irclog2html for #utah on 20060813

00:01.11amcnabbI just put a new page.  If anyone has any comments or suggestions, I'd really appreciate it.
00:01.17amcnabbhttp://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/linux/pythonex/
00:01.20Tenehttp://www.columbia.edu/kermit/utf8.html#glass
00:01.22brac[UTF-8 Sampler]
00:01.55amcnabbTene, wow.  That's pretty cool.
00:06.02Tenehow's python's unicode support?
00:07.13amcnabbI've never tried using it, but I know it's there.
00:07.33amcnabbI think improving unicode is one of the things they're working on right now.
00:07.40TeneJust curious.
00:07.58amcnabbI think unicode strings become the default type of string sometime soon.
00:08.18amcnabbBut I just haven't used them much.
00:08.30Tenekk
00:09.56Tenehttp://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htm
00:09.58brac[Translations of My hovercraft is full of eels in many languages]
00:17.35levi_homeNow there's a useful website.
00:17.53Tene~levi levi_home
00:18.23Tene~levi levi_home
00:18.24ibotACTION fills levi_home's hovercraft full of eels.
00:19.19levi_homeAt least it's not snakes on a plane.
00:19.34Tene~xbmodder levi_home
00:19.53Teneaww...
00:19.56nick125_lappywhat function does ~xbmodder do (or what function should it do)? :P
00:21.25Tene~maquis nick125_lappy
00:21.26ibotACTION breaks nick125_lappy just by looking in nick125_lappy's direction
00:21.37Tene~sjansen nick125_lappy
00:21.38ibotACTION tells nick125_lappy good things about sjansen
00:21.50Tene~findlay nick125_lappy
00:21.51ibotACTION recreationally nmaps nick125_lappy.
00:22.17Tenenot yet
00:22.37Tene~levi nick125_lappy
00:22.39ibotACTION fills nick125_lappy's hovercraft full of eels.
00:22.49nick125_lappybut, I don't have a hovercraft!
00:23.09TeneYou... erm... do now?
00:23.23nick125_lappyaah
00:24.23Tene~levi nick125_lappy
00:24.24ibotACTION gives nick125_lappy a hovercraft and then fills it with eels!
00:24.35nick125_lappyhaha
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00:26.02Tene~emcnabb herlo
00:26.21nick125_lappyhow do you define a function?
00:26.58Tene/msg ibot command $target is <action> here's the text of the action!
00:27.09Teneor <reply> Look!  I'm saying something!
00:27.11herlo~lart atoponce
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00:27.19herlo!rr atoponce
00:28.44Tene~rr atoponce
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00:29.01nick125_lappyTene: and, how do you get the name of the person who called teh function?
00:29.01hans-lart tensai
00:29.02nick125_lappy*the
00:29.02herloTene: I was trying to do that in #ubuntu-utah
00:29.08Tenenick125_lappy: $who
00:29.17hansdoctor $who
00:29.48Tene/msg ibot stealmoneyfrom $target is <reply> steals money from $target and gives it to $who.
00:31.00nick125_lappy~nick125 Tene
00:31.12nick125_lappyand I think I broke it. fun
00:33.26Tene~nick125 foo
00:33.27ibotACTION puts tene on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes tene use Gentoo on there.
00:33.34nick125_lappyyeah..
00:33.56nick125_lappynow, trying to get it to forget it and reset it..
00:34.05Teneokay
00:34.20Tene/msg ibot no, nick125 $target is <action> some new stuff isntead
00:34.43nick125_lappy~nick125 Tene
00:34.44ibotACTION puts Tene on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes Tene use Gentoo on there.
00:34.55nick125_lappynow, thats evil :P
00:34.58Tene~nick125 nick125_lappy
00:35.00ibotACTION puts nick125_lappy on a VPS with 32MB of ram and makes nick125_lappy use Gentoo on there.
00:35.12nick125_lappymysql takes 18 hours to compile on 64MB
00:35.27nick125_lappy12 if you don't use -pipe
00:36.15Tene~ibot nick125_lappy
00:37.02Tene~ibot nick125_lappy
00:40.41TeneOh.
00:40.45Tene~ibot nick125_lappy
00:42.39Tene~ibot foo
00:42.40ibotbar
00:43.27Teneibot: ibot something
00:43.28ibotACTION does... erm... I dunno... some bot stuff or something to something.
