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| 00:25.26 | rsimpkins | ~seen hans |
| 00:25.28 | ibot | hans <n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 7d 23h 56m 11s ago, saying: 'doctor $who'. |
| 00:25.38 | Tene | ibot: ibot rsimpkins |
| 00:25.43 | ibot | ACTION does... erm... I dunno... some bot stuff or something to rsimpkins. |
| 00:32.57 | Tene | Heh. My laptop was overheating, so I held it up to the AC |
| 00:33.20 | Tene | Got it down below 100F from above 150F |
| 00:43.46 | rsimpkins | identity crisis? |
| 00:44.52 | Tene | ibot: jayce atoponce |
| 00:44.55 | ibot | ACTION replaces atoponce with a small perl script. |
| 00:45.43 | atoponce | yeah |
| 00:45.45 | atoponce | sorry |
| 00:46.01 | atoponce | lost my cloak, and tried getting it back. got it finally |
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| 03:31.43 | findlay | ~identity crisis |
| 03:31.44 | ibot | STOP CHANGING YOUR DAMN NICK! If you are having an identity crisis, seek counselling! |
| 03:31.54 | findlay | ibot: you weirdo |
| 03:32.12 | findlay | L |
| 03:34.31 | atoponce | wow. |
| 03:36.12 | atoponce | ibot: language |
| 03:36.13 | ibot | rumour has it, language is A set of characters, phonemes, conventions, and rules used for conveying information. The aspects of a language are pragmatics, semantics, syntax, phonology, and morphology. |
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| 04:44.33 | atoponce | ooooh. dsl has reached 3.0. where have i been?! |
| 04:57.25 | Kuyaedz | wow. I only have 2.4b I think |
| 04:59.48 | atoponce | yeah. i just downloaded. i am going to reboot, and see what has been updated |
| 05:37.19 | Sargun | ibot, censorship |
| 05:39.02 | rsimpkins | ~seen Jayce^ |
| 05:39.16 | ibot | jayce^ is currently on #utah, last said: 'now, goozbach + prodigy , that I can see :-p'. |
| 05:39.31 | rsimpkins | Yes, but I'd like to know when he said it. |
| 05:39.57 | Tene | ibot: jayce rsimpkins |
| 05:39.58 | ibot | ACTION replaces rsimpkins with a small perl script. |
| 05:40.05 | rsimpkins | Jayce^ is hardly ever on at night is he? |
| 05:40.43 | rsimpkins | I'm not surprised I am replaced with a small perl script. It probably prints out JAPH too. |
| 05:41.56 | rsimpkins | || atoponce ooooh. dsl has reached 3.0. where have i been?! || <<<< What is dsl? |
| 05:41.57 | Sargun | findlay, you own 42.com? |
| 05:42.20 | Sargun | no. |
| 05:42.32 | Tene | damn-small-linux, I suspect |
| 05:42.45 | rsimpkins | ahh, right. |
| 06:14.51 | findlay | what? |
| 06:14.56 | findlay | yeah, of course |
| 06:15.10 | findlay | I own the source to knowledge on everything |
| 06:18.15 | findlay | did anyone ever doubt that? |
| 06:19.38 | findlay | ibot: findlay is also waxing narcissistic about his innate claim on the fountain of ultimate knowledge on Life, the Universe, and Everything |
| 06:19.43 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps is also waxing narcissistic about his innate claim on the fountain of ultimate knowledge on Life, the Universe, and Everything. |
| 06:19.50 | Tene | Very Good Bread |
| 06:19.52 | findlay | whatever |
| 06:20.07 | Tene | Heh. |
| 06:20.35 | Tene | ibot: findlay |
| 06:20.37 | ibot | from memory, findlay is wanting a SuSE-10.0 rock, or ibot is wierd, or asking too much of you, or crazy |
| 06:20.50 | findlay | the omnipotent knower is foiled in his unctious ways by the homely stupidity of ibot redundantly |
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| 14:05.28 | hans | ~lart jsmith |
| 14:06.15 | jsmith | hans: Thanks... all I need on a Monday morning is a lart to get me going (or set me off) |
| 14:12.25 | hans | sounds like you have enough fun wihth the phone companies |
