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| 03:03.01 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, blog syndication rocks |
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| 03:15.29 | Sargun | working on a tracking system |
| 03:15.47 | tensai | -larg elt |
| 03:16.07 | tensai | -earg llg |
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| 03:23.57 | tensai | elg: I think you excluding me from greylisting made a big difference at least on my mail server |
| 03:28.23 | tensai | I've got fewer queued messages and fewer deliveries. since generally I only see spam for you, that's the way we like it. |
| 03:30.13 | tensai | who's the boss of Orodruin? |
| 03:30.16 | tensai | Jayce^? |
| 03:30.33 | tensai | 2006-08-27 12:57:31 H=plug.org (orodruin.plug.org) [63.108.71.211] sender verify fail for <bdivqjvm@net.br>: Unrouteable address |
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| 05:36.07 | linuxalien | I'm hungry |
| 05:45.30 | findlay | ~eat linuxalien |
| 05:45.31 | ibot | ACTION eats linuxalien and falls over dead |
| 05:46.12 | linuxalien | Must be my poo |
| 05:48.31 | linuxalien | Anyone here listen to podcasts? |
| 05:56.29 | linuxalien | goodnight. I sleep now |
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| 06:01.56 | findlay | ~sleep linuxalien |
| 06:01.57 | ibot | ACTION sends linuxalien to bed without supper |
| 06:02.01 | findlay | ~delete spam |
| 06:02.02 | ibot | Segmentation fault. |
| 06:02.19 | findlay | ibot: I can always count on you |
| 06:02.21 | ibot | You can always count on you? |
| 06:05.39 | findlay | yeah, to be supercilious |
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| 07:18.21 | rsimpkins | Anyone around? |
| 07:20.21 | sontek | yeah |
| 07:20.23 | sontek | what you up to |
| 07:20.41 | rsimpkins | I'm trying to find the name of this network analyzer I used one time - it had a web interface - etc. |
| 07:20.54 | rsimpkins | Ran as a daemon and showed real-time stats as it collected them. |
| 07:21.27 | rsimpkins | I used to use it quite a bit - I thought it was called netmon, but I can't seem to find that anyplace it makes sense. |
| 07:23.43 | rsimpkins | ahh, here it is. ntop |
| 07:53.59 | Sargun | ntop |
| 08:36.03 | elg | tensai: cool |
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| 12:56.41 | goozbach | ~rlart |
| 12:56.51 | goozbach | ohh it's good to be back!!! |
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| 13:24.42 | levi | Good morning. |
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| 13:31.20 | redbeard1 | morning duder |
| 13:32.46 | levi | Wassup? |
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| 13:33.01 | redbeard1 | dude, you've heard of make magazine? |
| 13:33.06 | redbeard1 | hey elg |
| 13:33.09 | elg | yup |
| 13:33.30 | redbeard1 | so, make has a sister magazine now called "craft" |
| 13:35.04 | redbeard1 | imagine my surprise yesterday when i noticed that a particular tutorial on phyllo cups started making its way towards the top of my most viewed pages list in my stats, and makezine.com started making its way towards the top of my referrers list |
| 13:36.00 | redbeard1 | s/makezine/craftzine/ |
| 13:37.39 | elg | so make is telling people you've got the goods on making phyllo cups? why does make care? |
| 13:38.02 | redbeard1 | no, craft is telling people that |
| 13:38.05 | redbeard1 | on their blog |
| 13:38.31 | redbeard1 | http://www.craftzine.com/blog/archive/2006/08/phyllo_cups.html |
| 13:38.32 | brac | [Craftzine.com blog: Phyllo Cups] |
| 13:41.32 | levi | Sweet. |
| 13:41.58 | redbeard1 | just wait'll they get a look at the upcoming tux cake |
| 13:44.15 | tensai | redbeard1: speaking of that, I won't be able to make it for the party. I discovered I'm on call that week. |
| 13:45.44 | tensai | redbeard1: a friend of ours juices crab apples every year and makes jelly. it's pretty good stuff. |
| 13:46.00 | redbeard1 | tensai: dude, sorry to hear that you won't be down |
| 13:46.13 | redbeard1 | mmm, crab apple jelly |
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| 14:14.15 | elg | hmm. my computer systems simulation and modeling class is probably going to cancel |
| 14:14.59 | elg | now do I take a computer graphics course for extra dsp practice (even though graphics doesn't really interest me) or "componet-based software engineering" |
| 14:16.04 | jsmith | Get the extra DSP practice. |
| 14:18.48 | levi | Does graphics interest you less than component-based software engineering? ;) |
