, to download DRM-laden files. If they're locked down with DRM already, why not? |
| 15:03.03 | mheath[laptop] | tensai, You need a jar opener. (Not a very funny joke, but I try...) |
| 15:03.06 | Jayce^ | tensai, only will work if you don't use it as a lever |
| 15:03.23 | Jayce^ | mheath[laptop], you want to bet (re no one using bittorrent for media) |
| 15:03.26 | Jayce^ | quite a few do |
| 15:05.04 | Supaplex | m00 |
| 15:06.12 | tensai | http://www.otisproductions.com/Harlan_McCraney/harlan.html |
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| 15:43.42 | rsimpkins | Wasn't there talk a while back about using the Intel chip ID with DRM in some fashion? Did that get axed as a legitimate way to protect things? |
| 15:44.12 | rsimpkins | Oh, and according to ibot I ask a lot of questions. I will try to includ more statements when I talk. |
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| 15:44.49 | emcnabb | we need a corporate policy about burning food in breakroom microwaves |
| 15:46.13 | Keighvin | I need to increase the buffer on this thing, I didn't get the whole nights' scrollback. |
| 15:46.32 | mheath | mmm. Download Speed: 1.4 MB/s |
| 15:46.46 | mheath | The beautiful thing is, I don't think its even supposed to technically spike that high |
| 15:46.54 | mheath | its just residential comcast. |
| 15:47.53 | mheath | rsimpkins, Just phrase your questions like "I demand that someone tell me how to ______." |
| 15:48.04 | mheath | ibot will still love you. |
| 15:49.39 | mheath | OK, so.... |
| 15:49.42 | mheath | Install gentoo |
| 15:49.45 | mheath | Upgrade to GCC 4.1.1 |
| 15:49.53 | mheath | Set global ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" |
| 15:50.07 | mheath | then, upgrade to the latest everything |
| 16:03.06 | levi | Hmm, what sort of video chat software works well for connection between Linux and Windows? |
| 16:04.16 | Keighvin | levi: gnomemeeting might do the trick. |
| 16:05.35 | Keighvin | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 16:05.46 | Keighvin | 'nuke'. How generic. |
| 16:05.53 | Keighvin | What kind of warhead? What yield? |
| 16:05.55 | Keighvin | pfft. |
| 16:06.49 | Jayce^ | ~funkybomb Keighvin |
| 16:06.50 | ibot | ACTION blows away Keighvin in a psychedelic flash |
| 16:07.00 | Jayce^ | ~travolta Keighvin |
| 16:07.01 | ibot | ACTION replaces Keighvin with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 16:07.12 | Jayce^ | ~cook Keighvin |
| 16:07.13 | ibot | ACTION throws Keighvin in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks Keighvin on 350 for an hour |
| 16:07.45 | Keighvin | Travolta? wtf? |
| 16:08.48 | Jayce^ | ~whaleslap Keighvin |
| 16:08.50 | ibot | ACTION beats Keighvin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 16:10.31 | Jayce^ | we're safe, he's out watching his wife get an ultrasound |
| 16:10.50 | emcnabb | mheath: how is the job hunt going? |
| 16:11.46 | Keighvin | mheath: Do you have a resume online somewhere? |
| 16:11.57 | Keighvin | I have loads of contacts, and want to make sure I toss you the ones that'll be worthwhile. |
| 16:17.53 | mheath | emcnabb, well, it's changed a bit |
| 16:18.03 | mheath | Originally I was looking for professional jobs in the greater SLC area |
| 16:18.13 | mheath | now, it looks like I'll be attending college full time |
| 16:18.26 | emcnabb | good choice (in my opinion) |
| 16:18.28 | mheath | So I'll probably just be looking for something minor and part time in the local Ogden area |
| 16:19.17 | macnewbold | college is definitely the way to go |
| 16:19.31 | mheath | My dad's offered to let me continue to stay with him, I have a college savings fund, and I want to mainly focus on my studies....I just need a little bit of occasional spending money |
| 16:20.04 | Keighvin | No, by all means - it's a great way to go. |
| 16:20.13 | macnewbold | in 5-6 years you'll be much further ahead by having done college than just having gone straight into the work force, almost definitely |
| 16:20.15 | Keighvin | I just have a somewhat.... different personal history, shall we say. |
| 16:20.37 | mheath | macnewbold, Indeed. |
| 16:20.39 | Jayce^ | Keighvin, that's *one* way to put it :-p |
| 16:20.50 | mheath | Plus, my goal is to work on rehabilitating and strengthening my knee over the next few years |
| 16:20.52 | Keighvin | ~travolta Jayce^ |
| 16:20.53 | ibot | ACTION replaces Jayce^ with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 16:21.04 | mheath | So that after I get my degree, I can go into a reserve component of the mliitary as an officer. |
| 16:21.16 | emcnabb | I've seen that a college degree helps get the interview, and your experience gets you the job |
| 16:21.23 | mheath | emcnabb, indeed. |
| 16:22.34 | Keighvin | When I was a hiring manager at AN EVIL PLACE I met a lot of Stanford grads who could talk at great length about tying their shoes, as it were. |
| 16:22.49 | Keighvin | But when pressed, were unable to actually perform the tying themselves. |
| 16:23.10 | Keighvin | I should say, spoke at length about the "*process* of tying one's shoes" |
| 16:23.32 | Keighvin | Get the education by all means, but get consulting and/or OSS work under your belt too. |
| 16:23.56 | mheath | Indeed. |
| 16:24.06 | mheath | My grandpa was a perfect example of that. |
| 16:24.31 | mheath | He went to college for chemistry at Colorado A&M (Now Colorado State) |
| 16:25.04 | mheath | Got a job working for an oil company in California, in a very minor position. A lab assistant, essentially. |