| 14:12.47 | jsmith | Yup |
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| 14:15.19 | hans | sweet. tranzport is going to give me a donation when I get my sequencer to basic functionality |
| 14:15.28 | levi | Nice. |
| 14:15.36 | levi | What kind of donation? |
| 14:15.40 | hans | a tranzport |
| 14:16.19 | hans | i guess the entity is frontier design |
| 14:16.27 | hans | will be donating a tranzport. if that makes sense :) |
| 14:16.32 | levi | Ahh, yeah. |
| 14:16.40 | levi | I have no idea what a tranzport is, but it sounds cool |
| 14:17.31 | hans | http://frontierdesign.com/Products/TranzPort |
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| 14:26.11 | emcnabb | This morning I wake up, roll out of bed, and go to the computer to start my daily routine. I can't get out, and wireless, DNS, DHCP, etc don't seem to be the problem. What's that noise outside in front of my house. It's a backhoe! Hold on, that's where they laid the cable connection to my house... noooo! |
| 14:26.22 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 14:26.43 | emcnabb | they said it would be fixed by the end of today |
| 14:26.55 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 14:27.00 | goozbach | bitlbee? |
| 14:27.06 | goozbach | any good |
| 14:27.07 | goozbach | ? |
| 14:27.17 | emcnabb | I don't use it |
| 14:27.21 | emcnabb | I'm up at work now |
| 14:27.53 | hans | goozbach: decent |
| 14:27.53 | redbeard1 | emcnabb: wow, when did qwest move to north carolina? |
| 14:28.01 | emcnabb | haha |
| 14:28.06 | goozbach | heh |
| 14:28.30 | emcnabb | this is Time Warner cable. It's the same as all other large beastly companies |
| 14:28.31 | Jayce^ | goozbach, harleypig uses it |
| 14:28.31 | graphyx | emcnabb: Are you going to get you a no "backhoe" yellow triangle sign to hang outside of your house?? |
| 14:28.39 | Jayce^ | he always forgets to check on things |
| 14:28.41 | emcnabb | not a bad idea |
| 14:28.54 | graphyx | photshop idea: |
| 14:29.09 | graphyx | Get a backhoe and put up icons of broken cables on it. |
| 14:29.17 | graphyx | Like the old WWII plane stamps. |
| 14:29.23 | graphyx | for when they shot someone down.. |
| 14:29.23 | emcnabb | haha |
| 14:29.31 | Jayce^ | graphyx, that'll just encourage a quest person |
| 14:30.12 | emcnabb | I went up to the guys digging it and glanced in the hole. I could see both ends of my wire just laying there. A tear budded up in the corner of my eye |
| 14:30.35 | Jayce^ | then you shot him? |
| 14:30.41 | hans | did you get your shotcgun? |
| 14:30.55 | emcnabb | that's why my wife won't let me have a gun |
| 14:31.01 | emcnabb | I guess paintball would work |
| 14:31.24 | emcnabb | of couse a backhoe could do some serious damage to my house |
| 14:31.46 | hans | that's why you appear to be coming from the neighbor's house |
| 14:32.17 | graphyx | emcnabb: IF you slash the tires, it can't move to attack the house. |
| 14:32.35 | graphyx | so firststrike should be disabling it's movement. |
| 14:32.48 | graphyx | Then you can torture it slowly over time without fear. |
| 14:32.55 | hans | or dig a ditch that it can't get across |
| 14:32.58 | emcnabb | those tires are thick |
| 14:33.01 | hans | just don't cut your power linke |
| 14:33.07 | graphyx | big knife. |
| 14:33.10 | graphyx | chain saw. |
| 14:33.16 | graphyx | Drill. |
| 14:33.25 | graphyx | What do you think power tools were made for? |
| 14:33.33 | emcnabb | maybe #utah could do a charity collection for my bond |
| 14:33.47 | emcnabb | Jayce^ would chip in, he's my buddy |
| 14:33.57 | graphyx | What? You are going to get caught? |
| 14:33.57 | emcnabb | I mean bail |
