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| 00:23.36 | dilvie | w00t |
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| 00:23.42 | dilvie | testing my new system. |
| 00:24.07 | graphyx | did it work? |
| 00:24.11 | dilvie | It has some heat/stability issues, still (in 3D games), but other than that, it totally rocks. |
| 00:24.18 | graphyx | cool. |
| 00:25.03 | dilvie | I went out of my way to get a passive gfx card (7600 GS), and it turns out, the stock cooler isn't cutting it. I'm going to add a quiet 120mm case intake fan, and see if that helps. |
| 00:25.36 | graphyx | well. |
| 00:25.47 | graphyx | If the rest of the system is hot.. a passive device doesn't do any good. |
| 00:26.13 | dilvie | The CPU has a passive cooler, too. =) |
| 00:26.26 | dilvie | It's running at 47 C right now. |
| 00:26.26 | graphyx | low wattage amd? |
| 00:26.30 | dilvie | Nope. |
| 00:26.39 | dilvie | It's a Pentium D 805 |
| 00:26.40 | graphyx | shame |
| 00:27.10 | dilvie | Once I've got the ambient heat problem solved, I'm probably going to overclock it to ~3.4 GHz. |
| 00:27.20 | graphyx | cool. |
| 00:27.24 | dilvie | I was aiming for 3.6, but it looks like that's gonna be pushing it. |
| 00:27.25 | graphyx | err... nifty |
| 00:27.28 | graphyx | but not cool. |
| 00:27.52 | dilvie | I guess I expected a bit too much from these passive coolers. =) |
| 00:28.00 | dilvie | I like that the system is almost dead silent, though. |
| 00:28.07 | graphyx | if you are overclocking passive cooling, I would have to agree. |
| 00:28.09 | dilvie | I can't hear it at all. |
| 00:28.20 | graphyx | That rocks. |
| 00:28.24 | graphyx | What did you do with yoru old system? |
| 00:28.32 | dilvie | It's in my living room. |
| 00:28.39 | dilvie | I'm thinking of turning it into an HTPC |
| 00:29.17 | dilvie | I'll just need to replace the case and video card, and hook it up to the network so I can access my 600 GB RAID 5 that I've got in the new machine. |
| 00:30.10 | dilvie | I'm thrilled with the RAID performance. I'm getting 100MB / Sec sustained transfer rates. |
| 00:30.47 | dilvie | I thought I'd take a huge latency hit, too (because of the RAID parity), but that didn't happen. Avg seek time is only 12 ms |
| 00:31.16 | dilvie | ur |
| 00:31.18 | dilvie | ns? |
| 00:31.27 | dilvie | lemme check |
| 00:31.32 | dilvie | that makes a big difference. |
| 00:31.42 | dilvie | it must be ms, 'cause ram timing is measured in ns |
| 00:32.07 | graphyx | fun fun. |
| 00:32.12 | graphyx | my system is like 4 years old. |
| 00:32.16 | graphyx | tgetting time to put a new one together. |
| 00:38.12 | dilvie | I was way off |
| 00:38.18 | dilvie | random access time is 5 ms |
| 00:39.57 | dilvie | other than the WD Raptor arrays, this raid setup blows the pants off of all the other SATA RAIDs I have scores for. |
| 00:40.38 | dilvie | I'm very happy with that. Good drive performance was pretty close to the top of my wishlist for this system. |
| 00:40.44 | graphyx | cool. |
| 00:40.55 | graphyx | I want to get a LANdrive system myself. |
| 00:41.05 | graphyx | with like 500 Gigs or so. |
| 00:41.13 | graphyx | such that I don't ever run out of space. |
| 00:44.05 | dilvie | what are the features of the LANDrive? |
| 00:44.45 | graphyx | I mean a system with tons of storage meant for use on the Lan. |
| 00:44.52 | graphyx | like a NAs drive. |
| 00:45.00 | graphyx | (That is what I meant) NAS network attached Storage. |
| 00:45.04 | herlo | #utos meeting 15minutes... |
| 00:45.39 | graphyx | What does that have to do with NAS? |
| 00:45.41 | graphyx | ;) |
| 00:45.43 | dilvie | oh, I thought you were referring to the LANDrive NAS |
| 00:46.03 | graphyx | no. |
| 00:46.08 | dilvie | cool. |
| 00:46.11 | graphyx | Just couldn't think f the right term |
| 00:46.46 | graphyx | s/f/of/ |
| 00:50.17 | dilvie | It was cheaper for me to build a workstation with internal storage than to build two separate machines, or buy an adequate NAS and still build the workstation. |
| 00:51.19 | graphyx | dilvie: I don't know what I would od. |
| 00:51.27 | graphyx | But I would want to the NAs to be on all the time. |