00:48.58nick125_lappylol
00:49.47mheathenjoying my last soda, my last candy, and my last few moments on the computer for 3 months.
00:50.28Tene~mheath nick125_lappy
00:50.30ibotACTION impresses nick125_lappy into the US military.
00:51.00mheathDarn right.
00:51.28Tene~mheath nick125_lappy
00:51.30ibotACTION impresses nick125_lappy into the US military.  Serve your country, dang it!
00:51.41nick125_lappylol
00:51.47levi_home"You can drink milk with a cup, but you can't cut wood with a cat."
00:52.09mheathO.o
00:52.13nick125_lappyo.0
00:52.32TeneYou're quite right, levi.
00:52.49TeneThat's... "insightful"
00:52.55nick125_lappyyou could just have them claw it..
00:54.53levi_homeFrom the 'useful' phrases page of the same site with the hovercraft full of eels.
00:55.44mheathLess than 72 hours from now, I will be officially in the United States Marine Corps active duty, and will be weawring a USMC uniform down at MCRD San Diego
00:56.10TeneThat's intense.
00:56.28mheathYou have no idea.
00:56.34mheathThe bad part is, my ship date got moved up
00:56.37TeneScared?  Excited?  Happy?  Nervous?  Full of eels?
00:56.44mheathI really needed that time to finish working on my pullups
00:57.02mheathWhich means theres a decent chance I might end up in the PCP (physical conditioning platoon) for about a week
00:57.26mheathTene: A mixture of all of the above. The full effect really hasn't set in, to be honest.
00:57.33mheathI'm kind of in shock =P
00:57.54mheathIt'll probably set in just as that bus is going through the gates at MCRD San Diego. It does for most people =P
00:57.55TeneYay, full of eels!
00:58.26mheathI leave tomorrow. Spend the night in a hotel in downtown SLC tomorrow night.
00:58.40TeneWhich?
00:58.52mheathShariton (sp?)
00:59.01mheathSheraton*
00:59.03TeneI suppose I probably couldn't come harass you...
00:59.14mheathProbably couldn't find me =P
00:59.33mheathIts not like they keep us under lock and key, though.
00:59.42TeneLike, are you already in the service then, or are you staying there on your own, or what?
00:59.59mheathTene: the military puts me up in that hotel.
01:00.16TeneWe could go, I dunno, arson-ing?
01:00.31TeneI've heard arson is fun.
01:00.51mheathI've been in the "Delayed Entry Program" (People waiting to leave for basic, basically) for a few months. Technically being in the DEP means that I'm in the Marine Corps Reserve.
01:00.56mheathTene: It's a date.
01:01.02TeneSweet.
01:01.40mheathhaha, thanks, but no thanks :P
01:01.44Teneaww...
01:02.10TeneHehe.
01:02.32TeneHe secretly agreed in /msg
01:02.33Tene!
01:02.39TeneThat may or may not be a lie!
01:02.40mheathhaha
01:02.56emcnabbmheath: good luck; I hope things go well for you!
01:02.57TeneYou can check the rest of the logs in this channel to confirm my reliability.
01:03.10mheathThanks, emcnabb
01:03.23mheathI know a dirty secret about Tene though
01:03.28mheathHe uses Sprint!
01:04.11TeneI do!
01:04.36TeneWanna know why?
01:04.38Tenehttp://spamusement.com/index.php/comics/view/169
01:04.40brac[Spamusement! Poorly-drawn cartoons inspired by actual spam subject lines! Did you know Sprint PCS did this?]
01:05.20elgthat's not nearly poorly-drawn enough
01:05.31TeneFire Messaging ftw!
01:05.52Teneelg: I think he means that he draws them whenever he's low on cash.
01:10.06mheathhahaha
01:10.07mheathnow the Arson tendencies are explained.
01:12.23levi_homeThis is evil: http://www.studiohunty.com/interweb/
01:12.29brac[The Interweb Medley!!]
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01:41.20tensai-lart elg
01:47.16Tene~tensai brac
01:49.34tensaistupid shoelaces! why did I go for velcro?!?
