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| 00:35.30 | goozbach | bahhh |
| 00:35.57 | EpP-PocketPC | bahhh what? |
| 00:36.03 | Tene | He's a goat. |
| 00:36.21 | EpP-PocketPC | believeable |
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| 00:37.56 | goozbach | yes tehy do |
| 00:38.17 | EpP-PocketPC | im riffraff? |
| 00:54.24 | elg | -lart goozbach |
| 00:54.37 | elg | brac, hi |
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| 00:55.02 | elg | -lart goozbach |
| 00:59.51 | elg | drat. they don't have an nxclient for linux ppc |
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| 01:06.10 | EpP-PocketPC | hmm |
| 01:08.23 | EpP | yay |
| 01:18.35 | EpP-PocketPC | anything going on tonight? |
| 01:18.51 | Tene | .y. mi fonta'a loi ninmu |
| 01:21.22 | EpP-PocketPC | english? |
| 01:37.30 | emcnabb | another Evan joins #utah? |
| 01:38.01 | elg | inf ull force it seems |
| 01:38.04 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 01:39.09 | EpP-PocketPC | yep, thats me |
| 01:42.26 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 01:44.00 | elg | -roulette |
| 01:44.00 | brac | elg: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 01:44.45 | elg | -roulette emcnabb |
| 01:44.46 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help roulette' |
| 01:44.52 | elg | ~shoot emcnabb |
| 01:44.54 | ibot | ACTION shoots emcnabb in the ear with a cork gun! |
| 01:55.22 | EpP | ~shoot emcnabb |
| 01:55.24 | ibot | ACTION shoots emcnabb in the eye with a spitwad! |
| 01:55.27 | EpP | haha |
| 01:56.29 | EpP | ~shoot emcnabb |
| 01:56.31 | ibot | ACTION shoots emcnabb in the foot with a cork gun! |
| 01:56.35 | EpP | haha |
| 01:56.42 | EpP | funny funny |
| 02:07.58 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap EpP |
| 02:07.59 | ibot | ACTION beats EpP upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:08.15 | elg | the problem with laptops is they sit on your lap |
| 02:08.30 | EpP | elg, unless u put them on a desk. |
| 02:08.35 | elg | which makes it a pain to get up and down, because you have to put it somewhere where it won't fall and break, etc., and where the cord reaches |
| 02:08.51 | elg | EpP: then the problem with laptops is that you have to sit at a desk. :-) |
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| 02:43.24 | levi_home | elg: True convenience is so difficult to attain. |
| 02:43.48 | elg | it's a quest I will pursue nonetheless ;-) |
| 02:44.11 | levi_home | My universal machine seems to be a bit on the slow side. |
| 02:53.33 | elg | inline assembly in lisp! |
| 02:54.52 | levi_home | Could be done, no doubt, but I don't feel like learning ppc asm right now. :) |
| 02:55.36 | levi_home | There are some functions I could inline, etc. first. |
| 02:57.35 | levi_home | Ahh, the culprit is gethash. |
| 03:01.57 | elg | I loath QTDIR |
| 03:02.01 | elg | loathe even |
| 03:02.08 | levi_home | What's QTDIR |
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| 03:11.02 | elg | a stupid env var you sometimes have to set to build Qt apps |
| 03:11.20 | elg | but in this case I needed to run qmake-qt4 instead of just qmake so I didn't have to mess with QTDIR after all |
| 03:11.24 | elg | phew |
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| 03:50.43 | levi_home | What are you doing with QT? |
| 03:51.00 | elg | trying to get this nx client working |
| 03:51.04 | elg | someone's SoC project |
| 03:51.13 | elg | got it working. hooray for him |
| 03:51.27 | elg | otherwise no way for me to get linux ppc to be an nx client |
| 03:52.26 | levi_home | Finished your own SoC project, so now you're trying to finish up everyone else's? ;) |
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| 03:54.19 | elg | nah, just use :) but I'm a beta tester now |
| 03:54.26 | elg | so I guess I'm helping out |
| 03:54.39 | elg | I have basically finished what I'm going to finish of my project, btw |
| 03:55.10 | elg | so that's a nice feeling |
| 04:22.16 | levi_home | Nice. |
| 04:22.25 | levi_home | Woo, my UM is now running faster. |
| 04:22.31 | levi_home | I replaced the hash-table with an array. |
| 04:22.50 | levi_home | The hash table was a wrongheaded idea in the first place. |
| 04:27.08 | levi_home | Now let's see if this program will run in a reasonable amount of time. |
| 04:36.27 | findlay | the UN runs? |
| 04:36.48 | levi_home | M, not N |
| 04:36.55 | findlay | whatever |
| 04:36.58 | levi_home | The Universal Machine from the ICFP contest |
| 04:37.00 | findlay | close enough |
| 04:37.11 | findlay | ooh, sounds exciting |
| 04:41.43 | levi_home | I ran the UM on the codex.umz file that the contest supplies, and it dumped out another program. |
| 04:42.01 | levi_home | I'm running that program now, but it's not doing anything besides spinning the cpu, as far as I can tell. |
| 04:48.33 | levi_home | Heh, look at who CNN thinks doesn't matter anymore: http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/21/technology/10dontmatter.biz2/index.htm |
| 04:48.35 | brac | [Business 2.0: 10 people who don't matter - Jun. 22, 2006] |
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| 04:51.34 | levi_home | CNN seems pretty optimistic about digital movie downloads happening soon. |
| 04:51.54 | levi_home | I might share that optimism if I could get a faster than 256k DSL connection. |
| 05:06.15 | elg | of the following collective soul albums, which is the best? blender, collective soul, dosage, hints allegations things left unsaid, youth |
| 05:06.39 | findlay | what's that ultra optimizer compiler/profler called for clisp? Hitler? |
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| 05:14.27 | levi_home | findlay: Stalin, for Scheme. |
| 05:15.01 | levi_home | elg: I have no idea. I have dosage, myself, but only because secondspin.com sent me that and a Pearl Jam CD along with the cds I really did order. |
| 05:15.54 | EpP-PocketPC | in your guys opinion, what brand of laptop is best? |
| 05:17.06 | levi_home | I like Apple laptops. Thinkpads are good, too. |
| 05:18.32 | EpP-PocketPC | i want a macbook, but the wireless is finicky in linux |
| 05:19.11 | EpP-PocketPC | and i want something with an nvidia chipset |
| 05:20.43 | EpP-PocketPC | why are you so eagernfor it? |
| 05:22.22 | atoponce | have you seen it? a 100% fully compatible BeOS system that is open source |
| 05:22.46 | atoponce | BeOS was nice. very nice. |
| 05:23.00 | EpP-PocketPC | i knew it was fast. |
| 05:23.41 | EpP-PocketPC | but the ubuntu community is huge. its the best choice for compatability. |
| 05:23.47 | atoponce | fast and multimedia intensive |
| 05:24.20 | atoponce | http://www.flickr.com/photos/johndrinkwater/tags/haikuos/ « screenshots |
| 05:24.40 | EpP-PocketPC | its very hard to search for a laptop on my pocket pc... |
| 05:25.18 | EpP-PocketPC | im switching to a desktop. |
| 05:25.31 | QBFreak | arg, this DVD plays in black and white on the PC, but is fine on the DVD player |
| 05:26.03 | EpP-PocketPC | its probly ur........ PC |
| 05:26.20 | QBFreak | and here I thought it was the DVD player |
| 05:26.38 | EpP-PocketPC | so lenovo is a good choice? |
| 05:27.13 | levi_home | In the past, I've heard good things about Thinkpads. |
| 05:27.14 | atoponce | lenovo is supposed to be the most linux friendly laptop around... |
| 05:27.49 | EpP-PocketPC | really... |
| 05:27.51 | EpP-PocketPC | cool |
| 05:27.59 | atoponce | that's what i've heard |
| 05:28.16 | EpP-PocketPC | thinkpad or 3000 family |
| 05:28.20 | QBFreak | funny thing is, if I take a frame capture, it comes out in color |
| 05:28.28 | EpP-PocketPC | lol |
| 05:28.40 | atoponce | EpP-PocketPC: not sure |
