| 00:40.52 | elg | -lart *mcnabb |
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| 01:06.20 | elg | mmm. rye bread and cheese |
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| 02:48.32 | elg | that's it. that's the last time I got o blockbuster |
| 02:48.32 | elg | evar |
| 02:56.56 | synic_ | heh, I made that promise 6 years ago. |
| 02:57.06 | synic_ | I haven't rented there since |
| 02:57.12 | synic_ | elg: why? :) |
| 03:02.11 | elg | zero customer service. at least this branch |
| 03:02.48 | elg | i have that rewards card thing, and I get an old-release movie free each month. but a year or so ago they decided to stop mailing the coupons and they'd print at the register |
| 03:03.14 | elg | I checked at that time and the terms said they would print on request |
| 03:03.25 | elg | ie you don't have to rent something first |
| 03:03.50 | elg | but this chick looked at me like I was crazy |
| 03:04.07 | elg | no problem, I'm renting two movies anyway, so I have her check me out the first |
| 03:04.13 | elg | it doesn't print |
| 03:04.32 | elg | she makes no effort to rectify it, even when I say it's part of the contract |
| 03:04.53 | elg | this is the same store that for months badgered us constantly about our home phone not being local. (it was an 866 number) |
| 03:08.43 | synic_ | ah. Mine was $198 in overdue fees for a n64 game that wasn't actually overdue. This was before the lawsuit regarding having fees that were over the cost of the product. |
| 03:08.45 | elg | and I was very underwhelmed by their online service. netflix+hollywood from now on |
| 03:09.27 | synic_ | hollywood has always been good to me :) |
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| 03:51.23 | atoponce | don't upgrade from dapper to edgy knot 2 |
| 03:51.29 | atoponce | you'll regret it |
| 03:51.47 | atoponce | especially on a laptop that you rely on for everything... |
| 03:52.23 | levi_home | When's the release date for edgy? |
| 03:53.52 | atoponce | oct some time |
| 03:54.07 | atoponce | prolly 4 or 5 weeks from now |
| 03:54.24 | levi_home | I'll wait for the final release. :) |
| 03:54.35 | levi_home | I'm pretty happy with breezy, anyway. |
| 03:54.55 | atoponce | yeah. i think i'll even wait a couple weeks after to make sure the big bugs are gone |
| 03:54.59 | levi_home | Breezy's the current one, right? I haven't been using Ubuntu for very long. |
| 03:55.17 | atoponce | no. dapper 6.06.1 |
| 03:55.37 | atoponce | which i am about to reinstall, after i figure out what i need to backup |
| 03:55.39 | levi_home | Oh, yeah, Dapper. |
| 03:55.47 | levi_home | Breezy was the one before that? |
| 03:55.55 | atoponce | yeah |
| 03:56.04 | atoponce | well, here goes |
| 03:56.23 | levi_home | I'm used to Debian, where I only have to learn a new release name once every few years. ;) |
| 03:57.09 | atoponce | hehe. yeah. unum is familiar with that (nudge nudge) |
| 03:58.31 | levi_home | My preferences in the things I like kept up-to-date has changed over time, so Ubuntu fits my usage better now. |
| 04:00.33 | atoponce | there are three things that make ubuntu stand out for me: |
| 04:00.50 | atoponce | 1) out-of-this-world hardware detection |
| 04:00.57 | atoponce | 2) debian with commercial support |
| 04:01.17 | atoponce | 3) 6-month release cycle with gnome |
| 04:09.59 | Sargun | ok. |
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| 04:14.03 | Sargun | hey SpecialK |
| 04:19.03 | SpecialK | 'morning |
| 04:24.05 | Sargun | anyone do webdesign in exchange for credits? |
| 04:53.05 | levi_home | Ahh, perl's 'grep' function is like 'filter' in a sane language. |
| 04:53.59 | findlay | Sargun: you don't want me designing the web |
| 04:54.07 | findlay | trust me |
