| 00:01.11 | findlay | nick125_lappy: imagine gentoo on that thing (: |
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| 00:03.04 | EpP | findlay: so yo approve? |
| 00:03.21 | EpP | oh nevermind, lol |
| 00:04.03 | EpP | how do i shutdown a x session... i have 0 which is mine... then i have :1 and :2 running... how do i kill them? |
| 00:05.03 | findlay | you could probably stuff your computer with explosives |
| 00:06.10 | findlay | less drastic methods include pulling out the power plug, rebooting, killing the X server, and finally closing each session individually by hand |
| 00:06.41 | findlay | other methods are left as an excercize for the industrious reader |
| 00:06.54 | EpP | how do i close them by hand? |
| 00:07.02 | graphyx | turn the door handle and pull? |
| 00:07.04 | graphyx | j/k. |
| 00:07.18 | EpP | ha |
| 00:07.30 | findlay | EpP: what stuff do you have running on them? |
| 00:07.38 | findlay | gnome? KDE? |
| 00:07.47 | EpP | findlay: i ran vncserver, it ran them. |
| 00:08.08 | findlay | can you still get to the displays? |
| 00:08.10 | stuporglue | vncserver -kill :1 |
| 00:08.10 | EpP | findlay: im running nothing on one... and ont he other fluxbox |
| 00:08.19 | EpP | thx stuporglue |
| 00:08.27 | stuporglue | maybe --kil |
| 00:08.31 | stuporglue | er. --kill |
| 00:08.35 | EpP | findlay: effort is good. |
| 00:08.49 | findlay | at least you have those other options |
| 00:08.53 | EpP | now checkout the hardware i want and see if you apporve. Thinkpad z60m |
| 00:09.01 | EpP | findlay: true. lol |
| 00:09.02 | findlay | let me know if you need explosives |
| 00:09.12 | EpP | findlay: KNO3? |
| 00:09.59 | findlay | all I can say is a laptop is pretty much a laptop. Thinkpads seem to be good |
| 00:10.02 | EpP | stuporglue: worked. thx |
| 00:10.15 | EpP | findlay: its a big, 7lb laptop. |
| 00:11.15 | EpP | findlay: how old are you |
| 00:11.26 | findlay | pretty old |
| 00:12.25 | findlay | way too old to still be pursuing a (first) undergraduate degree |
| 00:12.44 | EpP | like 28? |
| 00:12.50 | findlay | 25 |
| 00:12.58 | EpP | findlay: thats not too old. |
| 00:13.23 | EpP | knowledge is knowledge |
| 00:18.24 | EpP | so anyone think 7 lbs is too heavy for a laptop? |
| 00:21.05 | emcnabb | it depends |
| 00:21.19 | emcnabb | I've had all types of laptops |
| 00:21.32 | emcnabb | from the super small to large (but not mega) |
| 00:21.50 | emcnabb | I've found my Thinkpad T43 to be the perfect size |
| 00:22.04 | EpP | how big was the large? |
| 00:23.41 | emcnabb | I had an old Dell that was 7 - 8 lbs |
| 00:23.54 | EpP | was that too big, or not too bad? |
| 00:24.01 | emcnabb | it was ok |
| 00:24.12 | emcnabb | after that one I moved to a small Sony Vaio |
| 00:24.24 | emcnabb | which I ended up hating after about a year |
| 00:24.53 | emcnabb | EpP: what do you do profession-wise? |
| 00:26.18 | EpP | emcnabb: im a highschool student |
| 00:26.58 | emcnabb | cool |
| 00:27.14 | findlay | EpP: you probably have some time and prerogative to experiment and find out what your laptop tastes are |
| 00:27.28 | EpP | findlay: true |
| 00:27.46 | graphyx | Well I ordered a 19" widescreen lcd monitor from newegg. I received it 27 hours after the order was placed "standard" shipping. |
| 00:27.49 | graphyx | It's pretty sweet. |
| 00:27.56 | graphyx | hanns-g |
| 00:28.02 | graphyx | band |
| 00:28.05 | graphyx | er.. brand |