| 16:25.16 | mheath | But, in his spare time, he did endless amounts of research on the modernizing of gasoline chemistry and processing techniques |
| 16:25.35 | mheath | To the point where he became one of the companies main chemists. |
| 16:25.43 | mheath | What you do with your spare time makes all the difference. |
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| 16:29.09 | mheath | I plan to work on a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science with a teaching endorsement and a minor in asian studies. :) |
| 16:32.23 | harleypig | Extremely cool pic of the shuttle and the space station: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html |
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| 16:35.29 | TimRiker | :) |
| 16:35.44 | TimRiker | creator is strong though... Chris made it. I just took it over. |
| 16:36.42 | Keighvin | There isn't a good verb mash cum adjective for that. |
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| 16:42.15 | levi | Man, I just want to get streaming video from this Windows laptop to a Linux box, but it's not easy. |
| 16:44.36 | Keighvin | Are you using videolan? |
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| 16:45.09 | levi | I tried videolan, but it doesn't work very well with Windows ME. |
| 16:45.43 | Keighvin | EW! ME?! |
| 16:45.58 | Keighvin | cel://SyncOrbit/Earth/2006-09-22T09:27:49.78515?x=DVhNq3g8w4fNDA&y=HCKm/bIC5f///////////w&z=389FWs8r/Ds&ow=0.018907&ox=0.701617&oy=-0.018648&oz=0.712059&track=Sol&select=Sol&fov=7.666690&ts=1.000000<d=0&rf=38787&lm=0 |
| 16:46.07 | Keighvin | Celestia URL for tomorrow's annular eclipse. |
| 16:47.02 | levi | It would be far more trouble than it's worth to put anything else on this old machine, since it has no CDROM drive and very little RAM. |
| 16:47.20 | Keighvin | 98 SE would still outperform that ME travesty. |
| 16:47.33 | mheath | Indeed. |
| 16:47.37 | levi | You wanna spend all day installing it for me? Be my guest. |
| 16:47.47 | mheath | I still consider 98 SE to be my favorite Windows version |
| 16:47.48 | Keighvin | Drop off the box and I will. |
| 16:47.53 | levi | I've tried it before, and getting all the drivers and everything was nontrivial. |
| 16:47.53 | Keighvin | I hate to see something suffer like that. |
| 16:48.22 | Keighvin | That there's one of the best drivers you could ever use on Windows. |
| 16:48.46 | mheath | levi: That's the pain in the butt part. Say what you will about Linux hardware support - the fact remains that if it is supported, you don't have to spend all day searching across the internet for obscure drivers like you do with windows. |
| 16:49.32 | mheath | Plus, hardware manufacturers seem to insist on making their drivers support only an exact instance/revision/etc. of the hardware, rather than support the chipset |
| 16:50.09 | mheath | Meaning that you can find a driver that should in every way be compatible with your hardware, but they've purposely disabled support for you because your chip isn't on the OMGOURMAINBOARDISSO31337-Rev3 motherboard |
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| 16:51.24 | elg | hah. โany person can invent |
| 16:51.26 | elg | a security system so clever that she |
| 16:51.29 | elg | or he canโt think of how to break it.โ |
| 16:51.42 | elg | ~microwave emcnabb |
| 16:52.06 | emcnabb | ~slice_the_throat_of elg |
| 16:52.52 | mheath | ~make_up_bizzare_commands_relating_to_the_death_of emcnabb |
| 16:53.26 | harleypig | ~go_out_in_blaze_of_glory_taking_all_of_the_internet_with_you |
| 16:53.48 | Keighvin | Harley, if anybody I know can do that it just might be you. |
| 16:53.49 | elg | ~implode |
| 16:53.50 | ibot | ACTION implodes |
| 16:54.20 | mheath | ~it harleypig |
| 16:54.22 | ibot | So we want to be stupid, right, harleypig ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop! |
| 16:54.43 | harleypig | pphhht |
| 16:55.16 | Keighvin | Um... Harley? |
| 16:55.28 | Keighvin | What exactly is a 'pphhht' ? |
| 16:55.29 | harleypig | No, that woulda been 'pfft' |
| 16:55.44 | harleypig | It is sometimes spelled as "phbbbbt" |
| 16:55.58 | Keighvin | I see. |
| 16:56.11 | harleypig | But pphht is made by doing the same thing but keeping the tongue in the mout |
| 16:56.13 | harleypig | yh |
| 16:56.22 | harleypig | wow ... that was a wierd typo |
| 16:56.28 | mheath | It is the sound a harleypig makes when reacting to being IT'd, despite the fact that he is now old and fat. |
| 16:56.29 | mheath | :) |
| 16:56.44 | harleypig | Hey!! I'm not old! |
| 16:57.07 | Keighvin | Not 42 at least. |
| 16:58.56 | mheath | yah, my first appt with my orthopedic doctor is tomorrow |
| 16:59.31 | harleypig | Keighvin is a libidinist! |
| 17:00.33 | harleypig | Of course, I am too ... |
| 17:01.18 | Jayce^ | Keighvin, you're close enough to harleypig to know that when he goes pphht... it's "danger danger danger".. |
| 17:01.20 | Keighvin | I'm wondering where you get your intel... |
| 17:01.39 | Keighvin | Jayce^: Nothing tops that "holy crap" stall in the bathroom though. |
| 17:02.09 | Jayce^ | true, true |
| 17:02.17 | mheath | Are harleypig, Jayce^, and Keighvin all in the same place? |
| 17:02.17 | mheath | Scary. |
| 17:02.21 | Jayce^ | mheath, among others |
| 17:02.49 | Keighvin | I think I found my Christmas present: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/833d/ |
| 17:02.53 | mheath | Where is this mysterious place? |