| 00:52.27 | dilvie | If I had an unlimited budget, I'd build a dedicated NAS with a cheap CPU, motherboard, and graphics adaptor, and connect it via Gigabit LAN |
| 00:52.47 | dilvie | I'd probably start with 1TB |
| 00:53.11 | dilvie | I know I'm always going to want more storage. |
| 00:53.30 | dilvie | it would be cool to archive my entire movie collection on the RAID |
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| 00:54.11 | dilvie | I'd probably build my own NAS so that I could make it a RAID 5 system, and install various file serving interfaces |
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| 00:55.32 | graphyx | cool. |
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| 00:59.06 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 00:59.17 | dilvie | hi |
| 00:59.27 | levi_home | How's it going? |
| 01:02.51 | dilvie | good. =) |
| 01:04.12 | graphyx | dilvie just got a new system running. |
| 01:11.34 | findlay | Good evening, Mr. Levi. I trust you are in good spirits? |
| 01:13.32 | levi_home | Indeed. |
| 01:13.43 | levi_home | I'm trying to figure out where I need to go to get a document notarized. |
| 01:13.43 | graphyx | he's at home.. so why not.. |
| 01:13.46 | herlo | ~seen Jayce^ |
| 01:14.03 | ibot | jayce^ is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 5h 40m 6s, last said: '~rlart'. |
| 01:14.04 | graphyx | levi_home: try a bank |
| 01:14.04 | findlay | levi_home: my dad can do it |
| 01:14.04 | graphyx | uccu will do it. |
| 01:14.07 | graphyx | for free if you have an account. |
| 01:14.33 | findlay | your neighborhood lawyer can probably do it too |
| 01:14.47 | graphyx | no. |
| 01:14.52 | graphyx | They have to be a notary public. |
| 01:14.55 | levi_home | I'll probably go to my bank during lunch. |
| 01:15.11 | findlay | graphyx: what does that mean? |
| 01:15.31 | graphyx | a notary public is someone who has been authorized to notarize documents. |
| 01:15.42 | graphyx | they have a training class and a background check of sorts |
| 01:15.51 | graphyx | and register to notarize documents for a period. |
| 01:15.57 | findlay | but I thought most lawyers have the cert out of convenience |
| 01:16.16 | graphyx | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notary_public |
| 01:16.27 | graphyx | It is possible. |
| 01:16.33 | graphyx | nothing said that they couldn't |
| 01:17.09 | findlay | that's what I meant, quite obliquely, not by virtue of being a lawyer (: |
| 01:21.00 | graphyx | In fact, it made me wonder if some of the lawyers would be able to pass the ethic portion of the qualifications. |
| 01:21.07 | graphyx | ethical* |
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| 01:41.10 | dilvie | elg: hey, did you ever figure out why that haas plugin doesn't show up on my plugin lists? |
| 01:41.21 | elg | no, I haven't |
| 01:41.56 | dilvie | ); |
| 01:46.42 | findlay | radio-sack |
| 01:46.44 | findlay | heh |
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| 02:01.25 | findlay | I think Linux should have a mandantory startup sound |
| 02:01.40 | findlay | everybody's doing it these days |
| 02:03.37 | findlay | "I don't think so, Dave." |
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| 02:41.18 | vontrapp | i vaguely remember something saying that you could use some kind of google location code in the location part of a calendar event |
| 02:41.28 | vontrapp | but now i can't find it |
| 02:41.49 | vontrapp | anyone know anything about that? |
| 02:55.31 | Tene | So... anyone here used gimp on windows before? |
| 03:01.04 | herlo | Tene: I have |
| 03:01.23 | Tene | apparently it got "really broken" for my sister, so she removed it and installed it again |
| 03:01.27 | Tene | and now there are no filters. |
| 03:02.54 | herlo | ew |
| 03:03.03 | herlo | Tene: I've never had that happen... |
| 03:03.28 | Tene | also, it won't load or save jpegs. |
| 03:04.07 | herlo | probably related to gtk |
| 03:04.34 | herlo | and the crappy windows registry |
| 03:04.52 | herlo | s/and/and\/or/g |
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| 04:12.56 | tensai | ~lart elg |
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| 04:24.11 | Sargun | where is the pacific rim (asia)? |
