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| 00:15.34 | emcnabb | no IRC for over a week |
| 00:15.37 | emcnabb | there are miracles |
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| 00:33.39 | atoponce | emcnabb: congrats! |
| 00:42.23 | Sargun | emcnabb, uh? |
| 00:42.24 | Sargun | what |
| 00:50.48 | emcnabb | out of the country |
| 00:52.05 | elg | emcnabb: where you been |
| 00:52.21 | emcnabb | on a cruise (Caribbean) |
| 00:52.30 | elg | was it fun? |
| 00:52.54 | emcnabb | yeah, very much so, but being away from the real world almost drove me insane |
| 00:53.16 | emcnabb | gained some weight and sun burn |
| 00:53.30 | levi_home | Mmm, cruises. |
| 00:53.31 | emcnabb | sunburn |
| 00:53.43 | levi_home | What cruise line? |
| 00:53.49 | emcnabb | Princess |
| 00:54.02 | Sargun | cool. |
| 00:54.47 | Sargun | did they have internet uplink? |
| 00:55.55 | emcnabb | we were on our way back home driving up the Florida coast yesterday. We saw this fireball in front of our car going straight up with steam/smoke trail in the distance. It turns out it was Atlantis being launched |
| 00:56.33 | emcnabb | kind of cool |
| 00:56.50 | levi_home | Sweet. |
| 00:58.14 | emcnabb | Sargun: they did, but everything was blocked besides Web access. They usually charge $0.35 / minute but we got free access (her parents have used Princess a lot) |
| 00:59.03 | levi_home | There are better things to do on a cruise ship than dink around on the internet. |
| 00:59.11 | emcnabb | levi_home: exactly |
| 00:59.34 | levi_home | Sargun: That might be hard for you to understand, I know, but you'll have to take our word for it. |
| 00:59.37 | emcnabb | the food was amazing; unlimited amounts of incredible dishes |
| 00:59.56 | levi_home | Did you have any escargot? |
| 00:59.57 | emcnabb | I gained about 7 lbs |
| 01:00.22 | emcnabb | levi_home: yeah, last night. Very yummy (baked in a garlic butter sause) |
| 01:00.30 | emcnabb | last night of the cruise that is |
| 01:00.42 | levi_home | Yeah, it's actually really good stuff. |
| 01:00.57 | levi_home | I had some fois gras pate, too, but didn't like it that much. |
| 01:01.28 | levi_home | Did you have assigned dinner seating, or did you get to choose your tablemates? |
| 01:02.08 | emcnabb | I've never tried that before; I heard on NPR last month about the Chicago ban on fois gras pate; interesting to hear about the debate |
| 01:02.28 | emcnabb | levi_home: it was open seating |
| 01:03.04 | levi_home | My cruise had assigned seating, and we really liked the people we sat with. |
| 01:03.21 | emcnabb | I guess they recently changed it on Princess |
| 01:03.25 | emcnabb | levi_home: where did you go? |
| 01:04.26 | levi_home | Eastern Carribbean. St. Thomas, Tortola, and a little resort island. |
| 01:04.46 | levi_home | We went on Holland America. |
| 01:05.01 | Sargun | levi_home, what may be hard to understand |
| 01:05.07 | Sargun | levi_home, 0.35 / minutes |
| 01:05.08 | Sargun | er |
| 01:05.10 | Sargun | minute |
| 01:05.16 | Sargun | or freee access? |
| 01:05.19 | emcnabb | that was about what we did. We went to St. Thomas, St. John, St. Martaan, and a private island in the Bahamas |
| 01:05.32 | levi_home | Sargun: That there is life beyond computers. |
| 01:05.40 | Sargun | levi_home, yes, I know |
| 01:05.41 | Sargun | there is. |
| 01:05.47 | Sargun | its called school :-P |
| 01:06.24 | levi_home | Rather, there are things that people choose to do of their own free will that do not involve computers or video games. |
| 01:06.37 | Sargun | yeah... |
| 01:06.38 | Sargun | I know |
| 01:06.48 | Sargun | I was joking about the school thing. |
| 01:07.07 | levi_home | And I was joking that you may find it hard to understand. |
| 01:07.12 | Sargun | oh |
| 01:07.18 | Sargun | well then, haha |
| 01:11.54 | atoponce | feels like christmas! :-)ยป |
| 01:14.53 | Tene | so what's the fois gras thing and why was it banned |
| 01:17.23 | emcnabb | here is a description: |
| 01:17.25 | emcnabb | http://www.hsus.org/farm/news/ournews/chicago_foie_gras_ban.html |
| 01:17.40 | emcnabb | it comes from a somewhat bias source, but gets the point across |
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| 01:21.31 | Tene | Thanks! |
| 01:23.49 | emcnabb | well, night all! |