| 00:29.11 | EpP | I would go for the z60t thats 14in but it has intel GMA 900 and i want the ATI that comes with z60m |
| 00:30.50 | findlay | emcnabb: I have an SCSI scanner that prints out error messages into the kernel log when I try to use it. Do you think that means the device is bad? Is there any way to find out for sure? |
| 00:32.51 | emcnabb | what error messages? |
| 00:33.25 | emcnabb | I've found scanning support in Linux to be quite lacking, so I'm more inclined to think it's a Linux issue |
| 00:33.42 | findlay | atp870u: abort Channel = 0 |
| 00:34.13 | findlay | then "Device offlined" and a dump of some kind |
| 00:34.56 | findlay | the scanner itself is driven by sg.ko and the pci scsi card by atp870u.ko |
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| 00:35.13 | emcnabb | hum |
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| 00:42.02 | findlay | http://pastebin.ca/133632 that's it |
| 00:51.33 | findlay | sane says that this scanner is fully supported, however it looks as if the generic sg driver does not like the scanner |
| 00:51.52 | findlay | I guess I'll be asking on the sane-devel list |
| 00:53.25 | nick125_lappy | nice |
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| 02:02.52 | EpP | wow. sccreen is cool. im sshing from my friends house. |
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| 02:03.28 | maquis | EpP: :) |
| 02:04.10 | Tene | ~epp maquis |
| 02:04.54 | Tene | ~epp maquis |
| 02:04.56 | ibot | ACTION logs into maquis via ssh and connects to her screen session. |
| 02:11.05 | goozbach | ~spell burgoning |
| 02:18.33 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 02:18.43 | vontrapp_ | -lart maquis |
| 02:18.50 | maquis | ~lart vontrapp_ |
| 02:24.28 | goozbach | http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firestarterlc9.jpg |
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| 03:21.10 | goozbach | ntpdate[32596]: step time server 198.60.22.240 offset 10802.087922 sec |
| 03:21.12 | goozbach | ouch |
| 03:21.21 | goozbach | how'd I get soo far off? |
| 03:21.43 | Tene | ~sjansen goozbach's time |
| 03:21.45 | ibot | ACTION tells goozbach's time good things about sjansen |
| 03:33.19 | goozbach | ~say invoke goozbach |
| 03:33.21 | ibot | invoke goozbach |
| 03:33.42 | goozbach | coo |
| 04:03.02 | atoponce | how do split windows work in irssi? /window new creates one, then what? |
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| 04:04.50 | Tene | /window split, I think |
| 04:05.11 | nick125_lappy | split windows |
| 04:05.12 | nick125_lappy | mm |
| 04:05.33 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 04:05.54 | Tene | oh |
| 04:05.58 | atoponce | i have like windows all over the place now, and have no idea how to get rid of them |
| 04:06.00 | Tene | it's /window new split |
| 04:06.08 | Tene | to make a new one |
| 04:06.14 | Tene | atoponce: /help window |
| 04:06.44 | maquis | atoponce: i recall getting stuck in that same problem |
| 04:06.56 | maquis | i think it was something like ^a ^k or something |
| 04:07.16 | maquis | atoponce: actually |
| 04:07.20 | maquis | ^a k |
| 04:07.37 | maquis | i have a feeling i was a bit late on that |
| 04:08.19 | nick125_lappy | probably |
| 04:08.33 | nick125_lappy | ugh |
| 04:08.34 | nick125_lappy | stupid typos |
| 04:08.55 | nick125_lappy | I'm ignoring 1, 3, 4, 6, 9, and 11 |
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| 04:10.27 | Tene | maquis: irssi windows, not screen windows |