| 05:29.15 | QBFreak | what little information I could find suggested the disc was in PAL format instead of NTSC, but I can't find any settings in PowerDVD to change that |
| 05:29.18 | atoponce | probably the thinkpads |
| 05:29.39 | EpP-PocketPC | sooo much $$$$ |
| 05:30.13 | atoponce | z,r and t series all start under $1000 |
| 05:30.44 | atoponce | if windows wasn't preloaded, that would help in the price |
| 05:30.47 | EpP-PocketPC | i looked... then it shows them at 1700 |
| 05:31.11 | levi_home | The status page of Haiku OS's website reminds me of similar status pages for projects such as Berlin and GNUStep. |
| 05:31.35 | EpP-PocketPC | plus i dont want the intel GMA 900. i want nvidia |
| 05:32.27 | levi_home | Why did you bother asking what the best laptop was if you already have pretty specific requirements? |
| 05:32.29 | atoponce | levi_home: they have been taking their time developing the os |
| 05:33.07 | levi_home | atoponce: The last 20% takes 80% of the time, or something. I wouldn't expect a stable release anytime soon. |
| 05:33.07 | EpP-PocketPC | pretty much i want a dualcore nvidia... thats it |
| 05:33.29 | levi_home | EpP-PocketPC: So, who makes a dualcore nvidia laptop? |
| 05:33.49 | nick125_lappy | EpP-PocketPC: I've got a dv5178us and it has a core duo w/ nvidia on it, but, they don't make it anymore, but, you can get a similar config |
| 05:34.02 | EpP-PocketPC | all the companys |
| 05:34.07 | atoponce | the t60 starts at 1179, and if you downgrade to windows home that takes off $70 |
| 05:34.23 | EpP-PocketPC | nick125_lappy, what brand? |
| 05:34.26 | atoponce | i'd end up putting ubuntu on it anyway |
| 05:34.29 | nick125_lappy | HP |
| 05:34.35 | EpP-PocketPC | sweet |
| 05:34.38 | EpP-PocketPC | thx |
| 05:34.57 | EpP-PocketPC | i like the lenovo fingerprint reader though |
| 05:35.02 | atoponce | levi_home: yeah. also, with no investors backing the project, i can imagine that it will take a while |
| 05:35.04 | nick125_lappy | I just did a dual core w/ nvidia config like mine on the HP website, it would be like $1209 |
| 05:35.32 | EpP-PocketPC | wow.. i could get a macbook for that |
| 05:35.58 | nick125_lappy | t2400 (IIRC), 100gb hd, nvidia 7400, 1gb ram |
| 05:36.34 | EpP-PocketPC | im liking that setup. |
| 05:36.40 | atoponce | i'd have to have the wuxga screen though |
| 05:36.54 | EpP-PocketPC | t2400? |
| 05:37.10 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 05:37.16 | nick125_lappy | core duo t2400 |
| 05:37.26 | EpP-PocketPC | im likin it |
| 05:37.28 | atoponce | 1920x1200 resolution |
| 05:37.46 | EpP-PocketPC | the dv5000 hp looks good |
| 05:38.54 | EpP-PocketPC | do i want the brightview screen? |
| 05:39.04 | EpP-PocketPC | its free |
| 05:40.40 | levi_home | Is that the glossy treatment instead of the matte glare-resistant one? |
| 05:40.48 | EpP-PocketPC | ya |
| 05:40.55 | EpP-PocketPC | do i want it? |
| 05:41.10 | EpP-PocketPC | or does it just causr glare |
| 05:42.19 | levi_home | They're supposed to improve color saturation or something, so it's a tradeoff. |
| 05:42.27 | EpP-PocketPC | i can get a dv5000t, t2400, 15.4, nvidia 7400, 1 gig, 60 hd, dvd burner |
| 05:42.38 | EpP-PocketPC | for...1000 |
| 05:42.40 | EpP-PocketPC | t |
| 05:42.51 | EpP-PocketPC | that reasonable? |
| 05:44.21 | EpP-PocketPC | should i just get the solo? |
| 05:46.33 | EpP-PocketPC | think an nvidia chipset is really worth it? |
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| 05:49.29 | EpP | k im typing on this now... my pocket pc is too tedious |
| 05:51.43 | EpP | atheros or intel wirless? |
| 05:52.08 | levi_home | Why do you want the nvidia chipset? |
| 05:52.17 | EpP | better graphics... |
| 05:52.40 | EpP | Ubuntu supports nvidia better that intel right? |
| 05:59.24 | nick125_lappy | well, the intel drivers are open source for video |
| 05:59.34 | EpP | so its still way nice? |
| 05:59.47 | nick125_lappy | but, nvidia is better video wise (as in, performance, etc) |
| 05:59.52 | EpP | yeah. |
| 06:00.07 | EpP | i think i found my laptop... |
| 06:00.16 | EpP | its a turion x2 though.. |
| 06:02.18 | EpP | is it worth $200 more for the dual core? |
| 06:02.31 | levi_home | Probably. |
| 06:02.36 | EpP | ok |
| 06:04.02 | EpP | i get a built in webcam too |
| 06:04.06 | levi_home | Considering that you generally can't upgrade a laptop cpu, it's worth spending a little more if it'll make the laptop's useful life longer. |
| 06:04.13 | EpP | true |
| 06:04.33 | EpP | would i want a core duo more than a turion x2? |
| 06:05.28 | levi_home | Look at some benchmarks. I thought the core duos were faster, but I haven't really been paying that much attention. |
| 06:05.35 | EpP | Yeah |
| 06:06.28 | EpP | but if i get the turion i get built in webcam |
| 06:09.41 | EpP | check out the HP dc6000z series... tell me what u think |
| 06:10.44 | levi_home | How often would you use a built-in webcam? |
| 06:10.59 | EpP | alot... |
| 06:11.16 | EpP | its only 50 bucks |
| 06:12.33 | EpP | so i should go for the 1.8 for $50 more? |
| 06:13.29 | levi_home | You need to make your own decisions based on how you expect to use your laptop. |
| 06:13.48 | EpP | I want to use it for games... 3d modeling... |
| 06:13.54 | EpP | dvd ripping... |
| 06:13.58 | EpP | music |
| 06:13.59 | EpP | i dunno |
| 06:18.20 | EpP | how do i know if im getting intel wirless? |
| 06:20.09 | EpP | HP doesnt say if it has intel wireles |
| 06:32.18 | nick125_lappy | the dv5000 series has a ipw3945 |
| 06:32.24 | nick125_lappy | its in the configuration page |
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| 13:10.53 | goozbach | ~rlart |
| 13:19.37 | redbeard1 | wow. i didn't realize i hadn't logged off this weekend. |
| 13:24.30 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 13:24.33 | goozbach | don't |
| 13:24.42 | goozbach | I've not logged out in monts |
| 13:24.44 | goozbach | months |
| 13:24.55 | goozbach | except for changing hosts yesterday |
| 13:25.39 | redbeard1 | you use screen tho, don't you? |
| 13:27.06 | redbeard1 | i'm using gaim... i have to log out on occassion |
| 13:30.06 | emcnabb | ~lart goozbach |
| 13:38.32 | Jayce^ | he uses gaim in windows... he has to log out quite frequently |
| 13:38.41 | redbeard1 | hey now |
| 13:38.45 | redbeard1 | i use gaim in linux too |
| 13:42.53 | ^Migs^ | is there a way to make GAIM flash or popup a notification when someone sends you an IM? |
| 13:43.34 | redbeard1 | ^Migs^: both my windows and my linux versions flash in the taskbar automatically |
| 13:44.09 | ^Migs^ | well wtf |
| 13:44.54 | redbeard1 | but it's harder to keep track of in linux, because it only flashes on one desktop |
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| 14:10.41 | redbeard1 | ~lart elg |
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| 15:11.16 | redbeard1 | busy room this morning |
| 15:13.31 | ^Migs^ | yeah, everyone calm down |
| 15:15.53 | goozbach | drive by fozzmooing |
| 15:17.28 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
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| 15:39.42 | levi | Yo. |
| 15:39.57 | redbeard1 | yo ho ho |
| 15:40.04 | levi | Arrrrr. |
| 15:40.09 | redbeard1 | and a bottle of tums |
| 15:40.23 | jsmith | And a bottle of ... uh... sprite? |
| 15:40.43 | redbeard1 | tums. definitely tums. |
| 15:43.19 | redbeard1 | you know, isn't international talk like a pirate day coming up next month? |
| 15:43.41 | redbeard1 | http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ |
| 15:43.43 | brac | [Talk Like A Pirate Day - September 19] |
| 15:44.11 | levi | Yow, my birthday is that month, too. |
| 15:44.28 | redbeard1 | happy birthday man |