| 14:20.40 | levi | Wow, the Self group at Sun is still active. They released a new version at the end of June. |
| 14:23.12 | goozbach | soo tired |
| 14:23.38 | elg | levi: well, my first reaction is that cbse is less interesting |
| 14:24.05 | elg | here's an old syllabus for the graphics class |
| 14:24.05 | elg | http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~hue/cs476/syl-2006.html |
| 14:24.07 | brac | [Syllabus CS476 COMPUTER GRAPHICS Spring 2006] |
| 14:24.44 | elg | actually looks like not a lot of dsp |
| 14:24.59 | elg | but then it's just as interesting as anything else being offered (that I'm not already signed up for) |
| 14:25.38 | levi | Looks pretty interesting. |
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| 14:32.09 | levi | Heh, http://www.butunclebob.com/ArticleS.UncleBob.PerformanceTuning |
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| 14:52.44 | elg | levi: interesting. although he's not technically right about the sieve. it's O(n ln ln n) |
| 14:53.06 | tensai | elg: I took graphics (455) at byu. it was one of the more interesting classes. |
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| 14:54.54 | levi | elg, yeah, he didn't appear being very technically accurate. |
| 14:55.04 | goozbach | well this sucks |
| 14:55.14 | goozbach | yum just broke itself |
| 14:55.25 | levi | Er, that sentence is malformed, but I think you can guess what I meant. |
| 14:55.35 | elg | yeah |
| 14:55.45 | goozbach | yum update installed an incompatable pyton module |
| 14:55.48 | goozbach | so it's broken |
| 14:55.53 | goozbach | can't run now |
| 14:55.56 | jsmith | goozbach: Ouch... |
| 14:55.56 | goozbach | how funny! |
| 14:55.59 | elg | although I'm graphing x*log(log(x)) in gnuplot and it sure looks a lot like linear |
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| 15:37.35 | sontek_ | Good Morning |
| 15:39.10 | graphyx | hi |
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| 15:45.40 | levi | elg, plotting x, log(x), log(log(x)), and x*log(log(x)) makes it pretty clear why the last looks like the first. |
| 15:50.31 | Tene | It took me a little while to figure out why graphics had a mode of "455" |
| 15:50.33 | Tene | >< |
| 16:00.26 | elg | yup |
| 16:03.44 | levi | plotting log(x), x, x*x, and exp(2, x) also makes it clear why exponential problems are considered intractable. :) |
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| 16:32.10 | elg | this is pretty slick. http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2006/08/these-loudspeakers-can-defy-gravity.html |
| 16:32.11 | brac | [Music thing: These loudspeakers can defy gravity] |
| 16:32.46 | bonez39 | elg, if I want to archive my current email box....and open a new empty box.....(current one has 3000 messages) how would I do that? |
| 16:33.03 | elg | in mutt? |
| 16:33.17 | elg | do you want to archive the messages, or what? |
| 16:36.27 | bonez39 | yeah, in mutt..wanting to archive the current messages... |
| 16:36.33 | bonez39 | I'd like to be able to access them...is this done by renaming the current box...to something else.and opening mutt to point to the new name if i want to look there? |
| 16:37.30 | elg | the easiest way is to tag them and use 's' to save them somewhere else |
| 16:37.47 | elg | see also the spool related stuff in the mutt documentation |
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| 18:16.02 | elg | so when does byu start classes? |
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| 18:48.37 | Tene | ~lart IE |
| 18:48.41 | Tene | ~destroy IE |
| 18:48.43 | ibot | no |
| 18:48.46 | Tene | ~zap IE |
| 18:48.48 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives IE a good jolt. |
| 18:48.52 | Tene | ~kill IE |
| 18:48.53 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized tachyon gun at IE |
| 18:48.55 | Tene | ~cook IE |
| 18:48.57 | ibot | ACTION throws IE in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks IE on 350 for an hour |
| 18:48.57 | Tene | ~lart IE |
| 18:49.02 | Tene | ~sjansen IE |
| 18:49.03 | ibot | ACTION tells IE good things about sjansen |
| 18:53.43 | herlo | ~herlo sjansen |
| 18:53.50 | ibot | ACTION pokes sjansen with a sharp needle. |
| 18:57.15 | goozbach | ohh a herlo verb! |
| 18:57.25 | goozbach | ~verb herlo |
| 18:57.45 | Tene | ~goozbach herlo |
| 18:58.25 | goozbach | hey! what happened to my verb? |
| 18:58.29 | goozbach | ~goozbach |