01:50.17Tenehttp://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/puzzles/
01:51.06tensaiTene: these comics are good, some of them
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02:23.28herlo~seen fozzmoo
02:23.41ibotfozzmoo <n=fozz@166.70.238.250> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1d 6h 5m 14s ago, saying: 'Doesn't have all the extension support of Thunderbird, tho.'.
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05:36.33levi_home~ping maquis
05:36.34ibotpong maquis
05:37.48Tene~levi maquis
05:37.49ibotACTION gives maquis a hovercraft and then fills it with eels!
05:39.41maquislevi_home: hi?
05:39.49maquis-lart Tene
05:48.43levi_homemaquis: I believe I've got a working UM.
05:49.00levi_homemaquis: It's running sandmark.umz now.
05:51.52levi_homeIt's currently very slow, as it's written in Common Lisp and I haven't given it any optimization instructions yet.
06:11.35maquislevi_home: cool
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08:01.39Lone_WandererAnyone still up?
08:09.05Sargunhey
08:09.14Sarguncolorado?
08:09.15Lone_Wandererhiya
08:09.20SargunAre you based out of colorado?
08:09.22Lone_WandererI'm in UT
08:09.24Lone_WandererOrem
08:09.34Lone_Wandererdunno why my IP is in Colorado.
08:09.58Lone_Wandererwoah
08:10.00Lone_WandererI killed it
08:10.02Lone_Wandererand it's working again
08:11.30Lone_WandererI'm not sure if that's good or not.  A config script was checking mprotect, and hanging.  So I killed what I thought was the process, and the config script concluded that mprotect is working fine and kept going.
08:12.40Sargunoh
08:20.28Lone_WandererOr not.
08:20.41Lone_WandererIs there any way to undo everything a makefile just did?
08:21.22Sarguntar -xvf over it?
08:21.47Lone_WandererSo I can just remove the directory itself?  It wouldn't have thrown things all over my system or anything?
08:22.28Sargunhmm
08:22.51Lone_WandererToo late now :D
08:23.19nick125_lappymake uninstall?
08:23.48Lone_WandererThe directory's gone.
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15:11.28EpPHey, whats up?
15:14.14EpPwho here was at the ubuntu meeting yesterday?
15:25.26EpPwhat was that cool broswer that guy waas using at the meeting
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15:57.26mheathuntil the batteries on my laptop die, that is :P
15:58.12EpPmheath, were you at the meeting last night?
15:58.30mheathEpP: I was saying goodbye to my family last night.
15:58.40EpPmheath, ok.
16:00.06mheathDepart Salt Lake City for San Diego tomorrow afternoon
16:00.11synicEpP: did you get exaile working?
16:00.41EpPsynic, i didnt have time to make it
16:01.13EpPsynic, I hate building from source. I think im going to put linux on my desktop.
16:01.30mheathO.o
16:01.32synicyou shouldn't have to build it... it's a python app
16:02.03EpPI know, I have to download some of the Libraries or whatever that are required.
16:02.07synicah
16:02.16synicbrb
16:02.17EpPwill do right now though
16:03.56EpPI guess i need pysqlite
16:04.36EpPsynic, do u remeber the broswer he was using lst night?
16:13.00synicit was flock
16:13.11synicEpP: I thought you were on ubuntu?
16:13.16EpPYES!
16:13.19EpPFLOCK!
16:13.23synicapt-get install python-pysqlite2
16:13.24EpPsynic, i am why?
16:13.28EpPthats what i did.
16:13.43synicah.  What were you needing to compile?
16:14.11EpPnothing, just muttering my problems aloud.
16:14.41EpPIts just hard because alot of the times the debs are for i386 andim on ppc... so i have to compile fomr source
16:14.47synicyea
16:15.17synicI don't blog or use flickr, so flock is a downgrade for me.
16:15.19EpPso i just need to get a new laptop
16:16.10EpPsynic, this is very pretty!
16:16.30synicEpP: heh :)
16:17.03synicouch.  breakfast burrito burning my mouth.  brb, soda.
16:17.21EpPsynic, lot quicker that amarok too
16:17.31EpPnow i need some help with the music.
16:17.47synic?
16:18.00synicwell, to start, weird al sucks.
16:18.09synicmassive attack doesn't.