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| 15:44.53 | levi | It's gonna be one of the big ones. |
| 15:44.54 | redbeard1 | You've read about it in Dave Barry's blog. Maybe you caught one of our radio or TV interviews. Or maybe you just stumbled on to our site while googling around for sites your mother probably wouldn't approve of. |
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| 16:32.03 | levi | Hmm, Herb Sutter has another concurrency article. |
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| 16:57.32 | findlay | almost every day now I get a spam in my gmail inbox and I really hate it because I think someone has lovingly taken the time to write me a personal letter and it just turns out to be a pile of garbage |
| 16:58.04 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, wow, wireshark is really amazing |
| 16:58.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It's parsing and displaying a 1GB capture file with relative ease |
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| 17:00.38 | EpP | findlay, isnt that a bummer... |
| 17:04.38 | findlay | indeed. The story is rife with opportunities for satire |
| 17:10.33 | ScytheBlade1 | nooooooooo |
| 17:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 5214/tcp open unknown |
| 17:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 41829/tcp open unknown |
| 17:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 45100/tcp open unknown |
| 17:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I sense trojans :( |
| 17:12.45 | EpP | I got my pocket pc supercharged! |
| 17:18.02 | Supaplex | it runs on jigawatz now? |
| 17:20.53 | EpP | oh yeah |
| 17:21.33 | EpP | It streams all my music off my windows comp... tonz of games. ahhh its satisfying. |
| 17:21.46 | EpP | oh and i can connect to IRC! |
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| 17:22.18 | EpP | see? |
| 17:22.28 | EpP-PocketPC | yes... i see |
| 17:22.43 | Tene | How... "productive" |
| 17:23.02 | EpP | and i can write python on it |
| 17:23.37 | levi | I used to have tons of stuff like that on my portable computers (Zaurus and Palm) but they were far harder to use than a desktop or laptop, so I never used them. |
| 17:25.07 | redbeard1 | can you imagine trying to do irc with palm graffiti? i'd feel like i was in a bad harry potter movie |
| 17:25.12 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 17:25.18 | nick125_lappy | that would suck horribly |
| 17:25.26 | goozbach | ohh irc on T9 |
| 17:25.30 | goozbach | *shudder* |
| 17:25.47 | goozbach | IRC requrires a full keyboard in my book |
| 17:25.59 | nick125_lappy | hhhahhaaha |
| 17:26.37 | redbeard1 | can you imagine harry potter trying to call tech support on that? |
| 17:26.46 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 17:26.58 | redbeard1 | "sir, which version of the diary do you have?" |
| 17:27.06 | redbeard1 | "uh. second printing?" |
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| 17:31.06 | findlay | in spite of levi my system is terribly boring when it runs properly |
| 17:31.28 | EpP | redbeard1, y u on lortab? |
| 17:31.37 | redbeard1 | EpP: not anymore |
| 17:31.46 | EpP | y were u? |
| 17:31.51 | Jayce^ | EpP, addict |
| 17:32.04 | EpP | im on it... i got my tonsils out |
| 17:32.07 | findlay | shouldn't it be lor<tab> |
| 17:32.12 | findlay | ? |
| 17:32.19 | redbeard1 | i had this lovely thing called a bone graft |
| 17:32.24 | redbeard1 | it's the most amazing thing ever |
| 17:32.27 | findlay | lor' ' |
| 17:32.34 | EpP | ow.. |
| 17:32.48 | EpP | i hope u were really doped up... cuz that would suck |
| 17:33.23 | redbeard1 | yeah. i was conscious, but only just barely. enough that i couldn't keep my eyes open, but i never quite got to sleep |
| 17:33.38 | redbeard1 | it was fun to listen to the doctor... he sounded kind of far away |
| 17:34.04 | EpP | yeah... they said i was in outperspace wheni woke up |
| 17:34.24 | redbeard1 | every so often i would ask them questions, just to mess with them. "do you think i could microwave cheesecake instead of bake it?" stuff like that |
| 17:34.38 | EpP | haha |
| 17:34.42 | Tene | Heh. |
| 17:34.46 | EpP | a real jokester |
| 17:34.48 | Tene | What was the answer? |
| 17:34.54 | redbeard1 | they didn't seem to know |
| 17:35.02 | redbeard1 | or if they did, i don't remember much |
| 17:35.09 | Tene | Heh. |
| 17:35.18 | redbeard1 | i'd still like to know the answer |
| 17:35.28 | redbeard1 | maybe i'll try that tonight |
| 17:35.38 | Tene | What happens tonight? |
| 17:35.41 | redbeard1 | 10% power, for 20 minutes |
| 17:35.50 | findlay | electromagnetic coupling |
| 17:35.58 | redbeard1 | eww |
| 17:36.02 | findlay | at least I'm pretty sure that's what it's called |
| 17:36.50 | redbeard1 | i doubt i'll be in good enough condition to try it. not that that will stop me, mind you. |
| 17:37.07 | findlay | let's try that again |
| 17:37.39 | levi | I woke up during my first cornea transplant operation. |
| 17:37.53 | EpP | levi, holy shit. |
| 17:37.53 | levi | Fortunately, I was still pretty drugged. |
| 17:38.09 | EpP | levi, how did it feel? |
| 17:38.42 | levi | I was bored and wanted to fall back asleep. |
| 17:38.56 | EpP | levi, did it hurft? |
| 17:39.01 | levi | I could see blurs moving over my eye, and feel some tugs on it, but no pain. |
| 17:39.06 | findlay | microwaves are interesting because they only do coupling with water |
| 17:39.26 | Tene | So how does that work, anyway? like, how is the eye secured so that you don't move it? |
| 17:39.45 | findlay | they have huge grabber screws to hold it in place |
| 17:39.51 | Tene | Ahh. |
| 17:39.57 | findlay | yeah |
| 17:40.20 | redbeard1 | http://www.recipesource.com/desserts/cheesecakes/03/rec0392.html |
| 17:40.21 | brac | [RecipeSource: Microwave Cheesecake] |
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| 17:42.36 | levi | Tene: I'm not really sure, but I know it was definitely immobilized. |
| 17:43.08 | levi | Tene: I wasn't really in a position to ask, and was too drugged to care much. |
| 17:44.16 | Jayce^ | extension you never want to see when your bank changes web branch software... |
| 17:44.20 | Jayce^ | login.aspx |
| 17:44.29 | nick125_lappy | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkk |
| 17:44.57 | graphyx | What bank? |
| 17:44.59 | graphyx | Are you switching now? |
| 17:45.02 | Jayce^ | UCCU |
| 17:45.13 | graphyx | That is whatI was afraid of. |
| 17:45.15 | Jayce^ | just changed from some java based app to that |
| 17:45.17 | Jayce^ | this weekend |
| 17:45.26 | Jayce^ | and of course, the cert doesn't work.. |
| 17:45.30 | nick125_lappy | java isn't as bad as aspx... |
| 17:45.40 | Jayce^ | nick125, agreed |
| 17:45.56 | graphyx | it wasn't the language it was implemented in that was the problem. |
| 17:46.05 | graphyx | It was the very poor "Protocol". |
| 17:46.25 | findlay | aspx, isn't that a snake with an X on it? |
| 17:47.08 | nick125_lappy | aspx is asp.net IIRC |
| 17:47.24 | findlay | asp.net on IRC? |
| 17:48.42 | [phoenyx] | the 'x' means that it's super-cool |
| 17:49.45 | graphyx | I thought it was the tenth snake. |
| 17:49.51 | graphyx | and the next one would be aspxi |
| 17:50.13 | findlay | my financial institution still uses a wholesome java site on BSD |
| 17:52.27 | findlay | I guess they moved to Linux since I checked |
| 17:54.26 | EpP | should i install bsd? |
| 17:54.33 | EpP | or stick with ubuntu? |
| 17:55.05 | Tene | Windows. |
| 17:55.13 | macnewbold | FreeBSD rocks |
| 17:55.14 | Tene | WinME |
| 17:55.23 | macnewbold | ~lart WinME |
| 17:55.35 | Tene | ~findlay WinME |
| 17:55.36 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps WinME. |