| 14:33.58 | hans | you're hiring james bond? |
| 14:34.09 | graphyx | Then we better just call the whole thing off... |
| 14:34.10 | emcnabb | James Bond would get the job done |
| 14:35.55 | Jayce^ | dunno, it might be that new blond bond.. |
| 14:36.11 | goozbach | bond, bail bond! |
| 14:41.55 | graphyx | That reminds me of one of the activities we did for mutual. |
| 14:42.12 | graphyx | We had a film festival and we did james blond. |
| 14:42.36 | graphyx | including pushing a stuffed shirt off of the roof with a backetball head that bounced when it hit the ground. |
| 14:43.05 | graphyx | We also had a guy getting run over by a train (we dubbed in a model train running over a gi joe) and a bomb (deathstar exploding..) It was fun. |
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| 16:03.40 | [phoenyx] | http://www.umop.com/rps25.htm |
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| 16:03.51 | [phoenyx] | http://www.umop.com/images/rps25_outcomes.jpg |
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| 16:10.53 | hans | ok, that's just too wierd |
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| 16:24.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:24.49 | ScytheBlade1 | apparently something awful is doing a "worst of the web" based on AOL's released data |
| 16:24.51 | ScytheBlade1 | http://i.somethingawful.com//sasbi/2006/08/docevil/8-13-06_13.gif |
| 16:24.59 | bonez39 | any here today have business where you ship products and need to print packing slips along with an invoice? |
| 16:28.05 | bonez39 | no one in manufacturing? |
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| 17:46.15 | emcnabb | This site is awesome, but it requires Windows or MacOS |
| 17:46.18 | emcnabb | http://snakesonaplane.veritalk.com/ |
| 17:46.31 | emcnabb | it may be old news on #utah |
| 17:50.04 | [phoenyx] | looks like a generic portal site to me |
| 17:51.55 | atoponce | too bad |
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| 18:26.27 | hagna | gahhhhh linux wireless networking is a pain!! |
| 18:27.40 | Tene | howso? |
| 18:28.23 | hagna | Tene: what drivers go with this usb device it's an ma111v1/v2 netgear |
| 18:28.44 | Tene | I dunno. i don't even know what drivers my wireless cards use. |
| 18:28.51 | Tene | i don't care as long as they work. |
| 18:29.11 | hagna | Tene: that's interesting how did you even get them working without knowing what drivers |
| 18:29.23 | Tene | I put the cards in the slots. |
| 18:29.40 | hagna | Tene: what distro? |
| 18:29.46 | Tene | Fedora. |
| 18:30.59 | hagna | hmmm I'm trying to do it on gentoo, knoppix, or ubuntu depending on which one is easiest |
| 18:31.28 | Tene | USB wireless is weird. |
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| 18:43.12 | redbeard1 | hagna: i'm with you. linux wireless networking is a pain. |
| 18:43.43 | redbeard1 | i can't get my notebook to stay connected reliably, especially at work |
| 18:43.52 | hagna | redbeard1: yeah couldn't find good docs either |
| 18:44.17 | graphyx | hagna: To get my dlink usb .11b wireless to work, I used ndiswrapper on gentoo. |
| 18:44.37 | redbeard1 | it's been suggested to me that it might be a conflict with something... but that wouldn't explain why it works fine at home, if sketchy at best at work, and was almost non-existant in vegas |
| 18:45.42 | hagna | vegas? recently? |
| 18:45.46 | redbeard1 | hagna: ubuntu has an hcl that seems to be pretty accurate |
| 18:45.53 | redbeard1 | vegas, maybe a month ago |
| 18:47.36 | redbeard1 | hagna: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported |
| 18:47.47 | hagna | ok I'll try that |
| 18:48.01 | redbeard1 | the comments really helped me a lot |
