| 00:01.49 | jsmith | tensai: You're a sick sick man |
| 00:04.03 | Kuyaedz | jsmith: it doesn't seem to make sense to me that I can access Exchange via Evolution from any outside connection (home, etc) but once I get inside the LAN at the office actually housing the Exchange server its VERY unreliable |
| 00:05.21 | jsmith | Are you connecting to the URL that's on the outside of your firewall? |
| 00:06.35 | Kuyaedz | I'm connecting to http://webmail.domain.com/exchange/ in both cases.. |
| 00:08.54 | Sargun | they have quake on their servers :-D |
| 00:09.08 | Kuyaedz | what doesn't make sense to me is that it works 100% from outside the office and maybe 25% from inside the office. It does work *sometimes*.. |
| 00:09.29 | Kuyaedz | only thing I can think of is some proxy issue, or filtering on my office port or.. |
| 00:12.21 | Sargun | maybe they have seperate exchange servers? |
| 00:12.27 | Sargun | one internal, and one external |
| 00:12.37 | Sargun | and the internal has anti-evolution settings? |
| 00:12.45 | Sargun | thats my guess |
| 00:13.56 | Sargun | I don't know much about evolution/exchange though.. |
| 00:14.20 | jsmith | Kuyaedz: What I'm asking is does the traffic from inside the lan going to http://webmail.domain.com/ go out through a firewall and back in? |
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| 00:15.11 | jsmith | Kuyaedz: Or does DNS inside the office resolve to an inside (non-public) IP for the server? |
| 00:16.04 | Sargun | Kuyaedz, are you in the office right now? |
| 00:16.19 | Kuyaedz | not that I can tell.. I can manually access the webmail URL in my browser & it doesn't resolve to something else |
| 00:16.22 | Kuyaedz | Sargun: I am |
| 00:16.47 | Sargun | hmm... |
| 00:17.11 | Sargun | both same IP, whether you query internal or external? |
| 00:17.16 | Sargun | (dns server) |
| 00:17.19 | Sargun | what about traceroute |
| 00:17.22 | Kuyaedz | the odd thing is that it worked yesterday, and works fine anytime I'm outside the LAN, but today it wont work.. |
| 00:18.06 | Kuyaedz | doing traceroute now |
| 00:18.09 | Sargun | cool |
| 00:18.15 | Sargun | Kuyaedz, who is your outside host? |
| 00:18.27 | Sargun | does webmail.domain.com resolve multiple IPs? |
| 00:19.29 | Kuyaedz | Sargun: from home I'm on xmission utopia.. |
| 00:19.46 | Sargun | utopia -- fiber? |
| 00:19.53 | Kuyaedz | yeah |
| 00:20.01 | Sargun | ah. |
| 00:20.49 | Sargun | hmm. |
| 00:20.52 | Sargun | same thing? |
| 00:21.43 | Kuyaedz | traceroute gives me four jumps on LAN IPs.. |
| 00:22.02 | Sargun | hm |
| 00:22.26 | Kuyaedz | I used 'webmail.domain.com' as the address for traceroute |
| 00:23.48 | Kuyaedz | pinging it resolves a different IP.. i wonder... |
| 00:31.25 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. I changed the Evolution setting to https and it works.. although it doesn't use that on the regular web interface via the browser.. |
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| 02:10.50 | elg | ~lart Jayce^ |
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| 02:12.47 | elg | -lart brac |
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| 02:51.32 | levi_home | elg: Your classes start yet? |
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| 03:07.16 | elg | levi_home: yeah, yesterday and today |
| 03:07.35 | elg | my simulation and modeling class doesn't look like it'll make though. only 3 of us so far |
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| 03:40.18 | Sargun | does anyone know how much does a 2 mile cross-connect through SBC cost? |
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| 04:32.50 | levi_home | Too bad that class isn't likely to work out. |
| 04:37.18 | Sargun | has anyone noticed google's downtime today? |
| 04:37.20 | Sargun | or is it just me? |
| 04:37.40 | Sargun | for 5-10 minutes alotta their routes seem to be bad |
| 04:37.41 | atoponce | working fine for me most the day... |
| 04:37.45 | levi_home | Woo! I have access to the entire ACM Digital Library! |
| 04:37.51 | levi_home | I wish I'd found this out earlier. :/ |