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| 17:59.41 | nick125_lappy | FreeBSD still isn't nearly as ready for desktop as linux |
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| 18:00.44 | Jayce^ | oh it get's even better.. |
| 18:00.54 | Jayce^ | the site isn't working on firefox, safari, etc.. |
| 18:00.55 | Jayce^ | only ie :) |
| 18:00.58 | nick125_lappy | hahah |
| 18:01.05 | nick125_lappy | nice |
| 18:01.21 | Jayce^ | just talked to a CS rep... |
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| 18:10.21 | elg | -lart redbeard1 |
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| 19:14.38 | EpP | ^Migs^, i havent... |
| 19:14.57 | Tene | Jayce^: what did the CS rep say? |
| 19:15.10 | EpP | cs? |
| 19:15.34 | EpP | Caldera systems? |
| 19:25.20 | ^Migs^ | don't you ever forget it, EpP |
| 19:26.51 | EpP | ^Migs^, whoare you? |
| 19:27.01 | EpP | hp.com |
| 19:27.05 | ^Migs^ | the person whose awesomeness you're not forgetting |
| 19:27.06 | EpP | shit wrong keyborad... |
| 19:27.16 | ^Migs^ | and who tf are you? I've NEVER seen you here before. |
| 19:27.30 | EpP | yeah i know. Im Evaan and im 17 |
| 19:27.33 | EpP | Evan*\ |
| 19:27.37 | EpP | who are you? |
| 19:27.44 | ^Migs^ | that is none of your concern. |
| 19:27.49 | EpP | allright. |
| 19:27.50 | ^Migs^ | you can stay here for now, EpP |
| 19:27.57 | ^Migs^ | but don't do anything stupid, please |
| 19:28.04 | EpP | ^Migs^, like... |
| 19:28.14 | ^Migs^ | like be a noob |
| 19:28.28 | EpP | ah allright. |
| 19:28.46 | EpP | its kinda hard not to do |
| 19:29.02 | ^Migs^ | pretend the best you can then |
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| 19:30.03 | EpP | allright |
| 19:32.58 | ^Migs^ | wtf, I thought we were rid of you |
| 19:33.34 | EpP | me? |
| 19:33.38 | EpP | are u serious? |
| 19:33.48 | EpP | thanks. |
| 19:34.25 | ^Migs^ | just don't overstay your welcome |
| 19:38.27 | ^Migs^ | I didn't think he'd take me so seriously |
| 19:39.00 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 19:39.24 | atoponce | good job. see what you did? |
| 19:40.20 | *** mode/#utah [+o goozbach] by ChanServ |
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| 19:40.55 | atoponce | findlay: and how is the new kernel? |
| 19:40.59 | goozbach | dood, uncool |
| 19:41.00 | findlay | what are those scanners called that you just feed the page through? |
| 19:41.10 | goozbach | page feed scanners? |
| 19:41.14 | findlay | atoponce: it seems fine |
| 19:41.22 | nick125_lappy | ooo new kernel :P |
| 19:41.32 | nick125_lappy | what version? |
| 19:41.42 | findlay | I'm looking for some keyword so I can filter out all the irrelevent stuff in google |
| 19:42.03 | findlay | 2.6.18-rc4 oh yeah |
| 19:42.16 | findlay | any newer and I'd be running -mm |
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| 19:42.22 | atoponce | 2.6.15-26 |
| 19:42.25 | nick125_lappy | I'm only on 2.6.17 on here, and 2.6.16.26 on my server |
| 19:44.06 | ^Migs^ | I'm watching you, EpP |
| 19:44.08 | findlay | in the meantime I'm the coolest kid on the block because my kernel r0x0rz |
| 19:44.19 | nick125_lappy | I remeber when I used to run mm |
| 19:44.31 | atoponce | ~lart findlay for *thinkgin* he is cool |
| 19:44.53 | findlay | every minor number release the kernel gets 25% faster |
| 19:44.55 | atoponce | stupid keyboard |
| 19:45.02 | nick125_lappy | findlay: right.. |
| 19:45.13 | ^Migs^ | yeah, typos are the keyboard's fault |
| 19:45.18 | nick125_lappy | agreed |
| 19:45.23 | atoponce | hehe. if that was the case... |
| 19:45.35 | atoponce | ^Migs^: uh yeah. what else would it be? |
| 19:45.41 | findlay | and gcc has compiled so many kernels and knows exactly how to put the bits for optimal performance |
| 19:45.50 | nick125_lappy | findlay: lol |
| 19:45.55 | nick125_lappy | what GCC version? |
| 19:45.58 | nick125_lappy | 4.2.0 alpha? |
| 19:46.00 | ^Migs^ | I blame keyboard typos for all the bad reports I did in school |
| 19:46.07 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 19:46.13 | findlay | eventually linux will be so fast that you can't do anything with it |
| 19:46.21 | atoponce | findlay: either that or is just doesn't give a s*** |
| 19:46.35 | findlay | 4.1.1 |
| 19:46.41 | nick125_lappy | findlay: aww |
| 19:46.44 | nick125_lappy | you should run 4.2.0 |
| 19:47.04 | findlay | I may update when 4.2 comes out |
| 19:47.12 | ^Migs^ | OMG, I have so much to do, and only 1 hour to do it |
| 19:47.35 | *** kick/#utah [^Migs^!n=goozbach@brooks.netradius.com] by goozbach (don't be a jerk) |
| 19:47.43 | findlay | ^Migs^: just recompile your kernel and you'll have so much time because linux is teh fast |
| 19:47.47 | atoponce | again. the keyboard fails to deliver what i type |
| 19:47.48 | nick125_lappy | my server is on 3.4.6 though |
| 19:48.15 | findlay | atoponce: YOU NEED A NEW KEYBOARD |
| 19:48.22 | findlay | stupid caps lock |
| 19:48.41 | EpP | ^Migs^ is kinda mean. |
| 19:49.06 | nick125_lappy | EpP: only for you.. |
| 19:49.23 | goozbach | just so you know only the folks with @ in their names have any say as to what's appropiate or not |
| 19:49.24 | EpP | nick125_lappy, y? |
| 19:49.36 | goozbach | EpP: so where do you join us from |
| 19:49.37 | goozbach | ? |
| 19:49.44 | EpP | utah |
| 19:49.45 | findlay | ~apropos goozbach |
| 19:50.14 | goozbach | goozbach: nothing appropriate |
| 19:50.27 | findlay | now there's a paradox |
| 19:50.29 | EpP | goozbach, i went to some ubuntu meeting and all the guys were in here. Synic invited me to the meeting. |
| 19:50.44 | goozbach | coo |
| 19:50.47 | goozbach | well welcome |
| 19:50.53 | goozbach | don't mind the kiddies |
| 19:51.02 | EpP | allright, thx |
| 19:51.20 | goozbach | you might want to look into a more permanant solution to connecting however |
| 19:51.38 | goozbach | the in-out-in thing tends to tick peopple off |
| 19:52.04 | atoponce | findlay: i think i need a new keybard too. it's a dell. Z) |
| 19:52.10 | EpP | yeah, im going to setup this thing called screen or something |
| 19:52.15 | atoponce | s/Z)/:)/ |
| 19:52.56 | atoponce | /ignore part join <-- i think... |
| 19:53.24 | findlay | screen screens out all things ephemeral |
| 19:53.45 | findlay | atoponce: not all of them, just repeat performances |
| 19:54.00 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 19:54.20 | findlay | some heuristics and logic in a script would do the job |
| 19:54.40 | atoponce | true true |
| 19:55.37 | findlay | ~lart visioneer for not having sane drivers |
| 19:55.49 | findlay | ibot: now you're talking |
| 20:00.16 | goozbach | ~apropos findlay |
| 20:00.17 | ibot | findlay: nothing appropriate |
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| 20:00.21 | goozbach | cool |
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| 20:10.32 | EpP | how is a 17 year old kid gonna get his laptop now... and pay monthly payments without his parents help? |
| 20:11.48 | goozbach | get a job |
| 20:11.57 | goozbach | that's how |
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| 20:12.09 | evan__ | ok so this is irssi... |
| 20:12.26 | goozbach | irssi is what most of us CLI junkies use |
| 20:12.33 | atoponce | evan__: welcome to the world of the 1337 |
| 20:12.43 | goozbach | or not so much |
| 20:12.45 | goozbach | :) |
| 20:12.52 | goozbach | ibot irssi? |
| 20:12.53 | ibot | irssi is, like, a modular IRC client for UNIX. See http://irssi.org/ |
| 20:13.13 | goozbach | ibot: irssi is also the door to the 1337 |
| 20:13.14 | ibot | goozbach: okay |
| 20:13.15 | EpP | so i can run this on my laptop.. then ssh in from my pocket pc... |
| 20:13.21 | goozbach | sure |
| 20:13.28 | nick125_lappy | that's what I do sometimes |
