| 00:10.16 | macnewbold | findlay: in perl, there are a bunch of good http modules - LWN seems to ring a bell, and mechanize is one of them |
| 00:10.25 | macnewbold | wget and curl work well too |
| 00:57.22 | atoponce | redbeard1: you know about ##cooking? |
| 01:05.12 | findlay | macnewbold: yeah I'm using mechanize and tokeparser |
| 01:26.30 | Sargun | I finally figured out cell phone radiation! |
| 01:26.53 | Sargun | one of the most popular high school phones is the RAZR |
| 01:27.02 | Sargun | and it has one of the highest radiation outputs. |
| 01:27.15 | Sargun | its 'uncool' to use a headset in high school |
| 01:27.23 | Sargun | for girls (not for guys) |
| 01:27.36 | Sargun | to sterilize all the idiotic preps! |
| 01:27.41 | Sargun | Genius is all I can say... |
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| 01:31.49 | findlay | um Sargun, um, there's this phenomenon called 'ionizing radiation' and basically it means that radiation below the threshold cannot do anything chemically harmful, hence biologically harmful |
| 01:32.33 | findlay | and cell phone radiation is well below the threshold way down in the mircowave region |
| 01:32.59 | Sargun | yeah, but I'm hoping that there is some sort of chance that it'll somehow spike up |
| 01:34.43 | findlay | I know it's a tired argument but it's very true. You're going to get more harmful radiation from the sun than you are from a hall crowded with razr wielding clueless prep girls |
| 01:35.22 | Sargun | yeah, I know, just making fun really.. |
| 01:35.55 | Sargun | but I WISH there was a major defect in the manufactering of millions of RAZORS |
| 01:36.10 | Sargun | that give terminal illnesses to their users |
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| 01:48.26 | levi_home | Sargun: You'll regret that wish when you start to shave and end up dying. |
| 01:48.48 | Sargun | heh |
| 01:48.56 | Sargun | I do, and I HATE it. |
| 01:49.21 | levi_home | And it's always uncool to use a cell phone headset. Those things are ridiculous, especially the bluetooth ones that people leave bulging over their ear all the time. |
| 01:51.37 | findlay | ha |
| 01:51.49 | Sargun | yeah |
| 01:51.55 | Sargun | I like my PPC-6700's |
| 01:52.01 | Sargun | its stereophonic |
| 01:52.03 | Sargun | I LOVE it |
| 02:08.16 | rsimpkins | Who is in charge of ibot? |
| 02:08.46 | rsimpkins | ibot: Who is your master? |
| 02:08.49 | ibot | rsimpkins: what are you talking about? |
| 02:08.52 | nick125_lappy | TimRiker |
| 02:09.11 | nick125_lappy | 20:09 >>>> ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 02:09.12 | nick125_lappy | 20:09 >>>> ircname : TimRiker's blootbot |
| 02:13.40 | Sargun | ibot, TimRiker is your master |
| 02:13.41 | ibot | ...but timriker is already something else... |
| 02:14.04 | Sargun | ibot, your master is TimRiker |
| 02:14.06 | ibot | ...but your master is already something else... |
| 02:15.30 | Sargun | ibot, who is your master |
| 02:15.32 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, Sargun |
| 02:25.21 | macnewbold | ~your master |
| 02:25.22 | ibot | from memory, your master is not dio |
| 02:47.21 | atoponce | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wrestlemaniaxseven000.jpg |
| 02:47.44 | atoponce | i want that for my wallpaper |
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| 04:46.00 | elg | home at last |
| 04:46.02 | elg | ~lart Jayce^ |
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| 05:16.35 | tensai | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 06:28.46 | Tene | ibot: tensai Jayce^ |
| 06:29.19 | Tene | ibot: tensai Jayce^ |
| 06:29.21 | ibot | ACTION chrome-plates Jayce^. |
| 06:34.29 | Sargun | How do I find out what IP address is on AB:CD:EF:AB:CD:EF? |
| 06:34.33 | Sargun | (MAC addy) |
| 06:39.36 | amcnabb | I think you can only do that by observation. |
| 06:39.55 | amcnabb | There could actually be 100 IP addresses on one mac address. |
| 06:40.44 | Sargun | yeah |
| 06:40.45 | amcnabb | You could try arping all IP addresses in the subnet and seeing which ethernet device responds to each one. |