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| 05:36.38 | rsimpkins | ~closet |
| 05:42.03 | Sargun | ? |
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| 07:13.50 | Sargun | heh |
| 07:13.53 | Sargun | lol |
| 07:14.21 | rsimpkins | I'm here - but need to sleep very soon. |
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| 13:42.44 | levi | Morning. |
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| 14:20.44 | elg | -lart tensai |
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| 14:26.13 | scott | Is spamassassin the best protection for a linux mail server? |
| 14:26.38 | elg | I find most computer cases are adequate protection |
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| 14:40.23 | emcnabb | scott: what do you mean by "protection"? |
| 14:41.30 | scott | blocking spam |
| 14:42.27 | herlo | scott: check out greylisting, used in combination with something like dspam or spamassassin, it's pretty effective |
| 14:44.28 | [Utah]tristanbob | and in combination with antivirus scanning |
| 14:44.55 | [Utah]tristanbob | like amavisd or my favorite, MailScanner (which includes phishing protections) |
| 14:45.41 | [Utah]tristanbob | Mailscanner combines spamassassin and the anti-virus - it is what I have used successfully in the past |
| 14:49.08 | [Utah]tristanbob | http://www.mailscanner.info/ |
| 14:49.10 | brac | [::: Official Home Page for MailScanner - Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam Filter :::] |
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| 15:02.13 | [Utah]tristanbob | and if you don't know, there are two FREE antivirus engines (ClamAV which is open source, and BitDefender which is commercial) It is best to use at least two scanners so they can catch what the other one misses |
| 15:06.07 | elg | using two can't hurt |
| 15:06.27 | elg | i personally don't find it worth the effort |
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| 15:10.26 | \me | first days on the job are so boring |
| 15:11.26 | \me | waiting for computers, filling out hr docs, reading handbooks, orientation |
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| 15:12.03 | \me | it is kind of relaxing I guess |
| 15:14.05 | elg | switch jobs? |
| 15:15.13 | \me | yeah - working for United Health Group/Ingenix now |
| 15:15.31 | \me | Backcountry was full of unfulfilled promises |
| 15:15.46 | \me | and a lot of inexperience |
| 15:16.08 | elg | and hicks? |
| 15:16.32 | \me | yeah - a lot of hippies at least |
| 15:17.21 | \me | the average age there is around 22-25 and most of the management there has no previous management experience |
| 15:17.42 | \me | very few of the developers there have worked in large companies outside of backcountry, too |
| 15:17.50 | \me | or any company I guess |
| 15:18.10 | \me | great deals on gear though |
| 15:18.29 | \me | and you get to come as late as you want and leave as early as you want |
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| 15:20.34 | levi | I thought you liked it there. Huh. |
| 15:21.26 | \me | I liked what I did there - didn't like the environment though |
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| 15:22.47 | herlo | [Utah]tristanbob: I didn't much care for MailScanner, but I probably didn't get it setup to well... |
| 15:23.16 | herlo | seemed very bloated and didn't work all that well... |
| 15:25.07 | [Utah]tristanbob | what os and mailserver? |
| 15:28.02 | [Utah]tristanbob | herlo: it may be bloated - it tries to do a lot of things - but it is updated regularily and is very configurable |
| 15:39.23 | herlo | I guess I'll have to dig around a bit more on it...and find some sort of reason to use it.... |
| 15:43.29 | \me | man - this macbook has awesome battery life |
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| 16:00.11 | scott | greylisting sounds like it has lots of downsides. legitimate mailers might think their mail didn't arrive, mail will be delayed, and some legitimate mail won't arrive. |
| 16:04.40 | fungus | legitimate mail should arrive as long as they adhere to standards (retries). |
| 16:07.26 | \me | what about internationally? are all standards international? |