| 18:48.52 | redbeard1 | even better, this seems to be about your drivers specifically: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearMA111 |
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| 18:57.51 | redbeard1 | wasn't there a free tv listings site around a while back, that you could pull information in xml format? |
| 18:59.14 | stuporglue | You might be thinking of zap2it? |
| 18:59.42 | stuporglue | OSS programs could pull info for free, but I don't know how easy it is to grab raw XML from it. |
| 18:59.53 | redbeard1 | was that it? i had an account once, but it's been a while |
| 19:00.19 | stuporglue | I'm pretty sure that's where I've got an account for FatCat -- an OSX prog. that shows channel listings. |
| 19:01.20 | redbeard1 | zap2it sounds familiar, but i remember being able to pull the information down myself... and i remember it being in xml format. |
| 19:05.22 | redbeard1 | yeah, looks like zap2it was it, i found the account area. thanks, stuporglue |
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| 19:16.44 | herlo | ~seen sjansen |
| 19:16.56 | ibot | sjansen <n=sjansen@class1-nat.gurulabs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 10d 18h 47m 30s ago, saying: 'It's hip to be a herlo.'. |
| 19:17.09 | Tene | ~sjansen herlo |
| 19:17.10 | ibot | ACTION tells herlo good things about sjansen |
| 19:17.18 | herlo | poor ibot |
| 19:19.05 | herlo | I am looking for a better solution to do greylisting w/postfix... |
| 19:20.28 | herlo | tried postgrey, gps, and one other (can't remember right now) |
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| 19:23.29 | Tene | Does anyone know how to ask sendmail what version it thinks it is? |
| 19:24.18 | Tene | alternately, does anyone know how to ask dpkg what version of a package is installed? |
| 19:26.21 | herlo | Tene: seems we're the only ones asking.... |
| 19:26.46 | herlo | Tene: no one is replying...sux to be us I suppose |
| 19:26.51 | Tene | How 'bout I tell you to just use sendmail and you tell me to just use postfix? |
| 19:27.03 | herlo | okay, sounds good to me |
| 19:27.10 | Tene | Use sendmail! |
| 19:27.18 | herlo | Tene: just use postfix, its better than sendmail |
| 19:27.29 | herlo | :-D |
| 19:27.50 | Tene | This stupid trashy milter that the client needs doesn't run under postfix. |
| 19:27.58 | Tene | And maybe doesn't run under anything at all, ever. |
| 19:28.01 | Tene | And I hate it. |
| 19:28.11 | herlo | maybe you shouldn't run that milter |
| 19:28.18 | redbeard1 | why would somebody call me on my cell phone to try and find out how to call my wife, because the only number they have for her is her cell phone? |
| 19:28.20 | herlo | and the client can kiss yours |
| 19:29.14 | Tene | Kiss my milter? I don't have one. |
| 19:29.25 | herlo | Tene: any milter will do |
| 19:29.31 | Tene | ahh. |
| 19:30.48 | herlo | does anyone know of a good tutorial for clamav / spamassassin / postfix? I have been searching around a bit and found one with a bunch more pieces, but none of it actually says which pieces go with which |
| 19:31.34 | herlo | oh and it needs to be for CentOS |
| 19:31.36 | herlo | 4 |
| 19:31.44 | Tene | herlo: um... use... sendmail... with a broken milter? |
| 19:32.10 | herlo | Tene: no, postfix is better, ew, sendmail |
| 19:32.38 | herlo | Tene: opinions of MailScanner? |
| 19:32.51 | Tene | I know nothing about it at all whatsoever |
| 19:33.33 | herlo | http://www.mailscanner.info |
| 19:33.44 | herlo | It seems to have some memory leaks, but looks promising |
| 19:33.57 | herlo | free anti-virus scanner among other things... |
| 19:35.31 | herlo | looks possible |
