| 00:09.44 | elg | I think they meant data conversion analysis ate the data |
| 00:14.16 | Sargun | lol |
| 00:20.16 | harleypig | http://www.teamhoyt.com/ |
| 00:20.18 | brac | [Team Hoyt] |
| 00:20.46 | harleypig | Guy pushes his son through marathons and trathlons ... and beats out 2/3 of the field inmost cases ... |
| 00:20.49 | harleypig | incredible. |
| 00:25.56 | atoponce | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_programming_language |
| 00:26.07 | atoponce | now there's a programming language for you! |
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| 00:32.26 | sontek | Anyone know of a place that can print pictures on a cake? |
| 00:32.40 | sontek | in SLC |
| 00:32.46 | Sargun | um |
| 00:32.51 | Sargun | Do they have safeways there? |
| 00:32.59 | Sargun | or what is the equavelent of safeway |
| 00:33.04 | Sargun | do you already have the cake? |
| 00:33.08 | Sargun | or ? |
| 00:34.04 | sontek | I've got nothing :P |
| 00:37.06 | Sargun | whats your zip code? |
| 00:37.35 | sontek | 84117 |
| 00:38.41 | Sargun | no safeways near you |
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| 00:39.39 | Sargun | hey FIOS man! |
| 00:42.11 | Sargun | Albertson's does it |
| 00:42.32 | Sargun | only one of their stores can give a <24 hour turnaround |
| 00:42.39 | Sargun | lemme get the number really quickly |
| 00:42.46 | vontrapp | great, route y is down for the count |
| 00:42.52 | Sargun | 45th and highland 278-5390 |
| 00:43.04 | Sargun | route y? |
| 00:43.20 | Sargun | 121? |
| 00:44.40 | Sargun | sontek, do you need anything else? |
| 00:48.33 | vontrapp | it's the BYU student website thing |
| 00:48.38 | vontrapp | registration, etc |
| 00:48.43 | Sargun | ah |
| 00:49.51 | vontrapp | "I whiped out the vim gui because of copyright concerns" |
| 00:49.59 | vontrapp | what copyright concerns? |
| 00:50.08 | vontrapp | it's a sad sad world we live in |
| 00:50.25 | vontrapp | when people are afraid of copyright suits even from open source things |
| 00:50.26 | Sargun | heh |
| 00:51.30 | vontrapp | although wikipedia does tend toward the extreme paranoia approach |
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| 01:20.02 | dilvie | hi |
| 01:20.25 | Sargun | kwiwk |
| 01:40.48 | sontek | Thanks Sargun, I'll call them |
| 01:41.03 | Sargun | sontek, no problem -- sorry it took a while -- me is in california |
| 01:41.21 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: why are you in a channel called #utah if you are in california? |
| 01:41.33 | Sargun | umm |
| 01:41.34 | Sargun | I dono |
| 01:41.40 | Sargun | because my LUG's channel is borin |
| 01:41.41 | Sargun | ' |
| 01:47.37 | dilvie | =) |
| 01:56.58 | Sargun | I mean you guys have the asterisk god, we have the SMGL god |
| 02:11.43 | Sargun | is there a META value I can put that says not to cache a page? |
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| 02:24.55 | dilvie | sargun: what language? |
| 02:26.35 | Sargun | never mind -- figured it out |
| 02:27.31 | nick125_lappy | Sargun: thanks to me! |
| 02:27.35 | elg | -lart ibot |
| 02:27.40 | elg | brac, you idiot |
| 02:28.13 | dilvie | elg - fix my plugin! =) |
| 02:28.26 | dilvie | my new system is rockin' and I want to make some music! |
| 02:28.28 | dilvie | =) |
| 02:28.43 | elg | ok, gonna be around tomorrow? |
| 02:28.49 | dilvie | I should be |
| 02:28.55 | dilvie | early afternoon |
| 02:29.27 | elg | ok, I'll work on it in the morning/midday and we'll see if we can't get it going |
| 02:30.49 | dilvie | that would rock. =) |
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| 02:31.27 | elg | -lart ibot |
| 02:32.20 | dilvie | http://www.myspace.com/mybrightestdiamond <-- cool band with female vocals |
| 02:35.28 | Sargun | ~myspace |
| 02:35.30 | ibot | myspace is, like, the root of all evil |