| 04:38.22 | atoponce | it's all over for me |
| 04:38.27 | Sargun | uhh.. |
| 04:38.34 | Sargun | levi_home, why? |
| 04:38.39 | atoponce | that's #4 tonight for pasting in the wrong channel |
| 04:38.46 | Sargun | lol |
| 04:38.50 | atoponce | s/pasting/typing/ |
| 04:38.59 | elg | he loves to read the type of stuff that's in the ACM digital library |
| 04:38.59 | atoponce | shoot me now |
| 04:40.22 | levi_home | Sargun: The ACM Digital Library is full of research articles on interesting topics in computing. |
| 04:41.03 | levi_home | See, right here, we have: A new top-down parsing algorithm to accommodate ambiguity and left recursion in polynomial time |
| 04:41.37 | atoponce | hey! now that's good reading! |
| 04:42.43 | elg | i thought it was an "enterprise" club |
| 04:42.48 | elg | that's the impression I get from the Queue |
| 04:43.04 | levi_home | ... |
| 04:43.08 | atoponce | that's what they want you to think.... |
| 04:43.18 | elg | well, probably not what they want _me_ to think |
| 04:43.23 | elg | but what they want people to think perhaps |
| 04:43.24 | levi_home | ACM is hardcore CS stuff. |
| 04:43.42 | levi_home | The Queue is just their fluff magazine. |
| 04:43.57 | atoponce | honestly, i had a very rough membership the 3 years i was a memeber at my local chapter |
| 04:44.17 | atoponce | i can't believed i stayed as long as i did |
| 04:44.26 | levi_home | What was rough about being a member? |
| 04:44.47 | levi_home | I'm not concerned with any aspect of it other than having access to the digital library. |
| 04:44.48 | elg | Most of the time I really hated BYU's ACM chapter. always doing stupid promo things, an annoying gunner president |
| 04:45.19 | elg | but the first year I was there it was cool. I respect the core organization |
| 04:45.21 | atoponce | levi_home: it was the members and the chapter advisor that made it very unpleasant |
| 04:45.27 | elg | local chapters are always a gamble, no matter what it is |
| 04:45.43 | atoponce | including the CS faculty |
| 04:45.59 | levi_home | The digital library has in-depth information about pretty much any CS subject you can imagine, including the latest research. |
| 04:46.59 | atoponce | i do miss the digital library though |
| 04:47.09 | atoponce | there were some cool articles in there |
| 04:48.25 | levi_home | Often, I'll do a search for something and find nothing but links to ACM papers. :/ |
| 04:50.56 | levi_home | Now, if only I could remember all the articles I wanted to download before. :/ |
| 04:53.18 | atoponce | did they open up the digital library? iirc, you had to be a member to even view it. now i am downloading articles, and i am not signed in... |
| 04:54.33 | levi_home | atoponce: AFAIK, it's not open. I'm downloading articles through the UVSC proxy, but a few minutes ago I couldn't do it directly. |
| 04:54.43 | levi_home | What articles are you downloading? |
| 04:55.54 | atoponce | nevermind. none, actually. i was shocked to be browsing, and links to the files, so i assumed |
| 04:55.54 | levi_home | This is kind of interesting. It's a way to 'slice' programs, so you only see parts of it that are relevant for cases with certain input values. |
| 04:56.22 | levi_home | Yeah, that's the evil thing. They let you search and read all the abstracts, so you know what you're missing. |
| 04:56.47 | levi_home | Are you still in school? |
| 04:56.53 | atoponce | yeah. |
| 04:57.08 | levi_home | Try your library's web site to see if they have a proxy. |
| 04:58.15 | atoponce | i'm what you would call "non-tradtional" |
| 04:58.47 | levi_home | Heh. Me too. |
| 04:59.35 | levi_home | Interesting stuff in the latest SIGARCH journal. |
| 05:00.55 | levi_home | Hmm, it's the proceedings from a recent conference on the future of microprocessors. |
| 05:01.43 | atoponce | and...? |
| 05:01.51 | levi_home | "Architectural Semantics for Practical Transactional Memory" looks sweet. |
| 05:02.48 | levi_home | Transactional memory is going to be one of the key technologies as processors move towards parallelism. |