| 01:29.29 | levi_home | I need to finish this silly uninformed search program I'm writing in F#. |
| 01:34.25 | Sargun | F sharp? |
| 01:34.31 | Sargun | whats that? |
| 01:34.58 | levi_home | Basically OCaml for .net |
| 01:35.26 | Sargun | cool |
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| 02:35.47 | findlay | ~lart oct |
| 02:36.17 | findlay | no, ibot, that's not the lart we want |
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| 03:13.43 | Sargun | Death? |
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| 03:57.34 | findlay | It's been far too long since I've played Schubert quartet music |
| 03:57.51 | findlay | no person should be allowed to go this long without playing Schubert |
| 04:11.23 | levi_home | On the contrary, I think they should be allowed to go as long as they want. |
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| 04:20.52 | Sargun | hi |
| 04:21.05 | Sargun | findlay, did you ever get your complex routing working? |
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| 04:43.08 | Sargun | MBR |
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| 12:50.20 | goozbach | morning |
| 12:50.25 | goozbach | ~rlart |
| 12:52.09 | graphyx | morning. |
| 12:52.15 | graphyx | ~rlart |
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| 13:19.51 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 13:20.10 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
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| 13:45.27 | levi | Good morning |
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| 13:49.58 | goozbach | ok so what are some "cannot live without it" blackberry apps? |
| 13:50.56 | findlay | Sargun: not yet. Maybe I'll have some time this week |
| 14:01.10 | elg | goozbach: toast to put your blackberry jam on |
| 14:01.21 | elg | and a jar to store your blackberry jam in |
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| 14:10.16 | levi | a rock to wind a piece of string around. |
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| 14:30.03 | levi | Mmm, cheesecake. |
| 14:30.18 | redbeard1 | so tasty! |
| 14:33.36 | levi | Curse you, ibot, for making me think of cheesecake at a time like this! |
| 14:34.52 | goozbach | omm cheesecake |
| 14:37.51 | goozbach | drat |
| 14:37.58 | goozbach | and this was one of my nice shirts |
| 14:41.31 | Sargun | :-/ |
| 14:41.44 | redbeard1 | levi: just head over to my blog and look at the beautiful lamb i posted. that'll take yer mind off the cheesecake. |
| 14:43.24 | elg | my wife flies home this evening. I wonder if the flight will be irrationally empty |
| 14:43.46 | graphyx | why do you wonder that? |
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| 15:00.30 | levi | graphyx: I guess it's because it's 9/11 today. |
| 15:02.22 | levi | We all know that terrorists are sentimental types, and likely to do exactly the same thing as they did before, and on the anniversary no less. |
| 15:11.47 | redbeard1 | levi, isn't that a song? i'm gettin' sentimental over terrorism or something? |
| 15:12.20 | levi | I wouldn't be surprised. |
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| 15:21.18 | elg | kill -9 $breakfast |
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| 15:23.14 | elg | ~ricer |
| 15:23.23 | elg | ~ricer tensai |
| 15:23.28 | elg | ~gentoo tensai |
| 15:23.35 | elg | ibot, are you awake? |
| 15:23.48 | elg | ~lart tensai |
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| 15:25.35 | elg | ~lart maquis |
| 15:25.50 | elg | sigh. i guess it's time to tidy up the house |
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| 15:42.18 | redbeard1 | i hate referer spam |
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| 15:42.30 | Tene | so kill someone |
| 15:42.49 | redbeard1 | ~kill -9 "referer spam" |
| 15:42.51 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxtachyon gun at -9 "referer spam" |
| 15:43.00 | redbeard1 | something like that |
| 15:44.16 | redbeard1 | such a pain having to clean up after it all the time |
| 15:45.37 | redbeard1 | the pr0n spam referers have found me |
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| 16:32.32 | elg | redbeard1: i decided trackbacks weren't worth it |
| 16:33.06 | redbeard1 | elg: what are trackbacks? |
| 16:33.45 | elg | oh, are you talking about comment spam? |
