| 00:00.33 | findlay | lol |
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| 00:01.21 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
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| 00:03.58 | mheath | Is the Amazon download service available to the public yet? |
| 00:04.37 | mheath | Tene, I'm not affected. IE 7 :) |
| 00:07.34 | mheath | I guess it is public....kinda tricky to get to on their website.. |
| 00:17.57 | Tene | mheath: you asked for something on windows that you could play with |
| 00:18.24 | mheath | Tene: Unfortunately that is....erm....'incompatible' with my system. Another suggestion, maybe? |
| 00:18.25 | mheath | :P |
| 00:19.43 | mheath | 0.1% at 50KB/Sec. Thanks, Amazon.com! I'm glad I paid to rent from you rather than go to the VIDEO RENTAL STORE. |
| 00:21.17 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 00:25.13 | vontrapp | is there a way to use activerecord to create databases and tables, in the event they don't exist? |
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| 00:40.37 | mheath | ah, ok, my wireless was bottlenecking |
| 00:41.12 | mheath | 757KB/Sec |
| 00:51.18 | levi_home | vontrapp: Isn't the point of activerecord to read your already extant database? |
| 00:57.35 | vontrapp | well sure, but i still want to create a database and tables |
| 01:05.56 | levi_home | Perhaps there is a way to do it, but all the tutorials and such I've ever seen have you make your database and tables with some sort of GUI. |
| 01:08.06 | mheath | Someone made a comment today that put the idea in my mind of getting a teaching degree. |
| 01:09.08 | mheath | They said it mostly jokingly, but I was thinking.....my education experiences weren't the best, and I think I could have a positive effect on some kid's lives.. |
| 01:14.06 | levi_home | You want to do elementary ed? |
| 01:15.14 | Tene | I've thought about going into education. |
| 01:22.19 | levi_home | I've thought about teaching, but at the college level. |
| 01:22.54 | Tene | That's more what I'd be interested in also. |
| 01:23.16 | levi_home | Of course, that means more school for me. :) |
| 01:24.19 | levi_home | Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but certainly involves some tradeoffs. |
| 01:24.26 | Tene | yeah |
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| 01:49.55 | mheath | heh, that's fun. |
| 01:50.36 | mheath | Spend hours downloading this movie, then it deletes it |
| 01:51.28 | mheath | and pretends like I have no videos that I've purchased, despite the fact that they already billed me |
| 01:52.39 | Tene | weird. |
| 01:52.58 | mheath | Amazon's online interface shows that its still in my "Media Library" |
| 01:53.11 | mheath | yet, the downloaded files disappeared off my computer |
| 01:53.34 | Tene | I bet it thought you were trying to pirate them. |
| 01:54.48 | nick125_lappy | probably |
| 01:54.57 | nick125_lappy | you were using the analog hole by trying to watch it |
| 01:54.59 | mheath | Tene, how do you figure that? |
| 01:56.23 | mheath | This is the second time this has happened to me =\ |
| 01:56.50 | Tene | mheath: Because it was entertaining to suggest. |
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| 01:58.44 | mheath | I order things from these giant companies |
| 01:58.48 | mheath | they charge me, and don't follow through |
| 01:58.55 | mheath | and theres no one to hold accountable |
| 02:00.36 | Tene | you could blame sjansen. |
| 02:00.42 | Tene | ~blame sjansen |
| 02:00.47 | ibot | ACTION blames sjansen (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 02:01.20 | Tene | Heh. Gnome broke badly whlie updating my system. |
| 02:01.48 | Tene | That is to say, running 'yum update' while running gnome caused several parts of gnome to die. |
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| 02:14.59 | levi_home | Wow, I just saw The Wiggles. |