| 20:13.37 | goozbach | I'd run irssi under screen on something other than a laptop |
| 20:13.42 | EpP | what program 4 the pocket pc? |
| 20:13.47 | atoponce | yeah. then you never have to disconnect and reconect (unless you do so with your laptop) |
| 20:13.48 | nick125_lappy | but, usually, my SSH connections are so laggy (over GPRS/EDGE) so I use upIRC for my phone |
| 20:13.48 | goozbach | somethig that's alwasy on |
| 20:13.54 | nick125_lappy | EpP: I think theres something like..ugh..let me find the name |
| 20:14.03 | atoponce | EpP: you need a terminal client with an ssh client |
| 20:14.09 | nick125_lappy | there was a thread on WHT |
| 20:14.16 | EpP | yeah. there is probly putty 4 ppc |
| 20:14.25 | nick125_lappy | theres putty |
| 20:14.46 | EpP | so i need to install an sshd and screen on my laptop? |
| 20:14.48 | nick125_lappy | theres another one |
| 20:14.51 | nick125_lappy | EpP: yes |
| 20:14.54 | EpP | ok ok |
| 20:15.07 | nick125_lappy | or, if you have a server or something, I suggest putting on there |
| 20:15.34 | goozbach | EpP: /msg me if you're interested in a leased virtual server |
| 20:15.36 | EpP | well... the computer that is wired is my familys main pc and its windows |
| 20:15.49 | mrpull | i've used pocketputty on WM5 and WM2003 with good success |
| 20:15.58 | nick125_lappy | pocketputty or mToken (pocketputty is free) |
| 20:16.05 | mrpull | mToken is nice |
| 20:16.17 | nick125_lappy | goozbach: what company do you work for? :p |
| 20:16.27 | goozbach | nick125_lappy: neverblock |
| 20:16.53 | nick125_lappy | nice, where do you have your equipment colocated (or, whatever you do) at? |
| 20:17.11 | goozbach | xmission |
| 20:17.12 | Tene | In a cabinet that I have the key to, I think. |
| 20:17.17 | Tene | Unless he's moved to his own. |
| 20:17.21 | goozbach | Tene: not yet |
| 20:17.30 | goozbach | I just bought the second server however |
| 20:17.39 | nick125_lappy | goozbach: how do you advertise? |
| 20:17.41 | goozbach | Tene: I'll tell your boss on you |
| 20:17.48 | goozbach | nick125_lappy: word of mouth |
| 20:17.50 | nick125_lappy | I can't even fill one server! :/ |
| 20:17.54 | Tene | Hehe. |
| 20:18.05 | Tene | s/mouth/irc/ |
| 20:18.08 | goozbach | heh |
| 20:18.10 | goozbach | true |
| 20:18.35 | nick125_lappy | what kind of equipment do you use? |
| 20:18.48 | goozbach | I've got a dell powerege 750 right now |
| 20:18.55 | goozbach | the new server is a 1950 |
| 20:18.58 | nick125_lappy | aah |
| 20:19.06 | nick125_lappy | we've got a sc1425 here |
| 20:19.59 | nick125_lappy | it works, and, its one of the few dell servers that use SATA |
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| 20:20.56 | nick125_lappy | ugh |
| 20:21.01 | nick125_lappy | oops |
| 20:24.00 | Tene | ~nick125 nick125_lappy |
| 20:24.01 | ibot | ACTION puts nick125_lappy on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes nick125_lappy use Gentoo on there. |
| 20:24.17 | nick125_lappy | :P |
| 20:24.23 | nick125_lappy | that hurts |
| 20:24.50 | Tene | hehe |
| 20:25.00 | nick125_lappy | mysql takes 13 hours on 64MB |
| 20:25.03 | nick125_lappy | imagine 32MB :x |
| 20:25.22 | atoponce | for what? |
| 20:25.31 | EpP | compile? |
| 20:25.31 | nick125_lappy | to compile |
| 20:25.36 | EpP | HAHA victory |
| 20:25.50 | atoponce | ouch. that's when binary distros just feel soooooo good. :) |
| 20:25.50 | nick125_lappy | you would never think 16MB would do alot.. |
| 20:25.50 | graphyx | I can't imagine that. |
| 20:25.55 | nick125_lappy | trust me, it does |
| 20:25.59 | EpP | imagine if it messes up halfway through O_o |
| 20:26.11 | nick125_lappy | EpP: I would kill the server if that happened |
| 20:26.20 | EpP | nick125_lappy, haha |
| 20:26.41 | nick125_lappy | I remember spending 45 minutes compiling firefox, and, while it was installing, the tmpfs I was using ran out of space |
| 20:26.45 | nick125_lappy | I was pissed |
| 20:27.18 | nick125_lappy | on low-RAM boxes, turning off -pipe really helps |
| 20:27.26 | nick125_lappy | mysql on 64MB used to take 18 hours! |
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| 20:27.46 | rsimpkins | yum install mysql-server thank you very much. ;) |
| 20:27.47 | nick125_lappy | sorry, 19 hours |
| 20:27.54 | nick125_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.54 | nick125_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.14 | nick125_lappy | rsimpkins: that usually works :D |
| 20:28.15 | goozbach | 19 hours to install one daemon? |
| 20:28.20 | goozbach | pfft! |
| 20:28.32 | goozbach | ricer... |
| 20:28.33 | nick125_lappy | goozbach: well, it was mysql server, client, and all the other crap it installs |
| 20:29.38 | rsimpkins | There are really good reasons the MySQL AB guys provide a binary distro. |
| 20:29.50 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 20:29.53 | rsimpkins | Do some performance benchmarking on your gentoo compiled one vs the binary one. |
| 20:29.57 | goozbach | 19 HOURS |
| 20:30.03 | goozbach | that's excessive |
| 20:30.17 | nick125_lappy | if I raised the RAM to 80MB, it would probably only take...4 hours |
| 20:30.20 | rsimpkins | goozbach: People who run gentoo seem to have PLENTY of time. |
| 20:30.32 | atoponce | rsimpkins: sudo aptitude install mysql-server here :) |
| 20:30.34 | goozbach | aparently |
| 20:30.51 | rsimpkins | atoponce: No doubt. I'm all about the binary distro. It's what makes being and admin cool. |
| 20:31.29 | rsimpkins | I can do a yum isntall (50 packages) and in maybe an hour if I am on a fast pipe my server is ready to go. |
| 20:31.36 | nick125_lappy | I don't know how/why this user went with gentoo, even though theres a huge warning on the site saying don't use gentoo with less then 80MB of ram |
| 20:31.42 | goozbach | hey ubuntu users: how does one see what their default firewall is doing and if they have sshd running? |
| 20:32.11 | rsimpkins | goozbach: What it is doing? |
| 20:32.16 | atoponce | goozbach: don't use a software firewall, so not sure... |
| 20:32.42 | goozbach | EpP was looking for some screen help |
| 20:32.44 | Tene | goozbach: /etc/init.d/sshd status, maybe |
| 20:32.58 | EpP | nah |
| 20:32.59 | rsimpkins | EpP: You need screen help? |
| 20:33.03 | EpP | rsimpkins, yes |
| 20:33.05 | goozbach | I think I've got the screen session running for him but don't know what's up with the firewall |
| 20:33.18 | EpP | i cant ssh into my laptop thats running ubuntu |
| 20:33.20 | levi | Gah. |
| 20:33.27 | Tene | goozbach: iptables -L |
| 20:33.35 | goozbach | Tene: of course :) |
| 20:33.39 | nick125_lappy | now, I need to find my cell phone case |
| 20:33.43 | nick125_lappy | and I can't find it |
| 20:33.45 | nick125_lappy | ugh |
| 20:33.45 | goozbach | I was looking for the ubuntu cool tool(tm) |
| 20:34.04 | Tene | goozbach: ubuntu-moose-iptables-show-ducks |
| 20:34.12 | goozbach | heh |
| 20:34.32 | goozbach | didn't somebody on the planet recently do a post about screen and irssi? |
| 20:34.41 | EpP | is sshd included in the ubuntu basic install? |
| 20:34.46 | goozbach | if not I'll do one when I get home. |
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| 20:34.49 | goozbach | EpP: should be |
| 20:34.50 | rsimpkins | I've been using screen/irssi for years. |
| 20:35.06 | EpP | rsimpkins, y would it connection refused/ |
| 20:35.26 | rsimpkins | EpP: It almost certainly is a firewall or SSH configuration issue. |
| 20:35.40 | EpP | where is the ssh config? |
| 20:36.05 | rsimpkins | EpP: Usually somewhere in /etc/ /etc/ssh/sshd_server is common. |
| 20:36.11 | EpP | its not a firewall because i dont think ubuntu has one on install. and im still in local nwtwork. |