| 17:03.42 | mheath | Odd. My laptop's PCMCIA isn't supported by Linux. |
| 17:04.24 | Jayce^ | Keighvin, pbowen used to fly his larger one around where you are sitting now, before those cubes were up |
| 17:04.31 | Keighvin | We're right here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.320234,-111.681224&spn=0.00308,0.006781&t=k&om=1 |
| 17:05.19 | Keighvin | I might bring it in the office every now or then, but I doubt it would be very useful in terms of ordnance delivery. |
| 17:05.38 | Keighvin | I have a fantastic house for it though, large open spaces and some phenomenal vaulted ceilings. |
| 17:05.45 | Jayce^ | Keighvin, no, you're there, I'm about 50' WNW from you :) |
| 17:06.10 | Jayce^ | Keighvin, you remember the view off my deck :) go overfly the neighbors :) |
| 17:06.31 | Keighvin | The thing's next to useless in moving air. |
| 17:06.49 | Keighvin | Which is why I'll also have to avoid harleypig's cube if it makes an appearance here. |
| 17:07.00 | Jayce^ | dont' forget the gravity effect around him |
| 17:07.29 | mheath | O.o |
| 17:09.41 | mheath | You people are....odd. And that's coming from me, the broken, half-cooked, not-quite-a-Marine. :) |
| 17:13.29 | harleypig | http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/video/88e0/ |
| 17:14.07 | Keighvin | Oh great, now I've got everybody browsing ThinkGeek. |
| 17:14.11 | Jayce^ | just what you need harleypig , I can just see you now tripping out in your chair |
| 17:14.20 | harleypig | :> |
| 17:14.24 | harleypig | That would be so cool |
| 17:14.25 | Keighvin | Although if I was ever going to go wearable, that's just the HMD I'd get. |
| 17:14.42 | harleypig | speaking of which, Keighvin what was that url you gave me in retaliatoin for pointing you to bash.org? |
| 17:14.53 | harleypig | I lost it somewhere and havne't had a chance to look at it. |
| 17:15.03 | Keighvin | That's the most affordable one I've seen in a long time, especially for one supporting SVGA & multi-field video. |
| 17:15.16 | Jayce^ | harleypig, wtf is " retaliatoin" :) |
| 17:15.30 | Keighvin | It's a drug that makes you focused on being nervous. |
| 17:15.56 | Keighvin | I like the blend between RC & HMD: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/87e6/ |
| 17:16.20 | harleypig | wow ... I don't think I've ever heard of 'diphallic terata', and I've heard (and seen) a *lot* |
| 17:17.40 | harleypig | oooo ... hook that up to the goggles ... |
| 17:17.46 | Keighvin | That was a bit random there, harl. |
| 17:17.55 | harleypig | I'm nothing if not random |
| 17:18.07 | Keighvin | Oh, and the link I sent you was a product that exists purely, I think, for its unstated perversity: |
| 17:18.12 | harleypig | which one, the 'ooooo' or the diphallic comment |
| 17:18.25 | Keighvin | http://www.bananaguard.com |
| 17:18.37 | Keighvin | You and your teratic anatomy. |
| 17:20.13 | harleypig | :D That's funny |
| 17:20.25 | harleypig | erm ... I didn't say *I* had that ... |
| 17:20.32 | Keighvin | Right. |
| 17:20.45 | Keighvin | Dream on, sir. |
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| 17:24.01 | harleypig | floccinaucinihilipilification |
| 17:26.01 | Keighvin | Umkay... |
| 17:26.13 | Keighvin | So what is it that you are deeming or describing as worthless? |
| 17:29.33 | harleypig | The comment itself was floccinaucinihilipilificatic |
| 17:29.47 | harleypig | (I have no idea if that was the correct form) |
| 17:29.57 | Keighvin | And the thesaurus too, hand those over. |
| 17:30.02 | Keighvin | I don't think you deserve them. |
| 17:32.04 | harleypig | Hmmm ... do you suffer from hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia? |
| 17:32.38 | harleypig | Does anyone around here suffer from pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconioses? |
| 17:34.58 | harleypig | I didn't even hear it coming. |
| 17:35.17 | Keighvin | Despite the advanced warning here. |
| 17:36.13 | harleypig | Had a different window open |
| 17:41.06 | redbeard1 | Keighvin: you talkin' smack about me? |
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| 17:43.42 | Keighvin | I just wanted to avoid the pun-fest resulting from various whale-names. |
| 17:51.57 | atoponce | bitlbee rocks! |
| 17:52.04 | atoponce | i think i've fallen in love |
| 17:54.12 | emcnabb | ***atoponce 'N bitlbee 4ever*** |
| 17:55.35 | atoponce | :-)ยป |
| 17:55.39 | Jayce^ | just think, you too can use the same client that harleypig uses (is that a pro or a con) |
| 17:55.56 | emcnabb | ***atoponce 'N bitlbee 'N harleypig 4ever*** |
| 17:56.29 | atoponce | ok.... that's uh.... yeah... |
| 17:56.35 | goozbach | ~strangelove Keighvin for not knowing what a travolta is |
| 17:56.37 | ibot | ACTION destroys half the channel just to get rid of Keighvin for not knowing what a travolta is |
| 17:56.48 | goozbach | buhahah |
| 17:57.21 | emcnabb | so tired... early morning seminary is killing me |
| 17:57.37 | emcnabb | no more late nights |
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| 17:59.03 | atoponce | tor + ssh + irssi + bitlbee + gmail tls = <3 |
| 17:59.12 | goozbach | emcnabb: you teaching seminary? |
| 17:59.24 | goozbach | if so... |
| 17:59.29 | atoponce | s/irssi/screen + irssi/ |
| 17:59.30 | emcnabb | goozbach: yes |
| 17:59.36 | goozbach | ~rasberry emcnabb |
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| 18:14.19 | harleypig | atoponce: Don't let them throw you .. I just use irssi via screen, with a bitlbee daemon so all my irc and im needs are in one place |