| 16:35.10 | redbeard1 | no, referer spam |
| 16:35.41 | elg | elaborate |
| 16:36.01 | redbeard1 | spiders that hit my site with pr0n sites, etc as the referer, in the hopes that i might leave my stats open to the public |
| 16:37.05 | redbeard1 | i haven't gotten any comment spam ever since adding a captcha |
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| 16:46.55 | elg | oh. i see |
| 16:47.27 | elg | i'm too lazy to look at my own web stats let alone share them, so i wouldn't know if I'm being referspammed |
| 16:47.29 | \me | I don't get enough traffic to get either types of spam |
| 16:48.30 | \me | I've got to come up with some more bugs eating bugs pictures - gotta start looking more |
| 16:48.49 | redbeard1 | i like to see where people have come from. i still get a lot of residual hits from craftzine.com |
| 16:48.52 | \me | I just got some venus fly traps - maybe I'll get some good pics of those |
| 16:49.02 | redbeard1 | \me: yeah, i think we've seen enough of those |
| 16:49.17 | \me | I just use either Google stats or the ones blogflux provides |
| 16:49.31 | \me | I rarely look at my webalizer stats |
| 16:49.52 | redbeard1 | oog. i gave up on webalizer, it was so horrible |
| 16:50.37 | redbeard1 | so elg, what are trackbacks? you never told me |
| 16:52.13 | \me | I've always liked webalizer for raw hit and bandwidth data |
| 16:53.02 | redbeard1 | i used to use webalizer, but it was just a pain to configure and use |
| 16:53.05 | \me | It can be pretty customized too, and being static, it's fast |
| 16:53.13 | redbeard1 | i switched over to awstats, and life got so much easier |
| 16:53.39 | \me | awstats was never customizable enough, unless that's gotten better |
| 16:53.48 | redbeard1 | using the program itself, it's like they took webalizer and added another 3 years of development to it |
| 16:53.55 | redbeard1 | looking at the code.... |
| 16:54.39 | atoponce | isn't tcl essentially just perl? what are the differences? |
| 16:55.07 | redbeard1 | i thought perl borrowed a little from tcl |
| 16:55.37 | redbeard1 | but from what i remember, tcl doesn't do nearly as much |
| 16:55.44 | atoponce | i have no idea, but thy look and behave quite the same |
| 16:57.18 | atoponce | probably not. just hacking a calendar script for my bot last night in tcl, and felt oddly at home with perl |
| 17:00.24 | elg | trackbacks are what I thought you were talking about at first |
| 17:01.40 | elg | some blog software does this ping thing where when a blogger posts something with a link to your blog, his blog pings your blog to let you know he linked to you. then your blog displays the "trackbacks" to the others in the blogosphere that are linking to you |
| 17:01.41 | elg | doesn't take much thought to see how spammers could ruin that |
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| 17:15.30 | levi | tcl isn't at all like perl, though it also aims to be glue. |
| 17:16.45 | levi | tcl is like a brain-dead lisp that thinks everything is a string instead of a list, and has very broken scoping. But you can do some fairly cool things with it. |
| 17:17.09 | levi | If you can handle using constructs like 'upvars'. |
| 17:17.20 | levi | And dealing with quoting issues. |
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| 17:29.08 | rsimpkin1 | Everyone is coming on Wednesday, right? |
| 17:29.28 | redbeard1 | it sure sounds like it |
| 17:29.46 | redbeard1 | i don't know about you, but i'm pretty excited to hear about mod_security |
| 17:30.00 | rsimpkin1 | I'm more excited about the tux cake. |
| 17:30.08 | redbeard1 | the who what? |
| 17:30.38 | rsimpkin1 | 3D tux cake, at least I hope it is still happening. |
| 17:30.49 | redbeard1 | yeah... i should be finishing him up tonight |
| 17:30.59 | rsimpkin1 | Sweet. |
| 17:31.14 | rsimpkin1 | I saw the pic of the pratice tux head you posted. |
| 17:31.18 | rsimpkin1 | Looks complicated. |
| 17:31.26 | redbeard1 | that one was nothing |
| 17:32.00 | rsimpkin1 | So, what is tux anyway? Is he a chocoalte cake guy, or a white/vanilla cake guy? |
| 17:32.13 | redbeard1 | the head is yellow cake and the body is chocolate |
| 17:32.28 | redbeard1 | well, chocolate cake |
| 17:33.03 | rsimpkin1 | Sounds yummy. It will be sad to eat such a piece of art. But I can't wait to take a bite. ;) |