| 02:16.52 | Tene | scary magic worm-like creatures that bore holes in everything? |
| 02:17.10 | levi_home | No, it's a kids show from Australia. |
| 02:17.18 | Tene | Oh. That's totally different. |
| 02:21.05 | mheath | AGHHHHH |
| 02:21.12 | mheath | ~lart Amazon |
| 02:21.21 | mheath | I could be watching a movie right now |
| 02:21.36 | Tene | heh |
| 02:22.16 | mheath | Or I could just have gone to the freakin video rental store! |
| 02:27.08 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 02:36.21 | mheath | Oh |
| 02:36.32 | mheath | This is a known issue...we should ahve it fixed within a week |
| 02:36.47 | mheath | Well....I payed to watch a movie tonight. Can I get a refund? |
| 02:36.57 | mheath | Uh, unfortunately, sir, they're not doing refunds right now. |
| 02:37.03 | mheath | WTF |
| 02:37.22 | mheath | Pardon my achronyized language |
| 02:37.52 | findlay | is there a way in the gimp to create a selection rectangle having a specific aspect ratio? |
| 02:38.41 | mheath | findlay, I know its possible to make a perfect square (pardon me if you find mentioning this to be very dumb), incase thats what you're trying to do |
| 02:39.05 | findlay | mheath: no, I want a rectangle with very specific proportions |
| 02:39.55 | mheath | findlay, I don't believe so. But what about zooming in, selecting a number of pixels equal to the aspect ratio you're aiming for, then growing the selection? |
| 02:40.07 | findlay | specifically 4/3 |
| 02:40.22 | findlay | mheath: that's a good idea (: |
| 02:40.36 | mheath | :) |
| 02:41.17 | mheath | Oh, yes sir. Amazon acknowledges this video player is a broken piece of crap and that you paid money for something you can't use |
| 02:41.27 | mheath | But, we're not offering refunds at this time |
| 02:41.56 | mheath | But, rest assured, sir! Amazon values customer satisfaction. Customer support is our highest priority. |
| 02:42.08 | mheath | NO IT ISN'T, BECAUSE CUSTOMER SUPPORT MEANS GIVING ME A FREAKIN REFUND. |
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| 02:43.15 | EpP | hey, anyone go to sugarhouse coffee? |
| 02:43.31 | findlay | mheath: how can I grow the selection? |
| 02:43.48 | mheath | erm, don't have gimp open at the moment... |
| 02:43.55 | mheath | edit, selection, grow (or expand, or something) |
| 02:44.05 | synic | EpP: is that the one on 21rst and 11th? |
| 02:44.05 | mheath | I start mixing up Photoshop and Gimp notation |
| 02:44.37 | mheath | findlay, Select/Grow |
| 02:44.49 | EpP | synic, yeah |
| 02:45.06 | synic | EpP: yeah, I go there sometimes. |
| 02:45.23 | EpP | synic, yeah you should come there is live music |
| 02:45.32 | synic | what, tonight? |
| 02:45.37 | mheath | findlay, oh, waste of time |
| 02:45.46 | mheath | findlay, http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-rect-select.html |
| 02:45.48 | mheath | seet he bottom bit |
| 02:45.51 | mheath | *see the bottom bit |
| 02:47.54 | EpP | synic, yeah |
| 02:48.10 | EpP | Im just sitting here. I got my new hardware |
| 02:48.14 | synic | heh, I've had my coffee quota for today. Who's playing? |
| 02:48.41 | findlay | mheath: how do I get to that menu? |
| 02:49.15 | mheath | In the tool options menu |
| 02:49.48 | mheath | create your rectangle with a size that reflects your aspect ratio |
| 02:50.10 | mheath | Choose Fixed Aspect Ratio from the dropdown box |
| 02:50.15 | mheath | then adjust the size of the rectangle |
| 02:52.54 | findlay | thanks mheath |
| 02:54.33 | EpP | synic, some girl. Shes pretty good. |
| 02:54.34 | mheath | no problem findlay |
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| 02:58.35 | EpP | synic, do you live around here? |
| 02:59.20 | synic | EpP: sorta. I work closer (3300 and 300 e) |
| 02:59.36 | synic | we go to sugarhouse all the time for phat's and/or the soup kitchen |
| 02:59.45 | EpP | nice nice |
| 02:59.50 | mheath | hmm. job hunting.... |