| 04:10.34 | Tene | ^a,k is kill |
| 04:10.40 | Tene | ^a,x deletes a region |
| 04:10.49 | maquis | Tene: oh... |
| 04:11.12 | maquis | atoponce: sorry |
| 04:11.17 | Tene | hehe |
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| 04:13.20 | atoponce | it's ok |
| 04:13.41 | atoponce | gotta love irssi with autojoin |
| 04:14.02 | maquis | yeah |
| 04:14.46 | atoponce | besides, it got me out of my window split problem :) |
| 04:14.57 | maquis | atoponce: er... yup |
| 04:19.11 | atoponce | http://f0rked.com/articles/irssisplit «- atoponce reads |
| 04:27.50 | atoponce | intersting... pretty cool actually. |
| 04:27.50 | atoponce | i can see how this would be really *really* useful |
| 04:27.50 | atoponce | of only irssi could do vertical splits |
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| 06:13.03 | levi_home | maquis: Do you still have your AI textbook? |
| 06:14.37 | maquis | levi_home: for one day, yes |
| 06:15.10 | maquis | i'm planning on selling it back tomorrow |
| 06:19.15 | levi_home | How much? |
| 06:19.27 | levi_home | It's Norvig, right? |
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| 06:44.47 | levi_home | maquis: I'll buy it from you for whatever you'd pay the bookstore for it, if it's not too inconvenient. |
| 06:44.59 | levi_home | Er, whatever the bookstore would pay you, I mean. |
| 07:00.37 | Tene | anyone know about installing perl modules on OSX? |
| 07:01.59 | findlay | perl -MCPAN -e 'install Perl::Module' |
| 07:02.11 | Tene | Heh. |
| 07:02.24 | findlay | otherwise OSX is an inferior distro |
| 07:02.26 | Tene | no package management at all? |
| 07:02.46 | findlay | Tene: other than fink, probably not |
| 07:02.51 | Tene | lame |
| 07:02.54 | Tene | 'kay |
| 07:03.04 | findlay | s/fink/fink, whatever/ |
| 07:04.02 | findlay | well, if there's anything, it's not going to be hard to be better than windows' "Add, Remove Software" |
| 07:04.46 | findlay | the one thing P vendors will never get is centralized, convenient, flexible version control |
| 07:05.37 | Tene | P vendors? |
| 07:05.59 | findlay | proprietary |
| 07:06.03 | Tene | ahh |
| 07:06.06 | findlay | except that I'm sick of that word |
| 07:06.11 | Tene | je'e |
| 07:06.24 | findlay | sick of saying it, sick of typing it, sick of thinking it |
| 07:06.36 | Tene | .ie |
| 07:07.13 | findlay | it's hard to be so exactingly idealistic in this filthy world sometimes |
| 07:08.15 | findlay | ironically, that rigidity is all that makes it worth it to be alive |
| 07:08.25 | Tene | interesting |
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| 15:34.16 | goozbach | ~rlart |
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| 15:47.21 | goozbach | wow |
| 15:47.23 | goozbach | tired |
| 15:47.44 | Jayce^ | ditto |
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| 16:08.18 | redbeard1 | oh man, i had the WORST dream last night |
| 16:08.25 | redbeard1 | oh, it was so horrible |
| 16:08.37 | Jayce^ | you starting using windows at work? |
| 16:08.42 | Jayce^ | oh wait, you choose to do that |
| 16:08.55 | redbeard1 | i was standing in line for the cure concert, and when i got to the door, i couldn't find my ticket |
| 16:09.04 | redbeard1 | oh man, it was so awful |
| 16:10.17 | redbeard1 | i couldn't get in, nobody had any tickets left to scalp, nothing. |
| 16:10.40 | redbeard1 | my ticket was only a few rows from the stage too |
| 16:11.15 | redbeard1 | i woke up in a sweat, man. such a horrible nightmare. |