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| 02:38.41 | dilvie | MySpace band pages are often better than the band's homepage, because you can listen to the tracks right away |
| 02:39.13 | dilvie | and there are actually quite a few great bands on myspace |
| 02:39.49 | dilvie | Another good example: http://www.myspace.com/mutemath |
| 02:43.02 | elg | bands are the exception |
| 02:43.15 | elg | for bands, myspace is business. :) |
| 02:53.58 | dilvie | http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.showDetails&Band_Show_ID=7264141&friendid=3204454 |
| 02:54.08 | dilvie | MuteMath is coming in concert. |
| 02:54.11 | dilvie | Mute Math =) |
| 02:54.15 | dilvie | this month! |
| 02:54.22 | dilvie | go, click, buy tickets! |
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| 04:38.47 | Sargun | hey all you asterisk gurus -- is there some sort of device that I can plug a T1/E1 into one side, and it will be a phone block on the other side? |
| 04:59.02 | elg | like a channel bank? |
| 05:37.53 | dilvie | hmm |
| 05:49.24 | Sargun | I am thinking of implmenting VoIP to the masses: |
| 05:49.25 | Sargun | http://pastebin.ca/158557 |
| 05:49.33 | Sargun | how would I go from COX to PHX |
| 05:49.43 | Sargun | NOC to COX would be a T1 (dry) |
| 05:49.49 | Sargun | but I need a cross connect |
| 05:50.12 | Sargun | So I'd terminate at a channel bank in the CO |
| 05:50.18 | Sargun | would I get a cross connect |
| 05:50.26 | Sargun | and how much do cross connects cost? |
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| 06:41.52 | findlay | I hate the computer |
| 06:45.11 | Sargun | lol |
| 06:51.18 | findlay | it empowers evil bureacracies of men wholly malelovent but puerile as to competence in this information age to rob me of my privacy and usurp my Bill of Rights protected freedoms through illegitimate claims to precedence because of "security" |
| 06:53.02 | findlay | security is not worth sacrificing freedom for |
| 07:01.11 | harleypig | Hey, anyone here know maddox? |
| 07:17.13 | Sargun | not personally. |
| 07:17.17 | Sargun | he is in utah |
| 07:17.21 | Sargun | which I find funny. |
| 07:36.32 | findlay | ~find |
| 07:36.49 | findlay | ~find funny |
| 07:37.03 | findlay | ~find maddox |
| 07:37.14 | findlay | great |
| 07:37.38 | findlay | now I've just started churning cycles on timriker's ibot computer |
| 07:38.41 | findlay | but what about 'funny'? There's got to be a package for that |
| 07:39.01 | findlay | doesn't debian have a package for everything? |
| 07:43.54 | findlay | guess I shouldn't have doubted |
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| 14:50.18 | graphyx | ~say -lart ibot |
| 14:50.29 | ibot | -lart ibot |
| 14:50.30 | graphyx | that is how you get the two of them into a fight. |
| 14:50.53 | graphyx | ~say -say ~;art brac |
| 14:50.57 | ibot | -say ~;art brac |
| 14:50.57 | brac | insufficient "say" auth (have 10, need 70) |
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| 15:29.52 | graphyx | ~ping |
| 15:30.00 | ibot | pong |
| 15:30.12 | graphyx | ibot, I prefer tennis, but whatever. |
| 15:30.14 | ibot | You prefer tennis, but whatever.? |
| 15:30.24 | graphyx | ibot, yes |
| 15:30.25 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 15:30.43 | graphyx | ibot, you are soo witty. |
| 15:30.44 | ibot | graphyx: I think you lost me on that one |
| 15:31.04 | atoponce | response is slow: 4-8s. 6s avg |
| 15:31.13 | graphyx | yeah. |
| 15:31.24 | atoponce | must be some early torrent troding on tor today |
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| 16:09.18 | elg | dilvie: haas.dll loads into renoise here |
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| 16:14.30 | elg | dilvie: and it's not linked to cygwin.dll so that wouldn't be it. |
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| 17:30.50 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.42 | vontrapp | ~rlart |