| 18:14.47 | redbeard1 | atoponce: don't listen to harleypig. he's with them. |
| 18:15.05 | harleypig | If I was I'd be rich |
| 18:15.26 | redbeard1 | he's.... with _them_. *dramatic chord* |
| 18:15.29 | harleypig | I'd have a blonde and a brunette hanging off my arms and a redhead waiting at home. |
| 18:16.07 | harleypig | Wasn't Rowdy Roddy Piper in that movie? |
| 18:17.35 | harleypig | No, that was 'They Live' |
| 18:17.51 | harleypig | Them! had the giant ants |
| 18:17.58 | harleypig | I'm not a giant ant! |
| 18:18.10 | redbeard1 | i remember a killer movie with giant ants and a sugar factory |
| 18:18.19 | redbeard1 | wish i could remember what it was called |
| 18:18.21 | harleypig | Sounds like Them! |
| 18:18.28 | redbeard1 | oh yeah? |
| 18:19.24 | harleypig | Yeah, the ending scenese take place in a sugar factory. |
| 18:19.39 | redbeard1 | yeah, that was probably it |
| 18:19.46 | harleypig | b&w? |
| 18:19.58 | redbeard1 | i thought it had a longer name, like "the bus that couldn't slow down" or something |
| 18:20.05 | redbeard1 | i remember it being in color |
| 18:20.10 | harleypig | hm ... |
| 18:21.46 | redbeard1 | harleypig: check yer jabber acct |
| 18:21.57 | harleypig | well, them was the biggest movie of 1954 ... there were a fair number of copycats. |
| 18:22.08 | elg | some of them in color |
| 18:22.18 | elg | I think the original may have been colorized at one point too |
| 18:22.59 | harleypig | It was supposed to be in 3D but the studio execs chickened out |
| 18:23.14 | redbeard1 | it was one of those "talkies" tho, right? |
| 18:24.12 | harleypig | This is hilarious. I ran across this looking for 'giant ants' on imdb. It's a summary of a PeeWee's Playhouse episode called Monster in the Playhouse: |
| 18:24.26 | harleypig | A giant one-eyed monster is on the loose and appears in the Playhouse, scaring everyone! But after Pee-wee makes the monster a snack and Jambi grants Pee-wee's wish to understand the monster, the whole gang has a new friend! |
| 18:24.55 | redbeard1 | harleypig: you have too much time on your hands. |
| 18:25.03 | harleypig | I'm on my lunchbreak |
| 18:25.34 | redbeard1 | i'm gonna go ask yer boss what yer working on right now, and go make up^W^Wfind a bunch of bugs for you to fix |
| 18:25.42 | harleypig | heh |
| 18:25.49 | redbeard1 | what yer _supposed_ to be working on, anyway |
| 18:26.16 | harleypig | I got some bugs already, thenkyewverramuch |
| 18:27.14 | redbeard1 | ~lart harleypig |
| 18:27.27 | harleypig | Oo |
| 18:27.34 | redbeard1 | heh |
| 18:27.36 | redbeard1 | that was awesome |
| 18:28.29 | harleypig | I forgot ... They Live is where Duke Nukem got "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum." |
| 18:32.33 | harleypig | what? |
| 18:40.31 | fozzmoo | I miss Duke Nukem. :) |
| 18:40.51 | harleypig | I'm still holding out hope for Duke Nukem Forever |
| 18:40.57 | harleypig | maybe it'll be the first hologame |
| 18:40.59 | fozzmoo | Okay. |
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| 18:45.56 | ^Migs^ | go away Zerb_Riss |
| 18:46.00 | Zerb_Riss | no |
| 18:46.04 | ^Migs^ | YES |
| 18:46.19 | Zerb_Riss | my monkey brains brought me here and won't let me leave |
| 18:54.26 | harleypig | and is front? |
| 18:54.57 | Keighvin | I swear harley, I will stab you in the face. |
| 18:55.27 | harleypig | You'll get rich! |
| 18:55.56 | Keighvin | Only if that ample girth is masking a pinata... |
| 18:56.08 | harleypig | :D |
| 18:56.14 | harleypig | Imagine the prizes |
| 18:56.15 | Keighvin | ;) |
| 18:56.18 | Keighvin | NO. |
| 18:57.21 | harleypig | Sausage! |
| 18:58.04 | herlo | harleypig: missed you last night. How's that car? |
| 18:58.54 | harleypig | It's fine now, it was just a simple belt replacement and some kind of pulley adjustment. They just couldn't get to it til late in the day. |
| 18:59.02 | harleypig | So what'd I miss? |
| 19:00.57 | atoponce | harleypig: that's what i like about it, and as long as i have ssh access, i'm golden |
| 19:01.51 | harleypig | err ... you lost me (my short term memory is ... well, I have no short term memory) ... was that in reference to something I said earlier? |
| 19:03.45 | harleypig | Best ... suicide plan ... ever : http://bash.org/?488793 |
| 19:04.14 | Keighvin | I don't think I can be your friend anymore. |
| 19:04.20 | harleypig | :D |
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| 19:05.37 | atoponce | harleypig: in regards to bitlbee and irssi |
| 19:05.58 | atoponce | sorry, went to lunch- jason's deli. pretty good |
| 19:06.14 | harleypig | yeah, and if you put up an eliza bot you get some interesting logs |
| 19:06.20 | Zerb_Riss | tehre's a Jason's Deli right by my work |
| 19:06.59 | atoponce | Zerb_Riss: where do you work? |
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| 19:07.10 | Zerb_Riss | 8th East in Orem |
| 19:07.22 | atoponce | harleypig: yeah. i have been wanting to set one up since your bot fooled me |
| 19:07.53 | harleypig | I got my boss the other day. I thought I was gonna get fired. |
| 19:08.39 | harleypig | I need to make mine more intelligent but I don't have the time to learn the complexities of aiml |
| 19:15.29 | ^Migs^ | what's at 8th east in orem? |
| 19:15.41 | Zerb_Riss | where I work |
| 19:16.33 | ^Migs^ | and where do you work? |
| 19:16.37 | ^Migs^ | IF YOU DON'T MIND MY ASKING |
| 19:16.51 | ^Migs^ | I feel like being especially nosy today |