| 16:11.31 | Jayce^ | yeah, you know what your wife would do to you if you lost cure tickets? |
| 16:11.41 | redbeard1 | she was already inside |
| 16:11.48 | Jayce^ | oh, she wouldnt' care then |
| 16:11.53 | redbeard1 | yeah, exactly |
| 16:21.01 | Jayce^ | mm, jalepeno smokehouse almonds... |
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| 16:22.58 | redbeard1 | http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_4188445 |
| 16:24.27 | [phoenyx] | I missed several questions on this quiz: http://www.microsoft.com/india/offers/vista/quiz.aspx |
| 16:24.37 | [phoenyx] | but I dispute their answers |
| 16:27.36 | amcnabb | I'm filling it out right now. |
| 16:27.46 | Jayce^ | won't come up for me |
| 16:28.04 | amcnabb | I haven't submitted it yet, but I'm sure I'm right. |
| 16:28.07 | Jayce^ | there, finally went after I said something |
| 16:30.06 | amcnabb | At least, Windows Vista brings confusion to _my_ world. |
| 16:30.16 | Jayce^ | amen |
| 16:30.32 | amcnabb | You can't put February 2008 on question 3 |
| 16:30.35 | amcnabb | That's too bad. |
| 16:32.19 | [phoenyx] | where are the "none of the above" options? |
| 16:32.22 | [phoenyx] | honestly |
| 16:33.02 | amcnabb | Question 6 is simply a rephrasing of, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" |
| 16:34.04 | amcnabb | So what gift do they give you, anyway? |
| 16:34.44 | graphyx | that quiz is great. |
| 16:34.46 | graphyx | You got 0 out of 8 questions right. To have your gift couriered, please click on the button below and provide your details. |
| 16:35.00 | graphyx | vista beta 2 dvd |
| 16:35.06 | amcnabb | wow |
| 16:37.51 | spr | The new glass effect isn't from a system called aqua? wow, I never would have guessed. |
| 16:38.14 | redbeard1 | graphyx: i got the first question right. that was all. |
| 16:38.21 | spr | and it isn't a minimum of 4 GB of RAM? |
| 16:38.52 | redbeard1 | i thought the minimum was much higher than that |
| 16:39.25 | redbeard1 | maybe they're only counting requirements to boot, but not necessarily to load any apps |
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| 17:08.32 | redbeard1 | IBOT! |
| 17:10.45 | redbeard1 | when did ibot get back? |
| 17:13.06 | Tene | ibot: say something annoying every five minutes. |
| 17:13.08 | ibot | something annoying every five minutes. |
| 17:13.15 | Tene | grr... |
| 17:14.27 | redbeard1 | ibot: you don't say |
| 17:19.38 | redbeard1 | ibot: Yar. |
| 17:19.50 | findlay | ibot: howdy |
| 17:19.52 | ibot | howdy right back at ya'! |
| 17:20.08 | redbeard1 | ibot: why would you answer him and not me? |
| 17:22.01 | redbeard1 | ~lart ibot |
| 17:22.27 | Tene | ~lart ibot |
| 17:22.29 | redbeard1 | i think this is personal. |
| 17:25.44 | redbeard1 | "My neighbors thought I was insane because I was standing there with a stopwatch grilling ice cubes for three days." - Alton Brown |
| 17:26.10 | amcnabb | Why was he grilling ice cubes? |
| 17:26.19 | amcnabb | That sure sounds insane. |
| 17:26.41 | redbeard1 | i think he talks about it in his first book. something about testing for hot spots |
| 17:33.43 | amcnabb | That makes sense. |
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| 17:53.33 | Tene | ibot: ibot TimRiker |
| 17:53.34 | ibot | ACTION does... erm... I dunno... some bot stuff or something to TimRiker. |
| 18:27.48 | beandog | http://arcanux.org/kumanoko_nintendo_ds_2.jpg |