16:18.09EpPha
16:18.19EpPI have a computer that has all the music. Can i mount a Network drive so i can grab music from the windows comp?
16:18.33synicyes - it's a windows share?
16:18.46EpPyes
16:18.53synicapt-get install smbfs
16:18.58EpPkk
16:19.11synicmkdir /mnt/music && mount -s smbfs //computer/share_name /mnt/music
16:19.50EpPok sweet
16:19.52EpPlol
16:20.14synicdo you have subversion installed?
16:20.30EpPdont think so
16:20.40synicrm -rf exaile && apt-get install subversion && svn co svn://jbother.org/usr/local/svn/exaile
16:20.49synicthat's the latest and greatest - almost ready for the first release
16:21.02synic(since the one you have is a beta)
16:21.25EpPk.. will snag tghat
16:24.23EpPYou should get this into the repos ASAP
16:24.52synicit's not really up to me, but I don't think it will be long.
16:25.05EpPyeah, beacuse this looks great
16:25.19synichttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159879
16:27.51EpPwhen i try mounting that smb folder. Its not working.
16:28.01synicwhat happens?
16:28.13EpPI created /mnt/music, but when i mount it it gives me a list of things im able to do
16:28.25goozbach~congradulate markl_
16:28.27goozbachopps
16:28.37goozbach~congradulate maquis
16:28.45goozbachopps again
16:28.47mheathThis is scary.
16:28.52goozbachwell congrats markl_
16:28.57mheathI'm sitting in the house I've lived in since I was 3
16:28.59goozbachstupid tab completion
16:29.07goozbachcongrats maquis
16:29.15goozbachmarkl_: where'd you come from?
16:29.18mheathI slept in MY bed in a room I've slept in for 13 years...
16:29.27mheathAnd when I leave in a few hours, that all changes
16:29.27goozbachscrewing up my finger memory
16:29.38mheathI might come back and visit, but this will never really be my home again.....
16:31.00mheathIts jus sad and scary.
16:31.19EpPsynic, its giving me the man page
16:31.48synicEpP: what exactly are you typing?
16:32.21EpPsudo mount -s smbfs /MAINPC/iTunes /mnt/music
16:32.37synicneed two slashes before MAINPC
16:33.10EpPkk
16:33.29EpPsynic, same page.
16:33.49synicoh, and it's mount -t
16:33.58EpPhaha. thats it
16:34.46EpPsynic, now it didnt give me anything wierd... but theres no music in /mnt/mujsic
16:34.50EpPmusic*
16:35.22syniccd out of it and back into it
16:35.37EpPi ah got it.
16:35.47EpPi did \\ instead of //.. it didnt like it
16:35.54EpPsweet thx
16:36.12EpPhow long have you been writing this?
16:36.22synic~5 months
16:37.04EpPwow... daily?
16:37.33synicnah, but a lot.  I'm telling you, it's the python :)
16:38.20EpPI would get stuck, then probly give up
16:39.07synichalf the fun is getting stuck... 'cause it feels that much better when you finally figure it out.
16:40.34EpPyeah. But im nowhere near know enough python to do that. I can do simple math equations, manipulate strings... etc.
16:42.03EpPthis is truely an amazing app.
16:42.05EpP^5
16:42.10synicthanks :)
16:42.11synic^5
16:43.00EpPi want to run it on my pocketpc lol
16:43.30synicyeah, what was that you had last night?
16:43.53EpPjust a ipaq 2215.
16:44.06EpPi got the CF and SD slot
16:44.22EpPso i can run wireless... so when im working out i can just stream music.
16:44.57synicgroovy
16:44.58EpPI also installed python on it, so i want to make a mediaplayer for it
16:45.20EpPi was to ashamed to take out my laptop... lol
16:45.32synicrofl
16:45.52synicno way, old pcs are cool.  I'm sitting next to a 200mhz 32mb ram web server
16:45.59EpPhaha
16:46.05synicit's a weird box, when the power flickers, all the machines turn off but that one.
16:46.07EpPPlus my batteries fried so i would have to plug it in. I didnt want to be a bother
16:47.11synicwhich macbook are you gonna get?
16:47.28EpPim waiting for the 64bit to come out.
16:47.36EpPjust a white one with a superdrive.
16:47.55synicwhat size?