| 19:20.52 | Sargun | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.33 | dilvie | elg still here? |
| 19:43.44 | elg | yeah |
| 19:44.10 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 19:44.23 | vontrapp | dilvie: he's busy with perl |
| 19:44.59 | dilvie | elg: I'm going to test haas. |
| 19:45.07 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 19:45.30 | vontrapp | d'oh |
| 19:54.40 | dilvie | brb |
| 19:54.45 | dilvie | rebooting. |
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| 20:04.04 | dilvie | elg: it loaded |
| 20:04.11 | dilvie | couple quick notes |
| 20:04.17 | dilvie | do the lfo features work? |
| 20:04.33 | dilvie | ur, I mean LPF |
| 20:05.11 | dilvie | the Cuto abreviation is confussing.. It should be spelled out, or abreviated, 'LFO Cut' |
| 20:05.27 | dilvie | ur LPF |
| 20:05.31 | dilvie | why do I keep doing that? |
| 20:06.52 | dilvie | anyway, I'm not sure what LPF Cros is supposed to mean, even though I know what it does. =) |
| 20:07.32 | dilvie | Maybe you could just call that LPF? |
| 20:07.58 | elg | Cuto? |
| 20:08.16 | elg | It's LPF Crossfade |
| 20:08.57 | dilvie | ahh.. I like it when I know what it stands for. =) |
| 20:09.09 | dilvie | does it work right now? |
| 20:09.15 | elg | not abbreviated, unless by your software |
| 20:09.18 | dilvie | I'm about to try testing it, if it's not gonna crash. =) |
| 20:09.24 | dilvie | oh. |
| 20:09.26 | dilvie | hrm |
| 20:09.32 | elg | oic, renoise cuts both those names off |
| 20:09.39 | dilvie | yeah, it does. |
| 20:09.44 | dilvie | frustrating, eh? |
| 20:09.50 | elg | I can rename them to whatever you like. :) |
| 20:09.54 | elg | it won't crash, no |
| 20:10.07 | elg | detune is disabled in the last one I sent to you, but otherwise works |
| 20:10.17 | elg | disabled as in does nothing |
| 20:13.56 | dilvie | elg: the pan slider is inverted |
| 20:14.24 | dilvie | elg: swap the effect on the pan slider |
| 20:14.39 | elg | are you sure? |
| 20:14.40 | dilvie | I think. |
| 20:14.42 | elg | left pans left |
| 20:14.44 | elg | right pans right |
| 20:14.51 | elg | yes, it's opposite the delay slider above it |
| 20:15.01 | elg | because delaying left makes it sound like right is closer |
| 20:15.07 | dilvie | it should be the same as the delay slider |
| 20:15.15 | elg | so invert the delay slider |
| 20:15.22 | dilvie | maybe my speaker cables are swapped. =) |
| 20:15.52 | dilvie | the idea of the l/r settings is to make it so that when you drag a slider to the right, it sounds more like the sound is coming from the right |
| 20:15.57 | dilvie | I want it to be very intuitive. |
| 20:16.21 | elg | ok. that's what I thought, but you said earlier to leave the delay slider like it is. nothing like actually using it, is there? :) |
| 20:16.37 | dilvie | I must have got confused. =) |
| 20:16.40 | dilvie | that happens |
| 20:16.47 | dilvie | I'm a bit brain-dead sometimes. |
| 20:17.07 | dilvie | I'm very pleased with the way it's coming along, though. |
| 20:17.19 | dilvie | If the detune slider worked, I'd say let's do a beta release right now. =) |
| 20:17.56 | dilvie | This is already shaping up to be MUCH more usable than the typical echo / delay effects that people are currently using to pull this off. |
| 20:18.14 | dilvie | I'm stoked. =) |
| 20:18.58 | elg | i'm working on detune now. pretty close, or way far off |
| 20:19.07 | elg | depending on whether this algo works :) |
| 20:20.28 | dilvie | okay, I've varified that my speaker cables are hooked up correctly, now.. I'll test those other sliders properly. |
| 20:20.54 | dilvie | swap delay function |
| 20:21.04 | atoponce | PDT = what time zone? |
| 20:21.15 | dilvie | Pan is okay. |
| 20:21.22 | dilvie | Pacific Daylight Time? |
| 20:21.50 | dilvie | LPF Crossfade needs swapping, too. |
| 20:22.05 | dilvie | so, swap delay and LPF crossfade |