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| 18:47.12 | levi | Is #utah-ot for on topic discussion? ;) |
| 18:48.21 | atoponce | must be. #utah seems to be mostly off-topic. :) |
| 18:48.53 | atoponce | grilling ice cubes, dreams, quiche... |
| 18:48.59 | atoponce | :) |
| 18:49.05 | beandog | besides, nobody uses Gentoo. |
| 18:49.10 | beandog | bunch of losers. |
| 18:49.32 | atoponce | including those odd mozilla users... ;) |
| 18:59.53 | TimRiker | ibot: time |
| 18:59.56 | ibot | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2006.08.16 18:59:56 GMT) |
| 19:00.15 | levi | Hah, time cube. |
| 19:05.11 | beandog | nature's perfect time cube? |
| 19:07.11 | levi | Have you not seen the time cube site? |
| 19:07.50 | Tene | Time is a cube. |
| 19:07.59 | Tene | every day is four 24-hour days. |
| 19:08.28 | redbeard1 | the world is a vampire |
| 19:14.20 | atoponce | it definitely shouldn't be the political stepstool of timecube.com... |
| 19:14.28 | atoponce | that site is a joke |
| 19:17.18 | mrpull | i took a look at shopify.com yesterday |
| 19:17.23 | mrpull | it looks really nice. |
| 19:18.19 | mrpull | the FLOSS (errr the cheap SOB ) tendencies in me made me wonder if there is something Free that is similar or better |
| 19:26.17 | redbeard1 | wow. i'd never heard of time cube before. |
| 19:26.24 | redbeard1 | he doesn't make it easy to read, does he? |
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| 19:47.25 | atoponce | redbeard1: and the sad thing is the effort that went into that garbage |
| 19:51.35 | atoponce | from the site: Truth about Santa Claus debunks |
| 19:51.35 | atoponce | Santa God. God evolves from Santa. |
| 19:52.04 | atoponce | that puts a whole new spin on evolution i think ;) |
| 20:00.32 | atoponce | "I offer evil ass Harvard students $10,000.00 to disprove Nature's Cubic Creation Principle." |
| 20:02.01 | atoponce | i'd say this man suffers from schizophrenia |
| 20:03.44 | goozbach | slime cube |
| 20:03.59 | goozbach | slime is not gelatonious |
| 20:04.01 | goozbach | it is cubic |
| 20:08.00 | mrpull | no thoughts on shopify alternatives? |
| 20:13.47 | maquis | http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/insp_kobayashi.jpg |
| 20:14.25 | maquis | goozbach: it could be a gelatinous cube..... or a slime mold |
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| 20:25.51 | SB1-Work | So, who in here is familiar with Sangoma T1 cards, or T1s in general? |
| 20:27.14 | SB1-Work | I have an A104 (four-port), and I need to configure it to offer 2 P2P T1s on two ports |
| 20:27.28 | SB1-Work | But all I can seem to do is make two PPP interfaces on one port |
| 20:27.29 | SB1-Work | ... |
| 20:33.09 | goozbach | woot! I'm all sortso of excited for digium traning next week |
| 20:33.21 | goozbach | they give you a PBX card in your swag! |
| 20:33.47 | SB1-Work | goozbach, know anything? ;) |
| 20:34.14 | SB1-Work | I'm desperate, I'm about to call their 1-800 number for tech support ;) |
| 20:34.52 | goozbach | SB1-Work: nope |
| 20:34.56 | goozbach | you're on your own |
| 20:35.09 | SB1-Work | goozbach, I had to try |
| 20:37.22 | SB1-Work | Hmm. They offer IRC support |
| 20:37.26 | SB1-Work | with an empty IRC channel |
| 20:37.55 | rsimpkins | Be sure to flood it then. :) |
| 20:38.12 | SB1-Work | Indeed |
| 20:38.19 | SB1-Work | Packets going nowhere is the way to go |
| 20:39.14 | SB1-Work | I think I just got it though |
| 20:40.03 | SB1-Work | Yup, I got it |