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| 19:17.30 | atoponce | ^Migs^: and that's different from any other day? |
| 19:17.52 | ^Migs^ | normally I'm just nosy. Today I'm ESPECIALLY nosy. I thought my original statement was clear enough. |
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| 19:25.35 | harleypig | echo |
| 19:25.39 | harleypig | echo |
| 19:27.28 | Keighvin | Apparently this irc client is not particularly enlightened. |
| 19:28.13 | harleypig | sirc is a basic client true |
| 19:28.31 | harleypig | you should switch to a realy client, like irssi |
| 19:28.39 | rsimpkins | irssi rocks |
| 19:28.53 | rsimpkins | irssi+screen - the ultimate IRC combo. |
| 19:29.11 | rsimpkins | I think you need a good theme with irssi though - and the right plugins/modules. |
| 19:29.18 | atoponce | weechat looks promising, but still very wet behind the ears |
| 19:29.19 | harleypig | irssi+screen+away.pl+eliza == fun reading |
| 19:29.52 | Keighvin | I'm still going to keep it pretty simple. |
| 19:30.04 | Keighvin | Not get into a macro groove or anything - not that committed to irc yet. |
| 19:30.11 | Keighvin | Been many many years since I was. |
| 19:30.11 | harleypig | irssi is simple |
| 19:30.15 | rsimpkins | If you don't do a lot of 'complex' IRCing - a simple client is pretty sufficient. |
| 19:31.10 | harleypig | irssi is a true unix app ... simple and intuitive for basic users and able to allow power users a lot of fun at the same time. |
| 19:31.47 | rsimpkins | So, the other day I setup a home box to rsync snapshot my server. It has e-mail alerts on errors, and it makes various beeping noises to tell me the progress of backups. I can backup my server in 3 minutes now. |
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| 19:32.40 | rsimpkins | I used GNU/Debian as the distro on the backup box. |
| 19:33.10 | rsimpkins | I was hoping that Debian would be easier to use, but to me it still seems a bit more complicated. |
| 19:34.10 | rsimpkins | If 'aptitude'is the best package browswer/manager, I would love to see something better. |
| 19:47.04 | Keighvin | There's also synaptic |
| 19:48.57 | rsimpkins | I was thinking of more cli based ones - suitable for running on a server. |
| 19:49.11 | Keighvin | ssh -X? |
| 19:49.16 | rsimpkins | If the cli versions were similar in user epxierence to some of the graphical ones, that might be cool. |
| 19:50.00 | rsimpkins | It's not a Debian issue - it is a general issue I think an Enterprise grade Linux could bring to the table. |
| 19:50.15 | rsimpkins | I've not messed with SuSE in - 6 years? Perhaps they have something. |
| 19:50.55 | Keighvin | SuSE's pretty tied in to YaST, heavily RPM |
| 19:51.25 | Keighvin | At least, I've not encountered apt* based package management on it in my casual use. |
| 19:53.04 | harleypig | what's wrong with aptitude? |
| 19:53.41 | atoponce | aptitude > apt-get > * |
| 19:53.42 | rsimpkins | harleypig: I think it is functional, I guess I just think it could be a lot clearer to use. |
| 19:53.43 | Keighvin | Your Mom's wrong with aptitude. |
| 19:54.09 | harleypig | My Mom's wrong with computers period. She sits too long at one, it'll crash. |
| 19:54.25 | harleypig | Whether its WinBlows, CrapOSX or Linux |
| 19:54.57 | harleypig | I'm not sure how much easier you could make a text base client |
| 19:55.22 | Zerb_Riss | I like apt |
| 19:55.57 | ^Migs^ | apt don't like you |
| 19:56.22 | ^Migs^ | OMGPWNED |
| 19:56.48 | Keighvin | 0mfg, t074l1y!!!!!11!one! |
| 19:57.39 | ^Migs^ | ftw |
| 19:57.55 | Keighvin | You started it. |
| 19:58.56 | graphyx | speaking of eliza.. I was reading a securityfocus article about "pretexting" , essentially rationalized lying and it listed a site that focused on pretexting to arrest pedophiles. |
| 19:59.27 | Keighvin | Whitehat work, eh? |
| 19:59.30 | graphyx | It's a site/group that pretend to be 13 year old girls and when guys chat with them they set them up to come and visit and have a police officer there to arrest them. |
| 19:59.48 | Keighvin | Teehee! |
| 19:59.51 | Keighvin | Wait, I mean: |
| 19:59.56 | Keighvin | TEEHEE!!!!!! |
| 20:00.01 | graphyx | I thought it would interesting if someone put together a 13 year old eliza that was configured to do the chat element of it. |
| 20:00.13 | graphyx | I think you mean Teehee!!!111elevnteen. |
| 20:00.30 | Keighvin | Probably wouldn't be that hard to set up. |
| 20:00.44 | Keighvin | ASL!?!???! |
| 20:00.52 | Keighvin | my parents dont understand me |
| 20:01.06 | Keighvin | they like totally took away my cell phone because i was talking to this older guy |
| 20:01.13 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 20:01.19 | graphyx | The interesting part was how they would play the role, be available without trying too hard to push the guy into getting with them. |
| 20:01.21 | ^Migs^ | are they afraid you're gay or something? |
| 20:01.47 | graphyx | ^Migs^: I think you missed part of the conversation.. |
| 20:01.58 | ^Migs^ | no, I missed all of it |
| 20:02.06 | ^Migs^ | I'm just butting in right now |
| 20:03.35 | Keighvin | So which is it, are you being NOSY or BUTTy? |
| 20:03.44 | ^Migs^ | can't it be both? |
| 20:03.54 | ^Migs^ | technically it can, if you understand the proper meaning of "OR" |
| 20:03.56 | ^Migs^ | it's not "XOR" |
| 20:04.07 | ^Migs^ | GEEKJOKESLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 20:04.36 | Keighvin | j0 r 5o 1337. |
| 20:04.50 | redbeard1 | ~lart Keighvin |