| 20:22.07 | atoponce | hmm. then 7 hours until SMART-1 crashes into the moon |
| 20:22.39 | dilvie | and swap the cutoff values (so they run from 18000 - 0) |
| 20:23.31 | elg | why the cutoff? |
| 20:23.49 | dilvie | and can you change the LPF scale so that there's more resolution in the 200 - 4000hz range? That's where the effect will be most noticed, and I suspect a lot of people will do settings in that range. |
| 20:24.09 | elg | how does logarithmic sound? |
| 20:24.17 | dilvie | the cutoff because, the lower the setting, the more intense the effect becomes |
| 20:24.26 | dilvie | log should work |
| 20:24.36 | elg | ok |
| 20:25.40 | dilvie | I know it's counter-intuitive from a programming perspective to have lower numbers at the high end of the slider scale, but people will be setting this with their ears, not their eyes. =) |
| 20:26.01 | dilvie | it will be very intuitive for regular users |
| 20:26.14 | dilvie | and I suspect this effect will be in the signal chain of almost everything in the mix. |
| 20:35.10 | atoponce | http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/30aug_smart1.htm |
| 20:35.35 | atoponce | should be clear view of the moon tonight |
| 20:49.06 | dilvie | elg: Is your detune bug related to the denormal CPU feature? |
| 20:49.08 | dilvie | http://www.musicdsp.org/phpWiki/index.php/What%20is%20a%20denormal%20number%3F |
| 20:53.03 | elg | dilvie: to me it's all the same. easy enough to adjust my mental picture, easier than most would find I'm sure. programming it that way is another thing but not too difficult. :) |
| 20:53.11 | elg | denormal cpu? |
| 20:53.37 | dilvie | read the wiki page I linked |
| 20:53.51 | dilvie | when you're doing any sort of dsp plugin, you need to write it so that it's denormal friendly |
| 20:53.52 | elg | ah. no I don't think that's anything to do with it |
| 20:53.57 | dilvie | which is very, very easy. |
| 20:54.01 | elg | at the moment it only uses about 5% of cpu |
| 20:54.14 | elg | but it just doesn't sound good enough |
| 20:54.23 | elg | have you seen this? http://www.animusic.com/clips/resonant-chamber.html |
| 20:54.44 | dilvie | You still need to make it denormal friendly, whether you notice the bug or not.. you probably can't predict the numbers that'll be going through the plugin. |
| 20:55.39 | dilvie | I haven't seen that one, but I've seen other.s |
| 20:55.42 | dilvie | others, rather. |
| 21:07.56 | dilvie | elg: I wonder if we should add a HPF, identical to the LPF in all other respects? |
| 21:08.25 | dilvie | Of course, on that one, the cutoff numbers would run from low to high, instead of high to low... |
| 21:08.51 | dilvie | that could be really cool. =) |
| 21:08.56 | dilvie | Let's do it! =) |
| 21:14.06 | Sargun | ~translate 7: If anyone blinds a free man or knocks out his teeth, they would formerly give 1 mina of silver, now he shall give 20 shekels of silver and pledge his estate as security. |
| 21:14.08 | Sargun | heh |
| 21:14.34 | Sargun | if I knocked out someones teeth, I'd have to give them 1 mina, and 20 shekels of silver |
| 21:14.41 | Sargun | and then pledge my estate to them? |
| 21:15.15 | vontrapp | just 20 sheckels and pledge your estate |
| 21:15.25 | Sargun | then whats the 1 mina? |
| 21:15.28 | vontrapp | it was once 1 mina |
| 21:15.38 | Sargun | oh |
| 21:15.39 | vontrapp | "formerly..., now..." |
| 21:15.42 | Sargun | yeah |
| 21:15.50 | Sargun | but why would they include that in a document of law? |
| 21:16.06 | vontrapp | what is this from? |
| 21:16.13 | dilvie | wtf? |
| 21:16.16 | Sargun | AP history |
| 21:16.19 | Sargun | teacher |
| 21:16.27 | vontrapp | what law/nation? |
| 21:16.30 | Sargun | eastern law codes: |
| 21:16.30 | Sargun | Centered in southern Turkey, the Hittite Empire first emerged around 2000 B.C.E., and reached its height in the period between 1370 and 1180 B.C.E. |