| 04:55.50 | levi_home | I still think it needs an 'in' operator. |
| 04:58.09 | findlay | levi_home: the last thing perl needs is another operator (: |
| 05:04.33 | Sargun | is there a way to cleanify HTML (make it tabbed)? |
| 05:06.31 | findlay | htmltidy -ic ugly.html shiny.html |
| 05:06.38 | Sargun | what does -c do? |
| 05:06.42 | findlay | css |
| 05:06.44 | Sargun | fun |
| 05:07.01 | levi_home | Woo, I've written programs in 18 languages. |
| 05:07.07 | findlay | (: |
| 05:07.38 | levi_home | With differing degrees of complexity, of course. |
| 05:07.54 | levi_home | If you count 'hello world' programs, at least 21 languages. |
| 05:08.27 | Sargun | Discovery used MS flight sim + Xplane to do graphics |
| 05:16.22 | levi_home | perl seems to work by an astounding series of coincidences rather than by any coherent design. |
| 05:17.28 | levi_home | Sometimes I'll come across a portion of it that seems very elegant and orderly, but those always seem rather out of place. |
| 05:18.07 | levi_home | The number of caveats and special cases in the man pages is astounding. |
| 05:18.17 | nick125_lappy | Perl is just too weird for words |
| 05:19.04 | levi_home | I should just write net-snmp bindings for the Chicken Scheme compiler and be done with it. |
| 05:19.52 | levi_home | Scheme is beautifully elegant and simple, yet supremely powerful. |
| 05:24.12 | atoponce | it's amazing how fast a newly istalled system is |
| 05:27.31 | findlay | yeah, once the bits get worn out it starts to work slower |
| 05:28.02 | atoponce | just need to be recycled |
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| 05:30.41 | herlo | frack |
| 05:31.09 | herlo | trying to recover LVM but it says that I cannot remove a LV so I can recover another... |
| 05:31.22 | atoponce | herlo: ? |
| 05:31.31 | herlo | what |
| 05:31.51 | herlo | atoponce: our 2.2TB LV died Wednesday night |
| 05:32.06 | herlo | and we lost approx 750G of data |
| 05:32.32 | herlo | right now, I am trying to recover approx 800G of data so we can at least use it in the short term |
| 05:33.07 | nick125_lappy | :o |
| 05:33.37 | nick125_lappy | what caused it to die btw? |
| 05:33.46 | herlo | power supply died |
| 05:34.25 | herlo | then, we lost two hard drives due to sparking the power connectors when we were trying to fix it |
| 05:34.44 | herlo | the two drives were in the same software raid 5 set |
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| 05:36.55 | herlo | so far, I've been able to recover a little |
| 05:37.16 | herlo | problem is, the raid drives that crashed were right in the middle of our lvm... |
| 05:37.27 | herlo | and so trying to recover that is being tricky |
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| 05:40.27 | herlo | mainly what I am getting now is that the jfs superblock is corrupt |
| 05:40.41 | herlo | this seems appropriate since I am no only working with 750 GB |
| 05:41.05 | herlo | I need to be able to look at the fs headers or something |
| 05:45.16 | herlo | just ran jfs_tune -l |
| 06:07.54 | herlo | #utah is lame right now... |
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| 06:13.59 | atoponce | man the lag on freenode right now sucks |
| 06:15.16 | atoponce | ~8 seconds... |
| 06:20.20 | Sargun | what server |
| 06:21.04 | Sargun | I love having a 4x3.8Ghz Xeon |
| 06:22.00 | Sargun | its annoying of boot time |
| 06:28.12 | atoponce | Sargun: niven |
| 06:28.23 | Sargun | ag |
| 06:28.24 | Sargun | ah |
| 06:28.30 | Sargun | try clarke |
| 06:28.41 | Sargun | clark is a pretty beefy system |
| 06:28.47 | Sargun | I saw it, its hawt :-P |
| 06:29.15 | atoponce | need to figure out how to specify a server using tor |