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| 05:05.14 | levi_home | Increased hardware support for it will make writing fast, correct multithreaded code much easier than with current popular software techniques. |
| 05:06.04 | levi_home | They're an alternative to lock-based multithreading. |
| 05:06.33 | levi_home | Which is full of limitations from a software architecture standpoint. |
| 05:07.29 | levi_home | It's difficult to get right, it's not composable, and can cause performance problems. |
| 05:11.41 | levi_home | Locking overhead scales as threads increase, while transactional memory cost is fixed. |
| 05:12.07 | levi_home | Really cool stuff. |
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| 05:15.48 | levi_home | Cool, an architecture for hardware-accalerated regular expression matching via FPGAs or ASICs. |
| 05:17.07 | atoponce | now honestly. what possible reason would you want to read that for? |
| 05:17.43 | levi_home | Accelerating specific tasks via dynamic FPGA coprocessors is a big thing right now. |
| 05:18.10 | levi_home | And regular expressions are THE tool for pattern matching. |
| 05:18.16 | atoponce | oh yeah. i forgot. |
| 05:18.18 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 05:18.32 | atoponce | regex, sure, but FPGAs and ASICs? |
| 05:19.48 | levi_home | Imagine a piece of network hardware that needs to work at an internet hub, matching patterns on data. |
| 05:20.22 | levi_home | For email filtering, packet munging, or whatever. |
| 05:21.25 | levi_home | You can do your matching via a bunch of high-powered CPUs that cost big bucks.... or you can do it faster with $20 FPGAs. |
| 05:22.17 | atoponce | hehe. well then, there you go! |
| 05:22.32 | levi_home | Indeed. |
| 05:24.35 | levi_home | They got 4Gbps on a 133Mhz FPGA part, and estimate they could get in excess of 16 Gbps from an ASIC. |
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| 05:25.30 | atoponce | bleh. the 4Mhz in my HP48 could outclock those with no effort... |
| 05:27.06 | levi_home | Wow. 16Gbps with a density of about 1,000 regular expression engines on a die. |
| 05:27.33 | levi_home | That's gold for all sorts of network analysis tools. |
| 05:28.16 | levi_home | Here's something interesting: A TRAP-Array, a disk array architecture providing timely recovery to any point in time. |
| 05:29.12 | atoponce | now *that* i think would be a bit more applicable |
| 05:29.21 | levi_home | Applicable to what? |
| 05:29.46 | Tene_ | while(true){echo 1>/tmp/foo ; echo 0>/tmp/foo;} |
| 05:29.49 | atoponce | something that *I* could actually work with/us |
| 05:30.08 | atoponce | s/us/use/ |
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| 05:31.37 | atoponce | i can't imagine me ever working with FPGAs and ASICs |
| 05:33.48 | levi_home | You could work with hardware that used them, though. |
| 05:34.09 | levi_home | I worked with some extensively, though I didn't program the FPGA myself. |
| 05:34.37 | levi_home | They are extremely cool. |
| 05:35.02 | levi_home | Imagine programming hardware with a programming language. |
| 05:36.39 | Tene_ | linux kernel in hardware! |
| 05:37.38 | levi_home | Not that kind of programming. |
| 05:38.02 | levi_home | You create things like CPUs, UARTs, or DSPs. |
| 05:38.12 | Tene | Yeah, I know. |
| 05:38.42 | levi_home | Oooh, a Doug Engelbart talk. |
| 05:39.42 | levi_home | Only the abstract, but it's good to see he's still doing his thing. |
| 05:40.13 | levi_home | He wants to add features of his Augment system to Wikis. |
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| 05:42.50 | Sargun | whats a good electronics sketching program for noobs |
| 05:44.53 | Sargun | and simulation of the circuit? |
| 05:49.47 | levi_home | How complex do you want? |
| 05:52.09 | levi_home | Something like this: http://www.tkgate.org/preview.html might work for you. |
| 05:52.10 | brac | [TkGate 2.0 Preview] |
| 06:02.12 | Sargun | like the easiest? |
| 06:03.34 | levi_home | You apparently have no idea what you want. |
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| 06:03.49 | levi_home | Just download it and see if it works for you. |