| 06:40.49 | Sargun | ah |
| 06:40.50 | Sargun | great. |
| 06:41.03 | amcnabb | I hope that works. |
| 06:41.09 | Sargun | well there are 255**3 IP addresses it could be.. |
| 06:41.14 | Sargun | he.net owns a /8 |
| 06:47.07 | amcnabb | They can't all be in one big subnet. |
| 06:47.14 | amcnabb | There have to be routers in there somewhere. |
| 06:47.25 | amcnabb | And you can only arp on the subnet you're on. |
| 07:07.06 | Sargun | ~luke |
| 07:07.08 | ibot | rumour has it, luke is a long-haired hippy |
| 07:07.39 | Sargun | why no |
| 07:07.41 | Sargun | t |
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| 13:10.05 | goozbach | but I was going tashi station to pick up some power converters |
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| 13:11.26 | elg | -lart goozbach |
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| 13:29.48 | redbeard1 | ~lart elg |
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| 14:07.29 | atoponce | looking for a smiley with a goatee... |
| 14:07.40 | atoponce | :)> :} :)~ |
| 14:08.08 | atoponce | probably the 3rd |
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| 14:23.38 | hans | atoponce: that looks like a smiley that's drooling |
| 14:26.13 | emcnabb | ~lart hans |
| 14:26.51 | findlay | hans: no, its a snake tongue smiley |
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| 14:36.18 | redbeard1 | snakes on a smiley? |
| 14:39.59 | jsmith | What's a geometry teacher's favorite movie? ... Snakes on a Plane |
| 14:41.28 | Jayce^ | ~slap jsmith |
| 14:41.30 | ibot | ACTION slaps jsmith, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:41.43 | jsmith | Sorry, couldn't help it. |
| 14:42.04 | graphyx | What's a Doctor's favorite movie? snakes on a rod. |
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| 14:58.40 | elg | snakes on a phone |
| 15:05.55 | jsmith | elg: Would the audio be in ssssssssssigned linear? |
| 15:08.21 | graphyx | one thing is for sure, they would employ a dial hiss instead of a dial tone. |
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| 15:36.43 | atoponce | hans: what about the 2nd? |
| 15:36.53 | goozbach | buhahah |
| 15:39.19 | atoponce | the 1st looks like he has on a v-neck shirt |
| 15:41.10 | atoponce | ÕvÕ « an owl? |
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| 15:48.51 | redbeard1 | {{:-*}} << klingon eating a tribble |
| 15:51.13 | redbeard1 | <:-O ~~~ <-- jayce being attacked by a snake |
| 15:51.31 | atoponce | *****:)8-< « marge simpson |
| 15:53.01 | atoponce | ()_)__________|> « pencil |
| 15:55.53 | redbeard1 | #:-8 <-- robert smith, back in the heavier lipstick days |
| 15:59.44 | atoponce | goatee? :)# or :-)} or :)} |
| 16:01.25 | jsmith | goozbach: Cool -- now you'll have to buy another one! |
| 16:01.42 | harleypig | *8} |
| 16:01.58 | goozbach | jsmith: i got it for free |
| 16:02.24 | harleypig | :)#() <-- HarleyPig |
| 16:02.25 | jsmith | goozbach: Even better! |
| 16:03.32 | atoponce | i need a freakin' smiley that i can call my own, and i can't figure it out! |
| 16:03.45 | atoponce | although i do have my own lol |
| 16:03.50 | atoponce | £Ø£ |
| 16:03.57 | goozbach | 3-) |
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| 16:04.56 | atoponce | ibot: draw a smiley with a goatee for me |
| 16:05.58 | goozbach | ibot tell atoponce about google |
| 16:06.22 | atoponce | heh |
| 16:06.31 | atoponce | google-schmoogle |
| 16:08.55 | goozbach | smiley biley |
| 16:34.46 | \me | Jayce^: ping |
| 16:38.21 | redbeard1 | Jayce^ is dead |
| 16:38.24 | redbeard1 | i killed him |
| 16:38.35 | redbeard1 | and made it look like an accident |
| 16:40.47 | \me | darn - was hoping to get a friend's contact info before you killed him |
| 16:41.21 | redbeard1 | he didn't have any friends. |
| 16:41.33 | \me | oh - this was my friend, not his ;-) |
| 16:41.39 | \me | he just thought he was a friend |
| 16:41.42 | redbeard1 | i kind of did him a favor, seeing as he didn't have anything to live for |
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| 16:44.41 | redbeard1 | meetings do that to a programmer, you know. make them lose their will to live. |