| 20:40.05 | SB1-Work | I'm happy now |
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| 21:11.21 | [phoenyx] | maquis: "This site has exceeded bandwidth, try again later"?! |
| 21:18.23 | maquis | [phoenyx]: not what i got... too bad... looks like i pushed them over the limit :) |
| 21:20.13 | levi | maquis: Did you sell that book back? |
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| 21:28.33 | evan__ | hi |
| 21:32.51 | maquis | levi: the AI book? |
| 21:32.54 | maquis | yup |
| 21:33.08 | levi | Oh well. |
| 21:33.20 | levi | I need the same book for my AI class. |
| 21:33.26 | maquis | levi: ah |
| 21:33.46 | levi | I offered to buy it from you last night, but you must not have seen it. |
| 21:34.06 | maquis | levi: no... didn't see it |
| 21:34.11 | maquis | hmm |
| 21:34.37 | maquis | /lib/logrotate.status got destroyed in some filesystem issues... |
| 21:34.46 | maquis | anyone know what it's supposed to look like? |
| 21:35.15 | maquis | (/var/lib/logrotate, i mean) |
| 21:35.31 | maquis | my bsd box doesn't have the file at all |
| 21:39.07 | maquis | i found something saying i can create it by running logrotate -f, but i don't seem to have logrotate installed |
| 21:39.10 | maquis | go figure |
| 21:41.49 | EpP | i think im going to install ubuntu on my Desktop pc... because im getting my new laptop |
| 21:42.20 | Tene | ~levi EpP |
| 21:42.27 | ibot | ACTION gives EpP a hovercraft and then fills it with eels! |
| 21:42.52 | EpP | ? |
| 21:44.28 | spr | maquis, you sold the AI book? |
| 21:46.49 | Jayce^ | http://www.funnyville.com/fv/pictures/suntan.shtml |
| 21:48.51 | levi | Dig that computer programmer tan. |
| 21:48.51 | [phoenyx] | lol |
| 21:50.16 | [phoenyx] | I've always considered the sun to be a predator |
| 21:50.34 | [phoenyx] | Always tries to burn me when I'm outside |
| 21:51.08 | atoponce | hehe. the funny thing is, i have that exact tan... or lack thereof |
| 21:54.03 | EpP | you should be proud ; |
| 21:54.05 | EpP | ) |
| 21:55.18 | atoponce | i am! |
| 21:55.19 | atoponce | :) |
| 21:55.56 | atoponce | actually, i think that tan isn't acurate. the face would be dark, and everything else light |
| 21:56.40 | atoponce | of course, i guess it would then be called a 'monitor tan' and not a 'sun tan' |
| 21:57.37 | EpP | lol |
| 22:02.26 | atoponce | ~lart findlay |
| 22:02.39 | EpP | findlay, use your imagination. |
| 22:03.19 | findlay | you need UV IIRC, which a screen of neither phosphorescning material nor LCD will provide |
| 22:03.51 | findlay | phosphorescing RGB, of course |
| 22:04.29 | findlay | LCD are backlit with mecury lamps |
| 22:04.41 | findlay | CRT with an electron gun |
| 22:05.32 | atoponce | findlay with helium? ;) |
| 22:06.28 | findlay | LCDs probably act as optical filters |
| 22:07.08 | EpP | atoponce: findlay doesnt get the joke. |
| 22:07.13 | findlay | somehow, but the point is that emission from computer displays is very target to the visible band |
| 22:07.27 | findlay | s/target/targeted |
| 22:07.36 | atoponce | EpP: he listens to classical music |
| 22:07.50 | findlay | I am the antethisis of joke getting |
| 22:08.30 | EpP | atoponce: figures |
| 22:09.32 | atoponce | EpP: however, he does play the organ exceptionally well |
| 22:09.36 | Tene | Yeah, it wasn't a very good joke |
| 22:10.02 | atoponce | ~lart Tene |
| 22:10.04 | findlay | I prefer to refer to it as art music, as in music that is a high art |