| 20:36.28 | Tene | EpP: iptables -L |
| 20:36.39 | rsimpkins | EpP: Do an iptables -nL and see what you get. |
| 20:37.08 | EpP | evan@Evan-iBook:/etc/ssh$ sudo iptables -nL |
| 20:37.08 | EpP | Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) |
| 20:37.09 | EpP | target prot opt source destination |
| 20:37.09 | EpP | Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) |
| 20:37.09 | EpP | target prot opt source destination |
| 20:37.09 | EpP | Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) |
| 20:37.11 | EpP | target prot opt source destination |
| 20:37.40 | rsimpkins | EpP: Did you do these steps exactly as shown? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#SSH_Server |
| 20:37.50 | EpP | never seen it |
| 20:37.53 | EpP | thx |
| 20:39.10 | goozbach | alright! |
| 20:39.28 | goozbach | mandriva is the purple distro |
| 20:39.34 | Tene | purple? |
| 20:39.46 | goozbach | well mandrake was always the purple distro |
| 20:39.52 | Tene | purple? |
| 20:40.10 | goozbach | the old box sets you could buy were purple |
| 20:40.19 | graphyx | ~purple |
| 20:40.20 | ibot | well, purple is a color resulting from a mixture of the colors red and blue. Purple is purl's favorite color. |
| 20:41.09 | rsimpkins | One eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater? |
| 20:41.35 | graphyx | ibot, purple is the color of the old box set that you could buy for madriva linux. |
| 20:41.36 | ibot | ...but purple is already something else... |
| 20:41.52 | graphyx | ibot purple is also the color of the old box set that you could buy for madriva linux. |
| 20:41.53 | ibot | graphyx: okay |
| 20:42.03 | EpP | ibot, EpP is the coolest person ever. |
| 20:42.04 | ibot | okay, EpP |
| 20:42.04 | graphyx | ~purple |
| 20:42.06 | ibot | hmm... purple is a color resulting from a mixture of the colors red and blue. Purple is purl's favorite color. the color of the old box set that you could buy for madriva linux. |
| 20:42.10 | EpP | ~EpP |
| 20:42.11 | ibot | rumour has it, epp is the coolest person ever. |
| 20:42.15 | EpP | HA! |
| 20:42.32 | graphyx | ibot, EpP is also A self promoter. |
| 20:42.34 | ibot | graphyx: okay |
| 20:42.40 | graphyx | ~EpP |
| 20:42.41 | ibot | hmm... epp is the coolest person ever. A self promoter. |
| 20:42.47 | EpP | haha |
| 20:42.48 | EpP | thx |
| 20:42.49 | goozbach | ~goozbach |
| 20:42.50 | ibot | hmm... goozbach is a future que-ball. easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch |
| 20:42.57 | goozbach | ohh looky there |
| 20:43.01 | goozbach | ~tene |
| 20:43.02 | ibot | [tene] Tenebram, or the king of pirate, or my god, or chocolate frosted sugar bombs, or a liar, or more winningish than goozbach |
| 20:43.13 | goozbach | heh |
| 20:43.22 | graphyx | ~jayce^ |
| 20:43.24 | ibot | i heard jayce^ is the president (ha) of the Provo Linux Users Group (http://www.plug.org) or a Perl Monger or the punk going to OSCON or a few electrons short a charge. Um bom cara. wants to be hired by SCO, or an April Fool |
| 20:43.30 | Tene | I don't remember when that was set. |
| 20:43.41 | Tene | do you remember what that was about, goo? |
| 20:43.48 | EpP | ibot, graphyx is also very knowledgable |
| 20:43.50 | ibot | okay, EpP |
| 20:43.50 | graphyx | won't ibot tell you? |
| 20:44.13 | graphyx | ~spell knowledgable |
| 20:44.15 | EpP | lol |
| 20:44.24 | Tene | ibot: what was the situation and context when someone told you that I am more winningish than goozbach? |
| 20:44.27 | EpP | see, your smart |
| 20:44.34 | graphyx | ibot, graphyx is very knowledgeable. |
| 20:44.35 | ibot | ...but graphyx is already something else... |
| 20:45.03 | EpP | ~synic |
| 20:45.18 | graphyx | hey, how do you over come the "already something else" thingy? |
| 20:45.28 | goozbach | Tene: methinks it was that short time you were ahead of me in idlerpg |
| 20:45.35 | Tene | 'kay |
| 20:45.54 | goozbach | now I'm the most winninish |
| 20:46.00 | goozbach | of #utah anyhwo |
| 20:46.08 | goozbach | ~mandrake |
| 20:46.09 | ibot | [mandrake] the best linux distro or the worst linux distro, or a plant that screams when you rip it out of the ground and kills you for removing it, or that guy who used to work for VA that is also doing that voice synth stuff |
| 20:46.09 | graphyx | Ok. |
| 20:46.14 | graphyx | ~graphyx |
| 20:46.15 | ibot | i heard graphyx is very knowledgeable. |
| 20:46.19 | goozbach | ~mandriva |
| 20:46.21 | ibot | well, mandriva is mandrake + conectiva. See mandrake. |
| 20:46.24 | graphyx | EpP, fixed it. |
| 20:46.31 | goozbach | ~conectiva |
| 20:46.32 | ibot | conectiva is probably a BRAZILIAN Linux distro. You can know more about in http://www.conectiva.com.br/, or - And they have got an rpm enabled apt. |
| 20:46.40 | EpP | graphyx, thx |
| 20:46.47 | graphyx | no problem. |
| 20:46.57 | EpP | ~ubuntu |
| 20:46.58 | ibot | well, ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 20:47.14 | graphyx | ~gentoo |
| 20:47.15 | ibot | somebody said gentoo was different than ubuntu (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/) the one true distro |
| 20:47.37 | graphyx | ~gentoo is also A distro the is obsolete by the time it compiles. |
| 20:47.39 | ibot | graphyx: okay |
| 20:47.53 | EpP | I hear gentoo is fastest for slow machines. But you have to be smart enough to configure it |
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| 20:48.18 | graphyx | ibot, no gentoo is also A distro that is obsolete by the time it finishes compiling. |
| 20:48.19 | ibot | okay, graphyx |
| 20:48.24 | graphyx | ~gentoo |
| 20:48.25 | ibot | gentoo is, like, different than ubuntu (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/) the one true distro A distro the is obsolete by the time it compiles. A distro that is obsolete by the time it finishes compiling. |
| 20:49.21 | graphyx | hmm.. don't know how to purge that mistake. |
| 20:49.37 | graphyx | any other ibot pros want to resolve that one? |
| 20:50.15 | Tene | ibot: forget gentoo |
| 20:50.26 | Tene | ibot: no, gentoo is foo |
| 20:50.28 | ibot | okay, Tene |
| 20:50.31 | Tene | ibot: gentoo |
| 20:50.33 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, gentoo is foo |
| 20:50.36 | goozbach | probally enough bot tickling |
| 20:50.39 | fozzmoo | Yay! |
| 20:50.56 | EpP | ~graphyx |
| 20:50.57 | ibot | rumour has it, graphyx is very knowledgeable. a homosexual |
| 20:51.17 | EpP | purge that shit... |
| 20:51.24 | goozbach | ibot: factinfo graphix |
| 20:51.24 | ibot | goozbach: there's no such factoid as graphix |
| 20:51.31 | goozbach | ibot: factinfo graphyx |
| 20:51.31 | ibot | graphyx -- last modified 1m 38s ago by EpP!n=evan@c-67-182-211-240.hsd1.ut.comcast.net; it has been requested once, last by EpP, 34s ago. |
| 20:51.46 | macnewbold | ~EpP |
| 20:51.48 | ibot | i guess epp is the coolest person ever. A self promoter. |
| 20:51.51 | goozbach | ibot: forget graphyx |
| 20:52.02 | EpP | ibot: forget epp |
| 20:52.21 | macnewbold | ~EpP |
| 20:52.22 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, epp is the coolest person ever. A self promoter. a homosexual, according to ibot. |
| 20:52.25 | goozbach | ibot: no graphyx is yeah |
| 20:52.27 | ibot | okay, goozbach |
| 20:52.27 | macnewbold | hm |
| 20:52.29 | macnewbold | weird |
| 20:52.43 | goozbach | enought with the bot |
| 20:52.56 | goozbach | if you can't play nice we'll take a break |
| 20:53.06 | EpP | k can u purge me from it? |
| 20:53.17 | goozbach | ibot forget EpP |
| 20:54.45 | goozbach | ibot's time seems to be off |
| 20:55.10 | goozbach | ~onjoin #utah TimRiker master my time might be off. |
| 20:55.10 | ibot | goozbach: ok |
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| 20:56.23 | EpP | hey |