| 16:45.28 | \me | I had to do a lot of meetings one time |
| 16:45.37 | \me | that was in a previous life though |
| 16:45.43 | redbeard1 | i bet it just killed you, didn't it? |
| 16:46.08 | \me | oh yeah - to the death |
| 16:46.24 | redbeard1 | it killed you to death? |
| 16:46.27 | redbeard1 | that's harsh. |
| 16:46.31 | \me | yeah - pretty bad |
| 16:47.10 | \me | redbeard1: I'm thinking of opening a Thai restaurant somewhere in SLC |
| 16:47.24 | redbeard1 | what kind of food would you serve? |
| 16:47.27 | \me | It will be a learning experience, for sure |
| 16:47.37 | \me | redbeard1: mexican |
| 16:47.42 | redbeard1 | i bet mheath would be willing to help out when he gets back |
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| 16:47.59 | \me | why is that? |
| 16:48.20 | redbeard1 | mheath is a good cook, and he knows how to run a restaurant. |
| 16:48.25 | redbeard1 | he told me so himself. |
| 16:48.28 | \me | does he make good thai food? |
| 16:48.48 | \me | I'm thinking of bringing someone who's been to culinary arts school in Thailand over to America |
| 16:49.13 | redbeard1 | well sure, i mean, they trained him well at applebees |
| 16:49.33 | \me | well, he's hired then |
| 16:50.23 | \me | I'm thinking of getting some basic Thai ingredients, and for the Chef interview doing something similar to Iron Chef for the job |
| 16:50.43 | ScytheBlade1 | And there's another AV win |
| 16:50.45 | redbeard1 | just do a mystery basket. it's pretty standard. |
| 16:50.54 | \me | mystery basket? |
| 16:51.02 | redbeard1 | that's what iron chef is based on |
| 16:51.25 | \me | ah - then that's what I'll do |
| 16:51.41 | redbeard1 | generally you have a basket full of ingredients and three hours. you must use every ingredient in the basket, and sometimes only those ingredients. |
| 16:52.01 | redbeard1 | most culinary schools make you do that at least once before you graduate |
| 16:52.03 | \me | I need to come up with all my costs first along with what I'm charging, so I can get some funding |
| 16:52.19 | \me | along with a good location and environment |
| 16:53.01 | \me | redbeard1: yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking - that will be a good way to get the best food for my liking |
| 16:55.57 | redbeard1 | well, it's one way, but i wouldn't base everything off of that, of course |
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| 16:57.27 | \me | what would you recommend? |
| 16:59.21 | redbeard1 | well, their resume will tell you a lot... the mystery basket is good for validation. and of course you'll drill them on thai food during the interview. |
| 16:59.36 | redbeard1 | but you still won't really know until they've worked a few weeks |
| 17:00.31 | redbeard1 | i can recommend a book that would give you a lot of insight |
| 17:00.57 | redbeard1 | Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain |
| 17:01.14 | redbeard1 | just don't let the story about why he decided to become a chef offend you |
| 17:02.21 | \me | k - thanks. I'll definitely get that book and check it out |
| 17:04.33 | emcnabb | ~rlart |
| 17:04.45 | emcnabb | ~rlart |
| 17:05.03 | \me | what was it - he was offended by people named Jesse or something? :-) |
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| 17:19.33 | \me | redbeard1: if you see Jayce^ tell him I'm looking for David Barlow's contact info |
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| 17:39.53 | atoponce | oooh. split windows in irssi rock |
| 17:41.47 | harleypig | Review of Snakes on a plane: 'The AP got it wrong: "[Snakes on a Plane is] the best time you'll have at the movies all summer, if not all year." Really? Only if you're with a bunch of friends, and by bunch, I mean hundreds.' http://popularthinking.blogspot.com/2006/08/snakes-on-plane-full-review-and-cheat.html |
| 17:41.49 | brac | [popular thinking: Snakes on a Plane: Full review AND cheat-sheet!] |
| 17:42.41 | linuxalien | I heard Samuel Jackson did Snakes on a Plane because he thought it was funny hehe |
| 17:46.05 | linuxalien | It looks fun. I'm gonna take my brother to watch it. |