| 19:37.44 | hagna | prism2_usb is a module I want anyone know what package it is part of? |
| 19:38.52 | Tene | no clue |
| 19:39.31 | hagna | it may be part of the kernel, but who knows what option turns it on |
| 19:39.54 | graphyx | hagna: Perhaps this will help. |
| 19:39.55 | graphyx | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Prism2_USB_on_Gentoo |
| 19:40.24 | graphyx | googled: prism2_usb module package gentoo |
| 19:41.59 | hagna | ok thanks |
| 19:45.02 | Tene | sendmail -d0.1 |
| 19:45.16 | Tene | asks sendmail to print its version and compilation options |
| 20:04.26 | findlay | is there an easy way to get the environment to pick up /etc/group changes without having to log out and in again? |
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| 20:12.32 | Tene | newgrp, oslt |
| 20:16.34 | findlay | ~man newgrp |
| 20:17.32 | findlay | ~htmltidy++ |
| 20:23.23 | Sargun | findlay, su - $USER |
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| 20:27.48 | herlo | http://landscapephoto.us/Images/LesliWithHummingbirdMoth.jpg |
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| 20:33.12 | findlay | amcnabb_: if you think c++ template syntax is ugly you should see what function pointers look like |
| 20:33.56 | Tene | What, you mean foo(*funcptr); ? |
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| 20:36.12 | graphyx | herlo: Any particular reason why you shared that photo? |
| 20:36.19 | herlo | looking for an rpm of perl-HTTP-GHTTP dependency ... libghttp.so.1 |
| 20:36.24 | herlo | graphyx: thought it was cool |
| 20:36.31 | graphyx | yeah. IT was. |
| 20:36.41 | graphyx | I didn't realize that moths had a tongue that long. |
| 20:36.44 | herlo | graphyx: never seen anything quite like that before... |
| 20:37.04 | herlo | its a picture of a hummingbird moth up near Timp |
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| 20:37.30 | herlo | the part I found incredible is that the girl in the photo didn't scare it away |
| 20:37.37 | tensai | I'm caught in the middle of rpm hell. who wants to join me? |
| 20:37.51 | herlo | tensai: already there with you man |
| 20:38.11 | herlo | I am constantly 'shaving the yak' |
| 20:38.26 | graphyx | tensai: What did you do to get sent to RPM hell? |
| 20:38.31 | graphyx | Did you try to kill a kernel? |
| 20:38.49 | graphyx | OR copy proprietary code into a GPL program? |
| 20:39.15 | herlo | graphyx: that's worse than findlay sharing with us the boiling point of selenium |
| 20:39.17 | tensai | I need an gd-devel and glib2-devel on rhel3 but for various reasons up2date isn't an option |
| 20:39.23 | herlo | graphyx: very bad... |
| 20:39.29 | herlo | :-P |
| 20:39.40 | herlo | tensai: payment? |
| 20:40.02 | graphyx | herlo: Thanks, just for you man. |
| 20:40.14 | tensai | herlo: we bought it I'm sure, but we're a little short handed today and nobody knows the magic codes |
| 20:40.25 | herlo | tensai: that sucks |
| 20:40.39 | herlo | tensai: and no one wants to call rh to get the codes? |
| 20:40.49 | tensai | so I'm trying to rebuild srpms, figured it wouldn't be that hard |
| 20:40.54 | tensai | turns out, yeah it is |
| 20:41.14 | herlo | tensai: depends on the rpm...but it can be 'rpm hell' |
| 20:41.16 | graphyx | so it was my oldest kid's first day of kindergarten doday. |
| 20:41.33 | herlo | doday? wow |
| 20:41.53 | graphyx | s/doday/today |
| 20:41.55 | herlo | graphyx: did you cry? |
| 20:42.03 | graphyx | should I have? |
| 20:42.12 | amcnabb_ | findlay, I don't think function pointers are ugly. |
| 20:42.12 | graphyx | "My baby's all grown up". |
| 20:42.19 | herlo | graphyx: when my son went to school, I was so excited for him... |