| 20:05.03 | ^Migs^ | omgino rite |
| 20:05.54 | Keighvin | How'd it know I was sleeping? |
| 20:06.18 | ^Migs^ | going back, lying is called pretexting now? |
| 20:06.25 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 20:06.44 | Keighvin | Yeah, it was media'd, thanks to the HP investigation. |
| 20:06.44 | redbeard1 | i'm gonna start using that |
| 20:06.56 | ^Migs^ | me too |
| 20:07.13 | ^Migs^ | now we only need a term for throwing someone out of a window. Something like "defenestration" |
| 20:07.25 | Keighvin | Yes, if only we had that. |
| 20:08.05 | ^Migs^ | that would be teh 1337 |
| 20:08.46 | redbeard1 | depending on how high up the window was, you could call it self defense |
| 20:09.04 | redbeard1 | it all depends on whether they survive to call you on your pretexting |
| 20:12.48 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 20:13.02 | ^Migs^ | we could theoretically get away with ANYTHING |
| 20:13.15 | harleypig | This whole thread is a good example of floccinaucinihilipilification |
| 20:13.16 | Keighvin | So, if we kill all the witnesses we can get away with anything. |
| 20:13.34 | Keighvin | I warned you. |
| 20:13.39 | harleypig | Stabls? |
| 20:13.47 | harleypig | stubbles? |
| 20:13.48 | Keighvin | Yes. Stabls. Horribly. |
| 20:13.54 | redbeard1 | harleypig: he can get away with bad spelling too |
| 20:14.08 | Keighvin | Especially if I hold weapons. |
| 20:14.11 | harleypig | Is typo and bad spelling the same thing? |
| 20:14.27 | harleypig | Only if they're bigger |
| 20:14.30 | redbeard1 | those words were pretexted anyway |
| 20:14.38 | harleypig | I turn my head and I'm looking at a long wooden sword ... |
| 20:14.40 | harleypig | :D |
| 20:14.49 | ^Migs^ | how the heck did your fingers jump to that "l" when it was moving between the "b" and "s"? |
| 20:15.06 | Keighvin | Maybe it was dvorak.... |
| 20:15.22 | ^Migs^ | clearly |
| 20:15.23 | Keighvin | In which the l and the s are right next to one another... |
| 20:15.23 | ^Migs^ | nowai |
| 20:15.23 | harleypig | I think you hit it on the head ... "b" and "s" |
| 20:15.47 | Keighvin | In this case, it's because almost every time I type 'stab' it's a prefix for 'stable' or some such. |
| 20:15.59 | Keighvin | Muscle memory took over and I didn't catch the typo. |
| 20:16.13 | harleypig | ummm ... you got a stable of anything? |
| 20:16.26 | Keighvin | I highly recommend it, it's a very comfortable layout. |
| 20:16.27 | harleypig | You don't have the right coat and hat for that ... |
| 20:16.38 | Keighvin | stable: static form of operation not prone to error or upset. |
| 20:16.51 | harleypig | uh huh ... hence the typo |
| 20:16.59 | ^Migs^ | I don't even think about anything I type anyway. I know that's probably a shock to most people. |
| 20:17.08 | Keighvin | gasp. |
| 20:17.14 | Keighvin | oh the shock. |
| 20:23.13 | harleypig | https://ndbeta.com/cgi-bin/yahoo.addresses.pl?c=17&h=&prev=top |
| 20:23.20 | harleypig | woops ... ignore that url |
| 20:23.49 | Keighvin | Now connecting 17 members worldwide! |
| 20:23.56 | harleypig | :D |
| 20:24.10 | Keighvin | 2003 is an option for birth year? |
| 20:24.14 | Keighvin | wtf? |
| 20:24.33 | harleypig | Yeah. Talk to the marketing folk. |
| 20:24.39 | redbeard1 | i blame earl's team |
| 20:24.47 | redbeard1 | just on principle |
| 20:24.53 | harleypig | Or else it's just what we had in there when we got it. |
| 20:24.55 | Keighvin | Earl's team has nothing to do with ndb. |
| 20:25.04 | redbeard1 | Keighvin: on principle! |
| 20:25.08 | harleypig | Yeah, they to spack! :> |
| 20:25.15 | harleypig | s/to/too/ |
| 20:25.20 | Keighvin | Earl's Team Has Nothing To Do With NDB! |
| 20:25.21 | redbeard1 | buncha spackers! |
| 20:25.27 | Keighvin | Even on principle. |
| 20:25.46 | redbeard1 | Keighvin: are you saying earl's team has no principles? |
| 20:26.05 | Keighvin | Is that close enough? |
| 20:26.21 | harleypig | only if that was a typo |
| 20:26.26 | redbeard1 | sounds like it's earl's team's fault, on principle |
| 20:26.44 | Keighvin | Which this group hasn't been too lenient on lately (typos, that is). |
| 20:27.08 | redbeard1 | see? |
| 20:27.22 | Keighvin | brb |
| 20:27.26 | harleypig | typos are immoral |
| 20:27.54 | redbeard1 | whoa! |
| 20:28.01 | redbeard1 | and thank you for playing TMI! |
| 20:29.55 | redbeard1 | NOOOO!!!!!11111oneoneone |
| 20:31.07 | redbeard1 | what the heck? why is everyone leaving? |
| 20:32.21 | ^Migs^ | put down your arms |
| 20:32.21 | harleypig | There being eliminated. |
| 20:32.21 | harleypig | one by one. |
| 20:32.21 | harleypig | err .. They're |
| 20:32.40 | harleypig | yeah, put down your arms |
| 20:34.03 | redbeard1 | ~whaleslap Keighvin |
| 20:34.05 | ibot | ACTION beats Keighvin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:36.43 | harleypig | Wasn't Hugh a Borg? |
| 20:36.57 | redbeard1 | hugh used to work for the forest service |
| 20:37.06 | redbeard1 | we covered that yesterday |
| 20:37.18 | redbeard1 | he was an essential staff member |
| 20:37.23 | Keighvin | The borg worked for the forest service? |
| 20:37.37 | Keighvin | "Only 3rd-of-5 could prevent forest fires." |
| 20:37.38 | redbeard1 | because only hugh could prevent forest fires |
| 20:37.46 | redbeard1 | ~dog Keighvin |
| 20:37.48 | ibot | ACTION stares at Keighvin until Keighvin whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 20:38.16 | Keighvin | I had a friend in HS who trained her dog to COWER! |