| 16:07.41 | rsimpkins | There are standards for e-mail? What you say? |
| 16:10.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Whatever standards exist plain and simple don't |
| 16:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | How many different ways can you run a mailserver? With how many other plugins, spam filters, virus scanners, grey/white/blacklisting software? |
| 16:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | s/software?/software packages?/ |
| 16:21.21 | herlo | scott: greylisting works though. Spam has been reduced very significantly on my machine. It's currently the only spam prevention I use... |
| 16:24.57 | levi | The only time I notice greylisting is when I need one of those account confirmation emails. |
| 16:25.00 | \me | I think it's good for an individual user that can afford an e-mail or two not to appear, but for a large corporation that has customers it has to respect, I'm not sure it's the best idea |
| 16:28.04 | amcnabb | \me, messages don't get dropped. They get delayed. |
| 16:28.09 | amcnabb | There's a big difference. |
| 16:37.52 | herlo | amcnabb: I agree |
| 16:38.31 | herlo | any self-respecting smtp server should allow those messages to be resent, even if they're coming from an automated program.... |
| 16:41.54 | amcnabb | I've never heard of one that doesn't. |
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| 17:20.05 | elg | of course there's standards. how else do you expect mail to be delivered? |
| 17:21.02 | elg | the only downside to greylisting is an occasional configurable delay. Not getting mail from idiots who can't use an smtp-compliant mailserver doesn't really count in my book. there are any number of reasons why idiots not using an smtp-compliant mail server might not be able to send their mail to |
| 17:21.12 | elg | me or anyone else |
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| 17:45.45 | redbeard2 | ^Migs^: hey, you there? |
| 17:46.00 | elg | redbeard2: Hey, you there? |
| 17:46.10 | redbeard2 | ~lart elg |
| 17:56.15 | ^Migs^ | yes, I am arriven |
| 17:56.38 | redbeard2 | ^Migs^: did you used to know somebody that went by rilokiley? |
| 17:56.52 | ^Migs^ | That name sounds familiar |
| 17:57.06 | redbeard2 | it would have been in a chat room |
| 17:57.19 | ^Migs^ | was it ldschat or sumtin? |
| 17:57.25 | redbeard2 | yeah |
| 17:57.27 | ^Migs^ | I haven't been there in a long time |
| 17:57.43 | ^Migs^ | well, I dropped in last night to harass some people, but that's it |
| 17:57.56 | redbeard2 | you live up in ogden? |
| 17:57.59 | ^Migs^ | Great. We both have a common cyberfriend. |
| 17:58.05 | ^Migs^ | and this means....absolutely nothing. |
| 17:58.05 | redbeard2 | kind of |
| 17:58.10 | redbeard2 | she's my wife |
| 17:58.13 | ^Migs^ | OH |
| 17:58.14 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 17:58.19 | ^Migs^ | well, that's cool |
| 17:58.24 | ^Migs^ | I live in Roy. ogden area. |
| 17:58.38 | redbeard2 | she glanced at my computer a few minutes ago and asked who ^Migs^ was |
| 17:59.09 | ^Migs^ | hmm |
| 17:59.12 | redbeard2 | that's kind of cool |
| 17:59.19 | redbeard2 | small world, eh? |
| 17:59.28 | ^Migs^ | uh |
| 17:59.49 | ^Migs^ | I guess. They're both primarily Utah-based chat rooms. I don't think it's really that far-fetched to expect something like that to happen. |
| 18:00.06 | redbeard2 | i guess |
| 18:00.15 | ^Migs^ | sorry I'm not all OMGWOWCOOL |
| 18:00.28 | redbeard2 | i had no idea my wife used to hang around lds chat rooms. i don't know many people that do. |
| 18:00.48 | ^Migs^ | nor do I. Chat rooms are for losers. |
| 18:00.59 | redbeard2 | no kidding. what the heck, man. |
| 18:01.36 | ^Migs^ | buncha anti-social freaks |
| 18:02.08 | redbeard2 | they do nothing but sit at the computer all day |
| 18:02.56 | ^Migs^ | especially ldschat. It's the last meat market chat room site out there, afaik |
| 18:02.56 | ^Migs^ | everyone trying to "hook up" and stuff it seems |
| 18:03.45 | redbeard2 | yeah, my wife was just telling me stories about it |
| 18:04.04 | redbeard2 | i guess my landlord and his girlfriend used to hang out there too. i had no idea. |
| 18:04.23 | ^Migs^ | it's probably for the best you've been clueless |