| 06:04.37 | Sargun | levi_home, I basically am designing a really simple home automation system |
| 06:04.46 | Sargun | where the modules will be literally free |
| 06:05.48 | Sargun | that looks nice, thanks |
| 06:06.01 | levi_home | Do you have any idea how to design that kind of thing? |
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| 06:30.23 | rsimpkins | Anyone awake tonight? |
| 06:30.33 | Tene | Yes. |
| 06:30.41 | rsimpkins | Doing anything interesting? |
| 06:30.48 | Tene | IRC |
| 06:31.00 | Tene | just compiled e on my desktop that I finally resurrected. |
| 06:31.09 | rsimpkins | 'e' ? |
| 06:31.18 | Tene | enlightenment |
| 06:31.19 | nick125_lappy | I think he means e17 |
| 06:31.21 | nick125_lappy | or e16 |
| 06:31.22 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 06:32.33 | rsimpkins | That's a window manager right? |
| 06:32.39 | Tene | yeah |
| 06:32.40 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 06:32.42 | nick125_lappy | WM/DE |
| 06:32.43 | Tene | desktop environment thinger |
| 06:34.47 | rsimpkins | Do you have a nice desktop then? |
| 06:34.55 | Tene | no |
| 06:35.07 | Tene | well, yeah. nice enough for me. |
| 06:35.14 | Tene | you don't need much at all for e, though |
| 06:35.25 | Tene | runs great on really old hardware, even |
| 06:38.46 | levi_home | Hmm, Olin Shivers has a new paper regarding a method for optimizing coroutines via CPS transformation and standard compiler analysis methods. |
| 06:40.15 | rsimpkins | Sounds like just the sleep aid I was looking for. Pass it over. ;) |
| 06:42.09 | levi_home | CPS transformation is cool, because it turns EVERY control flow operation into a procedure call, which renders the whole program available for analysis by the same tools. |
| 06:43.18 | Tene | That's really cool. |
| 06:43.26 | Tene | What does CPS stand for? |
| 06:55.48 | Sargun | how long can traces be in a digital circuit? |
| 07:01.08 | levi_home | continuation passing style |
| 07:01.30 | levi_home | Sargun: That depends |
| 07:01.50 | rsimpkins | ~seen elg |
| 07:02.07 | ibot | elg <n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2h 16m 40s ago, saying: 'local chapters are always a gamble, no matter what it is'. |
| 07:02.07 | rsimpkins | I need an elg on a leash. |
| 07:02.07 | Sargun | levi_home, on what exactly |
| 07:02.16 | Sargun | just the resistance of the jumper. |
| 07:03.09 | levi_home | Timing constraints, mainly. |
| 07:03.11 | rsimpkins | I imagine there are certain high speed applications where long traces can not work. |
| 07:03.41 | Tene | in some situations, long traces do weird stuff with RF, I've heard. |
| 07:03.43 | rsimpkins | What comes to mind is old SCSI systems where the cables had to be less than a certain length - like 12 inches or something. |
| 07:04.02 | rsimpkins | I think you end up turning your trace into an antenna. ? |
| 07:04.16 | levi_home | Yes, that too. |
| 07:04.34 | levi_home | I think there are ways to avoid that, though. |
| 07:04.34 | rsimpkins | In digital circuts it is a real issue. |
| 07:06.03 | levi_home | I'm no EE, I just worked with a few of them for a long time. |
| 07:06.51 | Tene | any thoughts on how to make NFS lag? |
| 07:08.12 | levi_home | Pull your network cable for a moment in the middle of an operation? ;) |
| 07:08.30 | Tene | Heh. |
| 07:08.30 | rsimpkins | Shut down the server? |
| 07:08.55 | rsimpkins | /etc/init.d/nfs_server stop |
| 07:09.19 | Tene | I guess I could try just sending a lot of data over it. |
| 07:09.36 | rsimpkins | Or - you can open up 500 threads that all try to write TONS of data over NFS. |
| 07:09.41 | rsimpkins | ;) |
| 07:14.33 | Sargun | Tene, what about gschem? |
| 07:14.50 | Sargun | tvc |
| 07:14.54 | Sargun | err |
| 07:14.54 | Tene | ??? |
| 07:14.57 | Sargun | Tene, tc |
| 07:15.06 | Sargun | Tene, as schematics design proggy |
| 07:15.14 | Tene | I have no idea. |
| 07:15.25 | Tene | I'm not the person you were talking to. |
| 07:15.32 | Tene | I've never used any schematics anything. |
| 07:15.38 | Sargun | hmm |