| 18:58.53 | ibot | well, goozbach is a future que-ball. easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch |
| 19:03.26 | Tene | ibot: literal goozbach $target |
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| 19:21.07 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 19:22.47 | redbeard1 | ~lart emcnabb |
| 19:24.01 | redbeard1 | i feel bad everytime ibot does that one. is there any way to remove it? |
| 19:25.58 | Tene | ibot: literal lart $target |
| 19:26.12 | ibot | shut up $target |
| 19:29.07 | goozbach | you want rmlart |
| 19:29.24 | goozbach | at least I think |
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| 19:32.44 | mrpull | remember Jesux? http://www.ichthux.com/?q=node/1 |
| 19:32.52 | mrpull | life imitating "art"? |
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| 20:16.13 | Tene | Okay, this just isn't funny. |
| 20:16.20 | Tene | I got this weird table-based layout from a client. |
| 20:16.27 | Tene | And it used to work fine in IE. |
| 20:16.48 | Tene | So i made a bunch of changes, and now it inserts big spaces in some cells for no apparent reason. |
| 20:17.01 | Tene | Upsetting. |
| 20:22.36 | [phoenyx] | check whitespace between tags |
| 20:22.59 | Tene | None. |
| 20:23.07 | Tene | And the gap gets larger when I do put things there. |
| 20:25.07 | [phoenyx] | sometimes newline chars get turned into gaps |
| 20:25.28 | Tene | no newlines. |
| 20:26.03 | Tene | the gap in one of them went away when I deleted the spacer td before it, added a padding-left of the width of the spacer, and setting the td to colspan="2" |
| 20:27.08 | [phoenyx] | can you link to an example? |
| 20:27.57 | Tene | sent a /notice |
| 20:28.22 | Tene | setting borders shows me that they're inside the td and after the a |
| 20:28.30 | Tene | but... there's nothing there. |
| 20:43.12 | [phoenyx] | so you're trying to get the red titles flush with the top of the table cells? |
| 20:44.09 | Tene | they're already like that. they need to be flush with each other. |
| 20:44.12 | Tene | look at it in FF. |
| 20:55.27 | Tene | yay, fixed |
| 20:55.33 | Tene | weird rowspan and colspan issues |
| 20:55.34 | Tene | >< |
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| 22:00.44 | tensai | -lart ibot |
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| 22:52.23 | rsimpkins | harleypig, neybar: Either of you two about? |
| 22:52.30 | rsimpkins | ~seen harleypig |
| 22:52.54 | ibot | harleypig is currently on #utah, last said: 'heh ... harleypigprogramming.com is worth $21'. |
| 22:52.55 | rsimpkins | ~seen neybar |
| 22:52.57 | ibot | neybar is currently on #utah, last said: 'lol'. |
| 23:08.47 | vontrapp | tensai: actually, i've had that jelly once |
| 23:09.08 | tensai | vontrapp: how was it? |
| 23:10.13 | vontrapp | ok |
| 23:10.18 | vontrapp | wasn't spectacular |
| 23:10.21 | vontrapp | it was spicy |
| 23:11.21 | vontrapp | comparable in quality to the jelly belly version |
| 23:11.54 | vontrapp | actually, that's a recipe, eh? the kind i had was bought from a supermarket |
| 23:12.35 | vontrapp | grr, my myth server is having issues |
| 23:12.51 | sontek | You guys see all that stuff with jon benet and that guy "Karr"? |
| 23:12.58 | Tene | nope! |
| 23:13.01 | sontek | I recognized him so I decided to photoshop 2 photos together: http://www.sontek.net/karrvsgman.gif same guy? |
| 23:13.03 | Tene | Well, i heard about it. |
| 23:13.16 | vontrapp | seems to have dissappeared from the network |
| 23:13.28 | vontrapp | the frontend can't connect to the backend |
| 23:13.43 | vontrapp | but the computer is still running (as that's what the frontend is on) |
| 23:14.12 | vontrapp | and my tv is developing a nice yellow spot :-/ |
| 23:14.47 | amcnabb | sounds like fun |
| 23:15.27 | Tene | http://xkcd.com/c146.html |
| 23:18.44 | vontrapp | "sudo make me a sandwich" |
| 23:18.46 | vontrapp | hehe |
| 23:21.07 | vontrapp | no! it was in the middle of recording good eats! |
| 23:21.17 | vontrapp | i've ruined everything |
| 23:21.29 | vontrapp | good eats about flan no less... |
| 23:27.23 | [phoenyx] | ah, the carebear stare |
| 23:29.01 | [phoenyx] | as power as Cyclops' eye beam, but the version that's infused with love |
| 23:29.55 | harleypig | rsimpkins: I'm here now, for a few minutes |
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| 23:31.37 | harleypig | rsimpkins: try again tomorrow :> |
| 23:32.13 | rsimpkins | K |
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