| 20:42.38 | graphyx | herlo: You just have to make it fun for them. And they will think it is fun. |
| 20:42.40 | herlo | graphyx: no tears |
| 20:43.16 | herlo | graphyx: thanx for the advice, but I did well enough, that was last year. He starts 1st grade in 2 weeks |
| 20:43.54 | graphyx | herlo: I am not attempting to give you advise. I am sure you know how to take care of him by now. |
| 20:43.58 | tensai | graphyx: at first I read "you just have to make fun of them" |
| 20:44.21 | herlo | graphyx: he enjoyed school, but already doesn't "like it", kids! |
| 20:44.38 | graphyx | Well 1st grade, that's a big step from kindergarten. |
| 20:44.48 | tensai | herlo: well gd is one of those ones. it requires freetype-devel which doesn't "require" x11 but fails to build because of missing x11 headers. well, x11 depends on freetype-devel. how about that? |
| 20:44.49 | herlo | graphyx: he hasn't started yet |
| 20:45.06 | graphyx | They start early here. |
| 20:45.07 | herlo | tensai: sounds about right |
| 20:45.15 | graphyx | I suppose it is to get them out of the heat. |
| 20:45.19 | herlo | graphyx: they start in Utah this week too |
| 20:45.31 | herlo | graphyx: but he live in CA now |
| 20:45.43 | herlo | s/live/lives |
| 20:46.01 | graphyx | weather today: 94 degree 49% humidity feels like 104. |
| 20:46.34 | herlo | graphyx: I bet |
| 20:46.44 | herlo | tensai: here's my hell, its even with yum: http://pastebin.ca/143037 |
| 20:47.25 | herlo | and I can't seem to find a package for libghttp.so.1 |
| 20:47.31 | herlo | that works anyway |
| 20:47.49 | herlo | I ran 'yum install spamassassin', btw |
| 20:49.19 | tensai | is there a way to build just a specific rpm from a source rpm? gd.src.rpm has some demos that I really just don't need. If I could just build gd-devel.rpm without gd-demos.rpm that would work, I think. |
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| 21:02.56 | herlo | tensai: try rpm --rebuild |
| 21:03.18 | tensai | I've been using rpmbuild --rebuild foo.src.rpm |
| 21:03.21 | tensai | is that different? |
| 21:03.25 | herlo | yeah, that's what I mean |
| 21:03.26 | herlo | mistyped |
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| 21:08.04 | tensai | I don't see any option for rpmbuild --rebuild --package gd-devel gd.src.rpm though :( |
| 21:13.54 | herlo | tensai: you don't need --package, its not even in the man page from what I can tell |
| 21:14.20 | tensai | herlo: that's what I'm saying. I *want* that feature but I don't see anything similar to it. |
| 21:15.05 | herlo | are you saying that --package is for a dependency? |
| 21:15.15 | herlo | couldn't you just modify the .spec file? |
| 21:15.31 | redbeard1 | utah schools question, if i could break in for a moment.. |
| 21:16.32 | herlo | redbeard1: no way man, we can't talk about utah schools, this isn't #utah or anything |
| 21:16.37 | herlo | ;) |
| 21:16.39 | redbeard1 | are there a lot of people that use uea weekend as an excuse to take off monday morning as well? |
| 21:16.50 | redbeard1 | er. monday in general? |
| 21:16.51 | herlo | redbeard1: of course, that's normal |
| 21:17.08 | redbeard1 | i don't remember ever doing that when i was a wee lad |
| 21:17.10 | herlo | its also usually the start of deer hunt |
| 21:18.04 | redbeard1 | we're trying to decide whether to hold the next utah bakers dozen meeting on oct 9th or oct 16th, and somebody suggested that uea might cause problems for some people if we go for the 16th |
| 21:18.43 | redbeard1 | personally, i would rather meet on the 16th, tho |
| 21:18.51 | findlay | what kind of problems |
| 21:18.54 | findlay | ? |