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| 14:02.00 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
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| 15:31.18 | tensai | ~lart elg |
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| 16:35.42 | levi_home | Good morning. |
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| 16:37.08 | atoponce | morning |
| 16:37.46 | atoponce | is there a function in perl to convert a number to 8-bit binary? eg: 13 to 00001101 |
| 16:39.12 | Tene | printf |
| 16:40.24 | atoponce | printf? |
| 16:41.03 | Tene | printf |
| 16:41.21 | atoponce | ok... |
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| 17:29.31 | emcnabb | I'm getting old |
| 17:29.40 | elg | ~age emcnabb |
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| 17:33.26 | levi_home | I'm getting too old, too. :/ |
| 17:34.25 | Tene | levi: just get yourself a 15-year-old girlfriend. |
| 17:34.50 | levi_home | Tene: My wife would kill me, if being around a 15-year-old girl didn't. |
| 17:35.12 | Tene | Yes, but at least you'd die feeling younger! |
| 17:35.12 | vontrapp | lol |
| 17:35.34 | levi_home | Tene: I don't think so. |
| 17:35.59 | vontrapp | so i did something i shouldn't have to my router |
| 17:36.07 | Tene | Well at least we all know your weakness now? |
| 17:36.27 | kober | its easy to attract the 15yr olds too, I took my dog out for some del taco lastnight and we ate outside and we had a swarm of young ladies after us |
| 17:36.34 | vontrapp | now it has no more lan address |
| 17:36.36 | vontrapp | i can't ssh into it :/ |
| 17:38.03 | atoponce | Tene: i love your /ctcp version info... |
| 17:38.28 | atoponce | 11:26 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from Tene: The Best Client Ever!!! OMGTJ!!! It even has lasers and a cdrom drive and guitar inputs and a gold-plated diamon cupholder!!!! |
| 17:38.43 | atoponce | hahaha |
| 17:40.24 | atoponce | ataponce? :-)» |
| 17:40.35 | Tene | Yes, I like it too. |
| 17:41.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ CTCP ATAPONCE |
| 17:42.13 | vontrapp | what is ctcp? |
| 17:42.30 | ScytheBlade1 | client to client protocol |
| 17:42.46 | ScytheBlade1 | try /ctcp ScytheBlade1 VERSION |
| 17:46.14 | atoponce | i use /ctcp mainly to see ping times. being on tor, the network can be a bit slow |
| 17:46.32 | ScytheBlade1 | "a bit slow"? |
| 17:46.40 | ScytheBlade1 | 5000ms average ping time is a "bit" slow? ;) |
| 17:47.23 | atoponce | what you talkin' about Willis? ;) |
| 17:48.19 | atoponce | 3.9s to 6.8s. vontrapp is 12.9s away... |
| 17:48.54 | atoponce | that actually isn't bad. average is around 10s |
| 17:49.25 | atoponce | usually |
| 17:50.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I enjoy my latency-lacking IRC far too much |
| 17:55.22 | elg | vontrapp: does it have boot_wait enabled? |
| 17:57.50 | atoponce | that'd be the perfect halloween costume with matching jumper |
| 17:57.50 | atoponce | blah |
| 17:58.49 | vontrapp | elg: yeah |
| 17:58.59 | elg | can't you just reflash it then? |
| 17:59.03 | vontrapp | all i did was put eth0 in with lan_ifnames |
| 17:59.12 | vontrapp | then i couldn't get to it anymore |
| 17:59.15 | elg | methinks your irssi is overpimped |
| 17:59.36 | elg | there's got to be a way to reset the nvram |
| 18:00.08 | vontrapp | well, there is the reset button on the back |
| 18:00.12 | vontrapp | maybe i'll try that |
| 18:00.16 | ScytheBlade1 | There is no such thing as 'overpimped' when it comes to console IRC |
| 18:00.25 | vontrapp | that wouldn't by any chance turn of boot_wait, would it? |
| 18:03.55 | atoponce | ScytheBlade1: i agree. :-)» |
| 18:06.35 | atoponce | either that, or unix epoch |
| 18:06.38 | atoponce | one or the other |
| 18:15.29 | elg | ScytheBlade1: his symptoms make me believe otherwise |
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| 18:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | elg: his symptoms are impressive though |
| 18:43.38 | elg | well the symptom I'm referring to is his difficulty in talking to the right channel |