| 22:10.12 | Tene | ~epp atoponce |
| 22:10.25 | ibot | ACTION logs into atoponce via ssh and connects to her screen session. |
| 22:10.32 | findlay | haha |
| 22:10.40 | Tene | ~nick125 atoponce |
| 22:10.41 | ibot | ACTION puts atoponce on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes atoponce use Gentoo on there. |
| 22:10.53 | atoponce | "her" screen session? |
| 22:11.00 | findlay | ~tene Tene |
| 22:11.08 | Tene | ibot: gender |
| 22:11.09 | ibot | I'm pregnant |
| 22:11.34 | atoponce | ~ibot Tene |
| 22:11.35 | ibot | rumour has it, tene is Tenebram, or the king of pirate, or my god, or chocolate frosted sugar bombs, or a liar, or more winningish than goozbach |
| 22:11.41 | Tene | ibot: ibot atoponce |
| 22:11.43 | ibot | ACTION does... erm... I dunno... some bot stuff or something to atoponce. |
| 22:11.49 | beandog | heh |
| 22:11.58 | Tene | ~levi beandog |
| 22:11.59 | ibot | ACTION gives beandog a hovercraft and then fills it with eels! |
| 22:12.44 | beandog | Who put freaking eels on this freeking hovercraft? |
| 22:12.46 | findlay | ~inp Tene |
| 22:12.56 | atoponce | s/rame/ram/ |
| 22:13.01 | findlay | I thought they were 'shreiking' |
| 22:13.24 | beandog | Ive run Gentoo on less than that. |
| 22:13.57 | beandog | run == managed to boot into a kernel |
| 22:14.52 | atoponce | bleh. give me flux, and i bet i could get it "running"... kinda |
| 22:16.07 | findlay | I coulr run curl on it |
| 22:16.21 | findlay | s/however I spelled that/could/ |
| 22:18.55 | findlay | because curl is flow perpendicular to the flux, of course |
| 22:19.19 | beandog | heh |
| 22:19.33 | beandog | My dream is to find a 286 and put Gentoo on there. |
| 22:19.41 | beandog | well, that and get married. |
| 22:20.45 | findlay | beandog: how about an SMP system between an HP48g+ and an Apple][? |
| 22:20.52 | beandog | lol |
| 22:21.22 | findlay | you could partition the ample hardware resources to host your website, mailserver, bzflag server, etc. |
| 22:21.30 | findlay | with xen |
| 22:21.37 | beandog | ooh, bzflag server. |
| 22:21.51 | beandog | I have a great map, too |
| 22:21.56 | atoponce | i'm telling ya! the keyboards are on strike |
| 22:22.09 | findlay | ~strike keyboards |
| 22:22.32 | *** part/#utah [phoenyx] (n=tthorley@64.147.152.13) |
| 22:22.47 | atoponce | incorrect grammar, bad spelling, funny characters- *all* because the keyboard won't cooperate, not because the user is incapable of sending nuerons from the brain to the fingers |
| 22:22.47 | atoponce | findlay: with 1.21 jigawatts? |
| 22:22.58 | *** join/#utah atoponce (i=aaron@tor/regular/atoponce) |
| 22:23.10 | findlay | pretty much |
| 22:23.27 | atoponce | stupid tor |
| 22:23.40 | beandog | atoponce: I just blame it all on my proxy. |
| 22:23.48 | beandog | its the perfect scapegoat! |
| 22:23.51 | atoponce | latency increases betwenn tor nodes, and i lose my connection |
| 22:24.16 | atoponce | all your proxy are belong to us? |
| 22:26.27 | goozbach | woot new server |
| 22:28.07 | findlay | apple ][ SMP system? |
| 22:28.38 | findlay | all those kilobytes of RAM must be an ocean of memory |
| 22:29.42 | goozbach | findlay: even better 486/66 DX |
| 22:29.47 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@71-219-30-128.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 22:30.38 | findlay | sweet. 66 screaming DX MHz |
| 22:33.35 | beandog | Dont forget to hit the 'turbo' button on the case. |