| 18:04.35 | redbeard2 | probably |
| 18:04.44 | redbeard2 | ignorance is bliss |
| 18:05.10 | ^Migs^ | incidentally, though, I met my wife in there years ago, although I certainly never expected to marry anyone from a chat room. Especially that one, because all I did was go in there and piss people off. |
| 18:05.21 | redbeard2 | heh |
| 18:05.41 | ^Migs^ | things have a funny way of working out |
| 18:05.45 | redbeard2 | aye |
| 18:07.16 | goozbach | being sick SUCKS |
| 18:07.26 | goozbach | ~give goozbach chicken noodle soup |
| 18:07.29 | ibot | ACTION gives chicken noodle soup to goozbach |
| 18:07.54 | redbeard2 | ~laugh at goozbach |
| 18:07.56 | ibot | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! goozbach just cracks me up! |
| 18:08.27 | redbeard2 | er. i mean. that sucks duder. |
| 18:08.30 | goozbach | and on the begninng of a long weekend too |
| 18:08.31 | redbeard2 | i feel for ya. |
| 18:08.48 | redbeard2 | oh man. sick on labor day. that's just not cool |
| 18:09.08 | goozbach | I hope it dissapears by tomorrow |
| 18:09.20 | redbeard2 | i bet |
| 18:09.29 | goozbach | cus there's bunchas of stuff happening tomorrow |
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| 18:10.03 | redbeard2 | like what? |
| 18:10.25 | elg | The Hot Chicks of Florida have a parade, for onw |
| 18:26.09 | ^Migs^ | how does one become a Hot Chick of Florida? |
| 18:26.53 | elg | I don't think you qualify, sorry. |
| 18:28.14 | ^Migs^ | That wasn't the question. |
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| 18:35.44 | goozbach | ^Migs^: live in florida |
| 18:35.48 | goozbach | and be hot |
| 18:47.13 | ^Migs^ | so it's really not a formal thing then? Why'd elg capitalize it as a proper title? |
| 18:48.04 | JoshH | Supaplex: free wheeler? |
| 18:48.17 | Supaplex | where else? |
| 18:48.23 | JoshH | heh, nice |
| 18:48.30 | JoshH | maybe i'll walk up there today |
| 18:48.33 | Supaplex | first time in a few weeks |
| 18:48.57 | JoshH | i went for the first time in about a year a couple weeks ago |
| 18:49.09 | JoshH | they had some new employees but the pizza was as good as ever |
| 18:49.16 | Supaplex | yup |
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| 18:51.43 | rsimpkins | Does everyone have big plans for the weekend? |
| 18:55.19 | Supaplex | fun |
| 19:19.59 | atoponce | what does "Compact this folder" do in Thunderbird? bzip2 the contents? |
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| 19:29.36 | levi | If it stores mail in mbox format, it probably clears all the cruft out of the mbox file. |
| 19:43.30 | emcnabb | rsimpkins: going on a cruise |
| 19:43.44 | rsimpkins | emcnabb: That's pretty sweet. Where to? |
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| 19:49.26 | jsmith | rsimpkins: It's OK, but still pretty buggy |
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| 19:50.32 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Yeah, good point. I love it when it works right. |
| 19:51.04 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Which is about the first four minutes, 'til if falls flat on its face |
| 19:51.21 | rsimpkins | jsmith: I've got an uptime here of three days. |
| 19:51.32 | rsimpkins | But on a heavy traffic site - you are 100% right. |
| 19:52.18 | rsimpkins | I've ran it on hosts recieving about 6/MBs of various traffic for about 24 hours with it still mostly working. |
| 19:52.43 | rsimpkins | When it starts seeing THOUSANDS of hosts, it drags. |
| 19:58.25 | emcnabb | rsimpkins: eastern Caribbean |
| 19:58.26 | tensai | ~prod Jayce^ |
| 19:58.28 | ibot | ACTION zaps Jayce^ with a high voltage cattle prod |
| 19:58.56 | rsimpkins | emcnabb: Can my wife and 5 kids stow away in your luggage? I bet we can squeeze in there. |
| 19:59.03 | tensai | I need some help w/ mysql replication. anybody? |
| 19:59.20 | rsimpkins | tensai: I've done quite a bit with it. |
| 19:59.55 | tensai | rsimpkins: I've got two servers with two-way replication. I sorta hosed one of them so I'm rebuilding it from the master. |
| 20:00.04 | emcnabb | rsimpkins: as long as they'll fetch a good price if I sell 'em to pirates |