| 17:46.35 | \me | I want to see it just to see how dumb it was |
| 17:56.30 | harleypig | Another Rocky Horror maybe? I hope so |
| 17:59.41 | findlay | atoponce: yeah feed your irc addiction with two IVs instead of one (: |
| 18:10.02 | redbeard1 | rumor has it the studio decided after samuel jackson signed on that the name was dumb... and when he found out they were thinking of changing the name, he threatened to walk out |
| 18:11.42 | levi | redbeard1, it was apparently going to be renamed Pacific Flight xxx (where xxx is some number) and be PG-rated. |
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| 18:27.41 | linuxalien | redbeard1, hahaha I know that movie was just made for fun. It's pure entertainment! hehe |
| 18:28.17 | redbeard1 | "I do not work out. I have a healthy regimen of cigarettes, alcohol, red meat and runny cheese. I call that [the] Keith Richard diet." - Anthony Bourdain |
| 18:28.46 | dilvie | sci-fi fans.. I need feedback. |
| 18:28.51 | dilvie | http://www.writely.com/View.aspx?docid=ajhrx96tmj5n_8gmn3fh |
| 18:31.14 | [phoenyx] | role-playing game? |
| 18:31.32 | [phoenyx] | or story? |
| 18:48.05 | dilvie | not sure yet |
| 18:48.05 | dilvie | maybe both |
| 18:48.06 | dilvie | just a story for now |
| 18:48.06 | dilvie | not even a whole story |
| 18:48.06 | dilvie | just vague snippets |
| 18:48.06 | linuxalien | What's the console that'll let you write your own games? Is it the 360? |
| 18:48.12 | linuxalien | You might try that or another open source gaming engine if you decided to do that |
| 19:09.41 | dilvie | can't you write your own games for any platform? |
| 19:27.44 | atoponce | findlay: only two?! blah. three! 50% more!! mwahaha |
| 19:29.16 | linuxalien | Yeah, most likely |
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| 19:50.52 | Tene | http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/08/23/cows.accent.reut/index.html |
| 19:50.59 | brac | [CNN.com - Farmers: Cows mooo with a twang - Aug 23, 2006] |
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| 20:53.35 | redbeard1 | elg: you get sunburned? |
| 20:53.40 | elg | yup, at the beach on thursday |
| 20:54.08 | elg | i put sunscreen off, but I guess we stayed there too long |
| 20:54.31 | elg | maybe it wasn't ocean-proof |
| 20:55.42 | redbeard1 | you know that turtle wax isn't meant to be used as sunscreen, right? |
| 21:00.35 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 21:00.36 | emcnabb | -lart elg |
| 21:18.03 | emcnabb | -lart redbeard1 |
| 21:18.07 | redbeard1 | run away! |
| 21:18.26 | graphyx | ~say -lart ibot |
| 21:18.47 | ibot | -lart ibot |
| 21:18.47 | redbeard1 | okay, that was just a little surreal. i just finished reading an article about tony bourdain being stuck in beirut, and they'll occassionally mention some foreign-sounding names... |
| 21:18.48 | redbeard1 | and then i get an email telling me that Kruti isn't the right person for me to work with on this test, i need to talk to Trang, and if she needs help then she'll grab Kruti |
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| 21:20.15 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
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| 21:22.32 | diesel | rsimpkins: What's up? |
| 21:37.51 | rsimpkins | diesel: Hi. Who is this? |
| 21:38.12 | Tene | http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/08/is_windows_inhe.html |
| 21:38.19 | bonez39 | elg, any suggestions for a total noob with bogofilter? How to set it up....etc....to work with mutt....and other mail readers? ? |
| 21:38.26 | elg | bonez39: I like the "train as little as possible" method. I set up mutt so that f9 trains this message as spam and f10 trains it as ham |
| 21:38.32 | bonez39 | really........ |
| 21:38.36 | elg | then I only train it on messages it misclassifies |
| 21:38.39 | bonez39 | spam is stuff you don't want..and ham is OK? |
| 21:39.15 | elg | I have an unsure box that gets stuff that is unsure, so you don't have to go sifting through the spam box (which is all definitely spam) |
| 21:39.15 | elg | right |