| 20:57.13 | PeregrineFalcon | goozbach, do you actually get any work done at work in between IRC messages? :) |
| 20:59.55 | emcnabb | ~lart PeregrineFalcon |
| 20:59.57 | emcnabb | get back to work |
| 21:02.00 | goozbach | PeregrineFalcon: yup |
| 21:02.08 | goozbach | I'm in the middle of a re-compile |
| 21:02.19 | goozbach | and shh I don't want them to know I'm IRCING |
| 21:02.21 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:09.44 | eppppizzle | goozbach, when i run screen it gives me some info... then i push enter and i tlooks like it quits... |
| 21:10.27 | atoponce | eppppizzle: yeah. that means you are in screen. :) |
| 21:10.30 | Tene | eppppizzle: that's a shell *in screen* |
| 21:10.36 | eppppizzle | oh.. ok. |
| 21:10.41 | eppppizzle | then i run irssi? |
| 21:10.46 | Tene | yeah |
| 21:10.48 | atoponce | yeah |
| 21:11.00 | Tene | did you run screen several times? |
| 21:11.06 | Tene | thinking that it didn't work? |
| 21:11.06 | eppppizzle | no y? |
| 21:11.15 | goozbach | type screen -list |
| 21:11.17 | eppppizzle | actually maybe.. should i kill them? |
| 21:11.25 | goozbach | it is possible to runn screen inside of screen |
| 21:11.27 | Tene | because that's something that someone might do if they thought it didn't work |
| 21:11.36 | eppppizzle | yeah there is like 4 of them, |
| 21:11.37 | eppppizzle | lol |
| 21:11.50 | atoponce | 'exit' out of them |
| 21:11.55 | eppppizzle | k i killed them all |
| 21:12.01 | eppppizzle | now here we go... |
| 21:12.04 | goozbach | eppppizzle: untill thiers just one |
| 21:12.26 | goozbach | 8 hours of work and what do I have to show? |
| 21:12.31 | atoponce | i've done that a couple times with ctrl+a ctrl+c, then screen -dr |
| 21:12.32 | atoponce | :) |
| 21:12.37 | goozbach | one page rendering with placeholder text |
| 21:12.42 | goozbach | WOOT! |
| 21:12.59 | goozbach | at this rate I'll be done sometime in the 26th century |
| 21:13.17 | atoponce | goozbach: don't push yourself too hard :) |
| 21:14.10 | goozbach | atoponce: it's just learning the intricices of the new framework |
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| 21:14.15 | goozbach | taht's all |
| 21:14.31 | eppppizzle | k now... how do exit out but still have it running? |
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| 21:14.56 | atoponce | eppppizzle: 'ctrl+a' then 'd' |
| 21:15.14 | eppppizzle | k |
| 21:15.32 | eppppizzle | now how do i reatach the screen somewhere else? |
| 21:15.44 | Tene | ssh into the box it's running on and run 'screen -dr' |
| 21:15.51 | atoponce | that will take you out of scren and to a terminal |
| 21:15.51 | atoponce | 'screen -dr' will put you back in |
| 21:15.51 | atoponce | ^^ |
| 21:15.52 | eppppizzle | allright |
| 21:15.55 | eppppizzle | thx |
| 21:15.56 | eppppizzle | brb |
| 21:16.01 | atoponce | -d to detach if running at one place and your at another, and -r to reattach |
| 21:16.06 | EpP | wow cool |
| 21:16.09 | EpP | :) |
| 21:16.36 | atoponce | now you need to pimp it out with perl scripts like nicklist.pl :) |
| 21:16.58 | EpP | thats cool |
| 21:17.02 | EpP | its working... |
| 21:17.14 | EpP | soo.. |
| 21:17.39 | atoponce | and a better theme too. |
| 21:17.45 | PeregrineFalcon | googzbach: I have run screen inside of screen before. The trick is that in order to send commands, you just do <CTRL>+<A> twice to get to the nested screen (or three times or four, if your crazy nesting) and just once for the "parent" screen. |
| 21:18.41 | EpP | i dont think i can... my ppc is qvga... i can barely see anything |
| 21:19.07 | atoponce | hehe. yeah, on a 320x240 screen, you're not going to see much... |
| 21:19.26 | EpP | yeah |
| 21:19.37 | EpP | ill have a laptop soon... so it doesnt matter |
| 21:20.02 | EpP | how do i change nick colors... my nick blends in with the term, so i cant see it |
| 21:20.47 | atoponce | EpP: you need another theme, or edit default.theme (which isn't fun, and not very untitive) |
| 21:20.58 | Tene | EpP: or just change your terminal settings |
| 21:21.03 | atoponce | or that |
| 21:21.08 | EpP | yeah |
| 21:21.54 | EpP | ok sweet... it looks like my childhood msdos window... but its ok |
| 21:21.58 | atoponce | http://www.irssi.org/themes «--for cool themes a plenty |
| 21:22.23 | EpP | cani change the text size? |
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| 21:23.59 | Tene | EpP: that's a terminal setting |
| 21:24.36 | EpP | yeah. but putty for ppc doesnt have a setting 4 that. |
| 21:25.08 | mrpull | EpP: what PPC are you using? |
| 21:25.16 | EpP | ipaq2215 |
| 21:26.18 | mrpull | no built in wifi? |
| 21:26.18 | EpP | would bitchx be better? |
| 21:26.40 | EpP | mrpull, no but i have a 802.11g CF card |
| 21:26.54 | mrpull | i've had pretty good luck with http://wmirc.com/ |
| 21:27.13 | mrpull | if you just want IRC. i've don't the pocketputty + screen thing and it gets tedious |
| 21:27.23 | mrpull | s/don't/done/ |
| 21:28.17 | EpP | mrpull, but i dont want people to get mad about me haveing 2 people in the room |
| 21:28.42 | mrpull | EpP: they'll get over it |
| 21:28.51 | EpP | i have wmirc. thats what i have been using |
| 21:32.36 | findlay | how do I install a font family on ubuntu? |
| 21:33.13 | findlay | ): |
| 21:33.32 | EpP | findlay: go back to it |
| 21:33.57 | findlay | can't |
| 21:34.03 | EpP | y? |
| 21:34.11 | findlay | can't always justify time it takes to setup gentoo |
| 21:34.24 | macnewbold | *cough* FreeBSD *cough* |
| 21:34.24 | EpP | findlay: i know... thats y it is terrible. |
| 21:35.24 | findlay | but I should learn the weirdnesses of ubuntu because all the popular kids use |
| 21:35.26 | findlay | it |
| 21:36.23 | findlay | it's, after all, the canonical distro (-: |
| 21:41.16 | levi | A ha ha ha ha ha. :) |
| 21:41.26 | levi | Very punny. :P |
| 21:42.40 | findlay | I always knew I was punny |
| 21:42.52 | findlay | s/punny/funny/ |
| 21:43.01 | findlay | er, funny |
| 21:43.03 | nick125 | ugh |
| 21:43.16 | nick125 | trying to use evolution with just a keyboard is hard |
| 21:43.36 | findlay | nick125: not many shortcuts to play with? |
| 21:43.47 | nick125 | I usuually have to use the tab key :x |
| 21:43.55 | nick125 | and my retarded mx1000 mouse isn't charging |
| 21:44.11 | Tene | evolution's list of messages really bugs me. |
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| 21:44.23 | Tene | you can't use ctrl+shift to select multiple separate lists |
| 21:44.24 | findlay | levi: you know you can blog about how funny I am |
| 21:44.28 | nick125 | I wish there just was something better.. |
| 21:44.41 | EpP | is it hard to setup an eggdrop bot? |
| 21:44.50 | nick125 | EpP: not really.. |
| 21:45.04 | EpP | cool. i think im going to make my own channel |
| 21:45.34 | findlay | why would you want to drop eggs? |
| 21:45.38 | findlay | with a robot? |
| 21:46.14 | Tene | nick125: mutt! |
| 21:46.28 | nick125 | mutt..ek |
| 21:47.04 | nick125 | how bad/good is mutt? |
| 21:47.13 | Tene | muchly good |
| 21:47.15 | findlay | mutt is t3h r0x0rz!! |
| 21:47.33 | findlay | http://muttrcbuilder.org/ |
| 21:47.38 | Tene | mutt:evolution::vim:openoffice |
| 21:48.14 | findlay | vim and oo are more different in purpose than mutt and evolution |
| 21:48.19 | nick125 | evolution is decent, but, its a pain |
| 21:48.26 | nick125 | you can edit code with oo |
| 21:48.28 | Tene | oowriter, maybe |
| 21:48.34 | nick125 | its just not pretty |
| 21:48.35 | nick125 | or nice |
| 21:48.39 | findlay | or fun |
| 21:48.40 | nick125 | or anything like that |
| 21:48.47 | nick125 | yeah |
| 21:49.17 | nick125 | web browsing without a mouse isn't fun either |