| 03:00.17 | EpP | I just got a subscription for their 80211.net. So im going to be doing my homework there. |
| 03:00.24 | EpP | \her |
| 03:00.29 | EpP | *\HERE |
| 03:00.39 | synic | wait... you have to pay for their wireless? |
| 03:00.43 | mheath | I'm really considering going to college. For teaching. =\ |
| 03:01.27 | mheath | I had a good teacher and friend who got a teaching degree then went to teach English in Japan (lots of job opps there) for a while, before coming and teaching Computer Programming back here |
| 03:01.39 | EpP | synic, its like $10 a month. |
| 03:01.58 | synic | EpP: meh. I'd rather go downtown. Now you can even get free wireless in liberty park. |
| 03:02.15 | EpP | haha, yeah then get stabbed by a homeless person too |
| 03:02.27 | EpP | when they want your laptop ^ |
| 03:03.14 | synic | heh.. have you ever been there? |
| 03:03.20 | synic | I highly doubt that would happen. |
| 03:03.30 | mheath | Just borrow my sword and put it where they can see it ;-) |
| 03:03.42 | mheath | *one of my swords |
| 03:04.53 | EpP | im being facetious. |
| 03:05.25 | synic | do you live around there? |
| 03:05.43 | synic | 'cause if it's just walking distance, yeah, $10 is much better than paying for broadband |
| 03:07.23 | EpP | nah im at like 45 and highland. |
| 03:07.57 | EpP | but its around where we usually hangout. |
| 03:08.24 | synic | someone was saying that they are going to wipe that whole area out and put in a mall |
| 03:10.09 | synic | http://www.slweekly.com/article.cfm/goodbyesugarhouse |
| 03:12.31 | EpP | that would suck. |
| 03:13.17 | mheath | I just wish Ogden's downtown would pick up... |
| 03:13.43 | EpP | mheath, hows the injury? |
| 03:14.14 | mheath | Storefront after storefront, all vacant now or filled with cheap fillers or pawn shops....all places that used to be booming, beautiful, family owned businesses 30-40 years ago |
| 03:14.16 | mheath | EpP, OK.. |
| 03:14.29 | EpP | nice |
| 03:15.32 | mheath | The mall that was supposed to "revitalize the economy" 25 years ago (when the economy was still OK) ended up completely destroying it |
| 03:15.54 | mheath | That mall was a complete failure, and since got torn down....new things are being built there now |
| 03:16.03 | EpP | is flock as "safe" aas firefox? |
| 03:16.22 | mheath | Nice apartments, a movie theatre, and a high-end gym |
| 03:16.23 | Tene | EpP: flock is rebranded FF with a few preinstalled extensions, I thought. |
| 03:16.36 | mheath | Don't see how they think putting those things in such a scary neighborhood will help |
| 03:16.43 | EpP | Tene, thx. then il luse oit |
| 03:17.05 | EpP | it wont. It scares people away. |
| 03:17.06 | Tene | mheath: they should distribute guns to everyone. |
| 03:18.01 | mheath | Tene, they should focus on simple business growth rather than pumping money into whatever catches there eye at the moment that they fee tourists will like |
| 03:18.06 | mheath | *feel tourists will like |
| 03:18.26 | Tene | Yeah, well my solution involves more gun-related deaths. |
| 03:18.31 | Tene | so it's better. |
| 03:18.52 | mheath | Oh, our downtown is home to gangbangers and neighborhoods that have deteriorated from wonderful middleclass neighborhoods to horrible racially-segregated ghettos! |
| 03:19.00 | mheath | BUT! A gondola lift to a skii resort! |
| 03:19.04 | mheath | That will save our downtown! |
| 03:19.54 | Tene | what if it's a gondola lift *from downtown*? |
| 03:20.30 | levi_home | That would be AWESOME. |
| 03:20.38 | Tene | and the only way to get to the mountain? |
| 03:20.47 | Tene | They could build a big wall around the skii resort. |
| 03:20.55 | mheath | Tene, of course! ;-P |
| 03:20.56 | Tene | and have a really long lift from the middle of downtown. |
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| 03:22.18 | mheath | Tene, thats actually where the proposed lift starts at :P |
| 03:22.26 | Tene | heh |