| 20:38.18 | Keighvin | And it would. |
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| 20:38.57 | redbeard1 | atoponce left too? |
| 20:39.07 | redbeard1 | is there a sniper around somewhere or something? |
| 20:39.50 | ^Migs^ | I would train a dog to shoot fireballs from its paws |
| 20:40.20 | harleypig | If my dog were as ugly ... |
| 20:40.25 | harleypig | nm ... that's another thread |
| 20:40.26 | Keighvin | Ryuken! |
| 20:40.33 | harleypig | Reverend! |
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| 20:47.15 | harleypig | Hey cool! The bible in sign language: http://cyberjer.com/signbibl/page26.htm |
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| 20:49.52 | Keighvin | Those are miserable iconographs. |
| 20:49.57 | Zerb_Riss | indeed |
| 20:50.02 | Zerb_Riss | very miserable |
| 20:50.50 | Keighvin | We should cheer them up. |
| 20:51.31 | emcnabb | stare at the page, and scroll up and down really quickly |
| 20:52.19 | emcnabb | ok, my head is hurting, that's enough |
| 20:52.22 | Keighvin | Nah, that only make's them sick. |
| 20:54.47 | ^Migs^ | why are you still here, Zerb_Riss? |
| 20:56.19 | \mematey | anyone here use the zend ide for eclipse? |
| 20:57.19 | \me | s/zend/zend php/ |
| 20:57.40 | redbeard1 | ~haha \me |
| 20:57.43 | ibot | ACTION beats \me about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 20:58.17 | \me | I like to say I'm well rounded |
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| 21:01.04 | \me | we do C here too |
| 21:01.05 | Keighvin | ~unlobotomy redbeard1 |
| 21:01.20 | Keighvin | Hm.... |
| 21:02.20 | mheath_ | Emerging 20 or 48. |
| 21:02.21 | mheath_ | Hmm. |
| 21:02.54 | Keighvin | ? |
| 21:03.07 | mheath_ | *of |
| 21:03.13 | Keighvin | . |
| 21:22.23 | atoponce | harleypig: do know if it's possible to change the jabber priority in bitlbee? |
| 21:22.28 | atoponce | if so, how? |
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| 21:39.39 | harleypig | atoponce: I don't |
| 21:41.08 | atoponce | ok. thx |
| 21:46.07 | harleypig | oh wow ... jabber supports rss feeds ... so you could have bitlbee+irssi scrolling the latest article for you. |
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| 21:48.54 | atoponce | haha. that's too cool |
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| 22:03.37 | Zerb_Riss | what is bitlbee |
| 22:03.59 | Zerb_Riss | ah that's a cool thing |
| 22:04.12 | findlay | this is the funniest thing I've read all month http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=197118&cid=16153301 |
| 22:05.54 | Zerb_Riss | does anyone know a good windows ssh client? |
| 22:05.56 | Zerb_Riss | and don't say putty |
| 22:06.09 | findlay | cygwin |
| 22:06.27 | Zerb_Riss | cygwin isn't an ssh client, but it has one |
| 22:06.37 | Zerb_Riss | mostly I was hoping to find one that has URL recognition |
| 22:06.46 | Zerb_Riss | the old ssh.com client seems to be mia |
| 22:07.00 | findlay | what do you mean by URL recognition? |
| 22:07.13 | Zerb_Riss | so if I see http://www.google.com I can click on it |
| 22:07.44 | findlay | depends on where you see it |
| 22:07.56 | Zerb_Riss | right there |
| 22:07.58 | Zerb_Riss | where I typed it |
| 22:08.57 | findlay | where did you type it? |
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| 22:10.51 | atoponce | Zerb_Riss: nevermind findlay. he doesn't "get it". ;) |
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| 22:15.08 | findlay | what don't I get? |
| 22:15.42 | Zerb_Riss | a prize |
| 22:16.04 | findlay | I am at a loss to understand what you're talking about and unless/until you give me more information, of course I won't "get it" |
| 22:16.19 | atoponce | :-)ยป |
| 22:16.26 | Zerb_Riss | I want an SSH client like putty for Windows that has inline URL recognition |
| 22:17.05 | findlay | you want to click on the URL text to activate an ssh session, is that what you mean? |
| 22:17.13 | atoponce | gnome-terminal |
| 22:17.21 | Zerb_Riss | oh I see what you're not understanding now |
| 22:17.24 | atoponce | i think you can get that compiled in windows... |
| 22:17.40 | Zerb_Riss | I want to be able to click on a URL in my shell window and have it open in my browser |
| 22:17.53 | findlay | oh, OK (: |
| 22:18.04 | findlay | don't know of any decent windows terminals |
| 22:18.33 | findlay | the best I've seen is msys, but I don't think it will do URLs |
| 22:19.43 | findlay | you could open a full gnome or kde or X session to get a terminal, but that's probably not what you want |
| 22:22.26 | mheath_ | My old platoon is taking Marksmanship Qualifications tomorrow :( |
| 22:23.07 | mheath_ | That's so depressing. |
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| 22:35.20 | findlay | ~depress mheath_ |
| 22:35.27 | ibot | ACTION kills a kitten and makes mheath_ watch |
| 22:35.51 | mheath_ | I seriously feel really depressed. |
| 22:35.57 | Keighvin | How exactly was the kitten killed? |
| 22:36.06 | mheath_ | That was my one singular goal. To become a United States Marine. |
| 22:36.16 | mheath_ | Instead, I managed to waste a month of my life. |
| 22:36.17 | Keighvin | Was that in typical "killing a kitten" internet fashion? |
| 22:36.30 | findlay | you must have to kill a kitten to become a marine I guess |
| 22:36.57 | findlay | and slay a wild boar |
| 22:37.03 | Keighvin | Don't sweat it - there are much larger disappointements still waiting for you mheath_. |
| 22:37.09 | findlay | heh |
| 22:37.14 | findlay | sure are |