| 21:39.16 | elg | anything that was unsure, I train it |
| 21:39.16 | elg | unless I am also unsure whether to call it spam or not. :) |
| 21:39.16 | bonez39 | you haven't written this up on your site though, have you? |
| 21:39.18 | elg | no, I don't think so |
| 21:39.41 | elg | bonez39: http://pastie.caboo.se/9913 |
| 21:41.08 | bonez39 | elg, ok, adding that now |
| 21:41.20 | elg | bonez39: there's lots of really good places to learn about tuning bogofilter. you only have to tune up maybe twice a year or if something funny seems to be happening |
| 21:41.24 | elg | so I don't have anything about it commited to memory |
| 21:41.48 | elg | you'll probably want a procmail rule too |
| 21:41.52 | bonez39 | ok...I'll dig some more...... |
| 21:41.55 | bonez39 | a procmail rule, ok..... have any of those handy? |
| 21:42.02 | elg | http://pastie.caboo.se/9914 |
| 21:42.40 | elg | http://bogofilter.org/faq.shtml#unsure |
| 21:42.43 | brac | [Bogofilter Home Page] |
| 21:43.19 | elg | bonez39: reload that last paste |
| 21:43.23 | elg | i forgot the actual sorting into mailboxes part |
| 21:43.27 | bonez39 | ok....this points me in the right direction...thanks |
| 21:43.31 | bonez39 | elg, where does that procmail item go? into which file? |
| 22:02.30 | elg | .procmailrc |
| 22:02.30 | bonez39 | sigh, I should have guessed that..... |
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| 22:07.51 | elg | dilvie: I'm writing a sequencer |
| 22:08.26 | diesel | rsimpkins: Dave Long |
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| 22:35.44 | dilvie | where's the political debate? |
| 22:36.41 | findlay | ~debate |
| 22:36.55 | ibot | hmm... debate is something that people do in order to reach a conclusion but usually they just end up in an argument |
| 22:50.17 | elg | -lart findlay |
| 22:50.20 | elg | is it politically correct to steal findlay's mojo? let the debate begin |
| 22:50.26 | atoponce | define findlay's mojo... :-)» |
| 22:50.30 | findlay | hey, where's my mojo? |
| 22:50.34 | tensai | http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=blcheck&ip=199.190.151.34 |
| 22:50.38 | tensai | somebody take a look at that and see what you get please? |
| 22:50.42 | atoponce | not listed |
| 22:50.50 | tensai | that's what I keep seeing. so why am I getting these? "451 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?199.190.151.34" |
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| 22:50.54 | Tene | because they're blocking using an RBL aggregator that's cached that result, maybe? |
| 22:50.54 | atoponce | don't know. could be. |
| 22:50.55 | tensai | in a sense, anybody who uses spamcop deserves what they get. but that won't help my customers. |
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| 22:51.33 | findlay | sweet |
| 22:51.36 | findlay | finally got my scanner working |
| 22:51.38 | findlay | (: |
| 22:51.40 | findlay | ~scan |
| 22:51.51 | ibot | /scan is a command used in an irc client called BitchX to show the users in the current channel. see also: bitchx |
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| 23:01.20 | dilvie | I need a large mouse with buttons that go all the way to the edge, and no cord |
| 23:01.22 | dilvie | does such a beast exist? |
| 23:01.44 | dilvie | I know I'm not the only long fingered guy in the world. |
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| 23:03.37 | findlay | dilvie: you should be glad of it as there are many short fingered individuals who struggle to reach fingering positions on decent sized violas and on the pianoforte |
| 23:03.45 | dilvie | findlay: I should track down the photo I took of my handspan |
| 23:03.46 | dilvie | then you could visualize trying to shop for an adequately sized mouse |
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| 23:03.57 | ^Migs^ | is there a way to force all open files closed? |
| 23:04.08 | ^Migs^ | specifically, file descriptors? I'm not sure how it all works in Linux |
| 23:04.12 | tensai | "The SCBL [spamcop blacklist] is aggressive and often errs on the side of blocking mail." |
| 23:04.13 | tensai | yeah, no kidding |