| 03:22.57 | mheath | They really do this. Pump money, funding, and lobbying into some random interest rather than working on basic crucial improvemetns |
| 03:23.23 | mheath | They recently pumped a bunch of money into restoring a small segment of (out of the way) city street into its historial look. |
| 03:23.43 | Tene | What should they actually work on? |
| 03:24.05 | Tene | Heh, the schools out on the east side of they valley are rather underfilled. |
| 03:24.17 | Tene | some at about half the amount of students they are intended for. |
| 03:24.22 | mheath | gave people grants to improve the exterior look of their houses.....really are beautiful victorian-style houses.....and even resurfacing the old trolley tracks |
| 03:24.35 | Tene | One of the schools out there burned down. |
| 03:24.56 | Tene | So they rebuilt it, and knocked down some schools on the west-side while they were at it. |
| 03:24.58 | mheath | Tene, improving businesses. Increasing downtown police force, to make it safer. |
| 03:25.06 | mheath | Tax incentives for businesses to move down twon |
| 03:25.24 | mheath | An in-city transportation system to encourage people to come downtown, like trax |
| 03:26.21 | EpP | well im peacing out. |
| 03:26.24 | EpP | see ya |
| 03:26.58 | mheath | Systems to encourage general housing improvement in the area |
| 03:27.23 | synic | mheath: but all of this stuff will take away from the "development here was stopped in the 60's and no one actually comes here" appeal :P |
| 03:27.51 | mheath | synic, development there stopped in the 80's. |
| 03:28.03 | mheath | Businesses faired fairly well until they built the Ogden Mall |
| 03:28.17 | mheath | and all the big-name chain retailers forced out the remaining local businesses. |
| 03:28.28 | synic | doesn't matter when it actually did... downtown ogden _looks_ like it was abandoned long long ago. |
| 03:28.52 | synic | it's depressing |
| 03:29.07 | levi_home | You should write your local government officials and see if you get a response. |
| 03:29.37 | mheath | levi_home, I'm not officially 'in' Ogden, so I don't get to vote for the officials making these decisions |
| 03:29.52 | levi_home | You don't have to vote for them to write them a letter. |
| 03:30.04 | mheath | I'm in an incorporated residential neighborhood outside Ogden.... |
| 03:30.19 | mheath | levi_home, I know. But if I was actually in Ogden, I'd consider running for a government position myself. |
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| 03:50.39 | mheath | ..... |
| 03:50.45 | mheath | And you wonder where your tax dollars go |
| 03:51.01 | mheath | our schoool board recently paid $23,000 for a web based app to automatically assign substitute teachers. |
| 03:51.05 | mheath | $23,000. |
| 03:51.14 | mheath | Plus $18,160 annually after taht |
| 03:54.13 | Tene | So... uh... want to give me the contact information for your school district? |
| 03:54.15 | Tene | >.> |
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| 03:54.54 | mheath | Oh, and they paid $210,000 to buy two houses to add a tiny not-really-needed extension to an existing elementary school. |
| 03:55.20 | mheath | extension to the property, that is. |
| 03:55.30 | mheath | $210,000 for a little more grass in the playground |
| 03:57.19 | mheath | Hundreds of thousands of dollars of purchases, all unanimously decided on, and all in half an hour. |
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| 15:35.27 | mheath | I thought brac ignored ibot |
| 15:35.52 | mheath | brac, say ~lart test |
| 15:35.52 | brac | insufficient "say" auth (have 10, need 70) |
| 15:36.05 | mheath | brac, you suck |
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| 16:36.31 | atoponce | Jayce^: ping |
| 16:43.01 | findlay | ~pong |
| 16:43.04 | ibot | | . |
| 16:46.15 | elg | dilvie: no tags? |
| 16:47.10 | dilvie | tags? |
| 16:47.18 | elg | id3 |