| 21:19.36 | redbeard1 | findlay: they think that a lot of people that use uea weekend as as excuse to vacation might be gone the following monday too |
| 21:20.15 | findlay | right |
| 21:20.41 | herlo | redbeard1: I would agree, you are asking for very low attendance if you schedule during uea |
| 21:21.03 | herlo | redbeard1: do it on the 23rd |
| 21:21.10 | herlo | as a suggestion |
| 21:21.22 | redbeard1 | well, there's also the 9th |
| 21:22.24 | redbeard1 | either way, i would hate to have to take monday off two weeks in a row. i don't think the boss would like it either. |
| 21:23.12 | tensai | herlo: I edited the spec and got it to build, sorta. oh, maybe I need -bi instead of -bc. |
| 21:23.27 | tensai | I don't have an rpm yet, but this is looking better |
| 21:25.14 | herlo | tensai: unfortunately, I haven't spent enough time with the .spec file to help there.... |
| 21:26.00 | tensai | ooh, it says it build an rpm. let's see if it works |
| 21:26.18 | herlo | tensai: yeah, I would say to do a -bi |
| 21:26.50 | tensai | I've got gd-devel installed! |
| 21:26.55 | tensai | ~lart redhat |
| 21:26.58 | tensai | ~herlo++ |
| 21:29.16 | herlo | tensai: good job man!! |
| 21:30.22 | herlo | tensai: I always could use an incremental increase. I'll pass that on to my employers...:-D |
| 21:36.27 | tensai | k. now why is it building just fine on one server but not the other? ... |
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| 21:47.12 | bonez39 | jsmith, greetings..how's asterisk today? |
| 21:48.20 | goozbach | I spent today in an asterisk class |
| 21:49.21 | Sargun | cool |
| 21:49.32 | Sargun | did they the codec test? |
| 21:50.32 | nick125_lappy | lol, he left :p |
| 21:50.37 | nick125_lappy | you guys scared him off |
| 21:51.04 | Sargun | er |
| 21:51.05 | Sargun | do |
| 21:51.16 | Sargun | isn't jsmith the asterisk god? |
| 21:52.13 | tensai | he did write the book. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596009623 |
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| 22:08.51 | harleypig | can someone help me get my 770 connected to my home wireless network? |
| 22:08.52 | harleypig | I've been able to connect to my work wireless network, and my laptop connects to both home and work, so my 770 must be setup incorrectly for my home network, but I can't firuge out what. |
| 22:10.20 | harleypig | s/firuge/figure/ |
| 22:11.51 | Tene | Talk about the details. I'll see if anything stands out for me. |
| 22:12.09 | Tene | How do you like your 770, btw? What do you most use it for? |
| 22:12.57 | harleypig | I've only had it since Thursday (or wednesday). I like the fact that I can apt-get, but I've really spent the last 2 days trying to get it to connect. |
| 22:13.22 | harleypig | It's a nice sturdy little device ... |
| 22:13.26 | harleypig | Nice resolution |
| 22:13.35 | harleypig | quick response, nice battery life |
| 22:14.06 | harleypig | My plans are to use it mainly as a mail/news/rss/calendar/task manager. |
| 22:14.23 | harleypig | So, networing ... My home network is an ad-hoc network, hidden, no security. |
| 22:15.05 | harleypig | the 770 sees it but whenever it tries to connect I get the 'link-local' address (the 254.169. error address) |
| 22:15.21 | harleypig | err .. 169.254 ... |
| 22:15.37 | harleypig | the router doesn't see the connection attempt at all as far as I can tell. |
| 22:16.02 | harleypig | but my mom's computer and my laptop connect fine |
| 22:17.31 | harleypig | alos, it's a mac filtered network, but the mac is in the list |
| 22:35.37 | rsimpkins | msg Jayce^ Hi there. Is Hans Fugal still the SA for plug.org? |
| 22:35.44 | rsimpkins | lol |
| 22:35.48 | rsimpkins | *blush* |