| 23:04.14 | dilvie | findlay: here it is... |
| 23:04.15 | dilvie | http://www.dilvie.com/resources/gfx/photos/handsize.jpg |
| 23:04.23 | elg | wow, I can only get to f |
| 23:04.27 | dilvie | My right hand is less flexible. I can only get reach f in a realistic playing situation |
| 23:04.27 | dilvie | I can reach g if I struggle, though |
| 23:04.28 | atoponce | that's an impressive hand span! |
| 23:04.30 | atoponce | i can reach e, and that's stretching it. |
| 23:04.30 | dilvie | with my left hand, I can actually play chords that span that distance |
| 23:04.33 | dilvie | like, within a musical passage |
| 23:04.34 | ^Migs^ | that looks like a smaller keyboard |
| 23:04.35 | ^Migs^ | well, maybe not |
| 23:04.37 | ^Migs^ | I could get to E. |
| 23:04.37 | ^Migs^ | I had a teacher who could reach two octaves |
| 23:04.38 | atoponce | cancel that. f |
| 23:04.39 | dilvie | I've composed songs that take advantage of that handspan, and had players complain that they couldn't do it, so I had to renotate an alternate inversion for them. |
| 23:05.03 | atoponce | c to e can be reached ok |
| 23:05.07 | elg | i can't reach an f in realistic playing. E is no problem though |
| 23:05.16 | ^Migs^ | do you have any of these songs available for listening, dilvie? |
| 23:05.16 | ^Migs^ | I can only comfortably go from C to D2 |
| 23:05.20 | atoponce | liszt could cover a serious span... |
| 23:05.22 | dilvie | Migs: no, sorry. I'm not very good at keeping up on piano recordings. |
| 23:23.21 | dilvie | You'd have to be a basketball player size to comfortably span two full octaves on a standard sized keyboard |
| 23:23.22 | ^Migs^ | I'm a pupil descendant of Liszt. Secret techniques passed on to his pupils. |
| 23:23.22 | dilvie | there aren't really "standard" sizes per say, actually, but I consider standard to be similar to the Steinway or Yamaha grands. |
| 23:23.22 | ^Migs^ | then passed on to their piano students, etc. |
| 23:23.22 | dilvie | ^Migs^: He had "secrets"? |
| 23:23.22 | ^Migs^ | indeed |
| 23:23.22 | ^Migs^ | Especially some pretty cool finger exercises. You can actually feel your fingers getting stronger as you do them. |
| 23:23.22 | elg | so liszt believed in security by obscurity |
| 23:23.22 | dilvie | in my experience, most piano lineages don't contain "secrets" so much as advanced techniques that could only be mastered if you had mastered certain other skills -- a bit like software dependencies |
| 23:23.22 | ^Migs^ | no, these were SECRET |
| 23:23.22 | ^Migs^ | reckonize |
| 23:23.23 | dilvie | Migs: there's a concept of "closed door" teaching that's conducted strictly one-on-one in order to prevent unprepared students from trying to jump ahead and consequently developing bad habits.. is it possible that somebody along the line misinterpretted that as "secret" |
| 23:23.23 | dilvie | ? |
| 23:23.23 | ^Migs^ | No. They're SECRET. |
| 23:23.44 | dilvie | ^Migs^ Would you be shot if you gave me an example of one of the "secret" techniques? |
| 23:23.55 | elg | the priory of liszt will hunt him down |
| 23:23.55 | dilvie | I'll trade you |
| 23:24.00 | ^Migs^ | The priory prefers life in a torture chamber. |
| 23:24.07 | dilvie | for some of my advanced, and not widely taught techniques |
| 23:24.07 | ^Migs^ | I'm probably a much better pianist than you |
| 23:24.12 | ^Migs^ | so I don't need your noob techniques |
| 23:24.15 | atoponce | he's humble about it too |
| 23:24.20 | elg | ok, where's your recordings? |
| 23:24.20 | dilvie | I'm sure you're technically awesome. |
| 23:24.20 | ^Migs^ | since when is humility necessary when you're as awesome as I am? |
| 23:24.21 | atoponce | ^Migs^: it's not an option |
| 23:24.21 | dilvie | technically, my piano playing is shit, but I can coax emotion out of the piano that few formally trained players can match |
| 23:24.21 | elg | I hope you won't mind us not taking you at your word. a simple recording will be acceptable |
| 23:24.42 | ^Migs^ | as can I, dilvie. |
| 23:25.15 | ^Migs^ | no, if you listen to a recording, you might discover my secret techniques |