16:47.57EpPno pointin paying $200 more for a black case.
16:48.07EpP14 inch
16:48.11EpPim not getting the pro
16:48.48synicsweet
16:49.04EpPahh its a 13 inch
16:50.22EpPi dunno.. i might just want to get a PC laptop. Because linux has problems with the broadcom airport
16:50.34synicI dunno, they are fixing that.
16:50.42EpPI dont want to use ndiswrapper
16:50.48synicthe laptop I have has a broadcom, and it works fine without ndiswrapper
16:50.56EpPhmmm
16:51.18synicthough I will say... the macbook looks cool, but you can get a comparable pc for a lot less
16:51.34EpPyeah im trying to get into my neighbors wep. But my original airport doesnt support monitering without doing all this kernel stuff...
16:51.43EpPsynic, not that runs OSX.
16:51.44EpP:)
16:52.03synicah... I'm not much of a fan :)  I'm too used to linux
16:52.10EpPyeah
16:52.18EpPIm thinking about just a PC
16:52.33EpPi for sure want a core duo
16:54.31EpPany suggestions?
16:55.24synicnot really.  I just bought the cheapest I could find.  After having my other one stolen, I wasn't too excited about spending a lot of money again.
16:55.35EpPyeah, true.
16:56.51EpPi just need a laptop with higher resolution that 800x600.
16:57.27synichaha
16:58.21EpPI learned alot about page traffic yesterday. that was some good info
17:00.12EpPooh... what about a tablet!
17:00.56synicmeh.
17:01.03synicI also have a tablet
17:01.07synicI don't ever use the tablet part
17:01.11EpPtrue.
17:01.15EpPbut they are neet
17:03.44EpPi dunno if i want a 64bit. dont i have to install Ubuntu 64?
17:05.49synicnope.
17:05.58synicKernel: Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ @ 1804 Mhz | Mem usage: 262.1/755.7 MB (35%) | Swap usage: 22.5/957 MB (2%) | Disk usage(WDC WD1600JB-00GVA0): 60.9/93.1 GB (65%) | Uptime: 21 hrs 56 mins 12 secs
17:06.03synicrunning ubuntu32 here
17:06.13EpPoh sweet. does it help to run 64?
17:06.47synicnot for a workstation.  64bit != faster - it just means you can support more ram (more than 4GB)
17:06.48EpPahhh.
17:06.56EpPwell i dont need more that 4 gigs...
17:07.12EpPthan*
17:17.16EpPi cant decide... So many choices. Ill just choose when i have alot of money.
17:19.29EpPsynic, so you want to go get food sometime?
17:25.30synicI can't today, sorry
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17:44.01EpP-Pockethi
17:44.46EpPI dont mean anywhere in the near future... I jsut got my tonsils out so i cant eat anything.
17:45.15synicoh, yeah, heh :)
17:45.48synic<-- retard
17:46.02EpP<--- unclear
17:46.10EpP-Pocketloo
17:46.13EpP-Pocketlol
17:50.54EpP-Pocketk well...
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18:56.53maquisgoozbach: thanks :)
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18:57.07EpPtest
18:57.08goozbachnp
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18:59.07EpPtest
18:59.11EpP-PocketPCtest
19:00.27goozbachEpP heard of screen?
19:00.35EpPgoozbach, no.
19:00.38EpPwhats that>
19:00.52goozbachterminal manager
19:00.57EpPfor...
19:01.19maquisEpP: it's so you can have one session that you connect to over ssh
19:01.28maquis(or something like that)
19:01.31EpPy would i need it?
19:01.54maquisEpP: if you connect from multiple locations, you can pick up the session from any of the machines you connect in from
19:01.56goozbachnot have to connect via your ipaq
19:02.08EpPtrue... that would be nice
19:02.20EpPbut i want to.
19:02.23maquisit's quite nice
19:02.25maquisi highly recommend it
19:02.29atoponcehttp://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
19:02.31EpPso i dont have 2 users?
19:02.31brac[GNU Screen - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)]
19:02.37maquisEpP: yeah
19:02.40EpPkk
19:02.48atoponceit's really nice
19:02.55EpPok
19:04.31atoponceEpP: have access to an ssh server?
19:04.44EpPatoponce, yeah
19:04.50atoponcewhat distro?