| 06:29.53 | atoponce | i think connecting to the hidden service, freenode auto picks one |
| 06:31.25 | Sargun | idk |
| 06:31.31 | Sargun | get a VPS |
| 06:31.35 | Sargun | connect through it |
| 06:31.35 | Sargun | :-P |
| 06:34.16 | Supaplex | well, I'm going to hit the sack now. g'night. |
| 06:34.17 | atoponce | heh |
| 06:37.22 | atoponce | 'night |
| 06:38.10 | Sargun | is standard notation MM/DD/YY |
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| 06:42.57 | atoponce | depends on location and application |
| 06:44.02 | atoponce | YYYY/MM/DD i think is the general accepted standard |
| 06:48.35 | nick125_lappy | theres dd/mm/yyyy |
| 06:48.36 | nick125_lappy | too |
| 06:52.45 | elg | java is such a braindead environment |
| 06:58.24 | nick125_lappy | OMG! you must be reprimanded by the java gods for saying that, elg! |
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| 07:14.58 | elg | i'm just trying to run a java program. just trying to be a user |
| 07:15.13 | elg | it's insane. |
| 07:15.46 | elg | java as a language isn't so bad. it's primarily ugly in the infrastructure |
| 07:17.10 | nick125_lappy | its kinda like mono/C#: the language is good, but, the implementation *sucks* |
| 07:17.42 | elg | if I had to type "java foo.class" that would be endurable |
| 07:18.34 | elg | but "java -classpath launcher.jar blah.foo.blarg.eek.IsalTnaeEEEses2020.MainLib2" is completely unacceptable |
| 07:18.49 | elg | yes, it's bad packaging but java is just as much to blame as the developers |
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| 16:45.08 | findlay | Newsome: have any idea why groklaw would be down? |
| 16:45.54 | findlay | is it actually over, the lawsuit to end all time? |
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| 18:43.55 | Newsome | findlay: apparently, there are currently some DNS problems, and waiting on DNS refresh |
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| 23:00.54 | EpP | hey |
| 23:01.01 | EpP | I got my lenovo today!!! |
| 23:02.12 | Sargun | which model? |
| 23:03.57 | EpP | Z60M |
| 23:04.17 | EpP | with the 1680x1050 screen... and the 760 2ghz processor |
| 23:04.21 | EpP | its a beast |
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| 23:09.45 | EpP | anyone ever set up an eggdrop bot? |
| 23:10.03 | amcnabb | I don't think I've ever even heard of it. |
| 23:11.15 | atoponce | yeah. have one in #oalug, #ubuntu-utah and #botpark |
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| 23:22.10 | EpP | atoponce, i tried to configure one on freenode... but it never connects. |
| 23:22.53 | atoponce | hmmm. let me look at my config |
| 23:25.13 | atoponce | set servers { irc.freenode.net:6667 #another.example.com:7000:password |
| 23:25.13 | atoponce | } |
| 23:25.16 | atoponce | ? |
| 23:25.24 | linuxalien | Wow, nice. Lenovos are nice. |
| 23:25.31 | EpP | yeah, im stoked |
| 23:25.49 | EpP | especially happy about the wxvga screen |
| 23:26.15 | EpP | or whatever... i just know its 1680x1050... and im digging it |
| 23:28.13 | EpP | damnit... i forgot my pass to my shell |
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| 23:35.18 | EpP | is freenode ipv6? |
| 23:36.04 | atoponce | you acn connect to freenode using ip6 |
| 23:36.52 | EpP | how? |
| 23:38.11 | atoponce | not sure. i don't use it. i'm connected to the hidden service using plain old ip4 |
| 23:39.16 | EpP | yeah, because i ws going to use screen and irssi on it so i could connect to irc... but it always says access denied. But it doesnt matter now that i forgot my pass |
| 23:49.55 | Tene | I want a really thick book filled with blank pages labelled "TFM" |
| 23:50.18 | Tene | yeah, freenode is on v6 |
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