| 22:34.00 | EpP | beandog: didnt that give it an extra 100mhz of speed? |
| 22:34.10 | beandog | Something like that |
| 22:34.28 | EpP | i remember that on my childhood DOS computer |
| 22:34.35 | beandog | man, me too. |
| 22:34.36 | beandog | Good times. |
| 22:34.42 | EpP | seriously |
| 22:34.46 | findlay | EpP: no way 100MHz from the Turbo button?! |
| 22:35.00 | EpP | findlay: yeah really gave it a boost back in those days |
| 22:35.36 | findlay | not so much as 100 MHz, maybe double the clock speed, but I never saw any boost more radical than taht |
| 22:35.41 | beandog | I wish I kept my 286 .. that thing was a rock. |
| 22:35.55 | beandog | Yah, I think mine made it go up maybe 15 or 30 mhz |
| 22:36.36 | findlay | our first 80386 had an LED double digit display that told the clock speed and there was a satisfying jump from 28 to 33 when turbo was engaged |
| 22:36.57 | beandog | We used to have a 386 laptop ... that was insane. |
| 22:37.01 | findlay | wow |
| 22:37.05 | beandog | I remember playing Heros Quest 2 on it. |
| 22:37.37 | beandog | I also remember trying to free up space and guessing which files were really critical in c:\DOS |
| 22:37.45 | findlay | it was a way big deal when my dad upgraded from 4 to 8 MB |
| 22:38.14 | beandog | heh, yah ours had 4 megs of ram I think. |
| 22:38.21 | beandog | 286 33/mhz |
| 22:38.25 | beandog | 20 meg hdd |
| 22:38.26 | findlay | he usually stayed on top of the curve by trading piano tunings for (semi)sweet hardware |
| 22:38.34 | beandog | Barely enough for Win 3.1 and a game or two. |
| 22:39.24 | findlay | I really wish I had discovered GNU or BSD back then |
| 22:39.24 | beandog | I remember when 2x CD drives first came out |
| 22:39.24 | findlay | that would have rocked |
| 22:39.44 | beandog | We never had VGA .. that sucked. Just EGA. |
| 22:39.46 | findlay | heh, they called them dual, quad, hex speed |
| 22:40.06 | findlay | CDs are so 80s |
| 22:40.12 | beandog | seriously |
| 22:40.19 | findlay | and CDRs are so 90s |
| 22:40.31 | beandog | But back then it was a massive amount of data compared to our harddrives |
| 22:40.42 | findlay | yeah |
| 22:40.46 | beandog | Never had a CD drive though |
| 22:40.51 | beandog | I remember installing OS/2 on floppies |
| 22:40.55 | findlay | TiB harddrives are just coming out now |
| 22:40.55 | beandog | I wish I still had that, dangit. |
| 22:41.28 | beandog | The thing I miss the most are the BBS'es |
| 22:41.45 | beandog | those were great. |
| 22:41.52 | findlay | and only in the labratory are they working on equivalent optical media with short wavelength UV lasers |
| 22:42.06 | findlay | s/br/bor/ |
| 22:47.18 | findlay | I was stuck on windows and windows games back then, didn't know any better |
| 22:51.01 | beandog | I often lament I was stuck on windows for so many years. |
| 22:51.04 | beandog | what a wasted youth. |
| 22:51.50 | beandog | This doesnt inspire confidence: http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/eBay-AOL/index.html |
| 22:51.56 | beandog | AOL & eBay Working together to keep the Internet safer |
| 23:01.16 | EpP | im doing it!!!! i installing ubuntu on my mainpc |
| 23:04.40 | beandog | yay! |
| 23:04.43 | beandog | whats ubuntu? |
| 23:06.47 | atoponce | ubuntu > gentoo |
| 23:14.51 | beandog | Now atoponce, have you ever even used it? ;) |
| 23:43.36 | atoponce | of course not! why eat rotten fruit? :) |
| 23:43.45 | *** join/#utah atoponce (i=aaron@tor/regular/atoponce) |