| 16:47.19 | dilvie | oh yeah |
| 16:47.23 | dilvie | it's a work in progress |
| 16:47.25 | elg | I'm going to listen after cartalk |
| 16:47.26 | elg | cool |
| 16:47.26 | dilvie | I never tag those |
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| 18:51.50 | elg | -lart stupid IT departments |
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| 19:35.29 | redbeard1 | ~lart elg |
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| 20:03.22 | redbeard1 | aww, it's over |
| 20:03.34 | redbeard1 | i like hard weather, so long as it's not actual snow |
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| 20:43.18 | Tene | anyone else on a comcast outage? |
| 20:46.42 | Tene | when comcast finally acknowledged the outage they gave a recovery time of 24 to 48 hours. |
| 20:49.43 | mheath | I've got comcast here; its working fine for me. |
| 20:50.06 | Tene | bah. I hate you now. |
| 20:50.18 | Tene | go die in a fire. |
| 20:50.35 | Tene | what's the problem, mheath ? |
| 20:50.48 | mheath | Tene, want to trade places? You can come and finish updating this 450Mhz Pentium III machine from a 1st edition Windows XP CD to current service pack 2 with all updates. |
| 20:51.52 | Tene | m'eh. isn't that basically just watching it and clicking lnextl over and over between reboots? |
| 20:52.03 | mheath | basically |
| 20:52.05 | mheath | very long time, though |
| 20:52.16 | Tene | 'next' |
| 20:52.28 | mheath | I wondered about that |
| 20:52.48 | mheath | Checking for the latest updates for your computer... |
| 20:53.02 | mheath | I get Vista for my laptop soon, though |
| 20:53.05 | mheath | CD is on the way :) |
| 20:53.15 | mheath | Vista + Gentoo dualboot |
| 20:54.17 | Tene | on my phone. weirdbutton +l=' |
| 20:54.39 | mheath | Ah |
| 20:54.47 | mheath | An easy solution: Give me your phone. |
| 20:55.52 | Tene | solution? what's the problem? |
| 20:56.04 | mheath | um...um... |
| 20:56.20 | mheath | Your cellphone is...bad. |
| 20:56.25 | mheath | ;-) |
| 20:56.31 | Tene | howso? |
| 20:56.49 | Tene | maybe I can fix it |
| 20:56.51 | mheath | Checking for the lates updates for your computer... still. |
| 20:57.12 | mheath | Now it just tried to blank to screen saver |
| 20:57.16 | mheath | and froze up the entire computer. |
| 20:57.19 | mheath | -.- |
| 20:57.45 | mheath | I just need to get the updates installed |
| 20:57.53 | mheath | then I can through xplite on there and things will speed up a lot |
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| 21:25.05 | mheath | ......wow. |
| 21:25.18 | mheath | I'd talked to him some. Thats....horrible. |
| 21:26.06 | EpP | atoponce, u here? |
| 21:26.15 | emcnabb | :-( |
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| 21:41.56 | EpP | well atoponce, I got my password reset on my shell |
| 21:44.22 | mheath | Doing some cleanup on my laptop, bbiab |
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| 22:06.25 | elg | ibot, say arrrrrr |
| 22:06.26 | ibot | arrrrrr |
| 22:22.45 | EpP | anyone know how to setup an eggdrop? |
| 22:24.58 | elg | drop eggs |
| 22:27.18 | macnewbold | cd /usr/ports/irc/eggdrop ; sudo make install |
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| 22:41.27 | EpP | well i have a shell and i cant seem to get it to connect. |
| 22:49.03 | EpP | anyone willing to configure it for me? |
| 22:52.07 | elg | you want to config your shell to connect? |
| 22:52.17 | elg | connect what? the dots? |
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| 23:14.31 | EpP | hi |
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| 23:53.26 | Sargun | Lilo has died. |
| 23:54.17 | mheath | Hmmm. I'm contemplating what distro to put on this laptop =\ |
| 23:54.27 | mheath | Something to tinker with a bit in my spare time |
| 23:54.30 | mheath | Dualboot with Windows |
| 23:54.46 | Sargun | mheath, hey |
| 23:54.52 | Sargun | did you find out about that job? |