| 18:43.52 | elg | the rest is pure pimping fun |
| 18:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | He has that problem? |
| 18:44.27 | elg | 5 times this morning |
| 19:16.29 | Sargun | kober, your dog eats tacos? |
| 19:18.56 | bonez39 | anyone a CUPS printing guru? I can't get the HP DeskJet 550c color printer attached to my linux box..to print well; it prints but it's very jagged...no font anti-aliasing, or smoothing........suggestions? |
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| 19:50.05 | Tene | elg: I think that's more distraction/not paying attention than a client thing |
| 19:56.33 | Sargun | bonez39, mine does that too |
| 19:56.36 | Sargun | I got 720c |
| 19:56.52 | Sargun | and on images its prints with "Basic" quality. |
| 19:57.06 | Sargun | I wonder if there is a way to alter the antialiasing/photo settings in the driver |
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| 21:27.07 | levi_home | Wow, fink really wants to install gnome. |
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| 21:27.57 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 21:28.24 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
| 21:28.47 | vontrapp | so i put caradhras in brigde mode |
| 21:29.01 | vontrapp | and i connect through caradhras on dernhelm |
| 21:29.28 | vontrapp | i put two addresses on eth0 so that my other computer, aragorn, can talk to dernhelm |
| 21:29.39 | vontrapp | but it's like real slow or something |
| 21:30.02 | vontrapp | ping works fine, but when i try to ssh it takes forever |
| 21:31.29 | vontrapp | say... if i have a computer behind the bridge running a dhcp server, will that answer computers outside my bridge? |
| 21:34.34 | vontrapp | hmmmm, packet loss |
| 21:34.41 | levi_home | It should. |
| 21:34.52 | vontrapp | but i don't want it to |
| 21:36.52 | vontrapp | ok, how about this, can i put my wrt54g in bridging mode, but only bridge one port through the wireless |
| 21:37.11 | vontrapp | then have the regular four ports on some local subnet |
| 21:37.19 | vontrapp | and have it still do dhcp on those? |
| 21:38.14 | vontrapp | grr, why would i be getting packet loss? |
| 21:39.07 | levi_home | DHCP packets are broadcast packets, so they should go to every node on your ethernet. |
| 21:40.25 | levi_home | If you have a router between two subnets, you can confine broadcast packets that way. |
| 21:40.25 | vontrapp | ok, so caradhras:wan bridged to caradhras:wlan which goes to 192.168.4.0/24 (or whatever) |
| 21:40.58 | vontrapp | and caradhras:vlan1 (ports 1-4) on subnet 172.17.99.0/24 |
| 21:41.14 | vontrapp | and dhcp on that subnet |
| 21:41.17 | vontrapp | that's what i want |
| 21:41.20 | vontrapp | is that possible? |
| 21:41.35 | vontrapp | iow, i want to bridge caradhras, but still have him be a router |
| 21:42.33 | vontrapp | with dhcp and all |
| 21:42.39 | levi_home | Hmm. |
| 21:43.03 | levi_home | vlans ought to be able to isolate networks like that. |
| 21:44.53 | vontrapp | currently i have dernhelm (myu laptop) with a dhcp address from the outside subnet (post-bridge) |
| 21:45.06 | vontrapp | and a 172... address |
| 21:45.20 | vontrapp | and i'm getting packet loss up the wazoo on the 172 subnet |
| 21:45.35 | vontrapp | von@dernhelm ~$ ip route |
| 21:45.36 | vontrapp | 172.17.99.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.99.3 |
| 21:45.36 | vontrapp | 192.168.0.0/21 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.4.123 |
| 21:45.36 | vontrapp | default via 192.168.2.1 dev eth0 src 192.168.4.123 |
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| 22:28.24 | atoponce | elg: 5 times? nah, only once |
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| 22:28.42 | elg | i thought you said 4 times this morning earlier, and then I observed one myself |
| 22:29.16 | atoponce | :-)» |
| 22:30.04 | atoponce | last night i was having issues, but i was tired... |
| 22:30.20 | atoponce | i just have to get used to looking for the red bar... |
| 23:58.21 | levi_home | I think I may end up using boo instead of F# after all. |