| 21:16.54 | Sargun | dang |
| 21:17.04 | Sargun | you lose your estate for breaking someones foot |
| 21:17.29 | dilvie | Laws like that seem to me to make rich people above the law. |
| 21:17.45 | dilvie | Knock out somebody's teeth, pay out some pocket change.. |
| 21:18.09 | dilvie | "dude, it was so worth it." |
| 21:18.20 | Sargun | heh |
| 21:18.44 | Sargun | I don't think anyone said "dude" in 1180 BC |
| 21:19.07 | dilvie | Sargun: Can you be sure? |
| 21:19.25 | Sargun | no |
| 21:19.37 | dilvie | my point stands. |
| 21:19.38 | dilvie | =) |
| 21:19.40 | dilvie | hehe |
| 21:20.15 | Sargun | well you'd get your estate back in a while |
| 21:20.56 | Sargun | dilvie, I don't think a rich person would want to pledge all their land |
| 21:23.35 | dilvie | Good point. |
| 21:25.44 | elg | sent |
| 21:25.53 | elg | er, dilvie: sent the latest ui changes |
| 21:28.02 | elg | dilvie: do you have cygwin? |
| 21:28.34 | elg | and do you want to start hacking? you could probably add a HPF easy enough based on my LPF |
| 21:29.32 | dilvie | http://www.musicdsp.org/phpWiki/index.php/Denormals?PHPSESSID=b9daf2129bc1c87f7046d8e1132c563e |
| 21:29.45 | dilvie | I do have cygwin |
| 21:30.28 | elg | it's just a makefile in cygwin, no special build env |
| 21:30.46 | elg | you do need the mingw32 stuff installed from the cygwin installer, but that's easy |
| 21:30.57 | dilvie | yeah, I can add that. |
| 21:31.36 | dilvie | I wasn't planning on doing any cygwin hacking, or I'd already have it installed. |
| 21:31.44 | dilvie | I did on my last box. =) |
| 21:31.53 | dilvie | Seems like every time I leave it out, I find a reason to install it. |
| 21:32.34 | dilvie | I always install cygwin, if only to have a bash prompt instead of the horrible command prompt included with XP |
| 21:32.36 | elg | you can use darcs (not hard) or you can manually make patches - your choice. darcs repo is http://hans.fugal.net/src/haas |
| 21:33.35 | elg | now to wrap my brain around this detuning thing and see if I can figure out what's going on |
| 21:34.24 | dilvie | cool. =) |
| 21:41.50 | Sargun | how much more is a mina than a shekel? |
| 21:42.57 | dilvie | elg; are the interface tweaks on the darcs repo now? |
| 21:43.26 | Sargun | mina |
| 21:43.26 | Sargun | ?An ancient coin worth 500 shekels (a more common coin) |
| 21:43.32 | Sargun | holy crap thats alotta money |
| 21:44.05 | dilvie | what could a Shekel buy? |
| 21:45.00 | Sargun | lets see. |
| 21:45.14 | Sargun | a fake tooth |
| 21:45.39 | Sargun | 1/20th of a baby |
| 21:46.06 | Sargun | wait a fake tooth is 1/2 of a mina -- so ~250 shekel |
| 21:46.38 | Sargun | dilvie, 1/10th of a slap |
| 21:46.51 | Sargun | basically -- not very much |
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| 21:56.30 | vontrapp | what's the deal with all these story spamas? |
| 21:56.33 | vontrapp | spams |
| 21:58.20 | dilvie | elg: Something very odd happens when you chain two haas plugins together. |
| 21:59.08 | dilvie | elg: uh, oh. Even two instances on different channels causes issues. |
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| 22:27.51 | Sargun | Whats a good Linux CAD editor?: |
| 22:27.57 | Sargun | 3d |
| 22:30.36 | atoponce | anyone know of a gui network traffic analyzer? i need to see average load on certain ports in real time |
| 22:31.01 | atoponce | among other stats |
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| 22:57.25 | elg | iftop |
| 23:00.22 | atoponce | i've been using iptraf. seems to be pretty comprehensive |
| 23:16.32 | Sargun | ntop |
| 23:16.34 | Sargun | iptraf |
| 23:16.41 | Sargun | um |
| 23:16.55 | Sargun | iptables with parsing script |
| 23:25.44 | Sargun | mrtg |
| 23:27.59 | *** join/#utah linuxalien (i=linuxali@gateway/tor/x-673d5bf454f8768b) |
| 23:28.04 | Sargun | wtf |
| 23:35.49 | linuxalien | ftw! |