| 23:25.32 | dilvie | A "simple recording" is extraordinarilly inadequate. They tend to miss 90% of the nuance. I'd need some good mics, and you'd need a damn good critical listening setup to even come close to doing it justice. |
| 23:25.56 | ^Migs^ | here's a simple recording, anyway: http://www.wsdstaff.net/~justin/Music/Splashing.mp3 |
| 23:26.15 | ^Migs^ | I'm really not that good. Certainly not like I used to be. |
| 23:26.20 | ^Migs^ | even then, I wish I had stuck with the lessons. There are some songs like the Grieg Concerto I spent years perfecting that I can't even play now |
| 23:26.34 | dilvie | I've got some really crap recordings of really crap digital pianos on dilvie.com |
| 23:36.46 | ^Migs^ | cool, I wanna hear |
| 23:36.49 | dilvie | midi recordings suck |
| 23:36.52 | dilvie | only 127 levels of dynamics |
| 23:36.54 | ^Migs^ | depends on the MIDI recording |
| 23:36.54 | dilvie | they suck. |
| 23:36.58 | ^Migs^ | they only suck as much as the MIDI recorder |
| 23:36.59 | dilvie | MIDI is not capable of decent dynamic range. |
| 23:37.00 | ^Migs^ | I've found them to be quite capable of capturing a wide dynamic range |
| 23:37.06 | dilvie | which? |
| 23:37.08 | ^Migs^ | it might help to have soundfonts and such |
| 23:37.13 | elg | 127 is 127 |
| 23:37.14 | dilvie | my favorite midi controller is the Yamaha P series (P60 - P90) |
| 23:37.30 | dilvie | it's got terrific action |
| 23:37.40 | dilvie | but it can't overcome the limitations of the MIDI specification. |
| 23:38.15 | elg | i can't say I've ever noticed the limitation of dynamic range, but dynamic range is not something I've ever obsessed about |
| 23:38.23 | elg | but 127 is not a very big number |
| 23:38.24 | tensai | I have tiny hands. I have difficulty playing a chord spanning a full octave |
| 23:38.26 | dilvie | no, it's not |
| 23:38.31 | elg | ibot: you're on something |
| 23:38.50 | dilvie | imagine if there were only 127 levels of loudness in music |
| 23:38.53 | dilvie | you'd get horrible aliasing noise |
| 23:42.31 | tensai | but think of all the bits you'll save. you'll be rich! |
| 23:42.34 | dilvie | playing a midi controller feels blocky to me... it feels like I'm running into brick wall limitations, compared to the open feeling of a real instrument |
| 23:42.55 | dilvie | Splashing demonstrates decent playing ability |
| 23:42.55 | ^Migs^ | meh |
| 23:42.59 | dilvie | but this recording isn't particularly impressive in terms of emotional range. |
| 23:43.00 | ^Migs^ | I was just messing around on the piano and decided to record it |
| 23:43.07 | ^Migs^ | A "simple recording" was requested. A simple recording was provided. |
| 23:43.36 | elg | congratulations, i consider you at least an equal to my playing |
| 23:43.44 | dilvie | http://www.dilvie.com/music/sanctuary/eric_-_05_sanctuary.ogg <-- seat of my pants improv recording with crap sound font and crap midi |
| 23:44.00 | dilvie | keep in mind I was "composing" as I was playing. |
| 23:44.00 | dilvie | =) |
| 23:44.10 | ^Migs^ | I find it cute how you have to mask your ineptitude with allegations of "crap sound fonts" and "indecent quality" and other factors coming into play to inhibit this so-called amazing talent you supposedly possess. |
| 23:44.13 | dilvie | I possess some skill that isn't commonly taught. |
| 23:44.16 | ^Migs^ | another vague reference to alleged "skill." Can you describe this "skill" in more detail? |
| 23:44.16 | dilvie | I don't consider myself a particularly skilled piano player. |
| 23:45.11 | dilvie | I have a well developed mastery of a small subset of skills that are necessary to play truly emotional piano music.. a subset of skill that isn't commonly picked up by formally trained technical players. |
| 23:45.20 | dilvie | They're not "secret" skills. |
| 23:45.22 | ^Migs^ | I think you're jealous of secret skills |
| 23:45.22 | dilvie | I'm not sure they're worthy of your greatness. |
| 23:45.22 | dilvie | ;) |
| 23:46.11 | elg | back when I was cool I played Rachmaninoff's prelude in c sharp minor well |
| 23:46.11 | ^Migs^ | me too |
| 23:46.12 | elg | that's a fun one |