| 21:51.54 | findlay | ~elinks++ |
| 21:52.17 | nick125_lappy | does mutt have any kind of spam filters? |
| 21:52.28 | nick125_lappy | like, can I make it use spamassassin or something |
| 21:52.42 | fozzmoo | mutt |
| 21:52.47 | fozzmoo | mutt's spam filter would be procmail. |
| 21:52.58 | fozzmoo | And, in that case, yes, it can use spamassassin. |
| 21:53.07 | nick125_lappy | since xbmodder setup spamassassin, but, he's too lazy (or busy, or whatever) to actually have it to more then tag mail |
| 21:53.34 | fozzmoo | Easy to tell procmail to nuke anything that SA scores over X. |
| 21:53.41 | fozzmoo | I auto-delete anything that scores over 10. |
| 21:53.52 | nick125_lappy | can I have procmail send nukes at the spammers? |
| 21:54.05 | Tene | sure, if you have a nuke-sending program |
| 21:54.08 | nick125_lappy | :) |
| 21:54.09 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 21:55.13 | nick125_lappy | boo for 622ms latency :/ |
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| 22:08.25 | EpP | lenovo or HP? |
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| 22:16.13 | EpP | where is the file to edit irssi settings? |
| 22:16.23 | EpP | i want to take of the timestamp |
| 22:18.32 | Tene | EpP: ~/.irssi/config |
| 22:18.32 | Tene | but |
| 22:18.38 | Tene | you can configure everything in the client |
| 22:18.40 | Tene | with /set |
| 22:18.47 | EpP | ok |
| 22:18.57 | Tene | and then /save to write the config file |
| 22:19.05 | EpP | ok |
| 22:19.06 | EpP | thx |
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| 22:25.56 | evan__ | hi |
| 22:26.30 | Tene | coi |
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| 22:30.46 | emcnabb | does anyone here use pyzor? is it worth setting up? |
| 22:34.13 | atoponce | EpP: you *don't* want to edit the config by hand |
| 22:34.24 | EpP | im not |
| 22:34.27 | Tene | atoponce: why not? I do it sometimes. |
| 22:34.38 | Tene | I very rarely use the builtin commands |
| 22:34.38 | EpP | buti do have a question |
| 22:34.56 | atoponce | the syntax is tight, and really really easy to f-up. then it's a pain to fix |
| 22:35.12 | atoponce | as you said, everything can be handled with the builtin commands |
| 22:36.04 | EpP | can i ssh in and then run like firefox from my PPC and have it run on the laptop? |
| 22:36.04 | atoponce | if you do mess it up, it's best to /restore |
| 22:36.14 | EpP | ^ |
| 22:36.23 | Tene | EpP: ssh -Y |
| 22:36.25 | EpP | ok |
| 22:36.33 | EpP | from my ppc? |
| 22:36.42 | Tene | wait |
| 22:36.51 | Tene | you just need to have X set up right |
| 22:37.05 | Tene | on the laptop, run 'xhost +localhost' |
| 22:37.10 | EpP | is it complex? |
| 22:37.17 | EpP | ok |
| 22:37.18 | atoponce | EpP: you want to ssh from the ppc to your laptop, run firefox and view it on the ppc? |
| 22:37.20 | Tene | then on the ssh session running on the laptop, run 'export DISPLAY=:0' |
| 22:37.29 | Tene | then run 'firefox' |
| 22:37.35 | EpP | yeah just 4 fun |
| 22:37.54 | Tene | if you want it displayed on the ppc, you need to have X running on the ppc |
| 22:38.00 | atoponce | Tene: won't he need an X-client on the ppc? |
| 22:38.07 | atoponce | yeah ;) |
| 22:38.16 | Tene | X server, atoponce |
| 22:38.20 | Tene | firefox is an X client |
| 22:39.13 | atoponce | again, the keyboard isn't obeying my every command... |
| 22:39.40 | atoponce | ~lart keyboards |
| 22:40.55 | EpP | error... can not open display... |
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| 22:41.22 | Tene | EpP: echo $DISPLAY |
| 22:41.32 | EpP | echo $DISPLAY |
| 22:41.37 | EpP | oh shit... lol |
| 22:41.56 | EpP | its :0 |
| 22:41.58 | macnewbold | ~language EpP |
| 22:42.00 | ibot | ACTION grabs EpP by the ear and washes EpP's mouth out with soap |
| 22:44.45 | EpP | ok so i ran export display from the ppc and it worked... |
| 22:44.51 | EpP | so can i get X on my ppc? |
| 22:44.56 | Tene | doubtful |
| 22:45.01 | EpP | daarn |
| 22:45.14 | EpP | i have seen a remote desktop to windows. |
| 22:45.16 | Tene | install linux on it and you can |
| 22:45.23 | Tene | yeah, but that's different |
| 22:45.24 | EpP | well... i can |
| 22:45.29 | EpP | but its way glitchy |
| 22:45.42 | atoponce | vnc |
| 22:46.34 | EpP | ahhh vnc viewer for pocket pc... |
| 22:47.03 | atoponce | you would need vnc viewer on your laptop, and your firewall config'd if necessary |
| 22:47.09 | EpP | how do i setup server for linux? |
| 22:47.45 | EpP | i have the viewer for ppc... now i just need the server for linux |
| 22:49.41 | atoponce | EpP: ubuntu? |
| 22:50.00 | EpP | yea |
| 22:50.32 | atoponce | sudo aptitude install vncserver |
| 22:50.53 | atoponce | s/vncserver/vnc4server/ |
| 22:51.03 | Tene | or you can edit your X config to make your normal X session also be a VNC session |
| 22:51.15 | EpP | ok |
| 22:52.03 | EpP | how would i go about doing that? |
| 22:52.14 | atoponce | EpP is getting the linux workover today i think |
| 22:52.26 | EpP | atoponce: yes i am... |
| 22:52.32 | EpP | learned alot already |
| 22:57.09 | EpP | k its all runnung i put in 192.168.1.103.. it says "INVALID should be in form of host:display" |
| 22:57.32 | Tene | append :1 |
| 22:58.11 | EpP | what? |
| 22:58.17 | EpP | 192.168.1.103:1? |
| 22:58.22 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 22:58.24 | EpP | kk |
| 22:58.35 | EpP | haha cool |
| 22:58.36 | nick125_lappy | or, if you are going to use port, 192.168.103::<port> |
| 22:58.36 | EpP | thx |
| 22:58.55 | EpP | this is dop |
| 22:58.56 | EpP | e |
| 22:59.00 | nick125_lappy | I had that problem yesterday |
| 23:00.34 | EpP | it shows a greyscale screen with an X cursor |
| 23:01.17 | Tene | you running a WM on it? |
| 23:01.29 | EpP | yeah gnome |
| 23:01.44 | EpP | i think im going to run flux if i vnc though |
| 23:02.09 | EpP | Tene: so what should i do to make it show my gnome? |
| 23:02.25 | Tene | I'd have to look it up, and I'm a bit too distracted already right now. |
| 23:02.30 | Tene | Maybe bug me about it tomorrow. |
| 23:02.31 | EpP | ok |
| 23:02.53 | EpP | in shell i typed export DISPLAY=:1 then typed firefopx and it ran. |
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| 23:07.03 | vontrapp | worst connection ever... |
| 23:07.22 | EpP | k i figured it out... i ran fluxbox on display 1 |
| 23:08.48 | EpP | now how do i rightclick... |
| 23:10.33 | Tene | hehe |
| 23:12.04 | EpP | ahh right click is hold |
| 23:14.01 | Tene | so how do you click and hold? |
| 23:14.58 | Tene | ;) |
| 23:15.45 | EpP | just keep the pen on the touchscreen |
| 23:15.58 | EpP | whats the lightest fastest window manager? |
| 23:16.42 | Tene | ratpoison, maybe |
| 23:16.48 | Tene | maybe evilwm |
| 23:16.48 | EpP | hmm ill check i tout |
| 23:17.12 | EpP | evilwm |
| 23:20.11 | EpP | br |
| 23:20.12 | EpP | b |
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| 23:24.15 | EpP | fluxbox has nothing in its menu |
| 23:36.03 | EpP | isnt the menu supposed to have stuff in it? |
| 23:39.02 | findlay | fluxbox-generate_menu |
| 23:39.17 | vontrapp | EpP: what distro? |
| 23:41.02 | findlay | nick125_lappy: you just need to send a Hatch |
| 23:41.05 | findlay | _packet |
| 23:41.25 | findlay | that'll nuke those spammer's machines for sure |
| 23:41.29 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 23:42.06 | findlay | too bad that bill didn't make it through congress |
| 23:42.41 | findlay | because we could then have INP, internet nuke protocol |
| 23:43.09 | findlay | ~nuke fishy email |
| 23:43.11 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at fishy email ... B☢☢M! |
| 23:46.29 | findlay | I should write the wikipedia article |
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