| 22:37.27 | rsimpkins | At least it wasn't something really private like "Hey, how about that nick125_lappy guy. Whaddup with him?" |
| 22:37.32 | rsimpkins | ;) |
| 22:38.14 | Tene | ~nick125 rsimpkins |
| 22:38.28 | ibot | ACTION puts rsimpkins on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes rsimpkins use Gentoo on there. |
| 22:38.47 | Tene | harleypig: can you just set everything up statically? |
| 22:39.56 | harleypig | the router is running dhcpd, but I've set it to give that mac a static ip ... the problem is, the connection attempt never even appears in the logs on the router. |
| 22:43.12 | Tene | Can you just set it statically to that IP? |
| 22:43.21 | Tene | and turn off the macfiltering? |
| 22:46.17 | harleypig | Im hesitant to do that ... I wanted to make sure there wasn't anything else I could do ... |
| 22:46.23 | tensai | harleypig: can you run a sniffer on the router? do you see any dhcp requests at all? |
| 22:46.40 | tensai | or if it's wireless you should be able to sniff them on another node |
| 22:47.13 | harleypig | its a really simple router ... never really run a sniffer ... airsniff? |
| 22:49.51 | QBFreak | note to self, smaller power supply ideal when trying to learn electronics |
| 22:55.10 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 22:55.29 | nick125_lappy | ouch |
| 22:55.40 | Tene | checked the network name and channel and such? |
| 22:56.27 | tensai | harleypig: if you run kismet on your laptop you should be able to capture all the goings on |
| 22:56.41 | Tene | nodnod |
| 22:56.47 | nick125_lappy | or ethereal |
| 22:56.48 | Tene | ~kismet++ |
| 22:56.50 | nick125_lappy | er |
| 22:56.52 | nick125_lappy | wireshark |
| 22:56.53 | Tene | ~karma kismet |
| 22:56.53 | ibot | kismet has karma of 1 |
| 22:57.01 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 22:57.04 | nick125_lappy | ~kismet++ |
| 22:57.31 | nick125_lappy | I love kismet :D |
| 23:06.01 | harleypig | great ... kismet appears to have some setup ... any quicky tutorials? |
| 23:06.19 | Tene | vim /etc/kismet.somethingorother |
| 23:06.27 | Tene | it's pretty clearly documented |
| 23:06.34 | Tene | all I had to do was set the interface I wanted to use |
| 23:07.03 | harleypig | empty doc in /etc/kismet |
| 23:07.19 | Tene | hmm |
| 23:07.20 | harleypig | using ubuntu ... isn't it dpkg-reconfigure kismet? |
| 23:07.27 | Tene | no idea |
| 23:07.39 | harleypig | nope |
| 23:07.53 | Tene | it should have installed some example/sample configs... |
| 23:07.59 | Tene | maye /usr/share/doc/kismetsomething |
| 23:11.14 | Tene | http://thc.segfault.net/root/phun/unmaintain.html |
| 23:21.15 | nick125_lappy | nano -w /etc/kismet.conf |
| 23:21.21 | nick125_lappy | you mainly need to set the source |
| 23:21.56 | harleypig | nick125_lappy: there were no config files ... #ubuntu told me to add --purge to the remove and reinstall and they're there now ... |
| 23:22.00 | harleypig | thanks |
| 23:22.37 | nick125_lappy | weird |
| 23:23.04 | harleypig | all distros have wierdities sometimes |
| 23:23.10 | harleypig | so, source=eth1? |
| 23:23.19 | harleypig | or do I need to have more there? |
| 23:23.28 | nick125_lappy | what kind of card is eth1? |
| 23:23.47 | nick125_lappy | # source=sourcetype,interface,name[,initialchannel] |
| 23:23.54 | nick125_lappy | for me, that would be.. |
| 23:23.55 | nick125_lappy | source=ipw3945,eth2,wireless |
| 23:24.14 | nick125_lappy | http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml < theres a list of the source types |
| 23:24.53 | harleypig | hmmm .. oh ... that answers that question |
| 23:27.11 | harleypig | oh ... it's the driver name |
| 23:41.30 | goozbach | Jayce^: http://www.radioactivepanda.com/comic/119 |