| 20:00.28 | rsimpkins | emcnabb: Just loose my 3 year old on 'em - he'll wipe them out. |
| 20:00.47 | rsimpkins | emcnabb: He'll be sinking shipes within five minutes. |
| 20:00.50 | tensai | rsimpkins: it's complaining about the binlog slave settings on server 2 because it copied them from server 1 |
| 20:01.39 | rsimpkins | tensai: What is the exact error? |
| 20:03.05 | tensai | "Failed to open the relay log 'server1-relay-bin.011' (relay_log_pos 3915)" |
| 20:03.10 | rsimpkins | okay, let me look through my notes. |
| 20:03.12 | tensai | "Could not find target log during relay log initialization" |
| 20:03.29 | tensai | (can't copy and paste because I'm jumping through too many rdp sessions) |
| 20:03.32 | rsimpkins | tensai: Okay, I have had this same problem. |
| 20:03.43 | rsimpkins | tensai: Let me read what I wrote down the solution to be. :) |
| 20:03.56 | tensai | I tried stopping the slave on server1 but still the same thing |
| 20:04.05 | rsimpkins | Something like this, right " |
| 20:04.11 | rsimpkins | c |
| 20:04.16 | rsimpkins | blarchg!!! |
| 20:04.23 | rsimpkins | Stupid copy paste in Linux! |
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| 20:06.42 | tensai | -lart elg |
| 20:06.45 | rsimpkins | So stop slave on your slave, read lock your master, reset your binlog on your master, release the lock on the master, load data from master on the slave, wait for it to rebuild indexes, start slave. |
| 20:07.19 | tensai | can you explain the "reset binlog on the master" bit? |
| 20:07.37 | rsimpkins | Let me see where the heck... |
| 20:07.53 | rsimpkins | what version of MySQL? |
| 20:07.58 | tensai | 4.0 |
| 20:08.49 | rsimpkins | tensai: Treat it like an upgrade: |
| 20:09.21 | rsimpkins | Wow, copy/paste very broken on my lappy right now. |
| 20:09.41 | rsimpkins | Go to dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/replication-upgrade-4-0.html |
| 20:11.02 | rsimpkins | Also look in secion 13.6 - check out RESET MASTER |
| 20:11.39 | rsimpkins | FLUSH LOGS is probably actually what you want, not RESET MASTER |
| 20:12.03 | tensai | ok. I'll give those a try. |
| 20:12.12 | tensai | ~rsimpkins++ |
| 20:12.29 | rsimpkins | tensai: I do have VERY detailed error notes on this - litterally 3 pages worth while I battled with a similar issue. |
| 20:14.50 | rsimpkins | Have you done a load data from master before? Don't freak about about the errors in the logs while it rebuilds indexes. |
| 20:16.38 | tensai | no, I've never used load data from master. |
| 20:19.09 | rsimpkins | I'd take this general approch. stop mysql on the slave, clean out EVERYTHING on the slave (esspecially binlogs), start mysql on the slave - but be sure it doesn't start slave (may have to comment out some stuff in my.cnf)... |
| 20:20.06 | rsimpkins | read lock the master; flush logs on the master; you *should* then be able to release read lock, then load data from master on the slave and wait for it to rebuild the indexes. |
| 20:20.52 | rsimpkins | Then you should be able to start slave and replication should pick up from there. |
| 20:22.25 | rsimpkins | Replication is very cool, but you have to be VERY careful with your masters. Uber careful. |
| 20:23.29 | tensai | yes. I have been beyond paranoid. |
| 20:23.45 | harleypig | I can't stop giggling: http://qdb.us/64488 |
| 20:23.46 | brac | [QDB: Quote #64488] |
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| 20:24.25 | rsimpkins | The real trick is realizing its limitations. I highly recommend scripting everything you can when dealing with your masters on replication. Slaves you can manhandle a bit more, but you aren't dealing with a cluster. It's more like a tightrope walk. |
| 20:24.37 | tensai | I got it to work. took a 'reset slave' on server2. |
| 20:25.07 | tensai | I think the hard part in this equation was the two way replication. so both servers are master and slave. |
| 20:26.06 | rsimpkins | tensai: Yeah, yahoo has it set up so they have only one master at any one time. |
| 20:26.16 | rsimpkins | Then they promote basically a slave to master in failover. |
| 20:26.34 | rsimpkins | But it is a dedicated standby slave. |