| 17:33.08 | redbeard1 | an he |
| 17:33.11 | redbeard1 | 's very heavy |
| 17:33.29 | rsimpkin1 | I can probably eat one pound of him. |
| 17:33.46 | redbeard1 | oog. go for it. i'm done with cake after this |
| 17:33.50 | redbeard1 | at least for a while |
| 17:33.56 | redbeard1 | a week or two |
| 17:34.12 | rsimpkin1 | Yeah, I imagine this will take hours and hours when it is all said and done. |
| 17:34.29 | redbeard1 | it already has |
| 17:34.40 | rsimpkin1 | I've put about 40 hours in the web site, so I am looking forward to showing that off. |
| 17:34.54 | redbeard1 | yeah, i'm looking forward to that too |
| 17:34.55 | rsimpkin1 | A lot of work is going in to this meeting. |
| 17:34.58 | redbeard1 | it's true |
| 17:35.10 | redbeard1 | not bad for a 10th birthda |
| 17:35.11 | redbeard1 | y |
| 17:35.15 | rsimpkin1 | Jayce^ better have the best dang mod_security presentation of ALL TIME> ;) |
| 17:35.33 | redbeard1 | no kidding |
| 17:35.44 | redbeard1 | i'm off to the store. bbiab. |
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| 17:38.27 | bonez39 | which browser, mozilla, firefox or konqueror allows one to alter how the browser is perceived by web sites? |
| 17:38.49 | rsimpkin1 | opera. ;) |
| 17:39.09 | macnewbold | bonez39: firefox/mozilla can do it too - look for the UserAgentSwitcher extension |
| 17:39.56 | bonez39 | macnewbold, thanks..... |
| 17:40.01 | macnewbold | no prob |
| 17:42.37 | bonez39 | found the file to download, but it told me Firefox can't install it |
| 17:42.58 | bonez39 | I am trying to access a site which requires either IE 6 or Netscape 7.0.... |
| 17:43.14 | bonez39 | I guess I might have to install netscape 7.0 from the tarball, though I'd prefer another option... |
| 17:49.10 | \me | man - wish I could make it Wed. I've got correlation mtg then |
| 17:50.22 | \me | I'm about to reschedule it to Sundays, so maybe I'll ust make that switch this week |
| 17:50.37 | \me | s/ust/just/ |
| 17:54.10 | macnewbold | bonez39: if I remember right, there's a string you can change in about:config that sets the user agent also, but I could be wrong - google might have some answers |
| 17:54.29 | macnewbold | I'm surprised the extension isn't working for you, I've used it even on freebsd-native builds of mozilla/firefox |
| 17:55.26 | macnewbold | you ought to contact the site in question and tell them to fix it... anything firefox/mozilla is pretty much equivalent to netscape 7.0 in its compatibility |
| 17:55.55 | macnewbold | I hate sites that lock you out rather than just giving you a one-time warning that it might not look/behave as expected in an unsupported browser |
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| 18:06.14 | \me | This is going to get confusing. Soon I will have a Linux, Windows, and Mac laptop |
| 18:07.26 | \me | I think my Mac I'll use mainly for home use, the Linux will be my main work, and the Windows will mostly be a paperweight at work |
| 18:08.34 | Tene | yay treo |
| 18:10.40 | sontek_ | I have a mac laptop that runs linux =) |
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| 18:11.09 | bonez39 | ok.... |
| 18:14.29 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 18:15.18 | redbeard1 | bonez39: konq lets you change the useragent string too |
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| 18:21.55 | bonez39 | redbeard1, macnewbold I just used my windows machine..and loaded the site I need with IE...despite trying everything else at my disposal first... |
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| 18:27.48 | redbeard1 | tragic |
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| 18:29.53 | amcnabb | Wow. Django has a builtin Google sitemap generator now. |
| 18:30.02 | amcnabb | That's pretty cool. |
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| 19:28.49 | bonez39 | what might make firefox abruptly CLOSE if I click on a link on a page? |
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| 19:29.09 | bonez39 | I was at java.com and clicked the link to Verify Installation and it just shut firefox down right away |
| 19:29.54 | linuxalien | haha |
| 19:30.33 | bonez39 | damn...it starts to load where i click, but then closes.... |
| 19:30.36 | bonez39 | frustrating |
| 19:32.03 | linuxalien | Destroy! Destroy! |