19:05.08EpPcant remember. its for my reseller hosting
19:05.54atoponcesee if screen and irssi are installed
19:06.04EpPI dont really get how this whole this is going to qwork
19:06.12atoponceif so, 'screen irssi'
19:06.39atoponcewith screen you mean?
19:06.42EpPyeah
19:07.14EpPIm on a ubuntu linux laptop right now. Then i also have a Pocket pc with a irc lcient
19:08.09atoponceis the ubuntu linux laptop the ssh server you have access to?
19:08.16EpPno
19:08.21EpPI can run one i guess
19:08.25atoponcenah
19:08.34atoponcessh into the server
19:08.47EpPy? its in dallas texas...
19:09.10atoponcethen run 'screen'
19:09.18EpPok.
19:09.29atoponcethen 'irssi'
19:09.47EpPk
19:10.00atoponce/connect irc.freenode.net
19:10.16atoponceand /join #utah
19:11.03EpPk
19:11.40EpPer@server1 [~]# screen
19:11.40EpPCannot access '/dev/pts/0': No such file or directory
19:11.45EpPno go
19:12.27atoponcehmmmm
19:13.02EpPI guess i will just make 1 leave when i come in, so i dont have 2
19:14.24atoponcetwo is fine. i don't think anyone here cares. screen is just a beautiful thing and makes irc very nice
19:15.17EpPso what app would i use on my ppc to connect to it??
19:16.22atoponceyou would just ssh in (assuming you have a terminal client with ssh capability) and run 'screen -dr'. then your session would attach to your ppc
19:16.58atoponceleaving you with only one session running that you can access anywhere
19:17.31EpPyeah, so I would be connected on the shell all the time right?
19:17.37atoponceright
19:17.47EpPyeah thats too much work.
19:17.59atoponce:)
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19:22.26EpPatoponce, thx for the idea though
19:22.59mheathhmmm, what do you put in /etc/shadow for no password?
19:23.23mheathnothing between the :'s?  (::)
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19:28.57EpP-PocketPCok
19:29.07EpPno i just need to get msn working...
19:29.11EpPnow*
19:31.59EpPcool... i did it
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19:35.08EpP-PocketPCkk done
19:35.12EpPcool
19:35.36EpP-PocketPCye h, hows your day EpP
19:35.44EpPoh its good. lol
19:43.55EpPmass suicide!!!
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21:12.44elg-lart emcnabb
21:12.44Tenehttp://allalone.org/pics/China/
21:12.45Tenepics from my sister's trip to China
21:13.13elgwow, china looks a lot like an airplane
21:13.33TeneYeah, pretty amazing.
21:51.58TeneStill need to get the video off of DV.
21:56.14emcnabb-lart elg
22:03.05elggah
22:03.13elg"set exrc" seemed like the perfect solution
22:03.27elgbut ~/.vim/ftplugins/c.vim is loaded _after_ ./.vimrc
22:03.30elgwhat kind of idiocy is that?
22:04.48elgwell I guess it makes sense since ftplugin is loaded when the file is opened, not when the editor starts
22:04.59elgbut it just makes things ugly
22:20.50levi_homeelg: I think it was designed specifically to make your life difficult.
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22:21.03elgi'm sure it was. :)
22:21.17levi_homeThere are some real sadistic coders out there, lemme tell ya.
22:25.37TeneAny recommendations for a package to analyze an apache log file and show some statistics?
22:57.27levi_homeI've used awstats before.
22:57.34levi_homeIt's web-based.
22:59.24TeneI'm trying it right now, but I can't convince it to do anything with these log files.  It just reports a bunch of 0s.
23:02.13levi_homeHmm, weird.
23:03.13Tenemaybe I've got the wrong format or something
23:03.44levi_homeI haven't actually looked at my website stats in months.
23:04.40Tene"Last Update: never updated (See 'Build/Update' on awstats_setup.html page)"
23:05.01levi_homeDid you run an update?
23:05.49Tenesudo tools/awstats_buildstaticpages.pl -config=wark.allalone.org -LogFile="tools/logresolvemerge.pl /var/log/httpd/* |"
23:05.58Tenefrom /usr/share/awstats
23:06.17TeneYeah, looks like it's a format issue
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23:27.33EpP.
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