| 20:27.12 | tensai | we only write to one at a time, but both are syncronized at all times. seems to work pretty well until admins get in and start monkeying around. |
| 20:27.26 | rsimpkins | tensai: Funny how that works. :) |
| 20:28.36 | bonez39 | I just ran apt-get upgrade and it updated my time...though it says Mountain/US for the zone and 1:14....yet it's 2:14 right now, isn't it? |
| 20:29.01 | rsimpkins | 14:29 by my clock. |
| 20:29.24 | bonez39 | ok.....I know something queries the atomic clock and sets the time on my system at boot up... |
| 20:29.32 | bonez39 | but I can't remember now what it is |
| 20:29.38 | rsimpkins | bonez39: ntp or rdate probably. |
| 20:32.35 | bonez39 | weird...I have neither on my system |
| 20:32.39 | tensai | or ntpdate |
| 20:33.07 | tensai | date --utc |
| 20:33.16 | tensai | should be 20:33 |
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| 20:35.17 | findlay | jsmith: do you know of any cheap voip providers? |
| 20:35.45 | jsmith | findlay: Depends on your definition of cheap. |
| 20:36.00 | jsmith | findlay: Are you looking for a cheap per-month plan, or a cheap per-minute plan. |
| 20:36.09 | jsmith | findlay: Do you want a local number? |
| 20:37.12 | tensai | ~lart entrado |
| 20:37.23 | harleypig | findlay: Her's a local number -- 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:37.24 | Tene | ~tensai entrado |
| 20:37.28 | ibot | ACTION chrome-plates entrado. |
| 20:38.14 | findlay | jsmith: I don't care about unlimited time or fancy extra options, just that asterisk will work with the service and I'm paying less than $15 per month or less than $10 would be ideal |
| 20:38.35 | jsmith | findlay: Did you see my private message? |
| 20:38.37 | findlay | in fact a per minute service would probably be even better for unlimited time |
| 20:38.39 | findlay | jsmith: yes |
| 20:38.47 | Tene | arrivaltel comes to ming |
| 20:38.50 | Tene | mind |
| 20:38.52 | jsmith | That's my best suggestion... |
| 20:38.52 | findlay | s/unlimited/limited |
| 20:38.56 | findlay | OK |
| 20:38.59 | findlay | thanks |
| 20:41.50 | rsimpkins | I love drupal templates: http://www.arrivaltel.com/ http://ryansimpkins.com/ |
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| 20:44.52 | findlay | Tene: do you like them? |
| 20:45.24 | Tene | findlay: I think i remember hearing someone say good things about them, and what I can see on their website looks good. |
| 20:45.32 | findlay | yeah |
| 20:46.08 | Tene | Haen't used them yet, but I think they're high on the list of possibilities for the "play with voip" project we have coming up. |
| 20:47.50 | jsmith | Of course, I'm biased, as those are the guys who helped me start UTAUG |
| 20:48.28 | herlo | rsimpkins: I think that drupal rules too.. |
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| 20:49.42 | jsmith | What, have you guys been reading that stupid press release too? |
| 20:50.06 | Tene | ?? |
| 20:50.14 | findlay | don't know of any |
| 20:50.37 | jsmith | Whew... it's still secret here then... |
| 20:51.02 | rsimpkins | secret? |
| 20:51.08 | jsmith | Some outfit that I have a business arrangement with went out yesterday and put out a press release making it sound like I'm the greatest thing since packets... |
| 20:51.15 | rsimpkins | sweet. |
| 20:51.37 | findlay | wow |
| 20:51.40 | jsmith | No, it's not sweet -- it makes me sound like a rock star -- and I'm no rock star. |
| 20:51.45 | findlay | can you talk to the packets? |
| 20:52.08 | jsmith | findlay: No only can you talk *to* them, you can talk *through* them... |
| 20:52.50 | findlay | wow. Straight from the rock star's mouth |
| 20:54.04 | scott | anyone used sunbird calendars over webdav? |
| 20:54.47 | jsmith | findlay: If you'd read the press release, you'd understand. |
| 20:55.02 | jsmith | findlay: It was so far over the top, I don't know whether to scream or cry |
| 20:55.16 | rsimpkins | Speaking of calendars, does everyone have Septembers PLUG meeting in theirs? |
| 20:55.39 | rsimpkins | If not be sure to add it so you can come see all the amazing things that will be going on. |
| 20:56.06 | findlay | jsmith: sorry |
| 20:56.20 | rsimpkins | jsmith: You have to post the link now so we can make an informed decision. |