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| 19:37.01 | goozbach | EX TERM IN ATE! |
| 19:40.56 | [phoenyx] | lol |
| 19:41.30 | graphyx | goozbach: Dr. Who won't be playing again until chrismas. |
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| 19:44.24 | goozbach | I know. Sad, no? |
| 19:45.19 | graphyx | yeah. |
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| 19:45.34 | graphyx | I really should wait till next year around aug. |
| 19:45.40 | graphyx | So I can just watch them back to back, |
| 19:45.48 | graphyx | SO I don't have to wait for each download each week. |
| 19:46.01 | graphyx | Besides by then someone will have the entire season 3 torrent up. |
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| 19:48.08 | goozbach | I'm waiting on the DVD |
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| 19:58.24 | bonez39 | anyone here using evolution, to access email on Exchange? |
| 20:05.20 | goozbach | bonez39: yes |
| 20:05.24 | goozbach | I'm having issues |
| 20:05.38 | goozbach | it doens't seem to sync properly |
| 20:05.52 | goozbach | and I cannot re-create teh problem very regularily |
| 20:06.12 | graphyx | that sTync. |
| 20:06.35 | bonez39 | goozbach, I have access to the admin console for an exchange server for my wife's company...I want to set up my Evolution..so that I can access my email on her server.... |
| 20:07.26 | goozbach | bonez39: that I don't know |
| 20:08.37 | bonez39 | ok.... |
| 20:08.44 | findlay | exchange access for postgres? |
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| 20:29.26 | findlay | ~wikipedia++ |
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| 20:33.03 | herlo | findlay: agreed |
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| 20:59.37 | goozbach | http://www.hlcomic.com/index.php?date=2006-07-26 |
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| 21:13.58 | redbeard1 | anyone here use a usb network adapter in ubuntu? |
| 21:15.43 | redbeard1 | a wireless usb network adapter? |
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| 21:32.02 | beandog | gah. |
| 21:32.13 | beandog | can someone give me a *simple* foo bar vim search-replace example? |
| 21:33.09 | beandog | Oh |
| 21:33.13 | beandog | thats an r not a / |
| 21:33.16 | beandog | that would explain it. |
| 21:33.17 | beandog | hehehehe |
| 21:33.18 | beandog | :) |
| 21:33.19 | nick125_lappy | lol |
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| 21:50.02 | \me | php hash-equivalents are interesting |
| 21:50.25 | \me | I wonder why php chose to call them arrays while every other language calls them hashes (or has tablesL) |
| 21:51.58 | \me | "associative arrays" |
| 21:52.01 | herlo | \me: or maps |
| 21:58.23 | beandog | Hmm. |
| 21:58.34 | beandog | that was much funner when I read that and transposed mtg. and anniversary |
| 21:58.34 | \me | there are too many new members since the last one I attended that I need to put a name w/ a face |
| 21:58.48 | beandog | funnier, gah. |
| 21:58.50 | \me | hehe :-) |
| 21:59.05 | \me | nah - I had a good anniversary this year |
| 22:00.57 | \me | herlo: yet, in Perl, a "map" means something even slightly more different (yet which can be associated w/ a hash) :-) |
| 22:01.32 | \me | it's so confusing programming in so many different languages |
| 22:01.51 | herlo | \me yep, but that's the CompSci term I was taught for what you are talking about... |
| 22:02.13 | \me | yeah - interesting how no one has it right |
| 22:02.41 | \me | "I'm going to map my map" |
| 22:02.51 | \me | "I'm going to map this array" |
| 22:03.06 | \me | "I'm going to map this hash" |
| 22:03.13 | \me | aaargh!!! |
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| 22:07.00 | rsimpkin1 | Jayce^: Has there been a meeting announcment send out to the list? I don't recall seeing one, but that coudl just be me. |
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| 22:14.28 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
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| 22:58.21 | Jayce^ | sorry rsimpkins been busy |
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| 23:20.13 | beandog | Oo |
| 23:20.21 | beandog | Jayce^: I got a google ad for "Mormon Ringtone" on your page. |
| 23:20.22 | beandog | hee hee |
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