| 22:37.28 | findlay | I mean, not to unnecessarily depress mheath_ already |
| 22:37.31 | findlay | (: |
| 22:38.22 | findlay | ~cheer mheath_ for he hasn't had to endure many of life's rude dissapointments yet |
| 22:38.28 | ibot | ACTION cheers mheath_ for he hasn't had to endure many of life's rude dissapointments yet on |
| 22:38.37 | findlay | that's boring |
| 22:38.59 | mheath_ | findlay, I think that getting screwed out of my lifelong dream and having a physical condition that may bother me for the rest of my life is pretty much the lowest of the low. |
| 22:39.57 | findlay | trust me mheath_, there are dissapointments waiting for you you don't even know about |
| 22:40.08 | findlay | it's best to not think too much of them |
| 22:40.35 | mrpull | mheath_: have you applied for school yet? |
| 22:40.45 | mheath_ | mrpull: yep. |
| 22:40.57 | mrpull | where are you planning to attend? |
| 22:40.57 | findlay | life shouldn't be about getting bereft of our dreams |
| 22:41.33 | mheath_ | mrpull: weber state university. I lack the money to go anywhere else. |
| 22:41.49 | mheath_ | I was going to use GI Bill money to pay for school |
| 22:41.57 | findlay | heh, weber state is probably the most expensive university in the state |
| 22:42.08 | mheath_ | And if I had spent 2 more days in the Marine Corps, I would have been elligible for some GI bill money. |
| 22:42.19 | mheath_ | No joke |
| 22:42.29 | mheath_ | The minimum time is one month, and I spent officially 29 days. |
| 22:42.45 | Keighvin | mheath_ = I've also had to come to terms with a deeply limiting physical condition. |
| 22:42.54 | mrpull | 29 days fits the definition of one month (for certain months) |
| 22:44.13 | Keighvin | Yes - one month out of every ~48. |
| 22:44.31 | mheath_ | I need to go buy a bicycle |
| 22:44.36 | mrpull | Keighvin: how many months have 29 days? |
| 22:44.36 | mheath_ | I feel bad, not doing a cardio workout |
| 22:44.52 | mheath_ | doctors down on depot said I should bicycle. Good for my knee. |
| 22:45.59 | Keighvin | mrpull: Very nearly all of them, but to use it as a defining criteria the implicit supposition is that the prefix 'only' or 'exactly' is also inplay. |
| 22:46.15 | mrpull | Keighvin: good call :) |
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| 22:56.25 | Keighvin | mrpull: Really? I was just being pedantic. |
| 22:56.59 | Zerb_Riss | haha! |
| 22:57.02 | Zerb_Riss | Nutty works |
| 22:57.09 | mrpull | You haven't heard the "Feb has 28 days, how many other months have 28 days?" riddle? |
| 22:57.19 | Zerb_Riss | lol |
| 22:57.24 | Zerb_Riss | is that really a riddle? |
| 22:58.09 | findlay | ~riddle |
| 23:00.28 | Zerb_Riss | findlay, Nutty has URL recognition in it |
| 23:00.49 | mrpull | Zerb_Riss: no. but what else would you call it? |
| 23:00.58 | Zerb_Riss | a blonde joke :p |
| 23:01.13 | *** join/#utah graphyx (n=graphyx@205.208.245.105) |
| 23:02.07 | graphyx | Is there an easy way to see if the output on the CLI is going to stdout or errout? |
| 23:02.23 | graphyx | I am using hydra ... > file & and it is still sending stuff to term. |
| 23:02.25 | graphyx | any thoughts? |
| 23:02.45 | *** join/#utah Sargun (n=xbmodder@69-12-240-206.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 23:03.03 | mrpull | graphyx: what shell... bash? |
| 23:04.37 | graphyx | yeah |
| 23:06.47 | mrpull | do you want to keep them separate, or just redirect everything to a file? |
| 23:07.47 | mrpull | command 1>out.txt 2>err.txt |
| 23:07.53 | mrpull | does that do the trick? |
| 23:08.57 | graphyx | I'll try it. |
| 23:09.24 | Keighvin | Nuts, mrpull beat me to it. |
| 23:09.52 | graphyx | Keighvin: hold long you been hanging out in #utah? |
| 23:11.10 | Keighvin | 'bout 3 days, I think. |
| 23:11.21 | graphyx | yeah thought you were new. |
| 23:11.30 | graphyx | How did you hear about ut? |
| 23:11.32 | graphyx | er// us |
| 23:11.41 | Keighvin | ut would also work, in this case. |
| 23:11.53 | Keighvin | Jayce^ prodded me in this direction. |
| 23:11.56 | graphyx | thats true. |
| 23:12.01 | graphyx | Cool. |
| 23:12.03 | graphyx | Welcome. |
| 23:12.05 | graphyx | Stick around. |
| 23:12.10 | graphyx | have fun, be a geek... |
| 23:12.10 | Keighvin | I should have been in here years ago, but haven't bothered to fire up irc for a decade or so. |
| 23:12.21 | graphyx | You've had IRC around that long? |
| 23:12.32 | graphyx | I mean the option of irc.. |
| 23:12.47 | Keighvin | I first used IRC on idlenet and dalnet way back in... Lessee here... '95? |
| 23:13.40 | Keighvin | But stopped using it in early '97 |
| 23:26.51 | *** join/#utah bonez (n=nein@drjones.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 23:27.04 | Keighvin | Well, s'about time for me to take off. |
| 23:27.14 | Keighvin | No offense, bonez. |
| 23:29.37 | bonez12 | Keighvin not to worry |
| 23:29.50 | graphyx | So, outside of upgrading the system, can you think of another way of preventing the crash then an IPS? |
| 23:31.46 | graphyx | wrong channel. |
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| 23:32.32 | Keighvin | 'night all. |
| 23:32.41 | *** part/#utah Keighvin (n=ptomlins@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 23:32.52 | bonez12 | is there any way, booting with Woody cd...to fix my MBR...I forgot to run grub-install...and this drive, an SATA 80gb was booting up from another drive....now, it has no grub in the mbr and I can't boot it |
| 23:33.26 | nick125_lappy | afternoon #utah |