| 20:56.41 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Here, I'll make it easy -- go to news.google.com, and search for "big nerd jared smith" |
| 20:56.49 | rsimpkins | hehe |
| 20:56.56 | jsmith | That's not funny! |
| 20:57.10 | rsimpkins | hehe |
| 20:57.19 | jsmith | ~silence rsimpkins |
| 20:57.22 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in rsimpkins's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 20:58.00 | rsimpkins | I don't even need to say anything, really, I don't. |
| 20:58.19 | jsmith | Just remember -- I know where you work |
| 20:59.20 | findlay | anyone willing to plumb the nebulous and turbid depths of brand new software especially in a brand new field in order to make lucid presentation certainly deserves great respect |
| 21:00.01 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Oops, an e-mail accidently just left my outbox. |
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| 21:00.50 | jsmith | rsimpkins: That's okay... with the track record of your corporate email server, I'd give it a 1 in 3 chance of making it out anyway... |
| 21:05.06 | rsimpkins | I think everyone filters e-mail from 'rsimpkins' to go to 'Deleted Items' |
| 21:05.14 | rsimpkins | So you should be safe regardless. |
| 21:09.05 | jsmith | If not, they will now. |
| 21:09.26 | jsmith | Maybe some good can come from this <evil grin> |
| 21:11.36 | findlay | a voip provider should be able to handle the '1' country code at the beginning of the number, right? |
| 21:12.05 | findlay | because kphone won't dial without it |
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| 21:12.25 | elg | findlay: I'll provide some voip for $20/day |
| 21:12.31 | tensai | jsmith: so what speed is it? |
| 21:12.58 | jsmith | tensai: What speed is what? |
| 21:13.13 | tensai | jsmith: the pulse man! the pulse of Asterisk. it's right there under your finger! |
| 21:13.58 | jsmith | tensai: About 30 beats per minute too slow, if you ask me. |
| 21:14.08 | jsmith | tensai: We need less users and more developers |
| 21:14.49 | tensai | does Mark Spencer write code any more? |
| 21:15.49 | jsmith | tensai: Of course... just not as much as he used to -- he's busy designing hardware and speaking at trade shows too |
| 21:22.30 | rsimpkins | I updated plug.org today with info on the 10th anniv. party. |
| 21:27.23 | findlay | what happened to the glossy homepage? |
| 21:27.38 | findlay | ): |
| 21:30.27 | rsimpkins | findlay: Huh? |
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| 21:41.19 | bonez39 | greetngs, Mac |
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| 22:01.14 | goozbach | GAAA!!! |
| 22:01.18 | goozbach | being sick sucks |
| 22:21.12 | tensai | you think that's bad, try being findlay |
| 22:35.18 | Tene | how to set perl to not buffer output? |
| 22:35.36 | Tene | alternately, how to flush all output? |
| 22:40.53 | synic | $|++; |
| 22:41.07 | synic | (and I'm serious). |
| 22:41.44 | elg | good ol' perl |
| 22:41.46 | elg | that's obvious |
| 22:42.21 | Tene | actually, looks like it's input that's being buffered, not output. |
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| 22:49.43 | \me | goozbach: I think my presence in irc has gotten you sick |
| 22:55.38 | elg | Tene: in that case you probably need $yomama++ |
| 23:14.18 | tensai | wow. utah peaches for $.30/lb in Brigham City. |
| 23:14.40 | tensai | that's 1/3 what they charge for them here, and even that's competitive w/ the supermarket peaches |
| 23:14.47 | levi | What's worse than spam hitting my inbox is spam hitting my inbox with a date sometime in the past. |
| 23:14.51 | tensai | although the taste is not. utah peachs are 1000x more yummy. |
| 23:15.55 | tensai | if every one of you utah dwellers don't eat yourselves sick on peaches, you're really missing out. |
| 23:16.10 | tensai | did I mention I like them? |
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| 23:22.16 | jsmith | tensai: Were the elberta peaches? |
| 23:22.21 | jsmith | s/the/they/ |
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| 23:56.31 | Sargun | what does ATE mean in the context: data conversion analysis for ATE data. |